Friday Poll : How much does your bug out bag weigh?

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What items do you think are an  absolute necessity in your bug out bag? Please list those items in the comments section below…

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  1. The two heaviest items in my bug out bag are reserve ammo and water. How much does the extra ammo for your chosen caliber weigh? If bugging out, you probably have web gear to carry your magazines. But have you chosen to carry spare mags in your BOB, or do you want to carry bandoliers with ammo on stripper clips for easy reloading? I chose the bandoliers. Water is approximately 8 pounds per gallon. I try to carry around a gallon and then water purification tablets and a water filter kit. A good fixed blade knife is a must – strong steel able to hold a good edge and full tang (not a fancy bolted together survival knife – we need fit and function not good looks and style). Depending on your state and local laws, how much does your back up pistol weigh? (One side note here – do you know how to feel the difference between the weight of the pistol with an empty mag and a loaded mag in it? Just saying….). Throw in extra socks, underwear, jeans (depending on your size – the average pair of blue jeans weighs about three pounds according to the airlines – so how many pairs are you going to carry). With all of this info, I have begun to get side tracked… So my BOB contains – ammo, water, fixed blade knife, first aid kit, blow out kit, solar charger & small batteries, 2 way radio, am/fm/shortwave/weather band radio (you never know how long the services will be working), paracord (100 ft), food (freeze dried and sos survival bars – not bulky MRE’s), change of pants / shirt/ under garments, extra socks, local maps – compass (non digital) and a GPS. The BOB it’s self is a surplus Molle 2 ruck system bought off of EBAY in good old woodland camo. It was cheap when the military was switching from woodland to the new digital camo. Anyway, enough of my ramblings. I hope and pray that all of you reading this site have a blessed and happy new year.

    • I am a newbie and elderly. So, please tell me what you consider “A good fixed blade knife is a must – strong steel able to hold a good edge and full tang (not a fancy bolted together survival knife – we need fit and function not good looks and style).
      Is there a specific type of steel blade and good edge and full tang?

      Do you have a file here that lists your terminology? As I said, I am a newbie. Thank you and I love your site.
      GranInOregon

      • Caio César says:

        Well, I’m a newbie to, but I have some knowledge about survival knives. I suggest the USMC KA-BAR knife, or the AFSK Ontario Pilot Survival Knife.

        These are excelent knives, than attend the requirements of a survival blade: both are strong, made in carbon steel (good for sharpening), full tang (don’t breaking with impact, and can be used like a hammer, different of the hilt screwed), and with some modifications (like the remotion of the upper part of the handguard, for firmer handling, and modify the edge to a convex edge, making the sharpening be much easier than with the normal edge), these blades can be excellent tools in a BOB.

        I can suggest a small blade, to delicate tasks, like a good penknife, or a neck knife, and, for tasks that require more power, consider a machete, or a Kukri knife (but these big blades can be replaced by the survival knives with fixed blades, occuping less space in your bug out bag).

        Search and ask other people about knives and other things, and read all material than you can, and practice your skills , because knowledge is our first tool for survival.

      • For me a good fixed knife is a Buck model 121. Mine is 40 years old with only one new sheath. I say carbon steel blade over stainless to hold an edge better. 5″ to 6″ for versatility. Fighting knives are another story, your main blade should utilitarian rather than rambo. A K-bar or cold steel blade about the same size would do as well.

