6 Reasons Why YOU Won’t Survive The Coming Collapse

by M.D. Creekmore on July 5, 2013 · 72 comments

Failure-why you won't survive the coming collapse.1. Overconfidence

The overconfidence effect is a bias in which someone’s subjective confidence in their judgments and abilities is greater that their actual survival skill set or knowledge.

Never assume you know everything or even enough. We can always learn and expand our knowledge base. I learn new things and contemplate fresh ideas all the time, the guy or gal thinking they know all there is to know will likely be the first one in the stew-pot.

2. Procrastination

I covered procrastination in a previous post “How To Stop Procrastinating and Start Prepping“. Procrastination, the habit of putting things off to the last possible minute, can get you killed. In a true collapse situation you may not have time to run to the corner grocery to stock up.

Everyone will try that. The lines will be long, dangerous and best avoided. It’s better to get off your butt and get it done now. A lot of people fear stocking up on survival foods and never needing to use what they bought, eventually there stocks go bad and they waste money.

This is nonsense. You will always need to eat, so the solution is simple eat what you store and replace. First in – first out. Repeat. This way you never spend more money than you normally would. All your doing is buying what you already need in advance.

3. Inefficient use of resources

This is another big mistake often made by preppers. Wasting money (resources) on things of lesser importance, while neglecting the stuff needed to survive. I see this all the time. You know what I’m talking about – the “survivor” who spends $10,000 on weapons and related gear, yet has a two week supply of survival food and no water filter.

This is stupid. I love guns and gear as much as the next guy – but I know eating and drinking are more important to survival. Sure we need weapons to protect what we’ve put away, just don’t neglect the other stuff. A Lee-Enfield or Mosin Nagant will stop a raider as sure as the most expensive tactical weapons system. The key is skill and a willingness to squeeze the trigger.

An expensive gun collection will not make up for lack of skill or proper mind set.

4. Failure to act

This one ties in with procrastination and indecision and many of us suffer from it. Not only will it interfere with your survival plans it can stop you from planning at all. Look at your situation, form a plan (write it down) and do it. No excuses.

5. Lack of persistence

Most people start their survival preps with the utmost determination and desire to get things done – but they stop when they run into the first obstacle. They lack persistence. Most things aren’t easy, if you give up before completing your goal, you will never get anything done. Quitters never succeed. Set realistic preparedness goals (write them down) and work through it until completion.

In case you missed it, the key word is realistic, never set goals that are impossible to reach. Most of us can’t afford the retreat in Idaho (or want to), $20,000 survival gun collection, hummer, concrete bunker and ten year supple of mountain house freeze-dried foods.

I’m sure many who read such advice give up before they even start. Some survival blogs just don’t get it. They can’t identify with the common, struggling to make ends meet individual in the trenches. They are blinded by their wealth to the point of being nearly worthless to the needs of common folk.

Set realistic goals, not pie in the sky dreams. Write it down and work at it until it is a reality.

6. Divided actions

Many preppers run around like the chicken with its head cut off. Their actions are divided, to the point where they never get anything done.

A can of spam here, a box of ammo there, maybe work on a bug out bag – but they never meet their goals or get anything done. You know who I’m talking about…

Take a look at your personal situation and decide what is the most important consideration for your survival. Again make a list. List the most important to the most trivial. Work down the list in descending order until your goals are completed.

Please let us know what you think in the comments below…

72 comments

Mike July 5, 2013 at 10:03 am

For #5 you mention mountain house foods and a huge long time supply.

I know food is better than no food, but just a word of advice, try eating the things you decide to stock and not just for one or two meals.

A friend and I went into the bush for a week and all we brought was mountain house freeze dried foods. They were INCREDIBLY salty. The first few meals were good but eating only freeze dried mountain house foods we got salt sick, i guess. We also had to drink a lot more water, and we just didn’t want to eat any more of those even though we were tired and hungry.

So find out what you can eat and have stuff you can rotate out. After a few mountain house meals you’ll be very grateful for some bland rice and beans, at least I know I would.

Jack July 5, 2013 at 12:06 pm

That is an excellent point. Camp foods are very very salty. For the wilderness backpacker that they were designed for that is great. It replaces the salt that you sweat out on a long hike. But to just survive on them, well, only if it’s all I had. Same can be said for MREs.

Mike July 5, 2013 at 12:46 pm

When it comes to Mountain House foods, they are great for a weekend, but the long term you do need variety.
Also, before you buy the #10 cans, you should buy some of the single packets and try them to find out which ones you like; not all of them are palatable.

