Interesting maps to consider when choosing a retreat location

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Social security and local economics map of the U.S.
Percentage of people receiving government assistance by county…

Gang activity by location…

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Population density map…

pic reactor map
Nuclear reactors in the U.S.

Pic nuke target map

Likely nuclear target map for U.S.

How does your state and county rank? Let us know in the comments below…

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  1. If there were ever a set of maps that said “go west, young man” these would be them.

  2. millenniumfly,
    Moving to the western U.S. does not guarantee your safety or survival and the west has its own set of problems depending on where you end up.

    I’ve lived in Tennessee for most of my adult life so I feel more qualified and better able to provide an accurate assessment of the state and the surviving in the east in general, than let’s say, some novelist living in Idaho who has completely discounted every state east of the Mississippi as unfit for survival.

    I’ve mentioned Joel Skousen’s book “Strategic Relocation” before and think it is a great place to start for anyone interested in relocating for survival purposes, because it details each state with specific locations in each based on his extensive research.

    In his book, Mr. Skousen gives Tennessee an overall rating of three and a half stars (the highest rank given to any state in the east) out of a possible five with my area in the Cumberland Plateau as his number one choice for a retreat area within the state of Tennessee.

    For comparison, he ranks Tennessee as the sixth best state in the nation for a retreat location, ranking the state higher than many western states such as Arizona, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Dakota, North Dakota, Texas, Oregon, New Mexico, California etc.

  3. Alaska is always a good place to be.

  4. Thanks for the maps. A great addition to my map library.

  5. SaratogaPrepper says:

    Saratoga County, NY some good some bad. There is a nuclear reactor, Naval submarine training site, that is not listed and not many in the area are even aware of. Population density isn’t bad, economic situatuion pretty good, no gangs to speak of, just need to blow the bridge over the Mohawk River to keep the zombies from coming up from Albany. Great hunting and fishing possibilities, farm land is plentiful though growing season is not as long as I would like. All in all we’ll be staying put if TSHTF.

  6. According to those maps, Idaho seems to be the only western state with nothing agianst it- until you see how much is being bought up by the ChiComs. How’d you like to have them as neighbors?
    Those maps make MN an interesting mix of where to be… maybe… um, possibly… dang, I dunno about this… In my area, the population density is low, no nuke reactors, but a reasonable chance of being a target within 90 miles (Great Lakes shipping) of my place and well within fallout areas. I’ve been trying to tell people that for 60 years. No one listens, of course: ‘why should we be concerned, our dotgov will protect us.’ Gangs aren’t much of a problem- yet. The extreme temps tend to keep a lot of riff-raff out of the place. They are growing, however.
    So I lean back in my easy chair and consider where would be a good place to be when the fur flies? In all honesty, I can’t think of any really good place to be on the planet.

  7. Wow ! I’m surprised about the maP showing people recieving government assistance. I live in Webster parish and according to what I see with my own eyes,nearly half of the the housing even in my little town is HUD housing comPlexes. But according to the map ,my parish (county) is nearly free of government owned families. Then the other map showing gang activity is equally as perplexing. Webster parish is exclusively small country towns. The biggest to my knowledge would be minden and even then you could walk from one end to the other in 15 minutes. I’ve never heard of or read about gang activity here. Kinda scary. I guess you really don’t know what goes on when normal people are settling down for the night the gang activity must start. Maybe they are including motorcycle gangs. There are several clubs in Webster one being the grey ghosts in minden. I’m ginna have to see if the library can get that book. I’d love to see where Louisiana and Webster parish stand as far as good places to relocate.

  8. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    Tertiary target in nuclear war, but we are nearly in ‘ground zero’ for Mexican drug cartel violence, border is just 10 miles away and the 1st 10 minutes of most news cast are of arrests, smuggling and violence, due to cartel. South Texas has gone hot – and not just the summer weather, its a mite dangerous down here. Gang map shows us condition orange.

  9. Are you back east or out west when you live north of the Mississippi?

    Besides the massive nuclear fallout (possibly the worst in the country) and the five month long deadly winters with a complete lack of trees to burn, I’m sitting pretty. Has anybody written a book on survival/homestead coal mining?

    • I read about 20+ years ago, in Mother Earth news IIRC. About a guy who created his own coal mine. On the back of his very large property he excavated a large hole, lined it with some kind of rubber sheeting, placed something like 50 or 100 tons of coal into it, another layer of sheeting, some dirt, and then replaced the topsoil. The coal would keep and he estimated that it could provide him with 20 or more years of fuel if he ever needed it. I suspect the cost and the EPA would both be prohibitive today, but I still think it’s an interesting idea.