  2. And that’s why I’m always looking for items that are very light (that usually means expensive) and multipurpose.

  3. Better to have and not need , than need and not have . You can always trade or outright ditch what you dont need along the way . I pack heavy ……folks …….if something is SO bad that its going to be able to uproot me from my home , I know that I’m not going to be going back to it for a while . The 72 hour benchmark is a good bare bones starting point …..BUT ….as I said above , its not very realistic if you think anything will be over in just 3 days . If your forced to leave , 3 weeks at the earliest is what you had better plan for before you attempt to try and go back . When you look at it that way , it takes on a new perspective . IMO , a big mistake a person can make when looking at your go bag is seeing it as a temporary inconvenience , but looking at it as ” this is my life , my entire life , for the next 3 weeks….or longer ” then , and only then , will you see that your cheap chinese made 3 mil thick bivy sack , 8 zip lock bags , space blanket ( worthless for anything ) , mag bar , piece of string , paracord , and 5 fish hooks with sinkers isn’t going to cut it ! Time to get real with yourself , for yourself . Dont pack like a 14 year old kid going to visit his cousin in the country . If you do pack like that , you might as well say ” shoot me now and get it over with ” . Pack REAL food ! … that hershey bar , twiks , bullion cube and gum drops in a baggie wont feed your cat , much less a full grown adult under stress and exerting themselves . Mine weighs 70 lbs , yes 70 lbs ! ……no its not fun , but I’m not struggling either , you see ….I’m in very good physical condition , this is another place you need to get real with yourself …….if you have a spare tire , cottage cheese on your thighs , etc . …….now may be a good time to address it . Get a good comfortable sleep system , if you want to lay on the ground in the dirt covered with branches …….thats your business , but getting good sleep makes a BIG difference . Getting bad sleep , over even a short amount of time will affect you physically , but more important , it affects you mentally ……..you will start to make poor decisions , you will not be as alert as you need to be . What if your best laid plans of movement and location turn to shit ? Good ol Murphys law will be in full affect SHTF . just sayin . What you have in that bag may turn out to be all you have , dont short change it …..why would you do that to yourself . Those of you with military training , well Booya for you ! the others do not .They need to pack for their reality . Folks , dont take a BOB lightly is the whole point here .

  4. Water and weaponry.

  5. Copperhead says:

    I’ve had back fusion surgery and have orders not to lift anything more than 25 lbs EVER, or I would have to have more surgery. So I work hard at keeping the BOB lighter and I know I may not have everything I should, but I have the basics. Extra sox, 1 pair pants, 1 heavy shirt, 1 lighter weight shirt, fire starter, knife, matches, solar blanket, hand/foot warmers in winter, first aid kit, medicines, emergency food bars, whistle, cord, compass. I know I need to put some ammo in, but haven’t done that yet. Will holster my gun. Well, I know I have a bit more, but can’t think what now. Can only bug out for a short time, plan to bug out in place unless train derails etc. close by.

    • Patriot Dave says:

      Copperhead, sorry about your back. Keep fit under your doctor’s directions. Talk to a Physical Therapist about safe exercises for you. Couple of ideas if you have to bug out on foot. (the whole purpose of this exercise anyway.) Spread and balance some of the weight into a fanny and/or chest pack and cargo pockets and web gear. This is for essentials in case you have to ditch the next item.
      Obtain some kind of wheeled cart with large tires. Like a deer cart. or something that has four wheels that can be pushed or pulled and not require any lifting at all. wheelbarrow is out. shopping cart wheels are too small for anything other than tile. A jogging stoller may work. Anyone in the pack have one? I have recently seen a similar device marketed for shooters to carry several long arms and lots of ammo to a range.
      Alternatively, I have seen photos of 3rd world country people pushing their bicycles and trikes loaded to the max with goods for market. They usually have a stick attached to the handlebar and seat because they are so far away from the actual bike. I am not saying you should pack the kitchen sink, but a bike can carry a lot of gear. Once in camp a bike is good for scouting an area. Or, if you are able to ride a bike, get a small trailer to attach to it. As AEP said, his can hold 80 lbs. the bike can have bags attached to the sides and top of the back and inside the frame and on the front handles. It is faster and easier than walking, but limited to types of trails and roads. Can get you around stranded cars, but still have to deal with checkpoints and gun seizures. practice your planned route on foot and by bike.
      This goes for all of us. All that fancy equipment is no good, unless we practice how to use it. Find out what we can live without and ditch it. practice a bug out. For the first one, I would not plan to hike more than a mile or two with a 50 lb pack if I had never done it before. Go to a state park with a camp ground and hiking trails. lug that pack around for a while. You will see real fast. If you are not walking at all, you need to start. If you do walk, you need to add weight. Then go longer with more. Add hills. Add non graded trails. Try cross country or “bushwacking” without any trails. You have to be flexible enough, if you encounter hostile opponents to get off the roads and trails.

