Friday miscellany

 Friday miscellany

Nationwide ammo shortage so severe that even cops can’t buy bullets; ammo rationing imminent : “Thanks to outrageous Sandy Hook fear mongering by the mainstream media and political operatives like Feinstein, Obama, Cuomo and others, the American people have been rushing out to buy up every bullet, every rifle, every handgun and very nearly every gun-related product in the country.”

Obama Executive Orders on Guns Would Spark Mass Resistance : As the Obama administration openly vows to use unconstitutional “executive orders” to further infringe on the right to keep and bear arms, gun rights activists, members of the law enforcement community, military personnel and others are pledging to resist. Everything from an armed uprising and nationwide civil disobedience to legal means of resistance like the courts and nullification is being openly discussed online and even in the establishment media.

USA 10th For Global Economic Freedom In 2013 : “Since reaching a global peak in 2008, the WSJ and Heritage note, economic freedom has continued to stagnate.”

The Federal Government Hands Out Money To 128 Million Americans Every Month : “The number of Americans receiving money directly from the federal government has grown from 94 million in the year 2000 to over 128 million today.”

Couple facing $500 a day fine for home garden in their own yard : “According to the Florida chapter of the Institute of Justice, Jason and Jennifer Helvenston will be charged fines of up to $500 a day beginning Jan. 10 if they don’t follow orders to uproot a garden that they say is helping sustain them.”

Wyoming Lawmakers Propose ‘Gun Protection’ Legislation : “Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.”

Comments

  1. This gun shortage has been affecting us up here in Canada too. A few weeks ago I went to my local Canadian tire and I cleaned them out of CCI stingers, their last 525 box of Federal 22 LR, and 100 rounds of American Eagle .223 FMJ (all they had left). I’ve been back to the store several times and they have not as yet replaced any of it. Probably because nothing is coming up from the states, who supplies us with most of our ammo.

    It’s insane.

    The one thing we do have up here in spades is military surplus 7.62 x 39, so I think I’ll go buy another couple thousand rounds of that….

    • riverrider says:

      good move.

    • Mike,
      Not being snippy or anything with this question, but really interested. 7.62×39 is generally use in an AK or SKS type platform. I thought these were unavailable in Canada. Am I just ignorant (and it wouldn’t be the first time) or is there another platform for this cartridge?

      • Rob in Ontario says:

        Ohioprepper– we can get SKS’s with the fixed box magazines limited to 5 rounds – I don’t know about AK’s I have 5 round mag’s from Tapco I can use in my SKS- and here I paid only $225 for them ammo is about 25cents for FMJ
        Mike where abouts are you located?

        • Rob,
          Thanks for the information. Seems the laws up there are not quite as bad as I had been told.

          • Rob in Ontario says:

            OhioPrepper yoru very welcome- here in Canada we just threw out laws about long guns having to be registered– people can still get m-16/m-4’s but they need to have a restricted licence- here we apply to the gov’t for a card we carry in our wallets that we show to buy ammo or weapons if you have a restricted gun licence your allowed to get all normal guns like lever action pump shotguns or the restricted weapon your wanting to get – hand guns are also restricted but not toatally out of the normal persons reach to own – so we only have to show our card to the dealer to take the ammo or gun that day

        • Hey Rob.

          I’m in Southern Ontario. Near Hamilton. You?

          Ohio, you can also get a CZ. While it’s not an AK it’s pretty darn close! I use the 7.62 x 39 for my SKS.

  2. Wally world has been cleaned out for the past few weeks. They have some 30 win mag and other hi end ammo and some shotgun ammo .The only 22 they have is wmr and shorts.I bought a box of 22 shorts for the heck of it.They have 12 20 and 410 gauge on hand.A local shop had some aguila 500 round bricks for 45 dollars.They were a yellow package I am not sure of what they were as far as bullet weight and etc.I found out that a building supply place sell ammo about 30 minutes from me. I have no idea about inventory though.I may check them out sunday.

  3. Mystery Guest says:

    If indeed law enforcement agencies and military personnel are against what Obama is doing maybe the light at the end of the tunnel is still on.

  4. Tactical G-Ma says:

    I want to comment on 3 of these issues.

    1. I said it before. The IRS bought more ammo than I did.

    2.DH and I get Social Security. But we paid in an estimated $360,000 in FICA in our lifetime. We also get Medicare because we pay $115. Ea per month for it or our Tricare for life will not pay.
    We each get checks from the military retirement/ VA. But we spent 25 years making less than half what our civilian counterparts did in exchange for the lifetime benefits which keep shrinking each year. And moved every 2-3 years to boot. So I am sure that at least two of us earned those govt.checks.

