This is a guest post and entry in our non-fiction writing contest  by SurvivorDan

I’ve got a bad attitude today so it inspired me to write about having the right attitude.

This post is about a state of mind.

Many posts are about things you can do to resolve a problem. Concrete actions you should take in a crises. A series of actions, some with very specific learned skill sets that you train on and then apply, to solve a problem. Seems logical that we would focus on prepper supplies and skills like storing up long term foods, seeds and farming techniques, tools, antibiotics and vitamins, medical supplies, purifying water, alternative fuels, raising livestock for meat, milk, eggs and wool, security and Opsec equipment and methods, etc ad infinitum. Or learning wilderness survival skill sets that allow us to find and store water, gather and prepare food, create a fire, build a shelter, read maps, GPSs, navigate by the stars, etc.

Let us not forget the common crises and SHTF (sh*t-hits-the-fan) crises such as car breakdowns, accidents, etc. And so besides survival supplies you carry emergency vehicle tools like fire extinguishers, shovels, road flares, spare parts, car tools, 1st aid kits, flashlights, etc. You can change a tire, radiator hose, tighten a battery connection, dig the car out of a ditch, hunker down in the disabled vehicle with your other survival supplies, signal for help, illuminate an accident scene, etc.

Then there are home invasions, fires, power outage, natural disasters, burglary, medical emergencies, etc. You have emergency supplies and tools in your house. You have extra water and food, alternative fueled food cooking devices, water purification chemicals and techniques, a generator, weapons for self-defense and hunting, candles, oil lamps and flashlights, 1st aid kits, fire extinguishers, etc. You’re a regular boy scout. You are prepared. But will you really act? Will you?

There has been one main demonstrable factor or commonality among survivors of serious crises such as lost in the wilderness, car crash in an isolated and hidden area, buried and trapped in a structure due to earthquake or flood, violent home invasion, forest fires, stranded in the middle of a revolution, etc. Revolution?! Yes, I am citing some extreme examples but the point is that regardless of the circumstances and even the amount of preparedness (though preparedness does contribute heavily to a favorable outcome) those who found a way to survive all had attitude.

Attitude. Not just the will to live, though that helps. It’s more than that. Heck, even a tiny critter with a brain the size of a pea will battle for it’s last breath. Does it have attitude? No, it has instincts. The instinctual desire to survive is ubiquitous among all creatures. Hence their species survives. Humans have it too. I meet people who tell me they don’t prepare for or even think about a major disaster let alone TEOTWAWKI (the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it) because, “I don’t want to be around (alive) if my part of the world is devastated.” They say it with casual indifference and dismissal of the topic. They are prepared to perish … they are at peace with what the Fates will bring. Hardly.

Having spent time in war torn countries and more recently at major disasters with the local Sheriff’s department , I know that those same people crawl out of the rubble and their survival instincts make them scramble to live. Or at least then they demand that government solves the problem which they scoffed at and refused to prepare for. The instinct to survive (even in a dismissive, haughty, lazy human) is powerful.

People often turn into beasts in their desperate instinctual desire to live. In the immediate aftermath of a major disaster, the unprepared moral weaklings abandon all social constraints and any sense of morality evaporates as the instinct to survive and the ‘mob rule’ mentality of the hapless sets in and people become desperate, self-centered, self-gratifying, anything-goes monsters especially in the absence or scarcity of law enforcement. They have been reduced to their baser instincts. Goblins. Eventually, most of them perish. Wrong attitude.

The right attitude…

What most survivors have in common is the will to act and the determination to solve problems step by step without let up until their situation is stabilized or they are rescued. They do not stop reasoning and resolving each survival issue. They always push forward with each task making every attempt to resolve the problem. They tend to organize those around them to complete tasks and so the division of labor is assigned and accomplished.

The less take-charge but reasonably intelligent survivors acquiesce to the ‘lead’ survivor(s) apparent knowledge or at least decisiveness. And so they improve their own chances of survival. (Unlike the goblins who have lost their humanity to baser instincts and fear and merely take what they can with no regard for others or ethics and morality.) Survivors have the attitude that things need doing and they are going to get done.

