Children: Treat Them Well, Teach Them Well

This is a guest post and entry in our non-fiction writing contest  by Libby

As a woman who grew up with the mindset of a survivalist in a survivalist style and extremely well prepared home, I am forever trying to learn more than I know (and trust me, I do not know half of what I should, but I try to learn something every day!) so when time allows I scan and read a multitude of articles about what can, and should, be done when TSHTF.

And this is a good thing as the information available nowadays is easy to come by, but the one thing I have noticed that is sadly missing, and almost totally lacking, is the attention paid to the continuing education of our young ones. Everyone writes about bugging out and what to do, and how to prep, what but no one says anything about education. Sure, the children need to know survival skills, but they also need to continue their basic education to go with that.

Now, folks, this ol’ Granny knows there is much to do to get your “house in order,” so to speak, in hopes of being prepared for when TSHTF, which I firmly believe IS going to happen in the not-too-distant future, but have you really given thought to your children’s continued education? They ARE our future!  Think about it.

Do you have a good supply of just the basics – lots of school paper, pencils, crayons for the small fry, rulers, pens, and so on. Also, have you picked up any of the various school work books, school books, and the likes available from most bookstores and online sources?

Do you go or have you gone to your school at the end of a school year when most schools ‘donate’ or give away old or worn school books  – and not a thing wrong with these, either!?  Do you have lots of reading materials for all ages in your family, yourself included? Anything is good – magazines, novels -age appropriate-, clipped out news articles that would be of interest to the different age groups in your family, printed out articles or short stories that would interest you, your spouse, your children.

I have been collecting a steady and practical assortment of educational material, good school books, reading material (books including the “classics,” comic books, the Sunday comics, magazines, and any and everything a kid would enjoy reading), lesson plans, lots of various school supplies, and everything I can find to make sure the kids are, at the least, well educated at home, literate, well rounded, and well balanced, for when the worst does happen and it will no longer be safe for the kids to travel to school nor would it even be practical to send them. (Oh… games and small amusements, also! Most necessary when children are younger.. and older, too!)

And now there is enough excellent material in this particular “arsenal” for all of the kids to finish up with a decent high school education plus everything I can find to make continuing their schooling fun and with lots of hands-on projects so they will actually want to learn. (I now have the books and educational material to teach from Pre-K through high school and beyond and it did not cost a fortune to accumulate all of this, either!)

As you can probably surmise, I am part of a family group that works together for the greater good of our survival and we are not ‘bugging out‘ but are staying put in a well stocked, well fortified practical location and we are fortunate enough to have the space available for a “classroom” so it will almost be like they are continuing to go to their regular and structured school setting. My daughter and I will share the responsibility and the roll of “school teacher” and as the kids know this, they are always asking “When?” will they be able to go to school at home.

Being really anal about organization, I have worked out various schedules for the “school” and with all the other duties and work I (and my daughter) will have to do on a daily basis, I think if we share four hours per day and make a really conscious effort that the kids will receive as good an education, if not better, than attending regular school.

I shudder at the thought of all the folks out in the world who are just going to let their children run amok day in and day out when TSHTF, but we all know that some people will do nothing but raise little heathens who will more than likely have to jerk themselves up as best as they can.

And I am sure you can imagine this scenario yourself. And it will make no sense for it to be this way because someday, hopefully, the world should eventually calm down, people should come to their senses, and hopefully peace will prevail and humanity will be able to live in harmony. So please give a thought now as to how you will educate and teach your own children when it becomes necessary to do so.

Oh, this one “for instance” comes to mind as to how easy it is to incorporate “learning within learning.” Out for a “nature hike” last fall in the woods behind the house, my SIL had “The Ducks in a Row” – the three 11 year old boys – doing the daddy-son thing when one of the boys started hollering “C-O-P-P-E-R-H-E-A-D” as he was “whapping the crap” out of “a good snake!”  – See, easy? A lesson within a lesson.. they had learned to spell the various fauna and flora as they came across it, plus it was another lesson within a lesson… Be Prepared! And always have your walking stick with you in the woods!

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M.D. Creekmore is the owner and editor of TheSurvivalistBlog.net. He is the author of four prepper related books and is regarded as one of the nations top survival and emergency preparedness experts. Read more about him here.