    3. I understand people wanting to maintain property value and in the burbs landscaping is a must. But I admire the couple for trying to change the law. I believe everyone should grow vegies and fruit and a garden in the front yard sure beats an old car up on blocks.

    • Petticoat Prepper says:

      Tactial G-Ma,

      I can’t imagine anyone grumping about you and DH getting the retirement money you earned. I for one don’t bemoan anyone who’s paid into the system and then gets it back. I do have an issue with those who’ve done nothing, paid nothing, and get everything.

      • Petticoat and Tactical G-Ma,

        The problem is that the word “entitlement” is used to cover both welfare and social security. Many young people think social security is welfare for old people. It has to be explained to them that social security is a retirement program that the federal government forced folks to buy into.

        • Tactical G-Ma says:

          PP and Bam,
          “The Federal Government Hands out Money” is incitement. My own son thought he was paying our way. There are powers who are doing their absolute best to polarize Americans. The is just another way numbers can be made to fit an opinion.

          I know you all are savvy enough to know the truth but this sort of stuff engenders hate and anger against all recipients. And it tics me off especially when people want to take away what so many of us are due.

          Ok. I am now stepping off the soap box.

          • Tactical G-Ma,

            I fully expect that by the time I am old enough to get social security, they will make it need-based and not what-I-was-forced-to-put-in-based. My personal view is that we should end social security right now and pay back every penny folks were forced to pay in WITH INTEREST.

            • Bam Bam… My SS contributions started when I was 11… eleven. Give me annual market interest with.. hell unadjusted for inflation… and I’ll take the money and run to the bank… and hope to Gawd I get it cashed before the rest of the mob shows up.

          • I have the same issue with the term “entitlement”. Abused by our fearful DC leaders IMHO.

          • TGma I refer to tdl as the ray ban prez since he is so polarizing.

    • Tactical G-Ma,
      I have a kid sister that’s retired military and gets a pension check each month, while working a post military job and paying into the SS system. She had some sweet duty stations, but more than a few really crappy ones over her career, and every time I hear discussions of our politicos in DC “serving” their country (in DC), I want to toss my cookies. Except for the ones with previous military service, most of these folks have not a clue about service. Folks in the Salvation Army provide more real service than most of these ignoramuses.

      The article talks about the “dependence-creating programs” . . . like social security and Medicare, as if we who use these services (or will eventually use them) had a choice. By the time I retire I will have paid about $250K into the SS system (counting both mine and my employer. Who was sometimes me). If I could have invested that money on my own at a measly 4% it would be between $800K and $1M today, and I would need no help from the “dependence-creating programs”. If I decide to have my own private healthcare after I turn 65, it’s nearly impossible to get because Medicare and now Obamacare exists. I am of the baby boomer generation, and there are 13 more years of them behind me, most of whom will take back from the system a lot less than we put in, had the money been invested instead of legally stolen.

      I better stop here before I offend someone or get into trouble, but I think most of you get my meaning.

      • Plus 10……… can you imagin the ‘venture capital’ available today if the federalies had not pissed it away.

    • I bet your guns have killed less people then T Kennedys driving also

  5. Mystery Guest says:

    I am really beginning to wonder about this garden stuff. Is this only because it is in their front yard?
    I have seen front yards that are a blight and they were planned.
    Man I am glad I am an Arkie by birth I think his front yard is gorgeous.

    • Dean in Michigan says:

      Mystery Guest……..

      I’m guessing it has to do with particular neighborhoods. After working in some high end neighborhoods, I’ve noticed that most of what those people care about is what their neighbors are up to. They call the police over the most silly things, even landscaping.

      I keep my garden in the back, to keep from prying eyes. However, if people feel hungry, they’ll have to weigh their options against my 90 lb baby that will meet them at the gate.

    • I think the article said it was in Orlando. They have laws that mandate a certain percentage of one’s yard has to be sodded–they’ve got to keep things nice for Mickey.

      • It’s laws like that that we the people need to stand up against. We don’t need even more laws governing how we live our lives on the property that we bought and paid for.

  6. RE: WY lawmakers propose gun protection legislation –

    A ‘Firearms Protection Act’ – YES!

    Come on Texas…Tennessee…Montana…Idaho…everyone! Tell TDL what you think of their proposed gun laws!

