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How can you tell others about the need to prepare without making yourself a target for unwanted visitors in the future?

Looking forward to the discussion in the comments below…

Comments

  1. Denkermann says:

    I generally start out the conversation with an icebreaker like: “Hey Joe, I was thumbing through some magazines in the doctors office the other day and came across an article that described FEMA and the CDC recommending we all keep at least a weeks worth of supplies tucked away in case of some emergency….Waddaya think about that?” Let the conversation flow from there, the somewhere along the line I say “Well you’ve met my friends Bill and Louise over on 2nd street haven’t you? The couple that moved over here from the east coast last year.” “Well I mentioned this to them and they told me that they’ve been through a couple of hurricanes and a weeks worth just won’t cut it – they’ve got a whole months worth now and wish they could afford more. That got me to thinking that it might be a good idea – whatcha think about that?” Again let the conversation build and let old Joe talk himself into it all on his own. If he’s got a wife and kids use them as a concern/sympathy tool. And all this time you never told him you’ve actually already started.

    • You didn’t paint a target on your back but, you didn’t do good ole Bill and Louise any favors.

      • Denkermann says:

        Bill and Louise are fictional…I know that he’s never met them because they don’t actually exist, but Joe doesn’t know that – just like I haven’t been to the doctors office in over 3 years….

    • “Did you see the article about how the EPA had to hire a consultant to come in and tell its employees not to poop in the hallways? If another Katrina or Sandy happened that’s the quality of help you would get, and have to get by with what you have until someone tells them how to get their act together”.

  2. I liken our situation to a parable in the Bible. The rich man and the beggar at his gate died at about the same time, with the rich man going into torment. He was able to look across the chasm into Heaven where he saw the poor beggar at Abraham’s side. The rich man begged Abraham to send the beggar back to warn his 5 brothers of their fate. Here is the answer he received in Luke 16:31:
    He(Abraham) said to him, “If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead”.

    One doesn’t have to be a Christian to see the point. If people can’t look around and see what’s happening, there is no amount of convincing on my part that will influence them. I no longer tell anyone that I prep, or risk letting anyone know I prep. I might encourage others, but it’s always in a general way, and never specifically. The vast, vast majority of people want nothing to do with preparedness, and will lash out at you if you even suggest such a thing. My 2 cents.

    • Cookie Lady says:

      Amen Wolfman–I thought I was the only person out here in the world with that viewpoint. Family 1200 miles away thinks I am nuts, and local neighbors ARE nuts. Why paint ‘another’ target on my back??

      • Cookie Lady, there are a couple of people in my family who made fun of me when I prepped for Y2K. During the family reunion this year, both made it a point to ask me about my “survivalist” gear and food. I believe both intend to show up at my doorstep when or if things go south. Both have large families. Problem for them, though, I’ve moved since they’ve been to my home, and they don’t know it. I have given my present address to no other family member other than my sister, and she won’t give it out as she and her husband are preppers, but live in another state. If things didn’t work out for me at my place, I would try and make it to hers, and vice versa.

        • Hey Wolfman,

          I agree with 100% I have tried to help people, only to be laughed at and ridiculed. I have given up on trying to help those who cannot help themselves. You are right it just paints a target on your back. Even people that knew I did this when they ask I tell them that it was a phase and I sold all my stuff because it was not worth it or some other stereotypical excuse. It is pathetic how society has turned out and I do believe most people will go out with a whimper and not a bang.

          • It is always a good idea to give a warning of things that may come though. I obviously am not prepping for a zombie invasion.

  3. Talk about various natural disasters, esp after a tornado or hurricane or earthquake has struck, & there are news stories about people struggling to survive afterwards.
    2. Talk about what the national debt could cause if current trends continue. In short, describe the problems, so that preparing is seen as the solution to the problem.

  4. Amen, amen, brother Wolfman.

    • Thank you, Brother.

