Happy Campers Guide for Getting Away for a Few Days…

my family survival Happy Campers Guide for Getting Away for a Few Days...

This is an entry in our current non-fiction writing contest by Happy Camper.

Camping tips…

This is my master list for camping that I would like to share with the Wolf pack, I am convinced that this is an evolving list, it will never be perfect because the people we camp with and the places we go will always be different.  I would like to know what you would do differently to what I have in my list.

I have refined my camp requirements to:

  • 3 x 50L tubs, Food, Utilities and Power.
  • Cooler box (Techni Ice 135L icebox).
  • A few chairs.
  • A step ladder.
  • Bag of assorted ropes and camp tools.
  • Tent when my children camp with me.
  • My own bedroll, bedding and water drum is permanently in my vehicle.

I aim for the 15/15/15/15 rule.  That is 15 minutes to pack, 15 minutes to set up camp, 15 minutes to pull down camp and 15 minutes to unpack the vehicle.  Anything past this time frame and things become a chore.

This is the routine that I aim to stick to, when going camping.  And below it is noted the ‘Camping Master Lists’ that are the specific items that I have in each tub if you are interested in the particular item lists.

ROUTINE FOR GOING OUT BUSH:

Notify a third party that where you are going, who is going and when you will be returning.

Check on weather and tidal conditions.

Ensure that your arrival will be in suitable lighting conditions.

Check and pack all prepared items.  Aim to stick with the 15 minute rule.

Check stocks of medication and water. Ensure these items will not get damaged from travelling.

Purchase fresh food, ice and fuel vehicle.

When arriving at your destination, check communication availability, check overhanging trees, all persons to apply insect control, start camp fire and then get site set up.

Have site set up before dark including lighting and solar requirements.

ROUTINE FOR PACKING UP FOR HOME:

All tents, tarps, sleeping items, ropes etc must be cleaned of debris and folded.

Food and utensils stored in plastic tubs are to be reassembled (these are to go into the kitchen for cleaning, sorting and restocking upon arriving home)

Pack items as to how they need to be removed from the vehicle when you get home, so the last item that you pack into the vehicle will be the first out.

Bag rubbish / recycling separately to be dropped off at a rubbish point on the way home, or put into rubbish / recycling bins when arriving home.

On the way home wash car at the car wash, generally only the outside of the vehicle can be cleaned as the inside will be full.  Refuel the vehicle if you need to.

When getting home, everyone needs to pitch in before tending to their personal requirements; this is where the term ‘many hands make light work’ comes into play.

All items are to be tended to as needed, including item cleaning, repairs, packing away. Finally vacuum the vehicle.  Have a shower, coffee and plan next adventure. J

CAMPING MASTER LISTS

FOOD TUB: Coffee, tea, flour, sugar, milk powder, salt, pepper, gravy, sauce, plain noodles, ramen noodles, cheese sauce powder, rice, canned foods, cereals, custard powder, peanut butter, vegemite, jam, powdered energy drinks, dry dog food, matches, cooking oil, basic first aid kit, pain meds, antihistamines,  sanitary and cleaning items, toilet paper, baby wipes, insect control, cash for sundry items and fees. Recipes for camp food- to be in another article.  Everything to be individually vacuum sealed.  All of these items are stored in a 50L water proof clip lock plastic tub.

UTILITY TUB: Cooking equipment including, tongs, egg flip, cutlery, two cast iron skillets, two pots- one is only to be used for boiling water (my personal sanity revolves around the availability of fresh coffee), dishwashing soap and cloth, sharp knife x2, army knife, can opener- old style, fire starting gear, extra matches, extra batteries (& steel wool) , cordage, screw driver, pliers, small axe, insect control, stove & butane cans and fire starting preps, each person is allocated and must maintain their own mess kit.   One butane can per meal, extra fire lighters. All of these items are stored in a 50L waterproof clip lock plastic tub.

POWER TUB: Lighting equipment, battery packs, solar panels, utility chargers and torches.  Spare torches.  Allow a minimum of one torch per person and one lantern per area, keep track of the items as they will be mobile.  Torches abscond from camp sites.