Swabbie Robbie July 5, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Ain’t that the truth! I went camping for a week last summer and brought a supple of freeze dried foods to test them out (several brands) Salty. Some vegetables never completely re-hydrate., After a few days they were tearing up my gut. Taste was OK but not great, but I did not expect them to be. I found I could probably survive on them for a few weeks, but would only make them part of emergency foods for bugging out, and making do short term.

I feel better stocking up on items like canned butter and cheezes, powdered milk and eggs, canned meats. I looked to long storage life offshore cruiser supplies as one would have aboard in tropics and, more importantly, sailing without refrigeration on the boat. For the rest, we stock foods we actually eat and rotate the stock.

We are no where near our goal of food on hand, but doing pretty well. We already have lived in our retreat for decades.

Zaeda July 5, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Do you have a link to the offshore cruiser suppliers you use?

Thanks you~

Eagle July 5, 2013 at 1:49 pm

Mike.
I agree about the salt content. We had quite a stash of freeze dried food and then two years ago a major illness and now I am on a very restricted diet. Gave most of the freeze dried (cases of it) to a family member that preps. At our age and health there will be no bug out. We have replaced what we need with canned goods etc. However, this takes up a lot of space compared to the freeze dried.

When Hurricane Ivan blew through in 2004 I ate military issue MRE’s for three days. Not bad, but also salty and fatty for an old timer. Then I went back to my trusty coleman stove and canned goods.

We only stockpile what we will eat.

JeffintheWest July 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm

Really good point there about pre-packaged foods. But in addition, even regular foods can get really old. During the First Gulf War, I wound up eating at a contract mess tent in Saudi Arabia for about three months. The ONLY thing those guys knew how to cook was chicken and rice. By the time that was over, I couldn’t look chicken and rice in the face again. It was over ten years before I was willing to eat chicken and rice again! So remember to add variety to your diet, and EXPERIMENT with what you’re stocking.

riverrider July 5, 2013 at 10:52 am

excellent points all. i’m guilty of at least a couple. i’ve got all the “stuff”, now i need to get to the “doing” part. building fighting positions, hardening the retreat, getting them chickens i been wanting forever etc. its a never ending process and frankly i’m tired. maybe thats because i am procrastinating on working out? hmmm, i sense a revolving pattern here…..

bctruck July 5, 2013 at 11:03 am

im guilty of number 3. ill go into detail tomorrow about that. number 6 is exactly how i had to make myself get prepared. preparedness seemed like an insurmountable task but when i broke it down into categories and subcatagories, like water,filtration,purification,access to it, storage of it and so forth,then did the same with food,sources,protien,vegetable,on the hoof,storage,shelf life. i found it was far easier to tackle each task when i took smaller bites of the bigger issue.

JP in MT July 5, 2013 at 11:17 am

At at least one point I have been guilty of all of the above. Attitude is everything. It’s like when driving, I look down the road as far as I can to see if there’s any danger ahead. If I can’t see far, I go slower. I am ready to react, and usually react appropriately, because I realize it could happen and right now. I think transitioning from Prepper to Survivor will take the same stills.

worrisome July 5, 2013 at 11:53 am

I think that it is easy to get off your targets. One disaster or another of some small scale, a car that breaks down, a roof that fails and and needs to be replaced and all your funding goes to cover the expense, and while you are waiting to get financially caught up you get off track and then fail to start up again?

Doris Jones July 5, 2013 at 11:55 am

Great Information! This post should be required reading for every prepper. #4. Failure to act. In so many situations that go bad, we hear the people say afterwards, “if only I had—” fill in the blank with “prepared”, “left the area in time” and on and on. Every point you made was valuable. I particularly liked #4 and #3 “Inefficient Use of Resources” as those two appear to be very common mistakes people make.

worrisome July 5, 2013 at 11:55 am

I think that it is easy to get off your targets. One disaster or another of some small scale, a car that breaks down, a roof that fails and and needs to be replaced and all your funding goes to cover the expense, and while you are waiting to get financially caught up you get off track and then fail to start up again. And/or when you do start up again, you just start whereever you are. Going to a store, you see something cool for prepping and you just buy it without consulting your list and your priorities.

Fixit July 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm

I think to many people see prepping as a sprint . It’s more of a life long progression . Yes there my be a time when you say I’ve got the gear I need ( after 30 years of prepping I still can’t say that) but the learning never stops. The bulk buy on food may be a great way to get a quick start but from my view you are better off with what you self store.you are much more likely to eat what you have canned or dried or put up yourself. Yes over the years there have been slow times on prepping and busy times like now.