      • For you, Wolfman ….. Matthew 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
        17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

  5. Thomas The Tinker says:

    We don’t recruit in this house. We make and maintain our preps. Some, like our in laws in Mo., have noticed and decided it is prudent. Nearly everyone that has taken notice (you catch the double takes) does an eyebrow lift and moves along. Then…. I’m of the opinion that a deep die off is just what this poor rock needs.

  6. usually its an economic reason, telling friends about the deals i get on end of season seasonal produce and how i can it myself for later use. i can frequently get 80% ground beef for $1 a lb and put it in widemouth pints (1 lb per can). at 7pm a grocery store will often mark down meat that expires at midnight, they can’t sell after that so mark it down to get it gone while they can still make something on it. regular price is usually $4 a lb. a friend opperates an orchard and frequently has more apples than he can do anything with, the blemished ones often just get dumped in a pile to rot, they make good cider, sauce and pie filling, just going over and picking up the stuff no one else wants i can set back 50 or more quarts of apples for just the price of jar lids and fuel. i get people interested in stocking food by giving out apple pies, in february made on the wood stove with home canned ingredients. this has got a number of friends of mine interested in canning and stocking food when they can get it free or cheap (rather than buying it as they use it)

    when everyone is concerned and hard pressed for winter heating fuel i am usually relaxed because i use wood and keep enough for 2 or 3 winters, while they wait till the last minute and have to pay higher competative prices. since i tend to have things ready in davance for the next season i spend far less money (buying everything out of season when prices are lower then having it already when demand and prices jump). i’m not getting people into a prepping strategy for catastrophy, just getting them to think and plan in advance as a way to make life easier, by getting people to stock some food, fuel, etc have a generator (when the power went out for a week due to an ice storm i was the only guy in the township besides the Amish who didn’t know about it, i was unaffected by a common winter problem in the region). having some planning mentality developed makes people better prepared for a kittentastrophy (small catastrophy) and once they get into that mindset they start thinking about more extensive prepping type projects. (i still don’t consider myself a prepper, but i live off my off grid farm so prepping type activities are just sound planing to get me from one planting season/harvest to the next)

    • most of my friends are also native american (I worked on the Rez for years in one of the Tribal offices, sitting at a truck stop on the Rez using wifi right now). anyway the tribes are very aware of the concept of prepping, many are very active in teaching traditional skills such as farming, fishing, hunting and trapping as part of the cultural heritage, and by default everyone tends to have a better than average prepper type mindset. and a history of being treated like shit by non natives has made everyone have by default a strong concept of not trusting government for anything (who kicked them off good farmland and forced them to live on desolate wastelands no one else wanted?), everyone also tends to be well armed. the massive impact of viruses has also made a lot of tribes plan for community wide response, training the members of the tribe in shtf type planning (i was on the hazmat team for a few years), the way they get everyone thinking about viruses is to remind the community of how easy it was for some people on a boat called the mayflower to set up a town after a virus wiped out 99% of the local population.

      • Do keep in mind that smallpox had a 30% mortality rate for whites so it was not something to purposely spread.

        • at the time the tribes were mostly wiped out like that, no one had any idea what caused illness, europeans at the time knew symptoms but had no idea what caused it. The Spanish wiped out most of the Aztecs simply because they carried some viruses over with them that they were imune to, but the Aztecs had never experienced before. while a european town at the time might loose some people the tribes could go from 40,000 to 1,000 in a couple months. had the land not been rapidly depopulated the tribes would have just sent europeans back at the point of a spear (a generation before the Pilgrims landed several expeditions had landed and woke up surrounded 1000 to 1, Squanto brokered that alliance because the tribe had just experienced an appocoliptic loss of population and there were other political and economic factors involved, a generation ago and the pilgrims would have been ordered to leave by a vast and overwhelming force. prior to about 150 years ago no one knew how a disease spread or what caused it.

    • Cookie Lady says:

      Kittenastrophy–love that word

  7. This weekend we spend 4 days with some friends at their remote “cabin” and the possible need to evacuate and “hole up” came up. The DW and I mostly listened, as the discussion went on. It sounded like some of the discussions here on Tuesday. MY only comment to what they had to say was, “It’s going to take a lot more food and equipment than I think you are planning for.”

