Lists And Instructions For New Preppers

Today we present another article in our non-fiction writing contest – By Victoria S

Like many of us, I’m sure you have relatives and friends who are not into the whole preparing for disaster thing. There has always been a debate in the prepping community about what to do about those non-prepping friends and family if they show up at your place after a large-scale SHTF situation. Some schools of thought are to turn them away, perhaps with a bit of food or equipment. Other schools of thought are for bringing them in, even if they scorned your preparing before the SHTF.

The point of this article isn’t to debate the rights and/or wrongs of deciding either way. In the end, that’s a decision everyone has to make for themselves. For ourselves, we have decided to take in our friends and family, if we can at all manage it, even if it means eating meagerly for a while. However, we have also put some thought into what to tell our family and friends if we have a chance to give them warning (and directions). It’d be nice if they didn’t show up with absolutely nothing, after all!

With that in mind, I’ve drawn up some instructions and some lists for our family and friends, setting out some thoughts on both what to bring with them as well as how to pack it up for travel. Included with this information is a short cover letter and the various lists.

Letter:

The letter reads:

Dear family and friends:

As I’m sure you’ve noticed, things are going to hell in a handbasket. As some of you know, we’ve been increasingly concerned about things for a while now, and have spent some effort preparing for various disasters and situations that could cause severe disruption and chaos. This basically means that we hope we’re in a better position than most folks are in. We don’t want to even think about our friends and family being refugees or worse, so understand that you have an open invitation to come join us on our property. This means without any strings but with an understanding that with the direction things are going, we’ll need to band together and agree to live under some general rules. Nothing onerous, just the general undertaking to follow common sense rules (avoid fighting, agree to follow community-made decisions, understand that sometimes its not possible to explain everything in a crisis, etc) as well as understand that we cannot possibly accept everyone in the country into our property. Feel free to bring members of your family, and that includes serious boyfriends/girlfriends/best friends IF you are prepared to make sure that they obey the community ground rules also.

We have some supplies stored, but mostly we’ve worked to become more self-sufficient. This means that anyone joining us will need to be prepared to work to grown and raise their own food as well as any other tasks necessary for the defense and growth of the community.

Understand that we welcome ALL our friends and family, regardless of race, creed, gender, political affiliation, etc. This will mean that sometimes you’re going to have to interact with people who have different religious beliefs or political beliefs. Toleration is the word of the day (and week and month and year!). Nor are we pacifists – we do own weapons and will be prepared to defend what we have. This does not mean we’ll tolerate random violence or theft – just that if people try to take what is ours (and ours includes what is yours if you join us) we will fight to keep it.

Obviously, it would have been better everyone in the country had prepared also for situations like this. But, most people didn’t. We’re not going to watch our friends and family suffer because you chose differently than we did – thus our invitation now to you to come join us. On the other hand, if at all possible, it’d be great if you didn’t show up with nothing to your name either. So, we’ve included, along with directions to our place, some suggestions for what you possibly have around your house/apartment/etc that would be useful to bring. Also some suggestions on how to pack yourself and your stuff for traveling to us. Hopefully you find these lists and suggestions as an aid to further thoughts on how best to get to safety – because we very much want you to be safe and here with us in this time of danger.

(end of letter)

Directions of several approaches to our place are also included.

We have the letter and lists available in plain text files on our computers in case we are able to email them. I also plan to print everything out and leave packages of these printouts with family and close friends in case there isn’t an opportunity to email. I’m mulling including CDs and thumb drives of the files (and some other emergency files, including maps) being included with the printouts, but haven’t decided either way yet. I suspect that the decision will be that it depends on the computer literacy of the recipients – some of my older relatives are not exactly safe to be around computers.

The following are the various sheets included with the packet. I also have the EPA’s sheet on emergency water purification saved and printed to go with the information. (file from the EPA is at https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-11/documents/epa816f15003.pdf)

Suggestions on packing: (file/sheet 1)

These lists are arranged in four sets, and then by priority within each set. You can roughly consider the priority of the four lists as: carry on your person, emergency bag, car, trailer. Obviously, most people won’t have a trailer, but if you can beg/borrow/steal/etc one and have the car to pull it, do it.

The absolute essentials should be on your person at all times. That should cover emergency items to make a fire, defensive items, sturdy clothes, and well broken in and sturdy footwear. If you have a way to secure money/valuables to your person and have them NOT visible, that’s a good thing. If the weather is bad, include outerwear as person-essential.

Then you should select the sturdiest/strongest backpack or similar pack for EACH person and pack it with more essentials. Do NOT overpack this bag! This is the bag you grab if the car breaks down/runs out of fuel/is carjacked/etc. Every person should have one, even children, although what is inside them will obviously be different for children.

Then the car or cars. If you have bicycles, first secure them to the vehicles and if you can, add any spare bike parts. Ideally you would have these in a bike rack, but chances are good you don’t have one. Use rope/bungies and secure to the roof of your vehicle, running the rope/bungies through the doors to the inside. Bonus is that you can then stuff lightweight items into the space between the ropes and the roof of your car! Blankets/etc are a good way to pad between the bike and the roof. If you have tarps, secure them over the bikes – or in a pinch plastic sheeting will work – the heavier the better. Be sure to tuck as much as possible under so that it doesn’t flap in the wind – not only will it be annoying as all hell, it will also fray the tarp/plastic/blanket/etc to shreds.

If you have more than one person who can drive and you have more than one vehicle, bring both – even if you’re not sure how to get fuel. If you’re worried about fuel and are more than a tank-distance away from us, pack one vehicle with the more important stuff and the second/third/etc vehicle with less essentials, so that you can abandon the other vehicles if you can’t get all of them fueled up. The bikes are in case you cannot get ANY vehicles to our place … biking is better than walking. If you have any sort of fold-up cart/bike cart/etc … bring it if at all possible. Walking with a cart is better than walking with a backpack and allows you to walk with lighter backpack AND the stuff in the cart/etc.

If you have access to a motorcycle and can spare a driver for it (after drivers for all the vehicles you can get), bring it. Pack it lightly but with stuff similar to that carried in the emergency packs. Bring helmets if you have them.

Important note! If you have a camper of any kind – make it a priority to bring with you to our place. We will NOT necessarily have space at the start for everyone to have their own house/cabin/etc…. if you can bring something to live in, so much the better.

The one exception to bring every vehicle you can is true sports cars. Miatas are not exactly noted for their packing space, so unless that’s the only vehicle available, it’s probably not worth the hassle to bring a two-seater sports car.

Diesel vehicles are slightly preferred over gasoline cars, because diesel can be made from biological stuff and it stores much longer than gas.

If you can, make sure your spare tires are in good shape and filled up. Same with all fluids and oils. Take ANY gasoline/diesel cans you have (or can find along the way)!

Actual packing:

Try to make sure any food and/or valuables (including farm animals/etc) are NOT in sight from outside the vehicle. Covering those things with clothes, etc, is a good idea. Make sure you still have good vision of all sides of your vehicle so you can keep track of what’s going on around you.

