A shotgun just for me…

This guest post is By Tactical G-Ma  and entry in our non-fiction writing contest .

For the past thirty + years my life consisted of 40 hours per week on the job and the remaining waking hours were dedicated to kids, housework, shopping, being wife and mommy, and making sure everyone else got what they needed. Don’t get me wrong, I loved being wife and mommy and all that went with it. But, the kids grew up and went on their ways and I retired and I felt like I knew nothing about living. What now? I cleaned, cared for DH, had the grandsons occasionally, took up oil and acrylic painting, read a zillion books, gardened, traveled, fished, golfed, life was good.

I’m not sure what woke me up. It probably wasn’t any one thing. But, in the spring of 2012, I realized the larder was nearly bare, the freezer had more bottles of ice than food, we couldn’t fit our Chihuahua into our tornado room (much less us), and our complacence had become a liability because we had had good weather, low crime, and lots of play time for the past few years.

DH was out of commission due to shoulder surgery and three new heart attacks he had from blood clots while recovering from surgery. I had to take charge of everything including thinking about our safety and security. In the past I paid the bills, made decisions, serviced the cars, etc. but DH had always been my protector. So I had to prepare for everything and be able to execute those plans!

The lists began with water, food, power, medical and safety. SAFETY. Now, we both have CCW’s and keep weapons by the front and rear doors (bobcats, coyotes, hogs, dogs, rattlers, copperheads, moccasins, etc.). I always carried my Beretta .32 Tomcat, you know in case of stuff. And we practiced shooting. But for some reason I just couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with that gun and that is in a calm, safe, setting, where I can take all day to aim. If someone broke into our house and I was half asleep, there is no way I could defend us unless I threw the gun at the intruder. All this was occurring before I started prepping and before I found this blog or read any of the survival books, so I really had to think things through being uninformed and all. I asked family and friends for advice and most would pat the little old lady on the head and ask DH if I had had my meds that day.

I searched the Internet. Bought gun and home defense magazines. Went to gun shows. Visited the different sporting goods stores. I made the rounds.

I played out the scenario in my head: It’s 3 a.m. My chihuahua’s growling wakes me. I jump out of bed and grab a weapon just as the bad person bursts through the door. I have one chance to stop the intruder. But what weapon would that be? A FRANCHI SPAS-12 SHOTGUN with a 14” barrel! If wishes were horses – right?

I had to decide what weapon would get the job done. What could I handle effectively today and for years to come? The Mossberg 500 was in my price range and had a good reputation. Then there was Benelli, a choice of some of my friends.

For help, I passed up the big box and sporting goods stores and went to the most respected gun dealer/smith in my area.

I told him what I could afford and he handed me shotgun after shotgun. Putting each to my shoulder, turning around, pretending to be in a fight. Too heavy, too long, too hard to sight, too difficult to load…on and on and then like magic, IT was in my hands.

The moment I brought it to my shoulder I knew this was the one for me. It was a Remington 870 20 gauge Junior pump shotgun with an 18.5” barrel. It wasn’t perfect, but darn near. Flat black, with black strap. No frills. A child’s reliable first gun.

Now, the modifications: we replaced the stock with a Blackhawk Spec Ops NRS stock with adjustable length of pull, pistol grip, and butt cushion. I kept the original forend and added Williams FireSights. The dealer sold me Winchester #3 Buck Ammo and I was ready for – PRACTICE!

I bought an annual membership at the local NRA sanctioned gun club and with safety goggles and earplugs headed to the range. A friend gave me some S&B #4 magnum dove shot and I purchased a box of Winchester Super-Target Target Load #8. The Buck shot would definitely stop anyone coming through my doorway, was easily handled and only had a little kick and the magnum Dove shot was a little too much for home defense inside the house.

But what if I don’t have time to put the gun to my shoulder? I have to be able to control the gun easier than those two allowed. With the target load, I can shoot from the hip using the pistol grip and maintain my grip with the minimal recoil. At 20’ the target load cut my target in half. I have a fairly tight pattern and was told the load would not travel through the walls to the adjacent rooms.