Comments

  1. I have 2 grade school age grandchildren who are at my house 5 days a week. So most of their school supplies come from us. We have found that shopping the sales at the beginning of the school year can save us a lot for the rest of the year. I’m amazed at the prices during “Back to School” vs the rest of the year. And we buy enough that we rarely have to get more later.

  2. watersourcesolved says:

    I really enjoyed your article! It seems the issue with children these days, is they have no “street smarts”…it’s certainly not taught in schools..that’s for sure!

  3. Rich Muszynski says:

    Greetings. have to totally agree with you on the need to educate the children. but don’t forget the adults need to be educated as well. most of us adults have been educated in public schools, semi educated I should say. we have crammed into us all sorts of things that are not only wrong but criminally wrong. and you repeat a lie to someone often enough and they come to accept it as a truth. Good old German propaganda that our nation copies so well. which is one reason that we still celebrate the discovery of the new world by Christopher Columbus, even though he never set eye or foot on the new world. he only blundered on the islands in the Carribean and busily murdered the natives he came across. if one concentrated and taught children only true things that can actually be of use to them then you would truly educate them. forget teaching the mindless and useless facts that children are forced to memorize and teach them

    • 1984MSgt says:

      Muszynski- Your post is right on target. When I went through school graduating in 1964 we had skills worth something to an employer . . . .then they retrained us to the real world requirements.

      When you teach one must teach what, who, when,
      where and (the goal is to get the student to understand) why. If they know why then they can become self starters. Only the useful topics are retained. . . . all other “stuff” is dropped like a hot rock because it is useless.

      Public schools do not seem to be teaching subjects that are relevant to employment for 75% of the students. They teach topics for those going into college . . . .not for those going into the work force. Society will need plumbers, electricians, policemen, firemen, postal workers, store/merchandise clerks,
      truck drivers, heavy equipment operators and ware-housemen,
      and clerical support. I don’t see anything like that for the 75%
      of the students who do not go on to college.

      Now that is a shame. No wonder our public education system sucks.

      • Got some news for you… the public schools don’t teach what the kids need to know to succeed in college, either. The college I work at is considered pretty top rank… but almost without exception, incoming freshman are an unruly, disorganized lot who, without the remedial writing and organizational resources we force them to take as part of the required first-year curriculum (that really should have been taught in ‘public high school’), none of them would survive the crucible that is a 4-year degree. And depending on their major of choice and the amount of individual initiative of the student, it is perfectly possible that the kid with the newly-minted 4-year degree will be completely unemployable as well.
        Something needs to change with the way we educate our future leaders and citizens, and I really don’t think it is going to happen with the current overly-complicated and entrenched system. Too much potential is wasted, too many good years lost, too much time spent in classrooms where young people learn skills of dubious value that are poorly-matched with what will actually help them live more productive lives.
        And this is coming from somebody within the system.
        Cat

      • I think the education system reflects in some ways the societal attitudes where we think that everyone should get additional education after high school, as I do, but for some reason, nearly always think of this education as a 4 year college degree.

        I think that in some cases it’s the way we’ve coddled our children to the point that life is always fun, never hard, and in fact hard work should be avoided. This means that given the opportunity for a college education and the hopes of making good money sitting at a desk and pushing paper vs. learning a skilled trade (e.g., plumbing, carpentry, etc), many kids will take the route that they perceive as easy. I also see kids going to high end schools for degrees in subjects like elementary education. They would get essentially the same degree from the local branch of their state university at a fraction of the cost (and the inherent loans) and in both cases will get the same $35K/year job. This again IMHO is due in large part to parents coddling their children, instead of sitting them down and explaining the reality of high priced school preparing you for low wage jobs. If you’re going into medicine, pharmacy, engineering, and other areas where salaries are significantly higher then this might be justified, but I see too many cases of kids studying subjects that will have low salaries or perhaps even no job prospects (humanities, liberal arts, etc). I know of some master craftsman in the area (cabinet makers, masons, finish carpenters) who have been unable to find young folks willing to apprentice and learn the skilled trades which over time would serve them well, and are jobs not likely to be shipped overseas.

        My daughter attends a great school and was well prepared for her freshman year due mainly to her attitude and work ethic and our attention to her education to make sure she had the resources she needed. All I can say is that parents need to be involved in their children’s education, either through home schooling, or serious involvement in their lives if they attend public or parochial school. What may look like the hovering busybody to a child or teacher, will in the end serve your child well, and that is the ultimate outcome we all want.