When packing, try to avoid letting everyone watch you pack up. Less chance of confrontations/trouble if your neighbors aren’t aware that you’ve got valuables and/or food.

But if you make the car look like its full of useless items, it might prevent incidents where folks try to steal your car or your items. The less likely it is that you have anything that is food/firearms/valuable, the less likely people are going to try to steal what you have (and, more importantly, hurt YOU in the process. If ya’ll turn up totally empty-handed but alive, we’re ahead and happy. Lives first, then stuff, people). The same goes for trailers – if you can make it look like there is nothing valuable in the first foot or so of all openings, you can make things easier.

Stuff valuables in out of the way places – inside the spare tire space, under the mats (if things are flat – but put them in ziplock bags before putting them under floor mats. If you can take off the panels of your doors (AND get them back on and looking like they were never removed!), you can secure valuables in there. This would include prescription drugs and spare firearms and ammo!

If you have things tied on top of your vehicles (like bikes, etc), and have run the rope securing them through your car – you can use the ropes to also secure light things (clothes, coats, etc) to the ceiling inside also.

Anything you put on the outside of the vehicle (on top, on the trunk hood, etc) needs to be protected from weather (tarps are best, then heavy landscape plastic – only use trash bags if you have nothing else that will work and double/triple/quadruple bag things in trashbags.) You don’t want to let others see what you have if you can avoid it.

Stick things like plates/silverware/pencils/small tools, etc in any door bins. Things like that also work well under seats.

If you have an SUV/Minivan – consider taking out the back row of seats unless you need them for seating. Leave them behind if you take them out. If you are bringing more than one car though, consider keeping the back row seats in even if you don’t need the seating right then. You might need it later if you have to abandon other cars. The ideal situation would be to have one vehicle with enough seating for your entire group if possible – that would let you get here safely if you were forced to abandon other vehicles.

Stuff stuff everywhere you can find a spot. Pack around the seats – just allow enough space for your passengers, and crowd them a bit.

Fill a (one, not many) cooler with any perishable foods that you can eat in the first day or two. Unless it’s winter and you have a sure way to get more ice (or have a plug in electric cooler) don’t bring more than a few days worth of perishables as without ice/cooling they will go bad. Obviously, eat these items first (and then put stuff in the cooler to free up space).

Figure out how long you think you’ll be on the road to here, double that estimate, and only bring bulky foods (breads/cereals/fresh fruit/fresh veggies) for that amount of time. Avoid bringing too many bulky canned goods (except canned meats) in the cars … canned goods do keep well, but they also take up a lot of space. Obviously, if you have space for more bring them, but canned veggies especially are low priority.

Pets:

One last word – pets. Bring them if you can, but make sure you bring leashes/cages/etc for them too. Bring feeding bowls and food – as much as you can. But, unless you can figure out a way to safely transport them, fish are probably not a great idea, nor are more outlandish pets such as spiders or snakes. In fact, we’re going to have to insist on no spiders at all – since at least one of the residents on our property is deathly afraid of spiders. Small rodents are also probably not that good an idea – except for ferrets (as they can help keep down pests). Cats and dogs are welcome – especially larger dogs that can help guard. In fact, if on your travels you can acquire a suitable guard dog safely, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to bring with if you can. The same goes for any chickens/goats/rabbits/other farm animals. The important caveat there is “safely”.

Maps:

Hopefully you have good quality maps. Do not rely on GPS or similar – if things get really bad they may not work. (Or worse, they may not work before you leave to travel if the grid has gone down). If you can, print out maps of the route – a set of maps for every single person. Get alternate routes if possible.

Driving here:

There is no good way of knowing what road conditions will be like. It could be simple and easy or it could be Mad-Max like. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

Some advice – avoid big cities. Avoid choke points like bridges/tunnels/etc unless you absolutely MUST go across them (The Mississippi is a major pain in this instance). If you must cross a river, choose a small town or barren stretch if you can. Be careful approaching overpasses, underpasses, crossroads, and hills. If you are traveling with two vehicles – one can scout (ideally the one with less important items) and the other can follow. Set up some sort of signals between the vehicles for common outcomes – such as “all safe”, “avoid”, “Danger”, “run away”, etc. You may have to run without lights if things are very dangerous at night – so bear that in mind when setting up signals and have some that do not use the lights or the horn. (Colored cloths waved out the window might work). Before leaving, plot out at least two likely routes to your destination and make sure all adults and teenagers know the routes. If you can, set up meetup points in small towns or crossroads where you can meet back up if separated AND leave notes if need be.

If you stop along the way – try to get off the road out of sight – ideally in a deserted area. Avoid lighting a fire unless you absolutely must – light travels a very far distance at night, and smoke is very visible. Be careful what you burn – some wood lets loose nasty fumes and furniture/building materials often have been chemically treated. If you make tracks while getting off the road to camp, try to cover them up or sweep them away … best would be to scatter leaves/etc over the tracks. Remember that the smell of cooking and/or fires carries a LONG way.

If you get a chance to fill up your water supplies – do it whenever you can. You can live a good bit of time without much food, but going without water is difficult past a day or two. Be careful to purify/filter/boil any water from streams/etc as you have no idea what’s actually in the water. Most streams in the US are not free of harmful bacteria – boiling will often rid water of them, but best is a combination approach. Diarrhea is NOT a joke.

Treat ANY wounds as soon as possible. This includes blisters, cuts, scrapes, bites, etc. This goes doubly if you’re hiking/biking … it’s very easy to get a wound infected when traveling, especially in less than optimal conditions. Try to wash your hands often also.

If you end up walking or biking – railroad tracks are a good way to avoid crowds while still having relatively level travel routes. Also useful are utility right of ways or pipeline right of ways, as these are kept clear of brush but yet aren’t on most people’s radar. The main problem with these will be that they are often not marked on maps.

There is a chance that if disease is rampant, we may have to insist on a quarantine when you arrive. This is not only for our safety, but yours also. This would apply, not just if there is a pandemic raging, but also if the disorders are widespread enough that diseases are spreading in their wake. This is one reason for bringing tents/etc if you have them. We’ll try to avoid the necessity for a quarantine, but we wanted to let you know its a possibility. This is yet another reason to avoid cities – in any widespread disaster, disease is more likely to occur in cities where people are crowded together.

This also brings up the problem/issue of operational security. Please please please remember that “loose lips sink ships”. Do NOT tell people you are traveling to a safe place or that you are going to where you have friends and family that are preppers. Feel free to lie about where you are going. In fact, ALWAYS lie. Decide on a story of where you are going and make sure everyone knows it AND that they are to use THAT as the location/place/people that you are driving too. Pick a place 40 or 50 miles away from our location (at least). Make sure you never let on that you’re going somewhere where there might be supplies. Do not leave directions/maps/etc out in plain sight in your vehicles or flash them around outsiders.

