Preventing and Getting Rid of Roaches now and post SHTF



How to get rid of roaches – The definitive guide. by Tia G.

1x1.trans Preventing and Getting Rid of Roaches now and post SHTFPest problems are something I am sure we have all thought of for our post SHTF plans. We all work at making sure we have plenty of protection against the two-legged pests, and have given a lot of thought to the four-legged variety. I have only seen the creepy-crawly ones mentioned a few times so I figured I would bring up my experience with the lowest of the lows, the roach.

Growing up, I had the pleasure of never seeing a roach, except on T.V. I grew up with the assumption that only dirty people had roaches. When I moved to Texas, I found out how wrong that assumption was. Even the cleanest of homes can get infested with roaches and it doesn’t take much.

My first apartment in Texas appeared to be clean. Nice neighborhood, clean grounds, the apartment itself looked and “smelled” clean, all the stuff you look for when moving into an apartment. I didn’t know the signs to look for, or even that I needed to look, for a roach infestation. Within a week I seen my first roach. It was huge and it flew right into my hair. I found out later it was a wood roach or a palmetto bug. Did I mention it flies? After an hour long shower, and scrubbing my hair a dozen times, I was fine. After all, the bug was outside and I was inside, so I was safe-right? Wrong!

My first midnight foray into the kitchen proved just how wrong I was. There were roaches everywhere on the floors and counters. Of course, I didn’t have any kind of bug spray, I didn’t even have a flyswatter. I went around with a flip flop smacking all them I could catch while doing the “ewwwe dance.” The next morning I stormed the managers office complaining. I was practically laughed out of the office with the advice to go and buy some roach spray. I keep a clean house, and this is probably some kind of a fluke, some roach spray should get rid of them, so I believed. That started my two year battle with them.

You can name any brand of roach spray, gel, trap, bait, and fogger, and I will guarantee that I have tried it. I moved into a different apartment that sprayed on a weekly basis. I cleaned, and cleaned, and cleaned some more. All food was kept in an airtight container or in the fridge. Nothing seemed to help. When I sprayed, it was like they spread. When when I used the baits, they seemed to multiply. When I fogged, they would disappear for a day or two, and then would be back in full force. It got so bad I was seeing them not only at night but during the day.

My breaking point happened over two events. I went to make a pot of coffee and there were roaches crawling all over and in my coffee pot (to this day I still drink instant coffee) and my daughter got up from the table during breakfast, came back and there were roaches all over her food. I freaked out. I had tried everything I could think of to get rid of them and nothing was working. How do people live like this? How do people get away from them? I tried moving and they just packed themselves into my stuff and moved with me. I keep my house clean as can be, I even tried pouring straight bleach on the counters and they seemed to enjoy playing in it.

After having my little breakdown, I had a thought pop into my head. “Know thy enemy.” No one said that it only applies to people. So what do I know about roaches? They are creepy and nasty. They carry disease, and would probably survive a nuclear holocaust. Time to do some research.

I learned so much about them, things I never wanted to know. It confirmed that I NEEDED to get rid of them, but that the approach I was taking would NOT work. Here are three things that told me I needed to find a different way:

1) Roaches can eat and survive off of pretty much anything. From that microscopic crumb that got left behind, to the glue on book bindings, stamps, and envelopes. They will also eat body parts that they shed and other dead roaches. So in essence, they can feed each other, and don’t need the food you have in your home.

2) Just like we build immunities to antibiotics and other medications, roaches can become immune to the chemicals we spray on/feed them.

3) They can hold their breath for an obnoxious length of time, 40 minutes. That means when you start spraying, unless you are hitting them directly they hold their breath and scurry off to a safe location, usually in another room. It works the same for the foggers, they hold their breath until they can find a pocket of fresh air the chemicals cant reach. So in spraying all the roach sprays, I effectively spread them throughout the apartment.

With those being some of my biggest problems, how do I work around it. An internet search on getting rid of roaches brought up so many sites selling pesticides, and all the exterminators, that I would never find what I needed that way. I did a search on “alternative ways to kill roaches” and it came up with mixed results. Where I struck pay dirt was when I looked up “natural ways to kill roaches.” On site after site, three things kept popping up. Diatomaceous Earth (DE), boric acid, and baking soda.

Here are my results for each:

Diatomaceous Earth: I found that it does kill roaches if you can actually get it on them. The problems were that you do not want to breathe this stuff in so it really limited where all you could place it, and the roaches avoided it. Where it really helped was that I was able to put it in the dog and rabbit food. It was safe for my pets to eat, and yet kept the roaches out.

*****NOTE: if you buy DE make sure you buy the FOOD GRADE as the stuff they sell for pool filters is very toxic to people and pets.

Boric acid: I first tried Borax as I had some in the house. The problem with the borax is it caked really easy and would not work. I then bought the both the powder and tablet form of boric acid. I believe this to be the reason I am now roach free. The powder form I found at the dollar store for $3 a bottle and the tablets I found at a grocery store for around the same price. I put the tablets under all appliances, in the back and corners of my cabinets, and anywhere I didn’t want loose powder.

I put the powder in a very thin line around all baseboards, on my book cases, and anywhere else I needed a large area covered. I would sprinkle it all over my floors and counters at night before going to bed, cleaning it up in the morning. It was not a quick success by any means. It took a couple of weeks for me to notice a difference and a couple of months before I completely stopped seeing them. The trick with boric acid is to put it in very thin lines other wise the roaches will go around or jump over it.

Note: be very careful using boric acid on and around areas that you prepare food. It is toxic.

Baking soda: here is where I started and had my least amount of success. The roaches were not interested in the baking soda by itself. When mixed with sugar (which is the most recommended) it became a hard sticky mess, at least in my high humidity area. It did work if you changed it out everyday so the mixture would be fresh, but you couldn’t spread it out like with the boric acid.

It took about six months of trying all the different techniques, and finding the one that worked in my home. In the end, although I believe it to mainly be because of the boric acid, I used a mixture of the three things. I used the DE in the pet food, the boric acid pretty much everywhere else, and I would fill bottle caps with the baking soda/sugar mix and put them up as bait stations through out the house in problem areas, making sure they walked through the boric acid to get to them.

I have now been roach free for 4 years. Even now, and after moving into a house, I keep lines of boric acid down behind the baseboards, and the tablets in my cabinets and under appliances. I still buy DE to mix with the animal food. The boric acid, as long as it is kept dry, will last for years. Some easy measures to take so that if/when SHTF and sanitation becomes an issue, it is one less thing for us to worry about.

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  1. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    Indoor cats. Most of them love to hunt and anything that flies or crawls indoors is fair game. A reminder, if you do have indoor pets, be careful where you spray, they can be poisoned by getting it on their feet and licking it off.

