How Much Ammo Do You Need?

by M.D. Creekmore (a.k.a Mr. Prepper) on March 1, 2009

By: Yukon Mike

This is my ammo stock. Most of it was acquired 8-10 years ago when ammo compared to today’s prices was very cheap. I have stocked here; .177 pellets and BB’s, 22 rimfire, 38 special, 9mm, .223, .308 and 12 gauge.


A common question is; how much ammo should I store for SHTF?

First, several questions need to be asked.

1. Exactly what are you storing it for? For the Survivalist, it is food gathering (hunting) and home or self-defense.

2. How long will the situation causing the need last? Let’s assume TSHTF and commonsense says it will be 5 years. So for a baseline let’s use a five (5) year SHTF time frame.

3. Could buying and storing ammo be a legitimate investment like gold? Yes and very likely as a barter item for stuff you may need and can’t buy. In my case yes, it has because most was bought 8-10 years ago when .223’s were $125/1,000.

Let’s look at the food gathering ammo needed for five (5) years.

Hunting Large Game;
Using a centerfire rifle or a shotgun using slugs: (stock 180 rounds)

Your centerfire hunting rifle or the very capable shotgun really doesn’t need a large amount of cartridges if used for larger animal food gathering. If you live in a game rich area and depending on the size of your family or group, you may take 2-6 deer or similar sized game per year. Another point about large game harvesting. To make it last you must have refrigeration or be skilled at preserving it with other means like salting or canning.

Let’s assume you know how to hunt game and the worst case is 3 shots for the kill or three rounds per animal. At the kill/ammo rate mentioned that’s 18 cartridges a year for six animals. For five years of hunting that’s only 90 rounds!

Now let’s say Murphy’s Law is around so things aren’t going to be perfect and the kill shot attempts are many due to long distances and misses are likely. Or something you really didn’t plan on, relatives who didn’t prep move in and now you have to feed them also. So for a backup amount my preference would be to store 2x the perfect amount (90) or 180 rounds for the five years.

Hunting Small Game;
Using a shotgun with #6 shot: (stock 3,000 rounds of #6 shot)

Shotguns are the ultimate and most productive food gathering tool. From rabbits and squirrels to birds and deer you just can’t beat this gun. With a shotgun you may have to hunt 2-3 times per week or about 150 hunts per year. If you use 2 rounds per hunting day, that’s 300 rounds per year or for five years 1,500 rounds!

My preferred shot size is #6 for small game and birds because the bb’s are large enough to kill quickly and there are fewer of them so you tend not to destroy the meat with many smaller hits. I don’t try and stock specific shot sizes for specific game, it will add considerably to the cost of your stock and is basically a waste of your money.

Using my 2x rule that comes to 600 shot shells per year or for 5 years is 3,000 rounds to store. Kind of a surprising amount isn’t it!

Hunting Small Game;
Using a 22 rimfire: (stock 3,000 rounds)

The 22 is a great small game rifle. Accurate out to 75 yards they are the most inexpensive food gathering tools you can own and use.
Using the same hunting scenario as the shot gun, 150 hunts per year, you need to store 3,000 rounds for a five year period.

Personal Defense, Concealed Carry Hand Guns;
For your primary pistol caliber: (stock 1,000 rounds)

Hand guns are necessary during SHTF. They are for concealed carry for immediate protection or to get you safely back to your home or to suitable defense weapons. Calibers can be any of the most common like the 38 special, 9mm, 40 cal and 45 cal. Because these are so common they have good prices on this ammo so it’s easy and cheap to stock up on enough to meet your needs.

It is difficult to come up with an amount to stock because the hand gun is mainly for defense so it shouldn’t be used much if at all. So for some target practice I would think 200 rounds per year would be good or 1,000 rounds for five years.

Home Defense;
Centerfire Rifles, Carbines or Shotguns: (stock the amount that gives you comfort)

Let’s hope this need never materializes, but it can. Remember Watts, New Orleans after Katrina and other cities that the so called underprivileged or unprepared go nuts! If you are counting on the overpaid and incompetent police force to help you during this time forget it, they will be nowhere to be found and you’re on your own!

This is a situation that you must thoughtfully review multiple scenarios of attacks against your home and how you would counter them.

Here where I live, we average a murder every two days, some are drive-bys firing through the walls of a house and killing kids in their beds. My point here is the walls of your home don’t stop bullets so what would you do for cover? Think about it!

So how much ammo should you stock form home defense? Hard to say but the amount chosen for each weapon you have should give you comfort.

Related:
Survival Gun Selection

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{ 6 comments }

Anonymous December 20, 2009 at 12:00 AM

I am new to all this. I did not start to prepare until Obama was elected. What should i consentrate on most??

