Eternal Salvation and Survival

This is a guest post by Billy

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labor for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto Me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto Me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you” -Isaiah 55:1-3 [KJV]

Without doubt we all know that these are turbulent, tumultuous times with violence, treachery and all manner of evil that is growing exponentially. Reading The Survivalist Blog has been helpful to me and my family with all the informative reports, reviews and articles regarding the many facets of survival and prudent preparations, some of which I enjoy passing along to my family, friends and neighbors.

As a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ and as a patriotic American and former military man, by the grace of God, I see life and that which is transpiring before us today through a biblical world-view. There’s no need for me to convince you readers of this outstanding web-log that it is a good thing to set aside, to stock-up and to prepare for hardships or for “rainy days”. As history records it is a good thing to remember how men of God of long ago such as Noah, who was a “preacher of righteousness” (II Peter 2:5), obeyed God’s warning and prepared for the flood. So too did Joseph, who was warned of God to prepare for seven years of famine while he was Pharaoh’s second-in-command in Egypt. It is written for our admonition, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel” (I Timothy 5:8).

While we would agree that temporal preparations are a good thing for this life time it is my prayer that you’ll seriously think upon matters regarding eternity. Our physical life upon this earth is so brief. My grandmother, who I named Mimi when I was a little boy back in the early ’60’s, passed away recently at the ripe old age of 103 years old. Though she lived so long a time on this earth it’s not even a ‘drop in the bucket’ compared to eternity. The holy scripture says, “For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: but the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you” (I Peter 1:24-25).

I submit to you the following holy scriptures and short commentary for your prayerful and serious consideration.

“It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.”
-Psalm 118:8-9 [KJV]
“Salvation is of the LORD.” -Jonah 2:9c [KJV]

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My word, and believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” -John 5:24 [KJV]

Dear neighbors, the “Good News” gospel message that is here proclaimed unto you is that Jesus Christ the LORD was sent by the Father to effectually & fully SAVE poor, needy, wretched sinners by His own sovereign FREE grace and by His perfect righteousness charged to our accounts!

Regarding this “so great salvation” by Jesus Christ alone please consider the following words of wisdom,

“Salvation is of the LORD” (Jonah 2:9c), entirely so, from beginning to end. It is God’s “great salvation,” in its origination, in its effectuation, in its application and in its consummation. Man contributes nothing to it whatsoever. All the Trinity are concerned and engaged in it. The Father is the Author of salvation from sin, Christ the Purchaser, the Spirit the Conveyor. It is the Father who begets the elect (James 1:17, 18); yet they are declared to be the “seed” of Christ (Is. 53:10), while they are “born” of the Spirit (Jn. 3:6).” -The Satisfaction of Christ, ch. xii, by Arthur W. Pink

“The gospel is no other than a pure promise, a free declaration of peace and pardon, righteousness, life, and salvation to poor sinners by Jesus Christ. The sum and substance of it is, that “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners” (1 Tim. 1:15). -The Doctrine of Imputed Righteousness Without Works, by John Gill

“Christ died for the UNGODLY” (Rom. 5:6). God’s righteous grace comes to us through the law-honoring, justice-satisfying, sin-atoning Work of the Lord Jesus! Here, then, is the very essence of the Gospel: the proclamation of God’s amazing grace, the declaration of Divine bounty, altogether irrespective of human worth or merit. In the great Satisfaction of His Son, God has “brought near HIS righteousness” (Isa. 46:13). -The Doctrine of Justification, ch. vii, by Arthur W. Pink

“The miracle announced by the Gospel is that God comes to the ungodly with a mercy that is righteous, and in spite of all their depravity and rebellion, enables them through faith (on the ground of Christ’s righteousness) to enter into a new and blessed relation with Himself.” -ibid.

Friends, I tell you that Almighty God has, by Himself, worked-out and provided a perfect salvation for all those who do hunger and thirst for His righteousness. Salvation is NOT by what “church” we attend; it is not by what “good deeds” we do, nor is it by our tradition/s, our tithing, almsgiving, religious observances: it is solely by the finished work of Christ Jesus the Lord, Who is coming back one day as the mighty and conquering King of glory.

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Comments

  1. We were discussing obedience this morning at the Men’s Group breakfast. My belief is that God has a plan for my life, and if I live according to his will, things will work out for the best. I did things my way for 45 years and made quite a mess of my life and the lives of others around me. Since I’ve followed his plan, the bumps aren’t as rough, and the problems aren’t as large as when I was making the plan. Just what’s worked for me. We have free will, we can follow him or not. The consequences are ours, and all of our choices have consequences.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Excellent point, JP. Live your best life here and now, by walking with the Lord, and be prepared for the eternal life to come.

    • Amen JP — Romans 8:28

      And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose

      36 years of striving to complete my plan here so I hear you brother…thankfully, we are new creations in Christ, the old has gone and the new has come.

      T

    • Encourager says:

      Agree, JP, with “We have free will, we can follow him or not. The consequences are ours, and all of our choices have consequences.”

      We tried our best to instill this in both of our sons. Both were saved, or so we thought. Actually, when our sons became Christians (at different times and ages) each had a rather dramatic conversion with the youngest accepting Christ at a Christian conference. He said he felt the preacher was talking just to him about telling lies, disrespecting parents, cheating and stealing. He came out sobbing asking us to forgive him and telling us what had happened. He was 6. The oldest had a very intense encounter with the Holy Spirit at a youth conference near Toronto. He was a teenager. Both are not serving the Lord, and both express unbelief now. Breaks our hearts. I pray for them daily.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        I feel your pain, Encourager, I truly do. We stay on our knees for our children, don’t we?!