Fixit July 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm

I should of also stated the importance of planning. A one plan as well as a five year plan works for me. I can then look at what I need to do first and look back at progress made. If you know where you are going then you can see where you have been.
That can be helpful when depression kicks in as you look at all that still needs doing. I was asked the other day ” When are you done” I said never there is always more to do.

t42n24t2 July 5, 2013 at 12:45 pm

Guilty, guilty, guilty! Just got out my prepping planning book and reviewed it. Now, making an updated plan. I was depressed this morning, then I looked at this book. Progress has been made on several fronts, including a Faraday cage that took months to do. So, make a plan, work the plan, review/revise the plan does work.

hvaczach July 5, 2013 at 12:54 pm

I am guilty of just about every one of them with perhaps the exception of over confidence. The ice storm this spring was a truly humbling experiance. Losing just electricity for several days was a great way to learn where I was defficiant and unfortunatly the answer was in far to many places. That being said you take it as a chance to grow and learn and take better steps. But I don’t see myself becoming over confident any time soon as I have much to do in the ways of prepparring. Ever vigilant.

Winomega July 5, 2013 at 1:57 pm

Number 6 and number 5 happened this week. It’s going to be a fun Saturday.

My overconfidence is a bit weird. I am confident that it will all work out in the end, though some of my definitions of dying comfortably are a bit generous.

“Improvisation is the only battle plan that survives contact with the enemy”

SW July 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Without a doubt… I fall into number 6.

Eagle July 5, 2013 at 2:00 pm

I would add complacency to the list. Many preppers have a good handle for meeting the future. You prep and prep and the big event doesn’t happen. As in the military you can be “on alert” so often it becomes a big so what. You lose your edge.

I prepare for hurricanes every year. Been through 4 direct hits and numerous tropical storms. This year I had to make myself go through my pre hurricane drill and checklist. Why?? Haven’t had a an event since Hurricane Dennis in 2005. Complacency at its best.

JeffintheWest July 5, 2013 at 2:15 pm

I’d add — Don’t get discouraged by the occasional set back.

Trust me; things WILL go wrong, or take longer than planned or fail just when you think you did everything right, or cost more than you ever thought it could when you first set your budget. Food will spoil, even though you had it perfectly preserved, the bugs will get the garden, Bessie will go dry, the well pump will fail, etc, etc, etc.

When something like that happens, sit down and analyze it (no matter how much you may feel like just screaming) and figure out what went wrong, and what you can do to prevent it going wrong again, then get back into action as soon as you can. The best (and really, ONLY) thing you can do with failure is learn from it. We used to have a saying in the military; “No plan survives contact with the enemy.” And it’s corollary is Pogo’s “We have found the enemy, and it is us!” Not trying to learn from failure is wasting a wonderful opportunity to learn something you need to know!

So just get back on that horse, or tie a know in that broken rope, and get back to it!

JeffintheWest July 5, 2013 at 8:06 pm

Um…that should be “tie a KNOT in that broken rope,…” ;-)

Sirius July 6, 2013 at 1:47 am

No shit brother! “Tie a knot in that broken rope”. “No plan ever survives contact with the enemy”.

Let me add one. “Murphy was a grunt”.

And people wonder why soldiers are so angry. Has anyone actually lived off of MRE’s for more than a week? I would rather eat cold spam and dog food.

Jeff, you mentioned the first Gulf War, etc. Would you please ask M.D. to give you my e-mail address, or just have him forward a message? Please. I think we may know some people in common. M.D. If Jeff makes the request, this is my O.K. to do this. I’ll send you a separate e-mail if you think it’s necessary.

JeffintheWest July 6, 2013 at 1:40 pm

Sent an e-mail to MD asking him to forward….

Brenda July 5, 2013 at 2:15 pm

At the end of 2011, I started a 5 year plan on becoming more self-sufficient; garden, chickens, etc… In some ways we are farther ahead than what I had originally planned and in some ways we are behind. The plans are ever changing but I still have the primary goal in focus.

When it comes to the food storage I am organized and I know what I have in stock! When it comes to other stuff, I am scattered and very unorganized! After reading the post on the intellectual prepper and the one about procrastination I have spent the last two days revising my lists and trying to make a better plan.

OhioPrepper July 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm

Brenda,
The important thing is that you have a goal and you are actively doing what it takes to move toward it.

tommy2rs July 5, 2013 at 2:26 pm

I’d add failure to plan for change

As time changes you, and it will, your survival needs will change as well. Gear, tools and even foods that were great in one’s 20′s, 30′s and even 40′s might not work as well for you in your 50′s, 60′s, 70′s and up. Might be a shock to hit the long term storage only to discover that your body now can’t digest or tolerate the supplies you were depending on. Eat what you store, even the long term supplies, and resupply as needed. Change things out as conditions warrant.

