What did you do to prep this week?

First of all I would like to thank William G, Nesia L and Hugo S for their generous donations this week via PayPal. Thank you your support of this blog and the Wolf Pack is very much appreciated.

As you may have noted after reading yesterdays post, we’ve added several great prizes in our current non-fiction writing contest, I had to pull a few strings and twist a few arms, but now instead of having a good contest we have a great one.

Now get busy writing – someone is going to win (actually three people) and it might as well be you…

Okay, let’s see what did I do to prep this week…

  • Hauled two pickup loads of a composted mix of chicken, horse and cow manure and scattered it over my new garden area.
  • Bought a 500 round brick of Winchester .22 ammo at the local Wal-Mart.
  • Ordered a “25 Chick Special” of New Hampshire Reds these will arrive next spring 😀 .
  • Read this article, this one and this one.

That’s the highlights of my week, now it’s your turn – what did you do to prep this week ?:-)

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  1. just some suggestions. if your a chewer, consider gettin the plug tobacco. you can get plenty of chews from one brick. also, if you dont feel like haulin rolls and rolls of toilet paper, try old phonebooks. theyre heavier, but they pack together alot better and you can carry alot more than a roll of tp. i came up with a great way to carry .22 ammo. take a .20 guage spent shell and a .12 guage spent shell. cut off the crimps on the .20 guage, put 4 .22 bullets in the bottom(stagger them), put 4 .22 bullets on top of the 4 on bottom (also staggered), and put the .20 shell in the .12 shell. it holds them good and tight and now you can use a shotgun shell pouch/bandolier/whatever to hold your .22 bullets. 8 will fit in a .20 guage shell. also if you want to waterproof it, just put a o-ring on it. i came up with a idea for self defense/non lethal shotgun shells. using a knife, open the crimps, take out the slugs/bbs, pack in cinnamon,red pepper,paprika,capsacin,crushed up fiberglass, sand etc etc (whatever you choose..just some suggestions),and fold your crimps back down and seal with candle wax. you could even use flour or cement powder in place of smoke bombs. i have no idea how these contents will affect the mechanics or barrel of the gun, they are just ideas. i will be getting a cb radio and possibly handheld cb radios and 2way radios for comms. i plan on stickin with my truck as long as possible. any suggestions or ideas to make these better is welcomed!!!

  2. Justin. I bought a few cell phone carriers at the dollar store. The size fits a 50 round pack of 22 lr perfectly and the belt clip affixes to a rifle sling.cheap, effective,simple.

    • axelsteve,

      Sounds like the star of a great guest post “cheap .22 ammo carriers” how to make your own.

    • that idea is alot more effecient. but it can hold more than just bullets. matches, flat batteries, screwdriver bits, keep tinder dry etc etc. but thanks!

      • another idea…for fire starting, get a welders torch striker. its got a flint and steel and it will spark all the time. all you have to do is squeeze your hand and you got a spark

  3. breadmomma says:

    The writing thing is paying off for me, got closer to paying off Uncle Sugar and had some left over so this week, I stashed more silver, more beans and bought 4 more trays to add to the dehydrator…more quart containers to store my drys in..mouse proof…an apple peeler and slicer to make managing bushel of apples from DH auntie’s tree last week…waiting for the crabbing season to start up here on the Oregon coast…picked up a case of smoked oysters and some smoked albacore and smoked chinook along with regular chinook from my fisherman/canner buddy for my two son’s back east…they are also preparing for the future and living 1900 miles from the coast is a hardship for them, but their work is there…shipped these to them for their christmas treats…canned more for myself as well…trying to figure out how to can crabmeat without it getting overcooked in the process…
    planning on a jerky-a-thon this week with the deer and some good grass fed beef from another rancher buddy…and finishing up the mushroom drying madness…figure I have a years supply of boletus and chantrelles now…tried out my new bean sources…the gigantes were awesome, and the scarlet runners, calypso’s and colorado river beans all heirloom and all from Purcell Farms out of Idaho are amazing…a little pricey, but they are not treated and are all sproutable and growable so will be testing that theory out in the spring and summer of 2012..
    so I was a little too busy to worry about Black Friday..or spend Friday as well call it…stayed home and enjoyed my family’s company…much more satisfying!
    hope all had a great Thanksgiving…

  4. Pretty much all I did this week was discuss survival with the hubs. He pointed out that the area we are living in isn’t conducive to “hunkering down” situations. It’s either a hurricane bad enough that the house will be unlivable and the food ruined, or nuclear fallout.