Now weekly, DH and I haul our arsenal to the range and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Most of our firearms are of small caliber with a select few high powered long range guns. My personal gear consists of two hand guns, a rifle, my shotgun, a compound bow, a crossbow, and various knives. Of course, we have the usual non-lethal weapons we carry as we travel. But, if someone is coming through my door at 3 a.m. without a key, they are not delivering flowers.

So, I finally have my baby, the modified Remington 870 20 ga. Junior. Just right for me. Sitting beside my bed.

Shortly after buying my shotgun, I picked up a copy of The Gun Buyers Annual #113 in which John Higgs had written an article about modifying a Mossberg 500C by sawing off the barrel (18” is the shortest legal barrel length) and tube and having both rethreaded, changed out the stock and forend, added a rail and sights and wound up with a shotgun comparable to mine. But mine was a lot less expensive.

I have decided to not modify my tube. Four shells in the tube and one in the chamber should take care of what I need it for. But just in case, a bandoleer hangs on the bedpost.

Everyone should have a plan for what to do in the event of home invasion. No one weapon will work for everyone. But consider you may only have a split second to do anything and it needs to be effective. So the weapon must be the right one for you and your venue. I hope my experience helps someone get an informed start.

God Bless and keep prepping.

This contest will end on October 10 2012 – prizes include:

  • First Place : $100 Cash.
  • Second Place : $50 Cash.
  • Third Place : $25 Cash.

Contest ends on October 10 2012.

Comments

  1. great article g ma!! I passed on a used wingmaster in 12 gauge and I kick myself for it still. I am glad on how you looked for your gun,not a gun someone wanted to sell you. My step gma used to hunt deer with a 20 gauge pump years ago. She lived in California where you hunt with rifles but she had artharitis in her spine and could not shoot a centerfire rifle.Her gun was a 870 or model 12 winnie I do not remember.take care gma Steve

    • Axel,,not trying to start something, but I have to correct your posting,,,20 gauge has a recoil of 21 foot pounds, a 12 gauge has 24 foot pounds,,, a 243 has 8 foot pounds,,, even ifyou move up to a 30-06 it is only 11 foot pounds,,,,, a shot gun is not easier to shoot than a center fire,,,,

      • to clarify,, I was only pointing out the related differance in recoil,,,of course a short shotgun is a great, probable the best house gun.

        • No problem Lee. Maybe my grandma had other reasons she just said that she could no longer shoot a rifle. She mentioned her back and I did not think of anything otherwise.

        • Lee, you need to recheck your 30-06 recoil numbers. 11 pounds may be the weight of the rifle where recoil is a minimum of about 20 ft lbs.
          Everybody knows a 30-06 180 grain load will kick the hell out of you.

          • Yeb Rich, I looked at the wrong collume for the 30-06,,,but it is still less the either a 20 or 12 guage shotgun, that was the point of my message.

      • GeorgeisLearning says:
        • Yes, that was the source I used for both rifle and shotgun,,, when I looked at the 30-06 I forgot which collume was energy and which was velocity, I mistaken switched them for the 30-06,,, but both shotguns recoil energy is still higher, granted not by much for the 30-06.

  2. Nice article, Tactical G-Ma! Thanks so much for your time and trouble writing it!

  3. Very good read and a good reminder that a tool you can’t handle is hardly a tool at all.

  4. Tactical G-Ma:

    Glad you like the 870 20 ga. I have one, traded the other for a 20 ga autoloader. I prefer #4 buck for home defense and finally found the Federal is making a Defense load with it. Bought mine at Cheaper Than Dirt on line. My practice loads are Federal #7.5 from Wal-Mart (about $24 for 100 rounds).

    • Justsomeguy says:

      There ya go .. Rem and Mossy now offer a line of 20 ga. ‘social’ shotguns. Happy to know a ‘defense’ load is on the market. Wouldn’t happen to be ‘buck & ball’ would it?

      • Justsomeguy:

        There isn’t a buck & ball load for the 20 ga that I know of. WHo knows what the future will bring.

        • I load my own buck and ball rounds. A Lee Loadall or the out of production Lee field loader for 20 gauge are the cheapest way to load your own. I got my field kit from Ebay years ago for less than $40.

  5. SurvivorDan says:

    “So, I finally have my baby, the modified Remington 870 20 ga. Junior. Just right for me. Sitting beside my bed.”

