What did you do to prep this week?

Before we start today, I would like to thank Gregory G, Todd B, N SDavis , and Self Reliant Granny for their generous donations this week via PayPal. Thank you. :handshake:

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At any rate we certainly have the best community… The Wolf Pack is a great place to be, and I’m honored to be a part of it all. 🙂

Okay, let me see… what did I do to prep this week…?

Added this “homemade” organizer to my safe.I made this from a shoe organizer that I picked up at Wal-Mart.

Built this porch… while not a prep item it was a lesson in carpentry…

Put up a windmill… with a couple of pulleys, a belt, an alternator and a battery this thing could be used to produce power…

Put together another Shelf-Reliance food rotation shelf system.

Organized this shelf in my storage area…

Bought some matches.

Bought a few bottles of propane.

Well folks that is it for me this week… what about YOU? What did YOU do to prep this week?

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  1. Spent Sunday and Monday in Chicago because the hubby’s ex managed to not get the stepdaughter to the airport on time Sunday and totally missed her flight. Had to spend the night overnight in Chicago but boy, the bug out bag came in handy then – just had to buy a couple of over the counter meds (and a comb, which we didn’t have in the bag) to be able to spend the night. We don’t just prepare for the big disasters, we also prepare for the little ones! That’s also why I never responded to anyone’s comments last week .. sorry!
    Did some shopping at Cabela’s, Bass Pro, and some other stores while we were stuck in Chicago. Picked up some firestarters and some surplus boots for me. Also some .22LR ammo which was on sale for the first of the Xmas sales.
    Got the parts for the Aladdin kerosene lamp and got it running. Boy, that thing’s bright!
    Put up kerosene and gasoline in the storage barrels. Bought another pump for the kerosene barrel.
    Lost most of Wednesday, Thursday and Friday to being sick. Did get some cleaning done but not much else those days.
    Put a bit more medical supplies (decongestant rub, gauze pads, and feminine supplies) and beans and canned goods up. It was a slow week for food prepping.
    Ebay sales have been decent. It’s certainly a lot easier to sell now – everything is pretty simplified and easy to keep track of with the software. I’m selling stuff that didn’t get looks about five years ago (but would have gotten sales when I first started on ebay back in 1998-1999) so that’s good. This is … very obscure stuff I’m getting rid of – railroad photographs and other railroad papers that my father collected. There really isn’t a good way to get this stuff to the collectors who want it besides either ebay or setting up tables at a train show. So far it’s been worth my effort – and all the money I earn is going to preps or play money, so I’m motivated!
    Put up some more shelves in the storeroom for preps – inserted some extra shelves in shelving units we already had, not more shelves (although more shelves aren’t far away, I can tell).
    Hubby cleaned the cosmoline off the Nagant we bought a few weeks back. It looks really nice now. Just have to find a place to shoot it now.
    Picked up the .45 from the gunsmith after getting a heftier spring put in. Traded some information on how to take isolation pictures of guns for 200 rounds of .45 brass.
    Continue to watch events in the middle east and around the world.
    Am kicking around an idea or two for articles for either M. D. or perhaps Rawles’ site, depending on how wordy I get. How full is your queue, M. D.? And how are the chickens doing? Are they enjoying their palace?
    Started getting seed catalogs for next year, I’m drooling over a bunch of stuff and trying to figure out how to turn more of the yard into garden…

    • Victoria S.,

      I’m actually, getting pretty low on articles for the blog and I’ve been thinking to going to a three days per week posting schedule to compensate for the lack of material.

      The chickens are doing good…

      • worrisome says:

        I think that the quality of the articles is getting a bit better tho……

      • M.D., if the article submissions are down a bit, what about inviting folks to send in a ‘Here’s my challenge; got any advice, Pack?’ scenario?

        For example, Michele’s questions this week about looking into biofuel generators to address her power situation got a lot of good comments. That’s great for Michele and those reading this week’s WDYDTP.

        But if it were a post, it’d be easier for folks–new Pack members, those not able to check in this week, people focusing on other prepping priorities right now–to find or circle back to it later.

        Depending on how many good questions were sent in, you could post one question a week (maybe halfway between WDYDTWTPs?), or just every once in a while.

  2. riverrider says:

    hi all. not a lot this week prep wise, but one big thing that was on my “do” list for a ling time. i installed, hardwired, a 12v LED light system in the entire basement. i also ran a circuit to a charge controller that i can use as a charging station/12v tv hookup. the system uses rv double and single lamp fixtures and extended run LED bulbs. it lights up everything for about 2 watts power draw. next derecho we’ll have lights, quietly. rest of the week was honeydo lists and watching the idiots in dc. you must have to fail math to run for office. taxing the rich won’t make a splash in the tiolet of our debt, and further divides us. we don’t have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. why can’t they get that? i’m stacking it high and deep because i think the idiots, whatever deal they reach, will still send us over the cliff and my pension will be gone. 30 years for nothin’, thanks America.

    • riverrider says:

      long time. how long is a ling?

      • PGCPrepper says:

        Ling time, no see! I meant to play off some commercial and say “have a nice and sparkly day” but it ended up like I was recommending some alcoholic beverage. See below. WTF> “ice and sparkly day.”

        Hate having to proof my own stuff, obviously.

      • Well, in Texas, ling (aka cobia) have to 37 inches to be keeper size….lol.

        Sorry, couldn’t resist that one.

      • Depends on whether it’s a dinga or a tinga, ling that is.

        • riverrider says:

          az, LOL! thats what i thought right after i posted it! its good to laugh again. we need more of that.

    • Warmongerel says:

      They “can’t get that” because without the ability to buy votes with our money, their power is gone. And that is all they live for.

      Love the LED lights. I’ll have to look into that. Thinking of doing a pretty major re-model of part of my basement so that it can be isolated from the rest of the house if need be.

    • RR,
      The congress critters can do math quite well, and a few like Paul Ryan actually care about the numbers and the country. Many of the rest have determined that they can spend money to buy votes, make themselves feel better, screw us all over, and keep getting re-elected. Until some of these folks get principles and a conscience (yea right!!) or we vote them out of office, we are doomed to allow these egotistical SOBs to “rule” us instead of represent us. I still have hope, because with the MSM fully on the left and the Dems doing everything right during the last election, while the Repubs did nearly everything wrong, it was still a nearly 50/50 vote. We are perhaps on the ropes, and lost the last battle, but the war is far from over.

      • Warmongerel says:

        I’m afraid that it may be over. Gramsci’s theory has proven to be true and we’ve been culturally destroyed.

        With the Leftist takeover of the educational system, the populace has been dumbed down to the point where a complete failure like Obama can be re-elected no matter how badly he performs…as long as he mouths the right words.

        Kick it into high gear, folks.

    • Surviving in Ky. says:

      riverrider, Have you heard anything from tinfoil? Curious how he is doing with his recent move to our great state. Send him our best wishes! Thanks.

      • riverrider says:

        sik, tin has been busy getting the homestead ready for winter and filling the freezer, or trying, with deer:) i’ll have to check on him this week.

    • village idiot says:

      Did you see where “Ma” Pelosi said she wanted to give Obama total power over spending and raising the debt ceiling? I guess we know what she and the Dims will do when they get back in power. We will have a Xerxes in America. Pukeworthy.

      And yes, the cliff approaches, and nothing can be done. The sheeple put the crazies in charge, and I think the crazies want to see how fast they can send us over that cliff.

      • I’m beginning to think going over the “cliff” might be a good idea. It would take away the tax cuts (increase revenue) and cut spending – two things that no one in D.C. seems to have the guts to do.
        Yes, it would be difficult but at least it would be a step in the right direction for a change.

      • riverrider says:

        vi, personally i don’t think they want to go over the cliff. i think they are so stupid that they think it can’t happen. frankly, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to happen for the country, except i’ll lose my pension.

      • Hunker-Down says:

        village idiot,

        IMHO, I think both parties want the country to ‘go over the cliff’.
        The individual politician can claim, “don’t blame me”, then next year they can posture themselves to claim credit in ‘rescuing us’. Works for both parties.

        Do to anything else would be to waste a good crisis, any other strategy is not good politics.

        • village idiot says:

          Well, that might explain their reasoning, Hunker-Down. There has to be tax increases AND budget cuts to get us through this crisis. But both sides are so entrenched they don’t want to give an inch. Reminds me of 1856. It will take a 500-800 point drop in the stock market to get them off their butts.

          For my part I would love to see this whole thing go through the legislative process, with a bill passed out of the House on to the Senate, changes made by the Senate, then a conference committee to work it out. Then signed by the President, or not. But at least the process would be out in the open for all to see rather than behind closed doors. Isn’t this the way our government is supposed to work? Wow, what was I thinking? I promise I haven’t been in the drink today.

  3. I’m sitting on my back porch in shorts and t-shirt! In December! Spent my week eliminating unwanted shrubs bushes and brush in areas that would have easily concealed someone on my property. Today I’m finishing trimming all low hanging limbs from my dozen or so oak trees. After today,the only areas that would conceal a person on my fenced in property,are my shop and out buildings. I also installed a few dusk to dawn lights in areas that a thief would likely be attracted to. Fixed my driveway gate so it can be opened and closed with little effort and affixed a few “beware of dog” signed to my fences and gate. I’m keeping my driveway gate closed and locked at all times now. Chickens have really become part of life around here now. 10 more weeks till I start getting eggs! Have a great week everyone.

    • Hey BC,
      on the gate why not put a range target up, put in 200 yrds or so and of course make sure it is a used range target!

      In Canada we are quiet and subtle 🙂

      • well here in the states,especially the deep south,it would just be assumed by anyone trespassing that the homeowner would be armed and capable of hitting a target. i should put up a sign saying, ‘anyone caught trespassing will be put to work chopping wood and cleaning chicken crap from the henhouse” . that would probably make them think twice.

    • BCTrunk,

      Quit bragging. 🙂 I could sit on my back porch in shorts and a t-shirt too, if I wanted to drown and freeze to death and possibly blow away. Boy are we getting hammered by rain today. Hope we are getting LOTS of snow in the high Sierra, and glad it’s not snowing at my house.

      • LOL Michele, far be it for us to speak for our good neighbors in Louisiana, but in Texas, we have a saying:

        It ain’t braggin’ if it’s true.

        • I wore a tank top and shorts today. And I have all my windows open. My tomatoes are blooming nicely.

          • Same here but then this is So. Fl. Beautiful today. Still 72 outside, clear sky, shorts and tee all day, windows open for 2 months now, the ‘porch’ man cave is real comfortable. Hoping for some cooler weather to justify building a fire by Christmas.

          • Hunker-Down says:

            Braggart (I AM SOOOO JEALOUS). Our average high is 34.

      • worrisome says:

        Michelle, you said you don’t watch much television but there is a new show on Nat Geo called Hell on the Highway and it is about the plight of tow truck drivers working Truckee and Donner Pass……on HWY 80. Kinda cool………….and not very safe!

      • well i know its coming but im sure enjoying winters delay.

    • I’m in shorts & T-shirt too BC, 82 right now at 3.50pm.

    • worrisome says:

      BC Here in Nor Cal, while it isn’t Hurricane Sandi, it is better than an inch of rain per hour for hours on end, winds in the 35-45 mile range and a tad chilly to be running around in shorts!~ Tis bread baking soup making weather! Glad you are being productive tho…. And thanks for the thought about beware of dog signs………..now that we have all the German Shepherds in the neighborhood and I have this moose that is sitting on my foot that I found…….having those signs up along side our Do Not Trespass Private Property Signs is probably a good idea….. and why is it that she finds comfort putting my left foot to sleep is something I need to find out about… I have no feeling in it left!

      • worrisome:

        Because she’s a dog, and that’s what they do. Especially Shepherds. Why, I have never figured it out but I’ve had them around me for over half a century.

      • worrisome –
        Over here on the coast, it’s been a beautiful day – sunny, high 60’s.
        Weather for you and Michele should be clearing up anytime now, at least for a day or so…

        • axelsteve says:

          It cleared up this afternoon. I put my Jalapeno plant in the sun and it perked right up. I thought that it was on the way out. I will put it outside if it is clear in the morning.Ammo was cleared out at the local wallyworld last night. It still was today.Cleaned up the marlin 795 and it is ready to go back together.I got some food put away though.

      • an inch an hour is a bunch of rain! i actually would love to get a good gully washer around here. we are way below the years average for rainfall and have been through several years of extreme drought. please send rain!

      • Alittle2late says:

        I’ve had rottweilers for the last 20 years. Its usually a dominance/alpha type action. They want to make you move . Rest your foot on her and watch her reaction. Its possible that she feels secure touching a part of you. Does she try and herd you around the house? Just what i learned from my dogs,not a professional response.
        hope that may help.

        • Thanks a little2late. She doesn’t herd me, she follows me and as closely as possible. She had a really rough start in life, some crazy guy threw her out his pick up window right in front of me. She sits on my foot for comfort, almost always wants to have some part of her body touching me, and has been known when she is anxious or frightened to come and lay on both of my feet and cover her eyes. I want to figure out how to help her know that she could lay right by me and not ON me and I would still be there for her. Because she is BIG and because the neighbor has a german shepherd, he takes her with them when he takes his dog in for training, the trainer says she may never get over all the trauma, but I keep hoping and she has done much better than expected.

          • HomeINsteader says:

            I don’t know if it would really help with this specific problem, worrisom, but I give one my girls Vetri-Calm for storm anxiety. She’s a large dog, too, and the ONLY thing she seems to fear is thunderstorms. She quakes like jello when they go off. The Vetri-Calm is all natural. You don’t want to ‘drug’ a dog, because the drugs only “freeze them”; they can’t move or respond, but they CAN hear the thunder, and they are in worse shape because they know it is happening but unable to respond.

            The other thing that might be worth trying is Valerian root powder; when I run out of Vetri-calm, I’ll be trying this for my furbaby.

            I buy the powder at the local Whole Foods and use a medicine dropper to squirt it into veggie gel caps, which I also buy at the Whole Foods store. You might be able to get them in lots of places, I don’t know.

            Valerian root is very calming. I would dose one gelcap for most dogs under 100 lbs., maybe 2 if you find one doesn’t quite work well enough, and if the pet is over 100 lbs. It really doesn’t take much.

            Valerian root should not be combined with any form of anti-depressant, as it can make the anti-depressant work a little too well, as in, put them to sleep. Like anything else, Valerian root should not be used every day without end – only occasionally, as needed.

            Valerian root smells absolutely horrible and doesn’t taste much better. That’s why I take it only in gelcap form. About 15 minutes after taking, I get “burps” and they are very unpleasant, but it doesn’t last long. And it works very well. Just have to take a little unpleasantness with the relief it brings.

            Valerian root has a calming, or “sedative” effect, but I use it for pain management, and it is effective for such. Pain, unless from a wound or injury, is usually caused by inflammation. Valerian root relaxes EVERYTHING, and can help significantly reduce or even eliminate pain NATURALLY – sometimes better than any OTC or prescription med. You won’t know until you try it for yourself as to how well it will or will not work. You can use it for your pets, too, as described.

            Hope this helps you in some way.

      • New prepper says:

        lol Our GSD does the same thing, love him, but you can not go any where without him in your way

    • village idiot says:

      Well, bc truck, I had to mow my yard yesterday after I got all the pine straw swept up. Mowing in December is really strange, and my azaleas are blooming, which is even stranger. The weather is about as mixed up as I am. And by the way, I have shorts on as well. And are you going to be selling eggs?

      • im hoping ill be able to sell enough eggs to offset the cost of feed. its just my wife and i so we wont be eating that many eggs unless the grid fails. ive have flowers bloom and extremely odd behaviour from plants doing things they dont usually do till spring. i mowed yesterday also. im sure looking forward to not having to mow for a couple months.

  4. Not much happening as far as spending money on preps. Looked at the December budget and it is pretty well all allocated.

    Did start putting in our personal austerity measures, in prep for Jan 2013. Moved and sorted some of our preps, ie. water into the basement and non-freezables into the garage.

    Worked on our weapons, the few we have left, as in cleaning, installing accessories, and getting the reloading ready. That’s my main winter project, reloading. I have a bunch of brass and have acquired most of the other components I need, so a little more bench clearing and I’ll be ready.

    Glad to see the lively discussions by the Pack members. Up here we will keep getting better informed, both on current events and reading up and polishing our skills, as see what the new year brings.

    • village idiot says:

      JP, gun question. I seem to remember you having an 1894 Marlin in ss, .44 cal. How much would a good used one cost? I have one located, but the guy seems pretty high($595) on his price to me. What do you think?

      • VI:
        Actually I have a 357 and a 45 Colt but to answer your question is they sell new for around $450. $600 is way too high, in the current times. If you have access to a FFl dealer, check out GunBroker.com. They are currently in the 450 range w/shipping and FFL fee you should be able to put one in your hands for about $475-490.

        My 357 is my GHB weapon of choice. Goes with me whenever I travel. I like the 16″ version. Handy and ammo is easy to get for it.

      • axelsteve says:

        Village Idiot. Is that a 44 magnum cal or 44 special or both? 600 is a big chunk of money but guns are getting pricey these days.

        • village idiot says:

          JP, thanks, I had a feeling he was starting at a very high point, and leaving a little room to go down. But this is a private sale, and I will pay more, but not that much more. Thanks.

          axel, it’s a .44 mag.

  5. PGCPrepper says:

    Been bed ridden for four days. Doing a parasite cleanse that is making my tinnitus unbearable. I feel like I’m going to die, honestly, but I do see various worms and flutes coming out of me so I’m hopeful. I know gross. Humaworm.com states that 90 % of population is a host for various parasites and don’t know it. I’ve been on their cleanse for seven days and I’m definitely seeing worms. Might want to take the time and read this site at some point or go to curezone and search parasites for an unbiased view. My wife is only forty (I’m 54) and she is convinced so she starts tomorrow. Today she is doing a 10 mile trail run.