    “God Bless Wyoming and Keep it Wild” – 1925, Helen Mettler’s final diary entry.

    God Bless Us ALL!

    • WYO Ryder.

      TN pass this a few years ago…

      http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/03/tennessee-firearms-freedom-act-passes-both-houses/

      Here is what the feds had to say about it…

      ATF tells Tennessee that a federal gun law trumps the state’s

      • MD,
        A federal gun law may trump the states; however, when all of the state law enforcement refuse or are ordered not to participate, the feds may have a real problem.

        • A buddy of mine who is x mil and leo now owns a gunstore. He told me that they do not have enough police to try a gun confiscation. They also don`t have enough people who would do it in my area,for now anyway.

      • Oh yeah, it could get real ugly (to put it mildly).

        Thanks for the link MD.

        PS off topic – (negative!) -21 degrees this morning …betting that JP in MT is even colder? This is the type of weather that will separate the ‘boys from the men’ if/when the SHTF. ugh…better check on the livestock again.

        • WYO Ryder:

          It was -5 when I went to bed. I just looked and it is -19 now (0830). Was probably a bit colder earlier.

          My DW parks across the street. Yesterday, the gal that lives there invited her to plug the car into her porch light! Good to have neighbors that care.

          • Tactical G-Ma says:

            WYO and JP,
            I lived in Grand Forks, ND back during the cold war for a few years. Last night the news showed blizzards. I do not miss that at all.
            More than once have seen the temps colder than 50 below F. I lived in Anchorage too and ND was the worst.

            • WYO Ryder says:

              Can’t imagine Tactical G-Ma – the coldest here since ’95 (when I moved up from CO) was -35 – lots of young horses came up with teddy bear ears that winter (from losing the tips of them-frostbite) ….days like today there is something said about Bam-Bam’s 83 degrees :-)

              Still, I wouldn’t live anywhere else.
              PS Nice gravatar pix and also +1 on Victoria S’s Petermccue.

            • Tactical G-Ma says:

              WYO
              Thanks for the compliment. DH and I saw the hats and ribbons at a kiosk at the BX so I had to show off a few of mine.

        • Wow, our high today here in Florida is 83 degrees.

    • The Boss just emailed me this gun owner map of Texas. Every orange dot is a gun owner…lol

      http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp36/tommy2rs/TexasGunMap.jpg

  7. I started reading a new book series called 299 Days. There is 10 books in the series and the first 4 are published but all have been written. It’s not often you’ll see me recommend a book, but this one I am having a hard time putting down.

    According the the authors website the book entails a soft collapse of this country vs an all out collapse like some of the other SHTF books. The first 60 pages or so are kinda slow but they really build the character of the main character in the book. I am a little over 3/4 of the way thru the first book and last night I couldn’t put it down. Finally at 4am I had to get some sleep (had been reading for 5 hours)

    The main character starts off as sheeple chasing the American Dream then he eventually wakes up and realizes it’s really a Dream he’s been sold by our govt. He starts seeing the country for what it is and for whats really taking place. He starts prepping, he’s hiding this from his wife because of her attitude towards things, but he knows he needs to provide for her and his kids. He brings his daughter into it and it’s there secret from mom. He’s making contacts and feeling folks out to build a community, etc.

    In my opinion this is going to be a very good series and after I press submit… Im going back to finsish what I couldn’t last night.
    http://www.amazon.com/299-Days-Preparation-Glen-Tate/dp/0615680682/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357923525&sr=8-1&keywords=299+days

  8. riverrider says:

    i think i’ll email that wyoming link to my rep.

  9. riverrider says:

    128 million includes ss and pensions, not just handouts. we pensioners WORKED for it, some BLED for it and most PAID for it. and if .gov hadn’t raided the trusts, they would be self supporting instead of the drain that they are. the number of handouts is MUCH smaller. 128 million would be almost 1/2 of every man, woman and child in america. no way. of course there are many receiving handout under several names. yes, the free sh!t army is large and growing, but it is nowhere near the hopeless majority they would have us believe. resist.

  10. Heads Up: Cabelas Restocked Ammo

    It looks like Cabelas just restocked some of their ammo. I just ordered 1000 rounds 9 mm Federal FMJ with two 50 cal ammo boxes for $345, shipping included. They’ve also got .22 lr. and .38 special. I didn’t check the other calibers. I wanted to get my order in before they ran out again.