    I have carried and used a lot of weapons in the course of working for Uncle Sam, LE, hunting and just for fun. My favorite weapon that I can hunt and defend myself with is my 870 Remington, albeit 12 gauge. I have many weapons but my short list of long guns (for grab and go) is my .223 Bushmaster, 10/22 Ruger and my 870 Remington. That 870 has sure been reliable. I do have a 6 rd tube for a total of 7. Having been in a serious social situation or two, I like the extra rds. But to each his/her own. ;)
    Been eyeing a Rem 20 gauge. Good choice.

  6. Sounds like very practical advice to me, especially on getting protection that feels right to you and is comfortable!

    The best advice you gave was…PRACTICE!

  7. Good article! This is a great example of using your head, thinking it through, and coming up with the solution that’s best for your needs…and anyone who gets cut in half breaking in at three AM is never going to know that you didn’t go bankrupt preparing for him!

  8. Cliff in Douglasville says:

    Congrats on the new purchase and I applaud your choice. That particular shotgun, less the modifications you made was one of the first guns I bought when I started prepping quite a few years back. My wife can handle it, my, at the time, teenage daughter, could handle it and I can handle from the shoulder or from the hip. The shorter barrel makes it easy to come around corners with. The whole family is now proficient and cleaning, loading, firing, unloading, clearing malfunctions, location and rapid reloading and we don’t have to worry about over penetration killing the neighbor across the street while he sleeps in his bedroom. Just keep practicing. Practice at night if you can. The muzzle flash is quite dramatic and can take away your night vision really quick so practice so you’ll be ready if you have to use it in the middle of the night (most likely time). Keep prepping, keep your powder dry and watch your back.

  9. I think you have just hit on what I have been expounding all along. Whatever weapon suits you, your situation and abilities is the weapon for you. Any perceived shortcomings can be adjusted with practice, choice of ammunition and a true realization of just what you can and can not do with your weapon choice.

  10. Great article! You have really done your homework (and field work too!) on this.

    I differ in just one small thing, (it wouldn’t be small if it happened!) in that, ANY leathal shotgun round WILL go right through most common Sheetrock interior walls like butter. If you don’t believe me, mock up a wall and try it.

    Tex

    • Agreed and there are several You Tube videos that put that myth to rest. One of my favorites
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo

    • Even birdshot will go through a wall, especially if you fire at a close distance. The shot is in almost a solid ball and will punch right through the wall and take out anyone on the other side.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Tex, Mex, Scott, and you other sportsmen who insisted interior drywall walls would not stop any rounds,

        I bow to your wisdom. Should have done my homework on that one but now I know the truth. Thanks Mex for the video. If I miss my target, those in adjoining rooms could be in peril. (At least ya’ll know I have never shot a shotgun inside a house!) But, I must say I feel more confident in my ability to stop an intruder at a moments notice with that shotgun than with anyother gun in our arsenol. SIL says it should make a pretty good bird gun too. I just prefer yard bird in my pot.

        • Tactial G-Ma,
          The only issue I have with that video and some of the others is when they nay say low velocity rounds. Sometimes it’s not the gun it’s the ammo. If you are planning to defend yourself within the confines of your home I recommend the Aguila Minishell shotshells. I don’t know if they make them for a 20 gauge, but from personal experience I know these are lethal within 15 feet. They also make a slug if you want to do what they call a “candy cane” load in the video.

  11. Awesome story! Congrats on your purchase, and good solid, well informed decisions.

  12. Should also try out the Taurus Judge pistol that will shoot a .410 shell. I have the larger Judge that handles the 3 inch shells, and my wife has the smaller Judge that handles the 2 1/2 inch shells. THE best snake gun that you can carry on your belt….;-)

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      I just may. Right now I carry a .22 revolver or a 9mm with rat shot when I am in the pastures. But that taurus judge might be better cause there have been snakes who have stood up and laughed at the .22!

    • I also like the Judge but the all metal version is not light. It was smooth shooting and well balanced with the weight offsetting the power of the rounds imho. I have never held or fired the ultra light Judge.