Remember that anyone you bring with you will be vouched for by yourself. Chances are good you’re going to be spending long periods of time living cheek-and-jowl with whoever comes with you. Don’t bring people who you can’t handle being with that much. This also goes for people you meet along the way. We’re not opposed to helping others, but we must make sure that our friends and family are safe first. And disaster situations bring out the worst in people who are just trying to survive. Be charitable and helpful, but keep yourself and your group safe first and foremost.

Carry on your person at all times: (file/sheet 2)

Note that it is extremely unlikely you’ll have ALL of these items, so don’t be discouraged if you don’t.

Waterproof bag with maps and directions to us, some strike anywhere matches (or a matchbook or regular matches with box), a couple of coffee filters, some bandaids, some cotton balls, and some spare socks.
Cigarette lighter
Long sturdy pants
T-shirt
Long-sleeved shirt
Water canteen or small non-breakable bottle for water
Some money (include silver/gold coins if you have them)
Compass
Can opener (smaller the better)
Firestarter (flint and steel or the more modern magnesium and steel)
Watch
Any REALLY valuable jewelry (wrap up and stick into coat or somewhere else it will NOT get lost)
Any identification (passport, drivers license, etc)
Vital papers (or copies)
Fishing line and hooks (wrap hooks carefully)
Bandana/handkerchief
Flashlight with batteries (or the headlamps on heabands if you have them)
Small windup radio (if you have one – key is SMALL)
Cell phone and charger
Any absolutely required prescription medicines
Small bottle of aspirin/advil/benadryl/any anti-diarrheals/antacids/multivitamins
A couple of family photos
Outerwear to match weather – sunhat in summer with rainjacket that is waterproof, sweater with winter coat and gloves/hat/scarves in winter.
Sturdy well-broken in shoes suitable to hiking/walking long distances. Waterproof is a bonus.
Thick socks
Pocket knife
Multi tool
Any dried food with high caloric content – jerky, nut packages, etc
Hard candies
Small bottle hand sanitizer
Small tubes of antibiotic ointment (if you have any)
ANY body armor or other protective items (even stuff like lightweight baseball helmets or catchers’ chest protector and masks)
Sunglasses
Any prescription glasses

If you don’t have these items, you can improvise – this is a good starting point. The idea is that you have at least something on your person that will help you survive a bit longer if you have nothing else but what you are carrying.

Also – defensive items. Ideally this would be a handgun and a shotgun/rifle. However, most folks aren’t going to have enough of those to give every adult capable (and trustworthy with firearms) a handgun AND a long gun. If you have handguns and carry them, make sure they are safely carried and carry some ammo on yourself. If you don’t have firearms (or aren’t comfortable with carrying them) … mace/pepper spray/bear spray is a good substitute. A baseball bat or something similar will also be useful, if you can’t find something else. If you have a hunting bow or target bow – carry that any time you’re away from the vehicle. Slingshots also work. BB guns or air rifles also work. Worst case, a long kitchen knife in a makeshift scabbard is still better than nothing.

Ideally much of this would go in a small bag – fanny packs are ideal. Some of it should be in your pockets. Wear long pants, and if its at all chilly, layer your shirts – wear a t-shirt with a long sleeved shirt over it and a sweatshirt/sweater over that. This list is not the ideal “can live off the land” list – but it at least is better than having nothing. The key is to dress well and be ready for anything.

Quick explanation of items:

Coffee filters are to filter water. The can opener is in case you find cans – it would really suck to not have a good way to open them. Cigarette lighters are handy ways to start fires. Having multiple ways to start fires is a good thing! Extra ziploc bags would be great – they are wonderful for protecting paper and other things you don’t want wet – like spare socks and electronics.

Hard candies are a good source of calories in a small package that keeps well. If you can, put any food in a waterproof container/bag – to help hide odors.

Obviously if you have small/light camping/backpacking tools (cable saws, etc) carry them either on your person or in the emergency bag.

IF you have time – you can make handy fire starting tinder by taking cotton balls and soaking/dipping them in petroleum jelly (until they are well coated) and then putting the balls into a small pill jar. This makes a handy and light way to carry something to light fires in damp conditions.

Feel free to add to this list but remember, worst case you would be carrying whatever you have on you, so carrying too much is as bad as carrying too little.

Emergency bag: (sheet 3)

Matches (ideally strike anywhere but strike on box will do)
Cigarette lighters
Coffee filters
ANY backpacking equipment – backpacking stoves, backpacking cookware, backpacking silverware/plates/bowls, backpacking water containers. Make sure you bring fuel for stoves. I know most of you won’t have these but if you do – they are high priority for your emergency bags
Water purification tablets, if you have any
Sturdy lightweight plate/bowl/cup and one set of silverware. Plastic or aluminum is best. If you bring aluminum (which actually lasts better than cheap plastic), wrap it in some cloth to prevent rattles
Important papers (wills, insurance policies, titles, deeds, vital records, bank records, etc) – in at least one ziploc bag, better if you double bag them.
Boy scout manuals/how to live off the land/etc books. Include anything on traps/etc. Don’t overload yourself with books, but if you have these type of books, bring them in the emergency bag
First aid books – same as above
Any books on foraging for wild plants or on medicinal wild plants
Spare pocket knives.
Any hunting/fishing knives, especially with sheaths. Failing that, make a sheath for a couple of kitchen knives by cutting out heavy cardboard and duct taping the heck out of it. Make sure your makeshift sheath doesn’t stick to the knife blade though!
Any sharpening items for knives – you may have one for your kitchen knives. Better are true sharpening stones.
Can openers
Flashlight and batteries
Radio – small. Windup is better but battery powered works too
Any walkie talkies – spread them out between the adults and teenagers. Batteries for same
ANY backpacking foods – if you have them
Peanut butter – very nutrious, and keeps pretty well
Dried soup mixes
Dried milk
Other dried foods – jerky, etc.
Prescription medications (all of your supply except what is on your person, especially for anything you must take)
Any left over antibiotics you have lurking around your medicine cabinet
Small amount of first aid supplies – band aids, ointments, etc. If you have some first aid kits around the house, those are perfect.
Over the counter pain killers
Antacids, anti-diarrheals, anti-nausea drugs
Muscle rub ointments
If you have a good quality sleeping bag, tie it up tightly, wrap it in something waterproof, and hang it from your bag. If you don’t have a good quality sleeping bag, get the best quality blankets you can and do the same. Wool is better than cotton, if possible.
Sheet plastic and/or trash bags
Sunscreen (not tons, but some)
Insect repellant (if the season)
Lightweight rope – paracord if you have it is ideal
Fishing line and hooks (make sure to wrap the hooks well or have them in something that will keep them from hooking you)
Extra socks (at least three pair – five or six is better) Sturdy well made and thick.
Extra t-shirt (at least one, two is better)
Extra long-sleeved shirt
Extra sweatshirt
Duct tape
Super glue or gorilla glue (put in baggie if possible) Small tubes
Extra underwear
Any gold/silver coins
More cash if you have it
Some small jewelry pieces
Pool shock (see EPA directions for using it to purify water – need specific type)
Bible or other religious items
One favorite book you won’t mind re-reading
One favorite toy for children
Family photos (in ziploc bags) – ideally you’d have photos of everyone coming with you, as well as any real special memories.
Any solar charging items for your electronics – such as cell phones and tablets
Tablet (such as iPad/etc)
A couple of pens – sharpies or other waterproof best
A couple of pencils
A small notebook for recording things
A small pad of paper for leaving notes
Spare pair of sturdy shoes
Spare sunhat
Spare winter outerwear if the season
Rain ponchos if you have them
Small set of basic tools – phillips head and regular screwdriver, small hammer, a small hacksaw if you have it, etc.
Something to use as a water bottle – at worst case use a cleaned out soda bottle
Something to cook in – a small pot is perfect.
Granola bars/etc – high caloric small weight food items. Wrap in plastic to disguise odors.
Small packages of kleenex or a ziploc bag with a stack of them
Spare bandanas and handkerchiefs
Work or garden gloves
Tweezers and/or fingernail clippers
Small pair of scissors
Small mirror for signaling – ideally non-breakable but a small makeup compact will work in a pinch.
Small sewing kit (even those cheap cheap ones you get from hotels sometimes)
Bar of soap and a case/bag for soap
Chapstick
Toothbrush and toothpaste
Space blankets (those silvery emergency blankets that help reflect heat back to yourself)
Eyeglass repair kits, if you wear glasses