        Sorry for the rant, but any of you who haven’t seen “Waiting for Superman” should get it and watch it, and then you may also start ranting.

        • Ok guys. I just put my money where my mouth is. Or at least my energy where my fingers hit the keyboard! Yesterday morning, in a routine staff meeting, the department chair of the school that I will be joining next year as a full-time faculty member proposed that we expand the program of college-level courses available to some of the local high schools not within walking distance of our college campus. We would do this by training willing high school teachers to teach our curriculum at their schools and give the kids college credit through our college with successful completion of the course. I convinced her to run a course that I helped develop that would give kids the kind of record-keeping and writing skills that are needed in the new, high-tech nanotech manufacturing facilities that are opening in our region in the next 2-3 years. Then spent the majority of this morning helping her draft an introductory proposal to be sent to the high school administrators and teachers that would be included in the program. Now, ball’s in their court. We’ll provide the training and curriculum, they provide the teachers and students to fill the seats.
          So our public education is poorly suited to the needs of the work force? It is time some of us did something about it.
          With a couple of college-level science classes (physics, chemistry, maybe some math), these kids will definitely be employable on the manufacturing floors of the soon-to-open chip plants. And the local community college has the remainder of the curriculum available to them quite reasonably. These inner-city kids will need jobs, and their families will most likely not have the resources to put them through four-year colleges. For the amount of training required, these manufacturing jobs will be quite high-paying.
          It’s gotta start somewhere.
          Cat

  4. David the new one says:

    Some posters have added good suggestions about acclimating children to prepping by making it fun activities. I remember one example where the started with just “camping” in the living room. Recently I was on a website to purchase a magnifier to help identify macro invertebrates. I went to: http://www.acornnaturalists.com/store/index.aspx. While browsing around, I found they have tons of stuff geared for malleable minds. (no matter what age) (No I don’t have stock in the company) There is way too much to list but they have stuff like bandanas with animal tracks and scat on them. (dual purpose) There are resources for young trackers such as a series of “who’s been here?” books. Bird and animal calls, outdoor education, activities, games, guides, discovery kits, etc. They cover topics such fish, insects, animals, gardens, plants, weather, astronomy, science, etc. If, children are used to being in the wild, and have become comfortable with what is out there, then, the transition to living in rural settings or even off the land will be much easier. If your bug out requires this form of escape. It seems common that many city dwellers speak of getting out the town. It is another contingency in the long list of “what if” scenarios. If not, it is still good knowledge for a well rounded education.

    • Boy Scouting ia another way to do that. Great program for “learning to make due” with what’s around you naturally. And to take care of our surroundings at the same time.

      • Encourager says:

        We were involved with Scouts for many years. I was the Badge person, my husband was an Assistant Scout Master. I have saved ALL the curriculum we obtained through the scouts and all the handbooks. They are full of great info/instructions. I love the cookbooks! My oldest son learned so much and he still uses it all when he backpacks in the wilderness. Unfortunately, our youngest son got cheated; his Scoutmaster quit and my Husband was working 60 hour weeks and could not give quality time to leading the scouts. So the troop disbanded.

        One of the best “trials” we ever set up was our emergency first aid one. We divided the troop into thirds. Each group took a different hike in the same State Park. We stationed accidents along each group’s path. We even used fake blood for realism. Just about every scout freaked out, but there was at least one in every group that said ‘guys, we’ve learned this, we can do this!’ Then they proceeded to help the ‘victim’. It was great! We all gathered together for a picnic lunch afterwards and discussed what had happened. I guarantee you that those boys still remember that hike even after 20 years!

    • For math and science I highly recommend the books by Janice VanCleave. A list of the m can be found here: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-103842.html

      • Encourager says:

        We loved the Saxon Math series, up to the Algebra. Then we switched to Math-U-See. You can go to any home school curriculum site and get a recommended list of reading materials broken down by age. Hated the Bob Jones Science books – the experiments were really lame and most did not work. Just a heads-up!