      • Copperhead says:

        Patriot Dave, sorry for my tardy response to your helpful comments. Got me to thinking about a 3-wheel bicycle. A couple of people in a small town nearby have them, might just work for me! I am a flatlander, so peddling will be easier than in hilly country. I just have to go 20 miles to reach a relative if I have to leave my home. Just have to get rid of a cast and boot off of my foot and I will be looking into it. I will bugout ONLY if there is a train derailment, gas leak etc. Otherwise all will be coming to me. I’m a farmer, so have the ground etc. to hopefully be able to grow most of our own food.

  6. My bag is split into compartments so I can split it up and take what I think I’m going to need. Even though the whole thing weights about 45-50 pounds I only plan on carrying it a safe enough distance to rummage through it. In a worst case scenario where I have to get light real quick I would take the outer pack which contains all of the light essentials (kife, money, paracord, matches etc.) and leave the rest behind. In my case it’s more of a get home bag that stays in the back of the cars’ trunks but that’s my strategy.

  7. private idaho says:

    i have a regular alice pack bought for ten dollars at a yardsale in it i carry spare mags, ammo,extra cloths, like socks,poly underwear and uniforms a mulitool,hatchet, small bow saw,hobo tool cause no one likes to eat mre,s
    with their hands, a field dressing kit, includes bone saw and knives, a wetstone for the same, dull knives are dangerous. for water i have a cammel back and on my load bearing gear two canteens, gotta get filtration system , waterproof matches and mag firestarter, lintballs with petroleum jelly, one thing i have used and carry on my b.o.b is a chimney style charcoal starter that is good as a rocket stove, kind of heavy but alot thicker material may last longer it has a handle and i can just hang it off one of the straps. only downside gotta load fuel from the top. what ya think too much?

    • Patriot Dave says:

      Good find. I like smaller size packs that keep us from overpacking.
      Frankly, I would not suggest having all that butcher equipment. First you are not going to kill anything of that size while bugging out. Second you are not going to haul 100 lbs of venison with you. Third, the meat is going to spoil fast, unless it is the dead of winter. A knife is all you need for small mammals.
      Definitely get a good filter and purifier. A necessity. You can’t carry enough water. Then you can ditch the canteens unless you are in a dry area.
      I like your thinking out of the box about the chinmey. You are correct, it is heavy and big. It will also make noise clanking on the back of your backpack. utube has videos for rocket stoves that are much lighter and smaller. There are foldable stoves too. They are mostly a wind screen with a platform for a pot. Also a diy project.

  8. Being an Ex 18E, I have become accustomed to walking for weeks at a time while carrying 120+ lbs of equipment. My bug-out bag has to carry most of our families necessities. I have two kids, 7 year old daughter and 1 year old son. My wife is a Army Veteran also and she can reliably carry 35 pounds of gear on her back. My daughter can handle 20 lbs. My current bug-out bag weighs in at around 90 lbs. Altogether we carry almost 150 lbs of gear. My son will be carried in a bike tow-able trailer with a 80 lb capacity. My son weighs 30 lbs leaving an additional 50 lbs for gear, mostly baby related. All of our gear can fit into our 4wd SUV, along with 15 gallons of additional gas. The gas will allow us to easily travel to our families bug-out location.

  9. Santa Walt says:

    My wife and I will be “bugging in.” Suggest a similar question about a “Get Home Bag,” GHB.