  2. HomeINsteader says:

    Amen, Brother!

    Acts 4:12
    Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

    HERE, THERE, OR IN THE AIR!

  3. Mystery Guest says:

    AMen!

  4. Amen. And thank you. I will have this to read and reread.

  5. Petticoat Prepper says:

    Billy,

    Thanks for the reminder that it is only through His Grace that we have eternal life. Sometimes I forget that and feel I’ve not ‘done’ nearly enough to qualify.

    In today’s world I do remind myself that He is in control. He has a plan. I don’t have to understand the plan; I just have to follow.

  6. The beauty of our American freedoms is the freedom to pursue whatever religion we want, or no religion at all.

    The number of atheists and Humanists in the U.S. (and correspondingly in the Preparedness movement) is growing. I agree that it is the “good deeds” we do that have ultimate meaning.

    Salvation is achievable every day. It has nothing to do with gods, it has everything to do with how we treat each other.

    • Dino,
      Indeed that is the beauty of America and I agree with your right and my right to believe as you will. Jesus would have it no other way regardless of whatever you think of Him.

      Just a clarification though, when you state:

      “I agree that it is the “good deeds” we do that have ultimate meaning.”

      to be fair to the article, to a Christian good deeds are nothing when compared with the work of Jesus.

      The Bible in fact says that to God our good works, if done outside of Jesus, are filthy rags and will be burned up in the end as if they never existed. Similar to the criminal justice system, we don’t get excused for our bad deeds simply because we do good deeds and that’s where Jesus comes in. We get something for nothing as a result.

      You may believe otherwise and as I said, I respect your right to do so, but it doesn’t appear to be what the post is saying.

      Thomas

    • HomeINsteader says:

      No, you can not save yourself, or me, or anyone else; and I can not save you, or me, or anyone else. Only the Messiah can save each and every one of us, but He will only do so if we ask Him to do so (actively seek His forgiveness and salvation).

      I would not want you to think otherwise, though it surely is a decision we are all free to make, “free will”. G-d is a gentleman; He doesn’t force Himself on anyone.

      John 14:6
      Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

      Ephesians 2:
      2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

      4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

      Proverbs 14:12
      There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death (he’s talking about eternal, spiritual death).

  7. Thank you, Billy. So easy to get caught up in the urgency of what’s happening (Feinstein is going to introduce her ban on guns tomorrow) and see the ominous grey clouds of desperate times ahead – and forget that He’s already there.
    Not only is He there, but He has purpose and design for what I see as hopeless. It’s not hopeless and it’s not all up to me.
    It’s pretty freeing to prepare as best I can, and lay it at His feet.

  8. bill & janet says:

    question for billy – DH & I have been discussing at length (from the biblical perspective) at what point do we “DEFEND ourselves” / how far do we go in defending each other, our home & all that is within it _ against those who would kill us for our food, guns/ammo, etc. — DH is a 20 years military retiree and a fairly new christian. with the current political “agenda” to ban our guns/ammo … the tyranny against our whole way of life really.

    • Also not Billy, but responding as my wife and I were just discussing this in light of the gun control issue. We both thought this was a good article on the issue:

      http://www.gotquestions.org/self-defense.html

      I always try to balance the idea of self defense and preparedness with Paul’s statement about to live is christ, to die is gain and the 1st and 2nd Commandments. If I am making saving my life an idol and putting it before God, I am doing something wrong particularly since dying means going to be with Jesus. If the Holy Spirit is telling me to do something and I am not doing it because of my concern over my life or my preparedness or anything really, then I am doing it wrong.

      Jesus could have destroyed the Roman legions with a word, but chose not to in order carry out God’s will. Sometimes He may call on us to submit as well. Its instructive that when the world is described as getting totally insane in the Olivet Discourse, when the problems are so big that there is no earthly solution, we are told to look up or lift our heads to God as our redemption draws near. Ultimately, no matter what we do, its only God who can truly save us.

      Homeinsteader has a good point as well with the OT quotes — God is unchanging by nature so He is the same God as he was when David and Joshua, great warriors, were around and will be the same when Jesus destroys the armies of the world in the end times. Total pacificism is difficult to support as a result, in my opinion.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        Now, that’s a balanced response, Thomas. Well done, Bro!

        • Thanks. Good posts by you as well.

          Quick question for you if I could and I haven’t asked previously. Why the G-d? I’ve noticed some people do that and wondered why?

          • HomeINsteader says:

            OH, boy…here we go again…

            I do work with Judeo-Christians and Jews in some ministries; I have contacts with both groups; the Judeo-Christians are Jews who have converted to Christianity, but Christianity does not displace their Jewish commandments or the “traditions” they were told to pass on for all time – Y’eshua/Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law, not to do away with it – He said so Himself!

            To think the commandments Holy G-d gave to the Jews no longer apply because of Christianity is, in my opinion, “replacement theology”; I want no part of it. Another way of saying that is I’m not about to tell a Jew, “you don’t have to honor that any more”.