  13. Sounds like an awesome combination! I was looking to buy/build the same combination out of a Mossberg 500 (only reason being I like where the safetys located). Check WalMart for ammo, the one local to me has 12 and 20 gauge 00buck for $12.00 for 15 rounds.

  14. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    Excellent choice ma’am. The Remington 870 is tried and true with decades of faithful service for hunters, trap shooters, LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers) and even our military. Our family owns several versions of this same gun and have no complaints about them, my oldest was purchased NIB in 1976.

    Down here in south Texas, the ‘economically challenged’ don’t hunt in pulled wagons or even pickup cabs with seats ready to disembark the hunters. Us poor boys hunt bobwhite quail by chasing them until they flush. For this reason, a lightweight shotgun is greatly appreciated at the end of the day. I chose the 870Y 20 gauge for this as well, my 12 870 pump was allowing my tongue to get sunburned. 8^) I also bought the adult sized stock in case I want to switch to it, but frankly, I shoot it just fine as-is. There are some DIY ‘slicking action up’ tricks you can do to help it wear in quicker. Many just advocate shooting it, gaining practice in the bargain.

    Good luck with it – I hope you’ll never need to use it, but if you do, a 20 will make a fine house gun. I hope your husband continues to recover.

  15. Some people believe the sound of a shotgun chambering a round is the universal language for “GET THE F*@K OUT OF HERE”… then there are others that believe the sound of the safety switch being moved from Safe to Fire is the only warning necessary ;O)

    • There’s nothing like the racking of a shotgun to get someone’s attention. I’ve done it and the suspect nearly defecated in his undies.

  16. Awesome, I have sever damage to my left shoulder, and we search for different “long” guns, that are a good fit for me. So glad for you that you have found that good fit

  17. Good on you, Tactical G-Ma.

    Firstly, I have the Remington 870 supermag in 12 gauge and love the gun. Glad you like the Remington in the 20 gauge. Good that you have it and I hope that you never have to use it.

    Secondly, I’m glad to have read this. I have finally convinced my 59 year old mother to come to the range and try shooting. So having read by a woman who is probably around my moms age (give or take?) and what you have a positive experience with, it gives me a good jumping off point for my own mom.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Mike, tell mom their are a ton of golden girls at the range. Seniors are considered easy game by predators. And once they are within arms reach we have lost. Besides shooting up zombies is fun!

  18. Being comfortable with your gun is highly important along with rock solid reliability.

    I am not a fan of heavy loads in shotguns for home defense because those pellets will travel through walls and potentially injure family members. at inside a house distances #7 bird shot (or prairie storm for more serious damage) will thoroughly cover an intruder in a 12″-18″ spread and not tear through walls.

    • Please never assume that any given load will not go through a wall. Remember, you have the wall construction to worry about as well as the round strength. “Don’t worry, it won’t go through” sounds like a good candidate for the ‘famous last words’ list.

  19. Justsomeguy says:

    Oouuh-Rah Tacmomma: Over the last 12 years I have taken Tactical Shotgun training for 10 of em.. My brother in law was the first one to bring a 20 ga. to the course and the rest of the class sorta gave him the ‘holy smoke look’ and chuckled a bit. That was 2002. He had to as he has Cystic Fibrosis and his 12. was actually dangerous to shoot.

    Last season nearly 1/3rd of the class was running 20s myself as well. I love my olde PoliceMag12. buttttt I have learned to love my 20s. I own 2 mossey 20s and and a wingmaster with rifle sights. Your 870 build is the best of many things that make a shotgun simply the right tool for so much. I run #4buck and berneike.. bernaky…. berniky.. eh. KO slugs.

    If you are in the mood and budget why don’t we get togeather a “Pack” Tactical Shotgun shoot this July. I think there is room for about 30 max .. well 29 or so cause I signed up for it already.

    Anybody else interested………………?

  20. Thank you for your great technical artical. The guns I used to shoot are now to much for me and can cause pain when shooting very many rounds. All of us who are now senior survivalist love to hear from others who are adapting for our decrease abilities.

  21. One of my first guns was a stevens 311 side by side 20 ga that my grandpa taught me bird hunt with and then gave me. Still use it and have taken a lot of limits of dove, quail and even ducks with it. Only bird hunted with a 12 ga a few times and went back to the lighter 20 g after starting to drag ass after a few hours. Plus if I can’t hit em with 2 shots a couple more is just wasting shells. May have to look into getting a 20g for home defense also. Think I will go drop some doves tommorow.