    He had the additional idea of getting motorized hurricane shutters for our next place; really low-profile.

    I told him about wanting the hand-cranked phone charger. We also decided on buying a proper container for potable water instead of wondering about plastic-leach. Both purchases are held off for closer to next hurricane season.

    I hate guns, so I’m leaving it up to the hubby to narrow the choices and then drag me to the range to see if I have a preference. I understand the importance of being competent enough that I hurt an intruder instead of myself.

    I do want to find an archery range and learn how to fletch my own arrows. It would be much more practical to have an easily-sustainable ammo for hunting small game.

    • Kelekona,

      Driving a car is more dangerous than owning a gun – once you start shooting your fear will go away.

    • Kelekona,
      In the 90s I bought a pistol for my wife and took her to the range to practice. She never said anything to me but she told the kids that she hated it and I forced her to get it. After the initial outing she would never go to the range.

      Fast forward to 9/11/01. She changed her attitude about the pistol and started asking to go to the range. It is loaded and kept where she can get to it.

      A gun is a tool. So is a hammer or an arrow. It is best to adapt now while you have the luxury of time.

    • Kelekona,

      I took a women’s only gun class a couple of weeks ago and the experience really helped me. We had half classroom time to learn about gun safety, the different kinds of guns and ammo, gun laws and the other half of the time was spent on the range.

      I am completely for guns. My brother and his girlfriend were walking out of the mall through a dimly lit parking lot. Some guy came at them with a screwdriver. My brother told his girlfriend to get in the car and lock the doors. And then he pulled his Glock. The guy dropped the screwdriver and froze. The guy was looking to rob folks when they came out of the mall with all their packages. Because my brother carries, he didn’t get robbed or stabbed with the screwdriver.

      I have actually come to the conclusion that owning a gun and knowing how to use it is a moral obligation. If you are able-bodied and sound of mind, you have an obligation to protect yourself and your own. By putting down attackers, you stop the elderly and others who cannot defend themselves, from getting attacked. Basically, if everyone carried, there would be less crime. The consequences of threat to life should be immediate and fatal.

      • Amen to your last paragraph, Gayle!

        • breadmomma says:

          ditto…took the concealed carry class here recently and it was a good tune up for handling my guns…keeping it safe and sound on the wet Oregon coast.

  5. I need some more homework advice from the Wolf Pack. I am sort of blowing OPSEC this week and doing my last speech of the semester on being prepared. I feel like I am relatively safe because none of the kids in the class have any idea where I live or even what my last name is (I’m guessing most of them don’t even know my first name). I don’t have any problems coming up with content for the speech but my problem is coming up with my sources. I am obviously referencing this site but I have to have 3 more that are considered credible. I figure I’ll use FEMA but beyond that I’m at a loss since most of my info is either from here or from my head. Any suggestions?

    As far as prepping this week, I managed to snag some pretty good deals the day before Thanksgiving so I have a lot of new baking supplies and canned goods added to the pantry.

    Not sure if this counts as prepping or not, but the hubby replaced all of our circuits in the breaker box and ran some partial new wiring. He is still working on the rest of it so we will eventually have all new wiring in the trailer. He also replaced the four big fuses that are outside at the post. He took one of the old ones with him to the hardware store and the guy helping him looked at it and told him they hadn’t carried those in over 15 years, so I’m guessing it was time for an upgrade anyway.

    One of the plans for the wiring includes running a red outlet that is hooked up to a solar panel so we could still have power to the fridge and freezer in a grid down situation. We’re still working on the exact specifics on this, but at least I have him thinking about it now.

    • try USGOV.org they always have a set of rules, also lds.org the mormons have a ton of ideas

      good luck on speech


    • thesurvivalmom is another good site… lots of lists. foodstoragemadeeasy is fluffy and geared toward newbies.

      A few homesteading and thrifty living blogs I have encountered tend to cross over with prepper skills.

    • Nor Cal Ray says:

      American Red Cross also has a good deal of info.