  10. Patriot Dave says:

    For those of you how have not been in the military and had to carry a ton of gear, or been in the scouts and also carried a ton of gear, and have not enjoyed the sport of backpacking. I would recommend checking out the backpacking community online and in magazines and locally in your area.
    The reason is; these people have made all the mistakes and share their experiences. They have tried, tested and broke all of the equipment and gear. Some of them are ultalight backpackers, who will travel for a week or month with less than 20 lbs backpack, and survive. you can learn alot from the forums and folks and don’t have to re-invent the wheel. http://www.backpacker.com/survival/ for example. (I have no connection with the magazine)
    I love gear, preppers love gear. Most backpackers love gear too. I always take more stuff than I need. I get back from a camping trip, take out the stuff I neve used and never take it again. Now a SHTF situation is completely different. You don’t have a known cut off date. You may have to alter course. You may have to change destination. You may be out there longer than you think and not be able to return home, soon or ever. Therefore, Unfortunately, my BOB has more equipment than If I were merely backpacking. (and the weight to go with it) But my experience still lets me trim some of the items that once were “necessary” to “want to”. I no longer carry a hatchet. or military folding shovel. I try to replace heavy stuff with lighter versions. Still I go through the “what ifs” delimas. Too many contingencies. It is too easy to give in to the temptation to just thrown something in the pack for “just in case” until you actually have to carry it. Then we end up doing like the settlers of the west in the wagon trains. You could follow them easily, not only because of the ruts, but also because of all the discarded property. Mountain climbers have done the same thing. Some people have written that they would make secret caches and come back for them. Perhaps they will.
    If part of your bugout plan is a “on foot” contingency, Then you need, no you MUST, find out what you are setting yourself up for. As I stated in my other post, If you are not used to walking and hiking, start of small. You are going to find muscles screeming at you that you did not know you had. Your feet are your mobility, damage them and you are out of commission. twist an ankle, and you are out of commission. blow out your knee, strain your back, etc. you get the picture.
    Test your equipment. I mean really test it, try to break it. Abuse it. Well maybe not that much. :-) will it last? Better to find out now, and buy a better one, than latter when the stores are no more. Can that knife be used for entrenching or prying, not just skinning and cutting? Next time a big storm is forecast for your area, set up your tent in the backyard. add enough weight to the bottom to replicate you and your gear. Then see if it can survive. When you recover it from your neighbor’s yard, you will have to replace all the cheap crappy tent pegs for stronger ones. Was the rainfly really waterproof? Can your water filter handle silt and mud? How long will the can of propane or butane last? Then there are skills: Can you start a fire in wet conditions? can you hide a fire? Do you know how to get bearings or use a compass? Can you make a trap? can you skin a squirrel? can you cook it? can you eat those berries?
    that’s my 2 cents.

    • riverrider says:

      excellent advice. maybe you could do a whole post on the subject? check out “ultralite” backpacking sites as well. those guys go for 6 months at a time on next to nothing, but of course they aren’t foraging for food nor worried about defense. with all the murders on the trail, they should be tho.

  11. MountainSurvivor says:

    I have a small and a big pack but both weigh well under twenty pounds. What I find important to carry in any pack is a minimum of 2 qts. water, dried foods, knife, fire steel, wool hand and head wear/ski mask, wool socks and a waterproof cover. Maybe a few hundred feet of rope, a candle and some car or vegetable oil, a few drops of kerosene for lamps, tinder and a lighter. There’s lots of wood for making fire starters/boards, bows, drills out my neck of the woods. Plenty of plants and animals to chow down on, turn their skins and bones into what I need. Fish, clams, aren’t too hard to find around these parts. No sense in a pack being overbearing on the body and taking a toll when I can fend for over half of what I need out in the wilds anyway, all year through.

  12. Caio César says:

    My bug out bag is very light, considering it is in construction, but I search intens than will supply basic needs of survival: Shelter, fire, food, water, light, orientation, signaling, protection and health.

    Some itens are very simple, and obviously, cheap. Trash bags, poncho, aluminized blankets, paracord, twine, and my clothes, I use for supply the shelter that I need.
    Lighters, matches, flint, homemade solid fuel, small straps of rubber, and carbonized cotton for fire.
    Canned meat and tuna, noodles, cookies, candies and chocolate, besides salt and sugar for food, a metal cup and a plate, for food needs.
    A reutilized bottle of soda, water purification tablets, for water needs.
    One flashlight with dinamo, one normal flashlight and one smal flashlight with a laser pointer (all flashlights use led lamps) for light needs.
    A compass with scale, and a small compass, with a whistle, a mirror, and a pocket radio for orientation and signaling needs.
    A knife and penknife, for protection needs.
    Bandages, gauze, cotton, court plaster, band-aid, equipament for suture, scalpel, scissor, tweezer, gloves, peroxide, antibiotics, antiinflamatory, painkillers, antihistaminic, soap, repellent, toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, for health needs.
    One multi-tool, one saw wire, one tape duct, one sewing/fishing kit.

