Friday miscellany

1. Proposed Texas law calls for allowing vaccination of children without parental consent : “If you thought the so-called “great state” of Texas was a bastion of freedom, liberty, and minimal government intrusion, think again.”

2. “It’s National Security”…Government Transparency Hits Record Low in 2012 Under Obama : Surprise, surprise…the “most transparent administration ever” is, well, the least transparent.  Not that any of you are shocked by this revelation, but a new report by the Associated Press demonstrates just how secret our government and intelligence agencies have become.  Not only did they claim “national security” over and over like a bunch of drunk parrots, they also claimed the need to protect “internal deliberations.”  Specifically, the number of times the government withheld or censored reports in 2012 was 479,000 times, up 22% from 2011.  The CIA denied 60% of requests, up from 49% in 2011.  From the Associated Press:

3. US assault weapons ban heading for defeat in Senate : “President Barack Obama’s bid to renew a ban against military-style assault weapons narrowly won the backing of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday and headed to the full Senate, where it appears certain to fail.”

4. Democrats Shocked by Support for Second Amendment : National Rifle Association President David Keene believes President Barack Obama and other Democrats who want to expand gun control have been shocked by the outpouring of support for the Second Amendment.

5. Let’s Stop Fooling Ourselves: Americans Can’t Afford the Future : “At some point over the past several decades, that hope for a better tomorrow became an expectation. Or perhaps a perceived entitlement is more accurate.”

6. 8 Facts About Vitamin D and Rheumatoid Arthritis : “Vitamin D deficiency can be a problem for people with chronic illness, such as rheumatoid arthritis. Getting enough is important for your health and maybe even your mood!”

7. I’m disappointed to say the least – State Rep. Joe Carr’s bill blocking federal gun laws fails in Tennessee : “Legislation by state Rep. Joe Carr allowing state authorities to arrest federal agents for enforcing new gun laws failed Wednesday in a House subcommittee.”

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  1. JP in MT says:

    As I think back to 2008, I can’t remember one spoken or implied campaign promise that Obama has kept. Transparency is only good when the other side is in power.

  2. JP in MT says:

    The Government doing/allowing anything done to children without the parent’s consent is morally wrong. We need to stand together and make it legally wrong.

    • JP,

      I disagree with you on this one. There are circumstances, a reemergence of small pox, for instance, that would warrant state mandated vaccination without parental consent. I would only agree with a state mandated vaccination plan without parental consent if (a) the vaccination was proven effective with minimal side effects, (b) there is no medical reason (allergy to eggs, for instance) that would make the vaccination dangerous or ineffective and (c) the vaccination was necessary to prevent an epidemic. (Epidemics are prevented when a critical mass of the public are vaccinated.) Parents do not have the right to refuse immunization when such refusal is likely to become a causal agent in the deaths of others. (I don’t have the right to tell my child to run into a crowded movie theater and yell “fire” when their is no fire. So there are limits to parental autonomy. Parents don’t have the right to refuse routine medical treatment for their minor children. For example, the Supreme Court has ruled that parents’ whose religious beliefs involves playing with rattle snakes cannot force their children to play with rattle snakes under the guise of religious freedom or the separation of church and state.

      • Bam Bam:

        I understand your position, especially about items involving things like epidemics. However, I currently have to stand firm with my no. The reason is, with the current state of affairs with the government, ANYTHING that is not a definite NO, will be interpreted by them as a YES. That’s when we start having 14 year-olds getting abortions without a requirement to even notify the parent (that’s what happened here in MT). They don’t understand reasonable; they cry “it’s for the children”, then abuse parental rights. Right now, parents are responsible, to the State and others, for their children’s actions but have no authority to discipline or regulate their children’s behavior in any way. It’s completely backwards from how it should be. So, we either completely relinquish control to the State or we take it all back. We’re out of options.

      • If all the parents who wish vaccination for their children do so, why do any of them care if some do not. Their kids are “protected” by the vaccine, so what’s the beef? What epidemic? So 14 fami lies (number selected from thin air) opt out, the other 139 families (thin air also) have nothing to fear. My unvaccinated child can’t infect your vaccinated child, can he? Or can he? hmmmm. The vax didn’t work? Why get it? How many ways must it be said? Forcing anyone to vaccinate (along with many other things) is wrong.