    • Must depend on the cat, cats I’ve seen ignore them, maybe the ones here taste bad?
      As for spreading thin lines of powders, you might try a squeeze bottle with a narrow tip. The ones restaurants use for ketchup and mustard. I haven’t tried this, just an idea. I keep one with olive oil next to the stove, very handy.

      • ‘Taste bad’ means the roaches, not the cats.

      • Male cats are more prone to hunt and explore than female cats are as an observation . Always had ” Toms ” growing up and like j.r guerra said , they are nocturnal and are wide awake and bored while you sleep . I always found dead bugs in the morning . Down here we have nasty bugs you want dead like scorpions . That is why to this day I always wear socks and have always had a cat . As another observation , a siamese mix seems to be a lot smarter than than most . Also had an old farm cat that was a Maine Coon mix , that one could beat up or chase away most dogs lol .

        • Also , like any pet , it depends on the animals age , the younger the cat is , the more active and curious it will be , they age faster than we do and an older animal will loose interest in hunting more because they are feeling the aches and pains of age .

        • Tricia in NC says:

          I have a Maine Coon mixed he intimidates my 100 lb dog.

          • My maine coon intimidates coyotes, but my siamese mix is the hunter.

            • When I lived out in Green Valley , Late at night I would sometimes hear this sound that would make your hair stand up ………. sounded cross between a scream and a baby crying . This guy at work told me that it was Bobcats making the sound , trying to mimic an injured animal to lure in coyotes and other small scavengers . Dont know if thats true or not but he also said in the case of luring coyotes , it was to rid their hunting territory of competition .

            • charlie (NC) says:

              T.R.

              I’m afraid you missed that one all together. That noise you heard was clearly the Jolly Green Giant
              after eating way too many green beans! LOL

          • There is a new breed called a Savannah , its a cross breed from a domestic and an african wild cat , they are huge ! and get mistaken for a zoo escape when they get out . The big trend now is cross breeding with the larger wild varieties , which pound for pound , makes for a nasty house pet against an intruder . A few years back , we had a bad drought down here in southern AZ , and the bobcats were coming into Green Valley to get water from swamp coolers . A few got rabies and attacked golfers in broad daylight . They may be ” smaller ” but they tore the golfers a new a$$h#l& before they were put down .

  2. Amateur Gardener says:

    I recall one incident with a solitary roach of Herculean proportions – due to property adjacent to apt I was in at the time, being demolished. My cats came nose to nose with it and backed off . After what seemed an entire can of Raid for one bug, it gradually died – at which point I had to open the doors and run an oscillating fan to clear the air – thankfully ‘it’ didn’t have friends. I’d have washed my hair for an hour too! Thanks for the info on boric acid! And a great laugh too!

  3. Prep Now [so.fl.] says:

    Boric is the best for ants roaches any thing that crawls. We put in under new cabinets during a remodel in the kitchen and bath, all along base boards and backs of shelves in the pantry, everywhere pets and kids will stay out of it. We even put some in a shop vac, hooked the hose up to the exhaust port and blew it through the attic space. The stuff kills termites too. Silverfish,,,etc,etc. You can even mix some with syrup and set out drops of it for traps for the ants. For mice and rats use the sticky pads to capture them. We sprinkle the powder in our food storage areas too.

  4. button crazy says:

    Do not keep paper sacks, newspapers they love them. Also leave potatoes outside the house overnight, then open the sack and take only the potatoes in the house. In Texas getting the roaches out of a house, apartment is not an easily thing to do. Even now that i live where roaches are not a common thing. I still do not keep paper sacks, newspapers. Boric acid is about the only way to get rid of roaches that I know of. Spraying helps but won’t keep them from being there.

  5. Good article but it misses a whole bunch of points. When treating roaches you must go into the areas they rest and breed. Roaches hide in cracks and crevices and just about anywhere it is dark. To find these places look for concentrations of fecal mater.

    Roaches do not like to be in the light. If you are seeing them in the light then you are totally infested with them. Roaches will live in ovens, toasters and even refrigerators. They will live inside walls. If you have one female roach that is pregnant it only takes a month for a home to be totally infested.

    Roach control first starts with total cleanliness. True roaches can survive on just about anything so they sure don’t need our help.

    Treatment should be with a residual insecticide. This should be applied in all cracks and crevices you can possible find. Spraying it on external surfaces that are washed off is a waste of time and money.

    Preventing cockroaches has to be a conscious effort. Roaches can be brought in to your home in many ways. A common way is through corrugated cardboard boxes. All those little groves are ideal roach motels. Obtaining goods at yard sales and used good stores (Goodwill and such) are also ways people roaches into their homes.

    Most grocery stores have very stringent pest control program so it is rare when you bring them home from that source BUT it does not preclude that you won’t. Grocery stores shelves are often stocked by the supplier for many items and they can introduce roaches to the store. Also many small local mom and pop type stores can have roaches.

    Restaurants often have roach problems and you may not even know it. Look again for roach infestation by looking under the table and chairs for fecal mater. Roaches can crawl into your clothes, packages and pocketbooks to be brought home.

    If you neighbor has roaches in an apartment then eventually you will get them too. Roaches will travel via pipe and electrical runs. In most cases kitchens and bathrooms in different apartments are located on either side of the same wall to save on piping expense. This creates ideal roadways from one apartment to another.

    Finally if you find you are overwhelmed with a roach infestation and can not get it eliminated consider a professional service. Most professional services can eliminate a roach problem in 2-3 visits. Why does it take so many visits? Simply because the roaches you kill will have dropped their egg sack and sometimes that egg sack can be in areas that have not been treated or even in the treated area the eggs will hatch and then start the process all over again.

    Once again the key to getting rid of roaches is getting the roach control product into the cracks and crevices they love to live in.

    • since moving to arkansas several years ago, i have noticed only one roach in the house. it was the roach from hell and to make matters worse, it had wings and could fly! d.h had to dispatch the thing back to the darkest regions of the universe. (i can handle spiders, ticks etc. but not roaches). i haven’t found out yet if roaches just don’t like arkansas or if they don’t like to hear a middle aged screaming her head off.

      • karla from colorado says:

        pam s:
        hahaha!! I’m with ya! hate those %$&%*#% roaches, but can tolerate the pests most people freak over.
        :)

    • I miss the old days of DDT , that worked !!!!!

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Yeah, DDT was actually good stuff. I read somewhere a few years ago that it wasn’t responsible for the decline of the Bald Eagle, as the environmentalists and scientiests claimed. Another scam perpetrated on the American public.