      • Thanks for the heads up. I was mostly joking but with your and Hilary’s comments – I will actually look into it. I know we have a lot of coal in North Dakota but I’m going to figure out exactly where its at: how far away, and how deep down.

        In the house I grew up we had a coal room in the basement – it was mostly wood filling it in the early 90s but there was also a small pile of coal left. When dad sold the place he decided to burn through everything including the coal. Our suburban block with the nice older historic register homes smelled like 19th century London that week. My dad’s evaluation: the coal burns great in the fireplace, but it kinda smells (a real understatement), but the bowling pins are perfect – he burned a couple dozen bowling pins and 100 pounds or so of coal that winter.

        • Mike M,
          I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s in Western PA, and although my family heated with natural gas, the old house did have a coal bin, and, I had a friend whose family heated with coal. We also knew of folks out in the surrounding mountains who had coal seams close to the surface that while not large enough to be commercial provided them with all the coal they needed to heat their homes. Some folks cut wood, and beck there and then, some mined coal. If you have similar resources available it would probably be something worth investigating, along of course with any EPA restrictions.

  10. I don’t know anything about a book but I do know there are certain communities in New Zealand where coal seams are close to the surface, even exposed and people just go and harvest enough coal for their winters. There was one school which even would get the children to dig out enough coal to heat the school each day until the powers that be deemed it unacceptable child labor and required the school to use its budget to buy coal in and then convert to electricity for heating.

  11. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    The maps are interesting, but terribly misleading IMHO. Looking at NV, for example, you might think it is a good place to relocated. But it has a real shortage of water and most of the state is owned by the govt. You look at California and think it’s full of losers…..oh, nevermind.

    • breadmomma says:

      nah…Cali is my home state…lived there for 30 years…and hey, Lint lives there so it can’t be all bad!……BUT…moved north…cooler summers, lots o water, growing season nice…rain doesn’t bother us, and we seem to be out of most of the harms way…of course the Cascadia might give us a front seat for some beach front property some day…but in the mean time…I think I will stick it out on the South Oregon Coast..

    • LurkerBob says:

      I agree somewhat misleading. As to the population chart. I am about 25 miles due west of Portland and can wander around for weeks without seeing another soul. Chart list Portland at highest level. Obviously these are by county and averaged over area – misleading.

      As to the Nuke-Strike map, with prevailing westerly winds, its good to know you vaporized easterners will not be raining down on my BOV and ruining the finish.

      Firestorms might be a problem depending on the season. Here in the Pacific NW we have two seasons The rainy season and August. So the odds are with me. During the rainy season even a nuke blast aint gonna burn long.

      Also, on a positive note, most strikes will take out the majority of liberals and those stinking OWS vermin. Gonna be a bad day in eastern Montana / North Dakota though.

      Others dont apply to me but all in all very interesting.

  12. Well, I am not sure we can say anything meaningful about these maps. We would need to know how the figures are calculated. For instance, what counts as government assistance? We tend to think about HUD housing and food stamps. But do Pell grants count? How about Social Security? We need to know how “government assistance” is figured.

    Often times, with data such as this we are comparing apples and oranges.

    I also noticed that one of the primary targets on the East Coast is not even listed–Kings Bay Nuclear Submarine Base in St. Mary’s, Ga. After knocking out Washington D.C., Kings Bay will be a top target. (It’s the largest nuclear sub base on the East coast.)

    I would also be interested to see how they define a gang. Here in suburbia we have fairly affluent teens forming “gangs” so they can race cars and smoke pot on weekends.

    Perhaps a better indicator of a “bad area” would be the number of arrests for hard core drugs per 1,000 persons.

    • Frankly, I think Gayle had it right. If they are on Meth or Crack in a 2% growth economy killing themselves, I’d be wondering who they are willing to kill in a -20% economy when there is nobody giving them any handouts. Don’t think about just how bad an area is – think about how bad it will get.

      • Josh,

        Folks who are addicted to meth are doing harm to others. Meth labs are highly explosive. Meth addicts tend to be violent. We are not talking about a bunch of bums smoking pot and raiding mommy and daddy’s pantry for ho-hos because they’ve got the munchies.

        Drug addicts harm society simply in virtue of the fact that they fail to fulfill their assignable obligations. We are overrun by drug addicted parents–when they fail to raise their children properly, they harm society.