    • Tigerlily,

      I would recommend breaking prepping down into several categories: perhaps guns, food, water, tools and gear, and gardening. That way you could have a source for each category–e.g., you could site the LDS food storage calculator for under the “food” heading. You could cite your state’s requirements for concealed weapons permit under “guns”. You could site M.D.’s site for gear. I am sure you could find a good site on survival gardening–perhaps one that talks about the differences between real seeds and GMO crap.

      I really am a book worm nerd.

      • Tigerlily,

        Instead of thinking in terms of writing a speech for a class think in terms of what websites you would direct a new prepper to. Use M.D.’s book for topic headers. Where can you go to sign up for a first-aid class? Where can you go to learn home canning? Where can you go to learn how to garden? Where can you go to learn how to shoot?

        • I would have done something more along those lines, but we have a specific format we are required to follow for the class as far as how it is written. He gave us free reign with the topic as long as it was a persuasive speech with a call to action and we have to use logos, ethos, and pathos. Plus I have an 8 minute time limit. Basically, I have to scare them to death with all the reasons they should prep, and then tell them how in only 8 minutes, so I kept it down to food, water, and heat/cooking source. I’m going to direct them here in my conclusion so they can learn all about the rest of it for themselves.

          • Hunker-Down says:


            If you want to scare them, try;
            No groceries, no medicine, no doctor, no dentist, no running water, no flushing toilets, no heat. So….how are you going to keep from getting sick?

            • Start off with asking them. ” If the power went out for just 3 weeks, what would they do?” What is in the pantry and freezer? Could they flush their toilets, could they take a shower, could they brush their teeth. Can they cook? Is there gas in their cars? Do they have cash for a motel room? Just how inconvenienced would they be? Where do you live? What natural disaster is most likely to occur? Use that.

            • Good questions, Worrisome. Tigerlily, you could also add, what in your frig would remain eatable after 48 hours?

          • [have to scare them to death with all the reasons they should prep,]
            show them this

            • I saw this photo many years ago, and it changed me in very important ways. I eat every grain and piece of food off my plate now, and think of this child regularly. The amount of food we waste is incredible. BTW…as it says on that page, the journalist who took this pic committed suicide a little while later. He had seen so much suffering, and been unable to do anything about it.

            • LurkerBob,

              I think you are right here. Tigerlily, this would scare the crap out of most college students. You could ask, “What separates us from these folks?” and “What would you do if the trucks stopped running?”

            • That photo just brought tears to my eyes. That has to be one of the worst things I have ever seen. I am definitely using it.
              Gayle, I just finished my intro before I logged back on here and one of the lines in it is exactly “What would you do if the trucks stopped running?” I also mention that all the McDonalds would close and Walmart’s shelves would be empty. If that doesn’t scare a college kid, I don’t know what will.

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Lurker, had my share of seeing that to last 10 lifetimes. Escorting UN food shipments because the klans and warlords would raid the convoys. I saw as a a 21yo what happens when armed group of gangs (klans) took what they wanted from who they wanted while children starved.

              Chance favors the prepared!

            • LurkerBob, shocking and profound photo – had not seen it before.

              Almost 20 years have passed since it was taken – yet things are as bad now, as back then…the despair continues.

            • Tigerlily,

              Do a Google image search for “Katrina” and “empty store shelves”. That will scare folks.

            • One more thing, Tigerlily. You don’t have to blow OpSec; you can note that FEMA recommends that every American has 2 weeks worth of supplies because emergency personnel might not get there within 72 hours.

      • Oh, and best thing about Wyoming…the only requirements here for concealed carry is that you must be a legal resident over 18 with no felony. We don’t have permits.

    • Tigerlily,

      Here’s a source that you absolutely need to site under the heading: do you know what happens when the trucks stop running?