            We have much to learn from the Jews, as much of the Word (particularly the New Testament) can not be fully understood outside the context of the Jewish connection (the “Jewishness” of the gospel); this includes the importance of being careful with the use of Holy G-d’s name, because He is THAT holy…most practicing Jews will not write His name out in full, out of a reminder that His name IS holy, and is not to be used casually. I like this! It’s a good reminder for me. Every time I write it out, I am reminded of His sovereignty…His omniscience…His holiness…way beyond anything my tiny mind can comprehend, and, yet, I do my best to Honor Him in all things…especially the use of His name. I am saddened by those who identify as “Christian” and yet casually flip off His name in ways that will bring them shame on judgment day. “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord Thy G-d in vain, for He shall not hold guiltless those who do”….it’s a commandment, not a suggestion.

            Then there’s the reason that it keeps me from messing up when I’m “talking” online with a Jew or a Judeo-Christian, and risk offending them by using His name in a way that seems inappropriate to them. I love my Heavenly Father more than anything else, and I do not want to use His name inappropriately; nor do I wish to offend the “Apple of His Eye” (Gen 12:3). I know other Christians who do the same, including on some of these blogs – some of them I know through our mutual ministries. I care. Therefore, I am careful.

            And now you know….

            • Ok, I understand. Thanks.

            • HomeINsteader says:

              You’re very welcome, Thomas. When I said, “Oh, boy, here we go again…” I was just funnin’ with you…I hope you didn’t take that in a negative way. If so, please forgive me for not communicating better.

  9. HomeINsteader says:

    What an amazingly beautiful picture of Him and our relationship with Him. Thank you, TinLizzy.

  10. HomeINsteader says:

    I am not Billy, obviously. I’m sure he will have a wise answer for you.

    The Word of G-d is quite clear: we are not called to be doormats. That scripture about “turning the other cheek” has been mis-taught so many times…it isn’t about being a doormat…it’s about using what we have already been given..in that case, “Jewish law”…but I can’t go into all that right now.

    So use what you already have. Defend yourselves from the moment the first threat raises its ugly head. “If G-d is for you – who can be against you”. Romans 8:31

    The Word is full of instructions from Holy G-d on exactly HOW we are to defend ourselves. Armor is an analogy frequently used to make a point, sometimes on the issues of the various forms of defense. Warriors are regaled in the Word, as they will be for all eternity. There are different classes of angels, and some are warriors.

    Please read Psalm 18, and pay particular attention to verse 34:

    34 He teaches my hands to make war,
    So that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.

    Note that the Psalmist is King David. Keep in mind that when King David was not out doing what he was supposed to be doing, making war, he got caught up with sin – Bathsheba.

    “Then it happened in the spring, at the time when kings go out to battle, that David sent Joab and his servants with him and all Israel, and they destroyed the sons of Ammon and besieged Rabbah. But David stayed at Jerusalem” (2 Sam. 11:1).

    At that time, it was common to go to war in the spring of the year. It was springtime. David was supposed to be out leading his troops in war, but, instead he stayed home. He was king; he could do whatever he wanted. And he did. He was not where he was supposed to be, doing what he was supposed to be doing – war! He looked out from his rooftop and saw Bathsheba, and sin was born. Do you think David knew she would be there? I think he did. Do you think Bathsheba knew what she was doing? Of course she did! Because David was not out making war, as he should have been, he found himself caught in a trap.

    Be careful that you are always in His will, always where you are supposed to be, doing what you’re supposed to be doing!

    The Messiah did His warfare in the spiritual realm; when He returns He does so as a Warrior King – He will utterly destroy all those who opposed Him and His Father’s creation.

    There are those who believe we are not to take up arms, we are not to defend ourselves, we are not to “kill” Understand the difference between murder and killing.

    Murder is taking innocent life, for no reason other than personal gain. Killing is to take the life of one who will otherwise take yours. I believe the Word of G-d clearly teaches the difference.

    “Thou shalt not kill” is incorrectly transliterated; it should be, “thou shalt not murder”. There is no confusion on G-d’s part, but there was confusion on the part of the translators.

    I urge you to read the Word for yourselves, pray about the matter, and seek His wisdom. I’m only sharing what I believe to be true.

    You must come to your own conclusions, of course. Please pray about them and Holy G-d will give you wisdom. James 1:5

    I have come to my conclusion on the issue. If someone comes for me and mine (and they probably will, sooner or later), one or more of us will meet our Judge. I’m ready. They’d better be, too.

    • Bless you, Brother!

      You speak THE TRUTH. and those of us who know “the way,” know that the truth is not a “thing,” but a person–our Lord and Savior, Jesus! “I am the way, the truth, and the life….”

      When I see the disobediance, sin, and corruption which has befallen my great country, just like Isaiah, I weep for it.

      Lord Jesus has just pulled me through one of my life’s most horrible events. It took four years and constant prayer, but He is the only peace in life; HE is my only salvation. It took ME four years to come to this TRUTH.

      God never changes–he is the same as he was, is now, and shall forever be. Goodness, love, peace and light.

      All glory and honor to God! to Him and Him alone!

      “…no king but Jesus!” ca. 1776

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      ken

    • Psalms 144 vs. 1 The Lord is my rock who teaches my hands for war and my fingers for battle. God bless Cowboy

    • Encourager says:

      Oh, Homie!!! Awesome statement! Best definition of kill vs murder, ever. The Bible is so clear that our G-d does not change; there is no shadow of turning in Him. If He does not change, then the Old Testament flows into the New Testament as it should. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not do away with it. I feel we are being led (personally) back to observing all of the Festivals that the Jews were commanded to do forever. After all, we have been adopted into the family of Abraham when we became Christians, not the other way around.