        I’ve read that 90 percent of criminals sitting in prison committed their crimes under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

        I would actually be interested to read a medical opinion on what’s going to happen to all these drug addicts once SHTF. Will they go into withdrawal and simply die? Will they become violent? How do meth addicts differ in behavior from crack addicts or heroin addicts?

  13. blindshooter says:

    The worst thing about my area is the growing population. Lots of folks from up north stop here on the way to Florida and get stuck. I think it’s the good BBQ but the ones I talk to tell me it’s the schools and job prospects in and around the triangle area of NC. I live a good ways east of that mess but I do have to work in that area at times. I have dim thoughts of trying to get home if I’m caught in that mess during any disaster, every day morning and evening traffic is a disaster every work day.

    All the above worries me more than the nuke plants or chance of nuclear weapon strikes. I think the chances of an illegal running me over with a concrete truck is greater than a nuclear bomb falling on me. The gang thing is worrisome as well. Maybe when I moved I should have kept going further west.

  14. I’m glad to see those maps. I’m still undecided if we want to stay in Alabama or not. Like any place it has negatives and positives. I grew up here so I know how to navigate the culture and I know the areas to avoid. I have friends who know this country is headed for some nasty times but they’re not doing much to get ready. We have family here but they consider us “the granola people” and only want to talk football and Jesus.

  15. These Maps are very interesting and informative. But no place is perfect. I think the best you can do is careful reasearch based on your particular requirements. For my wife and I access to a world class hospital and transplant team was essential. Being a survivor without her has not been an option and our selection for a “retreat” is based around it.

  16. Yeah, that gang one I saw the other day and figured that unless there was actually some kind of virus or epidemic I would be in a world of hurt.
    But let’s face it this world has always been dangerous, we just were not looking for it to become a force that we as individuals would have to worry about with such intensity.
    Thats why I say sit tight, keep your gun loaded, and practice OPSEC every minute of the day.

  17. Here’s another interesting map. It’s of geothermal activity across the lower 48 states. It can be looked at as places where tremendous energy resources are available or for the pessimistic, the size of the Yellowstone caldera which could destroy all life in North America – LOL.

    • Yikes! I got on here and read this and looked at your map right after I put my son on the bus to Yellowstone. That did not make me feel any better!

      • Tigerlily,
        I don’t know if this helps or not, bit of the Yellowstone super Volcano ever erupts then there won’t be any place safe west of the Mississippi, and even here farther east the effects will be devastating. Your son’s bus could also be struck by an asteroid, but I suspect the chances of that are about the same as a Yellowstone eruption. Astronomically high.
        Don’t swat the small stuff or the really big stuff, about which we can do nothing.

  18. Thank you M. D., excellent information. I know that in my neck of the woods it’s going to be tough come SHTF. How does that song go? Gangs to the North of me illegals to the South. Stuck in the middle with you. I will continue to pray and prep.