    I’ve convinced my wife that we, as a country, are in serious trouble. My undergrad is in economics and I’m totally confused and scared where we are after witnessing the vote and as I listen to the MSM chatter. We believe our country as we know it is over. Too many takers born every day (witness the 17 y.o. chile having babies now knowing who their baby daddy is) and not enough makers equals disaster. Personally, I would like to join the survivor Dan(?) and leave the country if I were well. DW is definitely convinced now. What is so troubling to me is I have the $$ but not the energy right now to move her to a more “desirable” location and prepare properly. So, my prep work has been more about increasing life insurance and taking care on nitnoid things to make her life easier. We sold our rental home a few weeks ago and we have no debt on our home or vehicles but still feel so vulnerable. Thinking about taking Rush’s advice and going with lifelock since we downsized and I cash left over. I am totally getting more paranoid and I ain’t gonna lie. I think we are totally screwed.

    Have a ice and sparkly day!

    • riverrider says:

      lol! get well soon amigo. i might check out that site. since i came home from bosnia they won’t let me give blood any more and haven’t told me why. i haven’t felt 100% since then either.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Sorry to hear you are under the wx. Think I’ll need some ice and sparkly before I visit that website. But I will. Man, have you seen the TV show Monsters Inside Me? I am less afraid of gamma bursts than knowing what is on or in me. It is a total gross out!
        Anyway, there are going to be many who have to Bug In. Hope you are in a relatively safe place.
        God bless. You and your family are in my prayers.

        • PGCPrepper says:

          thank you T-GM.

          I would only feel safe if I lived next to M.D. in TN or Rawles in Utah…maybe a few others. I actually prep for my young bride, mostly but I haven’t gotten far. I wish I knew someone I could trust other than my brother (he is not preparing for anything) that had the knowledge… but not the money. What good is it going to do us. The news making the rounds now is that they want to confiscate our 401K (I don’t have one) and our savings (I have a huge sum) all for the “greater good.” Should I just pull 100K in cash out and bury it with the degradation of the dollar and inflation? Please advise. Do i really need that much silver? If I get well, It’ll go into land and a manufactured home with someone building me a porch in Charlie Daniels land 🙂

          LOL and God bless

          • PGCPrepper,

            I try not to keep much “money” otherwise known as paper IOU’s – if I get over a couple of thousand I start to get nervous. I try to turn those paper notes into something that has actual value as quickly as possible. For example land, gold, silver, tools, guns, ammo, food storage and other items.

          • HomeINsteader says:

            You’ll get lots of answers here, PGCPrepper. MD has been at this a lot longer than have I, and no doubt, knows much more than I do, but I have a slightly different perspective than some people here. I DO NOT advocate either gold or silver for the “average joe”. You can’t eat them. If you have plenty of money, then, go ahead and buy a little of each, if it makes you feel better. While gold and silver may be marginally useful for a short while, I personally don’t believe either gold or silver will help anyone in the long run, other than maybe for target practice. The Word of G-d speaks very clearly of a day when “a piece of bread will buy a bag of gold”, to quote a contemporary Christian song.

            I say invest in a stronghold – do your homework, and make sure it is defensible. If you need details on what that looks like, M.D. is the Master – just ask him. But, be forewarned! M.D. is partial to a certain place! And I am partial to another certain place! Right, M.D.?! ; )

            Find like-minded people who are trustworthy (I find this the hardest part of prepping, but, we’ve done it!) and form a fellowship, with specific guidelines about what everyone must “bring to the table”, i.e., ammo, weapons, tools, skills that will be needed: cooking, canning, sewing, blacksmithing, carpentry, hunting, defense, anything you can think of it. It may be you’re the only one with money, so, you may need to make the initial purchase of land, I do not know. But make sure anyone in your circle can meet certain criteria: defense (the means and the knowledge by which to provide it); but, most important of all, a long-term supply of water that can’t be cut off by some gubment entity, food stores that will last for years, seeds, tools, soil, containers, composting knowledge to build your own soil – whatever you may need – for growing your own food, every imaginable book (hard print – not kindle – I am NOT a fan of kindle for prepping purposes) for instructions…there is much to do, and you need to be AS SUBTLE AS POSSIBLE as you “git’erdone”.

            But, if it were me, I would surely pull cash out of the banks – it won’t be long until you can’t even access your money, otherwise, IMHO. There has been some discussion here over the past several months that suggests it is best to pull money at less than $1,000 per draw, as it gets reported to the gubment over that amount. Don’t know that you want to take that long to get it out, however; it is YOUR money – for now. But I do agree that paper money is a very bad idea – it isn’t backed up by anything – it’s just paper. If you want to store some kind of monetary unit, silver and gold are definitely a better choice than paper.

            As much land as you can manage in the right location with years of food and water, ALL PAID FOR, are, IMHO, a much better investment than even silver and gold. Paying cash for land right now will definitely put you in the “driver’s seat” – you should be able to negotiate a very good deal.

            Above all else, make sure you are debt-free. Debt is slavery, and the master is about to come for what belongs to him.

            • PGCPrepper says:

              Agree with most. It’s not that I don’t know what I want to do; it’s just that I’ve been in a very bad way due to some weird sickness and just can’t get it done. I was a realtor in Northern VA and been in RE all my life. I get it and agree that I want land.

              I haven’t had a mortgage since I was 42 except when I rented my personal residence out and bought a second home. I’ve sold that rental as part of my prepping strategy actually and paid my new home off with a lot of cash left over. I have no auto debt either. Plus, I have a military pension, for now, so you can see that I have set myself up OK….then illness. Not bragging honestly; as I’m not a worshipper of money other than the good you can do with it and for the freedom it allows. Heck, my furniture is old, I have no smart phone and my autos were a ’94 and ’03 until they both quit on me recently. I have less possessions than most on this board probably. I just really wish I were healthy and could take advantage it for both of us now.

              Luckily, I had nothing but a pension when I met my wife so she knows what it took to get it and feels the same as I do about prepping so you might hear from her one day. Thanks for your input. I’m not sure about the precious metal thingy. I can’t just go and pull a 100K out and buy silver when I want to sell the home with no mortgage and use it all to set up a fortress away from the East Coast. I suppose I could just sell the silver/gold when and if the time is right but I’m always hoping I’ll wake up one morning and be OK and we can get it done.

            • I agree that land is one of the best investments, but at least here where I live, a good deal is relative. Recently the taxes on our homestead (house and 5 outbuildings on 8 acres) went down significantly, while the taxes on our raw farmland (about 200 acres) went up significantly. Lots of folks, including some wealthy ones are looking at land for the same reason.
              Even land however, may not be a safe investment if we can’t stop Agenda 21, the long term goal of which is elimination of all private property.

          • Hunker-Down says:


            Just as you have multiple ways to get or prepare drinking water, find multiple ways to barter after TSHTF. Some have posted that having a bunch of one dollar bills, a bunch of fives and a bunch of twenties will allow you to buy/barter groceries and gas for a few weeks just after the banks shut down. (We keep ours buried off site). Silver may become a barter vehicle after whatever society we have considers paper money to be worthless. Later, things like nails to build a chicken coop may be in demand, if you have some extra, you may be able to barter for a ham.

            M.D.’s list, and backups to things on that list is where we are dumping our meager resources.

      • RR, I have heard that it is due the possibility of mad cow disease. Boy that sounds as scary as the worm business!

        • riverrider says:

          patti, mad cow…. hmmm, that would explain a lot, LOL!

          • Yep, it’s because of mad cow disease.
            I can’t give blood either due to the length of time I was working for DOD in Europe – and I’ve been a vegetarian all my life.

        • PGCPrepper says:

          I’ve been really lethargic for a few days due to what they call “die off” symptoms I suspect and my stomach has been grumbling and growling all week. I’ve been on the humaworm for ten days now.

          Just FYI…I had a bm last night and saw nothing unusual upon inspection but I flipped one “piece” over with one of the disposable thingies I keep in the bath room and I found a one inch or so whitish worm underneath…gross. I’m only disclosing this for the purpose of explaining that I’ve read that some you won’t see due to the dark color and some you may not see without inspecting a little closer. I’ve seen some parts of various things that was not undigested food with just a glance too. Amazing really.

          Mind you, I’ve always been a health nut, ate pretty well consistently and was in pretty good shape. Before I got tinnitus real bad and felt a bit sickly I was training for a duathlon competition composed of a 24 mile bike race followed by a 10K run and my wife had just finished a marathon. We were also swimming a bit just in case we would later do a triathlon. I’m just saying that we were pretty healthy and have no idea what I did to get infected. We kayak too, or did. Could have been from undercooked meat, the lake or river, the pool or from someone who left larvae on something as simple as a light switch. We are what you would call germaphobes too btw so this is just downright disgusting to us. BTW, I haven’t felt like working out in months and haven’t so I’m praying this is the problem. Good luck with your cleanse and even if you don’t find anything I feel you’ll be relieved knowing. I have 20 more days to go so we’ll see

          • PGCP, Thanks for sharing your experience. I really appreciate your candor. It will be a relief to eliminate the worms and/or the possibility that they are contributing to my illness. I hope and pray you start to feel better soon. Take care.

      • TXBUBLEHD says:

        When I tried to give blood a couple years ago. I was denied because I spent over two months in Europe and they said it was because of Mad Cow in the meat.

        • When I used to give blood they would ask if I have been to Brazil and questions about my sex life.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Pumpkin seeds will do this naturally. It’s o.k. to roast them first. Bentonite clay will pick up any “residue” in your body and help move it out; you can always buy the clay powder, inject it into gel caps (Whole Foods) and take them like that. Bentonite clay powder has no odor or taste, but it isn’t that pleasant, either.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Oh, yeah..and the pumpkin seeds work for humans and critters; just grind the seed before consuming so there is no risk of damage to the intestine from undigested sharp points on the seeds, especially for young critters.

    • I use snuff to de-worm my livestock – about an ounce or so with a scoop of feed. Works great.

      • Sw't Tater says:

        chewing tobacco is what Grandpa used to de-worm his mules….and they love it.

        • My mule does too – actually, I’ve never found any livestock that didn’t love tobacco. I simply use snuff these days because the little tins are easy to store.

        • Hunker-Down says:

          Back in the last century we used cigarettes to worm our Belgian plow horses. Digging through the ‘stuff’ to find the worms and worm eggs was proof enough that it worked.

    • georgeislearning says:

      wow worms in us? i have always wondered about doing something like this . ty for bringing something like this up. i know it is somewhat disgusting but i cant wait to hear more about this. i know this is sick but can you go into this abit more, like what made you try this. did you have any symptoms to alert you. or like what kinda worms are coming out of you? couldnyou clean one up and photograph it , maybe write up a full article on this. i mean worms and other parasites inside us, holy crap is what i want not devil crap filled with worms. im off to go read the site you recommended. ty again

      • georgeislearning says:

        ive read a bit. more on this deworming. its confusing. some say the worms have benefits and in western countries we have developed new issues when people didnt hqve the worms. all i can say is i dont want no stinkin worms in me. i read raw pumpkin seeds have something in them that gets rid of some worms. this whole thing will require more research. ty again for bringing it up.

        • PGCPrepper says:

          I am the biggest skeptic there is pertaining to almost anything. If you do a search on humaworm….parasites…et al you will see some serious stuff. Yes, I’ve seen worms in my poop. If you think about it, why can’t we become a host and why could it not be the reason for many explained illnesses, allergies or diseases. My wife and I always wipe dow our shopping carts, wash out hands after public restroom usage and try not to shake hands with anyone however it is easy to contract disease through food, air, swimming in a public pool or whatever. Moreover, if our animals oft-times have to be dewormed, why not us. You are about to be enlightened assuming you know how to use your search engine. 🙂

          I’ve seen testimony from folks who’ve had very large worms or flutes leave their body while doing various cleanses and enemas; mainly coffee enemas. My wife is only forty but the very first day she took the humaworm cleanse, she suffered a nasty headache. In your search, remember to include words like candida and “die off” symptoms. You will be amazed as was I. BTW, I have nothing to do with the company. I just reached the conclusion that I was going to order from them after so much testimony from other sites like curezone, “My journey with candida, etc. I’ve heard stories of folks spitting up a worm and one lady had one come right out of her eyeball socket. I know, gross. The other day I went for an acupuncture treatment and as I was staring at the overhead light I noticed a “floater” in the corner of my eye. Trying to observe a floater takes discipline because as you try to look directly at it if it’s off center of 12:00, it moves as your eyeball follows it. It was kinda funny really. But finally I learned to concentrate on the spider on the ceiling >:-( and used my peripheral vision to observe the floater and I’ll be damned if it did not look like a worm also. You likely have parasites IMO based on months of research. All a matter of whether it’s affecting your health and whether you want to do something about it before it does is up to you.

          • PGCPrepper says:

            That should be UNEXPLAINED illnesses in the first paragraph. Typing i the dark. Please excuse.

            • PGCP,
              Okay, you officially have me horrified, I have ordered the cleanse. Hope you find the healing you seek. I know what undiagnosed, debilitating illness feels like. God bless you.

  6. That’s a really great porch! Looks like you kept pretty busy.

    I’ve been working on getting my food pantry organized. Finished up the large shelving unit last weekend so this weekend I have been pulling out all the home canned jars and organizing by type and date. This new shelving is really going to make a difference, now I can eat up the jars of food canned in 1999. The pears are brownish but I figure I can make pear butter out of them.

    After last week’s odd visitor I am working on security. (Turns out he was fired from the store where he worked last week and he’s married with 3 kids, probably his wife got smart and threw him out and he needed someone to take care of him. The store mgr said he was not the brightest crayon in the box.) Anyway I got my Door Club I ordered, made by the same people that make the Club for your car. I’m installing that today on the front door. It came with extra long screws to replace those that are normally used for the knob and deadbolt so I will swap out those. After doing some research, I am going to get 2 sliding bolts for the back door as it opens outward. One on top left and one on bottom right. Also I’m going to remember to replace the burnt out lightbulb at the back door today.

    Went to a discount grocery store a friend told me about, a scratch & dent place very near me. I got 4 bags of stuff for $20. Have to be picky with these types of stores but you can find a few bargains if you look.

    I ordered a pack of 12 coupons on Ebay (who knew you could do that?) for dry cat food, the only kind mine will eat, and will be getting those before the coupons expire in January. I picked up 2 of the big bags while I was at Dollar General as they were on sale for $9 and I got them for $8.25. They also had the chili I like on sale for $1.25 a can so I got 8 of those.

    My visits to 3 thrift stores netted me a dozen canning jars for $3, a half a bottle of lamp oil for 50¢ and 2 gallon sized bags of various taper candles for $3.

    My Berkey came in so I’m really happy about that. Still cleaning and filling empty juice containers, about time to cycle thru them, refresh and refill.

    Hope everyone had a productive week!

  7. PGCPrepper says:

    BTW, this is the site https://humaworm.com/

    …and I really wish we had an edit function after I just read my rant/diatribe/post.

  8. The Last American says:

    “Black Friday” last week was the biggest one day ever for gun sales. Considering that 2011’s Black Friday was the old record, I guess it says something about the mood of America.

    Read a very good article at the “American Thinker” site on what Obummer is asking the Repubs for, so we do not go over the Fiscal Cliff: $1.6 trillion in new taxes, 600 billion in new stimulus spending (Kick backs to FOB’s) and an limitless debt ceiling. I guess 16 trillion in debt is not enough?

    Grabbed up a bunch of Christmas Candles which were on sale, as well as a doz. set of jinjle bells, which make great non-electric security systems.
    Also added to our Silver stash and began to draw down our IRA’s.

    Finished buying my “assault weapons ban” arsenal, for/if semi-auto’s are banned. I plan on writting up my process/thinking and submit it are a small article.

    I’m just some dumb old guy, but the way I figure it, we’ve got maybe 2 years left, maybe less before the SHTF. This whole Fiscal cliff thing will be blamed on the GOP so Commrade Barry’s side can take the House, and rewrite the Constitution. Good-bye 2nd amendment, hello President for life Barry Sotero.
    IF, Obama is as radical as many suspect, no deal will be made and we’ll go over the cliff. 2 years left, we’ll see?

    • The Last American says:

      One other thing. The DW brought home a magazine called “Soldier of Fortune” from the store, Dec.2012 issue. In it is a rather long article on possiable civil unrest and what form it might take.

      Also there is a second article on the going’s on in Argentina and how the Marxist running that sad country has brought them to a spot similar to the U.S.’s.

      If I read the article right, not only has the Government taken all of the retirement accounts, but also most of the Checking/Saving accounts too. Yikes!

  9. Good looking porch MD. Being an accomplished carpenter this past sixty some years, I would have to say you have passed the porch building portion of the examination. Harold

  10. Nice projects there, M.D. Happy your 4-legged friend is doing so well.

    Not too much accomplished here. Bought a few foodstuffs for rotation, including sugar that’s about to jump up in price, and some celery that I plan to dehydrate. Got a couple more mag firestarters (one for dd) and some rechargeable batteries (for dd). Probably get one or two of those solar gizmos there on the home page, if two, one will be a Christmas gift for dd. Spotted coupon good thru mid-April for Harbor Freight’s 45W solar set up. Got the 2nd “reputable” person for my arms app. (And I’ve decided what I want, just need to get asap as soon as legit.) Please Lord, ensure a few more months B4 Madame Feinstein is successful in that 5 cents / each tax.

    Talked with someone yesterday whom I figured to be at least somewhat of a prepper. Very interesting conversation and I came away with some info re local, websites, and great 45 possible. That person also commented that the loons have gone totally vitriolic; we had both figured that would happen if TDL won.

    Started reading “U.N. Agenda 21: Environmental Policy” (same author for Beck’s fiction book) that I got for 99 cents (!!!) on Amazon for my Kindle. Buying a couple of the print version will be a must for two of the dh’s siblings for Christmas. They haven’t figured out yet (or don’t want to believe) that certain aspects of the agenda would yank them out of their big homes/apartments and take away their vehicles. I’m still trying to figure out how they can be so much in line with the left when the left would like to abolish their Catholicism and wastes no time demeaning religion.

    • Mari, I don’t watch the news much, what did you mean by “Please Lord, ensure a few more months B4 Madame Feinstein is successful in that 5 cents / each tax.”?

      • Oh, Feinstein’s jumping up and down again about large magazines, and assault weapons, and 5 cents per round tax. The 5 cents per round tax is their way of “starving” out ammo buyers with additional cost. My suspician is she and the usual bunch of anti-gun might back off doing anything at least for a little while.