      If G-d has warrior angels to fight for Him (and us, too!!!!) then I do not think we should be sitting around expecting to be rescued but doing all we can…and when we have done all, to stand! Confident that G-d will then take over and bring all things to completion.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        Greetings, Encourager! You do well to understand that we were never told to do away with the observing of the Festivals; Y’eshua/Jesus Christ NEVER told His people to do away with them; in fact, Holy G-d instructed at the time each was instituted that they are to be observed FOR ALL TIME, not “until I tell you otherwise”. You are eons ahead of most Christians, if you understand this Truth.

        Let me tell you about the ONE warrior angel I can describe to you: he (very clearly masculine) was very tall; he filled the room (10′ ceiling!) from top to bottom; he was dressed in Roman military garb such as would have been common during the time of Y’eshua. He held a sword, point up (indicating ready for warfare). He stood in the corner of a friend’s hospital room for several days, not moving, keeping a watchful eye on my “friend”, a Brother in Christ. Why? Because a man on the opposite side of the wall had brought the enemy in with him. The Warrior Angel was a beautiful site to behold, but not what one thinks of when one thinks of “angels”. I sure wouldn’t have messed with him! And that’s how I KNOW there are “warrior angels”!

        • Wow, and to think Jesus could have called down an entire army of those angels to destroy His enemies and spare him from the cross, but he chose not to…….for us, for love.

          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

          John 3:16

        • Encourager says:

          I have had a few encounters with angels, also. The very first was when I was a pretty new believer.

          I was helping at a Christmas Bazaar at our church. My husband and I were also taking a weekly witnessing class. We were pretty much done, it was snowing very hard and piling up. We decided to start cleaning up as we had had very few customers in over an hour. One of the women looked up and said “Hello! We were just about to close up. We still have some lunch left, would you like some? Its free!” There stood this older gentleman, white hair and beard cut close, cleanly but shabbily dressed with socks and sandals on. A few of the ‘gossipy’ women started whispering to each other while staring at this man. He ignored them. We got him some soup and a sandwich and I sat down to talk to him. Since we were taking this witnessing class, I decided I could use some practice.

          I asked him if he lived in the area and he said no. I asked if he was visiting friends or family and he said he was on the way to the Veterans Hospital to visit someone who had asked for help. We chatted for a while and then I took a deep breath and asked him if he knew Jesus. He looked me straight in the eye and said ‘YES! I know him very well!’ He had the most penetrating blue eyes. When he said he knew Jesus, he bobbed his head a bit and his eyes twinkled. He then said he had better get on before the snow got any deeper. He turned and went up the steps. My friend and I looked at each other and said at the same time “Lets give him a ride!” We ran up the stairs and he was gone. There was no way he could have gotten out of the building so fast. Some of the men had arrived to help us tear down the tables. We asked them where the man went. They looked puzzled and said there was no man. They had been there for about 15 minutes and no one had come up the stairs. They commenced to search the building but the man was GONE. We went outside. There were no footprints going away from the building, only the footprints of the men coming into the building.

          Now for the goose bump part… A good ten years later, we were on vacation in the Outer Banks. We were waiting in a long line to go into a restaurant to eat. We had our 2 year old son with us. I heard a woman behind us say “Look at her sweatshirt, that is so cool!!” She was talking about my sweatshirt – on the back it said “Tribe of Judah” with lightning and storm clouds and some Native American symbols. A man walked by me and said quietly “Love the shirt.” I said ‘Thanks!” and he turned and looked over his shoulder and smiled. My heart about stopped. It was the same man who had disappeared at the church. Same penetrating blue sparkly eyes. I grabbed my husband’s arm and said “That man!” But he was gone. I have seen him a time or two since, or thought I had, but wasn’t sure as he was a distance away.

          • HomeINsteader says:

            Love it! Thank you for sharing, Encourager.

            Of course, he could have been your Guardian Angel. We all have them, as we both know (some are kept hopping a little more than others!). Be careful here, folks – they are not to be worshiped! Worship is reserved only for the King.

            Hebrews 13:

            1Let brotherly love continue. 2Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. (King James Version)

          • Millie in KY says:

            Definetly goosebumps! Wow, that is some story!
            My sister said she saw one, one day, her front door was open and one was on the front step. She said he was so big that he put his hand on the top sill to lean over and look inside the house. She said when she realized who/what he was, he was gone. I’ve never forgotten this story. I think he may have been your guardian angel, or even for some reason, you were allowed to see him for some hope in your own life that you might need to pull out at sometime in the future. Wow. Thank you for sharing this story!

            • Encourager says:

              Millie, I have a friend who had someone walk in on her when she was alone at home with her small children. The man looked around the kitchen and she said “GET OUT IN JESUS’ NAME!!” He walked out. It shook her so much that fear moved in. She could not sleep, kept hearing noises at night, got up to check out every one. It was a very old house and old houses make noises. Finally, after praying half the night she felt better. When she fell asleep, she dreamed there was an angel at every corner of her house. The next day she went outside and counted all the ‘corners’ on her house – there were over 18! And in the soft dirt by one corner was the biggest footprint she had ever seen. It measured over 14 inches long.

