A few days ago, I received an email from a reader, asking about the possibility of government food confiscation after a collapse or natural disaster if the president were to sign a declaration of Martial Law.
After all, what good is storing all this food if the federal government is going-door-to-door, confiscating and redistributing it to those it deems less fortunate and more deserving than you?
Anything could happen
Forced redistribution of wealth and food confiscation is a valid concern, considering the mentality of the population and more than a few high-ranking government officials. Anything could happen.
However, I don’t envision this happening on a nationwide scale, at least not at the individual level. There is only a slim chance that they (federal government) will come to your door with an order of food confiscation.
I think you’re more likely to see this happen to food distribution businesses and large farms, than to the individual hoarders or survivalist. Going house-to-house searching for individual food stores, would be manpower intensive and dangerous.
I’m sure, if food were scarce enough to warrant such forays those doing the raiding would face lots of resistance and their share of dead jackboots.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it won’t happen, it very well could. What I am saying is that food producers and distributors will be the most likely target.
That is where the bulk of food is produced, located and least likely to show resistance. Control the resources and you control the people needing those resources.
Keep a Low Profile
If you’re concerned with governmental confiscation, it’s best to keep a low profile. If they don’t know, they’ll have no reason to target you.
If possible buy your storage foods with cash thus avoiding a paper trail. Or use an alias and secure shipping address when placing an order. Most importantly don’t tell everyone about your food storage or how deep the larder.
Dispensing charity
I’m not a big fan of dispensing charity after collapse, least-ways not at first. Dispensing charity, if not done very discreetly can put you and your family in harm’s way. It’s best if everyone thinks you’re just as hungry and poorly prepared as they are.
Give charity to one and the next day they’re back for another handout, likely bringing along others as the news spreads about your free food pantry. If you feel obligated to help others, be very careful not to draw attention to the fact.
What do you think?
Is your food storage at risk from government confiscation? What precautions if any, have you taken?
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This is not really much of a concern to me as I live in an isolated part of a largely rural state. That being said, there are certain things that you just don’t allow to happen. I am not rambo nor do I have a death wish but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand and say you will not cross. The government taking food out of my childrens mouth that I have devoted years of my life to procure is that line. In the unlikely event that this ever takes place, I will not comply.
I’m not much worried about government confiscation of my pantry. I think raiding of farms and orchards would be a big concern, as is the threat of looters.
Charity. Yes, and as much as I can give. But I’ll give through my church so my family and my personal security isn’t endangered.
I agree about charity through a church or other central location. That way, all donations are anonymous.
The majority of “churches” in this country have long ago been infiltrated by those who now openly serve the Beast while claiming that their evil is done in God’s Name. Back in the 1950s, a transcript was smuggled out of Hungary of the secret meeting of Communists posing as Jewish clergy, detailing their planned (and already begun) infiltration and use of religious institutions as tools to: declare all powers of the State to be legitimate God-given “Authority” by virtue of its very existence (ie: no tyrannical Regime which God permits to rise to power is really as tyrannical as heathen Refusenik ‘conspiracy nuts’ claim, for God would have destroyed it, as He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, before it rose to power if it were); equate meek submission to jackboots from the State with a religious duty; and create the false fear that failure to rat out one’s brother to Big Brother would condemn the wayward Souls of such ‘enemies’ of God, and of those who would not ‘save them from themselves’ by turning them in, to eternal fire and brimstone.
I trust God, and ONLY God. I trust no man-made “church” of any kind!
This doesn’t concern me either. I think what you said about door-to-door food confiscation being unlikely is probably pretty accurate. It would be a large operation, and if the dookie is flyin’ that bad, the government will most certainly have other things to worry about.
Also, I don’t think they would get much out of it. If they searched one square mile of a suburb, how many “preppers” are they likely to come across? The risk would not be worth the reward.
