What Did You Do To Prep This Week

Before we start today, I would like to send a big thank you to Tomthetinker for his donation – when I checked my paypal account, I was shocked at the amount he had sent. His was the largest single donation, I’ve ever received in support of the blog. Thank you, so very much, you are greatly appreciated. The money will be put to good use.

I would also like to thank everyone for their suggestions after posting about my bout with bloggers block, in two days, I received over 300 emails with suggestions and ideas for future blog posts.  I now have a long list of stuff to write about over the next several months – thank you all. With over 1,400 posts logged, I suppose a lack of ideas at some point was unavoidable.

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Okay, lets see what did I do to prep this week…

Finished reading “Lights Out” by David Crawford – Lights Out is a great book and I suggest everyone who likes fiction read it. No, I’m not going to give away the storyline here because I don’t want to spoil the book for those who haven’t read it yet, but I don’t think you will be disappointed.

Seasoned all my cast iron cookware,  added more turmeric powder to the spice rack – turmeric has been used for over 2,500 years in India and boasts numberous health benefits including the prevention of certain cancers and inflammation. You can buy turmeric in supplement form but I prefer to add the powder to my food as I’m preparing it.

Been looking at a used Ruger Mini-14 GB I don’t need it, but the price is low enough that I could resell it for a profit, if I decided not to keep it. The Mini-14 is a good little carbine it’s stronger and can take more abuse than the AR-15 but it isn’t as accurate.

Built another chicken-wire fish trap (another idea for a future blog post) these traps are great for putting meat on the table and are easy to hide from anyone passing by including the Game Warden LOL.

Last weeks “What did you do to prep this week” received over 300 comments as far as I can remember this is the most comments we’ve had on any single post to date – lets see if we can break that record again this week.

What did you do to prep this week? Let us know in the comments below…

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  1. Matt in Oklahoma says:

    Most fish traps are legal if you are using them to “collect bait”. Check the local laws of course. Always check them cautiously for other aquatic wildlife too such as snakes (which are not bad eating either). I keep numerous types of traps around for emergencies but I also use them too as trapping is a perishable skill. Mine include perch traps, gopher traps, rat/mouse traps, #3 and #5 long spring jaw traps and 2 sizes of live traps.

    Conducted monthly generator test and had the daughter do a review on start up procedures. Got a great chance to “workout” on snow shovels, do vehicle recovery, cold weather operations and snow driving! What more could a wanna be survivalist want?

    One of my plans in the event of power outages is to use the solar powered yard lights we have to mark the hallway. We have done it in the past. With the recent snowstorm that would have been a fail or at least a partial fail. I didn’t lose power but I lost my lights! The snow drifts put 3-4ft of snow on top of them except for one. I might need to put it on my snowstorm list to pull them in and place them in the windows for recharging. Something to think about.

    • nobodyssister says:

      Good point in your second paragraph, Matt re: winter storms. Kansas got hit too, and I was able to break in my hiking boots, test out my winter car kit and get-home bag.

      Made it 99% of the way home from work on Tuesday, but got stuck on my own street. DH and 2 neighbors had to dig the car out. Glad I wore the right clothes for the cold. Need a folding shovel for the trunk.

      • Just for consideration, go to any hardware store and check out the very sturdy shorter length shovels as opposed to a folding shovel. My experience has been the folding ones don’t hold up all that well and the standard short shovel is a better option.

        When I had a car and lived up north the short shovel I bought worked great.

        Just something to think about.

        • What I meant to add is that the short shovel fit in the trunk of my sedan and didn’t take up a lot of room.

  2. Have spent a good part of the week watching what has been happening in Eygpt. It is a lesson in how quickly things can spiral into chaos. Tha biggest thing that I noted was (1) how quickly access to information was shut down, (2) how quickly the bank machines were emptied, and (3) how quickly people ran out of food and water with stores closed and no access to money. It was a far better lesson in preparedness than the snow storm which in our area dropped less than a foot of snow.

    Bought 3-8kg bags of rice at $8.99 a bag on sale and one 10kg bag of Quick Oats at $15.99. Also bought 4-No.10 cans of fruit salad for $3.99 a tin – great price!

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Lili this an e-mail I sent my friends on egypt the comments I made are in parentheses

      These are some things I think about Egypt and what is happening. I do not believe that it can not happen here.


      Unfortunately many Americans will never start to prepare until it is far too late. But for the rest of us that are willing to learn, there are some things that have happened during these Egypt riots that are important lessons for all of us….

      #1 When society breaks down, people look for whatever weapons they can find. Over this past week, abandoned police stations throughout Egypt have been stripped of their arsenals by looters. (why wait to have what you need and have what you need to defend against those that will steal from police stations?)
      #2 When society breaks down, nobody is safe. Average Egyptians “armed with sticks and razors” have formed vigilante groups to protect their homes from the crazed looters that have emerged during the rioting. (why wait to have what you need? Form one with your friends/neighbors/family now and we don’t need sticks we have the 2nd Amendment.)
      #3 When society breaks down, you better protect your women and children. At least 60 rapes have been officially reported since the rioting began. The unofficial number is surely far higher than that. (But where’s the law, oh yeah it’s a societal breakdown, they left too)
      #4 When society breaks down, criminals do not fear the law. There are reports that at least 4 prisons have been attacked and that thousands of convicts have escaped into the streets. (Think it won’t/can’t happen here, guess again because outside help is already often used in escapes, manpower is always in short supply because prisons do not rank in society)
      #5 When society breaks down, authoritarian governments begin hoarding food. The Telegraph is reporting that governments throughout the Middle East and North Africa have started stockpiling huge amounts of food in response to all the rioting that has been going on. (Again why wait to have what you need? Stock up now!Oh yeah our Government did this last 6mths with “heater meals”and Mountain House Foods, wonder why, what do they know?)
      #6 When society breaks down, food shortages can happen shockingly fast. As commerce has been brought to a standstill in Egypt, serious shortages of some of the most important basic food staples are starting to be reported. Many families in Egypt only have enough food to be able to survive for a couple more days. (Again why wait to have what you need? Stock up now, a few days, really? Why not have weeks or months? I hear ya, I can’t afford it, really a 5gl bucket of rice is $30 and another $5 for the mylar and bucket, how long will that feed you? and it last 20 yrs. Let me know, I will show you how and help you.)
      #7 When society breaks down, respect for personal property goes out the window. All over Egypt shops and businesses are being broken into and totally looted. (If you do have stocks of stuff stay quiet or it won’t just be shops getting looted!)
      #8 When society breaks down, mobs will start doing some of the most stupid things imaginable. According to Egypt’s top archaeologist, Zahi Hawass, looters broke into the Egyptian Museum during the rioting “and destroyed two pharaonic mummies”.
      #9 When society breaks down, it always creates a “power void”. The Obama administration is calling for an “orderly transition of power” in Egypt, but there is absolutely no guarantee that is going to happen – especially in a nation that has no history of legitimate democracy. (Hahaha we Americans don’t even have full order during “elections” what makes anyone think it will be different in a breakdown, but hey just sit and wait the Government will be there to help you)
      #10 When society breaks down, often outside influences are involved. The individual being touted as the new “leader” of the protest movement in Egypt is Mohamed ElBaradei. (Outside influences you say, why that can’t happen here, unless you mean like Sharia Law upheld in a rape in New Jersey or the new Supreme Court Judge who stated that INTERNATIONAL LAW takes precedence in some cases over the CONSTITUTION? and lets not forget about us waiting to see what China said before we even made statements when things escalated between N/S Korea.)

      Prepare, Work to Change and Pray!

      • Patriot Farmer says:

        Every time I bring this up with co-workers and some family member all they do is laugh. Some many think this country is immune from these things

        • Lake Lili says:

          Sadly my sister is one of them. We stayed at her house for three days – the entire contents of their pantry included2 boxes of cereal (Special K and Rice Crispies), a box of fruit leathers, a bag of chips and a stale box of crackers. Their fridge had the usual assortment of condiments plus fruit cocktail juice boxes and a 1-L carton of skim milk. I had more food in our emergency box in the truck! The scary thing is that they have 2 kids under five. The boys eat a hot lunch a school and they generally order in food at night – and they eat crap. I offered to make a meal and was told that it was too complicated. It scares the heck out of me what will happen to them when the SHTF… not because I won’t have enough to share wth them but because when the SHTF they will spend so much time “waiting it out” that they will loose the window to leave the large urban centre they live in. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink…

        • axelsteve says:

          Just remind them of the great depresson. Then remind them of our kenyan in chief and his healthcare plan.Then ask them if they have been on a planeride recently. Ask them if our constitution is void in our airports. Steve

    • 10 kg oats $15.99 = 73 cents lb
      Grocery store oatmeal 42 oz $2.49 = 95 cents lb
      Feed store cleaned whole oats 50 lb $9.95 = 20 cents lb
      When assured that feed store oats are safe to eat I will buy a bunch. I tried millet, amaranth, quinoa and oatmeal in my chili.
      Oatmeal tastes good, is very nutritious and cheaper.
      2 lb ground beef chuck
      2 cups oatmeal
      15 oz can Ranch Style Beans
      two tablespoons
      one tablespoon
      chili powder
      yellow curry
      two teaspoons
      boil meat and oatmeal until done
      add beans
      put spices in half cup water,
      shake well and stir into chili

  3. I added a grain roller
    2 pair of security pocket socks
    6 cans of candy packed for storage for DH sweet tooth.
    Refreshed my flu supplies, vitamins and herbal supplements from Vitacost.com
    Planted a new mulberry tree.

    Congrats on the donation and the amount of replies M.D.

  4. I purchased a Mini-14 in 1981. It was a used piece of equipment acquired from a local peace-officer, having a flash- suppressor and a 20 rd mag. I used it to coyotes and feral hogs as I could a send lot of lead down range in a hurry. In 1983 I had a simple 4X scope mounted, and have used it to kill white-tailed deer since. As far as accuracy goes I’ve taken nice bucks with head shots at 75 to 100 yards. It’s been a good tool for me.
    My preps this week was centered around keeping wood at the house for the fireplace and soap-stone stove as we had a real cold snap(at least for Texas Hill Country). Unfortunately my wife fell at work Thursday and broke her upper arm…surgery appears to be in the near future. Sometimes it hits the fan in different ways.

    • It always seems to be the one you were not expecting.

      Really sorry to hear about your wife. Good wishes sent her way.

    • Ouch! Sorry to hear about your wife.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Bad break (sorry about the pun) for your wife. If surgery will restore her arm to 100% then it may be cheaper in the long run to have the operation than not. Wishing you both better times soon.

      • axelsteve says:

        Concern over the cost of the surgery should not apply in her case. She was injured at work ,there should be zero out of pocket expenses. I am sorry to hear of her accident though. Steve

    • Very sorry to hear that your wife broke her arm and hope that surgery if required goes well.

    • axelsteve says:

      Dubya. my best friend got a mini 14 back in 76 or 77. good little carbine for what it is, not as accurate as a ar. However it has a heck of a less parts then a ar. 30 round mags are kinda cool also. He also has a 03 that he bought from a marine that carried it into D day. The story behind that rifle is worth what he paid for it. Steve

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      I hope your wife heals quickly and goes thru surgery well.

    • Sorry to heat about your wife. Maybe she’ll heal fast and the surgery won’t be necessary. I will keep her in my prayers.

  5. I started cleaning out my freezer. It’s the least organized of my preps & so far I’ve found several packages of meat with freezer burn – not so bad it’s not edible, but they do need lots of seasoning! A couple of packages were so old they are chicken food. I did try to cook one of them & my son jokingly accused me of trying to poison him. :~(

    Thank God for chickens! They will eat anything. :~)

    God bless,
    Opportunity Farm
    Eastern WA

  6. nobodyssister says:

    Bought another 5 gallon gas can, filled it and stabilized it. Now stored in the basement well away from anything else.

    Added some condiments to the larder to make the bulk foods more appetizing: jam, preserves, and Tabasco sauce.

    Reorganized ammo stores and determined that I need three more 30 caliber ammo cans.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      I highly recommend getting the gasoline out of the basement, particularly if you have a gas furnace or gas water heater down there. The pilot light from either of these can ignite the fumes and boom….no more house. Static electricity can also ignite gasoline fumes. Please dont wait on this, it doesnt take much to start a fire.

      • Teenageprepper says:

        I agree, keeping it in your basement is a major risk. I’d recomend that you store the gas outside in a tool shed or similar area.

        • Tomthetinker says:

          AZ and Teen are right….Yikes….. Flash point of Gas vapor……….. static will ignite the vapor. Pulling cloths outta the drier can lite it off. Dragging your feet across the basement floor and you lean down to pick up the can and …… zap! Find a squarish trash can and set the can inside. make a cheap pine shelf wedged ontop of can one and set can two. Wally mart sells large plastic tubs…. I used a large deep one for nearly a year to store two squarish plastic ‘cans’ of gas…. outside.. out by the back fence. Reality sucks… some of us really have no place to store combustables except our vehicals.

    • The Prepper says:

      How long will your stabilized fuel last? Which items do you add to it?

    • Winnabird says:

      Again, the word on the street is that small motors around my part of Texas are gumming up from having had gasoline with ethanol as part of the fuel stored in them for only a few months.

      Surely someone out there can address this issue. Seems that the 10% ethanol changes everything about storage even with stabilizer.


      • Winnabird- my boss just mentioned that same issue this week. Said the stabilizers don’t work as well with the ethanol mixture and the gas goes bad and shouldnt be used. He moved up here from the Tulsa area. Could be the shipments to that region. Will have to look into it further. I’ll see what I can dig up.

  7. Candy from Nebraska says:

    This week I purchased 25 lbs of wheat, 25 lbs of sugar, 24 cans of spam, 48 cans of tuna, 2 #10 cans of ketchup to re-can into pint jars, 1 #10 can mustard to re-can as well.
    Helped daughter move back in with us due to hubby leaving her with a 2 month old baby. Fun but we dealing with it. purchased 12 cans of formula. 2 boxes of larger sized diapers along with the size already needed. 6 pkgs of baby wipes can never have to many of these.
    Learned I need a different kind of a grain grinder to get a finer grind. Dont want to eat strictly cream of wheat that coulld get tiring. Pricing new food dehydrators and wood burning stoves. Hubby talking about turning my office into a kitchen. This is gonna be interesting (not much at remodleing..lol)

    • Google “amazon mom”. It’s free to sign up and gives amazing benefits. Basically you ‘subscribe’ to a shipment from the amazon baby department and you become eligible for free second day shipping on those items… Also you get amazon prime benefits free for a year. I subscribed for one box of diapers a month. I was paying $42 for the same box @ Sam’s Club. With amazon mom benefits I pay $29 (30% savings) and get free 2nd day shipping on any amazon prime eligible item!

      On another note… I rec’d a mini 14 for my high school grad gift in 1996. It has treated me very good. I own four 5 round mags for it an six 30 founders. Not the most accurate weapon out there, but I one dropped a coyote on the run @ over 400 yards. I hit him 6 out of 10 shots.

      I am new to prepping. This weeks snow storm taught me that my freezer has been over looked for far too long. I love the idea mentioned above about re-canning condiments.

  8. 40 more pounds of rice and another 20 lbs of navy beans. Got some leather to make sheaths for a couple of knifes and for my new Axe. Bought a Berkey water filter and I am just waiting for it to be delivered. All in all a pretty good week. A bit expensive but everything I got was vital. Or at least thats how I justify it to myself!! lol

    • GardenMom says:

      We received our Berkey about a week ago. We love it. The water tastes great.

      • We’ve had ours for a few months now and love it too. Tastes great and the peace of mind is tough to beat – There are days where the water coming out of our tap smells like pool water it’s been treated so heavily. But with the Berkey we don’t have to worry about it!

  9. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    Built my first chicken tractor, based on the guest post from a couple weeks ago. It turned out looking pretty good, made from pallets. Gave it to a friend who owns a nearby ranch. He can use it and tell me what improvements to make for the next one.

    Received my new knife and lighter for my EDC. Good to go now.

    Planted some vegetable seeds in 5-gallon black nursery containers. Had to elevate the planters onto sawhorse platforms to keep the neighborhood cats from using them as litter boxes. Hope to get some rain soon. While nost of the country was battling arctic weather conditions, it’s been in the mid 60’s here. Good for planting, but maybe not so good for water resources.

    Laid in more food stores. If my calculations are accurate, based on what I normally eat in a month and then adding some extra cans for family/charity and for backup, I now have a 1- year supply of stored food. That is a milestone I never thought I’d achieve, but this blog gave me the incentive to do it. It’s a great feeling. Of course I realize it could all be lost, so I have food & water spread throughout the house. This is partially due to space limitations and partly due to not wanting to put all my eggs in one basket. Trapped in one room? No problem – I’ve got food and water in each room. Even the master bath has a couple cans of food and a couple bottles of water in it.

    Picked up more rolls of nickels at the bank. They are my secondary savings account. They are too awkward to use if I contemplate making an impulsive purchase. Imagine trying to buy a generator on Sunday, for example, with rolls of nickels. Not gonna happen. But if money gets really tight then I’ll have them as cash on hand for necessities.

    Keeping the gas tank topped off due to the increasing unrest throughout the middle east. Why don’t we just drill for our own oil? We have enough for our needs for at least 100 years. Drill here, drill now!!! Corn is for eating, not ethanol.

    On Thursday, a piece of heavy furniture arrived that I had requested last week from the thrift shop. It’s an 8′ sofa, very heavy and has a solid wooden back with upholstery on the front side. Plus, it’s got big heavy wooden arms, and a wooden bench seat with loose seat cushions. This thing is the Hulk of furniture. It’s not attractive, but it is functional. Thrift shop owner told me it came from an old hotel in a large city. Cost me $60.00 delivered. I sold my nice sofa for $70.00, so I’m ahead of the game so far. Should be getting more used heavy furniture this coming week. Plan to get a couple of chairs, an end table, and a coffee table. Can use the tables to barricade the front door if that ever becomes necessary. If I can get the right type of chairs, I intend to stack them on the sofa (which is under the livingroom window) and then use a binding strap to secure the chairs on top of the sofa to add a layer of protection to the front window. These on the inside, and plywood over the windows on the outside, should slow down any looters or rioters long enough to let me escape out the back if I know they’re coming. I think I would know they’re coming because gangs and crowds make lots of noise. Anyhow, I pray I never have to do any of this stuff, but it’s good to be prepared!

    With all the great weather, went metal detecting in the parks. Found several clad coins and a nice GOLD ring (14k). Cha-ching. Getting harder to find 14k jewelry, most being 10k these days due to the high cost of gold. So the ring will be converted into a couple sheets of plywood on Monday when the coin shop opens up and the lumber yard is having a sale. Talk about good timing. LOL

    Happy prepping.

    • Wow, great milestone to hit one year of preps. Now aim for two. Many a society has fallen because of two consecutive years of crop failures. Also consider off-site storage. If the house burns down or you have to bug out, a well-prepped storage locker could save you.

      • axelsteve says:

        Egypt became a world power beacus of there farming back in the Bible days.Thier worldpower days have greatly diminished though. Lol Steve

  10. Went a bit off my plan (actually, went ahead with one part and dropped behind in another due to a few unforeseen house repairs).