        I just need to get my card, arms, and ammo before everything keeps going up and up and up in cost.

    • Yeeeouch on ammo $. Umm, perhaps 9 instead of 45. (Sorry, OpSec making me leave out the .) Perhaps I’d better be looking at Hi-Point for at least one thing.

      • I don’t think the congress (either body or either party) is in the mood for more gun control since they’ve gotten their butts kicked seriously over this issue, and the gun sales send a message in themselves. Where we have to watch is TDL and his propensity to add regulations. The latest rumor is that he’s considering an executive order to have the BATFE reclassify some of the “semi-auto” to class 2 or 3 firearms, making then legally the same as machine guns and requiring extra fees and licensing. There’s also that pesky U.N. small arms treaty. If you have any spare cash or time, this would be the time to support the NRA, GOA, or your state firearms association to help them build their coffers for the fight. Contacting your congress critter is also a good thing to remind them that for most, the next election is only 2 years away, and we don’t forget.

    • Mari –
      I’m interested in the ammo tax – can you give some additional info?
      I know Chicago (Cook County) abandoned that proposal and I haven’t heard of anyone else taking it up.

      • Yes, I saw where Cook County gave up the idea. Wise move. However, watch out on the Fed level even tho now might be a good time for them to back off at least for awhile. If it’s a tax, Congress works on it (unless it’s Obamacare, of course). Unfortunately, when the guvmint needs $, they have their ways of trying to sneak it as a rider onto something else as pass / don’t pass. Other liberal states might try it, too.

  11. Hi Wolfies, it has been a great week!

    I dehydrated left over ham from Thanksgiving, bought some more and dehydrated it. I took some EE supplies off the shelf, onion, celery, carrots, beans, macaroni and such. Then I put the dehydrated ham in jars along with dried vegies and such so that all I need is some hot water and I have soup! I already tried it on the BIL and nephew…they thought it was wonderful……..so it was a success! Since it turned out well, some of the jars are going to be Christmas presents and some are going into the gift 5 gallon buckets I have started to make up to give to those in need.

    Have been working on my list of supplies for the bug out location, it is growing! We will be driving up there this week to see how hard it is to get into after the storms we have been having in No Cal. BIL has already bought a plow for his pick up truck and has it stationed at the bottom of the mountain in a small warehouse he has rented short term. It will be an adventure. The dogs are going along to see how they do up there in snow. Escrow closed this week. First items on the list are finding ways to make the cabin, outbuildings and the area around it more secure from both people and pestiferous citizens of the surrounding forests! The mice need to find new homes as do some raccoons and squirrels that have taken up residence here and there. Building project list is ongoing, but for now, with it being winter, we will work on the inside projects first……….leaving new roofs, windows and new buildings until spring.

    If I get a break in the rain, I am off to do some shooting sometime today.

    Thanks MD for the updates you do during the week. The most ridiculous thing of the week is the media worrying about the Obamas running off to Hawaii on vacation. The $$ being spent could sure help those folks trying to recover from Sandi, or just feed a big homeless shelter for a year, but where ever he is, the whole fiscal cliff thing is going to happen anyway, having him in Washington isn’t going to change a thing. The fact that tdl is trying to arrange for more revenue now and cuts to come later and that he wants and may find a way to get the authority to raise the budget limit only points to how stupid our government has become. Things are bad and continuing to erode….. Do all you can Wolfpack, whatever you do no matter how small, it will help when times get tougher! Stay fiscally conservative, save if you can. Prayers to all!

    • Worrisome, that dehydrated soup prep sounds great. Good thinking!

    • village idiot says:

      Good advice, worrisome, as usual. My strategy now is to spend money on the things I know I might not be able to get when TDL institutes his agenda. Fire-arms, am-mo, medicines, food, seeds, and things of this nature. And land. I think TDL is going to get our 401-ks, so I’m thinking about cashing out even though it will cost me a lot. Still thinking about it. Have a great week, and good shooting! And send us a little of that rain, it’s getting dry again.

      • Village, yes on putting stuff where it is not easily confiscated as in banks is a good idea I think. The whole 401k thing is a tough decision to make……..it is so hard to figure out where to put your feet down that is solid is it not? And this bunch of storms are heading east, making tracks and snow messes in the Sierras on their way to somewhere, so hope you get some rain soon.

  12. Not much money, or time, but I did make some comfrey ointment, made more elderberry syrup and 35 dehydrated eggs and mixed them with dehydrated ham for scrambled eggs. Another 20 eggs in the dehydrator now.

    I’m supposed to get that money from my retirement sometime this month, and seriously looking forward to having my bills paid. With the ‘extra’ money, if there is much left, I have a list of things to buy/do – with only 2 frivolous things on it, new cabinets for my bathroom that will give me a LOT more storage and a generator. I lost power Friday for a little while, and realized if I lost power for several days, as I did in December 2008, I’d have to drive into town to work, because the battery on my work laptop and MiFi device would not last very long.

    So I was researching bio-diesel powered generators, and converting used cooking oil from local fast food restaurants to fuel. I’m still having trouble finding out how long that stuff will store, and the exact method to make the fuel from the french fry oil – some websites have little teasers – a quick overview of making the stuff, but not detailed enough for me to replicate the process. If it looks feasible, I will then contact the local restaurants and see if they would be willing to give me their used oil.

    So, if any of you can help me with these questions, I’d appreciate it.

    1. Names of good generators that can use bio-diesel as fuel
    2. Equipment and supplies and directions to make fuel from used cooking oil
    3. How long it would store once made
    4. If a biodiesel generator is not really viable, then the name of a good dependable generator.

    • worrisome says:

      Michelle, before you do biodiesel, please look into propane? Propane has a never ending shelf life, unlike gas, diesel or biodiesel. Just a thought

      • propane propane propane propane propane propane propane propane
        in case you forget propane .

      • worrisome,
        +100 on Propane.
        I have onsite storage for 1600 gallons and plan to add 800 more this spring, PLUS about 10 of the 20# tanks and a dozen or more of the smaller 14-16oz canisters. We heat with propane using both a furnace and a non-electric wall mounted propane space heater. We also cook and heat our domestic hot water with it. We have spot heating with some buddy heaters that use the 14-16oz canister or a 20# or 100# tank with a 12 foot adapter hose. Properly stored, propane lasts indefinitely. We also plan to add an additional carburetor to our gasoline powered generators to allow them to run on dual fuel. Also, with some simple homemade or purchased plumbing, you can also fill the 20# and 100# tanks from a 500 or 1000 gallon tank, and the little canisters from a 20# tank. The only caveat on the little canisters is that once you’ve refilled them, it is illegal to transport them in a motor vehicle. Finally, the economics of propane (at least in quantity) are great. This summer gasoline was in the $3.60-$4.20 range, and diesel hanging well above $4.00, but our summer fill of propane (just shy of 1200 gallons) was $1.019 plus tax or a total of about $1.085 per gallon. I just love the stuff, but the only way to really save money is to invest in your own tanks and call around each summer for competitive pricing, which is what the DW does every June/July timeframe.

    • Darkdruid says:

      Biodiesel isn’t stable at all…..components seperate and degrade quickly in a couple of months. Pretty much make and use it as you go.

      • Sw't Tater says:

        That is why you add Diesel fuel stabilizer.Have some that has been made more than 9 months, and still stable. Mine was made with a patented additive…and a specific mix.Will not mention name , but it is available and uses vegetable oil that has been used for frying…It is labor intensive, but costs us about 1.15 per gallon when diesel was 3.99 gal. Starter is down, so we haven’t been running the truck.

    • OregonMike says:

      Hi Michele,
      Can I ask how you dehydrate the egss? We have 10 layers and that would be an excellent product to store. Do they have a long shelf life?

      • I have one of the Excalibur dehydrators, and I line the trays with the non-stick sheets. I whip 5 eggs for each tray (6 makes too much of a mess). Then pour it onto the tray. I dehydrate it at 155 degrees, so I don’t have to worry about bacteria. It usually takes overnight, but they should have a very long shelf life if sealed in mylar with an O2 absorber – probably at least 15 years. The eggs come out a little more orange than the were before, but rehydrate looking the same as I put them in.

        I like to dehydrate stuff because it has a very long shelf life, takes up very little space and is light.

        BTW everyone, I borrowed my cousins VERY EXPENSIVE metal detectors, and mylar bags do not register – yeah!

        • OK, OK. I get it, propane. THANK YOU! That was the information I needed. I can always depend on the wolf pack to help me, gosh, I love you guys!

    • Michele,
      I suggest you forget the idea of making your own bio-diesel and install a large propane tank instead.

      To make bio-diesel, you must:
      1. Obtain the cooking oil, which is getting difficult to do as commercial firms are now purchasing it
      2. Strain it to remove impurities and water
      3. Heat it to remove additional moisture unless you’ve working in a very warm environment
      4. Add a mixture of methanol and sodium hydroxide (lye) to the cleaned oil at a ratio of about 20% by volume (8 gallons methanol / 40 gallons of oil)
      5. Blend, then allow the mixture to set and separate into biodiesel and glycerin. You’ll get about 35 gallons of bio-diesel and 5 gallons of glycerin if you did it correctly. If you added to much lye, you’ll end up with enough liquid soap to last you for a LONG time.
      6. Use the bio-diesel – if the ambient temp. is above 55 degrees that is. Otherwise you’ll have to mix it with regular diesel to thin it enough to run your generator.

      Additional problems you may have:
      1. The local police will be VERY interested in you when you begin buying large drums of methanol, as it’s a prime ingredient in producing methamphetamines.
      2. Methanol is potentially explosive. You should definitely let your local fire dept. know you have methanol and lye stored in quantity – for their safety and yours.

      • Another factor with bio fuel is that it sticks really bad. I have a friend with a bio fuel Mercedes. I can always tell where she gets her oil–she either smells like french fries or wantons.

      • I would not use biofuel as a stored fuel for lets say a genny or heater that is usaly unused except for winter. I may use it for immediate use though.I have seen people use biofuel locally , I have never owned a diesle though.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        Some say it takes so much corn to produce biofuel that biofuel is contributing to the increase in corn futures, which translates to higher costs at the grocery stores on all foods, due to increased costs across the board – transportation, etc. You can do some reading on this to understand it better.

        • Hunker-Down says:


          From http://www.cleanairtrust.org/E85-Chemical-Properties-Production.html

          In the latest study, USDA states that the production of ethanol produces 34% more energy than what is utilized in planting and harvesting grains and purifying or distilling them into ethanol. It also concluded that fertilizer industry’s low use of energy, increased yields of corn, and technologies in the conversion of fuel helped in the technical and economic ethanol production in the country.

          Apart from the 34% positive gain in energy, ethanol production uses mainly domestically accessible energy like natural gas and coal, which makes the production more economical. All this citations lead to USDA’s finding that 1 Btu of liquid fuel utilized in ethanol production produces 6.34 Btu energy output. This simply means that the energy that ethanol produces is more than the energy used in harvesting and distilling corn to acquire ethanol.

        • This is true of corn based ethanol which IMO is governnmet welfare to the likes of ADM and Cargill. Bio-diesel however starts with a used waste oil product and transforms it into a useful fuel which can be very cost effective, if you want to put in the effort.

    • MIchelle, biodiesel is labor intensive. Extremely labor intensive. Besides after TEOTWAWKI there wont be restaurants to get the used oil and grease from.

    • Hi Michelle, There is a city homestead in Pasadena?, the family is very self sustaining and you can find info on biodiesel there. They use it in the family car. There was a special about them on one of the “discovery” type channels. They blog at http://urbanhomestead.org/journal/. Good luck!

      MD, I love, love that porch! Wish I had one just like it! Nice job.

    • Michele,
      I made a batch of bio diesel some years ago with some friends, just to see what it takes, and it isn’t all that hard. IIRC it uses Sodium Hydroxide (Lye) and some alcohol. It should keep about the same as diesel with the biggest problem being mold growth, but one of the problems unless you blend it with real diesel, is that it gets a little thick in cold weather. Most systems start the diesel engine and run it on real diesel fuel until it gets warm, and then switch to the bio diesel.

      Before spending a lot of time on this I would urge you to do one thing first. Check with all of your fast food restaurants and determine the availability of used oil. When the first few environmentalist/hippy/prepper/oddballs started playing with this many years ago, the fast food places saw a good way to get rid of “waste” oil without paying someone to take it. As more people started making their own fuel, less and less became available, and finally the fast food places realized that they had a sellable commodity and in general it was inexpensive, but no longer free. The same thing happened with food grade pails over the last few years. They went from trash that you paid someone to haul to a commodity that some folks would take off your hands, to a product that people would pay money for. There generally is no free lunch once any item becomes useful to the masses.

      Make your calls, and good luck, but don’t be surprised if there is no free oil or even paid oil available.

    • in an emp attack will the traditional generator (eiterh solar or gas) work?

      • Bob.
        It all depends on where it is (distance) in regards to the emp source, and the size of the source. What material(s) may be shielding the generator and what the generator is attached to that could act as conductors.

        • It also depends on the type of generator and its control mechanisms. I have two “modern” generators that might be subject to EMP damage, depending on how they are connected at the point of the event. I also have an older 5KW twin cylinder MilSurp that uses a magneto, and no fancy electronics which should be fine. Even some modern engines for generators, lawn mower, chainsaws, etc. still use magnetos and are essentially immune.
          Solar OTOH, generally is susceptible on the panels, the charge controller, and the inverter, since all are generally solid state.

  13. The Prepper says:

    MD — did you upgrade to a trailer, or did you build the house in picture #1? Looking good man!

    • The Prepper,

      When I first bought my property here, I lived in a travel trailer and started to work on building a cabin. Well the cabin quickly turned into a load of money being spent, plus time and work. So to make a long story short, the cabin turned into my workshop / prep storage area / library (I divided it into three walled rooms). And I bought a manufactured home saving both money and time.

      That is the great thing about living in a travel trailer on “junk land” off the grid is that you can live for almost nothing and save just about every cent until you can afford a more substantial home without debt…

      • riverrider says:

        congrats m.d. on the home without debt. now if we can just keep them with all the taxes coming. nice safe, btw.

        • riverrider,

          Thank you sir, it has taken a lot of work, sacrifice and saving to get it done. The place that I have now has been my main goal for the best part of ten years.

        • village idiot says:

          river, I have a question. Do you think it’s worthwhile to put a piston kit in a Rock River? Or leave as is and spend the money on something to go in it?

          • riverrider says:

            vi, almost missed this one…..personally i think the piston thing should be left alone unless the gun was originally built with it like a fal or ak. i hear a lot of bad press on the kits especially, and a few of the factory built piston ar’s. occasional cleaning and good ammo is all you need to keep an ar running. money better spent on good brass ammo. jmho. silent running…

            • village idiot says:

              Thanks, man, that’s the way I felt, but I have a friend who keeps pestering me about it, saying that the piston is much better. I’m of the opionion that optics and am-mo would be a better place to put my money, glad to see someone with real knowledge take my side. I don’t really won’t to monkey around with my RR too much.

            • riverrider says:

              vi, yeah they are all the rage but they push upward on the bolt and my feeling is that eventually that will cause problems. this was bourne out by the early rugers’ bolt tilt problems, some of which destroyed the upper receiver. the ar has worked for over 50 years, leave it alone. the op rod guns were designed that way from the start and if you look closely their bolt/receivers are more in-line with the bore. i always ask those guys where they got their phd in gun design. that usually shuts them up nicely:) good luck finding a decent price on ammo tho.

  14. found a simple easy to understand recipe for soap- so i plan on trying it this week. http://www.ehow.com/how_4695940_lye-soap-lard.html
    went to a homesteading fair over thanksgiving and even hubby is excited to try making cheese from raw milk so have located a source nearby. will let you know how it turns out
    need to buy more tattler lids for the spring
    hubby and i have decided that he needs to find an outside job- our business is just not doing well- we are hoping to pay down the debt and just scale way back to get serious about our future- i know most of you have already done this and we thought we had but it is painfully obvious we havent now
    my aunt is in the hospital overnight- she moved in recently and knows about our preps but is not convinced and she relies heavily on govt aid and the outside world…sigh…all i can do is prepare for her and ourselves i guess
    hope everyone is doing okay

    • Petticoat Prepper says:

      Hey Mama,

      I bought a pack of tattler lids but didn’t use them this year. Have you used them with pressure canned meats or just water bath stuff? I wanted to try them but I was worried about them not working well. Appreciate your input and anyone else’s!

      • have not used them yet either- would be very interested in others experiences- i just learned to can this year but did really well if i say so myself- i had no idea it would save us so much money and did like it so much- we are planning on bigger garden this spring and work on winter garden next year

        • Petticoat Prepper says:

          Glad to hear you didn’t use yours either! If you have the Ball Blue book and a pressure canner, try the beef in red wine sauce and the chicken a la king. Both are awesome especially when adding to them. Plus if you can get the meats on sale it really helps and they are shelf stable!

          Dried walla walla onions and sauted chantrell mushrooms (vaccum sealed and frozen) and then tighten the sauce with corn starch, make the beef amazing. A bit of white wine, dried walla walla’s and alfredo sauce is really good on pasta…. Canning rocks!

          Anyone use these lids??? Next year I may have to experiment with a batch of something. I saw someone on the ‘prepper’ show that was using them on what seemed to be water bath items.

          • I’ve used Tattlers for a number of years now – both hot water and pressure canning – and have experienced no problems what so ever with them. Just remember to soak the lids and rubber rings in boiling water before use, back off the metal bands once assembled about a quarter turn before processing and then retighten the bands after you’ve removed the still hot jars from the canner.
            I’ve heard you can store your jars WITHOUT the metal bands once they have cooled, but I have never tried that.

            • HomeINsteader says:

              Many “how to” canning sites recommend removing the metal bands for storage, as they are notorious for rusting in place. However, I do not store my canned goods in a basement or some area that is not climate controlled (not yet, anyway!). I leave the bands ON as jars that bump up against each other CAN get damaged, the sealed lids CAN get damaged, and air can get in – now you have food spoilage – which you may or may not be able to detect. I leave them on until I open the jar to use the contents.

            • Petticoat Prepper says:


              Oh thank you! I’ve been a bit leary of trying them. I’ve been telling my self that the old jars I have are the rubber rings and glass lid (blue and green jars now) and women used them just fine. Somehow, I just really wanted to hear from someone who’s used them.