The one constant, other than change itself, is water. That need will never change. The ability to carry it over distances will. After all water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon. That makes a five gallon bucket 40 pounds and change and two puts you at 80+. Even with a neck yoke that may come to be an insurmountable load. Smaller buckets mean more trips, more exposure.

If arthritis gives you a hand that you can’t quite close into a fist any more what will you do if you have to fight? Be prepared to have to change, adapt and overcome physical limitations in every area as time goes on, whether SHTF or not.

Winomega July 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Tommy2rs, I have a question that I can’t figure out how to phrase.

My grandfather was still buying bulk-packs of ramen and pudding cups when they stopped his chemo. He was given three months to live and he kept adding to the stockpile.

I guess some of it was a habit to keep treats around for the grandkids, and some of it just habit from the cold-war days. I think only the blacksheep didn’t have a pantry that Grandpa’s would be desirable in less than a month.

I guess with that context, I could perhaps ask with a good meaning, “When do you give up?”

tommy2rs July 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm

Me, never. It’s learned behavior from examples set by my parents and grandparents. They all “kept on keepin’ on” up until they died. Even when my mother had to deal with hospice at the end of her life, she’d send me out to get a few things just in case.

I may get killed, I may fall over dead or wake up that way but I’ll have kept on keepin’ on no matter what. Death comes for us all but no one has to be waiting around for him. Dylan Thomas said it best, “Do not go gentle into that good night”

Of course The Boss says I’m so stubborn I’ll probably tell Death he’ll have to wait until I’ve finished what I’m doing at that moment…..lol.

Winomega July 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm

tommy2rs

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I’m sorry, all I can think of is “Ventrilo Harassment – Duke Nukem Style”

The link is offensive, (make sure you’re alone,) but it does not diminish my speechlessness of awe.

Brenda July 5, 2013 at 10:14 pm

Winomega,
My exhusbands dad was given 6 months to live and he lived for another 13 years. He had 6 children and he decided that he was going to live long enough to see the youngest graduate high school. he died a month after the graduation. You keep on because to stop is to give up hope.

Brenda July 5, 2013 at 11:01 pm

Part of our plan is to remodel our home mainly because there is a very real chance that my DH will end up in a wheelchair. That is one of the main reasons that bugging out is not really an option.

We are working to set up our garden to be easier for us to work as we get older. Most everything we do is with future abilities in mind.

WYO Ryder July 5, 2013 at 2:31 pm

#6 hit me like a bad smell…guilty big time.

I ‘go 9-0′ from 5:00am to 11:00am 7 days a week but still my lists don’t get completely done. I need to make my ‘to do’ lists shorter with less expectations so in getting one thing done, I will have a better sense of accomplishment and not feel so stressed.

Some positive moves that have recently helped my focus: I stopped watching TV news nor do I read other sites (except MD’s) so to not get overwhelmed by U.S government & world crap and I started working out again (in the hopes I don’t get sick again!)

Encourager July 5, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Ouch…#5 and #6 bit me in the….
#6 hits when I do NOT make a plan and work that plan. Then I am running around in circles doing a bit here and bit there and never completing anything…except wasting my precious time. After a few days of that, it hits home and I take a big step back and start to make a plan. I need to stay focused.

Son of Liberty July 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm

Some very good advice, and I appreciate the practical aspects of it. One thing I think is vitally important is the idea of community, and the book, “Discovery to Catastrophe,” has outlined some sound advice.

Community helps us to have accountability partners. To develop a plan, spread out the responsibilities, use other people’s strengths, and pool resources can assist us in preparations tremendously.

Again, the book “Discovery to Catastrophe” will provide some great ideas on how to accomplish a sound prepping plan, and doing something consistently every week we can (over time) accomplish the tasks necessary to survive TEOTWAWKI.

Blessings

Scarecrow1989 July 5, 2013 at 4:14 pm

Great post M.D. A lot of what I went through a few months ago. The key is to keep on keeping on..

TrailGuide July 5, 2013 at 4:28 pm

3 years ago I went 150 mph from being a complete sheep to Oh My. Initial panic was to shore up at least 3 weeks of food. Steep step when you have less than 2 days on hand (hey – I pass 3 grocery stores on my way home). We packed away wheat, rice, beans, etc for that ‘What If’ and very quickly thought – wheat, rice & beans are going to seriously test my culinary skills pretty darn quick. After The Panic, I settled into a ‘think it through’ and accumulated stuff based on need learning to rely on the ‘home store’. If I find something I don’t have in stock – it goes on the list of 2 is 1 and 1 is 0.
There is a steep learning curve between ‘preppin’ in case and becoming self-sufficient.
Preppers stock a bunch of stuff in case they might have to eat it.
Self-sufficient is the route we deemed better than relying on MRE’s, freeze dried something (not knocking freezed-dried, some are worth their weight in silver). Point being – live the life, or prepare to be amaze in a not-so-pleasant way.