        • templar knight says:

          “Another scam perpetuated on the American public.”

          Yes, it was just a scam in the US, but the ban resulted in millions of deaths due to malaria in the Third World. Another one of those laws with unintended consequences that liberals are so guilty of. Of course, in the mind of some enviros, the death of millions is a feature and not a bug of the law.

        • Yep ! thanks to the sandal wearin , pony tail grown , granola eatin , pot smokin libs ….. its gone :(
          I remember you had to leave the house for at least 10 hours after spraying , but I tell ya , the bugs were gone for a LONG time after you sprayed . It was good stuff .

  6. As I am not apposed to sprays I use that clear stuff from Wally World. Mainly because it does not smell. And it works.
    I live on an alley and my side is the side that all the garbage cans get set for pickup. I spray about once a year at the baseboards only and have to spray the house first. If we spray outside they come inside and that is even with lawn care products.
    I have also noticed that since we have ferile cats and they love under my house that the bugs have been down a bit. And the mice.
    Except for the ants. We will get ants at the weirdest times of the year. Right before it turns winter and in the hottest time of the year. I have foodsaver’d my sugar to keep them out. And I have to watch opened bottles of syrup.
    Another thing that will get worse in times of trouble and we have to stock up for.

  7. My mother told me about boric acid 40 years ago. She told me it worked for roaches and for ants as a matter of fact. I haven’t got a roach issue in my environs, but think that I will put it on the shopping list because I sure struggle with ants when the weather turns cold.

  8. Really nice post! I have a pier and beam home. When we first moved here there was lovely ivy growing in the flower beds and on the house which I thought was so pretty. One night I went outside and could hear the ivy moving around. Wondering what it was, I went and got a flashlight (not a pink one) and investigated. It was alive with roaches. I began noticing them in the house. During the day they would stay under the house where it was cool and moist and venturing out at night when the temperatures cooled down. Needless to say, the ivy was uprooted and destroyed. I had to lay down black sheeting and put white rock on it to destroy the ivy completely.

    Now, I grew up in West Texas and we didn’t have roach problems…you might see one once a year, but this began my struggle with the fastest crawling critters you ever saw. It was like they knew I was afraid of them and would advance on me with their head held high. I love the winter time here because they go undercover and I don’t see as many.

    I use the borax, too, and it has helped. Now, I am not afraid of spiders or snakes, but put a roach next to me and if you are in my escape path, you will be hurt.

  9. GOD I hate those things.. I have never had them but have seen at lots of people houses and High Dollar eateries!!!, Hope I do not.
    ever get em.. The big one up here in Ohio they call water bugs to be polite? My rear end water bugs, it is a ROACH.. As you can tell I hate em.
    If the shtf I am afraid we will have them everywhere..
    Help a buddy who installing under the sink r.o. purifiers. In nice clean homes. They were every where one lady did not know what they were!!
    I had one almost get in my place went to the grocery store
    set the paper bag on the counter and saw this little set of antennas start to poke out. GOT him.. It sent me into a cleaning frenzy like I never did before.. They love to take trips home with you from grocery stores with you !! Even make a grown man go ewwww!! I never saw one till I left my parent house 45 years ago and do not want to see any in my house..
    The little brown german roaches up north here move at the speed of light..
    Watch Billy the exterminator. Some of his job are a roach nightmare..
    Now that boy deals with some roach problems.. I do not know what cable channel he is on I got rid of cable.

    You can also put the boric acid around the exterior of your house.
    to help. Also and in the basement along the to of the foundation.
    or concrete block or header. And under trailers to keep em out.

    I have been exposed to to many of houses were we rehabbed and the walls were full of dead ones when we were replacing sheet-rock..
    I mean 6 inches deep between the studs.
    ( they were not nice new neighborhoods then)
    Sorry about the soap box I am stepping down..I hate me..

    GOOD LUCK with your the roaches.. If nothing else we may be getting revenge if the shtf they are supposed good to eat if cooked and seasoned right Free Food.. And there will be plenty of them. I wander if you
    put em back canned, mylar bag ect?? Use as croutons!
    I am gone
    thatAway

  10. Excellent information. Although I have never had problems with roaches, and have never even seen one (knock on wood), I can bet you anything they will be a problem later on. Printing this to keep for later…

  11. My wife used boric acid when we were in an apartment. The neighbors had roaches we didn’t. I’ve heard some folks advocate mixing it with a bit of sugar as bait. I can’t say that we ever did.

  12. GT Urban Prepper says:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Living in Texas so far has been a rather eye opening experience. In GA, just south of Atlanta, I never saw roaches unless it was particularly wet outside, summer to fall changes in weather, or the food had been left out too long. I move to Texas and they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. They won’t leave. I will try the boric acid with baking soda and sugar traps asap.

    • GT, dont forget that it will take a while to work completely. If you can, get both the powder form and the tablet form. The tablets also have a bait in them. I dont know how bad they are for you but some areas you may want to think about treating are
      behind the walls (we knocked a couple of small wholes and then patched them up after)
      under the kitchen cabinets- just be prepared to be swarmed if you lift up those boards.
      any kind of paperwork you have. I put a bunch of tablets in my filing cabinet as they are attracted to paper.
      We pulled the covers off the light switches and puffed some boric acid in those, they are also attracted to electricity. Dont forget to keep things unplugged that you arent using, it wont keep them out of it but it might help a bit.
      I even dusted the walls with boric acid behind pictures and other wall hangings.

      Good luck, they do seem to be a part of living in Texas, but for me the fewer I see the happier I am.

  13. I think the biggest issue is having a plan thatis works now and that you can sustain after SHTF. If you use an exterminator now, later it will be a failure and you will end up totally infested. Honestly in a SHTF situation, it will be almsot impossible to defend in an apartment as its unlikely that everyone will help adaquately.

    For me, I have a granual based product from the local home store that takes 1 treatment a year and we are good. I have enough for 3 years right now. But realistically if there were a permanent disaster, bugs would just be soemthing we’d haev to get more used to.

  14. SrvivlSally says:

    Tia G.,
    Thank you for a really good article concerning roaches. I appreciate the fact that it was written by someone with first-hand experience. Like you, I once lived with roaches so I know exactly what life was like for you. Boric acid, as you probably know, is slow acting so it can take upwards of three months for decent results to be seen. In regards to DE, I had heard that it was safe to give to pets and, knowing that you have used it, I may give it a try if I am ever faced with them again. For surviving a shtf event or teotwawki, I agree that having Boric Acid on hand would make the difference between keeping people and their living environments free of the germ carriers. In my opinion, I believe that, since the roaches will eat their dead just as ants do, one got hold of a another that died after it had ingested the Boric powder and death followed for every single one that did the same.