If anything, they will be coming for our guns. The resistance will be harsh, with heavy casualties on both sides. This will just turn the fan on high speed, but they won’t care. It’s probably part of their plan. Hell, they probably even have a graph showing acceptable losses of government forces.
Good luck to you all……….
It’s probably more of an urban and suburban issue – and the confiscation of food (and weapons, ammo, etc.) does worry me.
First and foremost is OPSEC; do not let people know you’re stockpiling food. This includes neighbors, church members, co-workers, friends, relatives, etc. If you’re part of a preparedness type group, different story.
Second, if you’re really worried about his, conceal the food as best as possible (denial). I’m a big fan of small hidden spaces behind false walls. It’s hard to bury things in an urban environment, but a garden in the suburbs is an excuse to have freshly dug dirt. The next part of this is to have a hidden but fairly easy to find cache in your home (deception) that will cause searchers to think they’ve found all your food.
On charity, I think if things are really bad and you can do so w/o putting you/your family in danger, it’s imperative. This might be leaving it at a church in the middle of the night, or on the doorstep of someone you know is in need. But IMO it’s absolutely necessary, unless you can’t do so w/o being discovered.
They’re forcing everyone to have medical insurance so don’t for a second count the government out to take what ever they want from us. It will first no doubt be the guns and after that they can take whatever they want. I would hide what ever I could and leave alittle out for them to find and take. I would also make sure my bug out place is well stocked. After what I’ve seen or the lack of protest from the people over this health care issue,I doubt if I will be very charitable towards anyone unless they have something of value or skill. Anyone that is naive to think this will be anything but a life or death situation will not last long. Lock and load people, this might not be far off.
I don’t believe in charity to strangers. I don’t expect it and I won’t give it. There is no way you can quietly give charity to anyone and then not expect everyone to know about it and come looking for more. I would possibly “adopt” relatives, stray kids, good people with skills, etc. and bring them into the homestead, but joe-blow the crackhead could just keep on walking.
I don’t think the government would confiscate you food, but if word got out that you had food, the mobs of your neighbors would come to burn you out of everything you own. Which is another reason not to give charity at all – you can never give food anonymously – everyone is going to see you going to the church with your food and giving up one 5 gallon bucket won’t do anyone any good. Keep it for your “family”, that way they’ll be more ready to defend your home from intruders.
I KNOW that they would take food if they decided that they wanted to. I used to work with the feds.
Rich – You’re right. I should have said “I don’t think the government would confiscate MY food”, because I live in a normal house on a normal street, and NO ONE KNOWS I have any extra food. If I had a farm or a business, I would be very worried, the government will take their food in a second. If the government tried to search house to house nationwide, they wouldn’t have enough people to search and provide security, because the revolution/civil war would be on big time.
Jack, we’ll have to agree to disagree. On charity, to me it’s a moral imperative, again with the caveat that it can be accomplished secretly. To say it’s impossible to give anonymously is, in probably most cases, simply false. In a true SHTF scenario, electricity would soon be gone or limited. The govt doesn’t’ have enough resources now to watch everything and they won’t then, either. It would likely be possible to drop off food at a church or other distribution center in the night when you cannot be seen. And use common sense; disguise yourself and travel in a very round about way (Google “surveillance detection route”). If not, don’t do it, pretty easy. On food confiscation, it depends on rural vs. urban/suburban environments. Rural probably not, otherwise probably yes. Depends on the specifics, but the chance is real if people are starving and food is being rationed. — SS signing out for the evening.