Thanks to M.D. and fine folks here, I’ve come to re-think survival.

p.s. With the chicken palace done, 10 barred-rocks in residence. I found chicken don’t need their heads cut off to run around like it ain’t there!… learnt things as my granny said. ~..~ TG

Winomega July 5, 2013 at 5:17 pm

Trail Guide, OMG!

What you said about Preppers and Self-Sufficient.

There is going to have to be both.

Well, self-sufficiency already brings to mind of endeavoring to store more harvest than what the winter requires. Find a way to manipulate the bounty of others into a stockpile worth many winters

But just stockpiling food, those ground-squirrels will have to emerge sometime to start becoming the self-sufficient.

Perhaps my “will work for food” fallback plan would work better if I carried some seeds. Perhaps hibernation preppers could also find that seeds would be a good barter/peace offering for a skilled master gardener if they don’t manage to have a green thumb.

R-Me July 5, 2013 at 6:29 pm

#4 is my short coming,, failure to act! There is so much I’m ready with, but the one thing I worry about the most goes untouched. We have chickens and the garden so we are self sufficient as well as being preppers. We have 6 months of food, ammo for all the rifles and hand guns, well trained dogs and a defendable home.

I worry about our water, I know it’s the most important thing I can prep for,, but that’s all I do is worry about it! We have a well that works off electric and I’ve looked at many ways to get water incase of no power. But I haven’t acted on any of them, I am over whelmed! DH even bought me a book to build your own solar cells, and I’m more over whelmed than ever.

We have 4 big barrels to collect cistern-type water from rain and a few cases of bottled water. I’m saving $$ for a hand pump,,, who would have thought it would run better than $1700.

Have to hope the S doesn’t HTF too soon,

Winomega July 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm

R-me, even though my parents had a well, my knowledge is that this thing in the yard used to be red, then it was blue, and a story about how the head needed to be replaced because of a lightening strike.

I’m afraid I don’t have it memorized, but there was an article about how to bucket-draw water from a modern well.

Print out instructions now. Skim your ice-cream budget ASAP for cheap high-labor solutions.

Dammit, now I want to cut open my 4-gallon full of factory-sanitized water so I can build a filter for swamp-water out of it.

R-Me July 5, 2013 at 7:59 pm

You’re right, the time to act is now
(but how did you know ice cream is my personal passion)?

More research,, more action

Penny Pincher July 8, 2013 at 4:59 pm

You are miles ahead of the next guy.
I was just thinking about water. I have a filter that will get me 15 gallons a day for 6 months. There is a way to fire clay and bits of straw in coals in a pit into a bowl to use as a drip filter – you can also use a T-shirt, sand and then charcoal to filter water. I figure as long as I have 5-gallon buckets to hold water, I’ll have a water filter, because I have 6 months to figure it out. I also have a rain barrel, purifying tabs for about 3 days, a hockey puck size pool shock tablet that I can grind up and make bleach to purify water, and a hydration bladder filter. And I live a block from a major river.

So don’t worry too much – learn how to make the clay water filter, and learn how to filter with sand and charcoal. That way you can keep making your own water filters. If you live in a desert, though, that’s another problem altogether.

Zaeda July 5, 2013 at 8:26 pm

#1 – if anything I’m “Under-confident” there will be so many variables, and I’ve prayed to be able to “bug-in” but that may not be an option, especially in my area. What about my water storage, food supply, all other preps – well, can’t fit them into a BOB. I know my husband and I have “his and hers” bug out bags – we each have the same food, water, and other stuff is based on his or my needs. My brother makes paracord bracelets, headbands, belts, anklets, etc, etc… I make sure to wear one at all times- but the belt one is my favorite! As I have d-rings attached to it with pouches that contain zip-locked heirloom seed packets (why not bring some with in a BOB?), and a few other things I wouldn’t be able to fit into the bag itself. Not over packed though! Still haul-able.

#2 – I only procrastinate when I’m waiting for items to go one BOGO sales, or on coupons. Although, I do need more water storage =X

#3 – Food was my very first prep – we couldn’t afford a water tank until last year – I still need to fill a dozen or so juice bottles I have in a bag in the pantry with water (procrastinating :( ) I really need to get started on more water prepping.