  15. Mother Earth says:

    OMG…I hate roaches! I will stay in the bitter cold before living in the south (no offense meant). Had them once in an apt in SoCal and could never do that again. Wish I knew about boric acid then. Think I’m going to get some just because of this article. I am very glad to live rural with a well and septic tank, so I don’t have to share water/sewage lines at least. Ewww…good article even if I’m grossed out.

  16. Excellent article. My wife and I have been lucky and never had a roach problem. I will keep the article for post SHTF possibilities.

  17. We don’t have roaches where I am from, and I don’t believe I have ever seen one in person….from what I read that is a good thing. This article does bring up a good prepping point for me and that is any sort of infestation problem that can arise after or during a SHTF. This article is making me rethink my supply list for poisons, wasp killers, mouse traps ect…
    Well Done!!

  18. texasmomma says:

    This article brought up my roach in hair PTSD. Gotta love Texas. We have a mosquito misting system attached to the eaves of our house. I guess it keeps the crawly critters away as well. Also when we cleared our land we cut down almost all Pine trees which the big flying ones are attracted to.

  19. Thank God I’ve never had a roach problem but I did have a horrific flea infestation one year. We didn’t even have indoor pets at the time but they were so bad outside that you could see them jumping as you walked through the grass. I did about the same as you and tried every chemical sold in stores and bombed the whole house multiple times and it did nothing. I ended up using Borax everywhere. I saturated the house with three full boxes and left it sit for about three days and then vacuumed everything and immediately dumped the bag outside. It worked. We didn’t have a single flea after that, so I will heartily agree that it is a great way to get rid of a bug problem!

  20. Jarhead 03 says:

    Chinese Miraculous Insecticide Chalk, THIS STUFF WORKS!
    Do a search for it, we used it growing up when we had German Roaches infestations that would creep over from new neighbors that brought them over when moving in.

    It is a form of boric acid and baking soda in a chalk stick form. We would draw a line around toasters, other equipment and along their paths, pantry and around the fridge, faucets and sinks.

    The next morning we would find hundreds dead having to sweep them up and over the few days less and less dead until we saw no more.
    Never had an issue with our dogs wanting to lick or sniff it, seemed like they knew it was bad stuff but I suggest if you have house pets to keep them away. I may go and buy a few boxes thanks to this post.

  21. karla from colorado says:

    I ****HATE***** roaches!!! I would’ve screamed my head off if one flew into my hair – and I NEVER scream! haha!
    I can tolerate mice, snakes, bats, worms, crickets, moths, pretty much whatever critters are around – but n.o.t. roaches! Did I say I HATE roaches???
    Thanks for the good info, Tia G.!!

  22. I think all of you are missing the point here. They will be a good source of protein if there is no other food available!!! Back in my poor college student days I noticed that if I saw on and sprayed it with windex or fantastik they would just run away, but if I had 409 that would drop them in their tracks. Always splurged on 409 from then on. 98% of the college rental housing was pretty well infested and you just had to put up with it. As long as they did not crawl on my face while I was alseep I did not worry about them too much. Thank god I do not have to put up with them now.

  23. Copperhead says:

    Great post, Tia G!! Borax and boric acid are both on my shopping list. My problem is crickets, maybe boric acid will work on them.

  24. Hunker-Down says:

    I was in the roach wars as owner of an 8 flat in a Chicago suburb about 35 years ago. I could go on and on, but here’s a summary:

    Try to get the roaches to decide to leave. If they have no food or water they will leave. That’s hard to do. A spatter of grease on the wall from frying an egg will feed a colony for a month. They eat the paste you used when you hung wallpaper. They can get water from the condensation of the copper pipes leading to your sink. They can get water from the drip pan under your refrigerator. If you call in an exterminator he can kill the live roaches but the egg cases in the walls he cant get to will insure that there will be another hatch.

    We began to win the war with the following strategy. Remove all wallpaper. Eliminate all water leaks ESPECIALLY from pipes in the walls. A pinhead leak can spray and wet an area 3-4 feet from the leak. Fix it. As part of preparing an apartment for a new family I used a medium sized screwdriver and poked a hole about 2 inches above typical counter height between every set of studs in the walls and under the windows in every room. Then I ‘puffed’ in boric acid into every hole, then covered the hole with wallboard mud, then painted. The reason for applying boric acid between every stud is because some studs had copper plumbing that produced condensation. That condensation caused the boric acid to harden so that the roaches could walk on it without harm. Boric acid between the studs that did not have plumbing pipes remained dry.The boric acid that stays dry is effective, the roaches picked it up on their feet and bodies, licked it off, absorbing it and died. The females that were carrying egg sacks would propagate the species even after they died, but if the boric acid stayed in powder form (dry) it would kill the newly hatched as they began to move around.
    You will continue to have roaches until all the egg sacks hatch.

    It only took about 5 years of fighting the roach wars to figure this out.

  25. blindshooter says:

    20 mule team, kills bugs and you can use it to flux with if you forge weld. It’s fairly cheap and I think it keeps so I have several boxes in storage. After reading this I might stack up a few more…

    OT, I had to put down my old dog today. He was my best friend, never complained about my habits and always seemed to be happy to see me come home unlike the last wife. I will have to wait a while before I decide to get another, they are great sentry’s but it’s hell when they get old.

    • MtWoman (N Texas) says:

      So sorry about your dog blindshooter. That’s hard. Here’s a link to something that I really like, called “The Rainbow Bridge”. I really like the idea that all our pet friends are waiting for us; true or not, I find the thought comforting. http://www.petloss.com/rainbowbridge.htm

      • Mt Woman…that was lovely…made me cry. One minute I am reading about how to get rid of roaches, next am crying about our pets who have passed over …

    • Mother Earth says:

      Blindshooter, so sorry to hear about your dog. It is so painful to lose pets, they are like family.

    • templar knight says:

      Man, that’s rough, blindshooter. I hate to hear that. I said I would never get another dog after the last one got hit by a car. My daughter got one, and she has ended up mine. I wouldn’t take $10,000.00 for her now. I think you better get you a new best friend. Even if you have to wait a while, a new dog is a breath of fresh air, and they will put a spring in your step.

    • blindshooter, sorry about the loss of your dog…I know how it feels to have to put an old dog down – still tearing up now as I write this, and it has been years…he was the best companion.

      • blindshooter says:

        Thanks everybody for the kind words, don’t think I’ll get anther dog soon. My job takes me away too much to train and look after one right. If my work changes or I lose my job I’ll probably get another dog. Maybe a pair of beagles, I used to run rabbits with them in my youth.