    This kit stays accommodated on my old backpack, but I am saving money to buy an Alice Pack, a better knife, and a handgun, for more protection (despite the disarmament law on my country). As I said, my bug out bag is in construction, and I will add better itens with the time.

    • Dave in OH says:

      I’m curious what is “homemade solid fuel”. Could you explain what it is or how you make it please?

      • Caio César says:

        Well, basically, it’s a variant of commercial solid fuel (difficult to find here), and cheaper.
        It consists in a wad of cotton plated with another fuel, like parafin or vaselin. I tryed with parafin (from simple candles).
        To make them, just triture and melt the parafin, and dive the wad of cotton while the parafin is liquid. So, wait the balls of fuel cool down.
        After cool, the parafin gets solid again, and you can starts fire with them, or even boil water.

        • Caio Cesar … great idea on the cotton fire starter…We just use vasaline for our large cotton balls and i rap them in a little aluminium foil so as to cut down on the mess inside the container. Then cut open the tin foil open and lite the cotton ball when needed. Works great and I enjoy putting it together. Have a good one.

  13. We have these little gems in our bags and use one in the house all the time. Thought I would share something useful and light to carry.

    http://www.amazon.com/Smiths-CCKS-2-Step-Knife-Sharpener/dp/B00032S02K/ref=sr_1_7?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1356785218&sr=1-7

  14. Love it when I get in a hurry! Plus, we lost our internet connection as I was trying to post.

    Some other items that may be of interest. We have 8 oz. hammocks that we carry. Purchased from off E-bay. Quick and easy to set up just tie to two trees. We’ve used them at motorcycle rallies and they are Very comfortable. Much better than sleeping on the ground! The only draw back is their bright colors, I have a camouflaged poncho that could help out with that if needed.

    I’ve made fire starter out of card board and wax, a tip I found while surfing the net. They burn for about 9 minutes and would really help out in damp situations. They are light and don’t take up much room, I’ve vacuum packed them to keep them dry.

    And yes this is a great topic of discussion!

    • CR…great idea…I make my own MRE’s and I think I will put a strip of cardboard in there along with my already present tea candle. Make it part of the MRE…. thanks for the idea…Rusty

  15. Good job as always my BOB 17 lbs

  16. My bag is about 60 Lbs and I think it is abit heavy. But with a family I am humping some things that we need that they can’t carry in their bags. All 4 of us have a bag. As the man and argueably the most fit, (that and I am an Infantryman and used to “humping a ruck”) I get to carry the extra. As an infantryman I might be used to the weight on my back but in a fight we drop rucks and fight. In a bug out situation dropping and leaving your ruck isn’t the best idea.
    This weight does not include my bow or arrows or my web gear with knife, more water, 1st aid items and survival kit.
    I am looking into some of the ultralite gear because as I get older the weight gets heavier.
    I like the suggestion of a bike to help carry weight and if anyone can point me to a place to get saddle bags for a dog i’d appreciate that. Though my dog might not be so grateful.
    As for what I pack, water and purifiers, thats about 7 Lbs, cloths ( 3 pair of extra socks on top of 1 complete change of cloths) and cold weather gear so all clothing 16 -19 Lbs, poncho, rope and other shelter stuff 10 Lbs, Food is at least 10 Lbs of stripped down MRE, dehydrated meals, extra salt and spices and a small bag of vacuum sealed rice plus my favorite, a can of peaches 10 Lbs. Add in misc small items like my flashlight( crank and solar) 5 Lbs or so it adds up quickly.
    Where I want ultra light is in cold weather gear and shelter items and the ruck itself. I will not give up food and I like my MRE’s as does my daughter because they dont require and prep at all. Open and eat, gotta love convience.
    Wish I had the weight for extra boots.

    • We bought our saddle bags for our dog on Amazon. It is amazing what it does to this hyper dog…as soon as it is strapped on, she calms down and is so happy. I think it is because it gives her something to do. She can carry her own food and water. Get one and make sure your dog is used to it. Begin by carrying nothing, then add one thing at a time so he/she will get used to the weight.