    At least some of our friends are waking up to what is going on.

  8. DW and I have done just about all we can to inform, share, and educate in a safe fashion. Most/all of us here on the blog agree that putting a billboard on your front lawn, stating “WE PREP, COME ROB US”, is a very bad idea.

    I have to agree with T3 above. Natural selection, survival of the preppest, and all that. If folks are just too lazy or stupid or arrogant to see what’s going on around them, then maybe getting scooped out of that shallow end of the gene pool is what’s best for all concerned. Not for me to say, I suppose – but I do know, and have explained to exhaustion to the visiting relatives, that I’m not going to be standing on our road waving in passing strangers, with a cup o’hot cocoa.

    Best case scenario? Nothing ever happens, and a lot more members of the race have learned to be more self-sufficient.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2msbfN81Gm0

  9. Hitting kinda close to home aren’t cha! I tried to talk to people for years and I can tell you that’s the biggest waste of time anyone could ever come up with, I estimate that the number is close to “O”. To those with family that are on board I salute you!

  10. OPSEC ? I have no OPSEC. When you teach classes that goes out the window.
    That said I like to use current events. St. Louis was a good 1 . Mention it then say did you see how fast the price of bottle water went up? Or mor current and closer to home for M.D. Would be ,”did you hear about the water problems in Bledsoe co. ”
    People walk into May repair shop and see paracord ,hand grinders ,grain flankers and the like for sale they just know while way I lean.

  11. I have always been concerned about some sort of pending disaster. I had been wanting for years to start preparing but had a somewhat difficult time getting the DW on board. This was easily solved when we started taking the kids camping and i was able to start combining preps with camping gear. We started gardening and I have been learning to can and pickle.

    As for family and friends, my mother is the only family that is on board. We are actually planning and prepping for the immediate extended family (my siblings, their spouses and kids, my in-laws). It is my opinion that most people prefer to be an ostrich with its head in the sand. Big brother will never let anything happen. I can’t just walk away from my family but society as a whole is on its own.

  12. Frankly, I can’t be bothered. If they can’t see what I see and make themselves ready then they aren’t worth expending time and effort on.

  13. I don’t even try anymore. I’ve learned the doublespeak that preppers use to feel each other out. It starts with a casual comment the spirals inward with neither party admitting anything outright. Over time things open up and specifics are finally discussed.

    As far as recruiting someone, I’ve found it’s a waste of time. People are either going to take responsibility for themselves and their families or they aren’t. I long ago lost patience with people who won’t.

  14. Wolf man and tommy2r,s hit the nail on the head. If people don’t have at least inkling by now that all is not well, I’m not risking exposure to warn them. Sometimes the gene pool does need a good back flushing. I am however prepared to behave in a Christian manner to those that didn’t prepare. I’ve stored far more than I need knowing I’ll be handing out care packages to help folks make a few more days as they wander around wondering what to do and where to go. Not being naive,I am equally prepared to defend my home from those that would mistake kindness and compassion ,for weakness.

  15. All most people ever see is the visible part of my pantry. I don’t often talk about it but when I get comments, I call it my insurance policy against job loss. I tell them that I have a child to feed and it is my job to ensure that he always has a meal. Then I ask when do they have planned. About 50% of the time then next time I visit they will proudly show me a pantry that could last them a week or two. At that point, I’ll discuss the Canadian Red Cross and the Canadian government’s recommended 72-hour kits and then remind them how long it took the power to come back on in the last ice storm and suggest a bit longer. In the end I know of only three people who have ever actually got prepared. My sister buys all of her food daily and orders in. She thinks we’re nuts and mostly avoids us – a fact made easier by our move out of the Province last fall. I have only one friend who ever said she was coming to us. I have seen her once since then and she began to talk about my pantry at a party. I played it right down as did one other guest. I haven’t see that friend since.

    • Amen, Lili of the Lake.