  19. Bill in Phoenix says:

    I bought 3 parcels ( 2.21-2.27 acres each) up in the high, Arizona Sonoran desert area. ( total of over 4.5 acres)
    (At only $3,500-$4,000 a parcel, of over 2 acres each, why not?)
    TRUE,…Some might think I’m crazy,… But, you’d have to KNOW the area, the sites I’ve chosen, and why I chose them.
    1) there is nothing up there of any value! Nothing to steal!
    2) very few live in the entire area, maybe 7-8 in 20 square miles!
    3) what trees are up there, are far too small for building much more than a birdhouse! Junipers and Cedars, only bushes really, they use them for landscaping, and not over 15-16 feet tall
    4) no viable roads and no signs, and,… there’s NO maps of that area!
    5) winds easily get up to 50+mph…!
    6) when it rains, it rains hard and long, and the place is a giant mud bog, even big 4wd’s get stuck! When the snow melts, it’s the same thing but colder!
    7) very little wildlife in the immediate area, no food for them= no wildlife!
    8) all water must be hauled in from the nearest town, 45 minutes ( 5 miles away) The traveling really is that bad!
    9) the nearest town, population under 400, has one convenience store, along a major highway!
    10) the closest towns that have food or any real population are 35+ miles to the south or the east. The largest towns nearby, are 60+miles one way. That includes any/all medical, sheriff, and fire assistance!
    11) There are ONLY 2 roads into the whole area, and there is only one dirt trail ( when its used), up to my places.
    12) I have mountains to the west, to the east and a wide and deep canyon directly to the south. 1 way in, 1 way out.
    13) my places are totally isolated.
    14) the last 2 bikers that drove into the area, 1 died of head injuries, the other was in a body cast for months! ( those were LOCALS BTW!)
    15) If you know where to locate it, water is there, and it’s evident from 2 artesian wells…The aquifer flows directly under my parcels, about 10-12 feet depth! (Shhhh…. that’s a violation of OPSEC!)
    16) you cannot have anything delivered out there, no one can find it!
    17) I had to assist 2 deputies by cell phone up there recently that got LOST, as they only had GPS units and there is NO GPS maps of the place!
    It took me a couple years of earnest research and putting my feet on the ground, to find the places I chose. No one I have talked to is of a like mind and said they would NOT go there, even if their lives depends on it! ( I have spoken to and met with over 240 people that wanted to join me!)
    1 man bought some land ( one parcel) about 1 mile north of mine…(sight unseen) and he only stayed 3 days! It had rained a week before, and his place was in the center of a flood plain! He thought he had got a great deal, as he only paid $1,625 for 2.7 acres!
    It’s NOT what you picture it to be, and it’s harsh and unforgiving at best. Just what I wanted! It’s my piece of Safe Haven!
    Am I worried about the cartels or any illegals,…. NO!
    If you were in a desperate need for anything but dirt, rocks, and a few scrub bushes,… you’d never venture up into that area….
    The soil is very acidic and there are large volcanic rocks all over the danged place! Great for growing hot chilies!

    • Sounds like BFE to me, I’m not coming either.

    • sounds like the Navajo reservation lol .

      • Bill in Phoenix says:

        No, actually I’m further west, even west of Williams.
        The “land of disenchantment”! It’s UGLY, it’s isolated, and it’s remote, but it’s easy to secure and stay out of harms way, if need be. That’s all that matters in the end. I can set up a 100 yd target range and not worry about hitting anyone or having anyone pay attention to the shooting. With some standard barbed wire around the place, it would resemble an old ranch or homestead. I bought some used ( rusty) fencing and barbed wire and will be using it to make the place look as if it were a hundred years old and no one will know the difference. Using hi-tech devices, I am able to see and hear anyone approaching, long before they ever get within 3 miles…..Coupled with the dense bushes, the only way to see in is via light aircraft, helicopter, or satellite. Add a few more interesting things on the mountain peaks, on the only entrance into the area, and it’s “covered”.
        A man witt a decent rifle could stop anyone from coming in from at least a mile away….As far as cover, the one mountain peak has a cave with a opening which cannot be seen from below….You can see 270 degrees, for 35+ miles!

        • Lived in Phoenix until just recently and am headed back …….cant stand Turdtown anymore ( Tucson )…..I think I know that area ………. your right , nobody would go there with a normal train of thought if they are looking for a place to bug out or supplies .

  20. breadmomma says:

    I have to say, looking at the Nuke map…I laughed my ars off..if you ever have been to that garden spot on the map between Colorado, WYnoming, and NEEbraska…it is the most God aweful spot…flat, high desert, nasty ass place on the planet to get stuck in ….near Sterling…got stuck there with a U Haul for three glorious rain soaked, tornado warning days…no offense to someone that might call that area home…but hey…I think the only thing out there is antelope and a nacient wine growing area near Scottsbluff…not enough water in the long run with the Oglalla aquafer running low on water..just a thought…suppose Uncle Sugar had nukes out there in a few silos at one time…

    • I think nukes are the least likely thing to worry about . If it does happen it probably be an isolated incident , with one of the warheads the Russians sold to the ragheads , before they regained control of their arsenal after the collapse .

  21. It would be nice to see a poulation density versus arrable land ratio map. That would make the east coast much more attractive in some locations.

    The target map misses some major military bases. Camp Lejeune would be fairly high on the list. Fayetteville with Fort Bragg looks like it is only being hit because of the size of the city.

    Your goverment assistance map is showing retired people. While Social Security is a transfer payment, it is not needs based. So what you are really showing is the depopulation of the rural areas as young people move to the cities to find jobs.

  22. Dean in Michigan says:

    Nice maps, however, I’m still a firm believer that there is no perfect retreat location. Some better than others for sure!! But a secluded location will not rescue you from problems, only delay them. All the seclusion in the world will only make your fire burn brighter at night. The stuff blowing through the fan will eventually land in your neck of the woods.