As a general rule, I have a 9v USB solar charger for each of my ipad and iphone, also I have a solar battery bank that doubles as a USB power pack and I can charge my own lantern and torch off this,  I keep these for me only, not to be used by anyone else’s hands except mine.

In my camp vehicle I made a conscious decision not to add solar panels to the roof for power within the vehicle, as a weighted decision against adding an additional battery (with isolation switch) that would be charged by the motor anyway.  Either way having a large solar panel or an additional battery I would need to purchase an inverter.  It was more beneficial to invest in a better quality inverter in my opinion.

COOL BOX: This is one of the last items to be packed, for fresh food storage, the correct way to maintain a cool temperature for a maximum period of time is to decrease the ambient temp before adding food and ice, Tip: I generally purchase fresh food and ice when heading out of town, I go to the supermarket and buy fresh items, then stop by the service station to fuel the car and buy ice.
WATER DRUM: minimum 5L per person per day, allow 10L minimum in summer.

CHAIR: for each person.  Folding step ladder for additional seating or as a side table.

TABLE: optional, I generally omit a table due to the space they take in the vehicle.

FIRST AID: Check each first aid kit before each trip, first aid kits to be located in food tub and each vehicle, several portable kits for walking / hiking trips.  Personal medication requirements at double the anticipated amounts.   Communication facilities for emergency to be in place at all times, the Australian bush has an abundance of things that like to bite.  All first aid kits to contain extra matches.

SHELTER & BEDDING: Vehicle, tents to requirements and bedding to requirements.

Tools: Hammer, axe, basic vehicle tools, additional sharp knives, scissors, army knife, matches.

TIPS: 

Use the light and dark to your advantage,  Early morning: solar items to go on charge, clean up camp site mess (manners are important), check and pack stocks, tidy out tents, check food and water for insects, animal nibbles and spoilage.

Before dark: Finalize evening meal, have the fire going, prepare evening activities, hang wet clothes to dry, insect control, check fire wood stock.  Kids to prepare own entertainment in tents, check lighting for the evening.
Each person gets allocated named items that they need to look after: Cup, plate, utensils, torch, bedding.  “Sorry kids if you lose it, its gone”

Above all, have a great time and be safe.

**Important note: I would like to add that I went camping last week, off grid, alone.  I did not take my utilities or power tub with me.  This has got me to thinking that it may be wiser to have each tub as a combination of food, utilities and power, rather than having everything separate.  What are your thoughts on this?

Prizes for this round (ends August 11 2014) in our non fiction writing contest include…

  1. First place winner will receive –  A $150 gift certificate for Fiocchi Ammo courtesy of LuckyGunner, and a Wonder Junior Deluxe grain mill courtesy of Kitchen Neads.
  2. Second place winner will receive – 15 Live Fire Original – Emergency Fire Starters courtesy of LPC Survival and a Survival Puck  courtesy of Innovation Industries.
  3. Third place winner will receive – a copy of my book ”31 Days to Survival: A Complete Plan for Emergency Preparedness“ and “Dirt Cheap Survival Retreat” courtesy of  TheSurvivalistBlog.net and copy of “The Survival Medicine Handbook” courtesy of www.doomandbloom.net.

Comments

  1. I carry camping gear in my car 365, 24/7.

    Just having come back from camping this weekend, we had to pitch our tents in the dark and I carry a small flashlight on a key chain. I can just wear this (clipped) on my shirt and have illumination to pitch my tent by, but the batteries were going so it kept blinking out and I kept having to whack it to get it back on. Anyway, having a small flashlight that you can wear so it points downward is a big help. (or a head lamp).

    The group I was with lingered way too long over dinner elsewhere and burned up all the daylight. You can’t always control this but I suppose I could have also slept in my car and not bothered with a tent. But my car is very small. I will be looking at vans in the near future so I can vandwell/stealth camp in style.

    Have first aid stuff with you and check it regularly to make sure you have everything you need. We had a camper faint and hit her head. We were lucky the cell phone had service and that we had some first aid stuff. She went to the ER but was basically ok and came back later that night.