      I noted several weeks back how my BIL popped in unannounced over a year ago, with his large, loud, left-wing whackjob gal-pal w/benefits. I was in the thick of inventorying certain things. Her (loud) comment was, “Well, I know where I’M coming if things get bad!” It was an unbelievably valuable lesson. I decided that night that should that brassy broad actually show up here when SHTF, we’ll trade ‘er for something more useful, like a shoelace. :)

    • very good way to do it, demonstrate a supply of groceries, best if it can incorporate money saving advice. back in 98 we had an ice storm that took out roads and powerlines, grocery stores were cleaned out in a week (operated on fema generators) firehalls and schools were set up as shelters, out in the hills we went more than 3 weeks without power in the worst of winter, i carried in firewood for 3 families, tended livestock, etc and mostly ate boiled potatoes. in 95 we had the microburst and the dense mess of down trees still makes it hard to get through some areas of the back country, people had to be airlifted out of remote areas and it took weeks to get all the roads open again. anyone without some groceries set back could be hungry any winter in the north.

  16. We don’t recruit either but do pay heed to the comments of those folks that voice their opinions openly. We are open in our distain for liberals, died in the wool far left thinkers, and the misinformed. Many years ago I decided that I wasn’t going to be silent as those type of folks said whatever they wanted to. It galled me that they just assumed that everyone else thought like they did. There’s a saying that covers this issue: ” You cannot open the eyes of someone pretending to be asleep”.

  17. The best thing is to keep quiet and observe your friends. Doing this will help you to see who will be open to what you have to say. If a friend asked in general what can they do to prepare for a disaster you can say look it up online. You can tell them you usually can find almost anything you want to know. You can even give examples of what you looked up in the past that were not prepper related this way you don’t paint a target on your back. In time you can pretend that you started getting ready the same time as them when in fact you have been getting prepared for awhile. Just be sure the person is not known for being a blabber mouth.

  18. You Don’t!

    After years of The Look I don’t bother any more. Most people I know think I’m a little touched anyway and I just leave it at that. If they haven’t seen the light so be it,

  19. Christine M says:

    I will continue to make suggestions to buy extra because of rising prices, etc., if it’s a plausible continuation to a conversation. Doesn’t hurt to plant a thought and it only takes a minute. It is their choice to take it to heart or not. My siblings in this area are onboard.

  20. Two years ago, I purchased ten 5 gallon buckets and began filling them with different survival items to have on hand during a disaster. I included printed copies of “lists” and medical aids. Probably invested around $20 per bucket. Of the ten neighbors closest to me, they took the bait and it mushroomed into where they now have more ample preps. Some have spent more than I can and purchased some nice items to aid them during a disaster. Our little cul-de-sac feels a little safer now, and it helped our neighbors get to know each other better. I know not everyone has the $200 to give away to neighbors, but give this some thought. Better to point them in the right direction, than have them all show up on your doorstop. Education of the masses is a win-win for everyone!

  21. Madasahatter says:

    We don’t throw out the ‘prepared’ word, too many negative connotations.

    We “buy in bulk to save money. You can save a lot if you try it along with couponing. It’s one of the only ways to get by these days.” It’s that simple. And something that everyone can understand.

    We have “a gun” because “we’re worried about home invasions, did you read about that one that happened over on [such and such made up location]. I heard about it from my barber. Aren’t you worried about breakins? I could give you some recommendations if you like, we took a class on self defense.”.

    We have a garden because “have you seen how much they want for tomatoes and lettuce?!” and “All those pesticides aren’t good for you know. You see all those ambulance chaser commercials on tv right? It’s so easy to do, you ought to try it.”

    • Good idea!

      Lot of people out there that will never care about survival skills or camping gear but a far greater proportion would be receptive to saving some money. Showing the savings from buying on specials and bulk items for the long term is IMHO a much more palatable approach for the willfully ignorant.