He or she leads. During the disaster or it’s immediate aftermath it is time for action. It is not the time for self-pity or despair. So the survivorist/survivalist makes a plan and then acts to put it in motion. He breaks up the major disaster into smaller crises which can be resolved and cumulatively improve the overall situation. Find water, safe shelter, food, ration/rotate food, make fire, set up security, tend to the injured, send out reconnaissance parties when things are stabilized, contact government entities, form a local government, etc.

Assign tasks to anyone who is able. Working tends to take folks minds off the overall disaster and focuses them on the assigned tasks at hand. Less time to wallow in self-pity and despair. The right sort of positive can-do attitude is contagious. People can be uplifted by one person’s positive outlook and drive to overcome the problems they are all facing. Set an example for others to follow…..plan, lead, act, inspire and uplift. Have the right stuff. The right attitude….

Have you got IT?

What drove/motivated you in an emergency?

What inspired you to persevere?

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  1. Mental Focus, speedy decisiveness and violence of action. Remember those and exercise them and everything else will work itself out….

  2. SD: Great Article!

    I have tried to put myself into a number of different survival situations and work through what I would do and how I would divide up the work based upon who I think will be there. This helps me with the logistics side.

    I the other issue is what you are addressing her; not the will to survive but thrive. To take the situation that you are in and work on improving your life from there. I think this is the attitude of most of the people on this blog; Survive then Thrive.


  3. Great article. You are so right. My sister in law is one of those people who says, “If TSHTF, I just want a bullet to the head, I don’t want to live through it”. I keep thinking, “I can do that”, but I continue to count her in the number of people I’m storing food for (although, the bullet WOULD be a lot cheaper).

    Yes, attitude makes a world of difference, the difference in just saying to myself, ‘no one is helping me with all these preps, and it would be nice to just spend a little money on myself – even just occasionally’ – but I’ve always been the responsible one, so every spare penny I get
    goes to preps.

    And, speaking of those preps (a little off topic here), when I wrote my article I mentioned that I have a monthly subscription on for a 56 oz jar of Ghee for $20.90 and FREE shipping. Several people asked me about it, and at the time Amazon was out. Well, it’s back! You can choose your own schedule (once per month, once every 4 months, etc), but I have so many to prep for, it’s every month for me. Here is the link:

    Ghee is clarified butter, and supposedly has a very long shelf life – 10 years or more, and even once opened does not have to be refrigerated.

    • Ok, I’m a little on the dim witted side. What is clarified butter and what are its uses? Is it used in place of regular butter? Obviously it has a longer shelf life and would be great for storage. Please go easy on me, I need all the help I can get.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Sam, Clarified butter is what you get in a little cup if you order something like crab claws in a fancy restaurant. Butter has some water and impurities in it from the butter making process. If you heat butter until it is liquid and let it sit for a few minutes a sort of foam will collect on top. If you skim that off the clear melted butter left in the bottom is “clarified”. Yes it can be used in place of regular butter. It is regular butter, it’s just “clarified”.
        I guess that means it’s better than regular butter. It’s used in cooking. You’ll have to find a better cook than I to find out what for and why.

      • TN Sam,
        Clarified butter is also called drawn butter and is used in the west for dipping crab and lobster. In the east (as in India) it is used as an oil for cooking.
        It is actually butter minus the milk solids that would tend to spoil. There are numerous instructions for making it on the web, but in general, you melt butter until it starts to simmer. Milk solids will float to the top and some will sink to the bottom. Skim off those on the top until you have only pure butter, and then carefully pour out the melted butter making sure to not include any of the solids on the bottom. I keep quite a few cans of Ghee in my stores also as it makes a good oil ingredient that stores well.

      • I would NEVER be mean about passing on information, and I do not believe you are dim witted – you are asking for the information you need.

        As you probably know, fats are needed in your diet for a number of reasons, assimilation of fat soluble vitamins, feeling full and taste (no good having mountains of food if it tastes terrible and no one will eat it).

        Ghee is and tastes like butter – yum! You can use it for all the same reasons you use butter, putting on sliced bread, cooking vegetables in, adding to recipes. With the long shelf life, it is good for food storage – I don’t know about you, but while I do have some butter flavored Crisco in my storage (it’s cheap), I’m not terribly fond of hydrogenated fats in my diet (but I’d eat it rather than starve).