    Watch out for bureaucrats at the hospital. They are trying to take our guns on any flimsy excuse, don’t give them any.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Hi Penny Pincher, thanks for the tip on the flashlight (well I will call mine a torch lol), in my opinion one can never have too many torches. I also have bought a solo fuel stove since my last camp trip and im looking forward to using it this weekend. I agree that keeping the first aid supplies safe and checked is essential. Some of my people have a love of putting a bandaid on everything, so they can quickly disapear. Once on a camp in the National Park, my daughter who is a type 1 diabetic had too much insulin, we knew she was going to hypo, after loading her up with sugar I had to get back to a main road in case I needed an ambulance. Everything ended up fine but safety first.

  2. Tactical G-Ma says:

    This is a really good list. Maybe I missed it but I didn’t see a shovel for latrine or porta potty. Or an outdoor shower. If on the lake or river can always bathe there. I like maintaining a “leave behind nothing” but a buried latrine that doesn’t contaminate local waters is ok in a sparsely populated area.

    • rjarena says:

      I have been at “leave nothing behind” sites, and I find it rather silly, to be honest. I can understand carrying out trash, that is not able to break down if buried, but to carry out human waste is mind boggling. It follows the notion that humans are not part of the earth, and do not belong. What difference is my poop from a bear? We eat just about the same stuff, grains, fruit,meat. and we have the good sense to bury it.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        rjarena
        Increased nitrates as a result of human waste can contaminate water supplies, and cause good stuff to die and bad stuff to grow. Some eco systems would be greatly disturbed because so many people visit, i.e.,the Grand Canyon.

        • GoneWithTheWind says:

          You are buying into the far left version of the environment. You would literally need tons and tons of poop to get enough nitrates to do any harm and even then the “harm” (if there really is any) is limited to the few square yards where the concentrates are. In fact distance is your friend as it dilutes so fast it has no effect a few dozen yards away. Obviously you don’t poop in or very near water and there is in fact a correct way to poop in the woods. But the simple truth is that the “leave nothing behind” meme is overkill intended to make you hate humans just like the crazy left hates humans.
          Imagine if you will, the terrible devastation 100 million buffalo did over the thousands of years they roamed the west. All those nitrates and destruction. And yet somehow that was OK but don’t you dare go behind a tree and relieve yourself. Give me a break.

          • Happy Camper says:

            I usually camp where there are composting toilets. As gross as they are, especially the morning after a few bevvys…. But they are generally a bit of a walk away, sometimes nature is a better option. But the problem ive found is other peoples gross habits in leaving toilet paper not buried. WHY WHY WHY !! *throws hands in the air.

            • Tactical G-Ma says:

              I really enjoy going to parks and forests where it seems like no one else has been there for ages. Who wants to deal with someone else’s garbage and especially their waste?

              • went to the much lauded applachian trail once. got back in the car.
                thousands of beer cans and the latrine odor was overpowering.

                • I spent a week hiking there in the late 1960’s and it was great; not as many people in the country or as many looking for the outdoors. In the early and mid 1970’s I was an avid rock climber and had places that a small number of climbers would go on the weekends. We knew the park rangers and pretty much could climb anywhere we wanted, since they knew we took care of the environs. By the late 70’s and early 80’s, so many people had discovered the sport, and most of the good climbing areas were now off limits. Once anything, be it an outdoor sport, or a dog breed, becomes popular, the unwashed masses take it up with more gusto than ethics, and often ruin it.

          • Tactical G-Ma says:

            GWTW
            Is your attack against me or the science? Cubbies, if wanting to enjoy pristine wilderness and protect the indigenous flora and fauna is far leftist wacko thinking, then that’s me. I think it’s stupid to prevent people from using the resources of the Earth. God gave it to us to care for and use. But that means we should do as little harm as possible while enjoying the gifts.

            • I am not attacking you, only the concept that i can not safely defecate in a whole in the ground. This idea that wilderness is pristine baffles me. the Grande Canyon is a perfect example.Lots people (including myself) have hiked though it, marveling at the canyon, but it is not natural since the dam was built, and if the dam had not been built, many would never had seen the wonder of the rive in the first place, since the water levels were very inconsistent in the “natural state” before the dam.
              I don’t want to get into a fight on this sight, that is not the intention, surviving the troubles ahead is what we are striving at, but a lot of the trouble we have in this world comes from a gooberment that believes we are too stupid to make our own decisions, that those who know better must make them for us, and one of their biggest lies is that humans are evil, that “nature” must be preserved at all costs. It goes had in hand with the notion that burning wood, coal and other fossil fuels is evil, that we have to pay more for the electricity we are dependent on them for.