Also, for all you gun enthusiasts, my DH is a HUGE enthusiast, and I do trust him to know what gun would fit me best, but I’d like a few “opinions” as I have decided to go for my Concealed Weapon Permit – what is the EASIEST, most basic “handgun” someone can learn on? I recently just got a pink .22, and I adore it! Now I want a nice pistol that I can carry.

#4 Most of the time it’s people who believe they can’t afford to prep, or there is nothing to prep for, I thought I wouldn’t be able to prep – but I realized it’s possible even on the most meager income.

#5 I wish I had enough money to just buy everything at once – but it’s NOT worth it, everything will expire at the same time – why waste preps? Even if you can afford to do it (and yes, a lot of people assume you have to be wealthy to prepare).

Imagine you purchased 25 year shelf life food, and you did get the beans, rice, grains, the mills, etc – since you purchased them all at the exact same time – they will go bad at the same time. When you plan out your prepping, weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly – you will have a vast majority of food that is newer, than what is older – since you’re actually using the food! Doesn’t make sense to just buy it all at once!

Oh, and I would rather buy the freeze dried meats – since I can cut way down on the salt I’m adding to any dish, since they are mostly salty as well. I haven’t like much freeze dried items – although the augason farms stuff from walmart ISN’T that bad at all, and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than other 25 year #10 can’s. Although I actually made recipes that cooked for up to 8 hours in a crock-pot. I’m sure they can go into a dutch oven. You should make a meal plan though – so it’s easier to use your food stock wisely ;)

#6 I am 10000% guilty of this, since I wait for sales to shop. It’s not only a problem, but it’s also a habit for a lot of people, including myself. We all think at times “We have more time”, and “well I’ll do it next week”.

Now that I’ve stressed myself out, lol! I do have another question – I’m curious to know who else is “group prepping” Honestly, It’s my brother, husband, and I – as my parents, husbands parents, and siblings feel that there isn’t a need to do what we’re doing. We’ve taken on the responsibility of desperately prepping for them all (65 people in all) We do 12 people on hubby’s side and my brother and I split out family (26/27) other people. In total we’re trying to get at least a one month food supply for 39-ish people. Are we crazy?

We basically use the money we receive for birthday’s and holiday’s to prep more for family. Who else does this?

Bam Bam July 5, 2013 at 10:27 pm

Zaeda,

When you take the class for the permit, your instructor will most likely have a variety of guns for you to try–at least one revolver and one semi-automatic. I played around with a number of different guns and the Glock 19 just felt right to me. I don’t want a hammer to have to cock. And I wanted something that carried more than six or seven rounds. And something that was easy to shoot and reliable. For me, this was the Glock 19. Call up the gun range that offers the gun safety course and see what they have for you to shoot. I don’t know a whole lot about guns, but two of the more popular guns with the ladies in the class that I took were the .38 special and the 9 mm.

kimigee33 July 6, 2013 at 8:19 am

Zaeda,
My husband also taught me to shoot and I got my concealed carry permit last year. I learned on a Ruger .22 and discovered that it’s a little more difficult for a woman to find a gun that fits her hand. Our local gun club had a special class for women only. They had a variety of hand guns there to try out. The Glock Model 26 ( a 9mm subcompact) fits my hand well, as well as the Ruger LC 9. You could also try the Smith and Wesson M&P 9 Shield. And check out the website Gun Totin Mamas. They sell purses with built in holsters for easy carry.

Zaeda July 7, 2013 at 11:48 am

Bam Bam, thank you – here in NY we’re only allowed to have 8 rounds since the “Safe Act”. My hubby and brother can teach me – since both of them have been carrying for so long.

Kimigee33 – EXACTLY, it is more difficult to find something to fit my hand, I am going to see if our sportsman’s club offers a course for women only. THANK YOU for the information on the gun totin mamas site – I saved it to my favorites! a lot of links to a lot of great information there~

Thank you!

Middleagedmama July 7, 2013 at 1:40 pm

Regarding choosing a firearm for ladies – I’m a NRA certified instructor and I work in a gun store. I sell lots of guns to women. A few things to consider when you go gun shopping. Lightweight guns are popular but there are trade-offs when going for the super lightweight gun. There is a direct relationship between light weight guns and felt recoil. In general, the lighter the gun the more you’ll feel the recoil. I personally find lightweight 38 revolvers very painful to shoot. My preference is a 9mm semi-automatic. Try the: Glock 19 or 26, M&P 9C (compact), Ruger LC9, Taurus 709 Slim, Springfield XDS, Beretta Nano, the M&P Shield (but good luck in finding one as they are scarce as hen’s teeth right now), and Sig 938. I find all of these easy to shoot, quite accurate, and fairly concealable depending on time of year and clothing I’m wearing. If you can take a class from a woman, do so. And, hugely important is the need to practice regularly after taking your CCW class. The class is step one, you graduated from kindergarten with that certificate. Keep training and keep shooting as it’s a perishable skill.