I’ve been to 3rd world countries with no electricity or running water where the people didn’t have much food. Most didn’t have cars or any communications either, and you better believe that the locals watch everything and know everything that is going on. In a true SHTF, when there’s no electricity or autos rolling around, I don’t see you living for long when the people see you hauling your charity foodstuffs through town to the church. I think you’d have more of a moral imperative to live and support your family, but hey, that just me.
well, I’m within a 3 hour drive of a city of 4+ million. I’m probably screwed. best for me would be if it happened in winter and we had a blizzard to close the roads
So am I but I am not as worried. Largely because most urban dwellers are sheep. They will sit in their apartments waiting for someone to save them or tell them what to do… and complain loudly when it all breaks down…
Look at the response to Katrina. For days prior the warnings had been going out. But people hung around to collect welfare cheques or refused to believe it would happen. Inertia will keep that vast majority of those 4 million sitting right where they are when the SHTF. They have no plan, they don’t know where to go, and they will stick with the devil they know….
I think confiscation is a real threat but not from the Federal government. When the SHTF it will not take long for local people to band together and “do what’s good for the community” Next thing you know some guy has declared himself sheriff and he’ll be knocking at your door, with a group of “deputies”. Keep a low profile. Bring your supplies home at night. Use a plastic rubber-maid tote to haul things in with. As far as charity goes my giving will be limited to my extended family. I have been unsuccessful in getting them onboard. They currently think I’m nuts but eventually they will be knocking on my door.
It will never happen to the individual as it would be impossible to track down each person and figure out what they have. Besides, the bigger fear is the small organized groups on the hunt to provide for their needs – good luck… lock and load friends, lock and load.
I agree with a lot of the above. Farms/Nurseries/Larger operations are at a definite risk, I think the Gov’t will have to seize resources or face severe security problems and even abandonment – foreign aid can’t be expected, if we collapse everyone collapses. I believe individuals are also at risk from government but on a much smaller scale. There are bad apples in every bag and a few individuals (FEMA, Red Cross, Military, Police) might get sick of MREs and decide to help themselves to your garden. Nothing takes your mind off disaster quicker than a good home cooked meal right? ;-)
Your biggest risk as a prepper/home gardener will be your community. The security of your retreat is a function of the security of your neighborhood. If your neighbors are starving, don’t count on hiding your preps, people are resourceful and have a tendency to put 2 and 2 together. Unless you’re fortunate, most of your neighbors will be unprepared. Mine are largely unprepared by my standards, but they’re salvageable. I have preachers, home schoolers, mechanics, radio hobbyists, gardeners as neighbors and they can all shoot, another potential plus or RISK. I want them around. I’m just one dude with a gun. So my solution was to prepare 3 month kits of staples to help them bulk up their pantry and buy them some time without dipping into my personal stock. I also keep an overstock of saved seeds and intentionally have an oversized compost heap to help them put in gardens. This cost of this is next to nothing compared to losing preps or even life. I also have identified local food sources (foraging) and plan on educating them as much as possible so they can care for their own and still have a little bit of dignity, feel secure, and not resort to turning on each other. At first I wanted to let them fend for themselves, but if they can’t and the government isn’t there to help, they’re going to feed their kids one way or another. Theres 30 of them, one of me. I would much rather go the extra mile and make sure theres 30 of me.
Unless you live out in the boonies like Creekmore, this every man for himself thing just isn’t going to work.
“Look to the past to help predict the future”
1931-32 The soviet Union, in its zeal to modernize, created the collective farm system which included quota pars on crops that each farm produced.
Collected quotas were sold on the world market to help the “Workers paradise” modernize, at the same time starving the farmers that had toiled to produce the insane quota set forth by there “worker friendly” government. When quotas were not met troops were sent in to search, house to house, for hidden crops. Whenever a stash was found the male occupant was executed, on the spot, no questions asked, any other occupants were stripped of their belongings and put out on the street, the dwelling was in most cases, set ablaze.
Fast foward to huricane “George Bush hates black people” Katrina.
I can find no stories that state that food stuffs were confiscated , there are however hundreds, if not thousands of stories of weapons being siezed thru “door to door” searches. There is no way to to predict what else may be deemed “reasonable” by authorities to “confiscate”.
Charity.