    • Mama,

      I wrote an article a while back on making soap that you might find helpful. A few comments about the link you posted–don’t use wooden spoons when making soap–the lye eats the wood and you could get splinters in your soap; don’t use trash bags to line your soap molds–trash bags are often treated with chemicals; you don’t need to leave your soap in the molds for a week–overnight is sufficient unless you are making a very, very large batch.


  15. Petticoat Prepper says:

    Hi all,

    It’s been an odd week for me. I’ve added to my medical kit and now am forced to begin looking for a new pack or bag to store it in as I’ve exceeded storage capabilities the one I have.

    I did get the e-reader per Harold’s advice and I’ve moved 182 prep books to it and placed it in my fareday box. This too needs to be replaced as it’s getting too small. Funny how that happens!

    The biggest prepping I’ve done is on my Nook. I’ve moved all my prepping stuff to it and begun reading them; including MD’s ITEOTWAWKI-and I feel fine. The minimanual of the urban guerrilla definately freaked me out with the ‘right wing’ comments of how evil they are! I also downloaded the LDS manual provided by a link found here and I’ve almost read the entire thing… 500+ pages.

    Realize now that I don’t have nearly enough food and am thinking I need to ramp that up. Plus the defense of said food…need more range time! Hopefully this week. Part of the end of the LDS manual has some great info about how folks will likely act and I must admit I’d never thought of some of the behaviors talked about. PollyAnna I guess. I would have given a bit of food (rice and beans and a couple of water bottles) but see now that’s NOT a good idea.

    So my biggest prep is in knowledge gained. Will continue with that this next week. Plus a big run for more food items. Hope all the pack had great weeks.

    • OregonMike says:

      Hi Petticoat (love the handle)
      I purchased the LDS hardcopy and was totally surprised to find the pro gun articles inside. This is a terrific resource for preppers.

      • Sometimes knowledge is even more important than stuff. I consider that a good week.

        • Mrs.M,
          “Sometimes knowledge is even more important than stuff”.
          I would say “always” instead of sometimes. You can have stuff lost, stolen, or destroyed, but knowledge and especially practiced knowledge also called “skills” is always with you.

        • Petticoat Prepper says:

          Thanks OregonMike- I’m in the Valley here. The download I got has way more in it than I’d thought it would. Mrs. M you’re right knowledge is sometimes more important.

  16. The Prepper says:

    Spent all day yesterday digging holes and planting fruit trees. Added a mulberry, nectarine, persimmon, apricot and two elderberry bushes to the home landscape. Also started looking at privacy hedges on the Arbor Day website:


    Their trees and bushes are CHEAP, especially if you pay them $5 for a one year membership (you can pay a bit more and get 10 trees for free). Also put up another shelving unit and kept working on organizing my preps. Hope everyone has a blessed week!

    • Yes the Arbor foundation’s 10 ‘free’ trees sounds great. What they send you are tiny twigs with one tiny root at the bottom. Of the 10 + 2 free ‘trees’ I got 3 years ago, one of the redbud bushes lived and one other, and I babied those suckers half to death. Both of the living trees are up to a whopping 6″ now!

      • The Prepper & Michele,
        Over the years I’ve planted 200 evergreens (blue spruce, white & yellow pine), 50 sugar maples, and a handful of ornamentals. These were all purchased from my Department of Natural Resources (Ohio), Division of Forestry. They were very inexpensive, something like $5-8 for a bundle of 25 or 50 trees (all the same kind of sticks you describe). You might check with you state DNR and see if similar deals are available, since the price is right, and the stock all seems to have done well, except for about half of the evergreens which became deer food.

      • The Prepper says:

        Well that’s a bummer. Guess that explains why they are so cheap, and why Pike’s charges an arm and a leg for good looking plants.

      • One can take a cutting – about a 4″ tip from a healthy tree/limb – dip the cut end in water then dip it in root hormone about an inch. Get a ventilated (so the water can get out) tray that’s about 4″ deep, fill with sand and stick that cutting, cut end first, into the sand to cover the hormone. Set that tray in a white plastic garbage bag and prop up so the bag doesn’t touch the cuttings. Put about 2 cups of water in the sand and set it in the sun. Peek in about every 2 weeks to check for water. After about 6 weeks prepare to set the seedlings our of the tray and place in pot to encourage further growing. Keep watered and in the sunshine. I was getting about 10 – 20% success so get lots of cuttings.

    • try your extension office for cheap trees that come with large roots. Mostly you’ll get seedlings but can order bundles of nut trees or fruit trees or trees to stop (or slow down) erosion.

      • Plant Lady says:

        I got a lot of my fruit trees from our Soil Conservation Service. Each county office offers a different selection. Many carry trees and shrubs native to your specific area for reforestation, erosion control, wildlife habitat and food. Our county offers a good selection of fruit trees, berries, grapes, asparagus, etc. but the next county north only offers a couple apples and pears. The trees I have been getting are 5-7′ tall with nice root systems – comparable or better than you would find at a big box store, but are bare-root rather than potted. The fruit trees cost only $14 ea or if you buy more than 5 trees the cost is $13 per tree.
        And be aware that fruit trees are addictive! You get a couple here, a couple there…over a few years…and the next thing you know you have 60 fruit trees – with 5 more on order (hehe)! And I need a few more pears…

        • We started with three blueberry bushes and 3 pear trees. I have 2 concord grapes, 2 green seedless grapes, 2 red seedless grapes, 2 muscadines, 2 scuppernongs, 1 thornless blackberry, 1 dwarf almond, 1 crabapple and 2 other apples on order. I know what you mean about it being addictive. My next order will include a pomegranate at the very least. Once all this is planted, I’ll have to determine if I have any room left for anything else.

  17. Bought some lidocaine HCL in crystalline form, a case of 15ml sterile saline packets, a digital scale accurate down to the milligram range, and some misc laboratory supplies. I got an idea…

  18. axelsteve says:

    My wife left to Denver for Sundays Bronco game so I have been kinda baching it since. Weather has sucked lately and we lost power last night momentarily.I wish that it would have been out longer ,quieter and darker.The yard is a mess but luckiely I did not lose any trees. A x coworker lost a big oak tree last night.I wonder how his landlord is going to deal with it .My yard is a bit swampy but I got off easy compared to others. The Russian and Napa river has had some flooding reports. I wonder if the grapes will be affected by this rain.As far as preps not much to talk about.

    • axelsteve –
      Up here, most everyone went ahead and got their grapes in by the end of October instead of taking the chance of leaving them on the vine for additional sugar content.

  19. Swabbie Robbie says:

    I went deer hunting with my 45 cal. Thompson Center Hawken muzzleloader. My best friend did as well with his trade gun (also 45 cal.) Not a deer to be seen! 🙁 We target shot them for a while, too. Neither of these are modern inline muzzle loaders. We both prefer the old traditional guns.

    So while I was at it I inventoried my ammo (modern and black powder stuff). I found I actually do not have a bullet mold for one muzzle loading pistol -a .457cal. That will be remedied soon. I also need some reloading dies for two modern rifles and have a few dies for calibers I no longer own.

    I am still debating Getting a 50 or 54 caliber Lyman Plains rifle. My indecision is over percussion or flintlock. If there is a terrible collapse, where things as simple as percussion caps are not available, a flintlock would be useful. Granted, it would take a few years for modern ammunition to be gone, but the skill is worth having and ones heirs could benefit from such a gun.

    I decided that this year I am going to pay attention to fishing. Something I have not done a lot, so my equipment and skills leave a lot to be desired.

    • S R, for percussion caps look for a Tap O Cap a die for making hulls from aluminum cans. They are no longer manufactured but used ones do pop up on ebay and gunbroker etc. For filler paper roll caps or plastic ring caps. Various compounds can be made I won’t go into for safety’s sake. My T/C Renegade wears a 209 shotgun adapter, plus I have an adapter to use small pistol primers in it as well. The draw back is a live fireing pin under a half cocked hammer, a deep acorn nut set between hammer and fireing pin fixes that. The advantages are versatility and weather resistance. In the ROA section of THR is a dandy little adapter for pistol primers for a cap and ball revolver.

  20. Alittle2late says:

    Hi everyone,
    What did I do this week? I finally got the gutters put on the shed/barn and connected to the rain catchment system I built over the summer. The house system will be next if the shed system works well enough.
    Learned how to darn socks. used a wooden baseball bat for the inside of the sock to hold shape, seemed a little safer than using a light bulb. Steel toe boots are hell on socks. Made plans to make some smoked sausages over the holidays, should be fun.
    Has anyone ever tried to pressure can cabbage rolls/pigs in a blanket? Its my favorite food ever. Wondering if I should wrap them like normal or layer everything in the jar….. any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Made kindling from wood scraps laying around, filled a 55G drum. Cashed in all my change to have a little extra prep money. Took another load of scrap in yesterday also. Thats about it for me this week.

    • Alittle2late,
      I love pigs in a blanket & stuffed peppers. Don’t know the answer to your canning question, but would be interested in knowing myself if someone out there has a good answer or recipe.
      Hmm, now I need to make some pigs in a blanket, since my mouth is watering at the mere thought.

  21. ConnecticutYankeeinGeorgia says:

    Hello all,

    I had a question regarding making ammo. The calibers I’m interested in are .223 / 5.56 NATO and .308 . I know you need things like primer and powder, but I was wondering if you could tell me what tools are needed and if you could reuse spent brass cartridges, etc. Any tips would be much appreciated since this stuff is expensive!

    • ConnecticutYankeeinGeorgia:

      I’d start with a good reloading manual. Personally I’d start with a Speer manual. They make quality bullets that are not expensive. Sierra does too, but their manual is a little more difficult.

      Yes you can reuse your brass. But you will need to inspect it, and make sure it has a central primer hole (Boxer primed). If you don’t have a reloading set I’d look at a Lyman turret press. It’s faster than a single stage press, you can leave the dies set in a removable disk, and is about the same money.

    • ConnecticutYankeeinGeorgia, what part of connecticut are you from? i was born and raised in enfield.

      • BC,

        That’s fairly lose to Sommers, right?

        • yes! been to sommers? i grew up in my dads welding shop in sommers.

          • My mom was born and raised in Sommers. My grandparents had a big farm right in (what is now) the middle of town. My brother and I used to walk a few blocks to see our great aunt who lived across the state line. It was so odd to a five year old that when we visited our aunt the time changed. LOL

          • BC,

            Did you ever go to the Philips 76 station, the one next to the big white house?

            • Wow! Small world! My mom worked for Milton Bradley in long meadow. My dads welding shop was beside the state prison in sommers. Camerata truck parts owns the building now. My little brother still lives in sommers.

      • ConnecticutYankeeinGeorgia says:

        I was born in the beautiful city of Bridgeport (sarc) but lived in Shelton. We moved to GA when I was six.

        • I’m very familiar with both Bridgeport and shelton. I left ct when I was 16 and hitchhiker to Florida. I hated cold weather so much I couldn’t stand staying there one more winter. I’ve lived in Louisiana since 80.

          • ConnecticutYankeeinGeorgia says:

            Can’t blame you. Whenever it’s 70 degrees in Atlanta in December I call my cousins and let them know I’m in a T-shirt haha.

    • CYG, I began loading with a Lee field loader aka ‘the whack a mole’ it is a complete load set in box the size of a paperback book. I keep one for each caliber in my GOOD packs. A mallet, or rock and your good to load. A good load book is a must for advanced loads, the Lee set comes with very complete simple instructions however. My preferred reference book is the Loadbooks USA series. One book one caliber with loads from most bullet and powder manufacturers. A link for the loader http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TBC1NU/ref=as_li_ss_il? ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004TBC1NU&linkCode=as2&tag=preputilvehi-20

  22. M.D.
    “Bought a few bottles of propane” I use a 20 lb and now 100 lb bottles instead of these expensive useless bottles. Just buy the adaptor, which is readily available from most propane stores, or sporting goods stores. My adaptor hose is from BigBuddy, MR Heater. The first 20 lb bottle you use the hose and adaptor is paid for many times over.

    Carpentry is a prepper skill as well I Think

    • WildernessReturn Ontario,

      Yep, I have four 100 lb bottles and two 20 and the adapter I got these at a good price and as you van see in the pic I too have a BigBuddy heater.

      • MD,
        You can also make a simple adapter to refill the canisters from a 20# tank.

        • OhioPrepper,

          I’ve heard of that but have never done it myself – the small canisters that I have are for cooking, and the 100lb ones are for emergency heat.

          • +1 on refilling your own.
            To refill the small bottles from a 20# tank:
            Get yourself one of these adapters.
            1. Attach the adapter to your 20# tank
            2. Turn your 20# tank upside down
            3. Attach the small canister to the adapter
            4. Open the valve on the 20# tank
            5. As the propane starts filling the small canister, lift the safety valve pin on it with a set of needle nose pliers (wear gloves! Propane is cold) until the propane begins to exhaust through the valve. (this will take some practice to know when to release the pin – at first you’ll either only partially fill the small canister or you’ll waste some propane trying to get it completely full)
            6. When full, shut the valve on your large tank.
            7. Disconnect the small canister and put it in a bucket of water to check for leaks. (pull and release the safety valve pin if it’s leaking – don’t push on it to try and stop a leak)

            Saves money and keeps you from having to dispose of the empty small canisters.

            • Hunker-Down says:


              Sorry, I suffer from the paralysis of analysis, I must over complicate everything. At step 7, if the canister is leaking and we pull and release the safety valve, does it mean the canister can not be refilled again or can the safety valve pin be reused if there is a leak on a subsequent refill?

            • k.fields,
              Thanks for the link. The adaptor I use is a homemade one from some copper tubing and the appropriate fittings; however, yours looks a lot more convenient.
              You can do the same thing from a 100# tank, keeping in mind that the larger, heavier tank will present more of a challenge to handle (or men handle as the case may be).
              To fill the 20# & 100# from a larger bulk tank, check with your local propane supplier. This requires a bulk tank with a built in liquid feed tube and is also the same setup used to fill the tank of a propane powered vehicle.

          • Hunker-Down –
            The safety valve is spring loaded and pulling out on the center pin simply manually opens the valve. A drawing would make this really clear, but hink of it as a backwards air valve like on a tire – on the tire you push the center pin to release the air in the tire, on the canister you pull the center pin to release the air.

            Sometimes the canister valve won’t re-seat correctly when you first release the pin after filling, causing a small leak of gas through the valve. By re-pulling and then releasing the pin, the valve will usually re-seat just fine with no harm done to the valve and the canister can be refilled again when empty.

            My warning to not PUSH on the pin to stop a leak was made so folks don’t damage the valve and make the canister unusable.

            • Hunker-Down says:


              Thanks. We have a few one pounders, 3 twenties and 2 thirty’s,and will get more when the money is available. I’m in my mid 70’s and a 30 pounder is about all I can wrestle with. 100 pounders (I’m told) should not be laid on their side and upright they are too tall for our OPSEC needs so we don’t use them. I can handle the smaller tanks, even in 2-3 feet of snow without the neighbors finding out what we are doing. In our area we are not allowed to have tanks like OhioPrepper has.

              We have a Coleman propane stove for cooking, a Volcano II which can burn propane and a Mr. Heater Big Buddy for inside heating.
              That refill kit will add a lot of flexible options to our equipment; thank you again.

              In the last 2 years I have been looking for a sale on charcoal but have never been lucky enough to find one. I’m saving to buy a 30 gallon galvanized can and safety lid, to fill it with charcoal and store it outside, next to the propane tanks.

              We had none of this before joining M.D.’s Wolf Pack and like everyone else, hope we never have to use it.

            • Hunker-Down
              Glad I could help.
              Re: charcoal
              Remember that charcoal briquettes are simply made of sawdust and wood scraps and will become pretty useless if they get wet. I would store them loose (without the bag) in a number of plastic buckets and use a bead of silicon around the top edge to lock the lid in place. If stored in a large container that is being constantly opened for use, the charcoal near the bottom will probably absorb enough moisture to be unusable.
              If you’re considering a metal container (which will actually add to the moisture due to condensation on the metal surfaces) for fears of spontaneous combustion, those reports have been proven to be for the most part false – although you will still find them repeated in the press every year.

    • Rob in Ontario says:

      Wilderness nice to see you back hows the new place ?

    • Not much for me this week. I did find a treadle sewing machine, works, just no bobbins or needles. It’s on layaway, will pick it up on the first. Nice wintertime pursuit to learn how to use it, once I find bobbins and such for it. First treadle I’ve seen in these parts so I snagged it. Singer.

      I have a Mr heater as well, but use the bottles. The 20 lb tanks can’t or shouldn’t be used in a house – the hose isn’t long enough.

      How are you using it in the house with a 20 lb tank Wildnerness? I get tired of the extra expense of the small bottles.

      Blessings to all.

      • Sw't Tater says:

        we had our 1959 model trailer plumed for propane in the late 60’s..you just use a long line, and a shut off on each end the best i remember,we used 100 lb bottles, chained to the hitch, the heater and stove where in the center…

      • Judy, another one says:

        Call around to sewing machine repair shops for belts and bobbins. I know of one in Wichita that has parts for the treadles. It is called A-1 Singer Sewing Center.

        • Sw’t Tater, Judy, another one

          Thanks for the replies. I’ve written down the name of the store – if I can’t find anything locally, I’ll be sure to call them! And of course, ebay, craigs list, estate sales etc. lol My winter entertainment is set!

      • nancy (Northwest) says:

        Grannyj, (Hopefully, the third try to post this will be the charm) My Singer treadle is about a 1910 model and it uses the same bobbins and needles as my 1960 model Singer and they are readily available. (My mom’s old electric Singer used a real skinny bobbin about an inch and a quarter long [I am guessing, that was years ago]and they are rarer.)

  23. Light week, actually had some work during the week
    But added 140 round of 308, and 100 223, picked up 4 new bore snakes, and 6 boxes of matches
    But tomorrow will rearrange the garage to make more space

  24. FreeRangePagan says:

    Back in the swing of things! Got four liters of water put up, finally cleaned up the apartment from Thanksgiving adventures, and organized the craft room.