  11. His worshipfulness knows it’s getting real iffy if Congress would pass anything major, and he’s gotta be pretty sure the states wouldn’t ratify a gutting of the 2nd Amendment. Doing something major by Exec Order could very possibly create major havoc.

    The cops are already in doo-doo because of cut-backs. Hope they’ve been going easy at the firing ranges or they might have to start begging the citizens for ammo. Hey, I’d likely share with my local cops. Unfortunately, I’m still waiting and waitng for my permit to even be able to buy anything. I could offer beans if they get down to bean shooters.

    Gee, the quite a few criminals have what I might label as real assault weapons (fully auto with bookoo magazines, flash suppression, etc) whilst the cops are running short on ammo and some citizens have semi-autos which may or may not have lots of ammo.

  12. The ammo shortage is temporary; just like before. The “shortage” was created by people out-buying the supply systems regular distribution. This is one of the big reasons to hate “just-in-time” delivery. There’s nothing in the back room.

    The current shortage is caused by panic buying. A lot of it, especially with guns, is people not knowing what they need only that they should have something. A lot are buying a gun, not knowing what they need or want, and will find out later that it is the wrong thing for them, or just end up in a drawer.

    • Thomas T. Tinker says:

      Ahmen Sir! JP.. I’m thinking we will cycle around yet again. This next cycle I’ll have the $$ saved to make a deal with the hordes of fellas that need to cash out cause they never figured out what the hell they were doing in the first place. Last November guys were walking around the Maumee Ohio show and couldn’t find a buyer for a $600.oo AR. Two of em made it to my table and we became fast buddies long enough to check ID and count to 6. Call me a cherry picker if you will. Once I got over the shame of it all I felt pretty damn good.

      At Adco Arms this morning there was no new stock, no back orders, no parts, spring kits, stripped lowers… nada. HOWEVER! some folks have brought in their ‘spare’ iron and put it up on consignment. $1100.oo for a Hungarian AK, $550.oo for a parts 30 carbine, $2300.oo for a base line AR, $2900.oo for an Mforgery. Some with no bolts, none with magazines.

      The owner, Steve, just sits on his stool and smiles at all the questions…. and empty shelves and wall racks.

  13. Congrats to Wyoming! Way to be proactive.

    I told our Senators and our 1 Rep that I look at the states these “sponsors” come from. If that is there idea of “quality” gun control, they need to leave us alone. If you look at the number of guns per person in Montana vs. the number of gun related fatalities, I sure don’t want them to change.

  14. Well see you can have all the guns you want, you just can’t get any ammo for said guns, I’ve always thought ammo was the weak link, and I don’t want to hear, that is why you reload, once you run out of components you are in the same boat, and on the poll posted about how much is enough? maybe one answer should have been “Never enough”

  15. Alittle2late says:

    this is off subject but… this is the response I received from sending M.D.’s letter to my senator.

    Thank you for contacting me about the killings in Newtown, CT. I appreciate hearing from you.

    Like all Americans, I was horrified and sickened to learn about the mass murder in Newtown, CT on December 14, 2012. As you know, Adam Lanza murdered 26 people that day, including educators and young children at Sandy Hook Elementary School and his mother at her house, before committing suicide. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the families who were affected.

    In response, we need to come together as a nation, carefully reflect on what happened, and have a thoughtful dialogue on how we can improve public safety and protect our children. Of note, this atrocity in Newtown was the direct result of serious mental illness – something we have consistently observed in other mass killings over the years. We therefore need to better protect ourselves from mentally ill individuals who seek to carry out such atrocities. We also need to review and improve how we take care of the mentally ill. I therefore value your input on this issue and look forward to Congress debating which policies should be implemented to improve public safety.

    Thank you again for your correspondence. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of assistance.

    Sincerely,
    Did I miss something in the letter I sent?

    • My guess is that’s a political form letter they hope wont rile either side.

      • Yes, a form letter. I got pretty much the same response from my Senators and Congressman when I sent off a letter to the three of them. Wrote a lot, but didn’t say much. Pretty typical.

        Note also, these came in the form of no-reply emails. They really don’t want to hear back from you.

        O.G.

        • Typical political BS. They want your vote to stay in office… but they don’t want to hear from you any other time.

  16. michael c says:

    Yes MD, a 128 million people got a gov-ment check last month. The majority spent their money on guns, rifles and ammo – last month.

    I could not imagine a more proper use of funds.