Charity is a luxury that is exercised by reasonable men in reasonable times, self preservation should be exercised at all times but most importantly in unreasonable times, any act of charity, regardless of how small will be looked upon by desperate men as weakness and mark you as prey.
This may seem cold and “un-Christian” but the fact is that most Christians that are starving aren’t too Christian…and that brings us back to the Glorious Soviet Union circa 1932. Mothers make the choice to starve 1 or 2 children so the rest of the family can survive. Stories of wide spread canibalism turn out to be exagerated… ah.. a little.
The point is the agarian/rural portion in one story and the city dweller in the other were both subjected to the same disperate treatment by their respective governments. The men who carried out these orders in one case may not have believed that what they were doing was right but the did what they were told because the knew if the didn’t, they would be on the recieving end of their own harsh treatment.
In the other case, from all accounts most of the men conducting the house to house searches were willing volenteers and IMHO simply there to exploit an already bad situation in order to fill their own coffers with ill gotten gain while at the same time feeding at the government trough. Party! Bonus!
Maybe I should have just said It could happen, its happened before.
Jerry
Interesting about weapons being confiscated door to door during Hurricane Katrina – is that really true?
Most all of my guns are legally registered and, in California, you must also disclose the make & model of your safe – could be a national thing, don’t really know.
My fear is the State or Federal government has this information and can pinpoint who has what and if times were really nasty, this could be the first line of control for the Feds.
Hmmmm, maybe my safe will get broken into in the future & its contents stolen…
WITWCT,
yes it is true. Look on youtube for katrina weapons confiscation. Then google it as well.
Yes, it is true that weapons were confiscated door-to-door during Katrina. One 80+ year old woman made national news when she was beaten down- by cops- and her ancient single action revolver was confiscated.
It will happen again, in AnyTown, USA, unless we put a stop to such foolishness at the first indication of action.
About food stuffs being taken- OPSEC is primary, no one should know about your preps. However, I do see the census critters (just to name an obvious group- there are many we don’t even suspect yet, such as even some church groups, etc) who will come to our homes, be allowed entry, and take note of anything- ANY thing- that looks “untoward” and make reports of it.
These days you have only one person you can trust on this planet. Keep everything to yourself.
Shy III
I never knew the Feds came door to door like that, a big thank you to you and Jim! I will plan accordingly.
This group sharing of ideas & info is a great benefit for complete preparation.
In the story in the Bible of the 10 virgins who were waiting for the bridegroom to come to the reception, 5 of them ran out of oil and the other five didn’t share but instead went in and shut the door. This story is told by Jesus himself and is a warning of end times, that we don’t the time and we better have extra oil set aside. I am setting aside for my MIL, parents, and such.
well, on any given day I’ve got 40 tonnes of whole corn and 5 of small grains on hand. And each day my cows are producing 500 to 700 litres of milk. I think I can afford some charity in my community. If I’ve got people on my side, willing to help protect what we’ve got, then I have a better chance long term
Jerry, you are so right. It has happened before, and it can happen again.
“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” – Santayana
History shows that your desperate “Christian”, “Buddhist”, “Muslim”, “Atheist”, and “Pagan” neighbors will all take what you have and feel righteous when they do it because you had the audacity to have more than them. The only two things that will stop them is your good OPSEC or the use of power. The power of law works today, the power of arms will be the only thing that may work after SHTF.
I’m more concerned about desperate people raiding my stores. I firmly believe in tactical deception and one way to protect your supplies is to let them think they found it all. All of my older food and items that have been “rotated out” are hidden to be found. The real stash would be a challenge for them to find and in more than one location.
Confiscation could be possible. While attending a gunfighting school, I met a bible toting man from southern Missouri who claims that when Katrina hit, National Guard troops came to his business and took pallets of bottled water for efforts in New Orleans. The business owner stated that he needed these supplies for his business and the soldier replied that he needed to be more patriotic and assist the suffering people who were needing help. He said he did not recieve payment for his supplies until a significant later time. The man could have just been full of crap…..but he was a respected man of the community that was literally carrying a bible everywhere he went.