  22. Like Monty I prefer an ambi saftey to the Remmies right hand orientation. A consideration for those having a south paw that might use the gun. As for 20 vs. 12 guages there are plenty of SD loads for 20s around now. If buck shot in 28 gauge were available id not hesitate to recommend it to those that can’t handle a 20.

  23. Tactical G ma, good artical.
    After my buddy teased me for not having a ‘real’ gun,380, I went and bought a 12 gauge Mossberg Ultimag.Now a 3 1/2 ” magnum slug has a bit of a kick to it, not that i can’t shoot it , but it isn’t what i’d call fun.I still have it, still practice with it, but it’s been a hunting only tool.Will be upgrading the ‘arsenol’ soon with more ‘wimpy’ calibers,22 lr, 223 rem. I think it’s more important to hit what your aiming at,shooting with confidence, than how badass your gun is.Looks don’t kill, shot placement does.

    • Justsomeguy says:

      Yeeah.. Big D. slam the hammer on that nail! I take my rifle sighted wingmaster .. in 20ga. .. to the three gun meets here in Ohio. The rifle stage is always 100 yards and under so I use a KO slug and only put one round in the torso and take the ‘technical’ and move on. (the range monkeys don’t care to paste more than one big hole in the targets. It takes up to three pasters to cover a cookie cutter hole like the KO slug and you can see the hit at 100 yrds. ) You got it…. shot placement!

  24. Tactical G-Ma says:

    Thanks all for the positive feedback. And JP, DS, and others who suggested types of ammo, I certainly will give them a try.

    But any of you who think you needn’t worry about home invasion, it happens all the time everywhere. In urban, suburban, and rural areas.

    Be ready and be smart.

    • lauri pettit says:

      thanks for the great article you hit on several spots that i had pondered but never acted on thanks for the push :)

  25. Tactical G-ma:
    Simply a wonderful article! I love your sense of humor and the fact you found a weapon you trust. God Bless, Cos

  26. Buuurr in Ohio says:

    Great read. My only advise for anyone with a new shotgun for self defense is to go hunting with it as soon as possible. I always shot skeet and paper with my Mossberg 930 SPX w/pistol grip and ghost ring sights and I always wondered how I would be in a quick self defense situation. I always wondered if I would hurt or injure a loved one or bystander because everyone always talked about the shotgun not being manageable of its load and strays. I can tell you without a doubt at hunting many a quail that small, lighting fast targets are no match for my shotty at close range. I can also say that I no longer have any worries or concerns about injuring a loved one or bystander in a self defense scenario. Again, my only advise for gun owners out there is to get out and hunt. There is nothing closer to reality and the rush you get when you are startled.

  27. Uncle Charlie says:

    I bought a couple of Saiga shotguns in 20 gauge and .410 for my son and daughter-in-law. For myself, I’ll keep my Mossberg/Mavericks in .20 and 12 gauge with 8 shot capacity.

  28. Good article G-Ma…..I love the fact that you took the time to feel out the correct weapon for YOU. Often times many wives get stuck with whatever their husband has bought or recommended. I applaud your thinking it out and not settling for less than what you wanted. Again, good reading

  29. Tactical G-Ma,
    I wish you luck in this contest. I am very glad to hear you say that you are happy with the Remington 870 20-gauge youth model. This is the same shotgun I picked up for my ex-wife.

  30. Tactica G-Ma
    Very well written and you get the information within the context of a great story. I felt like we were sitting in your kitchen having coffee ‘n corn bread while you told me how you chose your favorite gun.

  31. The most important thing you can do is PRACTICE with your weapon. Get to know it like the back of your hand.

  32. PreppingMomma5 says:

    Love this article! I just recently got a Mossberg 12 gauge for our house (interesting conversation with the hubs when he wondered why I wanted one!) and I have to admit I LOVE the sound of the pump! But in all honesty, it does make me feel so much safer with it in the house. Also thought I would try out a new name on this site seeing as “New” is something that seems to be frequently used by others on this blog, and I thought this name was much more fitting for me! I am the one who posted a while ago about being the Momma to 5 kids, three of them very little. Now I am curious about a handgun. I see a lot of people suggest a Glock 19, but a friend of mine was a cop and he was a little surprised by this and suggested a Glock 26 which I believe is a 9mm. Any thoughts seeing as I know nothing about guns? Hubby is going to be extremely surprised when I come to him with this one, still working on getting him onboard! But have to admit he loves that I want to buy guns!!