      Not everyone can be reasoned with though. I have a friend I used to work with in a warehouse some years ago, who bought 2-3 cans of pop (at $1) per shift from the vending machine. This is a hand to mouth kind of guy with a kid, who has on more than one occasion while asking for loans lamented that he’d have to go to the payday loan shop if we didn’t help him out. (I was content to let him lament all the way there in the hole he dug himself). I showed him that he could save something like $1800 a year if he bought a case of pop to keep in his car and bring some in each shift (this was without sales or coupons – paying full freight like a sucker). This was too much effort for him and the vending machine continued to justify it’s existence. Some people just can’t be taught.

      • MorePooperThanPrepper says:

        Too bad for his kid. Young single people have the right to be as dumb as they want (hell, I could of won a national dumb contest in my 20s). But when you have kids its time to start wising up. No money, payday loans, and daily vending machines… ugh.

        Hopefully that kind of stupid skips a generation.

  22. I tend to use situations that are more realistic to people that dont prep. if i had a minute to talk to someone about this the first thing i would bring up is losing your job. i would say, what would you do if you didnt have a job for 3 months and you were the only person in your family with a job? go on food stamps? a lot of people with normalcy bias might not want to hear it or blow me off, but its worth a try. and if they do, thats ok. another thing i would say is that even in a local emergency, emergency services would be rare at best, and there could be less doctors, police officers, and medics around. they would want to be with their families too. you cant trust a public service in a true emergency, so its always best to have some extra supplies on hand. i read that after 3 weeks without food, people would resort to cannibalism. can someone back me up on that? i dont know if i can trust it since i read it online. right now, thats my main motive to prep.

    • Hi Madison: I don’t know about three weeks specifically, but history is full of times when people resorted to cannibalism. I think few committed murder in order to eat the victims, but they did eat people who had died.

      If the disaster was so intense and so widespread, I suspect there would be a fair number of bodies already around. It has a high “Ick” factor, but if one’s kids hadn’t eaten in three weeks, the neighbor died this morning, and there was no relief in sight, I think a lot of people would do it. Plenty have in the past under those circumstances.

      I think your talking about losing a job is a good one. It is both realistic and can be long term, much longer term than most natural disasters. When people say you can just go on food stamps or whatever, it is also easy to say you prefer to rely on yourself instead of the taxpayers. Of course that might just be seen as a criticism of those who plan on relying on the taxpayers….

  23. I generally don’t openly mention my preps to anybody. However when I moved here 18 months ago( very remote area of a far north state) to be closer to my life long friend after my wife passed, My friend helped me move. He couldn’t help but notice the amount TP and 5 gallon buckets that he was handling. He made some rather rude comments and mocked me a bit. Well as time has passed I found that he is actually a much bigger prepper than me. He has preps stashed all over their house. He is better armed than I could ever hope to be.

    Funny how that worked out

  24. Having read these responses let me say that even when you get the ” whatever” looks or the” your nuts “look you have still have planted a seed. My sister for year just gave us those looks and we couldn’t upset her normalcy bias that everything was fine and nothing bad could happen.
    Then she changed jobs . She now talks to missionaries on a daily basis . Talking with them with the groundwork we had already laid has made it click . Now she preps .
    Me I’m 49 and started prepping when I was 15 ( it wasn’t called that then) . All it took was reading the decline and fall of the Roman Empire and drawing parallels to our country . Don’t be pushy but drop a seed now and they. Remember the ones that you get to prep directly or indirectly are the ones you don’t have to shoot of your porch and they might come in handy if your preps get destroyed .

  25. I been a Survivalist for 26 years, I’ve learned that you can’t get people to wake up about 99 percent of the time, it’s not really productive to even try. When they are ready they will come to you, if not in the end when it’s too late they will wish they listened.

    All you can do is sew a few seeds and hope one of them germinates in their dense heads. People have been plugged into the Matrix since birth, they will fight you to stay enslaved, they will call you a conspiracy theorist, it’s just a waste of time to give them what they don’t request.

    There is an old Chinese Proverb, it goes something like this:

    “If a man is thirsty offer him a glass of water, if he is still thirsty offer him another glass, but when he no longer thirsts don’t offer more water.”