    We had some down time this past week. We don’t have the plans for the next show but we have to show up anyways. I built another shelving unit and added drawers to help organize the kitchen things more.

    Stocked up on feminine products, paper towels, some soap and toothpaste, and a bunch of canned veg. The pantry is mostly filled, so now I can start on stocking the craft room more.
    Bought jumper cables and a flashlight for the car as well as a bin to keep it all in.

    And the most awesome thing is that I finally bought new boots! Steel toe and water proof and they actually fit my feet! I’ve been looking for good boots for two years now and I’m so glad I found some.

    Hope everyone has mild weather and a good week!

  25. School House says:

    Hello Everyone…

    A slow but steady week. Cut up the washer for counter tops for my work bench. They work really good, especially if I am working on something that has oil, grease or gas involved. Clean up is really quick.

    Winterized all my small engines, draining all gas & oil. Changed all the plugs fuel filters & gas lines. Ready to go in the spring or if there is an emergency.

    Sanded all wooden handle tools, oiled handles with boiled linseed oil, cleaned metal parts, painted, sharpened and covered sharpened edges with masking tape.

    Getting out all the Christmas decorations today. So will have some fun with the granddaughter.

    That’s it for me… ADIOS

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Cut up the washer for counter tops? Now, that’s a clever repurpose? Any chance you could submit this with photos? Maybe as part of the current “contest”?

      • HomeINsteader says:

        clever repurpose! (Did not mean to turn this into a question!)

        • School House says:


          I’ll try to post pic’s but I’ll probably have better luck at parting the red water…LOL

          Here’s a visual: Stand in front of a washer or dryer and lay it over on it’s side. You are now looking at the counter top. The back of the washer/dryer is the back of the counter. Coming forward where your knees touch the machine is the front of the counter and the radius bull nose. If you can visualize that just cut to fit. It takes some time. Spend the whole day on it and take your time. You only have one shot at it. If you get frustrated just walk away and come back to it another time. And laugh at yourself. Trust me it does wonders…

          I used my skill saw with a metal blade in it. I taped the guide (bottom) with blue painters tape so no scratches. Cut it to fit and grind any sharp edges.

          Flip the machine over and do the same to the other side. You will have left over areas on the machine. Use those for the back splash or where ever on your property it can work. Free washable metal enameled surfaces are hard to come by. Mine were dumped illegally. I saved every screw and clip also & just put them in my misc. screw coffee can.

          It works… ADIOS

  26. could i get a little help recently someone had an artical or link on veterinarian medicine how to treat some aliments at home when there is no vet does anyone have the link anymore i forgot to down load it to USB drive and can not find it thanks

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Bp: there have been many posts on this subject, so, I’m not sure exactly what you are looking for. One of the vet meds suitable for humans and common for “150-lb. goldfish” is Cephalexin, or Fish Flox Forte. I’ll leave you to do your own research, as there are others, but I have taken Fish Flox Forte, and it worked great. Some people get upset stomach, so, it’s recommended you take it with food. I did not, however, and did not get an upset stomach, but, apparently, it happens.

      There are many good sources for emergency medicine, but I personally like:

      Dr. Bones and Nurse Amy’s Doom and Bloom Nation


      I strongly urge you to get the book when you can, so that you will have this training and info available when SHTF and power is down (no internet).

      Look in the archives on this site, as well. You’ll find lots of good information. And there are others here who will, no doubt, provide more information.

      Best wishes, and KEEP STACKIN’ IT HIGH!

    • HomeINsteader says:

      There’s another book or two I’d like to recommend:

      “When There Is No Doctor” Preventive and Emergency Healthcare in Challenging Times (Process Self-reliance Series)

      and it’s companion, “When There Is No Dentist”

      You can find both in several places, including Amazon and ebay.

    • Bp,

      I have ordered lots of stuff from Cal Vet Supply. I have taken the amoxicillin and my dh who is allergic to penecilin has taken the doxycycline hyclate.


      • BamBam, how are they listed in their catalog? I would like to order both, but could not figure out where they are listed. God bless, Linda(since there are now more than one of us Linda I may have to change my name)

  27. I picked up a 33 round mag for my Glock and 100 rounds each of .45ACP and 9mm. Also bought a 24 pack of some cheap lighters.

    Spent a day last weekend clearing out some accumulated stuff we never use anymore from the basement and donated old clothes and assorted stuff to the Salvation Army. I plan to build some more shelving in the extra space and adding to my food preps. Also have been reading “Backyard Homesteading: A Back-to-Basics guide to Self-Sufficiency” by David Toht. I will try my hand at some gardening next spring, wish me luck.

  28. OregonMike says:

    Hi All,
    Kind of a slow prep week. Lots of rain here, also. Coverted a small closet to a prep storage with shelves. Had used up all other shelf space with canning supplies and can’d food. Got on the Auguson site and put $520 worth of deydrated food into the cart, thinking I’d print the list as a checklist then purchase some each week. Dehydrated meat is too expensive! Found 93% ground beef on sale so cooked and canned it. Bought a hundred pounds of dog food and hope to keep 100 always in rotation. Still experimenting with straw bale winter gardening. So far the chickens have left everything alone.

  29. Spent much of the week running in circles, fixing things that broke last week.

    Aside from that, bought some fire bricks to make a rocket stove burn box, and tried to get caught up with my cryptography class after I got my computer fixed. Did some gardening and a little home repair stuff – cement work mostly.

    I bought a nail puller called the Dead On Tools 8 inch nail puller. It’s like a mini crowbar. I wanted a 6 inch one but they didn’t have it. Got to use it a bit pulling nails out of something I’m making out of wood that I hammered in nails wrong into. I saw a review of it somewhere, either here or on the other blog, and thought I’d get me one. If you made a little sheath for it, it’d be a good tool for carrying around and disassembling wood that was nailed together, like say, trim or a shed or maybe a boarded up window, except those are probably screwed on. You could use it as a weapon I guess, if you’re attacked and have no other weapon, it’s sharp on both ends – could sharpen it more maybe, or just use it as a small club. It’s lighter to carry around and easier to hide than a full size crowbar, but not as much of a fulcrum. It’s nice and thick compared to the wimpy cheap nail pullers. Built to last. And it has a bottle opener in it.

    It has been a frustrating week. Have been very tired, too, and haven’t exercised much. No running, but a few pushups here and there. I hope for better next week.

  30. Not much this week. Lots of reading and working. Stormy weather in my part of the state so when at home am definitely stuck inside.

  31. Spent three weeks almost immobilized due to allergies. Usually have a day or two of problems this time of the year, but the strong winds and dry weather caused every kind of pollutant to arrive here and cause me problems. However we bought some more canned goods, I got my cholestrol checked (Down), and we had a large tree cut down. It was too big for us to do safely and was occasionally dropping branches in high winds so bit the bullet and paid the experts to do it. They did a great job–left the area clean as a whistle and absolutely no damage to the surrounding trees, garden, and buildings.

  32. Hi Wolf pack,
    My prep this week has been planned for several weeks and will be paid for over the next several weeks. I had MAJOR dental extractions and dentures installed. I have read so many comments on this blog about getting done whatever needs to be done; and, now is just the time before January with all of its little surprises gets here. Getting this project done has been a big relief for me. I didn’t realize how much I was worried about the possibility of tshtf and my new teeth being hundreds of miles away from my mouth. It looks like me and mashed potatoes are going to be best buddies for a few more days.

  33. Thomas T. Tinker says:

    Canned Oats ala Worley’s outpost.
    Ammo ala Adco Arms.
    $11.25 face value junk silver ala… I’m not saying.
    Water containers ala walmart.
    Pmags ala Adco Arms.
    9vdc LEDs ala Amazon.
    OTCs ala Costco.

  34. Picked up 1600 rds of various ammo for the near future, 38spl, .380, 45acp, 410 buck 45lc, .223. Closing in on 6000 rds in storage now. An acquaintance has 10,000 rds each of the 5 calibers he fires in storage, and 2 twin firearms for each caliber. The Circuit Judge-revolver-carbine is fun to shoot and accurate to 50 yds, at least in my hands, a friend has one with a 4x scope on it and takes hogs with it often at over 50 yds.
    Planted snow peas, spinach, leaf lettuce, romaine, bush beans and onions today. Picking and using fresh lemons off the trees now, plenty of starfruit to eat as well. We grow about half the greens in rain gutters full of soil mix. We have a vertical gutter garden of 10′ x 1′ with 60 ft of gutter. We plan to add another unit in Jan.
    Froze over 100 home grown bananas this week.
    H.Depot has a flashlight on sale for $20, LED, 500 lumens, 3- std ‘C’ batteries. Works great. We got 5 of them, 2 for us and 3 for the kids. Brighter than a 2 million candle power spot light.
    Love the small windmill battery charger MD, and the porch looks great too. Another battery charger is an alternator hooked up to a bicycle with a vee belt. Peddle power baby.

  35. Buuurr in Ohio says:

    Did some SAR training in the mild weather…

  36. Surviving in Ky. says:

    Hello Pack, Took some time off from prepping for a while and let the funds build back. I’ve also been down with what the doctor thinks is a blown MCL and maybe miniscus. I have an MRI tomorrow and am hoping it is not as bad as they think. I managed to do this while hunting. If I hadn’t been so picky I would have been skinning in stead of walking. I passes up several young deer as was trying to “save the seed” for later. Oh well, that’s my luck. I have started finishing up some gun and ammo preps though. Finished buying up extra mags and ordered some more ammo. I really don’t want to list what mags or ammo I’ve purchased as some may say I was “crazy”. No one in the pack of course but others. lol
    This pretty much finishes up what mags I want for my inventory. I need to order a few cleaning tools and replacement parts for some of my guns. That’s it from here and I want sent out prayers for the rest of the pack as well as our country. God Bless!

    • That’s the other thing I forgot; took an inventory of the magazines we have in stock. Found I have a large batch that is currently among the missing, but that is not surprising. It is probably hiding behind another white bucket in the small storage space. Since I’m not going to move those buckets to look for it, we took them off the inventory and will work on replacing them. If they turn up, they won’t have gone bad and the price of mags may have gone up so we can swap them out for other preps.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Dang, Dude,
      Couldn’t you have just shot off your toe or something? Sounds painful. Speedy recovery.

  37. Well, the hubby installed the trellis for the grapes we ordered and repaired two of our recliners (saves us buying new ones). I started the pumpkin purée for the pumpkin butter I’ll hopefully get to make next weekend. I’m waiting on the DH to wake up from falling asleep on the couch to purée it as I type. The hubby also tilled the potato area of the garden so now the entire 12′ x 40′ garden area has been tilled. I’ve almost decided to plant potatoes on the other side of the yard in an area where we tilled some Nandina.

    Other than that, not much beyond reading and learning. Cash flow is too tight for the next week and a half or so. Cash flow should increase in January as we will be paying off a couple of bills so I’ll be able to add to the stores again by then. In the meantime, I’m figuring up how much of different things I’ll need for a year and what it will cost – like canned cat food I need for a year – 16 cases @ $21.98 per case (ouch!).

  38. Found out the food poisoning last week was just a nasty gastro virus going around. Hit me really hard though, went thru 4 rolls of tp in one day!!!

    Got 20 pounds of black eyed peas and red beans for .50 cents a pound so have those in the freezer and will put in mylar with o2 asorbers along with some 30 lbs of rice and white beans already had later this week.

    I decided to take the month of Dec off from prepping and just enjoy life, family and other things. Just in case the world does end on the 21’st I want to have some fun , and if it does don’t have the money to really get ready any better than I am already. Although I will keep an eye out for any super great deals than can be used for prepping.

    Got the christmas light out and put up and am enjoying them and the neighbors also, live in a neighborhood of Clark Griswalds who have to outdo each other every year. Worked in retail for
    20 years with NO time off for holidays till mid jan and have enjoyed the last 5 years of having off and being able to enjoy the holidays.

    So prep if you want to but don’t forget to actually enjoy this time of year.

    • School House says:


      I know about the retail crap. Spent 38 years building the stores you worked in. Not fun for anyone…


      School House…

    • I also worked retail sales for years. It is so wonderful to be able to enjoy the holiday this year, isn’t it?
      Even if you cannot Prep during December, you can use this time to really firm up your relationships with your friends, neighbors, and family. To me that is really the most important thing of all. And a side benefit is that when the time comes, that is your Pack.

  39. Rob in Ontario says:

    been a strange week- first off had a reaction face swelt way up no idea why – and then a severe ear infection– also been watching lots of utubes on Obama and such – scarey stuff- just picked up some cans of soup – mushrooms- veggies- picked up a noval called “the Eleventh Plague” haven’t cracked it yet will keep you posted — was thinking this year everyone is only going to get things they can use like candles- books – etc- Merry Christmas everyone

    • village idiot says:

      Rob, I stock a lot of benedryl for those kinds of reactions, which can be fatal if there is no emergency medical care. And you and I have come to the same conclusion, my sons are getting Katadyn water filters, tactical flashlights, ammo, optics, and solar radios for Christmas. And Merry Christmas to you and all our Canadian friends. I miss farmgal, Lake Lili and some others I can’t recall their names right now. Sucks to get old. Long live Canada!

  40. recoveringidiot says:

    Long week at work with way too much windshield time. Did buy some rimfire ammo, enough that I used a cart to haul it on, and some more magazines for my favorite .22 autoloader. Did a Sams’ club run yesterday for canned food and a bag of rice. So much Christmas on display its hard to find anything useful, I can’t see how folks can afford so much junk! I celebrate the birth of our lord Jesus not spending on plastic junk mostly from china.

    Nice carpentry work MD, How did you tie the metal to the front of the house? My nephew asked me last week how to go about doing that very job and I had no good answer, his mobile home has a metal roof with only a very small drip edge.

  41. MENTALMATT says:

    Not alot in preps this week, christimas shopping for the kids and all. I’m still watching the silver prices as I would like to buy some more on the next dip. The economy is a bit terrifing, what is next. Oh and on the home front here in the “D”, well just watch we are gonna be the first major city to go bankrupt. Got to love those democrats………

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Didn’t you get the latest memo? The economy is recovering!

    • worrisome says:

      Mental Matt, every time I see a new article about the Detroit economy I think about you and wonder if you are doing ok. I can’t imagine the stress you must be under. Prayers!

    • riverrider says:

      stay safe brother….and i think silver will dip after christmas.good luck.

    • village idiot says:

      Never heard you mention your family before, and didn’t know you had children. Tell them Merry Christmas for me, and you watch your six. I had no idea Detroit was that close to bankrupcy, sure hope it doesn’t affect you too much worse than it already has. Take care.

  42. Mostly cleaning up for winter and the garden rebuild. Honevillygrain.com has a sale so I bought what I needed to finish my Mylar bagged meals. My wife and I met with the central Texas preppers and taught a class on water bath and pressure canning. Most didnt know anything about canning so it was a good class.

  43. Tactical G-Ma says:

    Hello Pack,
    Hope all are well and happy.
    M.D., your property is really taking shape. Great job on the front porch. Congratulations on all the progress.
    I know many of us are ill or somehow challenged. Please know you are in my thoughts and prayers.
    Cousin Joey has been transferred from Portsmouth to his duty station. He is doing great. Thank you so much for the prayers.
    My DH is also much, much better from his bout with E.Coli. Monday he will be retested for infection. Nasty stuff.
    As for preps, we picked up a butterball turkey and a smithfield ham for ½ price. I got a prescription for silverdine. The med kit is coming along nicely.
    I also bought 3 pick flank steaks marked down for quick clearance and turned them into garlic and pepper jerky.
    I made batches of apple pie moonshine, kaluha, and ameretto. I wound up making 4X the amount of vanilla syrup I needed. Hope I can turn some of it into chocolate syrup.
    I still have tons of stuff to do but just have that southern attitude “why do today what can wait til tomorrow!” HaHa!
    I mentioned earlier in the week that I watched a gory and pretty bad movie called “The Day”. I always take a little something away after I watch or read these post apocalyptic stories. I try to imagine being in those scenarios and imagine how I would want to act. If I imagine marauders or scavengers instead of zombies or cannibals, it works for me.
    I also finished the book “Plague of Terror”. Terrorists smuggle smallpox into NYC and LA and plan to release it on Americans. Why can’t we just all get along? Guess that’s a bit cliche.
    Glad to see so many long time cubs and new cubs participating in the blog. All the different knowledge and experience really makes for interesting exchange.
    I want to know if/where Strike-Anywhere matches can be purchased.
    Also, i ask for prayers for DH and me. We have hit on a bit of hardtimes. He can’t work and my disabilities limit what I can do. The Lord has always provided but a few extra prayers can’t hurt.
    God bless, keep praying, let the spirit of Christmas, the comfort and joy, fill your hearts with peace (and you don’t have to be Christian to feel it).

    • worrisome says:

      Tactical G Ma, try your local Ace Hardware for the strike anywhere matches. If your local store doesn’t normally carry them, ask if they can order them for you, or go check the Ace Hardware website, if they have them there they can ship them to your local store with no delivery charges.

      Prayers for whatever hard time issues you are having, God is holding you in his hand, however you may have to reach out to local resources for some day to day help, don’t overlook it and don’t be too proud to take help from those around you.

    • You just reminded me to pray for you and the rest of the pack having hard times due to financial or health concerns. Consider yourselves all prayed for. Remember, it is your faith that makes you whole (yup, Jesus said that, along with a host of other really smart people).

    • Tactical G-Ma –
      Around here you can find strike-anywhere matches at grocery and hardware stores, but I’ve heard some localities no longer stock them (rumors that the components could be used in making drugs or bombs).
      As of now, at least, you can still get them from Amazon, although they are Diamond’s “green light” brand instead of the traditional type. I wonder if the “green lights” came out to diffuse the fears?

    • Hunker-Down says:

      Tactical G-Ma,

      A few extra prayers are on the way. The peace of the Lord be with you.

    • BlueCaribDreams says:

      I am so glad to hear that Joey is improving! I remember walking in his boot/boots during my recovery. We will continue to pray for him


      • Hey Blue, How’s “S” doing?

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Thanks so much. And how is the new baby doing?