              About 10 years ago, we had angel sightings often in the church we served at. One was huge, his head brushed the ceiling. He had a lion head and mane. He would stand guard outside the pastor’s office. Many of the sighted angels were warrior angels, dressed in leather with shields and huge swords. They were always near the children. Not everyone saw them. Often you would be preoccupied and walk around a corner and there one would be. They vanished but you felt their presence.

              Homeinsteader is correct – NEVER, NEVER worship angels. That is idolatry. God sends them to his people to guard and protect them. Our church was in a poor neighborhood with a lot of drug violence and gangs. One time some members of a gang came into the building and asked who those big dudes were that we hired to stand on the roof and around the building. They were quite impressed by their size. They said they saw them during the day sometimes but always at night. The gang wanted those ‘dudes’ to know this was their territory. Our pastor wisely said he hadn’t hired them so they would have to talk to those big dudes themselves as he had no control over them. The reply? “No way, man! There’s death in their eyes!!”

            • HomeINsteader says:

              Want to know more about angels, their assignments, their relationship to Holy G-d, and to us? Start here:

              http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-Bible.html

            • HomeINsteader says:

              If you want to dig even deeper on the subject of angels, try this site: http://www.truebiblestudy.com/Angels.htm

  11. kitchengirlgte says:

    This is the main reason I am part of this pack, because I believe that Jesus sent me here to help me prepare for what is coming. I read this blog because it reminds me that other Christians have been called to prepare as well which makes me believe even more that Jesus is telling me to get ready, not that I am just being paranoid. Thank you so very much for having the guts to stand up for Him.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Don’t be surprised, however, kitchengirlgte, if other “believers”, especially family, don’t get used by the enemy to attack you and question your values, your beliefs, your actions. If they don’t attack, then, you must not be doing anything! : ) Just be ready, Sister. It will come. Stand your ground. And come to us when you need “refreshing”. I’ve had family members, people whom I know to be fellow Christians, call me crazy, tell me I ‘scare them’, yadayadayada…..what they really mean is, “I’m afraid you might be right’. Just keep that in perspective, dear one.

      • nobodyssister says:

        What you describe sounds like my parents. “We don’t need to prep because the Rapture will come and we’ll be gone before the Tribulation comes and it gets really bad.” Sigh. Mom, just because the Tribulation isn’t here yet doesn’t mean it can’t get “really bad” nonetheless.

        I can’t quite bring myself to tell them I’m a preterist, but that’s another story.

        The other thing Mom says is, “We don’t need to store things up because God will provide for us.” Gee Mom, you suppose maybe God gave you a daughter that preps?

        • HomeINsteader says:

          nobodyssister, please read my post below, dear one. I hope it helps you in some way. Just keep doing what you believe you are called to do, as you believe you are called, stay in an attitude of prayer, give Him worship and praise, and the rest will follow. While it breaks our hearts to see family members making what we think are “wrong” decisions, ultimately, it’s not between you and Mom…it’s between Mom and Holy G-d, and I assure you, dear lady, Holy G-d can handle Mom. If you must worry (and we can’t seem to stop, can we?!) worry about the things you can make a difference in; pray for Mom, speak the truth but speak it in love, and Holy G-d can handle the rest.

          Blessings to you, and all that is yours,

        • Nobodyssister —
          I agree with you about the pre-tribulation terrible possibilities, WWI and WWII come to mind, but I would suggest that you try to keep in mind Roman 12:

          For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: (NKJV)

          If God is not calling them to prepare but to look for the Blesses Hope of His Glorious Appearing then they should not be doing anything else regardless of what would appear wise to another. If God has called you differently, that’s awesome, but it doesn’t mean that is the path for them. Perhaps their gift is in the faith department. Nothing wrong with trusting God too much.

          My Pastor is a good friend, a humble man of God and one of the wisest people I know. He sees the evil that is in the world and that more is on its way, probably more than I do, but he focuses on studying and teaching the Word rather than anything else. That’s his job and mine is different.

          Thomas

          • HomeINsteader says:

            Excellent point, Thomas. This is why I stated in another post that we are not all called to prep.

  12. MountainSurvivor says:

    And a 1/3rd of the “grass” will be burnt up. Wormwood, another name for affliction, will come screaming from above with it’s over 3-mile wide body and the after effects will wreak havoc for several months. Smoke and darkness combined with great heat, no ability to grow food in such conditions, and earthquakes and tremors tagging along behind it. Seeing is believing, many people used to say. Events will happen because G_D knew that those who had heard but were not convinced might, with such evidence, then believe the Truth. The earth will reel on it’s axis and walk like a drunkard and growing food could become very difficult. So why not stock up and be prepared with food and water. The time is at hand.

  13. Hi neighbors ~

    Much appreciated y’all’s comments and I salute the web-master for publishing “Eternal Salvation & Survival.” All glory, honor, praise and thanksgiving be unto the Lord Jesus Christ, “so great salvation.”

    Bill & Janet: good question. HomeINsteader brought up some swell points. Please feel free to write me at The.LORD.be.magnified[at]gmail.com and I’ll send you back sound biblical reasons why it’s not merely a “right” but a God ordained “duty” to be armed with all lawful intent. It’ll be the same thing I have passed along to my own family, neighbors and former Team-mates. Looking forward to communicating with you folks.

    Trusting the Lord God Almighty to continue to be gracious and merciful; to protect and provide for His people in Jesus Christ the righteous.

    The BEST is yet to come!