OhioPrepper July 7, 2013 at 9:43 pm

Middleagedmama,
As an NRA Instructor & TC, I agree with most of your post; however, for semi-autos, running failure drills is as important as being able to engage and hit the target.

OhioPrepper July 7, 2013 at 9:41 pm

Zaeda,
“what is the EASIEST, most basic “handgun” someone can learn on?”
That would be a small frame revolver, in perhaps 38 Special. If you purchase one in .357 Magnum, it will also chamber 38 Special and 38 Special +P, giving you a range of loads with which to practice. The revolver is a simple gun both to maintain and operate. Assuming the gun is loaded, if it goes “click”, you simply pull the trigger again.
For those who have decided to choose semi-autos, my question would be to all of you, How often do you run failure drills? Unlike a revolver, if a semi-auto goes click, you must be able to clear the jam without thinking about it, and get the gun back into the fight.

Texanadian July 5, 2013 at 11:18 pm

Myself and my TW (Trophy Wife) just live the life. We don’t have TV and therefore we have time to talk. Try it folks, you might learn some things about your spouse. Our goal is not to spend any money we don’t have at the grocery store. So we garden and raise chickens and sell eggs, buy things on sale. Our way of prepping is to think what do we do if we can’t go to the grocery store? Many times when we are making something and think that we have to drive 20 miles to get what we need we just go, oh, we have some of that. Use a little and carry on.

I see it as a homesteader mentality as opposed to prepping for the worst case scenario. We’re ready because we assume that we can’t rely on the government services. If it is bad they are going to look after their familes

JL July 5, 2013 at 11:59 pm

Honestly I would love to have a bunker, but that’s very unlikely to happen. I have really tried to be balanced, food and water were first. I had started with a 2 week goal, then added 2-5 days a week depending on money and sales. As for freeze dried food I have some but I would rather have individual ingredients then meals. The meals I have will be spaced with other food. I finally got water filters!!! Super happy!!! I did lose a little steam so I took a break. Just for a week but it was needed.
Oh I did buy some canned food we hated, it was very cheap but now I know not to buy that. I was able to give it to a friend in need who loves it. It reminds me to only buy 1 of something new until we try it.

Mexneck July 6, 2013 at 12:30 am

Number 5 is my current issue. I’ve been storing and trying to put back but lately I slacked off a little bit. OK, a lot. As far as thinking you know more than you do, that is my gardening. I need to go back to garden 101 so for the fall garden I can actually get something edible. DW is cheering my efforts and luckily has picked up some of my slack. Having a teammate is the most important prep of all.

Rick July 6, 2013 at 9:15 am

I’d say #5 applies to me. I have too many short-term issues that get in the way of my preps. Not to say I couldn’t weather the storm for a couple months with what I got, but there are some things I’d like to have that I haven’t gotten around to doing yet.

My biggest issue is not getting out and practicing my skills more. It’s been over a year since I really had the chance to do some field work, and while I can do a lot around the house, I keep putting it off for some reason or other.

RDY2SRV July 6, 2013 at 9:59 am

7. The one that will take out the most people will be Hopelessness he will rule the day as people go threw the withdrawals of convenience!

Mexneck July 6, 2013 at 10:07 am

I agree,
most people when faced with the fact that they don’t know where their next meal will come from will just give up. I don’t wish it on anyone but there are still so many people with their heads stuck in the sand out of fear or ignorance.

T.R. July 6, 2013 at 9:14 pm

Very true , there are a lot of people out there today with no or almost no survival instinct . Hard mind set for us to understand , but they are literally like children in times of a crisis and just roll over and die .

Rick July 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Saw it first-hand during the Blizzard of ’06 (Winter Storm Aphid). My girlfriend all but shut down for three days when she got stranded at my house. Largely because she couldn’t get fresh salad (her personal dietary kick at the time). Four feet of snow, my Explorer was jammed in a snow bank up the street, I walk with a cane and she wanted me to somehow go to the store to get her a bag of 50/50 mix.

T.R. July 7, 2013 at 6:40 pm

Hahahahaha , my ex wife was the same , bless her heart , but she was easily intimidated by anything and fell apart at the smallest of issues . I’m very much the opposite , coming from a long line of Confederates , and then Pioneers after , I just dig in and get stubborn , if not simply just kick its ass right then and there . Problem is with that kind of situation , is that the other person becomes over dependent on the one that likes to resist threats and take care of business . It becomes more of a doctor / patient situation , rather than a healthy husband /wife situation . I see that quite a bit , so you are definitely not alone . I lucked out and met my equal with a Russian woman , different society , different upbringing . Strong and tough when she needs to be , but a woman at all times .