And … firearms. And ammo for them. Even if you’re not comfortable carrying it, it’s better to take it with you and have it close. The defensive items mentioned in the list to carry on your person also work well here – and add any hunting bows you might have.

You may not have all of these items. Don’t despair. It’s meant to be a helpful guide to things you might have that would help you if you lost everything but what you’re carrying on your own person. The guiding principle is to keep it light but focused on items that will help you reach us. The bible and fiction books (and toy for children) is for comfort.

Things to pack in the car: (file/sheet 4)

First a few words on priority. You may not have all of these things but the priority on categories of what you bring should be:

1. Items to purify water and fuel to get you to us
2. Medical items
3. Food items and things to make food, preferably light weight
4. Firearms and ammo and other defensive items
5. Clothing for all weather
6. Footwear
7. Bedding
8. Shelter and power
9. Personal care items
10. Instructional books
11. Family momentos
12. Tools
13. Valuables (all important papers should be in the emergency bags)
14. Household supplies
15. Entertainment items
16. Bulky foods

Some things will be higher priority than they would be just based on their category – pressure canners are much higher on the list to bring than most anything but seeds and firearms, but there are no real hard and fast rules.

1. So – first, water purification items.

Pool shock – IF it’s granular calcium hypochlorite (ideally 100%, but 80% or even 50% works). Other types of pool shock are NOT suitable.
Bleach
Water purification tablets (typically used for backpacking)
Water filters that filter out bacteria and chemicals
Coffee filters (every single one you have – they are used to pre-filter water for dirt/etc)
Tincture of iodine or household iodine
A pot to boil water in
Water bottles, especially sturdy ones

On how to purify water, see the EPA sheet attached.

2. Medical items:

This one’s simple – anything first aid related (bandaids, gauze, cotton balls, alcohol, etc) and any medications in your medicine cabinets should be packed. Any ace bandages. Any medical equipment – thermometers, blood pressure devices, canes, etc should also come if at all possible. Any old prescriptions in your medicine cabinets. Any pet medications – INCLUDING fish meds (fish antibiotics are usable by people!). If it can treat something whether it’s over the counter or through a prescription, bring it.

Or, in a nutshell, take everything in your medicine cabinets and any other medical drawers and dump them (okay, not dump, but pack carefully) into something sturdy and bring it. If it LOOKS medical, bring it.

Also include:

Medical gloves
Face/dust masks
Sunscreen
Insect repellant

3. Food items:

These are HIGH priority:

Seeds for EDIBLE items – herbs, veggies, etc.
Hand gardening tools.
Any lightweight foods that are NOT in your emergency bags
Empty out your spice racks and cabinets – bring them all.
Any powdered drinks – milk, koolaid, etc.
Teas
Coffee – beans and instant
Any condiment packages from restaurants
Crisco
Nuts
Cooking oils (pack carefully)
Dried pastas
Dried beans
Canned or dried meats
Hot cereals
Pudding and jello mixes
Extracts – vanilla, lemon, etc. Pure ones are better, but any are good
Dried yeast
Dried grains
Cocoa mix
Honey
Potatoes

Farm animals:

IF you have things like rabbits or chickens or goats – BRING THEM

Animal care supplies – leads, halters, etc even if you don’t have the animals any more

If you have space later (but AFTER items under numbers 4 through 11):

Sugar
Salt
Gravy mixes
Vinegars
Flavoring sauces – sirracha, ketchup, etc
Hard liquors

Equipment for food (pack any of these as same priority as food and firearms):

Pressure canners – and any supplies for same
Canning lids (don’t bring the glass jars unless you have a LOT of space)
All your kitchen knives – bring them all.
Any sturdy non-breakable plates, bowls, cups, glasses
Silverware – bring at least a set for every person – more if you can find ways to stuff it in
Can openers, manual
Aluminum foil

Cooking equipment (pack AFTER items numbered 4 through 13)

Frying pan
Couple of pots
Cast iron cooking gear

After all the rest of the items here, you should consider manual cooking equipment (bring these after everything but items under number 16):

Manual egg beaters
Manual pasta makers
Whisks
Metal cooking utensils – spoons, ladles, etc.
Thermos bottles
Coolers (pack items inside them)
French press coffee makers
Teapots
Apple corers
Biscuit cutters
Bottle openers
Manual juicers
Vegetable peelers, manual

4. Firearms and defensive items:

ANY firearms.
Any air rifles/bb guns/etc
Ammo for the above
Gunpowder and/or other reloading supplies
Hunting bows
Arrows
Slingshots
Blowguns and darts
Any edged or similar weapons that can stand up (not that cheap tin sword you bought but replica weapons, etc)
Anything that can be used as a weapon – metal or wood baseball bats, a heavy golf club, etc.

Binoculars – any you have

Make sure your defensive items are in easy reach.

5. Clothing

Sturdy clothing – and not just for the current weather. Bring winter clothes as well as summer. Thick socks. Underwear. Especially warm clothing – bring plenty. Include outerwear. If its summer – bring a winter coat for everyone. Bring mittens, gloves, winter hats, scarves and earmuffs. Bring wet weather gear – good waterproof jackets and boots. If you have wool sturdy sweaters – bring them. You can always pack clothing around items that would rattle or that are fragile. At least two full sets of winter and summer clothing are best. If you have more and can bring it, so much the better (but only bring sixth or more sets after bringing other items). Bring as much underwear as you can… the chances of us having any extra are slim!