Hmmm. I live in Arizona. Good timing on the gun bill currently in our legislature:
“The Arizona House has given preliminary approval to legislation that would make Arizona the third state in the nation to allow adults to carry concealed guns without permits.
The legislation would allow any U.S. citizen 21 or older to carry a concealed weapon in Arizona without the permit that now is required. ”
I hate seeing guns in the hands of criminals, but I firmly believe in the 2nd Amendment, and our right to bear arms. Might soon be a necessity.
Which are the other 2 states? I can’t afford the class and such for CC.
from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States
it looks like Alaska and Vermont go easy on guns.
It costs us maybe a total of under 200, for our c.c.’s. in Ohio. I don’t know where you live, but moving can cost thousands.Cheaper to get the c.c..
I would not put it past the government to confiscate anything they want – guns, food, property – in the event of a “national emergency” or martial law being imposed. Good OPSEC about your provisions, guns etc. is the key first step in keeping your stuff, as well as caching of vital provisons, guns and ammo.
One person who replied said that there is no way for anyone to know how much food you have. This is not true. Whenever you use a Costco or other big-store card, or for that matter any other supermarket discount card, the amount and types of purchases are recorded. Same with credit cards. Any information is retreiveable by anyone who deems it “necessary to national security” in times of trouble.
Remember the three steps to totalitarianism. They are happening now here is our country:
1) CONTROL THE MONEY (national bank, TARP, AIG, Wall Street bailouts, loss of 30% of IRA savings for most Americans, 16,000 new IRS agents with the Health care Bill, etc.)
2) CONTROL THE FOOD (corn being used for ethanol, govt telling us what we can or can’t eat, lies from the Dept of Agriculture and FDA)
3) CONTROL THE GUNS (just look at what has happened UK, Australia, the past Katrina gun confiscations, U.N. International Arms Control Treaty now being negotiate by that liberal progressive marxist bitch Hillary, liberal right wingers and even cops ignoring right-to-carry laws)
Remember what President Ronald Reagan said, “When Government Expands, Liberty Shrinks.”
Make sure to get out there in November and vote.
I see a lot of people are disparaging others who might come and take what is theirs. This brings a question to my mind. I know we all want to be moral and good people, but prepping is all about “what if”, so:
If for some reason you find that all your preperations are gone, be it house fire, government confisgation, natural disaster that you escaped, but your prepps didn’t, anything else you can come up with. What do you do then? Do you find others who still have and take? Do you lie down and give up? Do you get in line with all those who didn’t prep and put your hand out for whatever is willingly given?
What is your “plan B”?
s
Very good and intresting question!
Plan “A” should have been to “not keep all your eggs in one basket”. THEN go to Plan “B” and start from there.
Shy III
Jack, I lived in a third world county for almost three years, and been to a dozen or so TDY. Depending on where you are, people there do watch things more carefully, but they have a lifetime of experience at it.
As far as putting my family in danger, not sure what part wasn’t clear so I’ll just repeat myself; “On charity, I think if things are really bad and you can do so w/o putting you/your family in danger, it’s imperative… it’s absolutely necessary, unless you can’t do so w/o being discovered.“
I think it might be a good idea to have a hidden stash in several places, because the likelihood of someone confiscating it is good. It might be officials, or it might be that you could just get caught off guard by looters.
I myself wrote anonymous letters to neighbors and friends and told them they had better get prepared for hard times ahead,and told them why it was necessary. I gave them info on what they should stock up on.(dry goods),etc..Maybe they did it, maybe they didn’t. At least I told them not to depend on the charity of others because it probably wouldn’t be there.