        • BlueCaribDreams says:

          Michele & G-Ma,

          Thank you so much for asking! Little “S” is doing great! Her original due date is almost here (4th) and she is around the correct size for a full term baby… 6lb 6oz. Everyone’s prayers helped us a lot. On a side note, 6yo “B” is doing great at being a big sister!


    • Tactical G-Ma:

      I have been getting my strike-anywhere matches at Murdock’s, which is a ranch supply store. They keep them up front and I grab a package each time it go in there, about once a month.

    • More prayers for you, G-ma.

      • We just purchased Stick anywhere matches at our local Army/Navy Store this weekend. They had good stock. And thanks for your Welcome. I guess I am one of those “Cubs” of which you speak. I lurked so long, it felt natural to finally start posting along with the Pack.

  44. I picked up five 333-count boxes of Winchester .22 hollow points on sale at Walmart for $12.97. My dh ordered me ghost sites for my Glock for Christmas. I can’t wait to go shoot. My eyes are not what they used to be. And I think the ghost sites will help me see the target better.

    I have declared my food storage finished. Now it’s just a matter of restocking what we use. I will pick up a few things here and there if they are on sale. But I am done.

    • worrisome says:

      Bam Bam I am close as well. Every time I “think” I have the food side of things figured out however, I get tested by an influx of family and find out that I am missing “enuf” of something. Getting close tho and beginning to think about others in the neighborhood as well a bit. We have one old couple, nice folks that are naturally thrifty. She does canning so we have that in common, he still cuts his own wood and they heat their house for the most part with wood. But the chores are getting harder and harder for them to do. Over Thanksgiving week end, the men folks in my family went over and cut up kindling, cleaned up the leaves, did a last for the winter mowing, did a couple of small plumbing jobs. We invited them over for Thanksgiving Dinner because their son and family are presently stationed in your neck of the woods and couldn’t afford to make the trip home. My teen age grandson washed their two little dogs for them and I sent them home with left overs that will take the burden off for a few days. I have decided that from now on when I head to town for grocery shopping I am going to call and ask what I can pick up for them, maybe begin to get a handle on what they consider staples to their lives and maybe begin to get some “extras” in the house. Sweet folks, in their 80’s and watch enough television to be really worried about what is in front of them…adds to their load in ways I hate to watch. So for the year 2013, they are going to be my project :_).

      • worrisome –
        I’m so glad to read of your kindness towards your neighbors. For a lot of folks, it doesn’t take much to make a big improvement in their lives. I wish everyone was as thoughtful as you.

        • Tactical G-Ma says:


        • K.fields, just think, if every one of the wolfpack reached out to just one other person with a little help along the way when they see the need and know they can, how much better would our lives be and the how much better for the recipient. Yes we owe our families the best we can when times get tough…but it doesn’t hurt to reach out a hand now and again. When the love of my life died, these two people were the first at my house, it is good to find ways to return the favor……their spyness is beginning to disappear, it is time.

          • Worrisome,

            You are answering their prayers. Our church encourages us to actively find ways to help others. We serve God when we serve our neighbors.

            Having said that, I told someone at church yesterday I am so upset about the election that I am currently only helping people who voted Republican (lots of them are in need too). I need to forgive the others and let go – but it is hard and I am not there yet.

            Bless you for helping your neighbors!

  45. Slow prep week for us, a good one for our adult kids. We shopped, purchase and assembled all of the necessary items for 5 comprehensive 72 hour get home bags. One for each young un. I took the time to write a nice letter explaining why they were getting this for Christmas, and outlining how their Father and I hope that this will stimulate each of them to assess their own homes and lives and commit to a comfortable level of preparedness, whatever that meant for each of them.

    Each bag also contained a list of ways to get/make more clean water when their HO2 tablets run out, and how to make fire 5 different ways. I also included a list of what they might add to personalize each bag. EPI pens for the allergic kiddos, and maps of their locals, prescription glasses, etc. I hope it goes over well, since we spent a considerable amount more time and money on those than in recent years. They are done, and now all we need to do is ship them off.

    A side benefit is that in assembling them, DH and I added a few little items to each of our bags too, and trained youngest daughter how to use her flint/magnesium stick.

    For our preps, more food dehydrated, and a new piece of varmit hardware. More beans. Scoped out a new book, and DH ordered some kindles for Christmas gifts/and our prepping backups.

    Moved some things around. Studied a bunch. With Christmas coming, a good portion of our disposable income is going there. But i can see how our priorities have shifted this year. Much more prep oriented purchases. Even for gifts.

    I am still working on a deal for a home in a smaller farming community nearby.

  46. Jim in SoCal says:

    Been a while since I potsed. Let’s see. this week I was able to add to my fuel storage (gasoline and propane), picked up some more rope, and put back another 20 cans of food. Inventoried and rearranged my canning supplies to see where I might need to stock up. Built a new small raised planter and cleared some more land.

    Added to my water storage/purification needs, and picked up two free 3.5″ fire hoses with connectors and a nozzle. Re-packed all of the BOBs for winter, added more batteries and two new lanterns, and two more GMRS radios. Lastly, I went through the ammo storage, re-packed and inventoried it all. Added another 1500 rds of .22LR.

    Thats it!

  47. question for the pack,,,I have never had a gaurd dog,,,I have had Labs, terriers,,,but I was thinking about either a Pit or a Boxer,,,suggestions? Pros vs Cons..

    • I should have added that space is not a concern.

    • riverrider says:

      lee, boxer! loyal, lovable, mean looking without the mean, and WILL defend you, especially kids brought up with it.. watch your knees though, they like to walk up beside you and lean on your leg for attention. it can drop you if you’re not paying attention 🙂

      • worrisome says:

        In my neighborhood we have two German Shepherds that are being properly trained and my GS + something. Candidly, it is in the training. I can hardly believe what consistent training with someone that really knows what they are doing to make a dog be the best it can be.

        • School House says:

          Lee Tx.
          Take a good look at your entire lifestyle,and get what fits. You really didn’t explain what you have. One thing I did notice is no concerns on space issues.

          With that in mind the only type of dog I would even consider is a livestock protection dog.

          Do some research on them you will be really surprised with them. You don’t even need live stock. They are fantastic dogs.

          School House

      • thank all,,I was already leaning toward Boxers.

        • Boxers are great dogs, cancer prone though.Pits are also great dogs they generally love kids and they are your friend for life . our pit mix even likes our friends kids.Only downside is weather. They have thin coats and do not do well in cold areas.You can`t go wrong with a good pit or boxer. Just make sure to get them socoalized with other dogs and people.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Whatever breed you decide on, please don’t let it run “free”, as in “go where you want, when you want”. I don’t know you, so, I don’t know that you would; I’m simply saying, “PLEASE DON’T”. As a rescuer, I can tell you there is a problem with these animals running free: bad people will entice them, take them, and use them for very bad things…like dog fights or breeding puppies for dog fights. This is why one should NEVER give puppies away free on Craig’s list, in the Wal-Mart parking lot, etc. KNOW to whom you are giving them in some way. Assess the person carefully, and if it doesn’t look or feel right, just say “NO!”. You don’t have to give a reason.

      PLEASE make sure your furbaby is spade or neutered, and PLEASE don’t let them run free so that someone could take the family member.

      The breeds you mention are very loyal to their pack; any one of them would make a great “guard” dog. In MS, there DOES seem to be a preference for Boxers for a lot of people, and they are more likely to be stolen. Pit bulls are not necessarily aggressive; it depends on how they are treated, as much as anything, just like any other living creature. I have one next door that will cowtow to my rescue lab mixes! She’s just a little sweetiepie (but she does scare people, simply because of her breed!). But, then, one of my rescue lab mixes did attack a much bigger dog when it attacked the other rescue lab mix, and got the better of the much bigger dog.

      You will need to be prepared to protect your furbaby from bad people. That’s what I’m saying.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Lee Tx,
      It’s not on your list but a bull mastive is a wonderful and protective dog. It eats a lot but if it doesn’t eat an intruder it will scare the bejeezes out of him.
      Another great guard dog are domestic geese.

    • OregonMike says:

      Hi Lee,
      I think what you’re looking for might be a protection dog vs an alarm, guard or sentry dog. They all have different requirements. A small dog makes an excellent alarm dog to alert you of strangers but won’t necessarily take a stranger down. A trained guard dog does not discriminate between a stranger’s intent. I LOVE my English Mastiff but at 230 lbs might not suit everyone. A Bullmastiff is a cross between a bulldog and Mastiff so is smaller and fearless. A boxer is so friendly, it may require protection training but IS popular. This is from another source: ” As a family protection dog, Boxer ranks high. This is a breed that possesses an extraordinary ability of discriminating when it comes to reading the character of people.”. Guard dogs are what the police use with Shepards and Belgian Malinois high on the list. Short hair is easier to take care of where longer coats may be warmer in a cold climate. A boxer is also part Mastiff (as are many large breeds) so do some reading and visit as many breeders as you can. Also, check the internet to decide what catagory (alarm, sentry, guard etc.) fits the bill closest to what you’re looking for.

    • Warmongerel says:

      My sister had a pitbull-boxer mix. The thing looked like a 3-foot tall pitbull. It was a gentle, loveable hound, but VERY intimidating to those who didn’t know it.

      Find one of those and train it and you’ll have some extreme protection.

    • Lee Tx I will try to post a link to a picture of my mutts, the breed was the vision of a friend of mine. He passed before they could get started. Let’s just say mom is Pitt/rottie and Dad is Dane/mastiff. The baby is 60 lbs at 8 months. http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa392/AZyogi/IMG_20121206_100725.jpg

  48. Flower Child says:

    Hi all. I’ve been a long time stalker, never posting before today. I really enjoy reading everyone’s comments. Been lurking since the pack was at the high 8k. I’ve always couponed (love those bargains) & borderline hoard, but as long as I stay hyper-organized & have a big enough space, it isn’t a hoard.

    Went to the Denver Tanner gun show Sat. Never seen it as packed. Favorite (cheapest) ammo guy sold out within a couple hours of almost everything. There is a feverish quality to what & how much people are buying. One guy had a dolly loaded down with at least 2500 rounds. Next show is Dec. 29-30. Did get DH a couple more clips for a CC, a fancy rail, sling & case for my new addition & this neat gut-busting belly holster for DH’s CC. He says it makes him look young & svelte…

    I signed up for a Sam’s Club personal membership so I could purchase a special lasting through today. I would have placed an order through EE, but so many things are on backorder. I like immediate gratification instead of patiently waiting…

    The Walmart in our town is one of only 2 in the state that apparently sells rifles & the Wed. after the election, they sold 19 ARs in about 6 hours. Amazing. They had only 3 left in stock that Thurs.

    On a side note, there is an interesting article/letter posted on another blog from an “Emergency Management” specialist saying doomsday preppers are selfish. The letter was pulled, but you can still find it on google. Mind blowing considering Sandy’s aftermath.

    Have a great week. MD, what you do is a great thing. Many thanks.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      remember…, sheep are easy to herd.as in “a lamb to the slaughter”.
      Read how those small businesses that are struggling to re-open are doing it..neighbor helping neighbor for the most part…and remember from the viewpoint of the powerful…they are rich…so the help does not come…but is promised.
      I read in a paper re: thanksgiving, If you have some change in a tray ,you are richer than 8% of the world’s population…there was more to the article, but it ended with, If you can read this article you are more blessed than Many Million persons who can read nothing.
      Now, consider that the goal of some “ones”.. is to make all peoples to have equality in their manner of life…and we know that the poorest of us,are rich by third world countries… So answer yourself…where that leaves us..plan for lack of communication.

    • Welcome Flower Child!

  49. village idiot says:

    “Ma” Pelosi said to give TDL full dictatiorial powers? Wants him to have the power to raise the debt ceiling at his will, and to spend money without the approval of Congress. The Republic is gone the day that happens, although TDL has basically done these things without approval already. That Amercians would sit still and allow this is sickening.

    In better news, I made a new ally this week and I feel really good about it. A person I knew already, but we now know we are on exactly the same page. It’s comforting to say the least. I am also heading to the Ozarks next weekend to look at some land.

    I added two buckets of .22s on sale at NatchezShooters, pasta, pasta sauce, 2 G mags, some medical diagnosis books, and 2 bottles of bourbon. That’s it, so have a good week.

    • riverrider says:

      vi, congrats on the friend. i found out that i was mistaken on my new nieghbors. all the shooting was coming from the sil of a guy in our mutual assistance group and his bud. they hiked in to the valley and let off 1500 rounds and camped out. pretty cool, need to do it myself to remember why i don’t anymore:) good luck on the property. my sis might be moving out springfield way soon…. don’t give up hope. i’ve been networking around the web and can tell you there are a very many that can and will step up to the plate given the right “stimulus”, pun intended. i look at everything tdl and cryptkeeper do as one more nail in their coffins now. they won’t stop til it all collapses but they will be totally surprised when it does, and what comes after. sic semper tyrannis my friend.

      • village idiot says:

        I’m glad the folks ended up being potential allies rather than adversaries, river. My mind is swirling with thoughts of the things I really need to do this year to prepare for what is obviously coming. Something very evil IMHO. If you’ve never read anything, I urge you to read two books which will open your eyes. “Jihad in the West”, by Paul Fregosi; and any good book on the history of the French Revolution. Our two fates will be based on one of these two scenarios, my best guess being The French Revolution and its evil. One can’t comprehend it without studying it closely, the parallels are oddly similar to what is happening today in the US.

  50. Warmongerel says:

    Nothing too unusual this week.

    Stocked up more long-term food. With rationing, my daughter and I could live for at least 6 months on what we now have.

    In addition to the food, picked up a bunch of Bic lighters. I have a large coffee can full of them now. I figure that I have enough to last for many years, now. Added to the magnesium fire starters, I should never be without fire. Maybe it’s because I’m from Minnesota, but that seems to be my number one fear.

    I know that water is supposed to be my number 1 priority, but we have a foot of frozen water sitting on our lawns for 6 months out of the year, and I can walk to the Mississippi river in 15 minutes. With filters and fire, I figure we’ll be fine.

    Made a batch of pickles, but we ate them already. Can’t seem to keep them in stock. Making beef jerky as we speak.

    Thinking of re-modeling part of my basement, insulating the interior walls, making “safe” (aka bullet-proof) areas and making it liveable apart from the rest of the house if necessary. I’m going to disguise it as my daughter’s bedroom, so I may spend the EOTWAWKI surrounded by Justin Bieber posters.

    Question for the Pack: Harbor Freight sent me a coupon for a 3200/4000W Predator generator. The coupon is for $170, which brings the price down to $279. I can almost afford that. Anyone know anything about these generators? I’m sure they’re not great, but might get me through the first days of SHTF.

    Nice job on the porch, M.D. As a former “wood butcher” (carpenter) turned into cabinetmaker (turned into mechanical ape), it looks good to me.

    • Warmongerel,

      Thank you – I’m just happy that it doesn’t fall down when walked on…

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Do some research before you buy it; we looked at those, too, and went with a Champion from Tractor Supply, instead. We also ended up adding the wheel kit made for the gen; it’s too heavy to be dragging around much, and we needed to drag ours around a bit. Folks at Tractor Supply are very good at answering questions on gen (they’ll get you to someone who knows). The units at Harbor have a reputation for breaking down, my DH claims (he did all the homework on this), and the parts are supposedly hard to get. I don’t know – but that’s the DH’s input, and he just went through all of this; he tends to be VERY THOROUGH in research.

      • village idiot says:

        How my Homey doing? I’m going to be in your neck of the woods this weekend. Will be looking at that land Friday on the way to Bella Vista. Also got a lead on some land up near Jasper, so will have to make a trip to that area pretty soon as well. Probably the first of next year, maybe Jan. or Feb. Have a great day, and God Bless.

    • Warmongerel. You get what you pay for in generators. It really depends upon what your plans are to use it. At some point in a long shtf situation, you will run out of fuel. If you plan on it for just something for a couple of days at a time, you will probably be ok. In my case, I want enough fuel and a good generator to keep my freezer going so I can get the stuff out of it and canned up, or dehydrated so that I can add it to my future food stores, but I still bought a good one and buried a big propane tank so that it would last awhile for pumping the well water & heating the hot water tank the easy way, etc. Candidly, imo propane generator and propane storage is the best way to go……….propane does not go bad like gas, diesel and biodiesel do.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Whoever had the gas to LP conversion for generators website, please repost the address.

      • worrisome,
        Why bury the propane tank? I’ve seen buried containers rot away a lot faster than an above ground tank that is kept clean and painted. Mine are above ground as are many of the neighbors and most are a decade older or more.

        • Ohio Prepper, I have one big fault! I am a neat FREAk, I hated the way the dang thing looked on my property.

      • Warmongerel says:


        I don’t plan on using it for long-term use, Mostly for short term emergencies (blizzards, tornadoes) if the power goes out.

        And in a SHTF situation, I’d just like something that would get me by for a short while so that I can get settled in – charge batteries, run the freezers for a few days, power tools, etc. If it runs for a week, I should be good. Anything beyond that is just a bonus.

        I’m thinking that it will work just fine for those situations. And, since it’s all I can afford, it might just have to do.

        As far as propane, does anyone know if propane units can be run on the natural gas that comes to houses in the more “urban” areas?

        Hooking a connector into my home’s natural gas line would be a snap (I’m a trained professional. Don’t try this at home). And, in a shtf scenario, there will be millions of cubic feet of gas just sitting in those lines because the vast majority of people won’t be using it.

        • You may really be on to something with that idea! Perhaps you can research and it could be an article on MD’s site since he needs more articles anyway?

        • War,

          I don’t know if this answers your question, but the guy across the street did something smart when he had his house built–he had the gas line extend to his back porch so he could run his propane grill off the gas line. That is just so smart because when we had the hurricanes a few years ago we lost electricity for days at a time but we still had gas.

        • Tactical G-Ma says:

          The water column or pressure of LP and Natural Gas are different. Cook ranges require different aperture nozzles at the entry point of the gas into the appliance. Most equipment would need a kit to change between LP and NG. LP has lower BTUs than NG as well. Just contact the manufacturer for instruction and if a kit is needed, it is usually cheap and easy to install. Whenever using NG always use hard pipe feed pipes and connectors, never hose, and block or nail down the equipment so that it will not move.