Grey1 August 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Water.
You should have enough water in storage to be able to wait out any fallout or plague – 2 months is a good amount, at 1-2 gallons per person per day depending on climate. AND the means to collect and purify more without resorting to the taps.
Food.
You should have as many days of food/person as you have rounds of ammo OR MORE and the means to get more food. Dried Rice Corn and Beans are the cheap staples that are hard to grow, but dont forget the spices and comfrot foods and canned goods that keep you eating.
Medicine.
You should have enough of your daily vitamins and medicines as you need for at least a year OR a known alternative. Plus enough bandages dressings, and general hygenie and first aid stuff to cover your family for a year of weekly significant injuries.
Defense.
Depends upon where you live if legal get a handgun per adult legally allowed to own one, sticking to the same calibre where possible. IF you cant own handguns or once you have them and the ammo you need to go for the shotgun. Dont forget to harden your home, keep watches/alarms, and hide your supplies- look like a hard target without much payoff and the hordes may skip you.

Thats the basics.
There is lots lots lots more.
Dont go into debt trying to get this stuff- it would be a shame to have your perfect bunker repossesed by the bank.

Anonymous January 30, 2010 at 8:51 PM

It's nice to see so many people are getting on board. Like Yukon Mike, I also live in an area where crime is a bit of a problem to say the least. If home defense is a scary reality for you, the think about your options for tactical ammo. I like mike's 2x theory, you can never have enough. One thing I would add to the shotgun ammo stockpile is about 100 rds of buckshot. This is a superior round for CQB home defense.

Also, If you don't already have one, get some form of assault rifle. Get something in .223 or 7.62. Both are reliable rounds and easy to find.

One more thing about the handgun. I feel that a .357 revolver is one of the better choices. For people who are only slightly familiar with handguns, it is much easier to maintain and operate than many of the automatics, just don't forget to buy some speedloaders. Also, this weapon is capable of firing .38 ammo as well as it's designed .357. If your in a situation where you are able scrounge ammo, you have just increased your odds of finding ammo you can actually use. I recommend the S&W 686 combat magnum with a 6' barrel.

Nobody wants to see this world go to hell, but unfortunately, this is something we Must accept as a possibility, and prepare accordingly. Especially if you have a wife and daughter to protect from the wolves.

Scott June 8, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Mike, I’m glad to see a common sense approach to suggesting the amount of to stock up on. But beint the pessimist I am I have a few suggestions. Being in my fifties I’ve learned a few things that might help. You are spot on with the shotgun ammo EXCEPT you forgot to suggest buck shot and slugs to double the capabilities of the shottie, I’d add an equal amount of these as the game rounds you suggest. The reason being that these rounds are better suited for defense and large game… You have a centerfire rifle for large game? Murphy’s Law… what if it breaks? the shottie can now fill in with the slugs and buck shot in addition to being a defensive piece… Next, small game hunting with a .22 doesnt always yield successful results as all too often hunters over estimate ability and underestimate range. The round may take the rabbit but where did the bunny get to? double up on the .22 ammo for this reason. Once you have been living off “the gun” habits will develop to ensure not wasting ammo but we must be prepared for the inital period of learning.
And a final point. Once this amount of anno is in place along with the other needed equipment and supplies follow the survivalists rule of thumb: When you are sure you have enough, it is time to double it! This rule goes for Supplies of all kinds, stored foods, water, gold and silver, ammunition and so on. In short it means NEVER stop preparing Just because you have enough supplies NOW doesnt mean it is sufficient, many of the things need to be rotated out and used before it goes bad and becomes unuseable, and Ammo does age and go bad, so it does need to be properly stored as well… I’ve lead a rough life and been to hell and back. Ive learned that there is never good enough, so please dont take this as a critical comment on your thoughts, rather just a suggestion to “never give up, never surrender”

Terry Morlan June 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM

IMO it would also be wise to learn how to reload. They make a hand loader that does not need to be mounted to a bench. I have been learning this art for a while now and have introduced a friend to this as well. Learn from a long time reloader that has reloaded a considerable amount of time. Lee is by far for the price a very reliable supplier of reloding gear as is are many more. It will be a useful trade when the shtf. As for the .357 it is a good handgun. I like the 4″ barrel. Oh yeah you can as Scott said never have enough ammo and rotation of food stuff is a must.

axelsteve August 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I love the little Lee loader.I used it to reload o6 for my o3a3 in my youth. it is small and slow but it made great ammo.I used to even load mil surp brass with it. In my erea 22 ammo can be used to kill the many wild turkeys in my erea.There is so many of those darned things beacus some braindead in our goverment reintroduced them and did not know that they did not have any predators to keep them in control.So there is flocks of them all over the place now. There was even on that lived in the local les schwab parkinglot.Steve

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