If you have the space, bring baby/infant/toddler supplies and clothes, especially blankets and bottles

Handkerchiefs and bandanas are also useful
ALL spare shoelaces – strip them out of worn out shoes, etc.
ALL belts that are practical
ALL sports bras, whether they fit or not
ALL thermal underwear
Pajamas and a robe
Diaper pins

6. Footwear

Bring every single sturdy shoe or boot you have. No high heels, and only one pair of sandals or flip flops, but slippers are more useful. Again, not likely we’ll have spare shoes in your size.

7. Bedding

Any sheets in good shape
Pillowcases – all that are in good shape
Blankets and quilts – as many that are in good shape as you can manage
Air mattresses (and pumps for them) – because it’s likely that any you bring are what you’ll be sleeping on
A pillow for each person
Two bath towels and face towels for each person
All your washcloths
Kitchen towels

8. Shelter

Good quality tents
Tent equipment – stakes, etc

Don’t bring kid tents that can’t at least keep out the rain

Any weatherproofing items you might have – that spare can of Scotchguard, etc.
Tarps – all that you have

Also – power supplies

Batteries
Any camping lanterns – Coleman, etc that use fuel or are rechargeable
Candles
Any oil lamps, etc
Supplies for lamps/lanterns – wicks, etc.
Refillable lighters and fuel for same
Disposable lighters
Sterno/etc cans
Propane tanks
Fuel cans and fuel – kerosene, diesel, gas
Matches that don’t go in the bags
Battery-powered radios
ANY CB radios or other communication devices such as walkie-talkies
Marine radio if you have one for a boat

The rest of this is stuff to bring in the car if you have space after getting items 9 through 15)

Camping stoves
Propane for camping stoves
Any fuel stabilizers
Bike pumps, manual
Solar car (or other) battery chargers
Cargo straps (use for packing!)
Road flares
Ice scrapers
(if winter) Snow chains

9. Personal care items

Bring these first:
Soap – all you have
Any travel toiletries items – shampoo, soap, etc
Toothbrushes – all you have
Toothpaste – all you have
Dental floss
Combs, brushes, hair bands, bobby pins
Spare sunglasses
Spare eyeglasses, even if the prescription no longer fits – someone might be able to use them

Bring these after filling in stuff from items 10 through 15:

Safety razors and blades for them
Condoms
Folding hand fans
Sanitary pads
Tampons

Do not bother bringing makeup/curling irons/hair dryers/etc. If you ABSOLUTELY must bring some makeup, keep it minimal, but it’s really wasted packing space.

10. Instructional books

Especially for handicrafts or school instruction if you have kids.
Gardening books (for veggies not flowers)
First aid books
How-to books – train animals, build things, etc.
Sewing, knitting, etc.
Anything you can build/make/repair/etc
Field guides to animals/plants/etc
Animal care books
Age-appropriate childrens books – a selection

11. Family momentos

Photo albums, etc. Don’t go overboard, but bring some.

12. Tools

Especially hand tools or tools for hobbies. Don’t bring your electric saw or anything really large, but especially bring small tools or specialized tools. We probably don’t need a lot of basic screwdrivers, but if that’s all you have and you have the space… bring them.

This includes sewing equipment and other hobby supplies

Needles
Sewing pins
Buttons
Knitting needles
Yarn, especially wool yarn
Crocheting supplies, including hooks
Scissors – every single pair
Magnifying glasses
Mousetraps
Twist ties

Also includes:

Rope
Tapes, especially masking or duct tape
Glues
Zipties
Work gloves
Gardening gloves
Saw blades
Razor blades
Plastic sheeting
Carabiners
Bungee cords
Twine
String
Electrical tape
WD-40
Sandpaper
Rubber cement
Cotter pins
Solar powered calculators
Spare eyeglass repair kits

13. Valuables

Gold, jewelry, sterling silver flatware, cash, etc. Bonds, etc. Don’t go overboard but if you can stick it in a corner, do it.

If you have time, backup all family photos and documents from computers (as well as any important files) and burn them to CD/DVD. Put one copy of the info in each emergency bag as well as a couple in each vehicle.

14. Household supplies

Toilet paper – flatten and you can fit more in
Paper towels – flatten and you can fit more in
Concentrated disenfectants
Bleach
Vinegar
Window cleaners
Pest supplies – insect sprays, boric acid, etc.
Pest traps – ant traps, etc.
Any insecticides
Moth balls
Metal whistles (used for signaling)
Pet supplies – bowls, leashes, crates, etc.
Duffle bags and other “stuffable” luggage
Leather care supplies for shoes, etc.
Mechanical clocks and watches
Fishing tackle and rods
Safety goggles
Outdoor thermometers
Trash bags
Ziploc bags
Pantyhose
Steel wool pads
Dishwashing soap (not dishwasher soap, but the liquid stuff)
Hand sanitizer
Saran wrap
Mechanical pencils and lead for same
Laundry bags
Laundry baskets (pack stuff in them)
Cooking thermometers

15. Entertainment items:

Favorite fiction books
Religious items
Favorite music CDs
A few favorite movies on DVD or bluray
Crayons
Colored pencils
Fountain pens
A few favorite toys
Tablets/kindles with chargers
ONE laptop per vehicle with chargers and the like.
Playing cards
Books on games – card, board, etc
Board games (NOT Monopoly/Sorry/etc)
Chess pieces/checker pieces

Don’t bring game consoles or other similar items.

16. Bulky food

Well preserved foods – things like canned fruits or canned veggies. Avoid bringing green beans, they have little calories. Try for high-calorie items.

Trailer stuff: (file/sheet 5)

If you can secure a trailer or other towed vehicle, obviously that greatly increases your ability to bring stuff. Prioritize by the categories for the packing of the car(s).

First and foremost – bring more canned foods and clothing and household goods. Especially towels, sheets, and clothes. Keep the clothing practical, but a nice dress or suit is certainly something worth bringing if you have the space. Extra pillows, any fabric, any shoes except for totally impractical items like high heels.

Any food that isn’t immediately perishable is worth sticking in a trailer. This includes baking soda, gum, candies, etc.

Any rubbermaid tubs or similar containers along with any laundry baskets – pack things in them.

Outerwear such as spare coats and jackets are well worth bringing. Children’s clothes that are still in good shape but no longer fit your children would be useful.

More kitchen utensils – metal mixing bowls, metal canisters, metal/wooden spoons/spatulas, etc. Manually operated kitchen gadgets also. ALL your trash bags – including those paper yard waste bags. Cookie sheets and metal bread pans

Brooms and mops. Manual carpet sweepers if you have one. Dustpans. Dish racks for drying hand-washed dishes

Any cleaning products not already in the car – pack them carefully.

Also include:

More instructional books
More fiction that you would want to reread
Maps, road or atlases

More movies and music on CD/DVD. If you have vinyl records that’s not a bad option either.