          • Sw't Tater says:

            the hole in the fitting for natural gas is larger-it’s under much less pressure than LP…our house is on natural gas, we are blessed or cursed to be VERY near a line…some campers are marketed with appliances that can be converted from one to another,by the homeowner, and have complete instructions with them… the refrig. in our camper is..
            Does anyone know what is used to pump this gas thru the lines, and how dependable it would be in a regional power outage? it is my guess that it would be available for short time= less than 3 weeks, unless it was an earthquake…then supply could be interrupted with potential for fire everywhere a fracture in line occurred. Our lines have been down more than 20 yr, ..I have been concerned re: age of lines, flexibility of aging lines in earthquake of substantial magnitude since I am in the area that has potential for madrid fault impact..live on a hill, with several small lakes in short radius.the cattle of neighbors and deer might be swimming to me!

            • Sw’t Tater,
              I think that in many places the natural gas is pressurized by pumps that run on natural gas. Especially in long pipe runs through barren areas, running an energy source like electricity is expensive, especially when you have an energy source right at the pump location.

        • Warmongerel,
          It depends on the generator. Propane and NG have different BTU ratings and run at slightly different pressures, but if the generator has a carburetor, then it may be a simple fuel air mixture adjustment.

  51. M.D. love the handiwork I’ll bet you’re glad to be done with winter coming on. I bought several items this week from a deceased prepper’s wife. She didn’t share his zeal for being prepared and is trying to get rid of all of his outdoor type items and priced them at bargain basement prices. Secured a brand new camp chef portable propane oven with built in burners still in the box for a great price! Also got a Coleman powerhouse lantern with reflector, an extra globe and hard case for a good price. She had many other items but she stored much of his stuff outdoors where it got rained on and exposed to the elements. I didn’t buy any of the trioxane tablets or cases of sterno since they have been stored outdoors for over 3 years and I didn’t trust them. Also obtained an almost new all american pressure canner for 1/3 the cost of a brand new one at a local surplus store which was still in the box. We were also fortunate to put away one deer into the freezer for winter. We don’t eat beef at all due to hormones, antibiotics and who knows what else they feed those poor critters and haven’t for 15 years now. I will do some more deer hunting later this month. M.D. did you have any success deer hunting this season?

  52. Hi everyone. Spent the last few weeks teaching canning to small groups in two states. It amazes me how many thirty and fourty somethings are starting to get busy putting food by. Have just received a call to go to New Mexico to teach a Prepper group. Wish I could be in everyones kitchen showing them how. Thank you all for getting me back out there helping others.

    • HomeINsteader says:

      Bless you! We, too, teach. Isn’t it wonderful to see people picking up the torch and running with it?!

  53. Sw't Tater says:

    I am so glad that Faith continues to heal and is able to be up and about.
    It appears that you passed on your carpentry exam! It is such a blessing, to have a roof and location without a debt..Congratulations on your long term achievements!….We know that it represents much sacrifice on your part, because what we have, we did the same. Some people will claim that there is a free lunch, but those who come here know that they are the ones sacrificing to pay for the lunches of those who believe they are free.

    ….We are in austerity mode, as someone else put it.
    ….I did add a couple small jars of sunflower kernels for the snack stash, and a small bottle of oil of Oregano., and replaced what we used over past month. … Filled some 2 liter bottles with water…Spent about 25$ total.( Someone else will have to make up our part of the 750$ that the budget guru’s say each person will spend on Christmas.) Most of our Christmas gifts will be handmade and or re-purposed from existing items….examples, DD has a air mattress type bed, I will take fitted sheets Already have) and add straps for secure set..for gift… SIL will get clothing, Purchased from a thrift somewhere this past year.approximate cost 5$ each, items bought in July and August.Mom will get useful crocheted item.
    Everyone just has to get used to it..we did the same last year.
    ….. Did a few winterizing chores to a water line, and began moving and preparing to tighten up the underpinning for winter that is coming .
    side note.. It was real pretty here today, High about 72, with a low (of a usual high) of 54 expected , but it will change soon.
    …Raked some more leaves,picked a few more winter herbs.
    …a little more research on native plants and their uses, and posted into an e-mail for future reference,
    …. began gathering scrap together to separate for later re-purpose projects or recycling
    ….made list of priorities for coming month, for chores, and other loose ends that must be taken care of….and began working on projects from that list…
    .. Went to cardiology appointment /pacer check with Mom, pacemaker is getting close to end of life,but heart rate is now present without it.She will need pacer replacement within 6 months, and they will not do it before the battery voltage gets to a certain number. .
    .. Health issues here as well, but at least no worse for the present.I have researched and set order for several products to attempt to address several issues, from anemia and bloat to he “willies”.I need back-ups for my back-ups,…since responses vary.
    Prayers continue for each member of the wolf-pack…I may not know names or needs but the Heavenly Father does..He knows how many hair each of us has, and each soul is important to Him..(Not said to offend the unbelievers,but one day all will believe. I pray that many will become believers before eternity and no time for repentance,)..our nation, the people, the leaders… as many continue to seek God, that they will find the truth that God promises…and that His will for us individually and as a nation be accomplished..Whatever that is. I know it will be righteous and Just.
    … I have been working on some education goals that I have set.
    …strengthening ties to those of like precious faith..my family and extended family.. I didn’t spend much money, but I didn’t think i’d accomplished anything until I started listing ..
    Thanks again MD!

  54. My Preps for week, I organised my bartier items in a plastic tote, ordered some mylar bags, got a case of MRE’s.

  55. HomeINsteader says:

    Well done, Sw’t Tater – you are such a blessing to me, thank you!

    • Sw't Tater says:

      In what re:.a blessing?
      …..however I can help, I am glad for my small part.It’s not necessary to have a lot to spend, to accomplish a few things each week. I have so much that needs doing it is often hard to relate it to preparedness directly…I have found if it gives you any amount of readiness in any area, it truly relates.
      This site has helped, and I have learned from many who posted in the past and those who continue to do so.Thanks PACK and PACK LEADER!

  56. Had a nuke stress test and artery dopler test for blockage this week. Some blockage but nothing they want to mess wirh yet. My heart muscles have improved (strangthend) almost back to normal.
    Decided on the S&W M&P 15-22 Semi Auto.
    Cashed in an old IRA, I’m Old enough to where there is no penalty and taxes will most likely be higher next year. We want to get a single axel utility trailor abd get some stuff out of storage. Save some money. If we need to bug out we can throw all that stuff out and pack in the important stuff. We also plan on paying off some debt and picking up that S&W I mentioned before.
    Replaced some canned items we have used the last few weeks.
    Be careful out there.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      Ron, Do research on R-ALA, Co Q 10, in some form- Krill oil is high in supplements to enhance eyesight…, and garlic.
      My Mom uses cod liver caps, vit E, ALA, and garlic to address her thick blood and balance her fats properly.It makes it easier for her heart to beat.and her heart function has improved since she began it a year and a half ago….then she had maybe 5 self initiated heart beats a min, now it is up to 58….The doctors had tried to do her in with warfarin. When she had a gastric bleed , they still did not want to take her off it.

      • I’ve been taking CoQ10 for a couple of years now. Don’t know if it works but I am sure it hasnt hurt and the doctors never questioned it.

  57. Good bit of wind and rain here this week, so mostly spent time in the greenhouse getting some plants started for the winter gardens. Had one of the hoop houses damaged by the winds so I worked on getting that repaired today. Nothing really exciting to speak of.

    I do have a question though. Due to some weight loss, my IWB holster isn’t as comfortable as it once was so I’m thinking of going to a shoulder holster. Any suggestions? I carry a full size 1911.

    • OregonMike says:

      You can also carry in a belly band. I have the regular type but also one with shoulder straps. Usually carry higher than the belly and it supports the weight of the Para really well. I wear it over a T-shirt and add an outer shirt usually buttoning or snapping the bottom two.
      If the band is black and gets exposed, it looks like a back lifting support. It’s my favorite cold weather carry mode. With weight loss, you can also wear a belly band inside your waist band.

      • OregonMike –
        Thanks for the suggestion, but I’ve tried one of those before (a friend really loves his and insisted I give it a go) but I’m afraid it made me look slightly pregnant even when worn inside my waist band. One of the problems with being tall and thin.
        I could get away with my IWB holster because the weather here makes wearing a light jacket reasonable, but buttoning that jacket to hide the front bulge looks suspicious and gets uncomfortable.

  58. Classic Arms has $249 Chinese SKS with milled receivers and chrome lined barrels. For that price you can outfit your fire team. I find these more accurate than the AK and just as up to punishing conditions. With 10 round fixed mags I think these are even legal in occupied Californika. Oh and it looks like Classic Arms finally got their act together.

    • village idiot says:

      Mexneck, do you have any experience with these SKSs? I’ve stayed away from the Chinese stuff for several years, but those are good prices.

      • VI,
        I own or have owned several of the Chinese model. I’ve never had a problem with them. I only feed them through tapco mags or the Korean drums. I find them more accurate than AK’s. This will be my first order from Classic Arms for this batch of SKS. Excited to see what I get. I don’t care about the stocks or the finish since I usually upgrade the finish and replace or refurbish the stocks.

        • village idiot says:

          Why don’t you do a post about replacing and refurbishing the stocks on an SKS? I know I would find it very interesting and useful.

          • Thanks VI,
            I’ve been thinking about taking the YouTube plunge and making some vids. I need to learn to write because there’s one subject that I’ve been itching to tackle for a while.

            • HomeINsteader says:

              Let us know, Mexneck! Can’t wait!

            • Warmongerel says:

              Go for it, Mex. My SKS looks like it’s gone through a war. And it probably has. A guy at work wants to sell me a synthetic stock for it, but I’m kind of leery of taking it apart.

  59. Goatlover says:

    My big accomplishment was buying 100# of calcium hypocholorite (pool shock) for water treatment when SHTF. We have, or have access to, 4 Artesian wells (can anyone say POWER-FREE water source????) but needed a way to purify it in large quantities. Now to figure out my treatment system and holding tanks….

    Canned turkey stew, and lots of green beans from the garden. Met another local family of the same mindset. They’re buying one of my baby goats to provide stud service next year for their ladies…..I’ve found several preparedness folks through my goats.

    Bought more hens. Spouse’s chicken-killing dog escaped and murdered most of my laying flock. It almost became an object of target practice, but spouse relocated the animal to a shelter instead……

    Ain’t no room on a farm for a chicken-killin’ dawg….!

    • Hunker-Down says:


      Keep that calcium hypochlorite away from food stocks. It is potent and can reach out and spoil things near it.

      • I'm A Prep Kat says:

        What is the best way to store it. I’ve got some still in the bag it came in stored in canning jars with plastic screw top lids. I’ve got it in the pantry because I figured it couldn’t leach out of the glass jar, but should I store it in a different place?

        • Hunker-Down says:


          I like your setup, I just flopped ours in the original plastic bags on a shelf in the garage. One of the sites I read when researching how to purify drinking water said to keep it away from metals and that plastic storage was OK. Not so, according to the above, considering the fire hazard (currently in my garage).
          My UNEDUCATED guess is that your glass jars with a non-metallic top will keep it dry such that it will not decompose into oxygen and chlorine.
          I’m going to order some plastic canning jar lids and store the stuff in the original plastic bags, within glass jars, within a 5 gallon plastic bucket, stored outside.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      Test the water first…if it is artesian it is under pressure and may be coming from an aquifer..what a great resource. Keep papers from where you get it tested…and do not give location of wells, to testing company…label them source 1-2-3 or ABC etc.

    • Goatlover,
      Do you need to treat the artesian well water. We use well water (not artesian) and the only thing we treat for is some iron & calcium, although the raw well water is potable. Have you had the well water tested for bacteria by your local health department? It may be fine as is.

      • Sw't Tater says:

        don’t test thru health dept…all their results come back to add flouride…aka poison…to it. get independent test we use water without treatment, have for 54 years..ours came within 100 ft of surface from almost 400 ft depth…

        • Sw’t Tater,
          I don’t know where you live, but I live in a rural area, and all the health department did for me was check for possibble toxic chemicals (potential farm runoff) and harmful bacteria. Never a mention of chlorine or flourine. My raw water is fine and potable.

          • Sw't Tater says:

            rural also.our water was fine too,…just don’t trust single test-thru one “vendor” I prefer independent one,….but biggest problem is getting it out of 365 ft well…2″ pipe doesn’t get it. have alternative, but not easy way. trying to rig strong enuf power for existing pump.

  60. Prepping Preacher says:

    this was a light week again as i have been under the weather.. we were able to secure 3 doz more canning jars – 2 cs qts, 1 cs pts; we received the cheese wax we ordered… we both spent time researching different topics and reading… an otherwise uneventful week…

  61. HomeINsteader says:

    PP: uneventful is good! Enjoy it while you can.

    Sorry you’ve been under the weather..hope you will soon be well!

    Blessings to you, and all that is yours,

    • Prepping Preacher says:

      thank you, HI, and the same to you and yours… one thing that is rarely, if ever, mentioned in prepping is the need to take a few moments to step back, look things over, evaluate your progress in relation to your goals and make any course adjustments that may be needed – and that includes to goals as well… sometimes, what seemed good a year ago may have to give way to a new direction or at least new approaches… preppers must be flexible but i’m preaching to the chior… lol enjoy

      • I agree. Sometimes life throws things at you that can make you really re-evaluate your prepping. My brother has a son who was recently diagnosed with diabetes and his world was nearly turned upside down. Right now, he’s just doing his best to keep a month’s supply of insulin on hand and that has been difficult to obtain, but not impossible. He’s also been researching ways to make insulin if none is available by traditional means – it can be done but it’s not easy and not consistent. He’s had to completely re-evaluate his plans and focus.

        • Sw't Tater says:

          Bitter melon has proven in some tests to re-vamp the isles of langerhans…what I read said use it 20 days, break for 10 and return to it.Author said to also use fenugreek, cinnamon,gymnea sylvestre, and three other things I can’t remember right now.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        Sounds like a good start for a post in the contests, PP!

  62. I am posting late but I will still post for this week. My usual prepardness routine is to replace what we use. But last month I planted two new apple trees and made vinegar. I finally poured the vinegar into containers for storate on Saturday!

    First time I ever made it and it was easy!

  63. Hunker-Down says:


    Thanks for the pictures, they tell us how hard (and talented) you work on your place.

    We bought a windmill from Harbor Freight (still in the box) and am very interested in learning how to add the pulleys, belt, alternator and battery
    as you described in the picture.
    Since I have a hard time operating a pair of pliers, instructions at the third grade level would be very appropriate.

    Our preps this week was to order iron-on patches from Amazon to fix the holes in the knees of the pants we use when gardening. Since I cant sew, this seems to be the only way to ‘keep my britches on’.

  64. I’m off work for the winter, so I’m using this time to work on skills and organizing my storage area. My step-son just gave me an early Christmas gift of a 5 shelf Muscle Rack, with each shelf capable of holding 1000 lbs. I plan to remove the 4-foot deep plywood shelves the ex built, and replace them with more of these racks.
    I’ve been doing some dehydrating this week, and was drooling over the expensive Excalibur online, when I hit an auction this weekend and got me an older dehydrator very similar to the Excalibur….for $35. I got it cleaned up, and it’s running great. With recent sales on fruits & veggies, this will come in handy. Plan to try my hand at making hash browns this week. Same auction also got me a very nice set of cast iron skillets.

    Also, with funds being very tight, especially with the holidays coming up…I plan to go through December without going to the grocery store. This will (hopefully) show me what I need to be buying more of, and just how sufficient my storage is for one person.

    I’ve been getting the “what do you want for Christmas?” from some family members. So I’ve made a list of things it wouldn’t hurt to have more of on hand….ammo, cases of water, water filters, coffee, etc.

    BTW…I LOVE the add-on the your safe, M.D.! Might have to add one of those to mine. I’m thinking I could put my cups of junk silver and various items in those pockets. Those shoe organizers come in handy for all sorts of things. My niece uses one to hold her cleaning products on the back of her basement door, since she has no under sink storage.

  65. SurvivorDan says:

    Prepping for my exit strategy. Gathering intel on various countries where I can keep a low profile (Happa Asian-American can blend in with locals in many third world countries) and where it is cheap enough to create a substantially better Retreat than I could here. So far – Philippines, Honduras, Belize look like potential. Checking travel options.
    Will still be a prepping maniac after I land somewhere.
    So in the meanwhile…..I got some led, aircraft-aluminum framed, handheld lights at a Home Depot sale. As well as some precision tool sets. Keeping my preps to small transportable items for trans-shipping. Did replace some rice and beans. Will keep current food stocks at 1 to 1/2 year levels until I know I am about to boogie away.

    • village idiot says:

      I will look forward to your posts seeking a new land for your adventures, Dan. Keep us informed. But if it were me, I would seek out Asia, I think. I believe that area of the world is on the upswing, but I’d stay well away from the Muslim areas like Indonesia.

    • riverrider says:

      sd, belize is having problems between the haves and have nots, philippines with muslims, honduras might be an option. there is a cia open source site online you can check whats going on in any country in the world. can’t find the link just now, but i found it thru google.good luck.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        Check out the ABC Islands off Argentina. A friend moved to Curacao and loved it. Have lost track but know one of the islands is not as good for tourism and was dirt cheap. Also, the Islands are somehow protected from a lot of bad weather. Love you are staying with the pack.

        • SurvivorDan says:

          Hopefully the Netherlands can keep the islands as others have an eye on them. Be that as it may, I am not going home to Hawaii because I have little confidence that even I could survive a calamitous Collapse on any of the islands. So, going to any little island is out of the question (I was only kidding about longing for an island of gullible Amazon women…well….sort of kidding) as limited natural resources and restricted avenues of retreat do not appeal to me. Though, I imagine that Curacao is lovely with beautiful, brown-eyed, curvaceous, gullible….