      • texas is still on the vaccination for sexually transmitted disease. in eight-year-old kids!
        it isn’t proven safe yet. someone there is getting his palm crossed with silver. this is just a cover to get that STD vaccine into use hidden behind other vaccines.
        it is the parents’ right and responsibility to vac. or not and it is legal to NOT do it. my own child had a terrible reaction to pertussis and another round might kill her. don’t vaccinate your kids lightly and watch after every vaccination and have an ice supply ready. the fever is a killer.

  3. Mystery Guest says:

    !. You have to remember that this republican idiot went to the same schools for her higher education as those liberal turds. All states and the government have been taking rights away from parents fror more decades than we realize. Women working and all of the head start, day care etc. is the same thing as what was done in Germany only they have disguised in double talk and syrup.
    2. Transparancy. Did anyone really believe that?
    3. I hope it is defeated and a copy of the crap they wanted to do is rolled up and Feinstein and all have to walk the line and be slapped with it.
    4. I didn’t think democrats were savvy enough to be shocked.
    5. Seems we can’t afford anything anymore. I hate to think of it.
    6.Well we should know that Vitamin D is important. Cabin fever has been around for centuries.
    7. The problem is the states don’t want to tick the government off because of the money. What these smucks don’t realize the feds have already tunneled in like a gopher and they do not care what station in life you are they will tear your lawn up. So watch out you biggo smarty boys they don’t like you either.

    • those ‘at the top’ (look at any pond. what rises to the top?) think they will be safe from the ‘masters’ because they have co-operated like good little boys. they have not read any history if they believe this. but can they read?

  4. JP in MT says:

    Here it is folks….

    Every Prepper/Camper Must Have it!

    Essential Life-Giving Item!

    Lightweight and Extremely Portable!

    Get your supply today before the Government buys it all up. Remember what happened to ammo and gun!

    (for those of you who think the “real” news is too depressing.)

  5. I heard a rumor yesterday, and was wondering if anyone in the Pack had heard something similar.

    I have a diesel truck and for years they have been making chips of various kinds that enhance performance and/or mileage. I heard that Monday or Tuesday an EPA regulation went into effect that they are no longer authorized for manufacture/import. They can still sell what have on hand, but no replacements. Anybody heard anything like this?

  6. worrisome says:

    JP, sounds like California. The Cal EPA has gone to extraordinary lengths to “protect” everyone from diesel emissions at the two ports in the state, San Pedro and Oakland where “dirty air” was detected due to diesels while waiting for their loads leave their vehicles running. As a result, ALL forklifts and ALL trucks regardless if they attend one of these places or not, anywhere in the state have to install scrubbers on their truck engines, buy new “appoved” engines or buy new trucks. These “rules” are rolling out now and will continue over the next few years, depending upon the age of the truck. Forklifts are restricted by the number of spark fired rigs you can have in any commercial facility………thus limiting a businesses use. There is also emissions testing that has to be done yearly, if not there a big fines to pay. Trucking companies here in Cali are folding up rather than meet the new standards. Just two weeks ago a company in the Santa Rosa area gave it up idling 60 trucks. I believe the idea in all of this is to strangle citizens from using anything other that their “green” alternatives whatever the hell they “think” they will be. For some stupid reason, no one in California seems to be fighting this one in the courts.

    • Patriot Dave says:

      The Trucking companies need to take a lesson from the gun mfg. (Discontinue sales to LEO’s of any state that prohibits citizens from purchasing the same guns.) If all the trucking co. just stopped delivery in lala land for just a few days, the shtf real quick when the grocery shelves are empty and there would be a clamor to repeal this nonsense. There is virtually nothing that you own, that was not, at sometime, on a truck.

      • worrisome says:

        Patriot Dave, you are absolutely right! I think I am going to drop that little hint in some minds around No Cal…………..

    • considering what cal. gov’t. is, maybe they have given up an obviously losing battle rather than face the cost and agony of court action.

  7. 1. For those interested in Texas Senate Bill 63 (relating to consent to the immunization of certain children) and Texas Senate Bill 64 (Policy on vaccine preventable diseases for licensed child care facilities)’, here are links for those bills on Texas Legislature Online:

    SB 63:

    SB 64:

    The links take you to the history tab, which shows the bill’s author and tracks the bill’s progress through the legislative process. Next to the ‘history’ tab is a ‘text’ tab, which has the text of the bill in various formats (adobe, etc.)

    The minor consent bill applies to minors who are pregnant or who have a child of whom they have actual custody. Apparently, under Texas law, a minor parent can give consent to have their child vaccinated, but cannot give consent to being vaccinated themselves.