And personal care items: shampoo, disposable razors, etc. Spare combs, brushes, hair care products, lotions, deodorant, etc. Still avoid makeup.

Weirdly enough – bring your toilet seats – they are useful for making outhouses/etc.

This is also where you can include bulky items.

If you have a generator, put it on the trailer if you have one.

Winter sports gear like snowshoes or cross-country skis are a good option.

If you have folding cots, they are perfect for a trailer.

Garden tools – shovels, hoes, rakes, etc. make good things to bring on a trailer. Also tools – saws, hammers, etc. If you have nails/screws/etc bring them. Any gardening/farming items that are large are useful. Gas powered cultivators if you have the space.

Inflatable rafts, oars, paddles, life jackets are other items that might be useful.

Folding tables, folding chairs, other portable furniture items that pack down. Hammocks.

Entertainment items: cards, games, etc. More of them if you have them.

If you still have space after all of the above are packed – office supplies. Paper, pens, pencils, staplers, etc. Manual typewriters if you have one. Metal or wooden rulers and yard sticks. Anything non-electric that makes life easier.

Any “antique” items you might have that still work – including things like ox yokes, old horse tack, egg baskets, old bushel baskets, scythes, hay hooks, butter molds, washboards, etc.

Things you MIGHT have around that would be good if you have space:

Abacuses
Slide rules
Cigarettes
Tobacco
Disposable earplugs
Garden fencing or wire
Garden hoses
Garden nozzles
Sprinklers
Cat litter
Dog kennel panels
Buckets
Small step stools
Folding ladders
Sausage stuffer
Manual meat grinder
Watering cans
Wheelbarrows
Garden fertilizer
Plastic garden pots
Blackboards or small slates
Chalk
Typewriter ribbons
Grease guns
Hydraulic jacks
Levels
Saw horse brackets
Tool belts
Camping toilets
Solar garden lights
Pruning shears and saws
Rain gauges
Chimney cleaning equipment
Small rugs
Hard hats
Safety vests
Roll-down escape ladders
Chemistry sets
Animal traps
Window film
Anvils
Caulk and similar supplies – sealants, oils, graphite
Flexible plastic tubing
Weather stripping
Wire, especially copper or electrical
Stream waders for fishing
Swim goggles
Water wings and inflatable inner tubes
Baby bottles and nipples
Baby care items – including toilet training items
Children’s books – including coloring books and instructional workbooks
Metal colanders
Metal graters
Food dehydrators
Double boilers
Manual grain mill
Manual food mills for canning
Canning supplies such as funnels, etc
Nut-cracking equipment (crackers and picks)
Mortar and pestle
Muffin tins
Plastic pitchers with lids
Cooling racks for cooking/baking
Tea balls
Cork-boards
Clipboards
Mimeograph machine and supplies
Treadle sewing machine
Wax – beeswax, parafin, soy, candle
Duffle bags and other sturdy bags
Small safes
Flyswatters
Borax, laundry
Toilet plungers
Air horns
Barometers
Boot jacks
Bullhorns
Microscope and equipment
Draft blockers for doors
Pedometers
Metal trash cans with lids (pack stuff inside)
Telescope
Brewing equipment and supplies
Toboggans
Sleds
Kayaks and paddles
Spare parts for cars, even not yours
Car fluids – brake fluid, oils, washer, etc.
Jumper cables
Light bulbs (pack carefully)
Spare bike equipment
Snow chains
Small bells, metal or otherwise sturdy
Sturdy candleholders
Mosquito netting
Power inverters
Lighter fluid
Propane line converters
Charcoal briquettes
Fire extinguishers
Plastic water jugs
Weaving looms
Spinning wheels
Other textile tools
Plastic garden pots
Small plastic/etc starting seed pots (those ones you got those garden plants in)
Potting soil
Barometers
Rain gauges
Padlocks (with keys)
Combination locks (with combos!)
Fly paper and traps
Spare key rings
Metal and plastic pitchers
Metal candle holders
Dust pans (I don’t know about you, but ours seem to walk off all the time…)
Old phone books
Old newspapers

If all of this looks like a gigantic hodge-podge, well, yes, it does. But most of this is very useful in the right conditions. Although we’ve tried hard to anticipate needs, it’s actually impossible to stockpile enough stuff for any extended period of time. And we’re also only human – we will make mistakes and forget things.

Things to acquire along the way, if possible (and safe): (file/sheet 6)

Seeds – especially heirloom varieties, but any vegetable seeds are worth acquiring
Matches
Firearms and ammo for same, even if the ammo is in a caliber you don’t have
Reloading supplies for firearms – gunpowder, primers, shotgun shells and wads
Medical supplies
Rechargable batteries
Farm animals – if you can take care of them!
Large dogs that can guard you
Pool shock (calcium hypochlorite only)
Bleach
Water purification tablets
Coffee
Tea
Powdered drinks with vitamin C
Spices
Binoculars
Candles
Lanterns – camping or oil or kerosene
Fuel for lanterns
CBs/walkie talkies/windup radios
Toothpaste and toothbrushes
Tampons and sanitary pads
Instructional books – especially on farming, animal care, woodcraft, building, other crafts

Basically any other item on the various lists are also useful but the above are priority items. You’ll note there is little food on the list – obviously if you can get more food, try for it, but the chances of it being available are not high.

This does NOT mean you should rob, steal, and loot your way to our place. For one thing, it’s wrong. For another, it’s dangerous. But if you can buy something you’re lacking, it’s worth considering. There is a moral aspect to this, however. Is it moral to take advantage of someone who doesn’t see the situation as dire? This is a concern you’ll have to face yourself and decide for yourself.

This also applies to bringing along others you meet on the way. Only you can judge if the situation is dire enough to take in others and bring them with you. It’s always possible that they will turn out to be bad people who are a danger. Remember that in survival situations and disasters, even good people will do bad things to provide for themselves and their family.

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Comments

  1. The one thing I disagree with is “community rules.” It is your house and you make the rules! You could be overruled and kicked out of your own home. Yes, it could happen.
    I could not get 1/3 of these things into my car even with the back seat and passenger seat empty. This letter may make preppers out of the recipients…lol.

    You might add with emphasis everyone works. No exceptions. Of course, elderly or disabled would do easy things or nothing at all.

    Good job.

    • Anonamo Also says:

      Disabled can be the organizers, baby sitters as able, teachers for various things from schoolwork.. to tying a fly. They can also be supervisors to make sure things are done correctly by those just learning. They can peel potatoes, and plan menu’s. Some of these things I would not deem easy.
      I agree w/ Linda.. your home, your land your basic rules. If they are in separate home, with own supplies, a different matter. Community it may be but not in my home,feet under my table , my rules. It would be hard to pack in regular car, all for even a family of 2, but I would pack every space available.Might not find it til I totally unpacked.