    • The model 19 is a more common 9mm compact, where the model 26 is a smaller sub-compact, which includes a shorter slide and smaller handle so it is easier to conceal. Some people think the sub-compact is not as accurate, but in all honesty, once you have become accustomed to the feel and can reliably place your shots where you intend them to go, that placement is what’s important.

      I use to shoot with a friend that carried a Walther .32 PPK, and others at the range initially teased him, that was until he consistently triple-tapped in tight groups.

    • Justsomeguy says:

      Momma5. Everybody is right about whick one to get. My bias is that Glocks work for me. We own all of the 9s. I use the 34 for IDPA most of the season. Mommasan uses the 19. Baby uses the tricked out 19 I gave her at Graduation. I have a 17 tricked out with an M3 light tucked away in the house. I bought a 26 and had Bowie Tactical 360 stipple the grip and shave the horn on the trigger gaurd. I carry that one with a 2 round extention on the Mag so I get a full grip on the … grip. My reloads are all full sized 17 rders. I run this lil Glock once a month at either an ipsic, idpa, or 3 gun match. I get the same performace as any of the others. Practice practice practice. I picked up an old gen 1 G21 at my local gun show last year. Couldn’t maintain a grip past the 3rd. round and I have ham hocks for hands. The thing is a real brick as is. Had Bowie cut down the grip and stipple it…. fits me like G19 now and with 14 rounds of 45acp.

      I did say I’m a Glock fan didn’t I? I have seen a number of ‘used’ Glocks at my local gun show .. and I own a few of em now .. I have yet to see but a couple of G19s and no G26s on a table as the ‘Door Pouchers’ tend to buy them when they are brought in the door.

      Lots o advice in here huh! G19 / G26 eh…. there is only a half inch difference at either end. Take a look at BowieTactical if you wanna think about the possibilities with a polymere gun.

      Lady ‘G’ has done it right… take the time to find the right fit.

  33. Tactical G-Ma,

    Great read and I’m especially impressed with your process for picking out your gun. Too many people have ideas on gauge, action, barrel length, etc. and get mired in the details, many times ending up with a solution that isn’t right for them. First finding a gun that fit you physically and then selecting a gauge that you were comfortable working with is absolutely the right way to do things. I have an 870 in 12G, but personally my tactical gun is a Winchester 1300 Marine. We also have an 870 youth model in .410 which is what worked best for my daughter when we were looking for a good hunting tool. We often get to involved with other folks opinions instead of concentrating on what works specifically for each of us individually. Being a small framed guy, my DDs youth model is still a good fitting gun and fun to shoot.

    As for the best tactical ammunition, how to layer or stack it in the firing sequence, etc, there are as many opinions on it as there are people with opinions. My two recommendations for you would be the following:
    • Along with the bandoleer hanging on the bedpost, you can get a small bandoleer of sorts, typically known as a side saddle. Here is an example (which I’m not endorsing) http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/38853. I prefer ones which allow shells to be loaded into it from both the top and the bottom. If for instance you put #00 Buck in from the top, and rifled slugs from the bottom, you can easily do an on the fly tactical reload without looking, or even in low light situations. My Winchester carries 7+1 and the side saddle carries another 7. I hope to never need them all at once, but I’d rather have them available than not.
    • Secondly, just practicing shooting the gun on the range is good, but is not necessarily the best way to develop skill for tactical/home defense use. I would recommend finding a copy (from a friend, your local library, or purchased [new or used] a copy of the Magpul DVD called “The art of the tactical shotgun”. It has very good examples of how to run the gun while keeping it loaded with the appropriate ammunition, and keeping your eyes on the bad guy. Start off performing the tactical slowly until you learn to do things with muscle memory, and then the speed will come automatically as you get more comfortable with the techniques.

    And finally, have fun!!!