      • SurvivorDan says:

        Thanks rr. I spent a few years in Honduras and a neighboring banana republic (now once again a gloriously commie run sh*t hole) so I have some knowledge of that area albeit outdated. I have a former DOD comrade now living happily in the Philippines and trusted human intel is best. I know to stay out of the moslem areas. The problem with Honduras is that the drug cartels are trans-shipping through there now and the illicit drug industry related murder rate is sky high. Not to mention that the former (commie) prez and the right wingers are in the middle of an uneasy truce. Was a lovely peaceful place once.
        Maybe I can find a deserted island somewhere inhabited only by gullible Amazon woman……

        • SurvivorDan says:

          Oh and thank you for your input as well, VI. 🙂

        • riverrider says:

          sd, yeah i thought maybe the cartel was bleeding over into hondo. curacao is highly recommended. there is a large u.s. expat population there. you have to have “visible means of support” to get in, but i think you got that covered. just remember they’re on island time there, meaning nothing moves fast. think snail. they open the shops 10-ish, close at 1130-ish for a two hour lunch, open back up for a couple hours then close to prep for dinner which is usually a dress up affair. i’m told medical care is good but major stuff requires a trip to venuzuela. they get my vote.

          • SurvivorDan says:

            I lived in Melbourne, Australia for a year. I would call ahead to a shop to make certain they would be open when I arrived. Often enough I would arrive midday to find a sign on the door that read, “Back in a bit”. I would then proceed to search out the local bars for the shopkeeper! Aussie time!

      • riverrider –
        I think you’re referring to:
        Good source that I use all the time when traveling.

  66. No prepping this week. Death in the family & dealing with all that. Sad to say the death was probably the best thing that could have happened to this individual. He was a drug addict & running with a very bad set of people…there is a lot of dark side to this situation with drugs, overdose, stolen cars, id’s, credit cards, etc. Just a lot for DH to deal with. Makes you grateful for what you don’t have in your life. Very sad to see a young man die before his prime.

    With all that going on didn’t get to go deer hunting again. Maybe, next week things will calm down & I’ll get to get back out there.

    Blessings to the pack. Hug the ones you love & try to help the ones in need. You never know when tragedy could strike or the personal tragedy some people are going through & feel like they have no way out.

    • village idiot says:

      I hate to hear the story of that young man, kate. There are so many who fit in that same category these days. Crushed and ruined in what should be the prime of their lives. We are powerless to protect our borders, stop the dope, the pushers, every aspect of the drug culture. And our families suffer. God help us.

      • Tactical G-Ma says:

        There are people who suffer greatly in this life, some by their own hands. I pray he has found peace and that your family heals.

  67. Candy In Nebraska says:

    We had a busy week with sick Grandbabies. We still managed to dehydrate 20 lbs of onions and can 5 gallons of bbq sauce.
    Went shopping and bought the following:

    45 lbs of Top Cut Corn Beef @ $1.00 a lb
    30 lbs of Black Forest Ham @ $1.90 a lb
    15 lb Pork Roll @ $2.00 a lb
    24 bags of humas chips for Grandbabes for $2.00
    3 cases of Ludens honey cough drops @ $5.00 a case
    30 lbs of frozen diced carrots for $10.00

    I will have a lot of canning to do for the next few days.

    De-cluttered Dining room because Hubby has a Dining room Table Set coming for me along with a new stove.
    Hubby also bought a woodstove for $200.00 brand new never used still had price tag on it for $269.99 not much of a savings but it sure upset a lot of folks. No one was interested until I told them I would take it.
    Daughter is still going through boxes and getting rid of stuff she does not use. Kids bought me a 6 qt dutch oven day after I bought 1 for myself. So now I have 2. Told them I have a project for them for this spring I want a spit made not sure if correct term but it will be able to hold both ovens over a fire for me and that I will need hooks as well. Going to get it for my birthday.
    been collecting seeds from all the squash I received this fall, so I will have plenty of squash.

  68. mountain lady says:

    We also survived the winter storms. Lost power early Sunday, and got it back 2 hours ago. All went well. Just now finished reading all the posts. I did find a few “wish we hads” yesterday and last night, and will work on that in the near future.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      Glad you survived with little damage.

      And to all those dealing with storms in the NW and Sandy and other disasters: Am praying for your safety.

    • mountain lady =
      Glad you came through it OK.
      Next round is just beginning here so you’ll probably get hit later tonight again.
      Hope you have plenty of champagne and brie stocked!

      • mountain lady says:

        I do have one bottle of champagne and one round of brie. Think that should get me through the week, lol. I am trying to save it for 12/21 party, just to celebrate the dawning of the age of Aquarius and making it to the Galactic center.

  69. Hello ‘Pack,
    I hope you’re having a blessed week. Unfortunately the old homestead sprung a leak this week causing some serious damage to the ceiling. That would have been bad enough but with the help of a plumber I had to track down the leak. That meant tearing apart some walls. Not a good time. The leak turned out to be a pin hole in a very hard to access part of the line. In the interest of educating others I want to share my experience and what I learned.
    1. Know where the main water shutoff to your house is
    2. Take a look at your plumbing and try to map out as best you can how your pipes run and where wet walls are. Knowing if you have plumbing in the attic or basement is really important.
    3. Know the material and nomenclature of your plumbing fixtures and whether they are replaceable or repairable. The ‘Pack mantra of one is none and two is one applied here is important.
    4. Know when you’re out of your league with the problem and don’t be afraid to call in an expert.
    5. Send DW or DH to the pharmacy during demolition to acquire smelling salts and valerium which they will need to ingest on return and finding multiple walls and / or ceilings without sheetrock.
    6. Watch You Tube to acquire new sheet rock and carpentry skills.
    Hope that helps someone. It’s December and I’m still in shorts most of the time, hope y’all are keeping it on the sunny side too.

    • 7. Maintain your sense of humor about the situation.

      I think you succeeded there as evidenced in #5, even if it is necessary.

      • 8. Add valves.

        • Mari,
          valves on the pipes? Where?

          • Uh, no valves beyond the main? That was (and still is) a problem at our house. Helps to have a few valves, i.e. in the kitchen and bathroom so one doesn’t have to shut off the whole house to replace a sink faucet. Recommend that folks understand the difference between gate valves & ball valves.

            • Thanks Mari,
              I’m not a plumber but I play one in the house. I will look up installing said valves and hopefully not flood the house.

      • GA Red.
        Agreed. It is really part of my prepping as many “experts” say that it will be your frame of mind that will determine your survival.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      I don’t think there is a homeowner that cannot empathize with your grief. Hang in there . Just comes with the territory. We too have been having days in the 70s and nights in the 50s. It is heavenly for a change. Now that the leak is fixed why not wait til colder wx to do inside work. Just keep on doing what you’re doing.

      • Tac G-Ma,
        Lol I would love to wait but DW does not have any “wait” in her. I’m typing this as I wait for the primer on the under the sink patch to dry. Next up the ceiling. How is it that in all these projects she ends up as the supervisor pointing and enjoying a cup of tea while I’m upside down with water leaking into my face?

  70. Hey it's Dave says:

    Has anyhone found a use for all these extra canning jar rings? Wind chimes?

    • Candy In Nebraska says:

      My daughter is making a belt out of the old rings, and another daughter is helping the grandbabes make magnetic picture frames for thefridge with them as well

    • Take a wire coat hanger and open it up. Then stretch the triangular shape into a circle or an oval. Voila! Now you have a handy dandy jar ring holder. Just hang it by its original hook in your storage area and you can add and subtract rings to it when you’re canning. Easy peasy.

  71. HomeINsteader says:

    WHAT extra canning jar rings? I leave them on for storage. I know – some sites tell you to remove them; this is usually because people store canned foods in their damp basements, where they easily rust. Mine are stored in my house, where (for now, anyway) it is climate controlled. Don’t have a basement. The rings prevent damage to the caps if the jars get bumped for some reason, and they often do; a tiny bit of damage goes a long way for allowing in just enough air to cause spoilage, which may or may not be detectable before you eat it.

    If nothing else, save them where they won’t rust – all those folks who are NOT stocking up on these times for post-SHTF? They’ll be useful for bartering.

    • Tactical G-Ma says:

      I’m with you. Take good care of those rings cause you don’t need em til you need em.

  72. I hust got the notice….

    LPC Survival (The Berkey Guy), and advertiser her has announced that Berkey filters can now ship the California!

  73. Bit late to the forum this week–but there are some good free prepping books today and yesterday. Today there’s a good canning one put out by Backwoods home magazine, and a Sealing Yourself In book for newer preppers. (Also, one of the Weekend Homesteaders is on its third free day!)

    Please pop over and get some books, if you haven’t already! http://preputilityvehicle.blogspot.ca/2012/12/free-books-available-dec-4-2012.html

  74. Yesterday, totally by accident, discovered a small group of co-worker unhappy citizens / possible beginning peppers. Had a side talk with the one with the big mouth so that upper mgmnt doesn’t overhear her, which around here can be very dangerous due to “health & wellness” political correctness. Good thing. The “bloodletting” started here before 6 this morning, mostly due to the economy, probable higher taxes, and super increased cost of healthcare/dental/eye. Not surprised.

    Oh, and the scary panels of medical deciders that the left says doesn’t exist. Yes they do. Confirmed locally. Also fairly close by, doctors being let go from hospitals to save $ and prevent closure. Confirmed.

    • Mari,

      Home’r gives you sound advise. Make certain you can trust people before disclosing preps.

    • Warmongerel says:

      I agree. Watch out for people unless you “know their mind”.

      I have an old friend of mine that wants to meet and discuss TEOTWAWKI suddenly. I’d love to trust him, but I don’t know if I should.

      He’s into the whole “Illuminati” conspiracy thing. I’ve told him that it’s much more basic than that, and that if the world crashes it will be because of nothing more than the Leftists spending money that we don’t have to buy votes, power and influence. He refuses to believe it.

      So far, I’ve told him to stock up on water, food and ammo but, quite frankly, he probably isn’t a guy that I want around if it comes down to it.

      I guess what I’m trying to say is that, if I don’t even trust an old friend, you should definitely not trust someone whom you’ve just “discovered” as a potential prepper.

      Is that cold? Maybe. But, when it comes down to the survival of my daughter and me, I’m prepared to be a lot colder than that.

      • HomeINsteader says:

        I hear you loud and clear, warmongerel – but don’t be too quick too close off the listening to your friend, either. The Illuminati is very, very real and has been around for many generations. It might surprise you to learn just “who” is on the roster!

        • Tactical G-Ma says:

          I don’t know anything about the Illuminati except what I have seen in the movies. What are your sources? Are they priests or some fraternity?

          • HomeINsteader says:

            Neither priests nor some fraternity. I’m afraid I can not tell you more in this forum. Sorry. They have been around for a very long time, however, since the founding of our country, at a minimum. I don’t really watch t.v. or movies much, so, no, Hollywood or the media is not the source of my info, either.

            They are not fiction; they are not a figment of an active imagination. They are real, and their agenda is real. It ain’t good.

            Those who have reached “a certain level” in the Masons know. And, no – I am not nor shall I ever be associated with the Masons. But I did have family who were, sorry to say.

            • Tactical G-Ma says:

              I read the definition on Wikipedia. Sounds like Nazis, to me.

            • I don’t think there is a specific group known as the Illuminati, the Bilderbergers, and other mythical power groups; however, the people that would make up these types of groups include some of the wealthiest families in the world. They have control of governments and politicians and their most public attempt at control of everything is the U.N. Agenda 21. You can go to the U.N. website and look at the goals and the process, all out in the open, in clear text. Many of these are progressives who think that they are so much smarter than the rest of us, and the fact that they managed to get TDL reelected in spite of the poor economy and economic outlook, should make us all aware of their potential and their plans. As for the Masons, I think they are a convenient boogie man to point at, like the magicians trick of watching my right hand, while the left hand performs the magic.

            • Sw't Tater says:

              They are very real. You have to have a certain IQ to get an invitation to join them. I know of two people who received such invitations..they did not agree with their agenda…

          • Hunker-Down says:

            Tactical G-Ma,

            Another conspiracy tale going back centuries: Half smog, half truth. It spans from the 15-16th century Franciscans to our current day federal reserve system with most boogeyman stories through that period loosely attached to and blamed on the Illuminati. Their purpose was redefined every time a new accuser added a new conspiracy story with another layer of spooky members.


            Click on the “more info below” to expand the text.

      • Cold? Yes! But very realistic! Mari, anybody flapping their mouths about their preps is just someone to listen very closely to. Say nothing, give nothing away! Just listen. What you will most probably hear is someone that has a very unbalanced view of prepping and in the process of their bragging, you will be able to figure out what they don’t have and won’t mind taking from you. Listen for what they are “willing to do” as in “why stock up groceries, I have a gun” mentalities. Don’t share! Don’t give advice! Ask questions, never answer any.l

        • Warmongerel says:

          I agree, OhioPrepper. That’s what I keep telling my friend. Yes, there is a group trying to usher in a “New World Order”, but it’s the “Progressives” as you call them. I just call them outright Communists. You can call them the “Illuminati” if you’d like.

          And you’re right: they’ve been openly plotting to take over the world for the past 200+ years. Most people think that Communism began with Karl Marx, but his ideas were just the version of Communism that became popular.

          A little known fact is that the first English settlers in America tried to implement a Communist system of governance. They almost starved to death – because everyone expected the others to provide for them – and quickly switched to a free-market system.

          • Warmongerel,
            Those first settlers “had” to have the communist system of share the work & the wealth, because that was in their contract from the company that sponsored them. It only took one winter of nearly starving to death to make each person responsible for himself, which ultimately worked. The mantra of “From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs” is a very alluring slogan and would work well if all man were angels and there was no slothfulness and greed; however, human nature being what it is, it only works in small groups where all who join the group have the right work ethic and morals, although over time, even these generally fail. In the second Atlas Shrugged movies they discuss this from a former employee of a company with this mission. As he put it, those with ability worked harder and harder and those with needs, only became more needy. That I think pretty much sums it up.

            The progressive movement was in full tilt in the early 1900’s USA. They are responsible for the 16th and 17th amendments (Income tax and direct election of senators) and the Federal Reserve. Eventually, the very term progressive became toxic, so they all became liberals. Now that liberal has become toxic, they are all once again progressives, trying yet again to hide their true elitist agenda.

      • No, that’s not cold at all, at least not to my way of thinking. Myself, I can be colder than a mackeral when necessary. Big mouth has a very big mouth, particularly with her rants on “21.” She shares her huge concern with anyone who will listen (which was why I advised her to watch her back at work); however, I think her pals in the office, while concerned, are much smarter at keeping a low profile and thinking about things they need to do even if just relating to storm / power outage preps. They will never ever hear about what I have or do. I’m even leery of any pepper-related solicited suggestions as that info might be overheard by big mouth talking to anyone who sits close to a person whom I don’t trust at all for any reason. And that person is the only one at work who knows where I live. Desperate people are capable of doing incredibly stupid things.

        One, the absolute discreet one, is extremely knowledgeable about poultry, and I’ve no doubt that person will give me any info that I might need in that regard if I were to ask. No other pepper info is shared between us, but I’d venture to say we both intuitively know we’ve both got many aspects covered for a reasonable amount of time.

  75. HomeINsteader says:

    Be VERY CAREFUL, Mari; trust no one UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU A REASON TO TRUST THEM. And avoid “big mouth” like the plague she is. That smiling face today will come for what you prepped and he/she didn’t tomorrow, and they won’t care what they have to do to get it.

  76. Mari, yes as ObamaCare rolls out there will be lots of businesses taking what they hope will be survival measures to save their businesses. While a few, Red Lobster; Olive Garden; Walmart; McDonald’s are making their stands to hire mostly part time staff going forward, there are many more not willing to make broad statements and take the heat from the media, they are just gonna do it. Keep your eyes open, your mind open, take it all in, but be careful what you say and to whom you say it. Best advice I have.

  77. I don’t usually post twice in a week, but today there are quite a few specifically prepper-type books free that I’ve listed here. http://preputilityvehicle.blogspot.ca/2012/12/free-books-available-dec-6-2012.html Hopefully everyone interested in free prepping books already checks there every day but I know with the high regard for Op Sec in this community not very many actually subscribe and may forget, so here’s a reminder. Been quite a few lately, not just today. Enjoy!

    It seems like since the WDYDTPTW posts changed to Sundays, there have been a lot fewer comments on them. I’m sure you all have noticed that too. I wonder whether many people need the two weekend days of time just after it’s posted to really get into conversations and sitting down to post and read. Wondering, M.D., if Saturdays mornings are bad for you, whether posting sometime on Friday might encourage more contributions. Then more people have the whole weekend to read and post. Not really my business but just a thought. I’m sure you’ve already thought of it. Maybe the reduced posting is a blessing for you! 🙂

    • Natalia,

      I’ve been considering moving the post back to Saturday…

      • PGCPrepper says:

        I, for one, would rather you do what fits your life schedule the best. It seems that all other’s find some time to post somewhere during the following days other than HomeInsteader 😀 j/k HI. Hahaha

        I wouldn’t want to moderate all these comments myself and appreciate it. Please do what fits you best. BTW, send me the mailing address you use for a contribution. I will only send a personal check. TIA

        • PGCPrepper,

          Overall an average of 200-300 comments per day… but I feel good about it. I just hope this blog helps a lot of folks live better today and survive tomorrow.

  78. HomeINsteader says:

    You are amazing, M.D.! Thank you for all you do every day. And I still think you should bring on board a “helper”, no matter what some say. I totally trust you to find someone whom YOU trust implicitly, and that is good enough for me.

  79. Hey, Wolfpack, I have a question. I have been using the homemade laundry deterfent recipe for sveral months now. The only complaint I have is that it leaves a dingy ring at the water level (like a bathtub ring). Can anyoone tell me if there is a way to prevent this?

    • Sw't Tater says:

      Clean your washer by filling the tub completely full of water. preferably hot. add 2 oz of oxiclean allow to sit two hours and rinse tub… the detergent has super cleaned the tub…you might also try wiping the tub down with a cotton cloth dipped in vinegar after every few washes- after you have cleaned it.

  80. Picked up “Where There Is No Doctor”, and “Where There Is No Dentist”, filled a few empty cat litter bottles with non-potable water, bought some Calcium Hypochlorite, bought some of those mylar emergency blankets for emergency kits, dried some spinach, and added a few other things to the pantry.

    Love this blog. Fairly new to the prepping thing, and can’t do much as most of your readers as I am an urban condo dweller, but feeling like I could handle a few months of lack of services if some sort of disaster happened. Except for water. Still trying to figure out how to manage that for more than a couple of weeks.

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