    • Houselord,

      Anything you need K9 related you can get from rayallen.com. I’m not affiliated with them, just a satisfied K9 handler/ customer for about 25 years. They are not cheap, but their equipment lasts. I still have my first dog’s leash (and use it) from 25 years ago.

      Encourager was absolutely correct in saying how to break your dog in slowly to get used to it.

      Good luck.

  17. I had a thought for those who will have to “bug out” with smaller family members. There are these folding grocery carts, I sued them in Europe. The only issue could be the narrow wheels, but if you got bigger wheels and a different axle, it should hold 40+ pounds of gear and still be foldable for storage/transport.

    Just a thought. I’m looking for something as my back won’t let me haul as much a I could 15 years ago.

  18. I’ve been prowling thrift shops for a grocery or luggage cart. Even a baby stroller. I’d like to score a jogging stroller for cheap (a well used & dirty should be cheap). A bike with a bike trailer would be so luxurious!
    When my kids were small, I used a big laydown stroller. Baby scootered back, toddler sitting in front, groceries on foot rest, underneath & in bag on handle. A lot of weight!! I walked to grocery store often, that babycart took some use.

  19. riverrider says:

    my bugout bag is my camper:)

    • I am with RR, my BOB is my camper, but we do have the packs for hoofing it.
      Mine will be anywhere from 20 to 46 lbs depending on if my husband is around to help carry daughters water. Also depending on what time of the year it is. Dry season, must have lots of water. I distribute the weight all over my body. But 46 lbs is alot. I am a tall strong woman, in good shape. I carry 50lb. feed bags all day, and I can hike forever, but my heavy pack is…heavy. This summer we are caching water along our route, which is BLM and Forest Service land. That will make me happy, not to need to carry so much water.

      I heavy pack will throw off your balance on a motorcycle and bicycle. You must distrubute the weight if you are using bikes. One wrong move and you are “ass over apple cart”.

      I will be very upset if we are forced to leave our home and can not take the camper. Very. We practice leaving with packs, but I do not intend on using them unless it is the very last line of survival. We live on an isolated farm and if that comes to pass, it means our home is gone.

      Another note, if you live in an area that is snowy and icy like we are right now. Try hoofing it with a heavy pack in that! You will have a whole new not so pleasant understanding of bugging out.

  20. Well how timely! I just revamped our BOB’s and then weighed them. Mine was 11#, hubby’s was 14.5#. Now, mine does not include my ammo or weapon or more than one water bottle. So that weight will go up.

    We are both in our mid 60’s so I know we cannot carry a heavy bag far.

    • I really need to stop calling them BOB’s as they are actually Get-Home-Bags. We have no where to bug out to; the family will be bugging out to our place. We need to grab those bags every time we leave the house in our car…hard to train ourselves to do, but very necessary. We also need to keep hiking shoes in the car at all times so we can change into them. Note to self: get doing!

      • Encourager,
        You are buggin out …from work to home. Y

        • sorry…posted without me being done!
          Yes it’s important to always take your gear with you when you go out. I’d say leave it in the car but that won’t work if you use more than one car plus foods and meds don’t like extreme hot and cold. DW is always on me about my bags,BOB,shootin bag,gym bag,diaper bag,EDC bag,hiking bag,work bag…looks like I’m movin out every morning and back again at night. But I know the one time I don’t have it….

        • Encourager says:

          Big D, No, we are retired. So we need to remember to take them when we go out and about, such as grocery shopping, etc. The last few times we have gone out, I have worn my hiking shoes. But forgot the GHB’s! Arggg! Senior moments!!

  21. We have Get Home Bags in each of the vehicles. Those are 72 hour type bags and are basically hip sacks with water bottles. They weigh about 10lbs. They have enough in them to get home from wherever, or to survive a bit if we slid off the road during a snow storm, or got lost in the woods. We use them regularly hiking, fishin, hunting. Each holds power bars, water making pills, water, multi tools, fire starters, signal whistles, lighters, first aid, trash bags, and gloves, headlamps, radios. We also have bags for weapons and ammo. Each vehicle has good coats, boots and blankets or sleeping bags during the winter months, along with more water. At all times. We live near wilderness areas and spend a fair amount of time out,
    so it makes sense.