    Purchased a XD-9 subcompact (3″ barrel), including extra mags, holster, & night sights. I really like the XD-9 5″ barrel, so I decided to add to it.

    Also purchased an AR-7 .22 LR. We’ll see how it shoots.

    • The XD9 is a fine pistol. In fact I’m looking at one right now sitting by my keyboard. I installed a Crimson Trace Laser on it as a lttle insurance since my eyes don’t focus well on open sights anymore. It does the trick nicely. I have two XDs the sub compact 9mm and a compact 45 acp. I have converted to alomost all Glock pistols, but I couldn’t give up my XD’s or my 1911’s . As for the AR7, I’ve never owned one but I have never heard anything negative about them. The 1022 serves my needs for an automatic 22 cal. rifle.
      You are smart to buy extra mags now. Most don’t realize they need them and hi-caps may be banned before too long. Doing so seems harmless to most sheeple and it will most likely pass muster in both houses and Obama will sign pretty much any gun control bill that reaches his desk.

  11. Thank you MD for posting Jenny’s (from frontier freedom) post on pine pitch salve. We took advantage of the unusual WARM weather and gathered pine pitch and now have 6 LARGE jars by the woodstove. Did 3 with olive oil, 2 with coconut oil and 1 with some butter we had canned a couple of years ago and wanted to check it and it was perfectly fine.
    In collecting the pitch took advantage of gathering “maintenance” wood too.
    Watched all 30 you tube videos from ThePatriotNurse, very GOOD information highly recommend everybody watch her channel.
    All our snow seems to be going everywhere else! :^( we love snow!

  12. Congrats on breaking the record on posts.

    So lets see what I got done this week, first I kept a list and added to it so that I would not forget things I had done.

    30 pds of cow manure to the main garden
    Wintersowned a number of pots/plots that were prepped for it last fall for early garden production.
    6 1kg jars of Peanut Butter
    6 500gm Jars of Cheese Wiz
    4- Gallon Jugs of Bleach
    50 pds of Baking Soda
    20 pds of Plain Salt
    20 pds of oatmeal
    1 large Bottle of Extra Strength Tylenol
    2 Gallons of olive oil
    Two New Chainsaw Chains
    One liter bottle of Chainsaw Oil
    9 box’s of Strike Anywhere Matches
    6 Rolls of stretch medical tape
    100 6 cc Lock Syringe
    100 Desposable Needles
    Sheep/Cow Vaccines tailored for local area.
    For Knitting, currently working on leg warmers and started another Cowl.
    Filled a 55 gallon drum with water in case of storm, but didn’t need it..so still have the extra water stored.
    Had a farmer down the road drop off a new plastic water storage tank, (he got six of them for free, they orgainally had yogurt in them? and is sharing the wealth) it will hold 400 gallons of water, awesome.. going to set it up for a rain collection off my one metal roof, with extra to go to a hose that will water out garden area.
    Got ahold of my dad and told him I want my traps sent out my way.. found out that about half of them have been borrowed by big brother so sent a email out to him that I want them back..
    Got my bacon cured and drying

    turmeric is wonderful is it not, I don’t know if you might like to try it, but I Mix Turmeric, Black Pepper, Garlic Powder and tiny amount of dryed hot mustard together and that is what sits on the table instead of the salt/pepper shaker. Its a great combo of flavors together.

  13. shotzeedog says:

    Ordered and received black Berkey filters. Ordered a down blanket -that should help the microplush blanket and quilt that we currently use keep us warmer when the power is out.

    I have a question : With the power out this past week I was not able to vacuum our wall to wall carpet in the familyroom or bedrooms. We have a German Shedder (Shepherd) that is leaving hair every where. The broom or old manual carpet sweeper is not cutting it. Any one have ideas on what to do? (The generator was already at capacity, besides what to do in a long term grid down situation)

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      You remember Green Acres? Probably carbon dated myself but unplug something for a few, vacum then switch back. thats how I run the microwave by unplugging stuff, making my 3 min meal then switching back:)

    • Shotzeedog, In the past, I have actually used a plastic leaf rake on carpet. Cant remember why, but I know it worked fairly well. The prongs have to be close together but you’d be amazed at what it will gather. Good Luck 🙂

    • My roomba is great at picking up pet hair and since it runs off a battery wouldn’t be a problem during a power outage. Recharging shouldn’t be much of a drain either.

    • Twigenberry says:

      Comb the carpet. (I’m actually being serious here). When I was a kid my grandmother had several cats that shed horribly and only had a manual carpet sweeper that was not up to the task. To get the carpet defurred I made a comb rake contraption with a couple of wider tooth combs taped on a rake. (Yes, I was a strange child). It wasn’t one of the fan rakes, but the ones with a straight head and evenly spaced teeth. The combs close the gaps and pick up the fur as you rake along. Not digging hard into the carpet, but just lifting and balling as I went. When the fur was up I could go back and use the manual sweeper. In theory it could work as a long term grid down option, although I only did this when helping clean for large family gatherings.

      I suppose the alternative could be to shave the dog… (not so serious here).

    • Luddite Jean says:

      Tie a piece of cotton velvet tightly around your broom, pile side out. Brush across your carpet, it picks up the hairs and the action rolls them into clumps that you can pick up with your hands. I used this for years with my GSD.

    • shotzeedog says:

      Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I knew you guys would come threw for me – you all are the best!

      • Might I suggest something for a long term plan. I’m not trying to be smart or critical here. I hav a dog and a cat in my house as well.

        Figure out how to get rid of your carpets all together. We threw ours out last year. Luckily for us we had hardwood floors beneath the carpet anyway. If you don’t you’ll have to look at veneer flooring or something similar. Once you are rid of them you’ll be glad. I never realized how much pet hair gets in our house as long as we had carpets. Once they are out you see it all and you can keep it cleaned up. Your house will be cleaner and you will be healthier.

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  15. AZ rookie prepper says:

    Added a little more to the larder, mostly pinto beans and canned fruit. Picking up a good sturdy bicycle today, pretty sure that fuel is gonna skyrocket in cost soon due to the chaos in egypt. It isnt over yet and could spread to other mideast countries. Liked what “Matt in Oklahoma” had to say, makes sense to me. “Lint Picker” has me thinking about “hardening” the house some more too. Really hoping this cold snap didnt kill my onions and garlic. We shall see. Picked up two books on chickens/coops. Really sliced up my finger turning the compost over, reminder to self, WEAR GLOVES!!! LOL. After raiding the first aid kit, made new list of first aid items to add next time I get to the store, hydrogen peroxide, gauze, tape, iodine and alcohol swabs. Am I missing anything?
    On a side note, if I said it once, I’ll say it a hundred times, THANKS M.D. for a great blog!!! Keeps me motivated and informed and gives me back some faith in humankind knowing there are great people here reading and contributing.

    • AZ rookie prepper,

      Thank you – good people are hard to find and I think most have found this blog.

      • AZ rookie prepper, I don’t think the cold will hurt your onions.
        We always put ours in around the 1st of the year and we can count on quite a few hard freezes every year. They are really sturdy against the cold.

        • Right now the bigger problem we are having is too warm weather. Many more days of this and the almond trees and fruit trees will open and then kabaam a freeze will come along and kill the blossoms so we don’t get any fruit.

          • You are right about that. A few years back my wife had an Asian fruit tree of some sort and she had me covering it with plastic at night to prevent frost from killing it or doing what you describe. I really got tired of getting up on a ladder to cover that tree. It died for some unknown reason. To this day we don’t know what killed it, but I suspect it was divine intervention.

        • AZ rookie prepper says:

          Judith, Thanks for the encouragement. Got down to the single digits, so it was a little more than just a hard freeze, but today is pretty nice and took another look and both the onions and the garlic seem to be ok. Hope your trees are ok too. I had planted some blackberry bushes and two brown turkey fig trees the previous weekend, think they’ll be ok.

          • AZ rookie most blackberry bushes will tolerate temps down to about -10 F so they should be okay. I live in NE Arizona and have blackberry, blueberry and raspberry bushes and they have survived a -22 F freeze at the beginning of January.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          Yeah, the warm weather is great for working outside, but not great for new plants and for the farmers. The snow pack is melting, which isn’t good for this summer. Bring back the rain – only not so much at once. LOL

  16. Been enjoying this site so much! Thank you for all your hard work and effort…

    Bought a new canning kit, ordered some Tattler re-usable lids for canning, got my son to bring home 5 5- gallon buckets from his work: now just need to get some Gamma lids.

    Got Hubby reading One Second After, and now he is getting on board!

  17. OhioPrepper says:

    I had a Ruger Mini-14 Stainless ranch rifle (purchased used) about 15 years ago. I really wanted an AR-15, but that was out of my price range. Over time I saved my pennies and finally purchased the AR. Sold the Mini-14 for what I had in it, even after I used it for more than 3 1/2 years. The downside is that the barrel is a little flimsy, which limits its accuracy beyond 150 yards or so. The upside is that it is significantly less expensive than the AR, it’s extremely reliable, and it ate every kind of ammunition I fed it, with no complaints or jams. All in all it’s a good rifle, and I actually kind of miss the one I had.

    • OhioPrepper,

      The mini-14 is a good little carbine, I’ve owned several over the years and they have all been reliable and most shoot into around 3-4 inches at 100 yards. The new ones now have a thicker barrel and are said to shoot 11/2 -2 inch groups at 100 yards.

      • OhioPrepper says:

        Good to hear about the heavier barrel. It’s really the only improvement I would have recommended. Come to think of it, I actually miss that little rifle.

  18. Tomthetinker says:

    Not alot of time this week. Ordered three books from amazon for the library. A Marbles 000 hatchet for the extra trunk bag. 50# of rice, 4 cases of assorted entrees in a can. 1/2 case of tuna. 5 cases of noodles. 2- 9’X12′ plastic covers. more ‘homer’ buckets cause I’m using mylar. assorted plumbing parts for sinks and toilets. 400# salt. The last 8-1lb propane bottles. 6# of PB.
    From now on it’s use one, buy two for the wet storage. Scheduled the olde pickup in for a new manafold.
    HELP>>>>> Anybody got a plan for making your own ‘berkey’ style water filter system? I saw one last year on gawd knows what blog. All you need is a set of black filters and……….. crappola..I can come up with a design of my own…. abut I sure don’t mind a tried idea…… It cuts the cost by 2/3rds or so…… nested 5 gal. buckets etc.

  19. I put my CHL application in the mail. I took the required course last weekend.

    I spent much of the week dealing with the ice, snow, and cold that hit the DFW area. We even got hit with the rolling blackouts – fortunately, not for very long. With my preps, it was all just an annoyance. But, I did identify some potential weaknesses I will try to address before next winter.

  20. Tomthetinker says:

    MD: You are most welcome! This blog has taken days… weeks… out of my prep time. The ideas…. the imput I’ve gotten in here have saved me enough to.. finish.. more than one aspect of my preps. The links have been a huge insight. This place gives me a ‘focus’ on so very much… So.. Thank You MD!

    OK…… so now everybody get back to work………..

  21. Finally got my sister on-board!! Sending her all sorts of e-mails and pics of how-to’s. She could only imagine those pre-packed everything decided for you type of one year programs. They are very pricy and frequently not what you’d prefer to eat. (Though they’re tidy, in cans and boxes all the same size and stackable.) Now she’s calling me daily for info on what and how to store.
    Clued her to this, and other sites. Kid, if you see this, yes I’m talking about you again.

  22. blindshooter says:

    Still spending most of my off work hours with my Dad, the defibrillator replacement went well but the rehab is set back a lot.
    Speaking of chicken wire, you can build them to catch muskrats. Same principal just add bait and throw it in a ditch or pond. No hide damage but if they are thick you need to check it regular as they might chew on each other if you have a good catch. Works best in a ditch or real small stream, don’t even have to be completely under water but watch out for trap thieves if you know what I mean…
    I have owned two Mini 14’s in the past one old one and one ranch rifle, they both worked fine but the accuracy was not great. The GB might sell a little better?

    Good work here, no wonder the post counts are growing!

  23. In addition to boxes of pasta, cans of fruits and vegetables, and a couple of large jars of peanut butter, I bought “spares” of my garden shovels, spade, rake, hoe, corn knife, and weed cutter.

  24. WoW! Lots of comments means lots of new people are getting on the band wagon. It is so nice to know that more people are getting their preps together. I don’t even remember, now, how I found this blog; but, I have learned SO much this past 18 months. It took me a couple of weeks to read previous posts and comments because I was taking notes while I was reading. Every once in a while I have to throw in a big thank you to M.D. and everyone who has given me so many ideas and advice and so much encouragement.
    This week, I kept the pressure canner busy by turning 7 #10 cans of cheese sauce from Sam’s into 36 pints and 41 half pints of cheese sauce. Granted, it isn’t the most healthy thing to store; but, with a few hand fulls of any kind of macaroni, it makes a pretty quick hot meal. Having cheese rates right up there with having chocolate for future consumption in this house. Sure wish I could find a way to preserve Diet Pepsi for long term storage.

    • Nancy,

      Thank you for reading and helping others here. You are the blog.

    • Nancy – I really hate to tell you this, but you turned 7 cans of perfectly good cheese sauce into 77 jars of potential botulism poisoning. There is no safe way to home can cheese sauce – or any cheese product, for that matter.

      I’m almost done with an article I will be sending to M.D. on safe home canning for survival. I hope you will read it.

      God bless,
      Opportunity Farm
      Eastern WA

      • OhioPrepper says:

        I respectfully disagree. In order to get botulism poisoning in food, the food must contain active (living) spores of clostridium botulinum. Heating clostridium botulinum to 240 degrees for 4 minutes will kill it. This does not mean that you only pressure process for 4 minutes. You need to process long enough for the entire contents of the jar to reach 240 for at least 4 minutes. Most cheese has a pH in the range of 5 to 6 which is above the boiling water bath pH of 4.6 so it must be pressure canned. Also, the fact that you can purchase canned cheese (in this case in #10 cans) would indicate that cheese may be canned.
        On another note, while double checking my figures I came across this website: http://extension.usu.edu/utah/htm/fcs/food-preservation-canning/usda_home_canning/ which contains links to the pdf documents for the entire USDA canning manual in separate chapters.

        • Thank you, OhioPrepper, for explaining this much more eloquently than I could. I was going to say, also, that the presence of lactic acid, acetic acid, and citric acid make this particular cheese product a good candidate when proper canning procedures are followed to the letter.

          • OhioPrepper says:

            Eloquent? Thanks for the complement. I’m an engineer and my wife usually considers these as just more boring details than are necessary 🙂

        • How do you know if you are canning the cheese or cheese sauce long enough in the absence of proper instructions? Do you know the density of the food? Density isn’t just what is liquid & what is solid – the instructions for canning tomato products had to be changed because it was found to be more dense than they thought. Density changes the time needed in the canner. There is no way to test canned food at home for the presence of botulism toxin.
          Botulism spores are extremely common; they are in the air, dirt, & on our food. There is no way to avoid them.
          If you can show me where there are cheese-canning instructions on the Utah Extension site, I will gladly eat my words & start canning cheese.

          God bless,
          Opportunity Farm
          Eastern WA

          • OhioPrepper says:

            I read the current USDA guides and you are correct about them in that they do not contain cheese canning instructions, nor prohibitions. There is a single mention that dairy products can be canned, but require a pressure canner, with no details.
            The fact however, that we can purchased commercially canned cheese, would indicate that it can be done. This is going to require a little more research than I have time for at the moment, but I will pursue the answer.
            In the mean time, one should probably only can cheese at their own risk.

          • Bonnie & Nancy –
            Ladies, I am looking at breaking a #10 of fruit cocktail into smaller jars. Have not been able to find anything on canning fruit cocktail. Any suggestions? Thanks.

            • Fruit is no problem – high acid, probably a ton of sugar in the syrup (which in an emergency situation can be a good thing). Just look up the individual fruits & use the instructions for the one that takes the longest.

              That’s the rule of thumb for any mixture, whether it be high or low acid.

              I’ve never re-canned fruit – could you report back on whether it ends up mushy from over-processing? Sometimes it’s an issue – sometimes not. Commercially canned fruit seems to be harder than home canned. I think it’s canned less ripe or perhaps tougher varieties.

              God bless,
              Opportunity Farm
              Eastern WA

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      LOL, I hear you about the Diet Pepsi. I am not a diet pepsi fan, but I do like ginger ale. I’ve been trying to wean myself off the stuff. Now I’m storing powdered Gatorade and iced tea mix. Those drinks don’t have the effervescence of ginger ale, but they’ll do in a pinch.

      If you figure out how to can up the Pepsi, please let me know. 😉

      • shotzeedog says:

        In times past people made their own root beer. I think that you can still can do that as I have seen the little bottles of root beer makings at places like Lehman’s. I think it uses yeast to make the effervescence. There may even be one to make ginger ale.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          Ginger ale would probably be fairly easy to make since ginger is (presently) available at most bigger super markets. Your comment reminded me that there is an old fashion-style general store just north of me that might have the fixings for homebrewed pop – thanks for the idea.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          In times past? Wow I feel old 🙂 I used to make it as a kid, and made my last batch probably 5 years ago. You pretty much need the same equipment you need for brewing regular beer, like water base gas traps for the fermentation container. I recall when I was a kid (back in the old days) making a batch of root beer and having my folks bottle it a little too soon. You’re supposed to wait until the fermentation is complete, and in this case it wasn’t quite complete before bottling. The fermentation continued after bottling, creating the carbonization, and about 1/3 of the batch blew off the top halve of the bottles. It was a sticky, messy, learning experience. It’s really pretty simple, with the one key ingredient being cleanliness so as not to contaminate the yeast. A Google search for “making homemade root beer” returns 237,000 results, so I suspect at least one of them could be useful.

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      Nancy……..Could you please tell us how you canned the cheese?And exactly what knid of cheese it is?Thx!

      • Hi Rhonda Sue, just “google” how to pressure can cheese and it will give several articles. The cheese sauce from Sam’s comes in # 10 cans. I dilute the cheese sauce as described on the can label to make it less dense. Following ALL of the standard safety precautions regarding pressure canning, I can it, at least, at 10# of pressure for, at least, 20 minutes. I have a glass top stove which some people say can not be used for canning; but I have had no problems with it, and I watch the pressure VERY carefully. Kathy Harrison, on Just in Case blog, describes how to pressure can cheese. I have pressure canned loads of colby cheese and cream cheese. If you don’t trust it and are afraid to do it, “Don’t Do It”! Save your time and the jars for something else.

        • Rhonda Sue says:

          Thank you,Nancy.I will research it .Having shelf stable cheese would be great.I read Kathys blog too.Small world for us preppers…lol.

        • GardenMom says:

          I have pressure canned on a smooth top stove also – everything was just fine. Great idea – to can cheese in smaller batches. I’m going to try it. Thanks for posting.

      • The guest blogger MD hosted last week has a nice write up on canning cheese. She has a great blog! http://frontierfreedom.blogspot.com/2010/12/canning-cheese.html

    • Waynego18 says:

      How long do you can the cheese?? Great idea!

      • Candy from Nebraska says:

        I will be buying some cheese in a few weeks and give it a try. My family likes cheese to much so I hope it will last.