    • blindshooter. i am so sorry to hear about your “best friend”. i firmly believe that our little furry ones will be with us in heaven and until that time he’ll be with you in your heart. take care.

    • I am sorry for the loss of your dog. It is rough when we lose a friend like that.

    • blindshooter,
      Sorry to hear about your best friend.

  26. for ants use corn meal. they eat it and it expands, killing them with no chems.

  27. charlie (NC) says:

    If you live in the S/E us from about where I am on the central coast of NC south Palmetto bugs are a way of life. We don’t have many but starting about 40 miles south of here they are a constant companion.
    Many years ago I was part owner of a restaurant in Wilmington NC. On the day we were opening the health inspector was there to make sure we were up to standard and to issue our permit. To my horror a big ole Palmetto bug crawled right up the inside of a front window right in front of the inspector. I started to apologize profusely out of fear that she wouldn’t issue the license. She said “oh, we don’t even worry about them. They aren’t roaches and aren’t know to carry disease and they are everywhere” (or words to that effect. It was 30 years ago).

    Cockroaches are another thing all together and are pretty nasty.

  28. MtWoman (N Texas) says:

    Great article, Tia G., and something to really think about, both post-SHTF and NOW.

    I believe there already are changes in vermin problems. Here in N Texas, the last 3 warmer-than-usual winters have not killed off the mosquito larvae and other insect “next generations” as a usual ‘sustained-cold’ Winter would. We’ve averaged in the 50s so far this Winter, with temps in the 60s and 70s for days at a time, broken by just a couple days here and there of freezing and cold temps. I looked in our (open) 55 gallon rain-water drums yesterday, and found mosquito larvae in them; had to put “mosquito dunks” in them…unheard of for Christmas week, at least for us. And last night, there were moths on the dining window and today a fly in the kitchen…..other unusual things for this time of year.

    Fortunately, we haven’t had any roaches in a couple of months…BUT we ARE dealing with the tiniest mouse I’ve ever seen that the cat brought in and let go. It’s been in the house for 3 days now…an occasional little grey blur in the corner of my eye. Convincing my father to trap it is difficult…I think I’ll just have to do it myself. The cat now just sits and watches wherever the mouse is at the time. Her entertainment, I guess. Stupid cat.

    BTW…those “mosquito dunks” work really well, and don’t foul the water like oil does.

    • charlie (NC) says:

      I live in coastal NC. We’ve had several nights below freezing this fall. Yesterday I was working on my tractor in the yard and killed 3 mosquitoes trying to bite my arm. They never seem to go away here. One or two warm days and they are back out.

      • blindshooter says:

        charlie (NC), do you live near Wilmington? I have to drive down to Southport for work sometimes(Brunswick Nuclear Plant), except for the storms I’d love to live there.

        • charlie (NC) says:

          I’m 85 miles north of Wilmington in Craven County and about 120 miles or so from Southport. I have family in the Wilmington area and know it well but only get down there 3 or 4 times a year. Years ago I used to do a lot of industrial maintenance work in the Archer Daniel Midland plant right down the road, more or less behind the Brunswick Nuclear Plant. The place was owned by Pfizer Chemical at the time. It makes citrus acid for the pharmaceutical and soft drink industry.

          The storms are really not that bad. Some folks live in vulnerable places and any storm we get floods them out but for the most part the cat 1 and cat 2 storms are survivable with minor damage. There is one every few years but they don’t always hit the same place. Of course sooner or later we will get a Katrina like event but there are risks or some sort of disaster anywhere you live.

    • One of my cats liked to hunt and bring in presents (some dead and some to proof how good a hunter he was). Although I never actually saw him bring them in, I truly believe he was responsible for bringing and then “losing” the foot long (tip of nose to tip of tale) RATS. Fortunately, he was also responsible for dispatching most of them (what he didn’t get my dad did).

  29. Years ago, while living out in the country south of Austin Texas, we had a roach problem. We fought them to a standstill for awhile and then the scorpians came along.
    For the scorpians I used 7-Dust. Sprinkled it out to 3 feet from the house and under it where I could. Inside it went under area rugs. Safe for pets as you can sprinkle and then rub it into their fur for ticks and flea protection.
    Anyway we stopped seeing scorpians and roaches went away after that.

    • Charlie (NC) says:

      Ron G, I wanted to make sure about something. Did you use
      Sevin Dust or 7 Dust? They are not the same product. 7 Dust is a little more agressive than Sevin. I was thinking that 7 Dust was not particularly pet friendly where as Sevin is basically the same material we used to buy as “flea powder” years ago.

      I know you said 7 Dust. I just wanted to make the distinction between the two for clarity.

      • Sorry. Sevin or Seven. Best to read the label. And yes I have used it on pets directly and safely.

        • charlie (NC) says:

          yes Sevin is ok on pets. The other product is shows on the label as “7″ Dust. Just like I typed it with the ” ” around the numeral 7. I have some of it around here somewhere. It’s a bit more nasty than Sevin.

  30. Garden Mom says:

    Great article -printing for the binder. Does anybody know what will get rid of bed bugs? We don’t have them, but I wonder if they will be a problem in a SHTF world.

    • Garden Mom, I’ve talked to several herbalists that say lavender essential oil is good for killing bed bugs. Put severl drops in your final rinse cycle when you wash your sheets, blankets, etc. I also put a few drops on an old washcloth and toss it in the dryer, (I like the frangrance). Use a spray bottle of water with lavender oil to spray the bed, pillows and carpet around the bed.

      The frangrance is also soothing and helps people to relax but always test first. Even though it is a natural substance some people will be allergic to it or not care for the frangrance.

  31. Glad to hear you got rid of your roach problem. There’s nothing worse than pesky uninvited “house guests”.

  32. We had the most horrible roaches in one rental we lived in. When we moved we bombed the moving truck and left everything sit for a couple of days. Then nothing moved directly into the house. We put it in a shed and only brought in one item at a time after thorough inspection. We still had problems in the new rental. After years of fighting them I did the same thing regarding research.

    I was in a duplex so every time I thought I got rid of them they went next door. I tried powdered borax for months and got no improvement so I purchased a past mixture of borax and sugar. I put that stuff everywhere – seriously. The gap between the cabinets and the soffit, the underside of the upper cabinets and their shelves, the underside of the drawers, the underside of the counters. I pulled the drawers and put streaks of it along all the sides, top and bottom. I put it down the gap around the sink lines. I pulled the fridge and stove. It went on the walls and along the baseboards. Then it went along the back and sides where they were out of reach. I pulled baseboards and the surrounds on doors just enough to put it behind them, and then nailed them back down. I paid a fortune to get enough stuff to do this but in the end it killed them. Within 6 months I wasn’t even seeing the slightest sign of roaches, and my neighbor wanted to know what I had done because he wasn’t seeing them either.