    Wow M.D., 6000 plus and counting. My how you’ve grown.

    • templar knight says:

      True, Dean, but time will significantly thin the ranks of the stuff going thru the fan, so getting as far away as possible will enhance the chance of survival. Or that’s the theory I’m operating under, anyway. I know I don’t want to be anywhere close to any major metro areas.

  23. Alex(Ontario) says:

    Are there maps like this for Canada?

  24. Diver Gal (South Fla) says:

    Hi all, Im pretty new here, have been lurking about and reading up lots. Im pretty much toast according to those maps both at my home in South Fl. and my properties in N.C.

    Maybe I should hope I’m at sea when TSHTF.


    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Welcome, Diver Gal. No place is truly safe. As one of our recent entries in the Writing Contest said, “bloom where you’re planted.”

    • Repair Mama says:

      Welcome to the Wolf Pack!
      Take off your shoes and pull up a chair.
      have a nice coffee, we’re all family here.

      I think that south florida is too scarey for me. Vacationed there once in the dark ages and it was pretty. Loved the beach, But I dont think that I could live there even in the best of times because there are too many people, too much crime, too many drugs, and not enough people that speak english!
      I guess I will stay in my mountians and hope for the best. If it all goes down, we will maybe be glowing in the dark here from TVA.

      • I have traveled quite a bit. Miami just feels like a foreign country. I would not want to live in South Florida. The gangs and the drugs are terrible.

        • Diver Gal (South Fla) says:

          Thanks for the warm welcome!!

          It has gotten quite difficult to live here sometimes. Unfortunately this is where my work is. Fortunately, it is seasonal which allows me to leave for a few months a year.

          I married a foreigner (French), and we have lived all over the world and this truly has become a pretty rotten place to be. The people are rude, their children are more rude, and everyone thinks they are entitled. My family moved here in 1977 when my dad retired from the military but it was a different place/different world back then. It’s truly sad what it has come to.


          • LOL , My girl is from Russia , learned to speak it which comes in handy when I get sent to Alaska for work . Your right , we have morphed into an entitled , rude , sloppy people . The stories my sweety tells me about growing up in the Soviet Union make me appreciate just how easy we have it , even when things are ” bad ” . They have no idea . Hispanics seem to be the worst for rudeness and general base , low class habits . Very dirty , vulgar people . Europeans seem to assimilate the best . Just an observation from somebody that lives in a border state .

  25. Looks like my are is in pretty good shape. No gang acticvity, almost all the nuclear plants are east of here and the one or two that are west are not in the prevailing wind pattern. The only nuclear stike sight close is 75 to the east and again any out west are not in the wind patterns for the most part. I really don’t think we have to worry about large scale nuclear strikes anymore, just small dirty bombs, limited strikes by the mideast lunatics if they can actually do it, more worry should be on large scale EMP stikes to take down the grid. The only big worry around here would be the welfare and food stampers but most of those are not heavily armed (pawned the stuff long ago) or if armed do not have substanitial amounts of ammo like me. I think if some lead flys their way they will run pretty fast. Way above sea level and not in a flood zone but get plenty of rain, and close to Nat. forest land. Somone posted in the what did you do this week post that they could not believe that the person in the rural ozarks apt got broken into, had to laugh that they thought that a town of 26,000 was rural , around here that is considered the Big city!!! To get to a town that size for me you have to drive 50 miles. So all in all looks like I am in good shape but still want to get 50-100 acres outside my metropolis of 7500..

  26. templar knight says:

    George, I live in the rural Ozarks, and I can’t think of a single city that has 26,000 people. The Northwest Arkansas corridor from Ft. Smith thru Fayetteville to Bentonville probably has 200,000 people, but that’s 125 miles west of me. It’s 108 miles to Jonesboro to the east, and Conway is 98 miles to the south. To the North I’d have to go all the way to Springfield, Mo. to find a city that big. The closet city to me(Calico Rock) has about 1,200 people, and Mountain Home is the biggest city in my area(pop. 12,000), and it’s 30+ miles away.

  27. Carry your ARSE to South Dakota and stay there

  28. All I have to say is Im glad I have My reservation’s for the Mothership Because Im a dead man if theese fool’s get crazy

  29. I noticed that there are no gangs in the upper part of lower Michigan to bother all the old folks living there.

    At 10 retired people per sq. mile, population is low in my county. The surrounding counties are 40 or less per sq. mi.