    • Mystery Guest says:

      Well I must be getting rummy, but what are they proposing to innoculate these kids with? Regular requirements for school? Or some off the wall thing that they have just developed? Just doing it so they can?
      Seems these morons (of all states and gov-ment) are regulating the regulations.
      I wish they would come out with a vaccine for the government officials to HAVE to take for “STUPID”.

      • SurvivorDan says:

        “I wish they would come out with a vaccine for the government officials to HAVE to take for “STUPID”.” MG

        As you know, there is no vaccine for ‘STUPID’.
        The only cure is to vote THEM out.

      • I had not heard of these bills until this morning, but according to the brief author’s bill analysis, the intent of the bill is to protect young kids, infants and unborn babies of minor mothers by allowing the mother to consent to receive vaccinations herself if the CDC recommends or authorizes initial dose before 7 years of age.

  8. Hi Pack, I don’t know if this has been advertised but Magpul magazines are in a battle with the knuckleheads in Denver. They are trying to limit magazines to 15 rounds. The Governor is about to sign the bill into law. Not sure when the law will come into effect, but if you are a Colorado resident they will sell you mags for crazy low prices right now. Go to and click on the Boulder Flights icon. You have to register with them and once you get a confirmation email you can order AR and AK mags at crazy low prices. The only thing you must be a Colorado resident, and they have limits so everyone can get in on the deals.

    Magpul is threatening to leave Colorado because of the limits being put on them by this law. They are just trying to stick it to the idiots in Denver before they pack up and move.

    Sorry if I’m repeating something that has already been put out there.

  9. Sorry, and just to add I am not associated with Magpul in any way, I just wanted to pass on a good deal.

  10. Still nothing new on the Fat Lesbian front?,…dam!

  11. riverrider says:

    senator cruz gave the ol’ bat hell yesterday. she was not amused, probly put a hit out on him….the bill may fail, but that will only give tdl the green light to eo it. that my friends might be the final straw. we’ll see. they keep trying to demonise the nra as a monster, not willing to face the fact that 4 million NEW members and many more old members are their constituents, not a “special interest lobby”. colorado sold out to the libtards, turning their collective backs to their citizens. i wonder what they got in return. jobs in d.c.? a fat pork project bill ? a building named after them? what could make a man do that to the people that elected him? i call them traitors, and traitors get hung, not in a good way.

    • Colorado voters chose to elect the Democrats and now they are all paying the price. Like the story of the frog and the scorpion, you can only trust a scorpion to be a scorpion. Maybe folks will learn not trust the scorpions after this. Wait, what am I saying, of course they won’t.

      • Hey! T2R’s, Don’t lump all Coloradans for electing these toads. My county is a 75% Republican county!
        We have been fighting, writing and attending meetings at the Capital for petes sake! Our county is not close to Denver, so we are traveling at our own expense.
        Please think for you group us all together.

        • tommy2rs says:

          It’s the same story that the national elections told. City vs rural. The city voters outnumber the rural voters and the cities tended to go Democrat. That’s why I said “now they are all paying the price”. And why I doubt the lesson will be learned.

          • riverrider says:

            heck, they’re talking about moochel running for prez or vp in 2016! has this freaking country gone COMPLETELY nuts? and hillary is ahead of all the challengers? um, benghazi? um, campaign manager killed on her way home from quitting the clintons? um, vince foster? um, travelgate? white water? um, sec of housing & urban developement killed in bosnia one day after agreeing to testify in a congressional hearing? yep, this country HAS gone completely nuts. ug.

          • worrisome says:

            River Rider, we need to just keep talking about this stuff and not let it die and not give up on any of it. I busily send emails out to most everyone on my contact list…and facebook as I can. Eventually even if they are sick and tired of me pointing it out to them, some of them have to begin to get it!

            As for Feinstein? Because she has been trading on the Harvey Milk incident her whole life, she is never ever going to give up on blaming guns for the issue. The fact that she was there when it went down and knew that the guy was a fruit loop nutball and she did nothing to warn anyone is her real problem. Been in denial ever since.

        • SurvivorDan says:

          Same for Oregon being a Liberal bastion. My brother (LEO in Eugene) swears that most of the state, geographically, is conservative but the big cities on the coast (and Eugene) make it a liberal state. I fear Arizona will go in the same political direction with the influx of illegals and Kalifornians.
          I know some of you Kailfornians are fleeing the Libs but too many bring their Progressive ideas here. Inevitably the Progressives will have this state too. Unless the TDL wrecks the country completely. of course THEY will blame the previous Republican administration and then start soup kitchens and shovel ready jobs for the starving masses. And so become the BIG Gov’t saviors. Sound familiar?