    When I finally moved into my new home everything went into the detached garage and then was slowly filtered into the house. When we did remodeling stuff I put the mixture back behind counters and under cabinets in the foot space. In the bath & kitchen it went anywhere it could that had moisture (and that was pretty much going to be completely inaccessible later). Then we unpacked. I used the same level of care that we had used moving into the duplex. End result – one dead roach in a box. 5 years later we seem to be okay and I keep an eye out for any surprises.

  33. Lived in Hawaii for a few years – cockroaches are as common as earthworms, but they fly and like hair… and toothpaste…and the bottom of your rubber slippers you leave outside… kinda like a horror film but it makes a mess if you squish them.

    Boric acid is sold at dollar stores in containers that look like 1 qt mustard dispensers.

    Permethrin, if you can get it, is a magic talisman – nobody knows if it will kill a roach or any other kind of bug because none will come close enough to tell.

  34. Great suggestions about the roaches, thanks! But I’ve got a little bit different problem here. Does anyone out there in the Wolf Pack know a good natural way to get rid of fleas? My dogs bring them in and I can’t get rid of them for anything! Spray all over, set off bug bombs, it doesn’t work. I’ve had them jump on me while I’m gathering up the empty bub bomb canisters! Any ideas are most welcome. Did find out that bathing the dogs with Dawn dishsoap kills the fleas faster than the fancy flea shampoo, but I want them out of my house too.
    Bill

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Bill, I’ve been through that this year. I’ve never seen a flea problem like we had this year. This will work.

      First go to your Vet and get a pill called Comfortis. Give it to your dog. It will absolutely kill any flea on your dog for the next 30 days. Now, go get Hot Shot Foggers “with odor neutralizer”.
      They come in a green box. Make sure it’s the ones for fleas. The odor neutralizer is just an added benefit. They come in tall cans or short “concentrated” cans. Get the tall ones if you can. If not the concentrated works too. Set them off in your house as directed. Wait about 2 weeks and set off another set of Hot Shot. I’ll bet on that taking care of the problem.

      • We also use Comfortis, we are very fortunate in that one dose seems to last a year. Make sure that they have a full tummy when you give it to them. One of our boys will always get sick when we give it to them. But if he has a full tummy, it is not nearly as bad. We don’t use the foggers but do use borax. Sprinkle liberally on all furniture,floors ect, leave 24 hrs, vaccumn, and reapply, leave for 48 hrs, vac, and reapply. Leave for a week. Should be out of the house. Also wash all linens, pet beds ect, use borax in your wash. ( I make my own laundry soap, so it is always in my wash.)
        Good luck on removing the evil little things from your home.
        *If you are like me and severly allergic to bites from these as well as other insect bites Witch Hazel liquid will be your best friend. If I can get it applied to the bite quickly enough after the bite, I have found that I can avoid the trip to the ER that usually follows.

        • This past summer has been a horrible one for fleas. I got something from the vet (dont remember exactly what, some pill) I treated the inside of my house with the boric acid, and the outside wit beneficial nematodes. That seemed to take care of the problem for me.

    • To get rid of fleas one must understand a little bit about the flea life cycle.
      From Wikipedia
      Flea larvae emerge from the eggs to feed on any available organic material such as dead insects, feces, and vegetable matter. They are blind and avoid sunlight, keeping to dark places like sand, cracks and crevices, and bedding. Given an adequate supply of food, larvae should pupate and weave a silken cocoon within 1–2 weeks after 3 larval stages. After another week or two, the adult flea is fully developed and ready to emerge from the cocoon. They may however remain resting during this period until they receive a signal that a host is near – vibrations (including sound), heat, and carbon dioxide are all stimuli indicating the probable presence of a host. Fleas are known to overwinter in the larval or pupal stages.

      Once the flea reaches adulthood, its primary goal is to find blood and then to reproduce. Adult fleas only have about a week to find food once they emerge, but after that they can survive two months to a year between meals. Flea populations are unevenly distributed, with about 50% eggs, 35% larvae, 10% pupae, and 5% adults.

      Their total life cycle can be as short as two weeks, but may be several months in ideal conditions. Female fleas can lay 500 or more eggs over their life, allowing for phenomenal growth rates.

      As you can see above a single treatment or even repeating the treatment 2 weeks later is not adequate unless a residual insecticide is used. This means spraying your carpets, pet bedding and furniture if the animals frequent your furniture. Failure to do so will result in a reemergence later on and as you can see above it doesn’t take long for the population to explode.

      Once you’ve treated all the areas it’s important to allow everything to dry out. If you have to treat hardwood floors or any non porous surface it must remain dry. Wetting the surface causes the residual chemical to become more active and easily transferred to pets and humans which can cause rashes.

      I’ve treated hundreds of home with flea infestations and the above treatment method is the only way to get rid of serious flea infestations.

      “flea bombs” unless they release a residual treatment are worthless and not worth you money. They will only kill adult fleas and not the eggs. In fact nothing really kills the eggs and that is why a residual chemical must be used.

      I’ve been in empty houses and as soon as I walked in the door the little buggers where covering my lower legs and climbing. It’s very unnerving to look down and see hundreds of fleas on your legs.

    • bill- our dogs all use “comfortis”. the vet recommends every 30 days but for our dogs it is usually 60 days. it runs about 13.00 a pill.

    • I like to keep a patch of Fleabane growing where my pets can get to it. The flowers look like daisies, the critters like a good roll in it. Check wik for a quick writeup on it. Those old herbal cures have a longer history than those selling something else saying it don’t work, may not work as quick as other ways but it is more prevention than cure, And hey they brighten up the place, as I grow little that has no food value, flowers tend to mask the true purpose.

    • Seven Dust.

    • Boric acid is supposed to kill flea eggs by dehydrating the eggs, so sprinkle it on pet bedding, carpets, and furniture.

      DH read that original Dawn Dishwashing Soap kills fleas, so I tried it, WOW! I’d been washing my light colored dog for years with flea shampoo that had poison in it, only to watch the fleas hanging onto my dog’s hair even after I let the suds stay on the required time. But when I tried Dawn, the fleas were dead in less than a minute!!

      The next time I used Dawn on my dog, I started on his back, then noticed SO many fleas on the underside of his floppy ears that I almost got sick! The fleas evacuated from his back to the safety of his ears! So from then on, I started on his face, ears, and head (using a soapy washcloth on his face), then his tail and hind end, then the rest of him. It worked!