        So, when I first started storing food, and had SO OVERWHELMINGLY much to store, I bought only essentials and Crisco (cheap) for fats. Now that I have a little more stored food (no where near where I need to be in prepping for 30 people for a year or more), I can afford to slowly start adding better tasting and ‘fun’ shelf stable foods.

        The Amazon Subscribe and Save program helps me do that (No, I don’t have stock in Amazon, but probably should). Every month I get a small shipment.

        You can do the same thing on Shelf Reliance as well. Even small amounts, shipped automatically, build up quickly.

        • Michele,
          I’m pretty well set for long term foods for a year+ for 4 adults. Did you actually say 30 people? Wow, now that is some goal, and a lot of food. Good luck.

        • Thanks for the info. I ordered a small jar (26 oz?) on the subscription plan. By the way it sounds its uses are many and better for you that some other alteratives. I just canned my first butter last week and that seemed to turn out ok. Taste was fine, just a little grainy. Ghee sounds like it may be a better route than canning butter.
          Keep the Faith

    • Pineslayer says:

      Michele, I too have friends who say they wouldn’t want to live through a WCS. It is BS, a cop-out. They just are too weak to consider the possibilities and what it would take on their behalf to overcome it. When they say the words, “I’m coming over to your place”, and I say, “I don’t think so”, they look at me like I am the person with screwed up priorities. My come-back is, ” If I come to you in 10 or 20 years and ask for 10K, 20K, or 50K”, because I failed to prepare for the future, ” and I have no hope of ever paying it back”, would you had over that cash?

      Never had anyone say yes.

      Me, I want to see how it all plays out, good or bad.

      • Pineslayer,
        I think this is just a human trait that some folks have. It’s easier to make an excuse than do anything about it. I used to work with two excellent engineers, neither of which had degrees, but had worked their way through the ranks into engineering. After being with the company almost 10 years, one of them got his engineering degree, fully paid for by the company’s tuition reimbursement program. The other engineer finally lost his job after more than 25years with the company, and has had trouble finding work in the same field, because he’s lacking that degree, which would have also been fully paid for by the company. All it cost the first guy was the time to attend class and he’s much better for it. I have another engineering friend who decided in her early 40’s that she wanted to become a doctor, so she worked hard and got into medical school. She has her MD and in one more year of residency, will be able to practice on her own. I’ve seen the same ting with neighbors who in their late 20’s and 40’s decided to get out of their factory job by putting in the effort to get trained for something better.

        In nearly all of these cases, those who chose not to put in the time and effort have the attitude of; it must be nice to have all the luck to get that new job, etc. These are the same people that will show up at your door, expecting to be taken care of, and other than turning them away or putting them to work; I don’t see any remedy for these kinds of people.

        • Having been in the position you just described although I did not get company reimbursement and could only afford the technical degree (no fine arts necessary for a baccalaureate) I had not trouble keeping a job when others were getting laid off. I also had a very good work ethic as I told a former supervisor when he told me I did not have to worry about my job and I assured him I most certainly did since I needed it and he agreed with my thinking then. I got tired of hearing the comments about me having all of the luck, being born with a silver spoon in my mouth etc. When I would tell them I was one of eleven children of the poorest family in our small town and the prejudice I had endured because of this and realized in high school that I had to attain an education and remove myself from that environment, they would just become speechless. Yes, I did indeed have to pull myself up on my own and although I had the equivalency certificates of a technical BS in both mechanical and electrical engineering by the time I left the Army after ten years, and eventually received my MS equivalency at 53, I done it all myself except the MS which I got veterans education benefits for but still had to work eight hours a day and attend four hours of school four nights of the week. I once explained to a supervisor when I was promoted and was able to solve a problem that had plagued the engineering department for well over a year (reason for the promotion), that I had the ability to solve it because my knowledge and skills were acquired years before the problem came up. I told him I had always subscribed to the Popular Mechanics, Popular Science and Mechanix Illustrated magazines over the years and checked out the “Whats new” section. I would then study the development, techniques of manufacturing, application, etc until I was fully cognizent of the items. Invariably in about five years time it would appear in some form in the manufacturing environment. To this one simple little thing I attribute my achievments in life. I could have been reading comics or girly magazines but instead chose the technical and science fiction magazines.