    • Rider of Rohan says:

      riverrider, the senile old hag Feinstein claimed in one of her answers to Cruz that the bullets used at Sandy Hook imploded, and caused the loss of limbs. This old witch is just making stuff up as she goes along, and the pathetic media questions nothing these liars say.

      • riverrider says:

        i still haven’t seen the official report that it was an ar15. funny how thats staying off the radar.

  12. This Texas bill may put parents in the role of home schooling their kids so the government can’t vaccinate their kids at public schools as they have done for years. Home schooling has increased since the government controlled public school systems are failing.

    It is obvious this corrupt gov’t is hiding too many things. Cover-ups, refusing freedom of information, cyber attacks on foreign governments so they retaliate against the US, How many innocent people are killed by drone strikes, secret money exchanged, and Bengazi cover up and hiding witnesses under sudo names so they don’t testify.

    Democrats shocked for 2nd amendment support? many supporters are democrats, that was the shock. They weren’t drinking the koolaid on that one like they were supposed to.

    Future generations of Americans can’t afford the future. They will be taxed 70 to 80% of their income and live in a socialist and possibly communist country. The average home will be a one bedroom apt. with 3 families living in it.

    Vitamin D is the happy vitamin.I take it when depressed sitting inside all day.

    The fed bill won’t pass in US congress to confiscate guns. If the ATF is given power by the man-child to confiscate our guns, there will be a war.

  13. riverrider says:

    okay i’m gonna start a flame war here but….the big case in the news is the ohio high school “rape”. i’m amazed that nobody, in their passion to prosecute the guys, has even considered that she was just as responsible as the guys for this. she got falling down drunk before she even got there. nobody made her do it. the prosecution said she was too drunk to give consent. well then she was too drunk not too? equal rights comes with equal resposibility. would the guys get off because they were too drunk? heck no! same with the jody arias case. the jury is trying desperately to let her off. it was a guy, he’d be hanging by now. abused or not (not), she stabbed him many times in the shower, shot him, then tried to cut his throat. when he was laying in a pool of blood in the shower, he ceased to be a threat if he ever was. hanger n get on with real news….rant over, flame away.

    • RR,

      I must be in a disagreeable mood today. The girl was responsible for putting herself in a position where she could not protect herself. But that does not absolve the boys of taking advantage of the fact that she was drunk. I think the real question here is that if she was in fact so drunk, she is not in a mental state to determine whether or not she gave consent. If she remembers the sex but not whether she gave consent, then there is no way to prove that the boys are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. The only thing we know is that sex happened. We do not know whether it was consensual or not. It’s the lack of knowing or the lack of proof that allows the boys to walk.

      • riverrider says:

        agreed. i was sure i’d be beaten like a redheaded stepchild, but i had that on my mind too long. and from what has been reported, she doesn’t even know if it occurred, other than some touching. funny that the other girls there didn’t stop it either. todays kids….

        • worrisome says:

          One of those boys recorded it all as I understood what I heard today. And isn’t having sex with someone totally passed out just one step to having sex with a dead person? Don’t know about legal, but perverted?

          • riverrider says:

            yes, the whole thing was jacked up, but i just think equal rights comes with equal responsability. can’t be equal and “protected” too. she played a part in it too, and none of them should spend their lives in jail over stupid kid stuff. all of them need a good ol fashioned butt whoopin, but not prison. if a drunk man is responsible for his actions, so is a drunk woman. i’m not excusing what they did, but plenty of blame to go around.

  14. Patriot Dave says:

    4. That is like being shocked that bears s#!t in the woods.

    5. Why can’t we just steal from the great great grand kids, if the other generations are broke?

    6. duh.

    7. TN was on a good roll there for a while. They made some good progress.

  15. NotAHusker says:

    For those of us in Nebraska, next week a bunch of firearms related laws goes before the legislature. Ernie Chambers(A Vocal anti gun nut State Representative), is vowing to pack the meetings and fight against gun rights so please write your Representative to let them know how you feel. Sorry if this is off topic to prepping but I don’t want Nebraska to lose to the anti gunners. As a reference, Ernie Chambers is the reason that it took till 2007 for Nebraska to become a shall issue concealed carry state, and he was reelected last year. He is also an athiest who is on record for being anti Christian and suing God in court. Again, sorry if off topic but we can’t forget the state issues while fighting the Feds and TDL.