    Our best bet right now is to shelter in place here, or to get our preps to a family member’s home. We are working on changing that this year to a BOL.

    If we have to Bug out, we would hopefully be able to bring our camp
    trailer. If not, we would hopefully be able to bring one of our vehicles
    with all the spare gear stashed. If not, we will resort to dirt bikes (ours are EMP proof) our bicycles, or worst case, on foot with our backpacks. We do have multiple levels of choices according to the scenario.

    What is hard is to figure out what level of threat would dictate each of these scenarios.

    Our large packs feel too heavy to me. I am 50ish, and too heavy. So I will have to work on it. But I did see a nifty DiY trail trailer on YouTube, and may just have to make one as I age, this is not going to get any better.

    At home, we have larger full backpacks for each person in the family. Loaded and heavy with gear. If we had both packs at the same time, we
    would have some good redundancies, and some extras we could barter or gift.

    When you add a weapon or two, and ammo, then it really does get heavy. I hope we never have to Bug Out. Just thinking of it lights a fire under me to get the BOL in place. Our family is having serious talks about that now.

  22. MD,
    My BOB weighs in at about 50lbs, without any firearms and with a Camelback resivour and two quart canteens. I will have some gear on me in my pockets and on my belt. Smaller gear bags with additional supplies that can come along I’m sure total weight is easily 110lbs. Yes thats alot to carry but I can stash/trade/use up or just plain leave what I have to.General rule of thumb is 1/3 body weight. Again a little over but it’s modular, could even be divided among others.Another good rule if it’s worth having one,you better have three. Divide them up,keep your eggs in different baskets in case one gets lost/stolen/damaged. We also have a jogger stroller and a double stroller/bike trailer for the kids and gear. All of this sounds like a good plan but it can change quickly if I’m carrying wounded or children.
    Some of my must have items:
    folder- Benchmade 710
    multitool-Leatherman Charge TTI
    fixed-Timberline Zambezi
    machete-Kershaw Kukri
    first aid kit
    200′ paracord
    light-Streamlight Pro tac HL
    Pro tac 2L
    Microstream
    fire-Blastmatch striker
    Storm proof matches
    Cabelas wind proof lighter
    vaseline soaked cotton balls
    Tinder tabs
    small Bruton 10-30×25 monocular
    Bushnell 10×42 Trophy XLT binoculars
    Mace triple action pepper/mace
    2 handkercheifs 1 camo 1 blaze orange
    fishing/sewing/repair kit
    signal mirror
    magnifing card
    large space type blanket
    tube tent
    2 quart size freezer bags
    2 gallon size freezer bags
    tons more that will require a bigger article,but you get the idea.

  23. I don’t really have a BOB. I have a GHB. It only requires extra ammo, socks, communications device, hygiene items, minimal food, knife. I will also pick up weight because of a change from shoes to boots and weight of my weapons that will be on my person. Water is the biggest consideration here. Any fool that tries to bug out in the heat of a Texas summer will soon find themselves on the side of the road with heat stroke. I don’t care what shape you’re in. The sun at the height of the day will turn you into a dehydrated human. So all travel will have to be done in the late evening or early morning. A mylar blanket can not only provide shelter it can collect water from the atmosphere in a pinch. Siesta’s aren’t because we’re lazy. It’s the smart thing to do.

    • Mexneck I live in Las Vegas…so I have the same problems. At 8lbs a gallon water is very hard to find so you had better have some stashed somewhere you can camp for a while. Heck it barely rains during the winter here!!!! You are right on about the mylar blanket…reflects the sun during the day (to sleep under in the heat of the day)and reflects your body heat (to help keep your warm) during the night. You can cook during the day and freeze during the night. Better have your skills together if you bugout where we live. Have a good one. Rusty

  24. My bug out bags clothes are tucked away in a grunt roll.
    That’s when your skivvys are rolled into a sock.