              • Tactical G-Ma says:

                RJ
                I was referring to Gone with the Wind’s comment about nitrates. If there were 10 Bison confined to 1 acre 100 feet from a river, down river would be effected. A golf course next to a river effects down river. Down river may be drinking water for some. Botanicals, fish, and waterlife need a healthy environment. If you live in the U.S., try visiting Naples, Italy. Trash everywhere you look. Don’t get me wrong, I love southern Italy and have camped along the Med. But that city and area was a real culture shock for me. It was 30 years ago, so it may have changed.
                There must be balance.

                • This relates to one of the interesting programs the Federal government does that actually works. I live in farm country and often hear complaints from the ignorant, mostly idealistic city dwellers about paying farmers for not planting. There is a good reason for this. Certain areas of fields studied and designated as conservation reserve areas, that are generally strips of land along waterways and streams that are not cultivated; although the farmer is not paid to plant nothing. These strips of land are generally planted with prairie grass species around here, or other suitable species in other habitats. These buffer zones provide a place to stop erosion and catch any chemicals to allow them to biodegrade in the sun and weather. Simply forcing the landowners to not plant crops with no payment would legally be a “taking” under the constitution, so it’s good to see the government follows the law, in at least one area. Not only does this protect the environment, it also lowers the cost of water treatment for cities downstream of the fields, so in the end, the small cost benefits everyone. BTW, these payments do not totally make up for the lost production, but are a compromise that seems to work for everyone.

              • rjarena,
                When you state, “that we have to pay more for the electricity we are dependent on them for” I completely agree. When these selfish SOB’s volunteer to go completely off grid, then they will at least have a little credence.

            • Encourager says:

              Sigh…TGM, he was gone for soooo long and it was soooooooooo pleasant.

            • Leave nothing behind is to Latino Littering & Plastic Bag bans as E coli outbreaks are to illegals harvesting food with no hygiene.

      • Uncle Frank says:

        RJ, the problem with human waste is what is in it. Our food is so full of preservatives it takes many many months to fully decompose. Put enough people in a small area and this becomes an issue even if they are burying it.

  3. Camper,
    Pretty good list and I like lists, since they force one to evaluate capability vs. capacity (i.e., size & weight).
    Here in the US though I would add some sort of firearm, concealed if allowed. I would replace the torches with flashlights (LOL) and I’d lose the vegemite, and yes I do know what it is, a very acquired taste.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Lol! Vegemite is something that is standard food here, it’s so good on pasta with a little cheese. The secret to Vegemite is to use a tiny tiny amount, most newbies to the food use it like jam or peanut butter and make it really thick.
      The gun culture is very different here. My father owned a handgun in the 80s but it was kept at the firing range, a friend of mine had a paintball gun which he surrendered when he moved as it had to be kept at the paintball place or he needed to buy an approved gun safe and he needed a firearm licence for it. But in saying this, the current stastic is 250,000 unregistered firearms in Australia, there are shootings a few times a week that make the news here, mostly in Western Sydney.
      We have a compound bow in our garage, I’d love to learn how to shoot it. The only edible animals about to make use of are kangaroos which are plentiful but it’s illegal to hunt them (and very frowned upon).
      I use to do volunteer work between 2004-2010 in native animal rescue and rehab, we would have to get the Police in to shoot the Kangaroos that were hit by cars (impossible to treat a kangaroo with broken bones)
      But thanks for the reply :)

      • Are the police armed or is it like the UK where the demographic that commits crime is more likely to have a gun than a cop?

  4. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    You sound like you got your trips organized and ready to go at a moment’s notice – great job! One item to add for additional seating – a couple of hammocks, if you have tying locations for them. Surprisingly comfortable, you can find yourself dozing off in fact if the surroundings are peaceful enough.