  25. went to a police auction and bought 3 rifles for $103.00 a couple of minor repairs and refinished the stocks,and now ill bring them with me when i set up at the gun show and ill at least triple my money.(this is how i buy guns i want) i have a picture of two of them on my blog,the third was drying at the time i took the pics. i also bought a car muffler to quiete down my generator and it worked great. it brought the noise level down to a level i think will be hard to pinpoint where its coming from in a shtf situation. my next project will be to build a ventilated sound proof shed sized to fit the generator in. i have a video of the generator on youtube/user/bctruck. i didnt show it running because quite frankly it was to cold outside and im a delicate man.i did however show how it was mounted if anyone is interested in makeing thier generator run quieter.

    • Lake Lili says:

      Went and watched your video on youtube. Nice job! The noise has been my number one reason for us not getting a generator… thanks for giving us the solution to the problem. Look forward to hearing how much the decibel level drops once the shed is built.

      • well i intended to get right on making the shed for the genny,but i DETEST cold !!! being from new england youd think i could handle louisiana winters. it has been uncommonly cold here and more of that white stuff is do to fall in the coming week.

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Interesting video. Also interesting how you can make the modification with a few simple parts & tools. Just for reference the 95 dB level is 10 times the 85 dB level, since dB are a logarithmic function.

      • hmmmmmm,,, im wouldnt say the genny is 10 times quiet. maybe i would say its half as loud as it was. i used a free iphone app to measure DB,so i wouldnt place much faith in anything free.. there is an obvious and quite noticable differance in noise level though.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          Just for reference, half as loud would be 3 dB. Hopefully the app isn’t that far off.

  26. templar knight says:

    MD, go ahead and buy the Mini-14. I bought one many years ago and enjoyed the heck out of it. I traded it for one of the new Mini’s a year or so ago, and found the new one to be even more to my liking. They are more accurate, don’t heat up as much, and have a much smaller night signature.

    This week we stocked up on toilet paper, feminine products, toothpaste and toothbrushes. I also bought 2 lbs. of baking soda, 40 lbs. of salt, 50 lbs. of lime, a salt/mineral block, and fertilizer.

    • Candy from Nebraska says:

      Templer Knight
      It may sound dumb but, I am still new to all of this. What is the lime used for?

      • templar knight says:

        I will use it to treat the waste that accumulates in the outhouse, and I should have said agricultural lime. It can also be used in soil that is too acidic.

        • Candy from Nebraska says:

          Thank You Templer hubby and I had no clue thanks again.

          • templar knight says:


            It’s a shame that we have to comtemplate going backwards in time when it comes to sanitation, but I understand the neccessity of being ready. I have a large tank/pond on my property, and it is very important that I keep the water in it as clean as possible. I have it well stocked with fish, and I will use it for emergency drinking water. I have to make sure the runoff from any human waste does not enter my tank, and I have to make sure the waste is treated, both for health and asthetic reasons.

            Most people, even those who prep, don’t give enough thought to how they will dispose of human waste if the grid goes down. Think of the cholera now spreading in Haiti, and think how it would be here if sewage systems no longer function.

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Candy From Nebraska,
        In lieu of lime, you can use wood ash. If you have a fireplace or a woodstove, save the ash and spread it on the waste. Plus, wood ash is also good for the soil. http://www.humeseeds.com/ashes.htm

        In lean times, it is helpful to know the various uses of everyday things. Ash is one of those things that has several uses. Save your dryer lint, too, if you have a dryer. It can be used to get a fire going, to stuff a pillow, to insulate your shoes (if you have inserts), and probably other things that I haven’t learned yet. We preppers are recyclers by necessity.

        • Candy from Nebraska says:

          I heard of the dryer lint, daughter tried it out on the burn barrel and now she insists on being the one to burn the trash..lol Fine with me I always hated the job.
          No fire place or woodstove as of yet, looking into it for this year. Hubby talking about remodleing some. Our house is all electric and the ice storms a few years back shut power down all around us for weeks and in some towns a cpl months. We were not effected but we don’t want to take any chances.

          • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

            All electric, huh? If Cap & Trade passes, you’ll be paying through the nose for your electricity (all of us will be). If your husband puts in a woodstove, you might want to consider getting one that has a flat top so you can do some cooking on it – like heating a pot of beans, etc. A woodstove can be a good investment.

            Stay warm up there in NE. You must be hardy folks to live there. 😉

            • Candy from Nebraska says:

              He actually does plan on putting in a cook woodstove. My youngest daughter found a fireplace, i guess it is a freestanding one at a yardsale and for my anniversary present bought it for us for $50.00. So now we have to purchase the triple wall tubing and stuff. He know what we are looking for I just don’t know the proper name..lol Cant complain the price was right.
              It has been hitting 45 below with the stupid wind, very tiring.

        • Wood ash is also good for the chicken yard. Chickens fluff themselves in it and it helps keep down “bugs”. I have a large ash pit in the chicken yard for them.

  27. I tested my cold-weather prep in the OKC snow storm.

    I did ok. I almost ran out of salt (from a few ice days prior, and then salting all the areas I shoveled this time).

    I had plenty of cold weather food (which isn’t a necessity issue, but something I like to have).

    I also tried out some new duck boots I got. They are poorly fitting and poorly insulated, but they kept my feet dry. I got them on sale. I think I need to buy a nicer version.

    I have a few notes to remember for nice time. I would like to get a 50 gallon barrel of water, in case of frozen pipes. I would like to get a barrel full of dirt or sand or gravel, to dump on the driveway, and I need to find a way to stay warm if the electricity goes out.

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Kenneth there is a guy on craiglist that comes to OKC once a week with 65gl open top pickle barrels for like $12 a piece. I bought 3 and used a bag of pool shock to clean out the smell and filled them with 55gl and they didnt rupture this week outside in the sub temps.

      • I was going to buy some pool shock a couple weeks ago but I couldn’t figure out what to buy. I don’t have a pool and never have had one.

        Can anyone help?


        • Crazy Stev-o says:

          use pool shock that contains only calcium chlorite

        • Matt in Oklahoma says:

          I only use the pool shock to clean out the pickle smell. I DO NOT USE IT FOR WATER STORAGE!
          Having said that it’s because I have heard a million pool shock theories and not one “survivalist” who has actually used it. I am a firm believer in using/testing what you have to the point of fail. This pool shock water failed right out of the box. Also no one seems to know what the “Other” ingrediants are. I’m not putting it in my body then.
          To your question and off my rant (sorry)I just buy the wallie world brand of whatever to kill the smell then rinse thoroughly.

      • Thanks for that info. That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for.

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Kenneth here is the link

      BTW nice crossed sabres, former Cav?

  28. MotherEarth says:

    First I want to thank MD for the site. When you are the only one preparing, it’s nice to come here and feel “normal” and also for the ideas. I found this site last fall and you all have been a tremendous help on what to do. Didn’t buy much this week, just some more canning lids and baking chocolate, was busy breaking down all the stuff I bought last week and storing it in mylar bags and buckets. And thanks to one of the posts here, I took some big bags and broke them down into smaller bags with the FoodSaver to keep it fresh longer. I am putting together a seed order. Have had a garden for years, but plan on planting more than ever this year and adding another fruit tree to the small orchard. After reading the posts about dehydrated citrus, I went and dug out my lemons I dehydrated last fall and they look fine. The fact that I’m having to “dig” them out tells me my food storage is growing…yeah!

    • MotherEarth,

      We are the ones that are “normal” everyone else is nuts. Anyone seeing everything going on in the world today yet refuses to prepare have to be nuts.

    • Candy from Nebraska says:

      My future son in law thinks we are nuts, but he brings me buckets of corn that he hauls and says that when he starts hauling wheat he will bring me a bunch of that as well. If im so nuts then why bring me a stash…lmao

      • OhioPrepper says:

        Candy from Nebraska,
        He sounds like a smart guy. He may think you’re nuts, but I suspect the grain he brings is a rather inexpensive way to hedge his bets, and assure a BOL if things do go wrong.

  29. nancy (Northwest) says:

    After MDs post last week on winter storms, I quit dragging my feet and ordered a Mr Buddy propane heater. Had looked at them locally, but couldn’t make up my mind. When the temperate gets in the single digits it is not just me that needs an alternate heat source. My water pipes do too.

    Also bought more toilet paper and first aid supplies.

  30. Patriot Farmer says:

    I stocked up on a few winter clothing items. Suprisingly some stores are running sales on winter clothing.

    The mini14 is a great little gun. I have owned them and use them for work. The older models have adequate accuracy out to 150 yards and the new model rival most AR platforms. The mini14 will always shoot. I know of several min14s’ that have hundreds of thousands of rounds through them and are still accurate enough for my co-workers to pass their yearly qualifications.

  31. My girlfriend got a text from her friend in the reserves here in new mexico that basically said, “Natural gas outages across new mexico due to shipping constraints because of weather. Army Reserves have been called to stand by. Civil unrest possible. Stay safe.” Many people’s gas has been turned off to conserve for hospitals etc. I think things have melted a bit so gas trucks should be able to resume their activity. Interesting to get a civil unrest warning though. My gas is still on and my girlfriend has a 300 gal propane tank that was recently filled.

    Ordered my glock 23 gen 4 yesterday!

    Also received Boston’s Gun Bible.

    En route from Amazon are Morrow’s Guide to Knots and SAS Survival Guide.

    Now my things are in serious need of reorganizing and inventory since I’ve acquired a bit lately. Should have time for this next saturday. Snow has been much and temps at -15 here in new mexico at 6500 ft. This has been keeping me indoors except to check my rabbit trap (no luck so far, my trigger seems to be insensitive as the bait is getting robbed). I’m originally a Texas boy and -15 and I just don’t get a long. I’ve acquired some good cold weather gear though. A little more snow is expected in the next couple days. Things should warm up to 30 degrees around, I hear.

    • i sure would like to hear what you think of that gen 4 when you get it. thats likely to be my next purchase if i can can enough positive reviews on it. WHEW!!! -15,,,,, my fingers got cold just typing that!

    • You will definetly love Bostons Gun Bible. I took his advice and bought myself an M1A1 and don’t regret it one bit!

  32. Well due to tags for the car, needing a battery for it, and smogging and dad rotted insurance, plus going to the doctor for my yearly yearly, had to figure and refigure and work out what I could do this month and what I can do next.
    So that left me with just a little budget for prepping.
    So I bought canned goods, 10 lbs of sugar, peanut butter, cocoa, more dry noodly things, kitchen wooden matches, and honey. I would say toilet paper and even though it is extra until I get a boat load of it consider it just regular storeage.

  33. The week was very disorganized due to the ice and now snow. I recall a poster stating everyone else got their snow and they love snow. My friend, you can HAVE it!! 🙂 Took several days to de-ice my SUV without scratching or denting it. I actually stocked up on cold/flu medication. They are now trying to pass a law that makes you have to have a prescription to get any cold medication with pseudoephedrine. I’m sure just about everything else will soon follow, which means cost of dr visit just to get basic cold meds. Getting the food list ready for tomorrow’s outing. Didn’t lose power this week but did realize I too have a lot to get before next winter. It was pathetic to watch people at the grocery store packed into the bread isle for the last loaf of bread before the ice hit. I had gone in to pick up some things for work. I shook my head as I watched so many people scrap for food.
    I think if we don’t start drilling soon for our own oil, we will see similar unrest as Egypt. On a smaller scale of course, but it will be serious. Nothing is improving in our economy. The unemployment rate is not 9%. They’ve stopped counting over 1/2 million people who have given up looking. They are playing the shell game again trying to plan for ’12. It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better… Everyone stay on track.

  34. I have made prepping a hobby. Every week I am doing something that will help our family and friends. This week split wood for next season.
    Ordered two original Kimber 45 mags, seems local stores are out or don’t carry
    Paid down more of loan on land purchased four yeats ago. Within two months will be totally debt free. Purchased jump start for wifes car. Wife purchased thirty cans of soup on sale. Purchased one 500 round 22lr and one box of .308 ammo. Updated wish list on amazon for future prep
    purchases(I budget for future items). Read several blogs on prepping to improve knowledge.

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Hobby you say
      Sounds as though you are living it. Nothing wrong with it as a lifestyle.

  35. button crazy says:

    Received my solar radio and Berkley water filter this week. The snow and ice has keep me at home. Don’t have to go out for food. Having worked on my food storage amounts for the past few months. Have received most of my books that i ordered for gardening and other items. I also received the Heirloom Seeds that i ordered. Have lots of things to learn yet. I am fairly new at this. I have the feeling that by the end of the of 2011, that the nation will be in a bad way. This blog has been a great blog for great knowledge.

  36. Light week for us foodwise, 8 boxes of assorted rice mix, 8 cans tuna and a case of TP. Husband has garden full and growing, now converted a flower bed of patio to veggies. Husband had med/dental checkups, my turn soon. Extra prescription meds.

  37. Busy weekend so far.
    *Put our beans, rice & refried beans in 8 buckets.
    *Bought some honey, flour, yeast, soy sauce, vanilla, brown sugar, canned food, etc for storage.
    *Bought 10 cloth baby diapers and some pins. In case my kids ever need them (for future grandkids) or for barter some day. I figured baby clothes could be handed down, diapers, well, disposables would be gone.
    *Bought 3 or 4 boxes of ammo (sorry guys, don’t know the type, hubby got it).
    *Bought some pepper spray & a vicious taser for our soon to be college daughter.
    *Got 5 gallons of kerosene to store in our barrels.
    *Bought some vetericyn wound care and looked around at the various animal antibiotics.

    Medical needs continue to be a concern of mine and I know that antibiotics will be a life saver if things fall apart. We have 3 doses stored in the fridge that ended up not being needed for one reason or another (we rotate them whenever we get a new identical dose so they don’t expire).

    Does anyone know if animal antibiotics are safe for people? I’ve read that fish tank antibiotics are the exact same thing. Any info on medical herbs would help too.

    • I just LOVE this weekly column! After my post I went through all the rest (got some great ideas) but also got the answer to my question. Someone posted that they watched the Patriot Nurse’s You Tube Videos – she has one on antibiotics – and if you pay close attention you’ll see a source & an answer to my question!


    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      GA Mom, this blog has a list of Categories that include “Medical” and which may help you learn about veterinary medicines and human usage of them. Just look over in the lefthand margin, scroll down to Categories and then look for “Medical.” You’ll find info there.

    • There are several articles about animal vs people medications at http://armageddonmedicine.net/ which is blogged by a real MD. I personally will be willing to use medications labeled for horses & felines, as I’ve been told they have fewer impurities than meds for canines & other livestock, but only if meds intended for humans aren’t available.

      • (When I said “a real MD” I meant “a licensed medical doctor” and certainly no disrespect to M.D. Creekmore! I work for a hospital, so I’m used to using medical shorthand.)

  38. Trawled the “thrift stores” and found one of those “Yuppie” colored, Stainless Steel water bottles, new never used for a whole .99 cents. Next door at Wally World they were $8. Good to boil questionable water in, it’s now part of my EDC bag. Picked up a 5 gallon collapsible water container that’s going to be used to make a back woods “washing machine” for my Bug out bag. Got a Mag match, and two Nite Ize intelligent tail cap switches for the two AA mini Mag Lites at Harbor Freight. I’m going to get two TerraLUX 140 lume (versus the 16 lumes of a stock Maglite), LED upgrade kit next paycheck. That’ll update my fleet of old favorite lights.

    • I went to the local thrift store as well and found a one gallon glass jug for $2. I was thrilled at such a find– the elderly lady at the counter that checked me out was interested in it as well. I am not sure what I’ll use it for but it will work to store something.

  39. GardenMom says:

    Received our Berkey, set it up and started using it. Water tastes great. Bought some groceries on sale – canned sliced potatoes, brown and white rice, oatmeal, rice and soy milk. Organized puzzles and other pastime activities in one storage box.
    When I first found this site, I thought this was a brillant idea – sharing what we have done each week. Very inspiring.

  40. Well this week I received the following from Amazon:

    100′ foliage green 550 cord
    1 box of Burn Jel
    3 boxes (25 packs in each) of the triple antibiotic ointment in the small (.5 oz) size
    10 5 gallon mylar bags with oxygen absorbers (realized later I should have purchased the 1 gallon size instead but these will be used)
    1 5×5 Quik Clot bandage
    1 3.5 x 3.5 Quik Clot bandage
    1 package of Celox with 10 2g individual packages

    Realized I have first aid kits that are mostly band-aids and some larger bandages. I need a med kit. Not field surgery, just something more robust than what I have. What I’ve seen online, I don’t like. I’ll have to build it myself.

    We had black ice all over the place here just ‘south’ of the Texas Hill Country on Friday. But it was all melted before noon. It’s still cold but not like it was thank God. Hope you all stay warm and dry.

    • kerrville? juction? fredricksburg? love it out there. great motorcycle riding country.

      • bctruck,

        Think a little more to the SE and remember in Texas when someone says ‘just South’ that usually means quite a bit farther than it would to someone else LOL 😀

        Ya know, kinda like someone from out of state asking for directions and you tell them, ‘Oh yeah, that’s not far at all. It’s just over yonder.’ Where ‘over yonder’ could be 2 hours away!


  41. OhioPrepper says:

    This week I only acquired one item to replace the pocket knife in my EDC. The Camillus Blaze Robo assisted folding knife is a little smaller than the one I currently carry, and has an easier mechanism for one-hand opening. It works essentially the same as my rescue knife. The current knife goes into one of the BOBs. Other than that, my spare time this past week was spent doing an inventory on the preps, sorting through a bunch of bookshelves and other stacks of stuff, and thinning all of it out a bit. Also did some work on my taxes, not fun; but a necessary evil.

  42. This week was a weird week due to the ice / snow / rolling blackouts here in central texas. But I ahve to say, having been prepping now for several months, didn’t have to worry about going to the store! It was a great feeling. That being said, the blackouts revealed we need to add to our emergency lighting, need to get more wood among other things.

    Ordered 1200 rounds of 5.56 to add to the stash, some extra mags for my AR and Sig (Brownells has theirs on sale), put back some canned food and continued to organize our pantry.

  43. I bought some pasta for storage, not allot but this is a week before payday and we had a couple of unexpected expenses.I saw a buddy of mine from my powerwagon friends. He encouraged me to come to this years rally even if I can`t bring my powerwagon this year. powerwagons are great trucks any year powerwagon for that matter. hoping to make it this year. Steve

  44. I am currently working on my barn on my farm. I am trying to install a small bathroom and what would be living quarters. My house is about 7 miles away and the soil there is not as rich as at my farm. If TSHTF I plan on moving myself and family there. We will be able to be self sustained as also my tractor and farming apparatus is there.

  45. Nor Cal Ray says:

    First of all congratulations on being #3 on the top 50 Survival sites list.
    Went to Costco and picked up (2) 36 Roll Pkgs. T.P., 1 Case Spam and a 20 Pk. of Irish Spring Soap.
    Picked up 10 more rolls of Nickles.
    Traded a Fishing rod for 1 Box 50rds. .22lr Ammo, 2 boxes .223 Ammo 20 rds. each,1 Box 20rds. .30/06 Remington 165grn.PSP Hunting Ammo, 4 Boxes .45 acp Ammo 50 rds. each, and 1 pkg. of 3 Broadheads for the compound bow, 5 Spare Clips for the 760. Went to Borders Books and picked up Dr’s. Book of Home Remedies, Bug Out, and Carla Emery’s Encyclopedia of Country Living.
    Next stop was the LDS warehouse in Sac. where I picked up:
    50 lbs. Red Wheat, 50 lbs.White Wheat, 50lbs.Powdered Milk, and a 100pk. of Oxygen Absorbers.
    Picked up 3 Mayday 72 hr kits to supplement car emergency kits for wife and myself.