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      OP,

      Will look for that DVD. Thanks for the tip.

      • Tactical G-Ma,
        Something felt wrong after my post so I checked my DVD set and found I had posted a slightly wrong title. It’s by Magpul Dynamics but is actually named, “The Art of the Dynamic Shotgun”, not Tactical shotgun. It’s a 3-Disc DVD set and runs about $40.00 MSRP new; however, I just checked Amazon and they have it for $31.00. I’d still check the library first.

  34. GeorgeisLearning says:

    Great read G-ma thanks

  35. Tactical Gma, your timing for this article was perfect. I have been researching shotguns and was liking what I was reading about the Mossberg 20g 500 Bantam. Now I have another one to check out. I, too, have sore joints. My son brought over his brand new Cruiser and Chainsaw 12 gauge shotguns for us to try; he first shot them and yelped at the kickback. His dad and I passed real quick. I need something that I will not be afraid to pull the trigger on! Thanks for the timely article.

    • Justsomeguy says:

      I bought a Mossy 20 cause I like the location of the safty … and the fact that it is smaller than a 590 and easy to move around with. My BIL and I both put Choate full length pistol grip stocks on ours (the same stock works on both the 12 and the 20). We found that you can hold up the 20 by the grip alllllll day long it is that much lighter and easy to handle with the pistol grip. Tac reloads while moving are very easy. House clearing drills with this lil 20 are like cheating on a test. I like this 20 so much I bought another one with an adjustable Knox.

      • Have you tried one like the Chainsaw? The handle is on top, and you hold it just like you would a chainsaw. Hubby liked that, he wouldn’t even need to put it to his shoulder. It was a 12 gauge and I guess the shells son used really made it kick, he even yelped as it took him by surprise. Then he said ‘Crap! That hurt!!’

        I was wondering if I could get the Chainsaw handle for the Mossberg 20g 500 Bantam or would that shotgun be too small for it? Any ideas Pack??

        • Thomas The Tinker says:

          Couldn’t say about the chainsaw grip for a 20. Youd need a new forend. The lack of a full stock will make it near impossible to use this weapon for slugs beyound snap shooting ranges. There is a move you can use with any shotgun for under 20odd feet. This eliminates recoil completely. But!!! takes practice .. a bunch.

          Do this with an empty weapon until you have the timing perfect.
          This move does not work well … at all .. with a high ready or port ready.

          From a low ready or with the ‘trigger’ hand grip on your hip, extend the muzzle of the weapon toward the center mass of your target as it you are attempting to punch the target with the end of the muzzle as rapidly as you can. Taking a step forward with your strong side leg as you make this move is a good idea here. Your goal is to have the weapon fully extended at the moment your trigger hand takes up all the slack and fires the weapon. This is no ‘homey’ move. With practice you can engage a target 1/2 a second or more … faster than coming up or down from a ready. The forward momentum of your weapon moved in such a way and speed exceeds the recoil weight of the shotgun … ego .. zero recoil. This move also places a fully stocked weapon in position for a stroke and combat ready second shot.

          OPOTA started teaching this move 3 years ago. I picked it up last year at my anual ShotGun training. Hope this is helpful to the Pack……..

  36. Today I was at wally mart and saw a bushnell 22 rimfire scope. Has anyone any knowledge of them? I was thinking about getting one for my marlin 700.

  37. Axel, I have never liked those small 22 scopes,,,put a one inch scope on your rifle,, more light, wider field of view, better optics,,,I see Bushnell, Tasco, Simmons all the time for under $80 for a 4 x 32 or 3x9x40

  38. Thanks Lee. That is one thing that I did not look at. I also prefer a 1 inch tube. I would keep just irons on it but the sightes were gone when I bought it.

  39. Good article! Some of us may be smaller and older – and use small weaponry, but finding the right “fit” and practice, practice, practice makes us a force to be reckoned with! From one g’ma to another – You GO girl!!

  40. Thank you for posting a great information,I think shotgun is more preferable.and as well as give you more comfort to use..

  41. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
    A widow kept a shotgun with her at all times, she lived on a ranch and had a problem with a mountain lion that killed her dog.
    It’s to bad she didn’t have the shot gun before her dog was killed.