      • I agree. I am disabled, but I can still do many things. Maybe even most things, although somewhat slower. And I have the tools to help me do what I need to do without help from others.
        This is a great article, by the way. Keep it up !

      • Sisterjudi says:

        I have been preparing for 25 years.My family thinks I am nuts.As the world heats up I sent a similar letter and was shocked some family were insulted and mad at me.St.Paul said we all must work,I agree.I also agree my home my property my decisions.I am in charge.My prayer groups goes round and round about community and who is in charge.It has taken me 25 years to accumulate supplies you listed and I am still short.
        Good article.Thanks

    • Plus, do you have room in your home for all these supplies each person or family would bring with them? I agree that these invitees will have tag-alongs because you are so generous with no parameters. Of course, the will tell others. All the relatives with SO will want to bring mil and fil of significant others, plus siblings and their families. Everyone will depend on you to take mercy on the disabled. That is not a bad thing, but if a person who is disabled means a lot to one of your invitees, the disable person may get and invitation but want to bring her children and her grandchildren. You could have 500 people looking to you for help and on your doorstep.

      Everyone will like to be rescued, but how many of the tagalongs will actually have gratitude and a work ethic?

      One time I went to my mother’s house. There in the kitchen was a friend of my younger sister. She was rattling on, having my mother cook extra for her, generally depending on my mother to be nice to her. My mother was nice to her. I had heard the girl had never made cookies, so she messed my mother’s whole kitchen and cleaned up nothing. My mother felt sorry for her.

      I told her to not come around so my mother never got one moment’s rest all day long. I told her my father was brutal to my mother, that my mother had daughters and grandchildren. She needed to find her a family that was lonely for her. My mother did not say one word or look at the girl. Later, I told my little sister, 26, not to drop people on my mother. My mother thanked me for getting rid of her.

      I hope you do not get yourself in a situation where others can overrule you by force or threat of force. But, you have a good heart.

  2. Wow! Very comprehensive!

  3. Anonamo Also says:

    May the Lord Bless and Protect you! You are offering a life boat. Just some quick thoughts..
    ..How long do you anticipate them having ..to pack? They may should start now. For some beginning to awaken, might be a good time, to get the information out. If possible go over it in person, in family meeting with small groups.
    You should include the information, that these will be their basic supplies to start, and there is no re-supply coming.New supplies will have to be hand made from basics.
    Their preparedness should begin now, Should have a bug out bag, already packed with extra items they need daily.
    ..Face it, and they need to be aware, Their survival may depend on these instructions and them following your suggestions, esp if travel more than a tank of fuel… and loaded vehicles use more gas, and travel will not be fast, but probably slow., Without supplies to travel, they will not make it any distance in extremes of weather and if true move is expected they should locate some sturdy barrels with securable ends and place items that will be needed in them and re-locate those ASAP. .. caches.packed sealed with silicone.These should include basic hand and gardening tools and things to maintain them , extra handles, and sharpening supplies,oils for maintainence/rust prevention. Same for possible housing, campers, extra toppers, tarps, tents, and maintainence for all of theses.
    This should give a serious thinking individual and you a chance to determine a number
    I would not mind having such an open invitation, but my ability to give one of such broadness is limited by space and $,and we would all STARVE.
    I do not think most people have any degree of OPSEC and you will be flooded with ppl who will follow those you have so graciously invited.
    I would shorten every list, but make the items inclusive..
    .for less confusion.
    …. as in: Personal weapons, ammo, and supplies to maintain .
    … Canning supplies lids rings, canners etc., Avoid jars unless packed with calorie/nutrition dense food.
    …personal care supplies, medications, pain medications, herbals and essential oils ,diarrhea and nausea treatment,first aid kit/extra bandaids, bandages and ointments. All Health monitoring devises w/ extra batteries protected with heavy cardboard and alum foil wrap. Routine medications, for a min. of 3 mo ea person, 12 mo preferred. any natural replacements for same.Lists of allergies for each person.
    …. Soaps, Borax, laundry soda,baking soda, vinegar cleaning concentrates,20 lb bag lime and DE,any other multi use items, all you have..
    .. food and garbage bags all sizes
    … fire starting supplies,lighters, strike anywhere matches vaseline cotton balls, TP rolls stuffed with dryer lint and candle wax, magnesium fire starters..
    .. min. 4 sets of summer and winter clothing w/ 10 sets unders .Incude for all weather extremes.

  4. Downeast Maine Girl says:

    Great lists, I’ll be downloading them myself to work on our “fire evac” lists (we’re already at our BOL).
    Under sewing supplies, add a seam ripper. I have three and can never find them. In troubled times, you’ll be re-making servicable clothes, taking good zippers out of worn jeans and so on. Also, any tree cutting tools, including buck saws, manual high tree trimmers, axes, sharpening tools, would be great. Oh, and metal buckets. Those have a gazillion uses and are kind of pricey. I’m sure most non-preppers don’t have most of this stuff, but it should get them thinking of what might be useful.

  5. VictoriaS says:

    Perhaps I should clarify – there are four households in the family on the list and five friends who would get this set of lists/packets/etc. Once we get moved to a more rural position, we might increase the friends to at most ten. So we’re not exactly putting out a wide invite. And two other family members get a different letter – one that does NOT say they can bring friends or hangers on. We don’t trust their judgement. THAT letter says that if they arrive with anyone else, we’ll give them some things and kick them back out.

    This doesn’t include whoever the son might bring in now that he’s on his own, but he’s as picky as we are. (And he’s been involved in our prepping since we started).

    We’re still in the process of refining this also … like all prepping, it’s a work in progress.

  6. I have lots of green beans and love green beans. I would bring them anyway since they are full of fiber and nutrition. Plus, I am seriously allergic to green peas. I would sit and eat my green beans out of the can and room temperature if they were not wanted…lol.

    Are you going to limit booze, pot, and illegal drugs? What will you do when a schizophrenic person forgets or runs out of meds. Do you have the means or heart to detain this person? If you run someone off, that person may come back with reinforcements to harm you. I am not opposing you, just thinking you may have to seriously think about the unknowns who come and make it clear what you will tolerate. Put it in writing.

    • Sisterjudi says:

      I as a mental health therapist agree.We meet weekly to discuss things that could happen and what we would do.
      I have about 25 ….72 hour kits that I update every year for those who we cannot keep for various reasons.

  7. Wow! Everyone needs to get a U-Hual and start filling it. The U-Hual could double as temp housing except during the summer. But I think you want everything I have except bulky furniture. Might want to add lawn chairs/camping chairs. Everyone will need to sit at some point. There are some nice foldable chairs available at Gander/Cabelas/Bass Pro – they have rocking chairs too. Did you include folding tables? I might have missed those, but they could be useful also (meal prep, meal time, school work, etc). If bringing a trailer, mattresses might be good to include also.

    You have put alot of thought into these lists. I pray they are never needed, pray your invitees take them seriously if needed, and bless you for being willing to take in so many.