    Coffee filters – multi-use item. Great for dry food ‘snacks’, food covers from flying pests fire starter material, even emergency TP – lots of uses for them.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Thanks J.R. That a great idea about the hammocks, I’m going camping this weekend so I will try it out. In the warmer months I like to sleep outside or leave the doors to my wagon open, a few times at one particular camp ground I had huge goannas around me, they come in to take food, but as I had dirty hands I had one on each side licking my hands. They are quiet timid and when I woke up (and went argh) they ran off.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Hap
        Those goannas would have been feeding on carrion because I would have awakened, had a stroke, and died! Now I’m gonna have nightmares of big frackin lizards tonight! :-)

      • Encourager says:

        Ummm….WHAT is a goanna?? If I woke up and found one or two licking me, I would be in the top of the tree…

        • Happy Camper says:

          Haha, have a look online, their correct name is ‘Lace Monitor’. They are very curious creatures without a lot of intelligence so they tend to get their large bodies stuck in and under things whilst stealing their meals of eggs, birds, dead things, campers food…

          • Encourager says:

            ACK! Can be up to 6 feet long, 44 pounds…licking my fingers?! Forget it – no sleeping in a hammock for me! At least not in Australia…

            My son has learned to string his hammock 20 feet in the air; it has a mosquito net and cover attached so he won’t fall out if he forgets and turns over in the night. His problem is black bears and wolves at night.

  5. pb4emjr says:

    This a great list. The family and I just returned from a week of camping and did not come close to 15 minutes of anything. I see we have a lot to work on. Thanks for taking time to put this together.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Hi pb4, yes it easily becomes a chore if it gets too hard. That’s why I have everything pre packed, buy food and ice when your driving out and wash the car, fuel the car and get the clothes washer started before anyone steps foot in the house. I don’t let anyone shower or have coffee until everything is done, a little motivation when your dirty and smelly goes a long way !

  6. I always pack 2 fold up tables 1-8′ and 1-6′. They fold to about 2 inches deep. I agree with Tactical G-Maw, and I like the idea of keeping all the food, utilities and power separate. I also freeze a couple of 1 gal. water jugs to have in the cooler to keep food cool and can use it after it thaws…or…ice down first, then add a baking rack over it to keep dry foods separate from the ice.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Hi Oldog, the baking rack is a great idea. I’m going to employ that. I use to freeze the 2lt milk bottles but I’ve decided since that I’d rather buy the ice when I get food to speed things up.
      The problem I had when I went on my last camp was by not taking all the tubs, I had a lack of supplies. So I’m thinking by having a mixture in each it would maybe get around that. But then again it might also require triple of everything and more tubs !

    • AZ Camper says:

      I love the baking rack idea…thanks!

    • AZ Camper says:

      We do the water jugs in the cooler too…love the baking rack idea! Thanks! We have found that we are able to make a cooler keep foods frozen for a full week when we pack dry ice in the cooler. Line inside with newspapers, cover the dry ice with papers…my husband packed this, so google it to be sure exactly how to do it safely, but boy did it keep food cold for a long time! We also wrapped one of those silver insulation mats around the outside of the cooler to reflect the sun and kept it in the shade.

  7. Mother Earth says:

    I just got home from a primitive camping trip. I also have 3 tubs broken down like the above as it’s easier to find things, a camping stove/oven. I would add shovel to dig potty pit,solar lights, trash bags, solar hot water shower. I do take paper plates, bowls and cups and burn them in the camp fire. I’m able to do what I want as it’s our property.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Hi Mother Earth, it sounds like you live in a great place and loads of great camps !

    • Encourager says:

      Yep, gotta have a shovel! Actually, two. One long, narrow one to dig a potty hole, and a folding camping shovel to put out the campfire before you leave.

      And the clip-on lights for a hat or that fit around your head keeps your hands free and points wherever you look.

    • AZ Camper says:

      One of our favorite ways to cook food for camping trips is to make the pot of stew or chili at home, ziplock bag it up, freeze it, put it in cooler. You could even dividemitmintomportions and put in smaller bags. At camp, after we have a good campfire going, we spoon the prepared chili or whatever into paper bowls. We then cover the paper bowls with heavy foil, then place the individual bowls on top of the coals to warm. After eating, we just toss the bowls and plastic spoons into the trash bag. No dirty dishes to wash!