  17. I went to cheaperthandirt.com today. The catalog had some things I’ve been looking for.

    The 1,000 round box of loose Lake City 5.56×45 62 gr FMJ was $499.79, now $1,499; and out of stock! I keep looking at a Dillon 1050 to reload 5.56. At almost $2,000 I was turned off. At these ammo prices, it’s looking cheap.

    • riverrider says:

      frack ctd, they lure you in with low prices then make it up with outrageous shipping/handling. will never buy from them again. calm down, ammo will return.if not, take it from the dead. sportsmans guide got some from denmark and others. i got pmags today,17.99 in stock. hang in there brother.

      • OhioPrepper:

        I have a 650 now. The 1050 also removes the crimp on military crimps.

        • JP,
          I have the 550 and like too many things I saved for it and they came out with the 650 just after I bought it. Unless you shoot and reload tons of military crimped brass, I would think a manual decrimper that you could use while watching TV or otherwise relaxing might do the trick for a lot less money.

          • OP:

            I have all the parts. I was recently looking for a second 650 to use for rifle ammo. It is just that with the current ammo prices it is looking much more practical to have a second press.

            The major issue is that I currently don’t have the room for a second press. I was looking around to see what was available on the used market so I’d be prepared if something comes up.

            I will stick with Dillon products. I like their warrenty and parts replacement service. I still need to get some kind of reloader for shotgun ammo. I want to load 20 ga primarily, but being able to switch to 12 ga would be nice.

    • JP in MT,
      The Dillon 550 or 650 does the trick quite well for a bit less money.

    • Im running a Hornady Progressive

  18. I just sent an email to my governor , on protection at the state level , similar to what Wyoming is proposing . This is a very good thing , and would urge everybody to push for this if you live in a state that would be receptive to it , AZ certainly is . Remember , the first civil war was over taxation and states rights ………..NOT slavery as the left would have you believe .

  19. Ammo Rationing !??? BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT ! , wont happen
    . Retailers will have limited supplies until this dies down , but most will be on a first come , first serve basis . Retailers as a standard practice , have limited an items quantity per person at times if the item is in demand , but this is NOT RATIONING ! its attempting fairness to their customer base …….thats all ! Ask yourself also , why would any government at any level ration what it does not want you to have in the first place ? Shortages help them , rather than hurt them , if its gone , its gone . Why would they want to ration it , and in effect , spread it around to a wider base ?

  20. I guess now it starts.

    Just saw a clip on the Memphis news about a guy that runs a tactical training business around the Memphis Area. He posted a youtube video about the pending gun bans saying something along the lines of that he wouldn’t comply and something about someone getting shot if they tried. Someone in local govt saw the video and called someone else in govt and now his permit to carry concealed has been revoked.

    • Well… DUH!

      I wonder what he thought would happen when he started shooting his fool mouth off like that.

      “When you find yourself living in interesting times, it is best to become as uninteresting as possible.” – oldguy52, 2011

      • Thus the reason I shut down my blog. I am trying to remain uninteresting. Bout time to change my posting name here too. Want to keep em gussin.

  21. White House responds to petitions to secede from union

    Carson said that while our founding fathers enshrined in the constitution “the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot,” they did “not provide a right to walk away from it.”

    “Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, ‘of the people, by the people, and for the people,’ – all of the people,” Carson wrote.

    The White House did not address each state’s petition independently, but did also apply this response to a petition asking for the deportation of everyone who signed the petitions for state secession.

    http://www.wmctv.com/story/20568441/white-house-responds-to-petitions-to-secede-from-union

    • Did anyone really expect anything but BS in response to any of the petitions to the White House? It’s like writing a letter to the editor and nothing more. Bread crumbs tossed to the serfs to keep them occupied while the gov’t mixes the sand and vaseline for what’s coming next.

  22. Petticoat Prepper says:

    Just a thought about the on going gun battle…why are we allowing the MSM to work their lables?

    Gun Control Advocates
    vs
    Gun Control Foes

    I’m thinking any time I’ve the option during a conversation, web comment or the like, I’m going to start saying Anti Gun Rights vs Pro Gun Advocates.

    I’m just overly tired of the loss of free thinking Americans due to the spoon fed MSM social herding.

    • It’s because thinking is hard work and takes so much time away from texting, playing plants vs zombies or angry birds. If it takes more than 2 seconds attention lame stream Americans lose interest.

  23. Would like to mention that , we need to realize that both gun and ammunition manufacturers can not keep up with the infrequent surges of public panic when it happens . This does not mean anything sinister . They just cant predict demand of this type . Under normal conditions , nobody has a problem getting either .