          • Harold,
            So what you’re saying is that you’re a geek, or nerd as the case may be. Welcome to the club. I have a BS in engineering and at 61 still do engineering for a living, and have to say that all of those same resources (like Popular Mechanics, Electronics, etc) have also been a part of my life and given me the same edge. Too many people want the reward without the effort.

      • village idiot says:

        Pineslayer, I’m going to steal your comeback if you don’t mind. That’s the best example I’ve ever seen for the people who don’t prepare for the future, but have no problem with showing up and taking advantage of your preps.

        • Pineslayer says:

          Hey OhioP and VI, I wish I could get through to these people as they are friends. Seems like that I will have to turn many away as my budget is stretched. Bottom line is that not one has come over to help build up the gardens or other projects and I am the one who helps all that ask. My conscience is clear, now. Tough times call for tough decisions. Attitude can be a fork in the road.

          • SurvivorDan says:

            Pineslayer: When the would be free loaders that I know have to have the latest electronic gizmo, $500 game thingy, a new car every three years, exotic vacations, etc. and claim they don’t have the means to prep….my blood boils. May just lay in more pepper spray and birdshot for when they come a knockin’.

      • SurvivorDan says:

        Pineslayer: I like that. Good come back for the I’m-coming-to your-house-folks. I’ve heard that a lot from my wife’s family. When I tell them not to come empty handed they think I’m a jerk. Hey, short term emergencies – I’m there to help. TEOTWAWTI – get lost. They smile at my sacrifice to prep and yet they expect to free load. Pathetic.

  4. Rich Muszynski says:

    greetings. the right attitude says the Marine quote of “Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way.” You describe how the Marines are trained to function. but one thing you assume that can get you killed is the belief of who they owe allegiance, because they are part of the governments military they owe alliance not to the people they are with, but to their superiors. so will contact the government of course, for orders. and if the superior they contact is having a bad day and orders them to kill all of the group they are with. there is a good chance they will do exactly that. is well to remember the government is for the government, not the people in the nation. consider New Orleans and the government forcing people not to leave the disaster area, with national guard troops and police with orders to shoot to kill anyone trying to help themselves and get the hell out of the flooded city. is good to know who your enemies are and not depend on their well wishes.

    • Actually when in the military our oath was to preserve and protect the Constitution and obey the Lawful orders of superiors above us. Notice the stress on the lawful orders. The military decided after the Veterans Bonus marchers were fired on by the army detail that was commanded by DDE in the 1920’s and the Nuremburg trials in 1946 when the Nazis said they were only following orders, that the military would not ever again fire on American citizens and would only obey lawful orders. Issuing an order to kill an American citizen is not a lawful order to a sworn military person. The CIA, however is another story.

      • SurvivorDan says:

        “…and obey the Lawful orders of superiors….”
        Thanks for answering that Harold. I was at Katrina and was not aware of orders to shoot to kill folks trying to leave. Yes, there was the bridge incident where LEOs and citizens forcibly prevented folks from pouring into their area. That was terrible but relatively isolated and not the rule. I was there in a law enforcement and search and rescue capacity and we only bean bagged one idiot among many looters and rioters.
        I do agree with Rich that the Feds are in it for themselves and not us, but among responding law enforcement and military units…great restraint was shown. Had we orders to shoot to kill (which we did not) and had we obeyed such unlawful orders, there would have been many, many dead folks who menaced us and looted.
        My son is an active duty Marine (who has served at a FOB in Afghanistan) and I know that I have taught him better than to follow unlawful orders. He is a fine young man of conscience and not a mindless killing automaton. “… there is a good chance they will do exactly that…” I don’t blame Rich at all for being cynical but I have more faith in our lads in the military.

  5. tommy2rs says:

    Been through 5 hurricanes, the attitude that got me through those and other troubles was always “Improvise, Adapt, Overcome”.

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Tommy2rs, not to try and one up you but I had been through 5 huricanes before I was 10 years old and I’m 61 now. I couldn’t agree with you more!

    • SurvivorDan says:

      “Improvise, Adapt, Overcome”

      You jarheads are hard to keep down. Never met many that said something couldn’t be done. Semper Fi!