  5. I have been thinking about this very thing. We already homeschool. As I was preparing to “purge” our schoolbooks recently, I realized that maybe I shouldn’t be so hasty. The younger ones might need these later on. I also realized that I need to be making hard copies of online materials for times when electricity and computers are unavailable. CDs of curriculum won’t be nearly so money-saving without electricity to run the computer to use them. Eliminating unnecessary clutter and making the most of available storage space vs. collecting necessary items for the future is such a delicate balancing act.

    • Smart lady. An EMP – caused naturally or terrorist, would wipe out the availability of accessing electronic copies.

      Even a major pandemic could make electricity unavailable, as workers at the electric plants might just decide their lives, and the lives of their families are more important than keeping our electricity (and I kind of agree with them).

  6. This is something I probably have more than anything else of. I already have homeschooled our children several years each and love books–and have too many of them for my little-reading anti-clutter dh. These include vintage/antique popular science/mechanics magazine with hundreds of cool projects, and antique readers, which I just love, plus hundreds of books and current school books. I don’t know of schools that give away their books, should find out about that.

    I was immediately reminded of a made for TV movie/documentary I saw a couple of years ago about survival after a pandemic, and at the end in the “years later” scene the children were learning from encyclopedias (which you can’t even give away anymore, lol).

    Thanks for a great post.

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      If you see encyclopedias at garage sales or goodwill snap them up. Brittanica quit making them. They are going completely on-line with them now.

      • They just take up so much space! My son volunteered at a thrift shop and brought home a set that was going to go to recycling; it was in brand new condition but a little older I think.

    • Candy in Nebraska says:

      The school I worked for years ago, they threw out their books and most were never even opened. The school said in order to keep their budget money they had o show they bought books not sold. If books were sold it could lower their budget. If their budget was lowered they couldn’t get their sports money.

    • I don’t know about schools, but around here many libraries have yearly sales where they sell off duplicates and older or obsolete books for very inexpensive prices.

  7. Soggy Prepper says:

    Good plan Libby. Only don’t wait for the shtf to home school them!!!
    Pull them now and start that great education early!!!

    We home school. I never initially wanted to, but I have a special needs son and the school personnel didn’t know what the hell they were doing and after we took them to mediation (and some retaliatory action against the kids –my DH and I felt– we pulled them). It’s going on 5 years now.

    One of the most fulfilling/frustrating, easy/yet hard, satisfying things we’ve done as parents. You get to know the kids so well! I actually thoroughly enjoy my children and being around them, they are neat people.

    It kills me when parents start saying how awful their teens are, how the kids talk back and they can’t wait for school to start so they don’t have to deal with them. Breaks my heart!

    Pull them out of the indoctrination centers where kids teach kids undesirable behavior. Bring them Home where they Belong! Teach them and watch them become amazing little beings that love and respect their parents and family! It’s a beautiful thing!

    Four hours is plenty too! You will be Amazed at all you get done in that amount of focused time! Ebay and garage sales have great buys on lots of reading books too. We got 60 kids novels last year fro 25 bucks!

    Home schooling and prepping pretty much go together. I believe our Founding Fathers would agree!

    • Encourager says:

      Soggy Prepper I agree completely. I can kick myself for selling the majority of my home school materials/books in a garage sale. But the lady who bought it all wept as they were really struggling financially since she quit her job to home school their kids. I ended up giving her most of it.

      I loved how in the spring, with spring fever hitting not only my son but me, we would put on our rubber boots, grab a few butterfly nets and some jars and head out to the wetlands for a science day. We would come back muddy, wet and tired, and spend hours looking through a microscope at all we caught. We had a 4 hour school day, sometimes more, sometimes less. But that didn’t count reading time.

      I would put my son in front of a window for five minutes, tell him to look outside and write down 10 things he observed. I would then have him write a story about them, turning his observations into a spelling list, how to write a paper with a first, revised and final draft; and then for art he would make the cover. I still have those tucked away.

      It was the most rewarding, most frustrating job I ever had.

  8. Very interesting article, lots of great points. But I wonder if we are lucky enough to make it through these crazy times without anything real bad happening, (hopefully), won’t home schooling prevent our kids from learning to deal with life outside the home? Don’t get me wrong, there are lots of things I wish my son will never have to deal with, bullies, liars, cheaters, etc. But that’s all unfortunately part of life. That also teaches lessons. We all know it’s a nasty world out there. Good lick to us all!!!