  8. patientmomma says:

    When my husband was alive we did the camping routine. We had a similar system but I put all things related to tent, sleeping bags, ground covers, etc in a large trash can with a cover. The cooking and lighting supplies in another large trash can with cover. The first aid and dry food went in to plastic totes and cold stuff in the cooler. Each person had a backpack with his/her personal items. Everything went in the back of the truck and off we went. As long as I stayed organized, we made the -15 minutes rules. I could not do that by myself now; it takes team work!

    • Happy Camper says:

      Momma, you sound like we think alike haha. But im loving your idea of the garbage cans. Im always on the look out for containers, im a little OCD about them, storage ideas and containers are great !
      My kids know not to buy me a pretty fragrance for my birthday but rather a nice storage box.
      Im firm on the view that camping is about team work, everyone needs to carry their own weight, its about making the time enjoyable and a life skill.

  9. mom of three says:

    Great article lots of good idea’s to use. The last time we took our VW Camper out it was a day trip to the beach. I ended up cleaning out the van, I got rid of about 30 lbs of extra stuff, and broken van part’s. So now our next trip will be better, organization is key.

  10. Curley Bull says:

    VERY GOOD article and after reading the comments thus far, that’s about all I can say when it’s all pretty much been said.

  11. Curley Bull says:

    PS: I should have mentioned that your system is very much like mine. The 15 minute load can only be done with much more pre-load packing time.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Hi Curley, I keep it done as I go about day to day tasks and general grocery shopping so the preps just slip in to life. But some campers just complicate their methods so much.

  12. Thisall H says:

    Great write Up Happy Camper.

    I’d love to beat the 15/15 rule but that would mean that I’d have to stop the DW from talking to all and Sundry and give me more than a token hand when ever I’m making camp or Packing up :-)

    I Like you Idea of Item in different box’s, I’d stick with that otherwise it will get confusing, or you’ll end up will a silly amount of redundancy. Just double check when loading.

    personally I cannot use it as when we camp we are on Motorbikes so are limited to what we can carry.

    I’d Like to learn more about you Solar charging kit that you take, as I’ve been looking into this myself lately. But you might want save that for another write up.

    • Happy Camper says:

      I’d be interested to know what you pack and your methods for motorbike camping.

      • Thisall H says:

        Most or our Camping is bike rallying I.E meet up with Like Minded Biker at some site and Party till we fall over.

        So packing consists of Sleeping bag in one pannier, wash kit, change of clothes, gas stove, brew kit and emergency JD in the other, tent tied to the rear seat of one bike, Kip mats and camp stools on the other.

        Food is normally found at sites, Locally or the nearest Pub.
        we’ve done this all year round from just going locally 10 miles down the road for the week end too spending a week or more touring Europe, that just mean you have two changes of underwear :-)

  13. Encourager says:

    Ooooo!!! I LOVE organized stuff! Way to go, Happy! I always get a kick out of the campers that take a couple hours to set up camp – gotta get all the kids bikes unloaded; then the rug down and the chairs set up; unload all the coolers; get out the beer; make at least 4 trips to the toilet/shower area with 4 different kids; set up the screen tent and move the picnic table into it; hang the clothesline; meanwhile, the kids are out riding their bikes, complaining they are hungry, teasing the 3 dogs that came camping, falling off the bikes and getting hurt (add screaming at the top of their lungs and blood). Oh, and let’s not forget setting up the TV to watch the game/movie/news.

    We have a trailer and we pack in such a way that we can set up, hook up, put out the awning and chairs and have supper going in under 15 minutes. Because we have a frig, I cook most of the meals ahead of time and freeze them. That way I am not spending all my time cooking…and can go kayaking, hiking, or just taking a nap.

    • JP in MT says:

      Since we only get to use ours 3-4 times a year, our is not quite as organized as I’d like it. That being said when we go, I usually go out on Tuesday and everybody else gets there Thursday or Friday after work.

      By them I’m set up, gear out, fire set, and ready for visitors & DW to show. I usually get caught up on my reading too (last time I finished 3 books before everybody else got there).

      We are currently measuring the space we have because I want to cover the front shelf with clear tubs labeled with what’s in them and ready to just be set outside. Where we go it’s easier and we don’t have a theft problem, so those are not issues. If they are in tubs, the rain won’t be an issue either.