    • Just curious, because I’ve seen folks mention “rolls of Nickels” elsewhere on the web… what’s the motivation behind specifically having rolls of nickels? Is there a certain date your looking for, for the silver content? Or, is there something else?

      • Matt in Oklahoma says:

        JRW says to get nickels because they cost 6 cents to make and are more valuable because of the metal content. He says soon they will change the metal in them making old nickels more valuable. I dunno

        • OhioPrepper says:

          Basically, at the current price of metals, Nickels are worth more for the nickel metal content than $0.05. Likewise, pennies prior to 1982 are worth about double the $0.01 face value. It is currently illegal to melt them for their metal content; however, the same was true for pre-1965 dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars, which contained 90% silver and are currently worth significantly more than their face value. Most of the silver coins are no longer in circulation because they are either being kept for their silver value, or have been melted for the silver content.

      • Mark, I haven’t seen a price if a week or so but last time I looked the nickle in an ordinary Nickle coin was worth about 6 1/2 cents. Some of the pre 60 nickles have some silver in them but just an ordinary nickle in circulation right now is worth more than it’s face value and you can buy them at the bank or from a local store for face value.

      • Nor Cal Ray says:

        Mark, asof right now the melt value of nickles is a little over 7 cents each. The treasury is going to be changing the metal content of nickles sometime this year. When they do that the value of the nickle will be less than a nickle. Go to http://www.coinflation.com and you will be able to see the melt value of all the U.S. COINS as of now. The U.S. “silver & gold tone ” dollars are about .17 cents each. Pre 1982 pennies are 3 cents and nickles are 7 cents.

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Mark, it’s all about Gresham’s Law, which I’ve linked for you.

  46. We got hit with a really cold snap this past week like everybody else, but because of our location, our cold snap hit a low of -38 for the actual temperature and below -50 for the windchill. I did get to test some backup heat sources and really found out how much more insulation we need to put in our home come spring!

    I watched all of ThePatriotNurse videos on youtube this week and made a list of all the items she went over that need to be in your first aid kit. I found several of the things I needed at our local dollar store so I was able to get a good start on that. I also added more beans to the stores, as well as soap and other household items.

    I also spent much of the week watching in dismay at how ill prepared my friends and family living in Indiana were for the ice storm and subsequent power outages. I keep in touch with everyone via Facebook as I now live in Wyoming and I was amazed at the number of them that were posting to say that their power was out by using their cell phones. I have to say that if my power were to go out and I had no idea when it would be back on because of the huge number of people that the power companies were taking care of, I am pretty sure that I would not be using my only means of communication with the outside world to post status updates and hold conversations on Facebook. Most of the area was under a no driving order and only emergency vehicles were allowed on the road. Prior to the storm the grocery stores were hit hard and I saw lots of pictures posted of empty store shelves.

    One of the posts I read that really bothered me was from a friend that has herself and two young children in the house. She posted this on the third day they were trapped at home. Here is a copy and paste of her message: “Thank goodness for pizza delivery!!! I wasn’t well prepared for this storm, but we had enough food to last until tonight. It was just me and the kids…I went to start the van and move it and it is stuck in our driveway, so I ordered out.” I cannot imagine not having enough food in my home to last a month, let alone only three days! I was horrified by this.

    Another thing that I saw a lot of was people leaving their homes and going to a hotel because their power was out. My own mother was one of these and she went without letting me know. I spent an entire evening calling her repeatedly leaving ever more increasingly frantic voice mails because I had no idea where she was, knew her power was on because I got her answering machine, and I knew that the roads were closed, yet was getting no answer. Once she finally came home and got back with me, she let me know that she had gone to the hotel because the power was out to the water pump that supplies the town she lives in, so she had no water. None at all. Not a single drop in her home. Needless to say, my mother received a lecture for not having at least filled up the two 5 gallon containers that I left with her when I moved.

    I wanted to say so many things to all my friends to tell them that they really needed to be more prepared for this sort of thing, but because of OPSEC I kept my mouth shut. My own mother is a different story, however. She knows about my preps and spent 10 years married to my father who has always done extensive prepping. Some people, no matter how hard you try, just aren’t going to listen. All I can do at this point is hope that, when the time comes, she can manage to make the 18 hour drive to my home.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      That’s an amazing story–so many people caught unprepared despite the warnings that went out in advance of the weather. Your mom should know better, she’s probably old enough to have seen and/or lived through other disasters.

      Seriously, she’ll never make it to your place when the drive is 18 hours in good times. Imagine bad times, lack of gasoline, gangs, blocked roads. Nope, she’s either going to have to move closer or learn to prep for herself. Maybe the new storm headed in later today will be the final wake-up call she needs in order to get the message. For her sake and yours, I hope so.

      • Tigerlily says:

        I’m not counting on her making it on her own either. What I am hoping for is that my best friend, who is made of a little bit stronger stuff, can get her here. My brother’s house is exactly in between, so they at least have a safe stopping point in the middle. He is in a suburb, though, so I’m hoping he’s far enough away from the center of town to keep them all safe long enough to make it to the middle of nowhere with me. The best friend is a doctor, also, so she will be very handy to have around!

  47. 10 lbs. white rice, 5 lbs whole coffee beans, 5 lbs cornmeal, 4 lbs. brown rice, steel cut oats, assorted canned vegies, vacuum packed rolled oats, instant oatmeal, sprouting seeds, soy flour, herbal teas, canned salmon, toothbrush replacement heads, food saver bags, cereal, vinegar
    Thrift store finds: “Diet For a Small Planet” cookbook (in the event we have to go vegetarian), large stainless canister, stainless steamer insert, medium sized Igloo cooler (only $3) for the back of the car
    Cleaned out a closet in preparation for long term storage reorganization.

  48. I think this is possibly one of my favorite parts of the blog – seeing what everyone else has done over the past week. Thanks to everyone for sharing, and thanks to MD for providing the forum. Great stuff from everyone!

    – We added more food to our pantry; primarily canned items and some boxed stuff. Our first goal is a solid one-month supply of the food we normally eat. We’ll continue to build from there…

    – Still collecting our “most essential” documents, though we’re making solid progress. I began to prepare advanced medical directives, wills, and revocable trust for our family.

    – Filled both 5 gallon gas cans and stabilized the fuel just before the ice moved through. Topped-off both cars with gas just before the price spike on Friday – saved $0.20/gallons.

    – Our first-aid kit for the house is mostly complete. I still would like to add a suture kit and some additional meds. The first-aid kits in the cars are finally identically supplied.

    – I took a few days to AVOID this website… Since we’re still quite new to all of this, and as much as I THOROUGHLY ENJOY this blog, there’s still quite a bit of information-overload. We don’t want to burn out or loose sight on the fact that there’s still A LOT of good things happening around us. It’s not all doom-n-gloom.

    Thanks, gang!

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      “It’s not all doom-n-gloom.”
      I couldn’t agree more and remember it is important to live and enjoy and breathe.

  49. I bought some mini e-rations for my “get home” kit and to leave in my desk at work if I’m trapped there for a day or two. My helpful teenager (who is a bit too hyper about expiration dates) tossed half the stuff in the freezer, so I bought some whole chickens & dismembered them for future meals, as well as other meat to freeze. Got some more pet food & toilet tissue stocked, too (but need lots more of both). Did more research on what I’ll be growing in the garden this year, hopefully will be a much better harvest than last year’s disappointment. Also got a dozen small brown-glass bottles to start storing harvested herbs, as one of my goals in the next few years is to wean off prescription meds (as it’s safe & possible to do) and replace with herbal medications. Bought a couple of large organizer chests (watertight, with sliding drawers) from my friend’s military surplus shop, with the intention of using it to organize medicinal herbs & other medical supplies. Printed out a bunch of inventory sheets for taking inventory of exactly what canned & dry goods food we currently have, so we can fill in the items we’re low on. Ordered a mini greenhouse and a meal saver vacuum sealer. Got our toiletries/first aid closet organized and wrote a shopping list of what’s lacking there (I had no idea we go through band-aids so fast! Gotta be the teenager’s fault…). It’s been a busy week but I’ve been slacking in recent weeks, and considering all the scary stuff in the news, I wanted to pick up the pace.

  50. Dean in Michigan says:

    Haven’t done anything this week. Can’t seem to get much of a break from the snow plowing duties.

    You could not have said it better MD. If people don’t see what’s going on in the world today, and realize they need to be prepared, then maybe they just can’t be helped.

    Much of Australia is flooded, and plow drivers in the northeast have all but run out of places to put snow. They are actually dumping it into unfrozen rivers, along with all the pollutants that were scraped up from the road. It will be interesting to see what their water quality will be like in the spring.

  51. highdesertlivin says:

    Well simba talked about the gas shortage , resulting in possible elec. shortages in New Mexico . I had to leave home ( my prepped home ) to take care nof my mother who had paSSed , My wife called telling me about the situation . Suddenly she appreciated that I had kerosene lamps ,fuel , wood stove fuel ,ect . I told her that if any thing went down I would go home . Then my parents in the event of the balloon going up in my absence . So in seattle I was looking at what I had on My person that could travel through airline security. .To live and make it to my family . At least I had a plan , and a fleace vest ,fleace jacket , a carhart arctic gear jacket , hat gloves , 500. cash oz and a tenth of gold ,knive 2lighters , some calories , and a headlamp.Im home now but made me think ……I had some stuff , and a plan . Iwould have made it home.Oh case of peached , Case of tuna, some candy., good luck

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Sorry about your mom’s passing. I bet your wife was scared without you, but you had the house prepped, so she must have really appreciated all your earlier prepping efforts when the storm arrived. Good work, highdesertlivin.

      Did your wife tell you if there were any areas in your preps that could use some work? Just wondering if the storm was a good “dress researsal” for the real deal.

  52. Ridge Runner says:

    First off, thank you M.D. and everyone for your thought provoking posts. This weekly column is highly motivational.

    Sat down with my wife this week and had a long talk about survival in general and our plans specifically. It’s so vital that everyone in the family be on the same page in this regard. I am grateful for how supportive Cathy has been with all the recent preparations I’ve been making. I’m trying to keep things gradual and within reason, but there does seem to be a renewed sense of urgency and it does get expensive. The dog will probably just follow the food and then continue ruling our lives from behind the scenes as usual. Also spoke with one of our neighbors about his family’s preparedness status. Turns out he’s also one of us “crazed survivalist types” which is comforting.

    – Peanut butter
    – Spices
    – Trauma bandages
    – Surgical tape
    – Tooth brushes
    – Freeze dried coffee (not great but the buzz is the same)
    – New strings for the banjo (good defensive weapon)

    – 30 gal closed head steel drums – http://m.globalindustrial.com/m/
    – pressure canners – http://www.allamericancanner.com/

    Everybody have a good week…

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      You might save a good bit of money on drums if you go to your local feed store and pick up 30 or 55 gallon plastic used drums, depends on what you want to use them for. These are food grade plastic drums used for syrup etc and with a little clean up can hold water just fine. Much cheaper, I picked mine up for $12 each (I think, anyway, much cheaper than the prices for new). A lot of feed stores sell them so that horse/cattle owners can cut them in half lengthwise to use as feeders/waterers. If you have a cola bottling plant nearby, same story, they might sell you some inexpensively. Ensure whatever you get was used for food products and not something else, such as industrial chemicals…

      • Ridge Runner says:

        Thanks AZ but I need steel. Planning to store a small amount of gasoline for the genset. Was reading some regs about above ground fuel storage and anything 55 gal or more and you start getting into all kinds of regulations and potential inspections. Primarily concerned with doing anything which might nullify my fire insurance. Did some shopping around and most places that advertise 30 gal drums are out. Wonder why? 😉

        • AZ rookie prepper says:

          Ridge Runner, might try some out of the box thinking if no 30 gln drums available. How about used gas tanks from a car junk yard? Probably not very nice looking, but would hold the fuel. Might not work with the fire insurance too, just an idea. Would the regulations cover “capacity” or “actual” amounts of fuel stored? Could use 55 gln drums with only 30 glns fuel each. My backup is my RV fuel tank (75 glns) with a gennie built in. Short term use only because if the SHTF, will only get me to the point of everyone else being out of fuel too. Best of luck finding your drums, let us all know how you make out.

          • Sheri (Indiana) says:

            AZ – I was actually wanting to get a fuel storage unit that I could bury. I know I would have to get a pump system of some sort due to gravity, but I don’t want it out in the open. Have you ever known anyone to bury the car gas tank? I’m sure I will have to check the local laws but I thought I would ask while the subject was here. Much appreciated 🙂

            • AZ rookie prepper says:

              Sheri (Indiana), Dont think I would bury a car gas tank, they are not designed for that. I could easily see rust and condensation problems with burying a car fuel tank. For a permanent gas storage solution, I would look to a farm implement supply company, or storage tank company. Go with the best quality you can afford. My earlier comments were sort of “wandering through the maze of potential solutions” type thinking. Burying a tank to hold your fuel is fine, but consider other issues, if it leaks, will that contaminate your drinking water supply? Damage nearby food crops? I have wrestled with some of these same issues too, my final answer….a bicycle. 🙂 I have nothing against auto’s, drive an F-250, just have some currently unsolved prob’s with fuel storage.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          The regulation must be local or state. I have a 125 gallon on farm tank on a pedestal tall enough to gravity feed the fuel, there have been no issues. It is however outside, freestanding and not parked up next to the house.

          • I think there is a federal law that requires all direct burial liquid fuel tanks to be double walled, specially designed tanks so that no fuel leaks into the ground. It’s not like the old days when you just burried a 550 gal tank and went about your business. Underground burial is generally a good thing because the temperature is more or less stable year round if you put about 3 or 4 feet of dirt over it, depending on location.

    • Inetesting nickname… I knew a guy from Illinois that used to go by that. Even had rdgrunr on his license plates.

      • Ridge Runner says:

        Actually my first name is Ridge, and sorry not from Illinois. Well… not sorry this time of year.

    • Are you saying that banjo is a good defensive weapon because your playing is so frightful? You’ll just stand on your porch and strum out Chicken In The Straw, and the zombies will run screaming? : )

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Um, isn’t it TURKEY in the Straw? But, hey, if Chicken works better for you, then who am I to judge? LOL 🙂

      • Ridge Runner says:

        Ever pick up a banjo? Darn things weigh about 30 lbs. There’s a joke about banjos (one of many) which goes:

        Q: “Why do most folks take an instant dislike to banjo music?”
        A: “Saves time in the long run.”

        They also make people nervous in a river setting.

        • AZ rookie prepper says:

          Ridge Runner, thanks for the humor. Made my day better.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          Sent this to a friend who plays banjo and he replied with another:

          What do you say to a banjo player with an attractive woman on his arm?

          Nice tatto!

          • nobodyssister says:

            What do you say to a banjo player in a three-piece suit?

            “Will the defendant please rise?”

  53. Luddite Jean says:

    Bought a Blue Point multitool from eBay – very nice quality. The local supermarket was clearing out bread mixes for 54p so I bought the lot. Stocked up on fresh chicken for the freezer as the food place was warning that prices will go up next week due to a doubling in the price of chicken feed.

    Got another piece of silver from eBay at a good price.

    I bought a a stack of 29p seed packets. Radishes, spring onions, spinach, aubergines, ridge cucumbers, tomatoes, nasturtiums (pretty flowers AND good to eat), courgettes, pumpkins, lettuce, lots of herbs (culinary ones), mustard cress, and some bigger packets (49p) with various beans and peas.

    Very busy, so other purchases were just replacing items in my store.

  54. SrvivlSally says:

    Did not get a lot done this week as I have been on the road a bit. Last night I watched a video entitled Islam Rising and it was a good one. It is not for children to see because there were a few spots where a female was shot, won’t say where on her person, a man was beheaded, all in the name of their god. Would have been a bit disturbing had I not had the stomach. Going to give it to a friend and then send it off to my sister as we have just recently introduced her to what is going on with this group that intends to dominate the entire planet. One of the individuals from over there said something to the effect that they have done this before and are going to do it again. Kind of reminds me of Lucifer and when he offered up all of the kingdoms of the world to Jesus, providing he would bow down and worship him. There was a lot of interesting information on the video and was worth watching. Those people are not messing around and they do not have good intentions toward the world. I know I will be working on trying to survive what may well come soon.

    • Indeed! Just remember, self-defense includes profiling.

      • I politely, yet strongly disagree. There are–as with any organized religion–many fanatic Islamic fundamentalists. These individuals are violent and guided by delusional (or politically manipulative) leaders. However, most of the Muslim world disagrees with these relative few.

        I know many American Muslims who are just as outraged by Islamic terrorism as any other citizen of any religious orientation.

        Of course, profiling is used in self-defense (or at least caution) everyday, myself included. We are all likely to suspect the older man with a cane much less than the teenager with baggy pants, chains, and extremely dilated pupils. But to base profiling on religion or even appearance of religious affiliation is very much the wrong approach.

        Remember, many Christians have based their horrible acts on their religious convictions as well (David Koresh, Ron and Dan Lafferty, Ku Klux Klan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convicted_religious_leaders). It is up to us as individuals to know where we stand amidst all the propaganda swirling around us, and to think critically for ourselves.

        I do not mean to offend anyone but do feel the need to express this opinion. If we’re going to call ourselves ‘good guys,’ then we must actually be ‘good guys’ and this means being fair.

        • Tigerlily says:

          I completely agree, Simba. My best friend’s children are the result of her marriage to a man from the middle east and as a result they have not always been treated well. Her oldest was around 7 or 8 when 911 happened and he was drug into the bathroom at school by a group of other children and beaten severely because “his people” did that. The boy is a Catholic. Don’t judge based on appearance because you may miss out on some great people because of it.

        • Simb, I appreciate your comments but disagree completely. Our property is fenced, gated, and well marked. My property, my rules. What some call religion, I call a cult and my belief is based on quite a bit of research and now, current events. “Fair” doesn’t enter into the picture whatsoever if the SHTF. I’ll leave it at that.

          • I simply believe that your approach is a bit overgeneralized. My enemies are those who directly mean me harm. No more. No less. My enemiese are definitely not those who simply physically resemble those who mean me harm. My experience has taught me that such people are even likely to be my friends. Now, I don’t blindly trust anyone, but I won’t blindly ostracize them either. Like food stores, defense weapons, gardening skills, building skills, power and gas supply, tools, etc., a neighbor/friend can also mean the difference between life or death in a survival situation and I won’t eliminate someone from that possibility because of no more than their religious affiliation. Like I said, simply my opinion.


            • LOL….Simba, my “approach” is based on several factors, one being that I live in the country. There are no “911” responders out here, so it’s me or it’s an intruder. Anyone on my property has knowingly hopped the fence and trespassed. What reason would anyone be on my property except for poaching, theft, or assault? I have been robbed at gunpoint in DC and was with 5 others. Our home was robbed a few years ago while everyone was away (daytime). I’ll never be a victim again so third time’s a charm. Being into a survival mode means that you are mentally prepared as well as physically prepared for any potential danger. It takes training and conditioning to get to this point. Looks to me like there are some here who aren’t at the point where they will protect and defend — it’s your life, your choice. Here, I’m locked and loaded. An intruder has only one intention and I’m not stopping to ask. I am at the ready.