My family comes first. We do not know how long our stores will hold out, nor how long we will NEED them to. I will not help others and then later watch my loved ones starve to death because we ran out of food.Sorry.Family first. I know that’s a really tough decision, especially to see starving children, or elderly, etc., and I would probably help them with foraging, or fishing, etc.,if that’s even possible. Who knows. Teach them to plant gardens and home can now, before SHTF, if possible. I think it might not be a bad idea to have a couple of good strong people that we could feed in exchange for some added protection.Stock some extra just in case.And trust no one.A relative could turn on family in favor of starving friends.Scary, but true.
I know you didn’t mean it literally but here is a website that you can use to see how long your preps will last, incl. how many people you’re counting for. http://www.foodstorageanalyzer.com/CalReqTrial.aspx
Emergency Essentials has that too,I think. Thanks.
Concerning gun confiscation during Katrina, see the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_Recovery_Personal_Protection_Act_of_2006
The Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006 was a bill introduced in the United States Congress intended to prohibit the confiscation of legally-possessed firearms during a disaster. Its provisions became law in the form of the Vitter Amendment to the Department Of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2007.
One of those rare occasions in recent history when congress did something like this.
Right, SS- that act was a direct result of Katrina, as I recall. The NRA was pretty instrumental in getting it passed (much little good as they do, they got this one right).
Shy III
I am not sure if it was Andrew Jackson or Thomas Jefferson who had commented on a Supreme Court decission in opposition to his/theirs
” Well, fine. Now lets see them enforce it”.
I have seen laws broken, by those who were entrusted to enforce them, with impunity. I put no faith in “feel good false security” laws.
How many people have had their weapons returned from katrina?
Nagan lost his case. The state said he was to return all confiscated weapons, his response, “we can only return those that have not been destroyed, or those that we are certain of who the registered owners are and are still in the city or state”.
In the begining they were issuing reciepts for confiscated weapons, that lasted for only a few days.
In one of the Youtube vidieos done by the NRA, one of the “victims” states he requested a reciept for his weapons and the response of the uniformed criminal was ” we don’t have time for B***S*** paperwork”.
I am aware of only 3 instances where the weapons were returned to their rightful owners. This is not to say that there are no more than 3, just that I am only aware of 3. The condition of the returned weapons ranged from poor to “a stick of rust”.
Don’t misunderstand me S.S. or Jim, both of your points are valid in a legal sense, but “legal” in my experience only applys to those who have been indoctrinated from birth to follow the rules of society, that the legal system works and is there to protect the innocent.
Its funny, in almost every aspect of life those of us who play by the “rules” are the ones who are kicked in the teeth by the very system meant to protect us, and even when we know, and can prove, that the other side has cheated, not only do we lose in that instance but we are castigated and made to feel guilty for pointing it out!
The most disheartening point of this is we still pick ourselves up, brush ourselves off and CONTINUE to play by the rules with full knowledge that we will be cheated again. We cling to an ideal that sooner or later we will receive our crumb of victory in a bakery of deceit. ( hey, thats a good line even if I do say so myself)!
Lastly, D.C. lost the Heller v. D.C. case, is D.C. allowing handguns to be sold now? You are both aware that Heller was turned down, AFTER he won his case, for a purchase “permit”? I have a feeling that you are aware, you gentlemen seem to be on top of your game as far as the 2nd A. is concerned. (That statement is NOT scarcastic, I get the feeling that both of you are supporter of the 2nd A. and keep up to date with pending legislation).
To sum up, it’s not so much the law, but how, or more importantly when it will be enforced or ignored.
Sorry MD, didn’t mean to pull this off track.
Jerry
From todays news “Federal judge upholds D.C. gun regulations; appeal expected”
Again, the law only counts if you play by the rules, those rules change daily because we are no longer a country ruled by law but by men.
That Federal law was passed in 2007, but in 2010 local governments were still using bad weather as an excuse to ban weapons possession:
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=5452
My guess is the county or city govts who tried that (NC or SC?) will find it was illegal, if anyone bothers to sue them over it.