  16. GoneWithTheWind says:

    I suspect none of you remember polio before the vaccine. It was scary, people got polio with no wraning and no understanding of how to avoid it. My mother had polio and she feared it. We children could feel her fear of polio. I remember when I was about 6 visiting a uncle who survived in an iron lung as a result of polio. When the vaccine was created and became available there was no arguing against it because people understood the horrible fate of those who did not get it. Today thanks mostly to vaccine, most of those serious diseases that used to kill half the children before age 5 are controlled. So it is easy for a younger person (under 50) to be unaware of the benefits vaccines have given us. There are cult-ish and fad-ish reasons to shun vaccines. It has become like the latest fad diet, airhead parents brag about eating no meat or dairy and by the way we don’t vaccinate our children. Sooner or later reality will disabuse those airheads (and sadly their innocent children as well) but should we allow ignorance to reign? Some here think we should. Some would call them luddites but I think they are just caught up in the latest fad. Today it is gluten free pizza tomorrow it will be fear of fruits because they contain sugar. Be the first in your nieghborhood to jump on the next bandwagon but for god’s sake get your kids vaccinated.

    • You’re making some big assumptions about the readers of this blog, only a fraction of whom actually comment here.

      * “I suppose none of you remember polio before the vaccine”
      * “should we allow ignorance to reign? Some here think we should.” (implying that each parent who chooses not to vaccinate their child is doing so for “cult-ish and fad-ish reasons”)

      Claiming a pancake only has one side and calling people an “airhead” for not seeing things exactly as you, well, that’s not a persuasive argument on any issue.

      You’d also be more effective making your point if you cited your sources for your assertions.

      * “those serious diseases . . . used to kill half the children before age 5”.

      Are you talking about the US? At what point in history? By whose measure? Otherwise, folks will think “My great grandparents had 12 kids in the early 20th century, and all lived to adulthood except one who died as an infant–what’s this guy talking about?”

      If you want to advance the public discourse on vaccinations, submit an article to MD–that’d give you a chance to lay out your case in full (and edit out gratuitous assumptions).

      The robust debate that would ensue could help folks think through this issue for themselves.

      • GoneWithTheWind says:

        The airhead reference was to people like Jenny McCarthy. You can agree or disagree with that opinion of her.

        As for remembering polio before the vaccine, that means you had to be old enough to understand polio and vaccines before about 1955. Statistically most people commenting here don’t meet that standard. It is important for exactly the reasons I stated, i.e. polio was a terrirfying disease and overnight Jonas Salk made that fear go away. Most people today don’t fear polio, smallpox and a long list of deadly diseases that vaccines have prevented. It is exactly because they don’t fear those diseases or fully understand vaccines that this point is important. Ignorance is not “stupid” or even necessarily insulting in simple means you do not know something and in many cases you do not know you do not know. As late as the 19th century and the early 20th century half the children born died before reaching age 5 from childhood diseases we no longer have to fear in the Western world. This is common knowledge and doesn’t need to be “proved”. You can argue over the exact number but not the impact. Prior to Smallpox vaccine smallpox would kill about 20–60% of adults and over 80% of infected children. As for submitting an article to encourage robust debate I think your suggestion is sincere and may in fact be useful. The problem is that the value of vaccination is not in doubt, does not need to be proven and there are no (or very few) doctors and scientists who dispute the need for vaccination. Those who do not accept tha need for vaccination do so out of religiousl-like faith in something they read on the internet and like most religious-like beliefs won’t be shaken by either common sense or overwhelming evidence. What they need is something that shakes their faith. Something like one of their children getting whooping cough. My intent is a sharp jab in the ribs to wake them up. Most won’t, I know that but some do come around to understand that science makes more sense then superstition. Sorry my sharp jab in the ribs offended you.

        • GWTW, I think you misunderstood my comment. It was not a comment on the merits of vaccination; it was a comment on the sweeping nature of your presentation of your position.

          Should every parent vaccinate each of their children with every vaccine recommended by the CDC on the timetable recommended, without regard to their personal circumstances (e.g., the child has a relevant allergy or some aspect of the vaccine’s manufacture would cause them to violate a fundamental conviction)?

          If you want to help others think through this issue analytically, I do hope you will submit an article laying out your argument and the facts, with sources.

          It’s easier to write off those who may think differently as a zealot–or conversely someone who’s just looking to land a few sharp jabs–especially online. But isn’t that underestimating our fellow man?