      We tried Dawn on the outside wild kittens I was taming and they tolerated it quite well. We set up three 5 gal buckets (since we had many kitties to wash/rinse – if only one pet, then just two buckets). Hubby held the kitties by their scruff, like their mamas do when transporting them – it does some kind of numbing of a nerve to “daze” them. DH learned it from a vet tech. I scrubbed the kitties while he held onto their scruff, then he dipped them in the rinse water. Five to six kittens and not a scratch on either of us!

      Once they dry off, fleas will get on them again, since Dawn isn’t poison. So make sure to borax, then repeat the borax in 3 weeks to catch the next cycle.

    • The flea problem needs to be fought on your dog. I used garlic (sold as garlic/yeast skin & fur treatment) pills to combat fleas. Every “blood” sucking bug hates garlic. You can give your dog a pill every day – I crush the pills and sprinkle into the food.

      Flea sprays, powders and liquid (applied to back in a “line”) just make the fleas move and hide harder. The garlic works from the inside – fleas (and ticks) cannot avoid it, cannot stand it.

      I used flea spray on the carpet and bedding once but, without the dog blood – the fleas disappeared. I did not use any bug bombs or any special treatment.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Michael C,

        you are 100% correct about selecting the flea battle field but I promise you Comfortis is the weapon of choice. I fought fleas on my Jack Russell for two summers with every natural, organic, or un-natural chemical remedy known to man. I’m talking garlic, chemical flea powders and shampoos, organic flea shampoos, all sorts of topical flea treatments, you name it we tried it. The one thing I never tried was Comfortis. Well my vet finally reminded me about it a year after she first told me and I tried it. I $13 pill and 3 hours later the battle was over! I followed up with Hot Shot foggers, one immediately and one 2 weeks later just to kill whatever was in the house and might be feeding on us or he cat but the dogs problems were over within 3 hours of taking the Comfortis pill. It seems expensive but believe me it is a bargain. On top of that it’s a small chewable and my dog eats it down like a treat.

  35. Uncle Charlie says:

    My mom always used borax and we never had roaches. By the way T.R., I’d rather have roaches than DDT in mother’s milk. According to my limited research, boric acid is of limited toxicity to humans, dogs or cats but still should be used with care.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=boric%20acid%20poisonous%20to%20pets&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFwQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpic.orst.edu%2Ffactsheets%2Fboricgen.pdf&ei=42rxTr70JYG_gAf27ZCnAg&usg=AFQjCNHV2FAOP1qTaghkXFOBCXGJnZWyZQ

  36. Tia, thank you, very good article…I normally just call in the professional exterminators whenever a house becomes vacant – but I am going to get lots of boric acid…this info is vital…

    A few weeks ago – in the house that I have just re-tenanted – had a couple of Brit backpackers (not insulting the Brits, as I lived and worked over there for a time and loved it and the people) to help me clean the interior of the rental – everything was great, radio playing, moving steadily through the rooms – got to the kitchen and I heard one of them shout with fright and he literally ran to where I was cleaning.

    He had pulled open a kitchen drawer and saw a huge cockroach (I had already had the place sprayed over a week earlier, and waited for the poison to take effect before I started cleaning).

    The other backpacker came out of another room with his bucket and cleaning rag to see what had happened – all the young man could do was point at the drawer…I knew it had to be roaches, so I pulled the drawer out completely and flipped it so the roaches would drop to the floor – and as I moved to stomp roaches to death – the 2 boys bolted, anywhere but where they were standing..it was a riot.

    Got the exterminator back to give the place another go over.

  37. Bluecollar scholar says:

    True Story: There was a woman in NYC whose aprtment was over run with roaches to the point she found them pouring out of her babies soiled diaper one night. The local officals “no help”. The local “slum lord” well… couldn’t be found. But a local pet store came to the rescue. They supplied her with….. Geckos!!! After a week of having about a dozen geckos released in her home. No more roaches. The pet store gathered most of them and left her 2-3 for no charge and with her permission ,the right to have her story told and the pet store mentioned by name. When the TV reported asked how could she stand having these lizards running around. She proudly replied a gecko or two underfoot is better then 2-3 hundred roaches. In a SHTF scenario maybe we should learn how to use natures common enemies. Like a classmate from college told me. Most houses in India have mongooses as pets. Not that his mother liked mongoooses but after finding a dead cobra in his bedroom. But he was safe and sound with his pet mongoose sleeping next to him. She never complained again.

  38. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    This just occurred to me. Since cockroaches are just about as indestructable as any living thing can be, and therefore will survive where other species die off, perhaps the roach should be this blog’s mascot. We could be members of the Roach Pack instead of the Wolf Pack. Has a nice sound to it, don’tcha think? Our BOVs would be Roach Coaches. Our bugout retreats would be Roach Hotels. And MREs would be Meals Roaches Enjoy.

    MD, replace those wolf silhouettes on your header with roaches.

    ROFLOL !!!!!

  39. Thanks Tia, although I knew about using borax, I didn’t know all the stuff you taught us.

  40. One of the best articles I’ve read in a long time, and I don’t have roaches.

  41. I hate roaches with a primal fire. I do not know what they did when building the barracks I lived in on Ft. Hood, Texas in the early 90′s but none of them had roaches. Something that the WW II barracs and the ones they started building in the mid 90′s can’t claim. All I can think is that they mixed a chemical into the buildings cement.
    I ended up switching to the Air Force and getting based in Japan. My first two years there I did not have a single roach in my off base appartment. I was also, the only American in the building. Then two American families moved in and brought little hitch hikers with them in their household goods. I never made the mistake of taking a darn toaster with me! A month later they were everywhere and needless to say the Japanese residents were not happy with Americans living there anymore. Turned out they were traveling through the Electrical System. I caught them dropping out of the flouresant Light fixture. Even as a trained soldier who has seen horrific things I stil cringed seeing them drop out of the light. Massive property wide chemical warfare ensued and we were liberated six months later.
    I am now a happy civilian living in Manila, Philippines and I tell you the roaches here should have voting rights. The four unit row house I live in now was infested. I invited my neighbors to a cookout outside to get to know them and bug bombs for all. Layed down (overused) Boric powder and everyone bombed their place at the same time. Now we have the ongoing ant wars. Terro is effective at killing off the collonies but there are so many it just seems to rotate whos territoy our place falls under this week. Black, brown, red and varried shades of the same. Now it is the tiny red ones who bite like the fire ants in Texas. These do not care if they eat the Terro or not. I need to find a way to cause a mass local extinction. Tips on this would be great! No Geckos for sale here. Just a Monitor Lizard living in my garden eating my tomatoes. Lizard can stay; it is cool.