        • really? if most muslims are against the violence of the radicals why are they not loudly speaking out against them?if they are a majority they will drown out the radicals….no,i believe the so-called non-radicals are not bothered much by the violence of the radicals.i have never had a problem speaking out against people like tim mcveigh who use christianity to justify their actions…

          • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

            Right on, don. The “moderate” muslims don’t say a word against their radical brethren. Why is that? Because they love America so much? Not hardly. Sorry Simba, but lack of profiling could get you killed.

            We all profile to some extent in some situations. It is common sense and human nature to do so.

            And as far as being “the good guys,” does that mean we have to allow radicals to kill us? I don’t think so.

          • @Lynn: Everything described above has nothing to do with profiling, so I don’t understand. You fence your property, you have defenses ready, and any unreasonable trespassers are highly suspect. Of course. I’m locked and loaded as well. I know about watching my back. Brutal violence was almost the norm at my high school, kids with broken jaws, fights, attacks, etc. But perpetrators came in all shapes, colors, sizes, family backgrounds, and religions. I made it out in one piece without drawing a single instance of violence in which I was personally involved simply by being alert and diplomatic. Now, in grad school, I walk home from school in my small rural town (though riddled with drug traffick and thugs) as late as 3:00 am on occasion and most definitely am more alert than when walking around town during the day. The people at night aren’t usually clean, move slow, and are generally creepy. Is this profiling? Yes. But to say that anyone belonging to a group of several hundred million can be counted on to be violent is absurd.

            Social and cultural psychological research has shown that there are more differences between people of the same culture than between cultures themselves. Every group has its assholes and its saints. Holding an entire population responsible for a few people’s horrible acts and opinions is unjust and could end up costing you a friend as well.

            I know many Muslims personally who I would have never even known they were Muslim if they hadn’t told me. You know, there are White, American, Western-dressed citizens who are Muslim as well. Would you recognize them by profiling?

            @Don: I know many Muslims who speak out to defend their peaceful religion from the reputation sparked by the few radicals. Remember, Islam has no where near the population numbers in America as Christianity and if you want to hear them you won’t be able to turn on any major news channel on any day.

            I sincerely hope you all never make the mistake of trusting a criminal because they are well-dressed, White, upper midde-class and Christian. For me, everyone must earn my trust, regardless of group affiliation.

            I would also like to say that this discussion inspired me to visit Lynn’s blog site at which I found a very useful step-by-step video on storing food in mylar bags which I’ve never done before. I already knew the process was simple enough, but seeing it done with everything laid out plain and simple was very helpful. Thanks.

            • Simba, Glad you found the Mylar video helpful (don’t know who the YouTuber was but I found the video to be fairly well presented). On security, your assessment is correct — we have tried to secure our place and it doesn’t involve profiling. My original comment was more of a cynical one (but a true one). You wrote, “But perpetrators came in all shapes, colors, sizes, family backgrounds, and religions.” Spot on, but a desperate druggie, completely unpredictable and wild, should be a top concern. No amount of diplomacy will work. Of course people know that Muslim converts come in all shapes and sizes, but when the majority of Muslims originate from the MidEast, profiling is fairly easy to do and I have no issue with making a pre-determined assessment (nor should TSA/DHS). To say that Muslims are to be trusted, I will continue to disagree. There has been no substantiation to prove the cult is trustworthy. The social and cultural research you mention is of no merit from where I sit (no sources, studies, or specifics). The issues that Muslims have created with their presence in Western nations is problematic, though. Just yesterday, England’s PM spoke of the failure of Muslims assimilating in England. Only 2 months ago, German’s PM publicly decried the same problem with Muslims not assimilating in Germany. While these political statements may appear to be controversial, these political leaders evidently have statistical information to prove that the Muslim culture is creating problems in their countries. The reality is that the Muslim population does not want to assimilate in the Western nations — they push their culture and cult onto other nations, plotting the subtle and eventual takeover of religious-based societies with their Sharia law and their Muslim cult. This subversive tactic does indicate Muslims are the enemy of the State.

            • Luddite Jean says:

              Simba, I know many Muslims personally who say they are anti the ‘extremists’ because of the effect it has on them.

              Not because it’s wrong. Not because it’s against what is commanded in the Koran (which it’s not). Not because of the misery it brings.

              No, because it affects them. Muslims seem to be able to turn anything into victimhood.

          • OhioPrepper says:

            To be fair about this you must acknowledge that Timothy McVeigh did not have supporter who would hunt you down a kill you for opposing him. I suspect that is part of the issue and further suspect that it’s the issues of some publishers whistling in the dark about this subject. Many on the left are naïve, but I suspect than many are also cowards.

            • actually, i would not admit there are not radical christians out there who will not hunt you down and kill you because you disagree with them.for example,they think it is perfectly ok to murder abortion doctors even though what those doctors do is illegal,if immoral.i will reiterate,if the “moderate” muslims do not speak out against the radicals then they are just as bad in my eyes.but really, what can i expect from a religion founded by a man who was a child molester and robber of caravans…to say nothing of a man who murdered people who refused to convert by force.say what you will about crusaders etc. who perverted christianity to do what they did…they were not the founders of the religion.

            • templar knight says:

              And that is the real point here, Ohio Prepper. Timothy McVeigh was a nut, pure and simple, and was seen as such. And to get the facts straight, he never claimed to be a Christian, or to be acting on behalf of Christians. And no Christian I know or heard of approved his actions.

              Meanwhile, the facts of the matter are these. Christians do not have their religious leaders(the Pope, Billy Graham) telling them to go out and commit violent jihad.

              The Imams, and especially the most influential one at a university in Egypt, has recently issued an opinion that offensive jihad is to be used against the West and her people, thereby obsolving the murderers from punishment in Muslim lands. It reminds me of the Muslim conquests of the 7th C. Yes, the war against Christians that preceded the Crusades by several hundred years, including the conquest of the Holy Land, all of No. Africa, Spain and much of the Byzantine Empire, all Christian lands devastated long before the Crusades were ever thought of.

              It seems that most in this country are totally ignorant of our history. This is just more evidence of the dumbing down of Americans, and I’m not surprised given the poor performance of our public schools.

              This political correctness we have to endure will destroy us. Granny has to be strip searched while the flying imams are rewarded in the thousands of dollars for scaring the crap out of people. Really, I’m sick of it.

            • OhioPrepper says:

              templar knight ,
              I concur. My point was that those who do speak out against the violence or Islam itself are targeted, and in some cases killed. A good example is Salman Rushdie, whose book The Satanic Verses had in either in hiding or with a security detail for years. You must not only have the will to speak out, but also the bravery to do so, in the potential face of violence. Too many sheep and not enough sheepdogs, but I sense that this is slowly changing.
              As for the history of interactions with Islam, see the video link in my post below. It’s less than 2 minutes long and sums it all up pretty well.

            • OhioPrepper says:

              I’m not sure I know what made him a “child molester “. Can you elighten me?
              As for the mirder of infidels (any non-muslim) I understand that point.

        • Lorenzo Poe says:

          There you go. They are all listed. Every Christian radical. Not enough bytes to list all mussleman radicals

    • axelsteve says:

      I remember Satan being called beeazelbub(or something like that) And that word translated to king of the dungheap.That is what satan and his system is. Steve

      • I agree with Simba, but I certainly don’t fault LynnS for her views. Radicalism is fueled by circumstance – the poorer, the hungrier, the more desperate people get, the more they’re going to listen to the guy telling them who they can blame for their plight – whether it be Mubarak, the U.S., the Jews – all of the above – that’s the message a lot in the middle east are getting. That being said, I’m not going to peg every person I see who appears to be of arabic or persian descent as someone who wants to behead me, but I’m not going to vacation in the middle east any time soon either.

        • Luddite Jean says:

          I’m sorry, Zack, but in the case of Islam, radicalism is fuelled by the Koran. Bin Laden, the underpants bomber and many others were actually very wealthy.

          Islam is NOT a religion, it’s a complete ideology, and its whole basis is that there will be peace when the whole world follows Islam – including conversions at the point of a sword. THAT is what Islamic leaders are working towards. Mohammed was not a great religious leader, he was a warlord, a paedophile, a rapist and a robber and Muslims are taught to follow him as the ‘perfect man’.

          Islam is so all-controlling, there are rules for every tiny facet of life, right down to toilet behaviour (not allowed to talk, mustn’t sit down, not use TP, not face Mecca and more). In the morning you must expel satan from your nose. Want to leave Islam? You can, but the penalty is death. There are even rules for behaviour in foreign lands – you might want to Google ‘taqqiya’ and ‘kitman’ to get an idea of why your Muslim neighbours are so nice. Your neighbours may even be genuinely nice people, but when push comes to shove, they are Muslims first, and the best you can hope for is that they won’t actively act against you. Even if they don’t like it, they will not aid you if their leaders have told them otherwise. There is far, far more than I can ever go into in one comment, but I’ve been studying Islam for some four years now – and it ain’t pretty.

          The last category are the ones who aren’t really Muslim, but call themselves so because they were born Muslim – a sort of secular Muslim. I have Persian acquaintances who fall into this category. Notably they call themselves ‘Persian’, not ‘Iranian’. These are the good guys – but if forced, you can bet your bottom dollar most will not be on your side.

          • You’ve got it right, Sister! And if Americans don’t begin to understand Sharia Law, it may be implemented across our Nation, just as they have been planning for it to.

          • AZ rookie prepper says:

            Have to agree with Luddite Jean. Be very cautious about trusting muslims beyond a certain point. Just as you would be careful with other “types” of people, we humans categorize and file away information about others for all kinds of reasons, its the motive behind those categorizations that make the difference. Add in emotions, and certain “categories” get the short shrift. There is a huge difference between “hate” and “caution” when dealing with others. Hate takes you down some bad paths….caution keeps your butt alive when its a TEOTWAWKI scenario. I’ve met and worked with many muslims during my 20+ years in the army, and its my job to “assess” people, leave it at that. Other than the (very few) “secular” muslims, practising muslims have their bread buttered differently than we do, take that for what its worth when choosing to include them or not in your planning.

          • OhioPrepper says:

            Luddite Jean,
            Being a generally nice guy, who likes to give the benefit of doubt to people I don’t know, would like to disagree with you; however, I too have studied this philosophy, and you are unfortunately CORRECT.
            There is a gentleman named Lt. Colonel West who was commanding troops in Iraq. He had several of his men snatched, and an interrogator was trying to find out the location from a captured insurgent. Getting nowhere, Col West entered the room and fired a shot, informing the man that the next would not miss. He gained the required information, sent a team to get his men back, and then filed a report with his chain of command. He retired and ran for congress in Florida. The Tea Party republican was elected easily. I site all of this information as in introduction to the enclosed link to a short video of Col West who knows a lot more about the subject than I. It is worth watching. BTW, if Col West ever shows up in my neck of the woods, my friends and I have agreed that his money is no good. The drinks are on us , for a real stand up guy.

            • Iowa Oscar says:

              Thanks OhioPrepper for the link. This is a man to watch, learn from and support.
              This is a real hot button topic to me. I don’t want to sound like I’m piling on, but I don’t understand why I’m constantly being told (usually by left leaning main stream media types) that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving, gentle individuals, that mean me no harm. That it is only a few radical individuals that are causing all the trouble. Why is it so inconceivable that the vast majority actually believe in the idea of total Islamic domination. That for more than 1000 years this has been the goal of not only the radical leaders but the silent majority too. That when the time is of their choosing, they will again strive to battle the “infidels” and achieve supremecy.
              When OBL first tried to take down the Towers, he tried from the basement, learned from that mistake, figured out how to make it happen and came back and succeeded. He planned, bided his time and won that battle by stealth. I wonder if the past failures throughout history taught the current leadership the course to success. Stealth and deception.
              The times we live in will someday be history. There’s a little voice in my head that keeps telling me only future generations will know for certain the true intentions of Islam. But I fear for freedom loving people around the world that the Muslim ideology will betray us.

            • OP – My mom lives in Florida and was not aware of Col. West until I brought him to her attention. She is very involved with politics and works the polls during every election (she doesn’t live in his district) She followed him and started pushing for him, donating to his campaign, etc. She made me aware of his video a few days ago. The man is AMAZING! He is a true American and he knows his stuff. He is definitely one to watch.
              JEAN, you could not be more on the bullseye. I too have done some homework. There is no way out of this religion except for death. There was a case in New Jersey where an American judge allowed Sharia Law to rule over American Law. One case at a time is all they want. One turns into 2, 2 turns into 3 and so forth.
              The planning for 9/11 started on February 27th, 1993. The day after they failed to bring down the towers on the first try. This religion is very patient. They will wait years to accomplish what they set out to do. We are just allowing it to happen. Very scary.

          • Very well said, Jean.

            All I would add would be the mention of group obligations vs individual obligations and how they change based on the situation–one mujaheed fulfills the obligation of a community until is-lam is in power and then the obligation converts to the individual.

            I’d also mention the concept of that-which-abrogates and that-which-is-abrogated. Sneaky SOBs can quote their book any way they please, but it is the violent parts that take precedence.

            Robert Spencer has a short but complete description titled Islam 101 on his website, Jihadwatch.org.

            Jean, I am greatly pained by what multiculturalism and the ensuing onslaught of decidedly un-British immigrants have done to one of the greatest nations in the world’s history. Stay safe.

      • its 3:00 am. im passing thru the city of compton ca. i roll up to a stop light just as it turns red. on the corner are several young ,black,men with thier pants around the middle of thier butt and flashing gang signs. i quickly put it in gear and roll thru the red light without stopping. have i just profiled? you bet your ass im a profiler. if you havent been robbed at gunpoint,then you dont know the fear of wondering weather your wallet is enough to make them go away.when you have two lives you are responsible for, not to mention cargo that you have to pass intense government scrutiny in order to haul,if your not a profiler than you are a fool. profiling is realism,not racism.,,,,,,over

        • I don’t necessarily consider what you described as racial profiling since you would be basing much of that scenario on the clothing they were wearing and the gang signs, not to mention the location and the time of night. I have a feeling that if you were to pull up to a corner in a reputable business district and the exact same gentlemen were standing on the corner with neat haircuts, business suits and ties, carrying briefcases and talking on their cell phones you would be perfectly comfortable with them. What you described is just using some good old fashioned common sense to protect yourself!

        • Teenageprepper says:

          I agree. Simply put people don’t like being profiled, and I try not to judge people. (because that’s Gods job) But at the same time I am a little more on edge when I’m walking through the gritty parts of town. It’s just instict. Scan a room and recognize possible treats or running a red light because of the people around you. It’s self preservation kicking in.

          • You can judge people all you care to. The point of “judge not, lest ye…” is that your judgements will be used to judge you. You can’t think rationally without judging or making decisions.

            It’s the idea that you are responsible for your judgements and will be called to task for them in the future that you might want to consider.

            You owe nobody a moral blank check. Trust and respect must be earned or they are worthless. You must take the fair measure of all you are presented with in life to act rationally. This includes people and all the relevant data you can obtain about them. Calling legitimate observations “profiling” is an intellectual cheap shot. It aims to obviate guilt through ignorance and cannot withstand logical analysis.

            Logic and the Bible agree on this point: judge and be judged in turn with your judgements as evidence for or against you. Make sound judgements and you will be backed by strong evidence of your character.

            I’m tired of the moral abdication that comes with the refusal to call something what it is. A is A.


      • OP,I would say a “man” who has sex with children as young as 8 0r 9 is the definition of child molester….I didn’t specify murdering only non-muslims,doubtless there were muslims running caravans and he was a raider of caravans…

        • OhioPrepper says:

          If true, I would concur 🙁

          • In the Qu’ran, supported by the Ahadith, and used to justify forced marriages of prepubescent girls to old men throughout the Dar-al Islam, is a description of Mohammed’s marriage to Aaliyah when she was six, consummated at the age of nine. Mohammed was in his 50’s at this time.

            In Islam, Mohammed is held to be the perfect example for all men to follow. Thus we have murder, rape, thievery, fraud and deceit held as virtue throughout the muslim world.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      Another good book on the subject is “Islam Unveiled”. Should open eyes to the dangers.
      I’ve also worked with many Europeans who have seen their countries over-run with muslim immigrants, their lifestyles totally changed, their laws subverted, etc. The europeans are not happy about this.
      Wikipeda says there are between 1.2 and 1.6 billion muslims in the world. If only one percent of the lower number were “radicals”, that would mean 12,000,000 radicals….hardly a “few”.
      Of course, “profiling” also should include those that have other nefarious purposes, so keep you eyes open, stay off the skyline, keep safe.

    • emptynester says:

      I saw that video too with a local group in my area, and it is frightening. Their history has a very bloody past, and if folks don’t start getting together on some of these important issues we will surely suffer greatly for it.

  55. sheeple_no_more says:

    Built FIFO storage from canracks. com. Came out nice. Purchased several books for our library. The encyclopedia of county living. The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse. Dinner in a jar. Bought more pantry supplies. A small bible.
    Made contact with several preppers in my area. We are looking into make group purchases on supplies. Working on making a written plan and schedule.

  56. My attention was focused on my choice of weapons and ammo this past week. The turmoil in the Middle East sparked the thought in the back of my head that maybe I oughta stash a few more rounds of ammo while available & affordable. I also rechecked my ‘field repair kit’ for my AR type weaopon & decided to order a few more extractors, springs, o-rings, etc… I chose to order a new bolt as well, along with a couple firing pins, magazine catches and breakdown pins. I spent less than $100 and gained a tremendous peace of mind. Short of wrapping the barrel around a tree, I am now able to keep this weapon functional on the move. Lastly, I rotated out my emergency rations. I am a big fan of the Mainstay Emergency Food Bars & I keep 20 of them in my ‘go-to-hell’ bag. They have a decent shelf life of 5 yrs but I rotate mine out every January/February. The old ones I crumble up and feed to the critters roaming around the snowbanks. That’s what I managed to accomplish this week…. you?

  57. I purchased a couple of 20lb. propane tanks for my propane powered generator that I bought about a month ago. It is capable of 3000 running watts and big enough to run a heater and my CPAP machine plus a little more like some lights, etc. I’m in the market for a 100lb. (aprox). propane tank as well. I also purchased a few mags for my Glock mod. 22 and mod. 19. The .40 cal mags are used (like new) at a price of 12.95 each. The 9mm mags are new and are going for 19.99 each while they last. I haven’t listed the sources because I’m not sure that I can. I’ll be glad to if I don’t violate any rules.

    • MOFreedom says:

      Around here in MO we had a 1000 gallon tank for propane delivered for the lease price of $64 per year for the house and a 250 gallon one for only an extra $12.64 per year. Only approximately 60% is actually usable as you can only fill them to 80% (unless it is very cold and then you can push them to 85%), and you are not supposed to use the last 20%. So a 250 gallon tank x 60% is actually 150 gallons of usable propane while a 1000 gallon has about 600 gallons usable. Propane weighs 4.24 pounds per gallon, so a 250 gallon propane tank will hold about 636 pounds and a 1000 gallon tank will hold about of 2544 usable pounds.