To Stuart the Viking, my plan B is going to my stocked bug out place. That’s where you keep your back up supplies. Should be enough stuff to hold you for awhile and get you back on your feet.
After a tornado occurred in Arkansas several months back, our friend told us that her friend experienced FEMA taking all but 30 days supply of food from her and hundreds of people surrounding her to help those in need after the storm had hit. Put the food in mylar bags with tight-fitting lids, remove the metal handles and hide them behind hidden walls, under floor boards and other places which cannot be accessed readily nor found by metal detectors should ‘anyone’ get wise to what people are doing. I’m just about ready for what could happen soon because the health care bill has gone into effect and now there will be thousands more that will be jobless. My friend, a UPS store owner, told me two days ago that if the health care bill goes through she will have to work the store alone after letting her worker(s) go and it’s because she won’t be able to afford the required health insurance fees which, I hear, are going to run at least $1200 a month. Looks like we may be heading into third-world conditions but if we are smart about this, we will remake our country without any government but it’s going to take the wise people to help it go well. The states have decided to challenge the bill and I think it could turn things around so I hope no one gets too depressed about this. Things can and will change, prayer works when we truly thank God first and then make our request(s) known to him (this is how the bible has instructed us to pray for anyone who is interested). It’s true that if you give to one then more will come and they will expect all that you’ve got and when you are out and have nothing you will be totally alone. I know this is true as I have experienced that very thing and what you have said really is the way people are. Right now, most people in the United States know they should have a supply of food, water and survival things on hand and, well, if they don’t then they will suffer just as well as we would had we not prepared therefore don’t feel too bad for those who didn’t take things too seriously until after the fact. Know that they’ll have to figure things out no differently than we would have to. If there’s a community with some farming land then that would be a little different as the community could work together to grow an have near-sufficient food to feed everyone closest to them. Our president is a Muslim and some in the Muslim world have recently stated to ‘us’, “America, prepare” and “America is the reason that their Mhadi (leader/messiah) has not returned and that this country must be destroyed before he will come back”. Anyone that has or will join them will, because they are not of their bloodlines, be killed after they are done with them and anyone that will not submit to them/worship them will be killed sooner. Osama Bin Laden said, back in a 1990something video done by a PBS reporter, that ‘they’ are going to plunder and pillage America. Well, with the president in there and he is one of them, he spent lots of our hard-earned tax money we gave to the government and everything he says is a lie, plundering and pillaging is continuing to happen to us. It’s not too late as yet but they have their goal and we better watch out, they like to chop off heads. Not too many weeks past, a group of them went in and chopped up and murdered 500 Christians in Nigeria. The removal of all Christians and anyone who knows what the bible says, they want gone and that’s because they don’t want the truth to be known about who they really are and that they are doing this to take over the entire world just as they did and offered all the kingdoms of the world to Jesus back in the day. The bible says to pray that we are found worthy to escape those things that about to come upon the whole world.
A quick reminder that a lot of the companies that sell prepared foods cannot send them to Canada – this includes all grains. So check carefully beofre you order.
at a guess I’m gonna say you’re in southern Ontario.
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i live in a place where the people still know how to take care of themselves…and for the people that are unable (elderly, ill…etc), our values will insure that they are taken care of by the rest of us. my advice would be, move yourself and your family to a place where people still have christian values and choose to take care of themselves rather than collect welfare. there are still places like this. as for the gov coming to get our guns and supplies….it will take many, many gov. jackbooted thugs to accomplish this, my guess is they will carry away more body bags than guns or supplies. just look at a little bit of history, they came before and tried to take away something as simple as moonshine, and more than one of them became a foul smell coming from the back 40. good luck and remember when the time comes, join up with likeminded people….”power in numbers”
SrvivlSally, do you have any links about FEMA confiscating food in other situations? This is the first I’ve heard about FEMA doing that, but I appreciate the heads-up.
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