    So offer them the information, if they ask for more give it too them, but if they don’t want it anymore then you did all could, move on.

    “How can you tell others about the need to prepare without making yourself a target for unwanted visitors in the future?”

    You can’t really, what are you going to do lie and say you are not preparing then tell them too? By choosing to try and help others you compromise yourself every time you do it. They may not even show up and try and take your preps, but for dinner they will tell that FEMA CAMP official everything they know.

    Tell people you trust a place to meet you, but tell no person where your preps are ahead of time, or how much you are prepared.

  26. mom of three says:

    I don’t talk to anyone, about what I do they won’t think I’m nuts, but they have grown a custom to the 24 hour grocery store, or Walmarts, so why buy and keep so much. All of our neighbors, and friend’s, known I bake and can so it’s not a surprise that I have 25 pounds of sugar and flour hanging around. Last year I gave a box of apple’s to my neighbor, they all said they would eat them, or make applesauce I saw my box empty by the garbage can, I went to retrieve my box
    and just to see I open the garbage can, (it’s a lawn and food garbage can) I had just mowed the lawn, the day before and my whole box of apple’s on top of the grass clippings. So I don’t share information, or will share fruit again.

  27. When I do talk to anyone I use the economics angle. Food cost has gone up over 38% the last two years. The extra I bought 2 years ago and eat today cost less. The food I buy today and eat in two years will be cheaper then what I will buy in then.

  28. Chuck Findlay says:

    I don’t tell others, it’s a lost cause as sheep want to be sheep.

    And like most here I long ago got tired of the line “I know where I’m coming if anything ever happens.”

  29. Stealth Spaniel says:

    I have used the economic angle many times. The stupid replies that I have received include:
    -I don’t have a lot of room in my kitchen
    -I don’t have a lot of time to plan anything out
    -I’m not big on cooking.
    I assume that they are all big on eating, as they seem to do that quite well at my home. So, I do not say anything anymore. The sad thing will be their pets. (Really, you can’t even stock up on dog food???!) My dogs split 3/4 ths a cup into 2 meals everyday; per dog. I still have at least 5 sixty pound bags of Orijen in reserve. And that doesn’t count the rice, dried green beans, and dried beef chunks that are stored up for them. I see me feeding starving pets who had no choice over people who were deliberately unwise.

  30. I often have visitors who end up seeing my pantry. If they comment, I simply remark, “If there is a big snowstorm and the roads are closed for a week, do you think delivering a truckload of food to me and my six kids will be a priority for anyone? ”

    I do have to note that OPSEC is pretty much a joke when you live on a small farm with your milk cow, chickens, a big garden and all. I just keep saying things like…Food prices are getting really high, GMO stuff scares me, I have always wanted to live off the grid, have you heard of permaculture, being self sufficient has always been a goal, geothermal is great but the wood stove will still heat the house if the power goes out, yeah I have a generator – the sump pump won’t work without electricity. I assume that the dough-heads will only consider whatever piece of the puzzle they are presented with. Those with brains are already aware of current world events and are doing their own prepping at home.

  31. MorePooperThanPrepper says:

    I’ve been at it 10 or so years. I figure my family is good for 6 months to a year with food – close to 1,000 lbs. dry grains and beans. Maybe a lifetime of hunting / intruder ammo (probably a lifetime of prolonged gunfighting too – but only because I’m not likely to come out the winner).

    Yet, not even my own my wife or kids have ever heard the word “prepper”. Dad just likes to stock up like the settlers, he’s odd that way, but he’s a good cook and he keeps the grocery bills low.

    Remind me again now, what’s the difference between OPSEC and clinical paranoia?

  32. We are considered the odd ones, we live in a remote area but not too far from major cities. All our friends think that we prepare because of where we live. I let them think that. I did talk about it a few years ago. But when I heard the “I know where I am coming” I shut up. I also offended a friend that felt useless because she didn’t have any skills. It was exhausting trying to explain that she could learn or that I could teach her. I just shut up and now if anyone brings the pantry/stores up, I just tell them that these are hobbies that I enjoy, we are planning on retiring in the future, and we are trying to live simple now. The vagueness is enough to bore them quickly. We have also gotten very good at hiding our supplies.