      Our company will deliver for free if you order 200 gallons or more and the current price is $1.89 per gallon. You can get different sizes like 125, 250, 320, 500, and 1000 gallon tanks and they are pretty reasonable to lease. I looked into buying a 1000 tank and it was $2800 delivered. I can lease one a LONG time to make up that difference.

      Check to see what it really costs to fill up a tank. We are paying $.45 cents per pound and they deliver it. If you have wrestled 100 pound propane tanks you can appreciate that! Can you get your 100 pound tank filled for $45.00?

      A typical BBQ type tank used to be 20 pounds, and now are either 15 or 17 pounds of actual propane. It costs $21 to get them exchanged here so that works out to $1.40 per pound if they put 15 pounds in it, or $1.24 per pound if they fill it with 17 pounds. It adds up quickly.

      We can heat and cook in our home and warm the shop for a full year, it’s paid for, and we don’t have the normal price increases throughout the winter months as we try to fill up when it is less expensive in the summer.

      I suggest you consider inquiring about leasing a tank. It’s like prepaid heat just sitting there looking at you and has a shelf life of many, many, many years.

      [email protected]

      • OhioPrepper says:

        I don’t know why you can’t use the last 20% of the tank. I have a pair of 1000 gallon tanks I purchased about 10 and 8 years ago (two purchases about 2 years apart) and we typically run one tank completely empty at which point the other tank starts providing fuel. My wife calls all of the propane vendors in the area in the June timeframe, and we generally get a pretty good price, typically purchasing around 1200 gallons. Neither the vendor who supplied and installed the tanks, nor any of the vendors who fill them, have ever said anything about running the tanks dry. I don’t know why this would be any different than the 20 Pound tanks for the BBQ. I don’t trade them in or refill them until they’ve also run dry.
        BTW, having a year’s supply of propane (under normal use) or a 2+ year supply (if we’re running in austerity mode) gives you a really good feeling. It’s one of the few large preps I didn’t have to justify to my wife.

        • OhioPrepper, many thanks for the energy look up on last week’s post ! Excellent source to learn what our energy sources are. Considering the solar panels needed for a self-sufficient electric car the weight alone would squash the little thing! I couldn’t track down the comments we had running but wanted to thank you.

      • MOFreedom, that is a lot of info. I knew that it was required to leave some space in the tank for expansion in the case of autos, but I never thought about it in other types of tanks. It does sound like a much better deal to get a large tank on a lease. It would pay for me to get a gas log set-up for my fireplace as well. Would I be able to fill up my jeep once I get it converted using that large tank? Can you tell me how long propane will last? I’ve heard from 15 years to forever. Thanks for the help.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          The reason propane tanks can be filled to only 80% or 85% of their liquid capacity in winter is twofold. When heated, the liquid propane expands, so you do not want to exceed the tank ratings, or you may vent liquid propane through the release valve. The other reason is that propane tanks require a vapor space, essentially the area above the liquid where it converts to vapor, since propane is stored as a liquid and delivered to your appliances as a gas. Winter in this case implies cold weather, for less expansion and would not include hot climates such as AZ or TX.
          You would need to check for the proper fittings to fill your jeep, but it should be possible. There is a fitting and valve assembly for at least the 1000 gallon tanks to allow filling of the 20 pound utility tanks you would use on your BBQ grill.
          As for propane shelf life, I was told by numerous suppliers that it is the life of the tank. As long as your tank does not develop a leak, the liquid propane will be usable indefinitely.

        • One thing to verify, here we can only get our propane tank filled by the vendor we lease it from. It’s illegal for any other vendor to fill it. Of course, since they bought out the only competition it doesn’t matter anymore.

          • OhioPrepper says:

            That’s why I purchased mine. If your only option is an extra dollar a gallon, even the modest use of say 500 gallons per year will pay back quickly. Also, when calling around to the various vendors in mid-summer and ordering a bulk fill (in our case > 1000 gallons) you tend to find suppliers who will compete for your business. Saving even a nickel on 1000 gallons is $50.00 and the saving adds up pretty quick. We’ve been doing this long enough that we sometimes get calls from the suppliers with their latest prices.
            If you live in farm country, the 1000 gallon tanks use for anhydrous ammonia fertilizer are the same as the propane tanks. Occasionally a company will have the baffle in the tank break loose, which means that they can no longer be used to haul anhydrous, but are perfectly fine for a stationary propane tank. These sometimes come available on the market. It can’t hurt to call around.

      • MOFreedom, do yourself a favor and start looking for a deal on some tanks you can own. We had a situation here this year with one propane gas company. A local company sold out about 2 years ago to a big national outfit. Suddenly this year the national outfit (still using the local guys name) raised their prices to $1.00 or more above the competition. Yes I said one dollar or more. They are selling gas at about $3.70 a gallon.
        The people who have leased tanks can not change suppliers because all the other local suppliers are out of tanks and they are prohibited by law from filling the other companies tanks.

        It’s so bad that the former owner of the company went on TV to tell folks he no longer owned or had anything to do with the company and he was ashamed that his family name was still associated with them. People contacted the state attorney general who told them that Propane Gas is NOT a regulated commodity and he can’t do anything about it. The TV stations went to the gas company and were told they’d sell their gas for what they wanted to sell if for and if folks didn’t like it they could go elsewhere. Of course they can’t go elsewhere because they can’t get a tank.

  58. Timely post on the Mini-14 (we decided to get one earlier this week), so I appreciate the comments. Bought 1500 bullets for the PPCs….long shelf life, gotta love that. Not so much in the food department, just a dozen more cans of tuna, some cans of tomatoes, 5 lbs more honey, 2 lbs more cocoa. Finished up plans on the goat shed and firmed up delivery of 2 milkers and hopefully 2 doelings for late March.

  59. I passed my ham radio test to upgrade my license to General. Had planned to take the Extra test as well but decided against it… not sure I was ready to pass it on the first try, so I’ll wait until next month.

    The new HF radio came last week and I had set it up on the kitchen table to learn how it works. The office room is a bit of a mess and will need a little rearranging to fit a radio corner in. My wife was a little fussy about it at first. Then when we were watching the news about Egypt and the report about about the internet and phones being shut down she turned to me and said “that radio is part of our preps, right? I mean, if that happened here we’d be able to use it for news and to communicate…?”

    Smart woman, my wife.

    Other than that, we’re getting our seed orders ready to go out this week. The ground here in ID is still frozen solid and we won’t be able to get any real gardening in for another 3 weeks or so. sigh.

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Congrats on the upgrade. With a little studying you won’t have any problems with Extra class. Remember that the example question pool is available online, and that will help you prepare for the next upgrade. Good Luck.

      • Thanks OP. I’ve been trying practice exams online but my performance isn’t consistent enough on the Extra yet. I can wait a month 😉

    • Horace… I’ve had my Tech-class license for over 20 years and this post is prompting me to upgrade to General class. Thank you!

    • Ridge Runner says:

      Congrats on the upgrade. General is as far as I went. Gets you into the HF bands. Ham radio is one thing my wife doesn’t fuss about. She’s a ham too. I felt the same way after the thing in Egypt. Went outside and started looking at trees for stringing up wire antennas.

  60. Stockpiled shotgun ammo from Walmart. They will no longer stock certain Winchester light recoil loads so I picked up what was left. About 7 boxes. (It was payday). Also stocked up on rifled slugs and 00-buckshot. I recently purchased a Mossberg 590A1 and had run alot of my stock ammo though it in training runs. Love a Mossberg.
    Also built up some canned supplies. Checked my water storage.
    Got the EVAC vehicle (98 suburban) to the shop for a check up and tires roatated and balanced. Topped off both my vehicles with gas.
    My regular ride just cost me 1800$ in repairs, so it’s gona put a damper on spending for awhile.

    I also am waiting to finish my taxes so I know how much I’m in for before any more major purchases.

    Meanwhile I’ll stock a little here and there and follow your blog, as well as continuing survival /homestead research.

    Thanks for your blog MD. great stuff. Great people.

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      We made a big Sams run.Got canned veggies….canned milk…rice,50lbs….lots of different things.Including a big case of tp…..and several buckets of laundry soap.We also picked up some beef and chicken to can.Gonna start that this afternoon.I am running out of space here in our little house.I am thinking about putting the tp in a metal trash can with a tight lid and stickin’ it in our barely there attic…Lol!I think that will protect it from mice.Also got a huge bag of dog food.Our Molly is like a child to us…so we prep for her too.She is a good sized dog,American Bulldog.I hope she learns quickly to watch over this house,she is just a pup right now.Our Chi-dog is a good little alert dog.Shes old , toothless and half blind..but has good hearing.I really do believe everyone needs at least one big gaurd dog in these days and times.Next week I am planning on measuring at least two of our windows and having plywood cut to fit.Would love some burglar bars but they just are not in our budget yet.I love this blog and learn so much from you,M.D….And all the others that comment on here.Thank you to all here!Stay warm everyone!

  61. Well here is a question for my future prep of the week, month or year. I am not tecnically inclined at all. I get concepts up to a point and then it is out the window for me.
    I would like some “solar power for dummies” information.
    I am interested in solar power generators. I have found that they want you to do some math about amps and watts. Yeah! right. I only do math when I have to balance my checking and that is ify.
    I have been stimyed by the male mentallity of not telling you exactly what you can run on said systems and for how long. (Yes, I do get the idea if the Sun don’t shine, nothing happens)
    1. Need to know the best system for the least amount of money.
    a. Most watts for panels needed
    b. etc. best batteries
    2.Need to know the most simple setup. Just setup and use system.
    3. Need to know what it will run and for how long.
    a. medium size chest freezer. (I will be thinking of two purchases so this
    is all I will have on the one.
    b. One to run a small refrigerator in the house. One of those that you can also run from a cigarette lighter in a vehicle. And I think they make a slightly larger one. So consider that in the thinking on this. Oh and maybe a microwave.
    Also need to know if I needed to what other things could be run if needed on the systems.
    Also need some information on fireplaces. Have lived in this house for 12 years and have had the TV in fromt of the fireplace. Have no idea if anyone used it prior to that time. (Besides the original owners for heat in the 1920’s)How can I tell if it needs cleaning? So give me some pointer’s. I plan on using it to learn to cook in the open. I will be trying a brick hobo stove in it (less wood to worry about). Plus want to use it for dutch oven cooking. I really don’t plan on big heat the house type fires. I am going to use my gas heat as long as I can. Yes, I will have it cleaned for safety and the just in case factor, but want to know how you can tell if it needs to be cleaned. And Can I Do It MySELF???

    • Ellen,
      While I am not too knowledgable on the subject of fireplaces and chimeny works myself, I had an uncle who ran his own chimeny sweep busisness for a time. I ‘assisted’ (handed him tools) when he cleaned my parents chimeny. I can tell you that there seemed to be alot of specialized tools and it was a very dirty job. I would recommend that you pay a professional to do the job at least the first time. They will inspect as they clean it and tell you if there is any damage. I think to do otherwise would be inviting disaster.

    • MOFreedom says:

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      Good Luck!

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    • OhioPrepper says:

      WOW. This is quite a list of questions. First of all, the Amp & Watts question is not a Male question, it’s an engineering question, and to get the correct answers, you have to know the system details (e.g., what you need to run & how often). My recommendation would be to find a device called a Kill-A-Watt (See http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Kill-A-Watt for examples). They are available for somewhere around $20.00. You plug the unit into an outlet and plug another device (like a refrigerator, freezer etc.) into it. Leave the system set up for at least 7-10 days. It measures a lot of things like VA and Power factor that you can ignore for the moment. The two important numbers you would record are the running time (in hours & minutes) and the Kilowatts used. From these two numbers the person quoting you the system can have a good idea about your power requirements. I actually have one connected to a new heater that’s in our bathroom. I have profiled every appliance in the house, except for things like blenders, hand mixers, etc. This will keep you from doing calculations, but still provide the solar system supplier with the data they will need to engineer your system.

      As for the chimney that hasn’t been used in at least 12 years. You can purchase the rods and brushes to do it yourself. I do my own every year or two. If I were you however, I would assume that it needs cleaned and hire a professional company to do the work. They can evaluate the condition of the chimney, provide you with a quote for repairs if needed, and clean it if required. Once it’s all functional, you can clean it yourself with the right tools. As for the fires you burn in it. Whether you’re trying to heat the house, cook, or simply take the chill off of the room, the chimney needs to be in the same working condition.

    • axelsteve says:

      Ellen. Personaly I would have the chimney inspected by a pro. I have the brush to clean the flu in my woodstove however, since you do not know what shape it is in have it checked.maybe have it rechecked every 5 years if you can sweep it yourself. I sweep my flu every year witch may be excessive on how much I burn but it keeps the misses happy so it is cheap peace and quiet. Steve

    • Ellen, I am the same way. Maybe M.D. can do a article on solar generators. I wonder about them everytime I see that ad on T.V.

      You can bet your chimney has or had bird nests in it. I would get a chimney sweep to do it because they also do a safety check to make sure it won’t start your house on fire.

    • sheeple_no_more says:

      Please for your own safety have a professional do it. I am a contractor and have had to come in after chimney fires to repair and sometimes rebuild what it left. They will not only clean it but inspect it to make sure the lining is safe.

    • Ridge Runner says:

      Ohms Law:
      Amps x Volts = Watts

      The rest is simple math.

  62. Stardusthill says:

    Just ordered another 5lbs coffee beans and 5lbs peppercorns. I divide this up in 1lb packages, vacuum seal and freeze. Have been ordering non-hybrid seeds on sale from different places to prepare for Spring and Summer garden. Planning on a large garden for the first time in a while. The seeds hopefully will make me more self sustaining. Have my basic storage pretty well intact. Just me, but I have two girls who don’t have a clue. I will provide for them and when things get bad I hope I have the time to teach them what they need to know to survive and thrive. The price of food , fuel and everyday living is rising. The time to prepare is now. Whatever you can do will make things easier.

  63. I guess I should have intoduced my self earlier. I’m located in LA, but was born in MS and came to be here through 21 years in the Air Force.
    I’ve been following this blog for a couple of years I guess. I began preparing for the hard times back in 1994 when Bill Clinton decided he tell me what firearms I needed and which ones I didn’t. Of course there were many other warnings from his administration that kept me focused. I moved to the country in 1999 and have been stocking up on guns and ammo ever since. It is only recently that I have been focusing on food storage and being more self sufficient. My oldest brother who lives in MS has always had a garden and hunted. Deer are a nuisance where he lives. I can pick his brain when I need to. He doesn’t consider himself a prepper or survivalist because that is just the way we were raised. I have gained a lot of knowledge here and I appreciate everyone for sharing what they know.
    One project that I am contemplating is the switch to propane power for my 1982 Jeep Wagoneer. I like propane for its storage abilitiy. It doesn’t gum up no matter how long it stays in the tank and my Wagoneer doesn’t get much use. If anyone has done such a conversion I’d appreciate any help or ideas you may be able to provide.
    And a special thanks to you MD for doing all that you do.


    • PHS,

      Thank you.

    • axelsteve says:

      I doubt that changing over to propane would be a problem. If you have the small Cherokee maybe but if you have a grand Cherokee it should be a snap. Relativly. Some kits even make it so you can swith to gas or lpg gas. Propane is also kinda a poormans fuel injection setup, you can run it when the vehicle is upside down and the propane does not care.I know 4 wheeleres who run propane for that reason. I would do a google search or something like that. Steve

    • barksdale? im near mnden.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      A few years ago AZ actually paid a “rebate” for RV’ers to convert their RV’s to “dual” fuel usage, regular gasoline or propane. Am sure that kits are out there that would let you convert your rig.

  64. Stephanie says:

    Hearing about days-long power outages in other parts of the US helped my husband to be more accepting of preparing. We purchased a Coleman propane stove and two fuel canisters, tent repair kit, extra toilet paper and diapers at excellent prices (stacked store coupons with manufacturer coupons), and lots of canned meat and vegetables. We’re planning to do some camping this spring to practice adjusting to different conditions and cooking outdoors.

  65. More PT, upper the weight again. Getting there. Should be able to carry IWB w/o new pants soon.

    Kept budget tight–gun show next weekend.

    Made a run to Sam’s Club and Aldi, lots of canned food. Canned a flat of chicken thighs into four quart jars. Downloaded all three original manuals for the old gennie I picked up.

    Networked with a few folks–getting some resources arranged to help each other out.

    Teaching a friend how to build alcohol stoves while watching the superbowl tonight. Good times.

    Way to go, MD. I’m proud to be a part of your blog and happy to see it grow so quickly.

  66. Thank you everyone for the replies on solar and chimney stuff. Sure do apperciate it. There is a chimney guy in a town close will try to get in touch with him.
    My question’s on the solar are complicated to me, but my conveying it to someone else get’s lost in translation. But don’t worry will figger it out.
    Okay nothing to do with prepping and I know I shouldn’t use this spot for it but I have to do some bragging on my son. He is a truck driver and was trying to get out of Texas superbowl area before the traffic got bad. He stopped at this very small town, say about 500, to eat. He said of couse it being Sunday it was busy and this one waitress was overloaded with bussing the tables plus all the other things that go along with the job. I guess the manager came out and called her a vile name (really bad) and it flu all over my son. He jumped the slimey snake and told him that he had no call to talk to her like that. That she was doing the best she could considering. And he told the guy she had better be working there when he came back through. He said he was so mad he can’t remember all he told him.
    One of the old customers asked my son what had happened and he told him, the old man told my son good for him for sticking up for her.
    The cashier said she couldn’t wait to get home and tell her husband what happened. I bet the customers will help spread the news,too.
    I bet the whole town knows by now.
    When I told my daughter about it she said, If he goes back through there they will probably throw him a parade.
    I am so proud of him.

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      Sounds like a ‘true’ man to me…That condition seems to have skipped over alot of the younger generation.Good for him!You have a right to be proud!

    • Tell that waitress to carry a tape recorder. Next time your son rolls through that town she should own that place.
      There’s no reason a woman should put up with ANY man treating her that way, nonetheless an employer. The only reason a man gets that way is people let him. If the first woman he did that to had put his lights out with a skillet to the head, he’d have learned his manners. Mark my words, any women and children he has at home are treated worse.

    • The brainwashing wore off... says:

      We need more men like that. Too many metrosexual, politically correct girly men in this country. Long live chivalry and gentlemen!

  67. Harvested my indoor lettuce crop. The yields are low compared to the power required to run the lights. The experience seems to have been worthwhile though, tasty too. Still having problems with white flies. Heard on the radio others had problems with them last year too and the experts said to consider it a fluke and next year there will likely be no problems with them. I doubt that for some reason.

    After reading this thread I realized maybe I should have bought a couple of the leg traps I saw go for close to nothing at an auction last year.

    I bought a couple of useful books for 88 Cents at the Thrift Store. Noticed prices of some other things seemed Up. I may stop going to that store until after yard sale season kicks in, hopefully there will be some lower prices then.

    • I have had an over abundance of white flies one year and none the next. But I normally get a vegi-safe spray for them. Organic is good, but I’d rather not loose a whole crop to something that may very well show up every single year, and starve. “Plant one for the bugs, one for the critters, and one for yourself” is an old saying, but I don’t have the space, energy or time for that. I start with the small guns in insecticides where I can, but have nothing against getting out the 50 cal when nothing else works.