  6. Great article SD. How would you recommend getting out of a funk and into the right attitude during a crisis? I am sure shock can cause a wide array of emotions that can blindside those of us who have not experienced much in the way of disaster.

    • SurvivorDan says:

      Actually I suffer from PTSD (or so the VA shrinks have told me) which involves various degrees of agoraphobia, hyper-vigilance and over-controlled hostility index. The interesting thing about anxiety is that in a crisis I don’t get anxious because I work industriously to overcome the situation. To persevere. I am at my best working in a disaster area, on a search and rescue mission or during a serious social situation because I am prepared to resolve any problems.
      Have the training and knowledge(and preps) to lead during a disaster and you will be too busy to be in shock.
      Take a wilderness survival training course, take an EMT course, take a tactical firearms class (or three). Read MD’s books and stay here. I learn so much from the people on this site.
      You will persevere in a disaster because you trained for it and have gained the confidence. And take strength from your faith in whatever you believe in. I have…more than once.
      In combat and at disasters I have recruited the slackers and the frightened and put them in charge of something to keep them busy and they rallied.

  7. charlie (NC) says:

    Great article Dan.

    I don’t talk about prepping to very many local folks for reasons of OPSEC. The ones I do talk to are carefully selected because I think they are like minded. I get fooled once in a while. One guy who is ex-military, a life long hunter and a self proclaimed gun expert and excellent shot (in a sniper type context such as shooting deer from long range) was one of those that fooled me. I talked to him because he is a re-loader and his skills might come in very handy. The first time I talked to him a year or more ago he reacted strangly or at least differently than I expected. He said, “if things get that bad what do you want to live for”. Well as times passed and things in this country have evolved he’s started to change his tune. Back then he thought someone was crazy for owning what is known as a “battle rifle”. He didn’t think anyone needed any kind of a rifle unless it was designed for deer hunting or some similar purpose. Now he is coming around. I guess he’s starting to think about the life his grand daughter might or might not have. I don’t know what his motivations are but he no longer thinks I’m crazy for prepping.

    As for leadership. A guy that is a natural born leader in one circumstance might fail miserably in another situation. The only way to find out is to be there and do that. Unfortunately we don’t always get to practice. I do firmly believe in the old saying, that which does not kill us makes us stronger and folks who have put there selves out there, faced adversity and lived through it (regardless of their performance) are more likely to survive and thrive in the next crisis.

    • SurvivorDan says:

      Yeah charlie….when life has pounded you a few times and you’ve been in the fire … come out ‘tempered’. Stronger. Tougher. I look at my folks who are in their eighties. They lived through the Great Depression and WWII . THEY are tougher than nails! Nothing….nothing….phases my folks. I feel like a woosy next to my dad. Tough old cooter. Strong spirit. Tempered…..

      • ‘when life has pounded you a few times and you’ve been in the fire … come out ‘tempered’. Stronger. Tougher’.
        ‘I do firmly believe in the old saying, that which does not kill us makes us stronger and folks who have put there selves out there, faced adversity and lived through it (regardless of their performance) are more likely to survive and thrive in the next crisis.’ Charlie

        ‘when life has pounded you a few times and you’ve been in the fire … come out ‘tempered’. Stronger. Tougher.’ SurvivorDan


  8. SurvivorDan,
    Our MAG has taken an attitude that we call “Stepping Up”. It basically means going out of your way and taking the initiative in things both large and small. From stepping up and opening the door for someone with their arms full, to being the first to step into an accident situation, that leadership attitude is often contagious. There have been cases when someone has had an accident or perhaps a stroke or heart attack, and a dozen people simply stand around seemingly not knowing what to do. That one person stepping up, taking command of the situation, and perhaps barking a few orders, like “Somebody call 911” can often be the catalyst to make things happen. Once you’ve started making a difference you might even find out that some of the bystanders had CPR or First Aid training, but had never been in a situation to use it. There are IMHO a lot of people out there who are not leaders, but perhaps well trained sheep, willing and able to help as soon as someone tells them what to do. It takes some practice, but every one of us can be that leader with the correct Attitude.