          This is an issue that is worthy of discussion as its own topic, not buried in the comments.

  17. Did you know that parents do not “own” their children? They are the lawful custodians of their children until each child turns age 18 or is declared an emancipated minor, but they do not ever “own” the child. As custodians, parents are held accountable by both state and federal government to provide proper care and supervision of each child and to refrain for abusing or neglecting the children under their care. The state has a vested interest in making sure parents take proper care of their children, because the state needs families to raise the next generation of healthy and law-abiding citizens/taxpayers (and future military personnel), and the state is funded to intervene (investigate, arrest, try, punish) if parents fail to act as proper custodians of their children. What is considered proper parenting has varied over the decades and today still varies from state to state. Is it reasonable to expect that if you send your child to a public school, that the school will be clean and safe and that the other children attending the school will be free of lice, bed bugs, internal parasites and not carriers of any serious communicable illnesses? Is it reasonable to expect that those parents of your child’s classmates who fail to properly care for their children (including immunizing their children against illnesses your child could contract) should be held accountable? Remember that immunization does not absolutely guarantee that a child will not contract the illness, but if all the children in a school are immunized, the risk of contracting the illness goes way down. Public health issues often boil down to a matter of invidual rights versus the common good. When it is a matter of what is best for a dependant child versus what a parent with unusual beliefs wants, I must admit I tend to be predjudiced in favor of the child’s welfare rather than parental freedom (especially if tax dollars are involved). A pair of parents who do not agree with the laws in their state or country can of course decide to relocate to a place where the laws are different but really do not have the option of staying put and violating state or fedral law without consequences.

    • Linda, what state are you in?

      Texas does not require parents to keep their children free of lice, bed bugs or internal parasites, or to prove that the children are free of communicable diseases. (And I doubt any of those conditions on its own would be sufficient to establish abuse or neglect, or be considered grounds for a court order to remove a child from their parents’ custody.)

      However, to enroll in a primary or secondary school (public or private) or a child care facility, Texas does require parents to show proof of vaccination against specified diseases.

      But, there are two exemptions: (1) doctor’s statement that vaccination would be medically harmful or injurious to the child or a household member; or (2) parents choose not to vaccinate for reason of conscience (including religious belief).

      Texas law permits homeschooling; I believe that would be another alternative a parent could consider.

  18. mindyinds says:

    M.D, I’m disappointed in the Volunteer State too, having been born there and lived there a number of years of my adult life. Proud of the rural heritage of that state from the rural flatlands near Memphis to the mountains in the east. But wasn’t it TN that was the first state to jump on the federal roadblock deal? And did you know that they are building, or have built a huge, much larger than needed for locals, mosque in Murfreesboro? So, I am not shocked, just saddened.

  19. LucentInsanity says:

    I don’t have a problem with the first article. As a molecular scientist that develops vaccinations in the United States, I make every person in my family get their vaccinations at the right time, including a yearly flu shot. I’ve always worked with state legislatures to develop and enforce vaccination laws. There isn’t a single thing unsafe about them and the research that they may cause autism is altered and has no proven evidence; I had to work with a research firm to find out if they caused any negative effects and found nothing. Those that think there’s anything wrong with vaccinations, obviously have no real knowledge of them and have problems with paranoia.

    • LucentInsanity, maybe you’d be good enough to write an article for the blog about vaccinations.

      I’d be especially interested to hear about your work with the various state legislatures–seems like each one would have its own approach. How many do you think “got it right”?

      You should also cover Gov. Perry’s Guardasil proposal. Is that something you would have been satisfied to give your daughter? It certainly generated hot debate here–many people drew a connection between the proposed vaccination requirement, a pharmaceutical company and his campaign staff/donations.

      No doubt folks here would be interested to know about your experience with the research firm, and what type of clients engage them.

  20. To be clear, the proposed Texas law would allow a minor parent with actual custody of a young child or a pregnant minor to consent to vaccinations for themselves.

    I’m not sure what constitutes “actual custody”, but if a 17 year old girl can legally consent to vaccination of her baby, I can see the logic that she should be able to consent to her own vaccination.

    The pregnant minor case seems like a more challenging case. What if the pregnant minor is 13? In Texas, the statutory age of consent for sexual contact is 17.

    Should a condition resulting from sexual contact the 13-year-old does not have the legal capacity to consent to, give her the capacity to consent to a vaccination without her parents’ knowledge/involvement? Would a 13year old remember what she’s allergic to? Would she know her medical history, or if she’s already had that vaccination?

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