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      I actually heard raising home schoolers explained once like gardening.
      Start the seeds in doors in the greenhouse. When they are big enough move them to a cold frame to start getting stronger for the elements in order to stand on there own. After that transplant to the garden. With such a great start those transplants tend to do better then those sown directly into the garden.

      Little ones learn and grow best at home with their loving family. As teens they have a firm foundation (education, beliefs, support system) and tools to deal with differing beliefs, opinions and views. Home schoolers tend to be around adults quite a bit and it shows generally their maturity and behavior. As teens they start out into the work force and are able to be “in” the world experiencing bullies, liars and cheats while still being able to count on family for advice. (Cold frame). Better advice from adults then their school chums who have limited life experience as well.

      When they go off to college, vocational school, move into their own place (the world or ‘garden’) they pretty much are secure in their beliefs enough to deal with whatever life throws their way.

      That may be an odd way to explain it, but I really related when it was explained to me in those terms.
      Home schoolers are not push overs, and aren’t taken advantage of more then non-home schoolers. They tend to have more social skills and tools to deal with people and situations because parents don’t want their kids taken unawares by the world.

      My oldest is confident and secure and will call people out on incorrect information if they try to slip stuff past her.
      My youngest has commented on same aged kids behavior in stores and restaurants before as being rude and disrespectful.

      At our home school co-op what struck me the most the first time we went was that the children, from little on up to teens, looked you in the eye! Answered when spoken to! (if they didn’t their parent or another would remind them to answer). It was amazing and refreshing.

      Of course all that I’ve written is simply my opinion and experience. The internet contains numerous statistics and studies on home schoolers you can check out. Most all are far more favorable for the out come of hs kids then public school.

      The statistics I found on welfare recipients in correlation to having been home schooled was fascinating. (hint…..like 1%! That’s an awesome number! I looked at about 5 studies.)
      ~long rant over~

      • Soggy Prepper, thank you for your response. I meant absolutely no disrespect by anything. I also am a big one for the basics, honesty, respect, and effort are my big ones. He has also grown to be very caring and kind. Thank God. Because I agree, if the basics are not there, then you have nothing. Home schooling is just something I know nothing about, and was just asking an opinion. May all our children grow to be great, strong, and wise adults. God bless.

        • Soggy Prepper says:

          Oh Gosh! No disrespect even thought of, or meant in your direction! I tend to be passionate about home schooling because it’s something I NEVER thought I would be doing or even wanted to do until the month before we did it!

          It’s something that has worked and worked very well for us in-spite of my shortcomings, mom guilt, misgivings and fumbling around on my own teaching learning curve. My kids are learning, happy, healthy and involved in church and the home school co-op (which this semester had over 80 families = over 200 people with parents!)

          I get excited over it because even with all our success with home schooling I still feel the need to justify doing it, even if it’s just to myself. Sounds weird I know, but… 😉

    • Encourager says:

      I heard that a lot, ParaB. It was usually phrased as “Don’t you think it is harmful for your child to be so sheltered? He won’t have any social skills or any social life!”

      My son was very involved in his youth group at church, he took violin lessons from a local symphony, was part of a youth symphony, worked in a store dealing with the public (oh the stories he came home with!!), was part of a group that worked in our state capitol with the Representatives, was enrolled in a community college during his high school years and went to college with 22 college credits; he actually was very well-rounded. Every college we checked out, when they found out he was home schooled, bent over backward to try and convince him to come there. So, other then him not learning to lie, cheat, do drugs, disrespect his elders, be a bully, blame everyone else for his attitude, problems, lack of funds, he did just fine!

  9. In late Summer, before school starts, Walmart has huge bins of school supplies at REALLY CHEAP prices. I’ve stocked up for a SHTF scenario, since I’m prepping for my kids and grandkids as well.

    I’m also trying to accumulate enough food for my close neighbors (even though they do not know I am prepping for them), and one of those is an elderly couple who are retired school teachers . The Native Americans had the right idea – I think in a small community situation, the elders should be the ones to teach the little ones, since that is a big part of the needs for a community, and they are also less likely to be able to do the heavy work that might be necessary – perfect solution in my mind.

  10. Home schooling is certainly the way to go. Unfortunately, Johnny can’t read his diploma around our part of the world. The school system just pushes the kids through for the tax dollars instead of educating them.