  9. worrisome says:

    Clarified butter is butter melted and warmed and the scummy/froth removed from the top…..what is left therefore is is the clear fat of butter. Then it is strained once more and then canned. Clarified butter is wonderful when remelted and used to dip things like lobster or crab in. Or as a shelf stable butter for preppers to use for almost anything. Hope that helps TNSam…:)

  10. Excellent article!

    Having lived in a TWC & worked in other exotic spots (Mindanao, Iraq, etc.) I have come to the conclusion that not all people have the “Attitude & Will” to live.
    Have seen many victims/survivors just stumble around long after an “All Hazards” incident, until someone finally took them under their wing & provided for them. In a SHTF & especially a TEOTWAWKI scenario, these people are SOOLuck.
    Look at Katrina & the attitudes of the inhabitants of the NOLA…just stood their, reverting back to basic instincts, waiting for the government to come to their aid.
    This is the flotsam that people with a survivalist attitude will have to either get by or make the hard decisions to by-pass IOT take care of their family/group unit.
    As many have learned in far off places, “Kindness is Weakness” and one had better learn how to harden both their heart & resolve if they wish to survive.

    • worrisome says:

      out of 100 people, 10% will do absolutely the wrong thing, 10% will do absolutely the right thing, the other 80% will be waiting for someone to follow…………..which percentage do ya want to be in????

  11. Speaking of attitude, does Lint Picker still come to the blog. I know I am not a regular poster, but I do check in regularly and haven’t seen him around. His posts always had a great cantankerous attitude, and I always wondered how someone like him could keep living in No.California. Did he mention health issues?

    I don’t know why, but when I read this article I thought of him. First, maybe I should state I don’t in the slightest believe this is him, and also I hope it’s not too cheeky or disrespectful to even post such a message, especially when I know all of us are concerned with and try to respect privacy.

    Here’s the article:

    The internet is a weird thing, you read some one’s posts daily for a few months and you feel like you get to know them even though you might never have a conversation, or any exchanges at all.

    Well too bad I don’t drink anymore, that would have made a good excuse for posting such an odd submission.

    • MikeM,
      The last I knew, Lint was talking about doing some traveling and looking for some land, perhaps outside of the Peoples Republic of CA, and then he basically announced that he was leaving the forum. Don’t know all of the details or if he even reads these posts anymore, but wherever he is, I hope he is well and prospering.

    • village idiot says:

      Mike, this person was in no way Lintpicker. As OP mentioned, Lint was older than this person, and furthermore, Lint kept in close touch with many in his family, had friends he interacted with regularly, and was not like the person in this story in any way I can tell.

      Lint was concerned about privacy issues, and that is why he left this blog. He has been quietly searching for a small homestead in Nevada or Oregon for the past several months, and he may in fact not even live in California any more. I can tell you that I miss him here, and wish he would return.

      I keep hoping and praying that one day I’ll log on and will see a post from him something like this, “I’m back!”.

      • worrisome says:

        VI that was my take on Lint as well. Older, wiser, interactive with friends and neighbors, agreed he was looking for someplace out of California due to taxes; politics; and a better survival environment, with what appeared to be a good grasp on what a retreat needed to be somewhat self sustaining. Hope he found it and I also miss his breadcrumbs of wisdom amongst his wisecracks.

  12. wheelsee says:

    As Pops used to say, “It is your attitude, NOT your aptitude, that will determine your altitude.”

  13. Heartland Cindy says:

    Terrific advice Survivor Dan. Since I retain information well by use of mnemonics, your article “inspired” me to write a simple mnemonic poem to keep your points about leadership in mind during times of crisis.

    The Right Stuff

    Sum it up,
    Break it down.
    Dig in,
    Look around.
    Stay tough,
    and Inspire!

    Thanks again, Survivor Dan!

  14. Wont go into it but , long story short , my ex wife went off the deep end of mental illness , what kept me going through the crisis was all mental . I was in total charge of this persons welfare and existence , that will tend to sober you up real fast , and force you to stay calm , be decisive , become the rock and any other immovable object you can think of . You have no choice , so you just do it ………………its amazing what people can do when they have to . Good post . Like a knights code of chivalry ” give hope to those that have none “

    • SurvivorDan says:

      Like the rest of us TR…your trials tempered your spirit. Made you stronger. God bless you and the ex.

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