    “Nothing to see here, these are not the goods that you are looking for.”

  33. I don’t talk about it to people and relatives anymore, since they think I am wacco, living on the edge of the wilderness with dogs, eating nuts and berries. I post annonymous on line to those who are already interested. If they have no sense at all the possibilities of what’s coming, they have no sense in listening…. and when disaster comes, they will raid my place first.

  34. Curley Bull says:

    As most of you know, I teach disaster preparedness so my OPSEC is not the best. Also as I’ve mentioned before, no one really knows what I have except for a reputation of not being someone you really want to push. I’ve been a prepper most of my life. We can in the summer to have vegetables in winter and smoke, cure, can meat in winter to have in summer. I was raised by an older generation that went through the “great depression”. I was also taught their values. No one leaves my fire on an empty stomach. Ask for it and if I can afford it, it will be given you. Try to take it and you may end up getting a Christian burial. Like BC and many of you, I do what I can to help others, especially the elderly. Sometimes I think being a substitute at the high school is my ministry. I’ve managed to help several young people over the years, but some you just can’t help. I learned several years ago working with Vietnam Vets, you can’t help someone unless they really want to change. As far as preparedness goes, I’d had 300 people sign up to attend and only 50 would show up. You do what you can and move on. Don’t dwell on the losses. Be thankful for the successes. Sometimes I get depressed over it and just want to throw my hands up and say to H —- with it, but then I’ll think, what if I can get to just one more . . .

    Be blessed and keep on keeping on. As “you-know-who” would say; “buy more ammo”.

    Bull
    I Timothy 5:8

  35. mountaingypsy says:

    Like someone basically said, “sheeple will be sheeple’. It is strange to me, that most of the population seems to think, nothing will ever happen to disrupt their life, or if it does, the govt. or friends or their church will come running to save them. These days few people seem to think, you are supposed to be responsible for yourself and your own family, no one else owes you that. My parents generation, like many here, were raised to take care of their own, and it just seems natural to me. The ‘prep’ word is a label, that to many apparently means someone is weird, like ya’ll have commented. Being ‘prepared’ is a better label, that just means you have the common sense to have food or supplies put back for that rainy day, which means any disaster, by nature or man, or job loss, or illness or bad luck or whatever. I never understood, the people that go to the convenience store for every loaf of bread, chips, drinks and never have anything at home. That is really pathetic. There are too many natural disasters lately, that should remind people to prepare. Now with the world wide crisis perhaps coming to our shores, how can so many people still be dense? Just a few extra items is better than nothing. There will be a lot of sorry souls that will not know what to do. “We” are the smart ones, but will have to decide who if anyone will be helped. They had just the same opportunity to prep as us…..

  36. I don’t even try anymore. If someone chooses to prepare, let them figure it out. The only person I ever had a concern about showing up at my door after the balloon went up now thinks I’m barely hanging on by a thread, and I fully intend to keep him thinking that way.

    Anyone else asks me, I tell them to Google the word ‘survival preparedness’ and let them figure it out. It’s not like the information isn’t out there. The only other person I’m concerned about is my longtime girlfriend, and she’s gradually accepting that having some emergency supplies isn’t a bad thing now. While her pantry isn’t as well-stocked as I’d like, at least I won’t have to work double-time to make sure she survives. Her mother, surprisingly, is so much better prepared to weather a storm I was surprised. I had to do some minor fix-its at her house and my mental calculator told me she’s got over a year’s worth of food alone, along with pretty much everything else she’d need to get by, and this was merely because she likes to shop more than anything else.
    If I’m ever quizzed, I just tell ‘em I want to be ready in case we have another ‘October Surprise’, which was a local blizzard event here in ’06. Once I say that, they grunt, nod, and drop the subject.

  37. I know I am a it late commenting…but the simplest solution is generally the best. I would bring the “Conflicted” card game to game night. :)

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