    I home schooled my daughter after shots were fired at her school bus on school property! At the end of what would have been her 7th grade year (and after only 5 months of home schooling), she tested (required here) at 11 grade/7th month level. What does that say about our public school system? She graduated from high school at 13. But we continued with advanced subjects for a couple more years.

    For example, it’s not at all difficult to turn rabbit or chicken raising into a great educational project. Either encompasses math, problem-solving skills, nutrition, bookkeeping, biology, anatomy, and teaches responsibility.

    Yes, home schooling does require discipline on the part of the teacher, as well as the student, and affiliating with other home school families may be necessary for social interaction, but it is so worth it! If you need guidance, there are “correspondence” schools that will cost a bit, but set out a curriculum that is well organized, includes materials, and is easy for almost anyone to follow.

    Getting yourself and the home schooled child involved with organizations like 4-H, scouts, softball, soccer, etc. can be a solid way to develop social skills and keep the home schooled child involved with age-appropriate peer groups.

    If your school system gives you any guff about home schooling, tell them that you’re home schooling for religious reasons. They’ll back right down!

    • judy,
      If you want to give your daughter (who’ has graduated early) a head start on college (if she intends going there), you might consider MIT’s Open Courseware. They have recorded videos of entire courses from their standard curriculum with the actual professors that are currently teaching the classes, doing the teaching on the videos. They have about every subject you can think of available from freshman through senior level courses. These are all free and you watch them from the privacy of your home.

      • And BTW, you don’t get college credit for these, but they should make taking the equivalent classes at another college go rather easy, or perhaps would allow proficiency testing in some subjects.

      • She’s nearly 30 now and has the college under her belt… as well as an advanced degree from the “school of hard knocks.”

        We’re beginner preppers and trying to get organized as it all seems a little overwhelming at first for two women (one widow and one divorcee) alone. We’ve started with a thorough inventory of what we already have and were pleasantly surprised to find that we are a good bit more prepared than we’d initially thought when it comes to hard goods/lighting – many candles and 8 oil lamps inherited from MIL (picked up extra wicks and oil)/heating (have to work on building up the wood supply though, end of winter here, so the woodpile is low now)/cooking supplies, reference books (have more on order!), and clothing/bedding/soft goods.

        Not at all prepared with weapons/ammo (one ancient .22 with a scope and a few boxes of shells – or is bullets the correct word?). What would be best for a couple of small women with little experience with firearms? Besides lessons!

        As for food and water, maybe a 2 month supply if we’re careful. This tops the to-do list. So the lists have begun in a fat 3 ring binder and a hard look at a limited budget!

        Did pack up some “space bags” – LOVE those things! – with basic clothing and bedding. Saves a lot of room and one large bag will hold a basic fall/winter wardrobe for one person. Another large bag holds plenty of bedding, towels, etc for one person. Going to work on the spring/summer clothing next. This project cost next to nothing by using what is on hand and making a trip to the local Goodwill and $ stores to fill in.

        This site has been an education – and a wake-up call! Thanks everyone!!

        • Judy,
          Bullets come out of the muzzle of the barrel of a rifle or handgun. Shells typically are used in a shotgun, with cartridges going into a rifle or handgun. The cartridge contains among other components, the gun powder and the bullet.

        • Rich Muszynski says:

          greetings. with ammo. cartridge is the correct term for the entire brass case and bullet. bullet is only the part that shoots out of the barrel when the weapon is fired. Shells usually refer to shotgun shells. but use any term you feel confident with and others will figure out what you mean. with your ,22, doesn’t matter much how old it is as long as it is in good, usable condition and one of you know how to use it. the .22 rim fire was about the first brass cartridge with a self contained primer in it, way back in the 19th century. so been around a good long time. still the best for small game. if you want a heavier, by that I mean one that can be used to take game like deer or people who it would be a requirement to shoot to survive. I would say I can think of nothing better for a small stature woman to use then a SKS carbine. these were the early Russian copy of the German assault rifles and have about the power of the popular .30/30 rifle round. about a million of them out in this country and the price is much more reasonable then anything else offered. most times you can find one for about $100. ammunition is cheap, much cheaper then near any other rifle ammo in the stores. it is a 7.62 X 39 m/m technically. and it is 30 caliber. the SKS is light weight and the recoil is very mild. has more then enough power to take down game the size of deer. and was originally designed as a weapon for use on the Eastern Front in WW 2. it is a 10 shot semi-auto, meaning it will fire one round with every pull of the trigger. and are noted for being pretty accurate. simple and easy to care for. very forgiving of not dedicating ones life to keeping them pristine. Russians design military firearms for use by untrained troops under extremely bad conditions. one thing I should mention that I have never seen a comment on in this blog. food is not a big concern to me, at least not for short time. i try to keep my weight about 20 pounds above what it should be. I have found that i can go for better then 30 days without food simply by using my stored body fat. 20 pounds on my body is not much since i am fairly large anyway. but 20 pounds of body fat is the equal of a heck of a lot more weight in food that would have to be carried in a pack or stored. and it means I can also survive with much less then normal with a ordinary diet, water. and if your injured far from any help the person with a few extra pounds on their frame has a better chance of survival then a underweight one.