    Respectfully,
    Billy

    -ex U.S. Naval Special Warfare operator (Disabled, Combat Veteran)

  14. Son of Liberty says:

    I find the discussion on this topic interesting and refreshing as various readers struggle with the concept of personal self-defense.

    Not to laboriously discuss this matter I will note but a few things. First, great churchmen throughout the ages have struggled with this issue, and it was Augustine who was credited with the compilation of the ‘Just War Theory’ in which the perimeters of those various elements which constituted a just war — as later acknowledged by the church. Good stuff regardless of his personal or theological background or church affiliation.

    Second, the framers of our Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution realized that we had an ‘inalienable right,’ given to us by Almighty God, to defend ourselves and those we love against violent aggression and tyranny. That is the foundation of the second amendment, and our laws which recognize that inalienable right of self-defense.

    Third, I see a large body of Christians beginning to recognize the Lord Jesus Christ is returning soon, who hear his clarion call to prepare for…(whatever befalls), and who realize that prior to his second coming we as Christians will go through tremendous persecution. It is in light of those truths God has led me to write the book, “Discovery to Catastrophe,” which deals with Christ’s soon return. A fiction interwoven with biblical truth, it will appeal to individuals interested in Christ’s second coming, the apocalypse, prepping and survival, and Alaskanna (as the story occurs in Alaska).

    It is already touching lives and helping a number of people to see the need of prepping and getting ready (physically & spiritually) for some of what we are facing in the near future.

    Blessings in Christ Jesus

  15. Billy,

    Perfectly written and powerful verses as backup. Prepping for whatever lies ahead is solely for the body and the mind and should never take center stage over our spiritual prepping. I think for most of us it is our spiritual condition that is leading us to prepare for a rather certain but also unknown future(earthly future). If it were not for that still, small voice in our ear telling us to prepare we would be like the vast majority of citizens who have no idea that anything is wrong. Just give me my phone!

    I am certainly happy to see all the Christ like responses, it does an old heart good. As far as the question of how far, being a Christian, should we go in self-defense I figure when/if the time comes the Good Lord will not desert me then either and I will go with His guidance. I’m certainly not going to be looking for a fight and will share whatever I have with as many as possible.

    Again, wonderful post and responses. May God bless and keep you all.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Oldokie
      Sometimes I feel like this is a burden I must bear. I am a rational and rather common individual. Why do I have this compulsion?
      If I tell anyone about my prepping they look at me like I have 2 heads. If I die, I go to heaven so why do I feel the need to do this?Is it possible that there is something else going on or is it just an over-heightened sense of self preservation? I have no voices in my ear and I am not delusional. So what is it?

      • recoveringidiot says:

        G-ma
        “If I die, I go to heaven so why do I feel the need to do this?”
        That is a question I have as well. I believe God gave us all the instinct for survival but here in the land of plenty we have forgotten what it means to actually have to work at just surviving. I fear God is going to knock us down for what we have become. Does it not appear America is becoming the new Sodom and Gomorrah?

      • HomeINsteader says:

        read my reply below TGMa – perhaps you will find an answer.

      • Encourager says:

        Tactical G-Ma, ” If I die, I go to heaven so why do I feel the need to do this?Is it possible that there is something else going on or is it just an over-heightened sense of self preservation?”

        This has run through my head, also. I have prayed about it and feel that I am to prep as best I can not just for me and mine, but for others as well. What I mean is, if I (or my whole family) is gone – because of the Rapture or because we have died – then there will be supplies for someone who G-d will direct to those supplies. Or they may be stolen. But they will not be able to disregard that everywhere they turn they will see reminders of Jesus and what he has done. Perhaps it will be what saves them – the silent witness of what we leave behind, not just food or meds. Or perhaps it will be left for my sons, neither who seem to be Christians anymore.

        I just know that it was that still small voice in my ear and heart that told me “Bad times are coming. You need to prepare. Obey Me in this!” So I have and I am.

        I believe I read somewhere a long time ago that the USA has not been identified in prophetic scripture as one of the nations in the very end times. With the way our country is declining, I am starting to understand that.

      • G-Ma,
        First let me try to explain what I mean by a “still, soft voice”. I do not actually hear a voice in my ear. But, to me it is very similar to a voice in my ear. Not a raging sound or angry or frightening sound but a small soft loving urging. I’m no learned theologian(don’t even know how to spell it) but I believe it is my conscience urging me to do these things and since I am a Christian the Holy Spirit uses my conscience to interact with me. It’s like you say you have this compulsion. I just call it a “still, soft voice” because it is to me. I don’t think God does anything in confusion. I am certainly the last person to be telling you or anyone what is causing the compulsion or what it is but in my humble opinion, to a Christian, a compulsion or urge to prepare for a coming disaster is a complusion or urge straight from the Holy Spirit.
        Yes, when we die we will go straight to heaven so why try to set extra supplies aside. Well, if we die with preps leftover who knows how many people it will help after we are gone and maybe someone will see the goodness of God in the preps that were found.
        Well, I am just a very simple man(and old) and I never have been able to explain myself very well so I hope I have not offended you or anyone with my words.

        Take care everyone

  16. I’m glad this topic was brought up. For me the greatest example of the grace of God in the bible is how he dealt with Elijah. Without going into too much detail and sounding like a ‘conspiracy theorist’ I see a great parallel.