    There is a reactor north east (about 45 mi.) of me but, the 2 in WI are due east of my area of concern although, more then a 100 miles away. Luckily, they are all near the water – they are targets so, after the nukes, the water will rush right in and cover everything.

    The bad thing is if nukes do fall – Michigan could really be an island.

  30. GT urban prepper says:

    Well, at least gang violence is a lot lower than I thought it would be in Atlanta, Birmingham, and Dallas.. Other than that, looks like I have a lot of catching up to do as far as food and supplies is concerned. I have been watching the Walking Dead recently and while I don’t think the zombies are gonna come get me (I am prepared just in case :P) I did see a lot of stuff that we as survivors would have to do in the event of SHTF. Surviving the initial wave of chaos, scavenging for supplies, hunting, meeting up with other trustworthy people, living in tents for a while, losing loved ones, etc etc.

  31. I can’t say that I live in a real safe area with a nuclear power plant only 25 miles away. But then again that is really the only major threat in my area and I grew up here and my parents and grandparents and so on. One of my closest friend works at the plant and he keeps me informed if anything looks concerning. One of the advantages and at the same time disadvantage to living here is that it is a dying town keeping gangs away. However it keeps businesses away also.

  32. JO (Georgia) says:

    I feel the sudden need to build a bunker, its all gang violence and nuclear targets over here (not that I didn’t know that) maybe I should move south where its all avocados and alligators.

  33. NoMEPreppy says:

    The problem I see with the reactor map is that it is out dated. The one listed for Maine had been decommissioned for about a decade. I don’t even think that there is anything left on site, materials wise, that would cause any major concern.

    • Yep ……… backward , ………… thats the way they like it …….. and they wonder why everybody is poor , there are no jobs to speak of , and why their children are forced to move out of state to live . But hey , Augusta keeps trying to squeeze more blood out of each and every turnip every year with a new or higher tax . Gotta love the Maine countryside and some damn nice people but they have some serious issues up there .

  34. Alaska looks about the best

  35. Dean in Michigan says:

    I guess what really matters is that you already live in your retreat location. Having a cabin in the woods will do you little good if you still live in the city, unless you get a jump on the rest of the exodus, you probably won’t get there.

    “bloom where you’re planted”……..I must have missed that one, but I like it. Since I can’t sell my house for what I owe on it, unfortunately, that puts me on the front line in a Detroit suburb. During a serious event, I expect that it could take at least 6 months to (more safely) move away.

    Although they do pose a threat, I don’t worry about gangs to much. They are not smart enough to become a truly organized unit. The drugs, guns, and desire for power, will have these people all killing each other. The victor will be the biggest threat, however, when it’s over, they will be low on ammo, hungry, and pretty dinged up.

    So I will bloom here, and for those who live away from the smell Detroit, I’ll keep em’ off ya for as long as I can.

  36. Chilly Beaver says:

    Interesting pictureI found today, double click on it and it opens in Adobe, all you ever needed to know about when the “bomb drops”

  37. I’m definitely toast, but I already knew that. I live 25 miles south of Boston and 26 miles north of the Pilgrim nuclear power plant. I keep telling my husband I want a cabin in the woods because I’m tired of people and noise. Little does he realize there is a much more urgent need for relocation.

  38. JO (Georgia) says:

    has anyone seen one of these maps with fallout radius on them?

  39. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    After looking over these maps for a second time, I did learn something from them that then led me to look at the 2010 US Census stats for my state. And that led to finding a county that could be just what I’m looking for. I don’t want to leave California, but I would like to find a county that is more in synch with my thinking. Perhaps I found it!

    These maps provided the inspiration. Thanks MD. Too bad I can’t sell my house. The market is so depressed in this area, people can’t give their homes away.

    • Well Lint , perhaps the ” big one ” will hit soon . Computer simulation shows that NorCal will be an island . Your property value will skyrocket and islands are easy to defend in a collapse . The thing that will be a problem at first , is what to do with all the thousands of ” floaters ” washing up on the beach .

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Floaters make good bait. 😉

        • Yep , and some of the biggest trees are in cemeteries , compost for the victory garden 😉 I would also melt down any gold teeth ……….. waste not , want not .

  40. I wonder if a map exists that shows areas of frequent and predicted natural disasters . That would be useful , as your going to have to deal with so many man made difficulties as it is , just to have mother nature take you out once your settled .

  41. East Oregon is good, and so are parts of the west, keep in mind I am a full time squatter on the backwoods that the sheeple herds call a bum (i.e. terrorist).

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