          • Thanks for the clarification! We can both hit what we aim at with the trusty .22 and it’s kept in clean working order for dispatching small varmints. Have quite a skunk (4-legged variety) problem in the summer here.

            Will add more weapons and ammo to the many lists – very near the top. What’s your take on shotguns? I’m thinking maybe a couple of 20 gauge? I hear there’s not much “kick.”

  11. SurvivorDan says:

    Not a topic within prepping that I give much thought to. But it is an important one. I’ve thought that as I get to be a geezer I may spend some time, in the event of TEOTWAWKI, teaching youngsters woodcraft and other survival skills. I always thought that if I were too infirm I would have no function at all. Maybe not. Coming from a long line of educators maybe I can remain useful shaping mushy minds. I have a lot of books for my own reading……might come in handy one day. Good topic.

  12. Hi-
    Great post, Libby! Thank you for putting it together.
    Guess I should be ashamed of myself, but I never really gave this topic all that much thought. I have a few extra letters after my name – soon will have another set, too – and I guess I just thought I could teach them what I know. Also have my prepper family – my closest friends, a group of four families with between us 19 children from the ages of 1 thru 16. Each adult in the group has their own special set of knowledge and skills that can be passed on to the kids, from medicine, to culinary arts, to carpentry, to engineering, history, the hard sciences, farming, military training galore… you get my drift. It might be in all of the kids’ best interests if one of us were to act as an educational coordinator of sorts, and farm out different portions of the kids’ education to different adults in the group. I can teach the kids all the math in the world (at least through a few semesters of calculus, anyway), but don’t try and put me in a classroom and teach anyone world history! I’m afraid I may have dozed through a few too many of those particular classes to be able to do any good there. But there are several members of our group who would do this exceedingly well. Why not, instead of relying on a single member of your family to take on all of the educational responsibilities, to elect a single person to organize it the curriculum, and then have the adult most able to pass on that knowledge do the actual teaching? I suspect this might result in the kids having a more in-depth educational experience with the opportunity to learn their lessons from someone with more than just the minimum amount of knowledge on the subject gained by reading the textbook the night before the lesson is to be taught.
    This country will need strong, well-educated leaders to pull it back onto its feet after something bad enough to be considered a WTSHTF situation. All of the people here have the advantage of being forewarned that something really bad is coming… sooner rather than later. Our children have a better chance than most to come through such a situation well with us as parents. Why not make sure they get the best education they can get.
    I guess, though… having a bunch of preppers in our group with extra degrees won’t be much help without supplies! I will keep my eyes sharp and start filling up some of my shelves with things other than food and ammo!
    Man doesn’t live by bread alone…
    Nite All,
    Cat

    • Cat,
      I understand about the history. Although I’m pretty well grounded in it over the last 15 years, all through high school and college, if it wasn’t science or math related, then I had no interest. Looking back I now realize it was rather short sighted, but that is often the case with youth who don’t have enough guidance in some areas.
      er, copiers, and inkjet printers, and since it’s just plain unlined paper can be used for schooling, crafts, or any other thing you may need to do with paper. When the situation is right, this can be some of the bet quality and least expensive paper you can acquire, and now a days, much of it Is near archival quality, low acid paper, which means it will take much longer to turn brittle and yellow, which is another useful trait.

  13. Encourager says:

    Thank you, Libby, for a very important post!

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