    Ahab wanted something that wasn’t his. He wanted a vineyard that belonged to his neighbor Naboth. He tried to ask nicely for it but Naboth, under no cicumstances, would sell his family’s vineyard. So Ahab killed him and took what he wanted.

    The parallel I see is the American government wants things. They want more and more of the freedom’s we hold dear. If they can’t convince us to give it up freely they kill for it. Look at all the freedom’s we lost because of Waco, Oklahoma City, 9/11 and possibly Sandy Hook.

    Elijah was a man of God and sent to tell the king he needs to straighten up. The king didn’t listen so God withheld the rain for 3 years. Elijah then escaped into the wilderness where he had a bug out shelter and lots of food right? Nope. He had nothing.

    Read 1 Kings 17 and see how good took care of Elijah for 3 years. His bread and water was sure. God wanted to Ahab to ‘humble’ himself before the Lord. God wants America to humble themselves also. We have become a nation of idol worhippers. The arrogance of our nation will only bring us suffering.

    As much as we prep and prepare the most important preparation needs to be with the heart and mind. Get right with God. Follow Him and do His will. No matter what happens in a SHTF scenario God will provide for you. God bless everyone.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      I agree with you, that G-d always takes care of His own. Sometimes, He is very specific with His children on their exact roles in that process, other times, He is not. When He is specific, we do well to obey to the letter; anything else is disobedience, and is always followed by “discipline” (to teach), with His correction. We don’t always like G-d’s correction, do we?! But He always acts in our best interests, even when we don’t like it for a season.

      However, that has to be tempered with understanding that He does not act in the supernatural until we act in the natural (that which He has already given us). This goes back to the scriptures of Luke 6:29; Matthew 5:39; these scriptures DO speak to G-d’s heart on the issue of “retaliation” (Vengeance is MINE, saith the Lord” – emphasis added), but they ALSO speak to something you rarely hear taught, as well.

      There are many scriptures that can not be fully understood without the Jewish connection, and these scriptures fit that category.

      The audience here are all Jews, or raised around the Jewish community enough to know Jewish law. There were laws for everything, we all know that (it’s no wonder they couldn’t always remember them all!). But the law in effect here had to do with the legal way to respond when someone commits SPECIFIC affronts to you; under some circumstances, you had the LEGAL RIGHT to strike that person on a certain cheek to show your disfavor and to exact your legal “vengeance” on that person – this would have been a GREAT insult, and the recipient was expected, under the law, to take the just punishment and not retaliate in any way. But the law was VERY SPECIFIC. The “offended” could only legally strike the “offender” on one particular cheek; should the offended strike on the wrong cheek, or strike on both cheeks, the offended then became the offender, subject to the law.

      What’s the principle at work here? USE WHAT I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU.

      I am not encouraging anyone to go out and strike somebody on the cheek who has offended you in some way. Pay attention to the message here (in our culture and under our laws, that will get YOU arrested!).

      What I am trying to convey is this: all knowledge is a gift of Holy G-d (James 1:5). I believe because all knowledge is a gift of G-d, when we fail to utilize those gifts of knowledge, we lose. We are to use what “gifts”/knowledge He has already provided, even working within the confines of existing law AS MUCH AS IT DOES NOT OFFEND THE LAW OR THE WORD OF HOLY G-D – when there is a conflict, G-d’s law and Word take precedence – no contest – but we are to use the tools we have in the natural, BEFORE WE EXPECT HOLY G-D TO TAKE OVER IN THE SUPERNATURAL.

      If that’s true, then prepping is something we have learned and can do in the natural. When our efforts to do what we are able to do and what we know to do IN THE NATURAL have exhausted themselves, or if they fail for whatever reason, it is now time to give praise and worship and thanks, and wait on the Lord for His supernatural intervention. It’s not an attitude of “well, I’ve done everything else I know to do and everything else I’ve done has failed, so, guess I’d better pray now”..no! no! no! (I do hear that from people – no wonder they are defeated!).

      We begin in an attitude of prayer (meditating on His Words and seeking His will), we remain in an attitude of prayer, we do what we believe Holy G-d is leading us to do, when and how He leads, and then we wait on Him to show up, to demonstrate His perfect Will and His perfect ways as only He can do! And He will. Every time.

      So, I propose to you that prepping, for those who are called to do so (and not all are) is doing what we know how to do in the natural, as we wait on Holy G-d to take over in the supernatural.

      And now I offer you a second reason why we (Christians) need to prep: even if we are not here, someone will be – and it just might be someone you knew, someone you loved, someone you tried to reach with this gospel message…and there is yet time, as hard as things will get. They will need what you have prepped, even if you don’t. Is this not the ultimate demonstration of your love, even when you are gone? Will this not convince some of them? They need to survive long enough to make eternal decisions and, hopefully, lead others into doing the same.

      I hope I have clearly communicated a very important precept here: “Do what you know and are able to do in the natural, all the while preparing (by praise and worship) for Him to show Himself, and then, Holy G-d takes over in the supernatural”.

      OH, and don’t neglect those Bibles (lots of them!) in your preps.

      • Encourager says:

        Okay, HomeINsteader, I now have Holy Ghost bumps all over me! There is definitely a G-d thing going on here. I had not read this post before I posted above. You have just confirmed what I wrote – that prepping may not be for you after all. Whooooa!!

        Pack, those of us who are Christians need to prep Spiritually as well as physically. Let’s make sure we have messages of love from Jesus tucked around what you think someone may go after. It reminds me of the book series “Left Behind”. Many people believed because of what was left behind for them to find.