TG July 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm

Number 6, I am so guilty. I am working on it though.

T.R. July 6, 2013 at 9:03 pm

Most wont survive because of simple bad luck . Being in the wrong place at the wrong time or caught off guard overrun by the Trogs . Biggest problem is , that we wont be completely sure of when the hammer is going to fall , with enough warning to get out or hunker down with your support of trusted people in place . One interesting and scary thing Selco said was that , up to the last min. , the government was broadcasting ” we have a plan , stay calm , things are going to be under controle very quickly ” ……all while the government leaders were getting out en mass and secrecy . Then the next day it went to shit . Night and day ………….that is way too possible a senario for this country . It also may be a gradual degradation , over a period of weeks or months before its full blown SHTF . That may actually be one of the worst stages for everybody ….the panic . Just moving around or going outside at that time could be lethal .

Winomega July 7, 2013 at 2:11 am

T.R.

I’m reminded of the first episode of Adventure Time. Don’t watch it unless you enjoy the sensation of your brains liquifying and running into your socks.

The princess made the hero swear to never tell the townspeople about the zombies, and he blabbed after the zombies were neutralized. (Lampshade about how cool it was even though he subverted the moral of the story.)

monk July 7, 2013 at 3:16 am

Guns, purchased survival gear, etc., won’t last in long-term crises. One has to learn skills needed for sustainability, resilience, and localization, such as permaculture, herbal medicine, etc.

TN Mommy July 7, 2013 at 8:00 am

I often find myself procrastinating because I’m still a relatively new prepper and I don’t want to go overboard. I think we have about 2 months worth of rice and beans, but I really want to have a nice 1 year supply of food. But remember, if you are broke and only have 2 months worth of food, you are WAAAAAY ahead of others.

A morbid topic to remember is that the sheeple are not immortal. They will start dying off pretty quickly. Once they run out of water, they will probably get desperate and start drinking unfiltered water. They will get sick. Days without food will make them weak. If you can hunker down for a month, most of them will have expired from starvation or sickness. :(

I think it’s important to remember to prep for extra people if at all possible. Many of us can boldly say “if they didn’t prep, that’s their problem.” Remember that the sheeple have children. They will likely give almost all of the food and clean water to the children. What are you going to do when you see abandoned and scared children wandering around because their parents have died? Are you capable of turning your back on a child? Because if you are not, then it’s important to make sure you have lots of extra food.

My last thing is, yes freeze dried food gets old after a while, but food is fuel not for pleasure. A good way to prep is to buy one of those 30 day supplies of freeze dried goods that Sams Club sells for 88 bucks. Get one of them every month, every pay period, whatever. It’s a nice way to have some extra stuff to eat in between all the rice, beans, ramen, spaghetti Os, etc… :)

TexasScout July 7, 2013 at 8:16 am

Well I tried to read this on my phone as I do most stuff like this but an Academy Sports and Outdoors ad popped up and covered half the screen. You really should choose your adverts better.

franko July 7, 2013 at 5:39 pm

Thanks for all the good comments folks, I learnt a lot from them and am guilty of many points in the article. My biggest fault is putting off clearing and construction of a BOL. The land is purchased, the equipment is all ready, the only thing missing is me taking a few days off here and there to get it cleared and begin setting up. I plan on a 40 foot site office as the home and a 20 foot shiping container as a garage and have waiting for a big collapse in Australian mining and construction to get them on the cheap. Now that has happened so I have no excuse.

Texanadian July 7, 2013 at 9:42 pm
T.R. July 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm

Now I’ve seen everything . Why didnt we think of that !!!!

Texanadian July 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm
T.R. July 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

This is why our forefathers intended the people to be able to have anything the authorities had ……….to stop tyranny . why they alo intended that every town have and maintain a militia .

Penny Pincher July 8, 2013 at 5:06 pm

I’ve got this phobia that I’ve forgotten something. And my income has dwindled over the last year so I’m kind of broke. I usually have more income in the summer, and so far this year it’s been a total bust.

I think my biggest weakness is, I’m not organized enough, and I think I need to harden the house some, especially the front door. The fact that the toilet is right in front of a window bothers me too. Every time I sit on it, I think about snipers.

Texanadian July 8, 2013 at 9:34 pm

Put a towel over it that is thick and impermeable to sunlight and use a flashlight. Buy or build a door block, I do believe one is advertised on this site.

Texanadian July 8, 2013 at 9:36 pm

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