    • Happy Camper says:

      You forgot to add how fun it is to sit with your feet up by a crackling fire with cold drink in hand, warm sun on your back. But what’s that noise ? Oh it’s the husband and wife over yonder having a major blue after two hours of trying to put their three room, vestibule, 12 man tent up….

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Hap
        Goannas, neighbor blues, and paralyzing ticks. And the bush is fun why?

        • Tactical G-Ma,
          As I understand it a book with photos and descriptions of the safe animals of OZ would be smaller than the one with the dangerous ones, LOL.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Haha?!?

        • Happy Camper says:

          And we haven’t even started on Cassowaries or the Irukandge. Oh and always look under the toilet seat for red backs and funnel webs love to get in your shoes. Funnel webs can survive underwater too, they like swimming pools.
          Come to Australia for an adventure, it’s great !!

          • Tactical G-Ma says:

            Hap
            I saw a documentary on funnel webs. We have wolf spiders that we have to fish from the pool and crawl every where at night but they aren’t deadly. I deal with my own deadly critters. I’ll just admire yours from a distance. Easter we camped where cotton-mouth water moccasins crawled all over the place at night. From dusk til dawn if outside I had a flaslight in one hand and a machete in another. I have a healthy respect for God’s creatures great and small.

  14. Is anyone else having trouble commenting to this post? I did a long one when it came out, it never appeared (usually it appears so I can read it, saying Waiting for Moderation)

    Nothing at all. I just tried rewriting the comment from scratch, posted again, and again, nothing. Zero.

    • I just tried again by pasting it into an email form, saving it, copying it, and posting as a comment to this 7:00 PM comment. Nothing.

      Any ideas?

      • does your computer need to ‘defrag’? ask a kid to help you. i can’t do computing by myself.

        • I don’t think it needs defragging. It may have to do with the partial camping list which I included which was written in Google docs, which I copied and included, but I have zero idea if Google docs isn’t the issue, and zero idea why it would have been a problem after I plugged it into an AOL email, saved it, copied it, and pasted it into the comment form.

          Color me clueless. I am sure that plenty others have.

          Anyway, if everyone simply accepts that it was a mindshatteringly brilliant contribution now lost to the ages, like the Library of Alexandria, I will be satisfied.

          Unless it shows up 27 times tomorrow…..

          • Penrod,
            Although I’ve not had your posting problem, this new format keeps sending the page clear to the bottom every time I do anything. It’s more likely an HTML or scripting issue in this new format, which I personally find hard to use.
            As for Google docs or anything else, the comment box is straight text and would lose any noxious formatting parameters. I routinely use MS Word to compose, spell check, etc. and no matter the font size, types, etc. it always pastes fine as straight comment text, although I sometimes blow the HTML tags all on my own.
            This post for instance was composed in MS Word and pasted to the comment box.

            • Hi Ohio Prepper. It does seem weird tho that the only comment which refuses to go through is the one which includes cut and paste from Google docs, even if via an AOL email the second time.

              The first time it happened I thought I had missed the “Post Comment” button, so I tried posting it again and got the little screen saying something like “It looks like you already posted this!” So the software recognizes that I posted a comment, but it doesn’t show up.

              As with the Library at Alexandria, and the Aztec Codices, another Cultural Treasure is lost to the Ages. I expect Bill Shakespeare had his off days too. And when the sun goes nova we’ll have other things on our minds.

  15. D in MN says:

    My camping supply includes tick and mosquito spray, flying insect fogger for the tent/camper. Check for ticks before it gets dark. This wet weather is perfect for these blood sucking critters, and I have gotten 3 ticks every day I work at the campgrounds or go out in my yard.

    Deer ticks need about 40 -48 hours to inject Lyme disease when attached that long. Learn to identify the culprit over other ticks. I was told if one was attached about 30 to 40 hours or you don’t know how long, remove it and take 200 mg of doxycycline just in case. Not all deer ticks carry lyme disease, but I have done this as a precaution.

    • Happy Camper says:

      Lucky you working in a camp ground ! Do you have any tips ? Great info in the ticks, most often the smallest beasties are the worst. Ticks in Australia thankfully don’t carry Lymes disease but they can paralyse you.