    • I’ve gotten white fly in my greenhouse and to attract them I make a ‘trap’. Use yellow paper that is swiped with honey and hang around the plants, place on small sticks in the pots, etc. The white fly will go to the yellow and get stuck in the honey. This home-made ‘trap’ is similar to Tanglefoot, a product you can buy. Tanglefoot is supposed to be pesticide free but I’m not sure. I found the homemade ‘trap’ works for me.

  68. Christine says:

    I could not fit prep purchases into my budget this week, but I did rotate and re-organize my food stores. I did a bit of reading and educating myself. Keeping an eye on Egypt. I am going to watch the nurse videos and take notes.
    Still looking for a job.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      What type of work? I just this morning heard Lowe’s is hiring people. I think they’ll be looking for sales associates.

      • Christine says:

        Thanks, Lint. I will go check out my Lowe’s. I haven’t had a sales job since I was a teenager, but i am willing to do whatever it takes. I cannot get by on minimum wage, as I am a single mom of two teenagers, I am the sole breadwinner. I have been a laboratory technician in the dental industry for over 20 years, and I don’t really know how to do much else. Unfortunately those jobs are drying up as labs close because of the economy, and as the technology becomes more and more automated. I used to make a very decent living and now I am just trying to keep the roof over our heads.
        Sorry for rambling; this is TMI and more than you asked. I do feel a little better for dumping, lol.

  69. I didn’t buy a thing this week, but I did a big inventory of where I am and have decided I feel pretty comfortable at the moment. Still thinking a 4-10 shotgun and another 22 plus a new airgun will happen this year sometime. Spending a lot of time cleaning up my office and finances and simplifying where ever I can. Wish I was younger as despite preperation, I will be a dependent somewhere.

    • Jim Murphy says:

      I still have my 410 from when I was a teenager hunting squirrels
      and rabbits. A great little gun for small game. Thought of selling it many times over the years but I’m glad I kept it.

      We all wish we were a little younger…. but we keep on going.

  70. wanda4089 says:

    Just went to Harbor Freight today and purchased a 45 Watt Solar Kit that came with solar lights, charger and panels, you need a battery and inverter but it was a great deal with a coupon I had for $179.00. Purchased 2 more lg packs of tp, and 2 large laundry soap plus 28 more bars of hand soap. Tomorrow start dehydrating potatoes again. Planning a trip to LDS Storehouse next weekend. Their prices have jumped but at still a great deal. Hope all is well with the rest of the preppers out there.

  71. The brainwashing wore off... says:

    Not a whole lot of purchases other than dessicants, TP and paper goods. Received my heirloom seeds I’d ordered and picked up a bag of seed starter at Dollar Gen yesterday. Between the home office and our pantry , I seriously need to get organized! Have to be honest, sometimes I feel so overwhelmed with the whole prepping thing. I had to take a break this weekend. Got out and hiked with hubby to clear the head and reenergize.

    Read an article on how to make soap using rendered animal fat, rainwater and hardwood ashes. Started reading “Lights Out”, ordered “Alas, Babylon” and “Self-Sufficiency: A Complete Guide to Baking, Carpentry, Crafts, Organic Gardening, Preserving Your Harvest, Raising Animals, and More! (Back to Basics Guides) ” by Abigail Gehring, which came highly recommended from a fellow prepper. Researching water purification systems, desalination is a must. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    • nancy (Northwest) says:

      Both books are good. (I have read Alas, Babylon several times. Time to read Lights Out again.)

    • Speaking of dessicants, does anyone know if dessicant packs can be dried and re-used. I’m assuming that once they are exposed to the air for a few hours (depending on humidity) they
      have absorbed all the moisture they can handle. Is it possible that placing them in a warm oven or a food dehydrator will bring them back to a useful condition?

      I have access to a steady supply of the things from packaging but if they can’t be re-used there is no need to keep them. I wonder if there is a way to test them?

      • OhioPrepper says:

        The answer is yes. Desiccant can be dried out in a low oven or your dehydrator. Google drying desiccant for lots of instructions. As for the moisture content, some desiccant has a color marker in it that IIRC turns blue when moist and clear when dry. Also, make sure the desiccant and its packaging is food grade.

        • Thanks OhioPrepper.

          My desiccant packs come from a hospital laboratory and were packed with sterile equipment and chemicals used in testing. I’ll have to check them all out. My gut feeling is they would be food grade but I’ll make sure. You know I do “Google” searches several times a day but never thought about doing a search about desicant packs. strange.

          • OhioPrepper says:

            Anything that comes in chemicals that are edible, such as medications should be OK. Since most desiccants are silica gel based, they should be OK, but if packed with equipment that outgases (usually plastics) then they may have absorbed not only the water, but also the contaminants.
            You need to be aware of the packaging when you dry them. For instance, I have many small desiccants that come from my medications, vitamins, supplements, etc. They are OK to use, but many contain the desiccant in a little plastic cylinder,s so I need to be careful how much heat I use to dry them.

          • AZ rookie prepper says:

            Charlie, Be careful of your dessicants. If packed with chemicals in particular, they could be cross contaminated from those chemicals which would then be in contact with the food you put the dessicant packets into. Best to use only food grade dessicant packs that you personally pulled from other food products or purchase new, food grade dessicant packets. Not sure about the dessicant packets used with sterile instruments, but, I would much rather be safe than sorry when a few cents payment now save much sorrow and cost later.

            • Thanks guys. I was in a hurry when I replied before and the correct words wouldn’t come to mind. Actually these packs I have come in boxes containing test trips, reagents and the like. The products are in containers and the desicant packs are typically in the larger box that holds the containers. They are the same kind of dessicant packs you would find inside a box of over the counter meds where the meds were in a blister pack and a dessicant is in the box along with the blister pack card. I went to the manufactures web site and they are FDA approved. I’ll ask a few more questions about exactly what they are packed with because I don’t work in the lab and don’t see them come out of the packaging.

  72. I ordered some 999 Silver ingots from eBay to make Colloidal Silver as my antibiotic. Those with/using Hydrogen Peroxide need to remember to keep it dark and cool (in the fridge is excellent) otherwise it deteriorates.
    Got a 20kg bag of salt. General stockup on pantry cans.
    I wish we could get a variety of weapons as easy as you guys can.
    Thanks MD for inspiring us aall.

    in Oz.

  73. on vacation this past week; Cherry Grove was wet and cold. Took the brother inlaw shooting and picked up some extra boots. The range in Myrtle Beach is down to two lanes after a suicide last year. Found out there’s a range in Murrells Inlet. I’ll check it out this fall. Back to the grind Monday! ya’ll take care in the ice and cold. It ain’t fun getting busted up.

  74. Posted on last weeks prep but today begins a new week.
    Moved additional firewood from farm to house for expected cold front coming our way rest of week. Was inspired after several posts on here to purchase a Berkey water unit. Also purchased a hiking ” Neo Air Pad” after
    my twenty year old Thermarest expired on last weekends hiking trip.
    Learned on this overnight hike that alot of people will have difficulty handling the load to bug out due to health constraints. One reason I stay in shape. Came up on someone practicing today with a slingshot. Strange but true.I have one but never have practiced. So I asked to learn and now have another skil set. All tasks completed prior to the Superbowl kickoff.

  75. highdesertlivin says:

    Thanks for the sentiment lint picker. Actually havent asked wife about shortcomings . But thinking about it 2200 + miles away gave me clear insight . Took possesion of 25 ,Lb.s organic of green lentils, quiniaw (checking spelling) correction quinoa ,and pintos . Gamma seals on the way . Wife says store more water ( she had to fill 5 gal jugs ) . Saw some posts on chimney stuff . Im a chimney sweep /contractor for solid fuel combustion systems . I reccommend a wood stove for all preppers , iff your kids are cold you can burn the neibors fence , and cook . Win win situation . Be safe

  76. My darling husband has decided not to question or roll his eyes at my prep purchases! 🙂

    New England has seen some record amounts of snow this year for January & for “winter weather prepping” I bought a pair of snow shoes (just in case – had never worn them before) & a snow/ski pants item (hadn’t had one since I was a kid). My husband is great about letting me purchase whatever I feel we should have for the home (since I’m quite frugal) but was a little unsure about these 2 items.

    This week he said he’d never doubt me again! The snow/ski pants kept me warm/dry while chiseling out the mailbox from the 5-6′ snowbank, digging a path to allow the oil delivery person to keep us stocked & let me to march to the back of the house to knock icicles off the gutters ~with the pool vacuum pole (I didn’t think to get a roof rake so I had to improvise). My husband wanted to help but kept sinking without snowshoes. (Maybe I should get him a pair too LOL).

    It was our own little “situation” and we were prepared! Trust me – I can’t wait for temps above freezing for a few days but am happy we were able to get through it on our own.

    M.D. – Thanks so much for this great blog ~ I’ve learned so much from you & all the contributors.

  77. Longhuntre says:

    Well i stocked up on all the great sale itens that were all advertused and on sale for the Super Bowl!!! Yeah Super Bowl sales

  78. Jim Murphy says:

    I put up 2 cases of bottled water as we are beginning to rotate our
    stock of water. Downloaded some Chunky soup coupons from their website from my computer at home and from work (with permission)
    and purchased 16 cans of Chunky Sirloin Burger soup for $14.00.
    That’s less than a buck a can and everyone in the family agrees on that flavor.

    Noticing an over abundence of critters around our area. We’re seeing foxes and coyotes wandering around in the middle of the day during the weekends. When I was growing up, the foxes were trapped for their fur. They were very cunning and I never actually saw one until it was trapped. Now you see them all over the place. Anyone know what fox furs are selling for in Ohio on average?

    Coyotes were never around here. They have slowly moved in over the years. People use our area to dump unwanted pets from time to time. We have had a few explosions in stray cat populations over the years. Since the coyotes and foxes have shown up, I am not noticing near as many strays wandering around.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      Jim, A long time friend of mine in MO has noticed many more “critters” around too, some of which have not been seen in his vicinity in over 100 years (bear, mountain lion, bobcat). He is a trapper but fur prices have been so low for quite a few years that he says its hardly worth it. “Farmed” furs are where a lot of companies are purchasing for their products these days too. Add to that, trapping requires WORK, much of it outdoors and involves getting dirty and cold….and many of our young people dont really know what that is….if it isnt an “instant gratification” comfortable type job, they want nothing to do with it. Similar story for hunting, many young people today dont hunt or want to, its “easier” to play a “hunting” game on the computer. Sad commentary on (some of) our youth.

  79. This weekend I took a course in Land Navigation at the local Orienteering club. I have wanted, and needed, to learn how to use a topographical map to navigate, just in case I have to reach my retreat on foot rather than by car. It not the best option for getting to my retreat but I would rather be skilled and prepared for that senario.

    My local grocery store had a deal that I could get name brand canned vegetables(49 cents each) cheaper than the strore brand (69 cents each). I bought a case of mixed vegetables and a case of canned tomatoes for soups and several cans of each family members favorite vegetables, well at least me and the wifes favs and what vegetables I can get the kid to eat.

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Land Nav is another great skill to have. I stress topo maps and map reading and compasses in my Hunter Education classes; but, unfortunately, many people have gotten so comfortable with their GPS units, that a map and compass is considered antiquated. The only thing I can do is ask them how well a GPS works with dead batteries and tell them that my compass always works without batteries.

  80. I’m ashamed to admit that I did nothing to prep last week. This blog is definitely a big kick in my pants. My life is so full and busy that my prepping seems to consist of mainly reading blogs about prepping. This has got to stop. I have to be more proactive. My husband not not support my prepping “hobby”. He thinks I’ve become obsessed since discovering the prepping subculture last summer. I was initially drawn into this due to concerns about the Deepwater disaster. But that’s another story.

    Bottom- I’m in my 40’s with 4 kids ages 3-12. My oldest has cerebral palsy and is mentally and physcially handicapped. My work part-time and homeschool 2 of the children as well as laundry, cleaning, meals etc. There are never enough hours in the day. I have to prioritize and do something every week even if it is something small. My family NEEDS me to do this and if I don’t do it then nothing will be done.

    My goal this week is to work on filling up some stackable 5 gallon water boxes. My goal is to have 100 gallons of water stored so it is available if needed.
    Thanks- MD. This is a great blog.


    • Trafal,

      Just glad to help my friend – the more people that prepare now thae better off we will all be now and when it hits the fan.

    • Best of luck with your husband. My wife is lukewarm to prepping and tends to run hot-and-cold on it sometimes. I just keep it from becoming an argument and apply subtle pressure.

      Yes, it slows down the prep rate, but I’m prepping for her and my three daughters whether they want me to or not. Without them I really don’t have too much motivation, as they are my world.

      Regarding the water: watch the stack height and remember you’ll need to rotate them for freshness.

      If you think the DH could benefit from a man-to-man talk, you can reach me through the meetup page under Lyon County, KS.

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      I know the situation you are in. Hang there,Trafal.You can be the tree everyone shelters under while they give thanks for your foresight.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      Trafal, the longest journey begins with the first step. Even a little at a time adds up. You would be surprised how a little here, a little there will accumulate to something that will help if needed. My wife too was a little hesitant about my prepping, but when we needed it, she came on board quite a bit more enthusiasticly. Keep the chin up.

      • Thanks so much for the encouraging comments. It is nice to get positive feedback that lets me know that what I am doing has value.

        elt2jv-My husband doesn’t dispute the validity of my reasons for prepping. He just says that I could never do enough to make a real difference. I going to just keep on keeping on…..KWIM?

  81. PATTON**** says:

    Went to Restaurant Depot this week. Picked up some meats in bulk, a large log of Velveeta Cheese (which needs no refridge until opened), a case of table salt for long term storage. Looked for a large bag of yellow popcorn for long-term stores, but no luck, they discountinued carrying it. Also picked up some spice. Also went to local supermarket and picked up canned goods and Knoor dried side dishes on sale for larder. Picked up some large capacity (4-30 round and 3 20-round) magazines for rifle.

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      Patton….We get our popcorn in 50lb bags at Sams Club.We have to package it for long term tho,of course.Its a good quality.Grinds fine and the taste is terrific.

      • AZ rookie prepper says:

        Patton and Rhonda Sue, I’ve seen both your comments and other folks comments at other times on purchasing popcorn, and I am super curious, why is it you buy popcorn instead of regular dried corn? How is it used? Are you saving it to use as popcorn or for other purposes? My brain is whirling with possibilities but really want to know your thinking on this. I love popcorn as a popped treat and make my own cinnamon popcorn and cheese popcorn at times…just have an itchin to know if it can be re-purposed too.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          In case nobody else comes back to answer your question, I’ll give it a go. I believe they use the popcorn for making corn meal. They grind the popcorn, then use it for making corn bread, corn muffins, etc.

        • Rhonda Sue says:

          AZ…….I used to use the dent corn.Never knew any better until a friend turned me on to the popcorn.There really is a big difference in the texture and the taste.I grind it and use it just like you would use any other cornmeal.Try it…you will see and taste the difference.Bonus……ALWAYS we have popcorn for the grands when they visit.

          • AZ rookie prepper says:

            Rhonda Sue and Lint Picker, thanks for the info. I’ve got to get my mind thinking of “duel purpose” foods and usage. Just because its labeled “popcorn”, I should remember first it IS “corn”….I learn so much here. Again, thank you for the help.

      • Tomthetinker says:

        Rhonda Sue: How dense… or.. how may buckets did that popcorn fill? 100# of wheat or rice pack 3. I thought dent corn would be simple but surfing in here tells me to many fungi, etc come with it to make it a good idea. So.. popcorn is it.

        • Rhonda Sue says:

          Tomthethinker……I buy the 50lb bags at Sams.I get the buckets free of charge from a bakery.The buckets are close to 5 gallons I do believe.I use mylar bags and oxygen absorbers to pack them for long term.The bucket in the kitchen pantry gets rotated out with the long term stuff.Am I making any sense?I have never had a problem with mold of any kind.Of course this family goes thru alot of cornmeal.I use 2 buckets per 50lb bag.Doesnt fill them up all the way.Like I said I am not sure of the size of the bucket.I like the popcorn.It just seems to make a better ground meal.I used to buy the dent corn.Used the last of it a few months back.Hope that helps some.

      • I have read that the popcorn is too hard to grind and rough on the grinders and that’s why we should go with corn instead.

        Apparently popcorn has a very hard shell as compared to regular corn.

        You haven’t had any trouble with it?

  82. mindyinds says:

    As always, I am so impressed by the energy and enthusiasm of the bloggers on this site, very inspiring for me to get off my tush! This week I read Alas, Babylon as recommended here; had read it as a teenager in the 1960’s and am encouraging my teenager to read it now. Also ordered 6 large jars of Vit. C powder which my hubby and I both take regularly for specific conditions, Puritan’s Pride. The rolling blackouts last week shook me up a bit – Central Texas is not used to days on end of temperatures in the teens. Am renewing my campaign to have a little wood-burning stove installed. Went through my front pantry: whatever had a use-by date in 2011 that I know we probably won’t eat went to the local food pantry.

    Trafal, you’re in my thoughts and prayers.

  83. Crazy Joe says:

    Am taking over , hopefully , as moderator of a website called
    ” GREENHOUSE ” . My first BA degree is ” Grounds / Nursery Management – including greenhouse operations ” . I was introduced to Alibris.com about 2 months ago . I was able to find a 158 dollar college text book on Greenhouse Operations and Management for 2 dollars . 2 weeks ago I ordered it , it came 3 days ago and am now reading it in preparation of a post that I will write next week . I haev always preached to gardeners that having a cold frame or greenhouse is the heart of a garden . It can put the home gardener way ahead on not only planting time but in having more seeds germinate / survive thus more crops thus more food . I have not read much of this stuff since college . I have been doing it for myself these past 30 years but on a web page I felt I needed to brush up on some more technical stuff in case someone smart asks me a question ! ! ! ! OH GEE I better get my own cold frame back up . That will be next weeks prep if no snow .
    Crazy Joe in South Jersey

  84. Hang in there Trafal (and everybody else). I have a spouse who is “luke warm” to the “prepping” concept. Fortunately, I have a history of being different and sometimes “spot on” as it relates to human nature. We also have a child with special needs and I understand some of the unique challenges managing that situation can entail. However, keep “grinding and moving forward”. You are a hero to your family (even though they may not mention enough, if at all). Every movement forward will give you and yours more peace of mind and security to survive whatever we all have to manage in the future. Best of luck to us all!

  85. Mountain lady says:

    Did not do much purchasing, but did get two cases of canning jars and rings at the local thrift store for $2.50. Could not pass that one up. I also prepared my order to Seed Savers. Will mail it after I get my SS check in my account. It is starting to cool a bit. Still in the 60s, but calling for rain Sat. night. I sure hope we get some more good rain for this rainy season. Hope to do more later in the week.

  86. Mountain lady says:

    M D, I think you may get up to 400 this week. I found it amazing at how fast this blog has been growing. It is good to see more and more people realizing that we may not have much time left to prepare.

  87. templar knight says:

    It is an inspiration to see the people who are prepping here who have special needs children, and are not complaining, but leading the way when it comes to prepping and preparing their families for difficult times. Maybe it’s because you have been through difficult times, I don’t know, but yall sure make me feel mighty small when I start feeling sorry for myself.