        • HomeINsteader says:

          I couldn’t read this last night, E, as no electricity, but I am wearing a great big ol’ smile right now, Sista!

      • Jesus his eyes where on the unseen, and his trust was totally by his Father to whom he was faithful all the time. Jesus always did the work of his Father, so should we.

        Many people do not fully value the ransom of Christ and diminish his action by making him god. We should follow Christ Jesus his teachings and try to be as him a faithful son of God, trying to do the work of the Most Highest here on earth.

  17. F.B. Ross says:

    A famous Navy Seal once said “Organized Religion Is A Crutch For The Weak Minded”

    • F.B. Ross,
      Religion doses not equal salvation… You have to be saved, baptized and live a good life based on the teaching in the Holy Bible. Sorry sir but I could not care less what that Navy Seal said, pertaining to my faith. I will not have to answer to him on judgment day.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        GREAT answer, MD.

      • Encourager says:

        Agree, M.D. I do not want anything to do with ‘religion’. I want everything to do with my relationship with my Jesus.

        Religion IS a crutch. Because it is all about man and what man thinks G-d is. G-d sent His Son Jesus to this earth so that through the Blood of the Lamb we could reconnect to G-d the Father, because He loves us and wanted a RELATIONSHIP with us.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      That argument has been used for thousands of years, along with a few others.

      I am NOT “religious” and consider it an affront. I love the Lord My G-d with all my heart, soul, mind, and spirit. I do what I do because I love Him. And He blesses me every hour of every day. I would not care to walk through this life without Him (been there – done that – miserable failure).

      Please don’t confuse “religion” (the Pharisees had plenty of religion, and Y’eshua/Jesus Christ called them ‘a pit of vipers’) with love for our Holy G-d and His Son.

      Hebrews 9:27 – it is appointed once for a man to die, then comes judgment.

      Psalm 14:1 – the fool says in his heart, ‘there is no God’,

      I’m ready. My prayer is that you will be, too.

    • When you find yourself quoting re-packaged Karl Marxisms, you may want to check where you stand.

    • Your famous Navy Seal is in good company with Marx and Lenin. Since he’s so famous perhaps you can enlighten us as to his name.

  18. All,
    The Lord EXPECTS His children to protect their possessions and family over whic He has given us authority. Genesis 14 retells the capture of Abram’s nephew Lot. Abram marshalled his forces and recaptured all possesions and Lot. Then Abram gave a portion of that to further the “truth”!!! A wonderful example of BEING prepared to protect, defend, and regain what G_D has provided and placed into our hands.
    Ps.1:1, Mark

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Excellent point, Mark. Now, you see? This is why we need each other! No one of us is wise enough, or has enough intellectual capacity, to retain all the info we need to retain to cover all pertinent points on any given subject. Thank you!

  19. Thanks Billy. With the rush of daily survival it helps to have a reminder.

  20. Thanks for the message.

    “Recession” to most people means taking away and diminishing…but the second meaning is to restore to the original owner. Since God gave me everything to which I am grateful, I resored what was His by giving back. I am in recession, a good use of the word.

  21. Millie in KY says:

    Another boring hour at work and then I can leave to go to a meeting with our local representative to see what he has to say about gun control I wasn’t going to go but they are trying to pack the hall so I am going.
    I think I am at peace in using a firearm to protect myself but am not sure as to protecting food. If there is non, then I think I could My problem is that I have a very giving nature. It’s going to be very hard for me not to help someone who needs it badly. I guess I will have to judge each situation as it comes up. I think this bothers me more than anything else about prepping. I can see arguments both pro and con. This might be something I will defer to DH about….

    • Encourager says:

      Millie in KY, in that situation, deciding what to give and who to give it to, then it is time to pray and ask for Wisdom. The Word says the Father will give Wisdom to whomever asks for it. While you are at it, ask for discernment. With wisdom and discernment you will be prepared.

  22. HomeINsteader says:

    Millie, I believe common sense will prevail for you, dear lady. It is good to have a giving heart; I think most folks here do. There will also be times when you’ll want to use what you have for bartering – that thought should be part of the prepping plan. But you ALWAYS need to engage in OpSec – because if you invite someone into your home, share food with them, when the going gets really tough, you may find out they are willing to KILL YOU to get what you have….the game will not be nothing like it is today. Please keep that in mind, and you might just live long enough to help someone else.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      “the game will be nothing like” (obviously didn’t read my post carefully!) – oh, dear…do I have to take English all over again?! ; )

  23. Hunker-Down says:

    I think the answer to the question, ‘do I shoot or not’ is found in the following questions;

    Do I have a responsibility to protect my spouse and children from harm?
    Do I have a responsibility to feed my family tomorrow?

    “Feelings” should not enter into the discussion.
    We have a responsibility, or we don’t. We shoot, or we don’t.

  24. Encourager says:

    Billy, thank you so much for this wonderful article. Sometimes I get so bogged down with ‘doing’ that my priorities get messed up. I get tunnel vision. Your article was like a breath of fresh air. It re-confirmed to me what is important. It is all about G-d, all about Him.

    I listened to this song this morning by Mark Condon and it, again, blessed my socks off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCxdItivTfQ
    I hope it blesses the Pack as well. May the peace of G-d cover you like a warm blanket.

  25. Well put-thanks for the purifying promise of Holy Water during a long drought- ..Amen Arlene