  8. All I can say is WOW! Great article.

  9. canadagal says:

    I think people should have to bring some things & not be a leach. Only those that escaped an earthquake, fire or similar disaster should be allowed to come with nothing & those should need to be good workers. I know people who would love to free load but of course you probably haven’t invited them. This is a good set of lists even for preppers as we forget things & a good set of lists to pass on to others even if not coming to your place. A lot of work went into this article. Thanks for it.

  10. Chuck Findlay says:

    All I can say is. Recipe for disaster…

    • justjane says:

      I agree with Chuck , recipe for disaster .

      • “Disaster” is putting it mildly. Once the flood gates are opened, it will be hard to stop. Word gets around as to who has what and where. In this case a soft heart equals to “dead meat”.

    • Gary, RN says:

      Agreed……Disaster waiting to happen. Blanket invite…”y’all come now” is not smart.

  11. Letter? Just send them the whole article….

  12. Curley Bull says:

    As I have stated before, “If you have NOTHING to bring to the table, DON’T come to the table!!!

  13. PatrickM says:

    How many of your invites will bring along poor ‘ol ____, because they didn’t think you’d mind? If you are prepared to invite folks to your place, you’d better be ready to turn some away.

  14. Hopefully all of this should be done before the SHTF. I agree; no tag-a- long dead beats. my house is my castle and no one can kick me out. Each person must have a deed to his or her property. No limit on radio antenna’s .I do not want an HOA agreement. It will take a lot of trips in order to move all of one’s equipment and food storage. It would take a two ton Chevy Van or better. I prefer to live 10 miles from a town and where the temps are from 92 F° to 20 F° . I prefer that my house, cellar and storage shack be made out of sand bags and cement. A militia should be formed for the greater good of the community. Each person should know an AR-15 is not an assault weapon; a full automatic is an assault weapon, because it machine guns when you hold down on the trigger.

    • Selu Corn Mother says:

      Assault weapon? Do your weapons jump out of their closet, or safe and threaten people all by themselves? Mine just stay where they are put, so they are assaulting nor frightening or threatening no one, therefore they are not assault weapons.

  15. I don’t know what to say. I guess first of all. Everybody should go to truck driving school. You will need a convoy. I know this is not a popular view, but. Improve your knowledge, and, keep your preps simple. I really think it, prepping, is getting wrapped up in the axle. Not just hear but it seems to be a trend. People with a warehouse full of stuff, but they talk about bug out bags. Prepping has become an end into itself. Not a mode of survival. I simplify my life and preparations more as time goes on. I’m afraid a lot of folks are just creating a treasure trove, a destination if you will, for looters. Your not reinventing the wheel. Your just trying to keep air in the one you have.

  16. Victoria S.,

    First, let me say. “Well done on a very comprehensive list.” It took a lot of thought and patience to put it together. The only thing that could have been added was potted plants like herbs, aloe vera, any vegetables in pots, and wagons or strollers.

    Actually, after reading this list, I am afraid I wouldn’t even be invited to join a group. I don’t have half of this stuff. I was hoping for a simple list to give to my family that could encourage them to begin thinking about prepping. I want to get them involved, but not scare them off. The family I want to invite is my children, grandchildren, siblings, and mom. However, this list would make them think it took too much to prep.

    Still, I think I will use the list to help me become more prepared. At least, I could use it to take to the thrift store, garage sales, and grocery. It is a very helpful list for preppers. Thank you so much for it. I have been hoping someone could give me a comprehensive list. I appreciate you doing it.

  17. Sisterjudi says:

    My thoughts after 25 years of living in
    Cow country and having no close neighbors,and trusting no one.
    Is something I learned along the way.

    KEEP IT SIMPLE

    Easy to say hard to do.

    I am a spoiled retired city girl.I built my own first retreat.I now raise meat chickens egg chickens,and incredible catfish.My gardening skills I am still working on.

    The article is a good read,but my family and friends will destroy it after the 3 rd sentence.Sad to say we are in bad trouble .

    My new list as I turn 75 is very possible

    PRAY
    PRAY
    PRAY

  18. Crazy Joe in South Jersey says:

    FIRST …. I strongly disagree with ANY CREED OR POLITICAL AFFILIATION . I cut out my own family and friends years ago that went off the deep end . There are some who now , 30 years later , make Bernie Sanders look like a Conservative . No thank you .

    SECOND ….. Thank God CIGARETTES made it to number 3 on the anything goes list .

    THIRD ….. The reason for number one reason . When the mindset is totally different , when the morality is totally different , when the philosophy is totally different …. You cannot change the spots on a leopard . I do not want to waste ammo if I have to .

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  20. Ms. Fredi Shaffer says:

    Very comprehensive list. Some replys didn’t understand that no one will have everything and everyone would not have a way to transport. Since you prioritized this will really help me make some decisions. I like the way you stTed, this may not help you but would help someone else in the pool. Still looking out for others which you will need. I too have a short family and friend list. Some will take heed and prepare, some will not. I couldn’t see picking up others along the way unless a family was dying And asked you to take the children. Then I could relent as children are God’s promise and I could do better than leaving them to die. I have a soft heart but when the SHTF it will only extend to family and 2 friends. I am preparing extra for them now in my bug out location. A total of 5 families and we will have to operate like the Witness Protection Agency to survive. Thank you for your comprehensive list. The only thing I would add is to try to see more than 1 purpose per item or put it down in priority if possible. Make most things do double duty. Think like a homesteaders and know modern technology may be useless. No electric knives please. Thank you again.

  21. Almost There says:

    Thank you for taking the time to present your view and provide a list to think about. Some things in the list were very helpful and I haven’t thought about. Everyone has their opinion on how to best prepare, gleaning what we can from the information/advice of others. There are a lot things we all think that are “common” amongst us related to how/what we prep and who to include.

    My thinking is that if you can’t bring anything and you have been warned (most likely by me personally), then don’t come looking for me to help you.

    At the end of the day it’s still an individual decision that we all have to be willing to live with ourselves for making.

  22. no point in anyone turning up at our place without food or supplies, we haven’t got extra to feed everyone and we haven’t got the room.
    its the personal responsibility of everyone to prep for themselves, if they cant be bothered don’t expect me to do it for them.

  23. Sadly the large majority of my blood relations burned their bridges long ago, and I would not be able to trust them. However, I have a very close set of friends/chosen family with whom we work together on a multitude of items.

    This was a great list and approach. My only suggestion is whenever possible, test everything, as much as possible. Better having what works and you know works than what youve been told works and may in fact not. I put allot of effort into testing thouroughly and doing my best to ensure with firearms 500 rounds of failure free function at a minimum for handguns, carbines and 100 with distance guns. The list goes on from there.

    Regardless, testing as you have no doubt read in a few articles here is essential to me for my families safety (my children, wife, close friends)

    That and training. Unit cohesion, communication and understanding individual and group roles makes things much easier for us to both live together and function as a cohesive beneficial team/tribe.

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