    I tip my hat to you, and wish you all the best, but I have a feeling that it is your character that keeps you going, and you won’t need any good wishes from me. But thanks, anyway. It’s funny how you can find what you least expect when and where you aren’t looking for it.

  88. Sorry for not putting these comments in the correct portion of this thread but the list is getting to long to dig through so I’ll place them all here at the end.

    There have been several canning questions lately. I’d highly recommend anyone with questions on canning to join the Yahoo Group Canning2. The list owner/moderator is a friend of mine. They do a great job and you can trust anything you read there. Just remember it is a canning list. There are some preppers on it but some who are not as well.

    I believe the Muslim faith also has ritualistic mutilation of female childrens genitals. Seems they don’t like for their ladies to enjoy sex.
    That is from memory and if I’m wrong about it I apologize in advance.

    I saw a video once on You tube done by a woman who was a convert from the Muslim faith/life. She laid out in great detail how they first send peaceful folks into an area and have them to get along and make friends. Then they send a few more. Once they reach a certain % of the population they start to politely request accomidations for their faith. Then they bring in a few more and when they reach another population goal they start to make more, less polite requests. Then when they get to an even larger percentage they start to demand concessions. It is all carefully planned and scripted. The “nice” ones that came first continue their role as friendly folks. It’s the later ones that cause trouble. All by design. I wish I could find that video again but haven’t been able to. Maybe it was pulled down.

    Lastly, thanks for the suggestion of using pop corn. I’ve been wanting to put back some corn for grinding but was worried about buying feed corn that might have mold in it.

    • The policy of infiltration you describe is called Da’wah. It also includes the stratified teaching of the Qu’ran–restricting the quotations, sermons and outward behavior to the abrogated (nullified) sections of the text.

      Stratification seduces new recruits and the unfamiliar. Later comes the revelation of the ninth Sura and the policy of abrogation that replaces the flowery, tolerant and peaceful portions of Islam with bloodthirsty filth.

      You also mention what has come to be known as FGM, female genital mutilation. It usually includes removal of all external female genitalia, though it varies by ethnicity and region. It is a universal tenet enshrined in the Qu’ran.

      We are talking about an all encompassing ideology that covers all aspects of life and directs all efforts towards world domination. It cannot be legitimately compared with any other philosophy. Cultural equivalency fails dramatically in the presence of an overwhelming difference between Islam and all other philosophies.

      Regarding above comments, please defer to Luddite Jean on this one. She lives in the UK, where she can plainly see the effects of Da’wah and the subsequent failure of multiculturalism.

      Please also see the news article linked on the Drudge Report with mandatory classes in Arabic language and culture in a Dallas-Fort Worth school district. Look at who funded it.

      Last, regarding corn storage: realize that straight ground corn is not particularly nutritious compared to nixtamalized corn. Does anyone or has anyone on this site had any experience grinding nixtamal? I have heard that it will clog Corona mills when wet and I haven’t yet found a ready description of processing except use of either a food processor or manual stones.

      • OhioPrepper says:

        I’ve heard of this being used prior to cooking and eating the corn, but can it be processed this way and then dried and stored? I grew up eating hominy, and I know hominy grits (dried and ground hominy) seem to be almost a staple food in the southern US.

      • Hunker-Down says:

        Can you name a country in the history of this planet, with a majority of Muslims where Sharia Law is absent?

    • I posted a question above for the folks grinding pop corn. Everything I’ve read says that it is too hard to grind. Many grinder manuals recommend against grinding popcorn.

      I have also heard that popcorn has a higher moisture content than regular corn (makes sense – so it can pop). That can make it go rancid faster and/or have mold problems.

      I read that if you are going to store it, you should dry it out before you put it in buckets. Dry it in a dehydrator or in a low temp oven. By doing that however, it may not pop, you should do it if you want to grind it – but again, make sure your grinder can handle it.

      Here’s a good link. http://www.ifood.tv/blog/how-to-dry-popcorn-for-long-term-storage

      Here is an exerpt from it. “Popcorns must be protected from moisture in order to avoid significant fungal and microbial activity. Hence, store them at 14.5% moisture so that it doesn’t affect its popping volume too. Dry them 13.5-12.5% for long-term storage.”

      • Rhonda Sue says:

        Thanks for the info,GA MOM,I am going to contiue doing it this way.I have a friend that is LDS…and she has been storing popcorn for about 28 years and has never had a problem with it.I called her and relayed the info you posted to her and she said she opened a can of popcorn just yesterday that had a year date of 1989 and it was fine.There is so much conflicting info around its really hard to know what to do.Thank you for takin’ the time to look up the info for us.That is one of the things I really enjoy about this blog,so many caring and helpful people.For me…its still popcorn.

        • No problem. For super long storage I’d be a bit worried but for short or medium term its probably OK. I’d be much happier using this for grinding corn than the bulk stuff I bought at the feed store lol!

          • Tomthetinker says:

            I have done some reading on the net and for the most part the story on ‘dent’ corn is that it requiers far more prep to use than ‘pop’ corn. Dent seems to harbor far more fungi and assorted bugs than pop. On the whole of what I have read and asked of the bean and grain farmers here in ohio…. the corn I bucket will be of the ‘pop’ variety…. good luck out there.

            • Rhonda Sue says:

              I think you will like it….You really need to try it now and become used to grinding it for use now before hard times hit.I use it all time…rotate..rotate!

  89. This is the most useful prepping video I’ve seen lately!

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Interesting video, but it’s really not a secret. Back in the 1990’s we used to make our own with powdered iron and finely ground (non-iodized) salt. Looking at the size of commercial ones we use today, what we did back then was way overkill, but in this case it’s cheap and overkill is good.

    • The brainwashing wore off... says:

      Thanks for sharing Charlie! I found it quite interesting that instant hand warmers contain the same ingredients and operate on the same principal as O2 absorbers. Cheaper too, when you only need a small quantity of absorbers.

  90. Denise in Northern Ireland says:

    Well this week has been very challenging, as you know my husband was attacked a few months ago. While his wounds have recovered, unfortunately his mental health has not. My husband is 65 and it has really taken its toll on him being attacked in our home and last saturday
    he had a nervous breakdown. So for the next few weeks our prepping will be on hold. I will let you know how things go.


    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      So very sorry to learn of your husband’s continuing problems. It is a shame that he will suffer far longer than the perpetrator ever will, even if caught. My prayers go out to you and your husband. Stay strong, stay safe, and God bless.

    • man thats terrible! who would attack someone 65? im really sorry that happened to your husband and hope the mental pain heals soon.

      • OhioPrepper says:

        “who would attack someone 65?” In simple terms, a coward. Afraid to attack someone younger or obviously more menacing. People like this will eventually pick on the wrong person, get the thrashing they deserve, and spend some jail time; although probably not enough.

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Sorry to hear that. Hopefully he will regain his confidence soon. Tell him we are all pulling for him. Don’t let the Bas…. win!

    • Rhonda Sue says:

      I guess I missed the post informing us of this…sorry.What a terrible thing for the two of you to deal with.I hope he gets to feelin’ better soon.While he is recovering..physically and mentally…you need to take care of yourself as well….get lots of rest…if possible and eat right.I hope the both of you have family to rally around you .Take care ,Denise.

    • Denise – I am so very sorry to read about your husband facing still more trials. I hope that with care and some peace he will make a full and speedy recovery. I hope also that you are getting the support you need.

    • templar knight says:


      I am so sorry. I will miss your prepping reports from across the pond, so I hope you won’t be gone too long. In any event, you and your husband will be in our thoughts and prayers here at MD’s blog. God Bless!

    • Mountain lady says:

      Denise, you and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers. Hope you will be back soon. You will be missed.

    • I just saw your post on revisiting this weeks wdydtp.
      Really sorry to hear that. I know all of us will keep you in our prayers.

  91. For those of us who might have or have been tempted to post pictures of our preps or retreat using a cell phone camera or some modern digital cameras please watch this video.


    • Thanks Charlie! Thats a little scary. Fortunately for those who know me… I have yet to figure out how to take a picture with my cell phone… slight technological incompetence…

  92. Tomthetinker says:

    MD: So…. If this is the ‘third’… most popular Blog regarding ‘preps’ and everything else we hash over in here. Why is it ya can’t enjoy the kind of interpersonal communications we have in.. ‘here’.. while visiting the other two? What am I missing? Ok everybody,… not you MD, tell me who and or what the other two blogs are…… Rawles, APN… ? I’m not trying to toot anybodies horn, reputation, credit score, blog or point of view. I gotta work all day and try to sleep part of the night….. so Do let me know what I have apparently missed if you would……….. well crappola…. it’s after 10:oo!

  93. highdesertlivin says:

    The amount of posts directed at undesirable religious sects Is preposterous , concidering how much damage , loss and death can be attributed to our true ruling party (bank of america , Aig ,ect ). Its time to look at the true threats , foreign & domestic ,I say the domestic fat cats have done more damage to this country than any other foreign threat . So bag the witch hunt and educate yourselves . Be safe

    • templar knight says:

      Pointing out the danger of creeping Islamism isn’t a witch hunt IMHO. More people need to be aware, not less. As for educating myself, I’m a TEA Party member, a fiscal conservative, a college graduate, a believer in the Constitution, a proponent of a much smaller, limited government, a rancher, a prepper, and a Christian. Not neccessarily in that order.

      As for the TBTF companies like AIG, they are made possible by, and are a creature of, Big Government.

  94. Tomthetinker says:

    Hey in here: Communications………. i.e. ham in the long run. CB in the short. I’m looking for imput form those of you that have already done what I plan to do for March. concensus on equip. CB signal amps etc. I want to run a 12 vdc system via 110vac12vdc inverter / solar 12vdc.
    In advance……. Thank You all

  95. OhioPrepper says:

    Nearly all amateur radio equipment and the CB’s that I have run on 12VDC. They’re basically designed to run mobile in a vehicle with a 12V electrical system, so the 12 bolts isn’t a problem. As to amplifiers for the CB’s, I don’t know if any are still around. They are technically illegal, and since CB radio is not the large fad it once was, I suspect the equipment isn’t as prolific as it once was. Rather than going for more power, go for the highest elevation you can and you’ll get better local coverage that way. A station with an antenna placed low running a lot of power is called an alligator, big mouth and little ears. Antenna height and lower power will give you additional distance, and allow you to hear those distant stations who can hearyou.
    Since they have removed the Morse code requirement for an amateur license it really isn’t that hard to get one. The code was always a big barrier to some folks. As for the tests, the questions for each class all come from individual test pools. The current pool questions are available here: http://www.arrl.org/question-pools. The classes of license available are Technician, General, & Extra, and I would highly recommend that you try to get the general as fast as you can. The technician class allows operation on most frequencies above 50 MHz, while the general class license opens up additional spectrum below 50 MHz Operations above 60 MHz are generally used for local comms, while below 50 MHz allows world wide communications. A frequency chart is available for download at: http://www.arrl.org/graphical-frequency-allocations. I prefer the color one. You will also note license classes of N (novice) and A (advanced) in the list. Although these classes are no longer offered, persons who already had these classes of license were able to keep them. As to equipment, that’s a big subject to respond to in a simple rely post.
    Hope this helps a little.

    • Tomthetinker says:

      Thank You Ohio. and speaking of Ohio….. and antenna Height… I live on the cookee sheet of north America….. I can get it on the roof….. 30′ hope it’s high enough….

      • OhioPrepper says:

        Ha, I live not far from the highest point in Ohio, if you think 1800 feet is high 🙂 It actually doesn’t matter where you live, since everything is with respect to you. The antenna height is usually measured as HAAT (Height Above Average Terrain), so the higher you can get it locally, the better. 30 feet isn’t much, but it’s better than 20. I can get up about 55 feet, and that gives coverage for perhaps a 15 mile radius on the 2 Meter (144-148 MHz) band. I still lose mobile stations if they take a dip on the roads, but otherwise the comms is pretty solid.

  96. Matt in Oklahoma says:

    I read alot of stuff where folks “replace or subsitute” things like handwarmers for oxy absorbers or cheaper zip lock plastic bags for mylar etc etc.
    Guys this is your food you or your loved ones are going to eat. Why skimp on already cheap items and chance what you are doing?
    Tell me one food, drug, or any manufacturer that puts hand warmers in their packaging. Why do you think that is knowing they will take the cheapest route possible? What food company stores their food in plastic for 20 years? They are in it for profit and do not take the shortcuts you all are doing because it’s NOT SAFE! I mean really your gonna put metal flakes in with your food to remove oxygen and store it? Yep metal thats what is needed after all the organic growing. WOW
    If you do not know what you are doing just buy it from someone who does. There are a ton of companies and people who have been doing this for 20+years and eat what they store.
    Off the soap box now, keep preparing but be smart and don’t be to mad at me I want you to be alive at the end.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      Matt in Ok, I agree. This is our lives we’re talking about. Be safe about storing your food, a few extra $ spent now will save a whole lot of grief and money down the road.

  97. Hi everyone.I just recieved an email with this link.One I think everyone should see…..http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/obama-orders-military-to-prepare-for-spring-food-riots/

    • Matt in Oklahoma says:

      Huh, there are a bunch of other Military folks on here. Anyone preparing and training and diverting resources to jump on other Americans?
      The world is scary enough already

      • templar knight says:

        Matt, my son is on active duty in Washington, D.C., and when I posed him this question a little while ago, he is not aware of any such preparations. I keep hearing these rumors, usually along the lines that the military is preparing for civil unrest.

        My son’s unit has not received any training of this sort. Does anyone else have relatives or friends who are now on active duty? Have they participated in any training of this sort?

        • Matt in Oklahoma says:

          Templar Knight this is exactly why I dropped out of the “survivalist” community and had a hard time coming around and opening up to blogging. It seems that there are an overabundance of “conspiracy” folks out there that accused me directly in person, during a meeting, of going to be the Soldier who was going to kick in the doors and go house to house taking guns away in the late 80s and early 90s. At the time I also served as a Reserve Police Officer in our small underfunded community, something I thought was honorable until those years, and it didn’t seem to help my case. That meeting ended in violence and ended me even talking to folks. I am retired now but nothing has changed. It pains me to think that someone believes that they raised their children to join the Military and attack American Citizens, the very ones we swore an oath to protect. Anyone ever wonder why the Egyption Army just sat around on the tank and did nothing? Because the Sons didn’t want to attack their Mothers and Fathers!
          Soldiers and LEOs are not the enemy everyone thinks they are. Conspiracy Theorist with no proof but large boogieman believing audiences are.
          Unfortunatley I have also heard this type of rhetoric in person again this week as well as this forum. It didn’t end well either. It appears I may need to leave again.

          • I live in an area where about 150,000 military personel are within a 30 mile radius. I’ve often wondered just what they would do in a shtf situation. Many of them live in my neighborhood. I like to think they will stand with “we the people”. Along that line of thinking, are any of you familiar with the “Oath Keepers” movement.


            These are military and police personel who have sworn an oath outside of their official capacity to defend and protect the constitution and NOT to take arms against citizens.

          • The problem is not that the U.S. military would fire on innocent countrymen most would not unless they have been mislead. The trouble is that they will go into battle mode because they have received orders to take down a dangerous domestic terrorist or someone they are told is threatening the country even if that person is only a survivalist who is stockpiling food and gear.

            “I’m an American fighting man and my duties are to protect it against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign…”.

            The question is who makes the decision as to who those domestic enemies are. Those in power are masters at demonizing those THEY don’t like.

            Here is a link to a forum with some interesting resonses http://www.wikilaw3k.org/forum/Military/US-Military-people-Would-you-open-fire-on-American-citizens-if-ordered-to-do-so-327019.htm

            • Matt in Oklahoma says:

              I know my oath and the enemy would be the one who turned on the people not the people. The people are the United States. There would be a split within for sure as there are liberal minds everywhere however we are no where near this. Domestic can be anyone including leadership gone rouge. My retirement has changed nothing, I will still defend if needed.

          • AZ rookie prepper says:

            Matt in Ok, I hope you dont “drop out” of this blog, I value your insights and like reading your input, particularly on the “wdydtptw” portion. I spent 20+ years in the army, retiring about 10 years ago and have since worked on an army base. I keep my ears to the “tracks” so to speak, and have heard nothing about regular army units training to kick in doors domestically. National Guard MP units on the other hand, part of their mission is to train for LE activities, such as riot control. This has been true for many many years, going back to the Vietnam war time. They were used extensively during the rodney king riots in California, mostly to back up the regular LEO there. Some regular units were activated and sent to CA too, but to do things like help process damage claims, translation support (amazing how many “americans” cannot speak english), man the radios, etc. Those active duty army units were not given weapons or ammo, no door kicking involved. Also, there is a very seriously taken law on the books called “posse comitatus”, that says regular military cannot be used to perform LE functions within the U.S. boundaries. One of the reasons that regular units are not easily used to protect the border against illegal aliens. I personally hope you will reconsider leaving our community.

          • Rhonda Sue says:

            Whew….sure didnt mean to step on anyones toes .i am sorry if I did.I have military in my family too.As matter a fact my hubby is retired Army.I just thought it was interestin’……..my boo-boo.

            • Rhonda Sue – I read the link and was interested but I do not know that source and don’t know their bias, however, that being said, I believe that the good thing about this blog is that these things are brought forward and discussed – especially if you are concerned about them. So, put it out there.

              In the case of this article there was a lot of general information and was really light on specifics and attribution, but the reality is that food prices are going up and things are going to get really scary in some parts of the world. Remember how much of Pakistan and Australia have been flooded out. Remember the droughts that have been hitting other countries and the military regimes that take food aid and then don’t distribute it… How our respective governments (I am a country north of you) are going to handle it is anyones guess but as food prices go up here at home and food stamps no longer cover the cost, things could get interesting.

      • OhioPrepper says:

        If you read the details, it discusses providing support for other countries. Some UN boondoggle I suspect.

    • AZ rookie prepper says:

      Rhonda Sue, I would read anything “skeptically” that indicates the US military is preparing for spring food riots. They are frankly speaking real busy already, not that they need another mission. I did a yahoo search after reading that article, and found some articles relating to various world leaders being concerned with food prices and potential trouble, I think we can all see that coming. Nothing specifically on the US military training to handle that. Additionally, I have been involved with the US army in one capacity or another for the last 30+ years, and have a pretty good handle on whats going on within…see my post to Matt in Oklahoma reference what I know locally. I am not saying it could never happen, but, taken in perspective, I think someone somewhere added 2+2 and came up with 1000.

      • Matt,

        “I know my oath and the enemy would be the one who turned on the people not the people.” My concern is with who makes the decision as to who has turned on the people will it be the grunt on the ground or some black suit in DC or the Pentagon.

        No doubt there would be many military people who would not fire even if under direct orders to do so, but many would especially if they were told that the target was a threat to be taken out.

  98. Lake Lili…….Yes,I thought it was interesting.

  99. Wooow… less than 100 comments!!… I have to take advantage of this and write my comment on your blog… ok… what should I write??… mmm, I don’t think my criminal history would help me gain your sympathy, uh?? haha… anyway, I just want you to know that I believe you’re a terrific blogger and writer… so, thanks for that.. now I know I’m not a robot. well, this comment is gettin’ too long to be read, so i’ll stop now…

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