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Bryce, back in your days in the Military the common method for termite treatment was Chloridane (sp) which is now illegal. It had a long residual life and killed roachs, spiders, etc. The stuff they use now just can’t get the job done.

  42. Harold Dean says:

    I too came from a roach free background and after marrying and starting a family, we have lived in a number of roach infested places that I did considerable work trying to rid them. I have torn off window and door facings to spray behind even and have rented the people who tent the house and gas it. The roaches moved back in a month later. One night late listening to a talk show on the radio in 1984, I heard and entomologist talking about a new substance that was coming out that would indeed rid you of roaches. Since this was in California and we were again living in a dwelling that could not be freed of this pest even though I faithfully sealed it up and bombed it once a month while we stayed in the motel, I listened avidly. He said it was going to be sold under the name of Combat and it was only good for six week so when the stores started stocking it to check the expiration date. He stated you would need to renew it every six weeks and go through three complete hatch cycles for it to work. We bought it as soon as it became available on the shelves and true to his statement it took a month for us to notice the roaches were diminishing. We promptly bought some new Combat and set it out. Three applications and we were roach free for the first time I had successfully beaten them. We put out a new batch every six months and after living there another ten years we never saw another roach. Now my youngest daughter who is a fanatic will set out new ones if she even thinks she has seen one. All of the other methods, boric acid, ultrasound, etc did not ever work for me and I do not have a financial interest in Combat, I just know it works when nothing else does. Harold Dean

  43. Good story and I live in South Florida where roaches and ants thrive. Boric acid really works. The tablets have to be fresh though because there is something in them (bait) that makes roaches want to eat it. One error in the story has to do with the toxicity of boric acid. It is poisonous to insects and very young children and pets, but for adults it is just as poisonous as aspirin which is acetylsalicylic acid and is also poisonous to very young children, etc. Boric acid has been used in eye drops for ages and is odorless and tasteless so it should not be used around toddlers.

    • Harold Dean says:

      I am glad that you found boric acid to be effective so your cost of same would not be outrageous. I just stated that for me, it did not work nor any of the other touted treatments. I finally figured out that I was killing one generation of roaches but not the entire cycle. When I got the cycle interrupted, after several months they returned from the neighbors places and reinfested my home. With Combat, regular changes for a year and you eventually wind up killing your neighbors roaches also which you must do if you want to remain roach free. I found the hard way it does no good to just get rid of mine but I also had to rid theirs but keeping fresh bait out all of the time. They eventually transported this to the other nests in neighboring homes thereby killing theirs also by interrupting their life cycles. I know it worked since I remained in that house another ten years and still to this day, do not have a roach problem and I still set out new Combat a couple of times a year. Now if I could just find some way to address the mosquito problem here in a similar effective way I would be very happy. Harold

  44. Nice article by an amateur, but roaches don’t have lungs, so they can’t “hold their breath”. Been in the pest control business for 15 years, so seen a lot of crazy “solutions”. The best thing the author did was use the borid dust. Like some of the responses I read, the key for control is to treat behind the walls, all cracks and crevices and under the frig…etc etc. One of the best tools to apply the borid acid is the hand duster. Baiting can work fairly well if you use a gel that has a strong enough residual(such as fipronil .05%) as it can be passed thru to the feces, being that roaches continually taste feces because they have many pheromones and also eat the stuff also, for the protein benefit.

  45. j m botts says:

    Help there are roaches in my computer,microwave ,refrig,stove ,power strips ,tv, everything,how do I get rid of them without ruining my electronics?????I have a dog and cat and don’t want to poison them since the Jackrat puppy I have is a hunter and chases them down,I can’t watch to see if she eats them…gross…

    • David Andrews says:

      There are tablets called Harris Famous Roach Tablets that work the best. Pets do not generally eat them and if your pet dog or cat eats a dying roach, the amount of boric acid in the roach will not be enough to affect them unless they eat a lot of them. Put the tablets (boric acid and bait) behind and under everything and inside walls and cabinets where possible. This will keep the tablets where the roaches go and keep them out of reach of your pets too. The roaches will go back inside out of the light to die so animal contact will be minimal. Other roaches eating the dead roaches will also get sick and die and this will go on for about 3 or 4 generations. In about a week you will have trouble finding roaches. You may, if the infestation is really bad, have to buy a second box in about a month though.

      • Hunker-Down says:

        I would like to add that roach eggs are not affected by boric acid. You need to keep the tablets in place (and dry) until the eggs hatch and the young eat the tablets. In 3 generations, you may be rid of them.

    • The roach tablets that David mentioned work great for around electronics. There also other brands you can buy, pretty much what ever you can find so long as the active ingredient is boric acid. As long as your pets are not eating the tablets or licking boric acid off their paws they should be fine. I would try to get the boric acid behind and under things as much as possible. Watch where your trouble spots are and use a good amount there. Just be sure to have it “poofed” or in very thin lines as the roaches will go around any kind of pile or thick lines.
      I would get some diatomaceous earth (make sure you get the food grade as the pool grade is very toxic) and put some in the animals food. It wont hurt them and it will keep the roaches out of their food.
      Like Hunker-Down mentions the boric acid doesnt affect the eggs, so it takes a while to get rid of them all. It is not a quick fix by any means. But, so long as you keep the boric acid dry it will continue to work.
      It is very, very hard to get them out of the electronics. I know you cant really unplug the stove or fridge, but try to keep the elctronics unplugged as much as possible. Put a good handful of the roach tablets under the fridge and stove and any other electronic that you cant keep unplugged, or spread a good amount of boric acid under them, and check that it is still fresh (loose powder and not clumped up), at first I would check every couple of days and as the roaches start dying down, maybe every week.
      If you have any other questions dont hesitate to ask.

  46. Harold Dean says:

    When all the other methods fail, just do like I did in my previous post and go buy some Combat, check the expiration date, rotate for the first three six week cycles and be roach free. Nothing else worked for me, not expensive pest control, sonic, boric acid, etc until I found Combat. It took the entire three cycles to rid my house and neighboring houses where they go when you spray, etc and I continued with fresh pots for a year. Lived there another ten years and never a roach again. Southern California too where it is virtually impossible to do this.

  47. Living in the boonies we used to have vermin problems. Once we started feeding the feral cats just enough to get them to hang around we don’t have roaches, mice , rats or even snakes around any more. None, zip, zilch, nada. The dog we adopted (that some lazy jerk dumped on the road) even keeps the moles under control, though following behind him to fill in the craters is a pain.

    Of course, securing the chickens we plan on getting from the cats will be a problem but then again all of life is a tradeoff. Lol..I’m thinking airsoft negative reinforcement there.