    • Rob in Ontario says:

      Tigerlily- here s a little story to tell them —– there was a weather broadcast for heavy rains and possible flooding – this couple took no heed in it and trusted in the Lord to protect them- later that day as the water was coming in the basement their neigbours stopped by and asked them to leave with them they refused – a few hours later the fire dept stopped by as the water was on the main floor and they refusedto leave- “we trust in the Lord to protect us” – that night as they are sitting on the roof of the house the police came along with a boat and asked them to get in and they refused and said “we trust in the lord to protect us”- early in the morning as they cling to their anttena the coast guard fly over and throw a rope down and yell climb up- they refuse and said “the Lord will protect and save us ” as they walk thru the pearly gates and ask God why he didn’t save them he said” I sent weather reports and sent your neighbours over and the fire dept and the police and the coast guard'” moral is to look and listen and help yourself and accept help but until that arrives your on your own

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Rob in Ontario, love that one. Seen it before in different variations and situations but gets the point across very well.

  6. Hope everyone enjoyed their feasts! We sure did! My oldest daughter showed up for our meal with a tooth ache, dug around in my GHB, gave her the clove oil. She was skeptical, but was amazed how much it helped!

    Prepping was really slow this week, but we did get our 225 gallon caged water tank hooked up to down spout, it rained last night can’t wait to see how much we collected.

    Plants are continuing very well in the greenhouse. And we had fresh carrots from our Fall garden with our Thanksgiving meal.

    Had friends over last night, shared my GHB contents with them. They are all trusted friends that I hope will get on board!

    Hoping that I can get on with more preps this next week!

    Everyone be safe and prep on!

  7. What is the safest most inexpensive way to buy silver? What can I expect to be paying now? I am interested in buying silver coins. Is the price dictated primarily by the spot price? What sort of margin above spot is standard? Thanks Wolf Pack. Russ

    • Russ8541

      If you are looking for pre-1964 silver coins, expect to pay 20 times face value; for silver dollars, a bit more, somewhere between $22.00 to $25.00. Even with the silver market down, the dealers are staying with these prices. I work in estate liquidations and have this information from the silver buyers that come to our sales. I prefer the “junk silver” over buying new silver coins because of the premium and shipping expense on new coins. Also, I don’t want my purchases tracked. Look for coin shows in your area, they are held here in Florida every couple months, admission is usually free.

      • To determine what the market says coins are worth (pre-’64 or otherwise) I use Coinflation.com . It also talks about the melt value of nickles and pre’82 pennies.

  8. button crazy says:

    Hope that everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. I purchased a case of tomato sauce and corn at Wal-Mart this week. Beginning in Dec. because my husband works for Wal-Mart we get another 10% off some food purchased in the store. A lot of food sales then with sale prices that makes some items great prices. Also got a small freezer in a estate we purchased. Great size for us. I can set it on a cabinet top next to Ref. Hope everyone has a great week.

  9. The BOBs got a major tackle box upgrade after I found some small compartmentized plastic boxes on sale (2 for a buck). Had to find something to put in them. Besides the usual bobbers, line, hooks, and sinkers, added a couple panfish jigs, spinners, and a bag of Gulp! artificial nightcrawlers (which sadly were too large for the little box). Reviews on the Berkley Gulp products are pretty good, and I needed something for bait if natural wasn’t available. Will have to see how the worms, goo, and plastic packaging holds up to freezing temps in the truck BOBs… Anybody have any experience with these?

    Besides that, just added about 2 cases of canned food from the After Thanksgiving sales to the pantry, candied yams and cranberry sauce mostly. And some .22 plinking with my Nephew.

    • Nor Cal Ray says:

      You might want to try the Gulp Redworms. Smaller size as well as smaller bag. Dont know about freezing but I can tell you the bag begins to separate and leak within about a year even unopened. Once opened they have a tendency to dry up within a short period of time as well as the bag leaks once opened.

  10. talked my husband into buying me a 410 shotgun, and then surprised him when I asked for a 30-06 Remington. Took them home with some extra shells to pratice with and surprised him again that I could shoot them both with near center shots at 25 yards for the 410 and 100 yards with the 30-06. The shotgun is for rabbits and pests and the 30-06 is for bigger game.
    have a great day,
    that was how I pepped this week
    ps: love the forum/blog Mr MD

  11. Heads Up: Kmart has the 12-roll package of Scott TP for $6.99.

    • Vienna (Soggy prepper) says:

      You know it’s pretty bad when I’m reading through all the posts in my email box and run across one for Scotts TP and I get all wide eyed and excited over 12 for 6.99! Which is a great price btw. Only wish we had a Kmart closer then 40 miles away!

    • Hunker-Down says:

      Super-Shopper strikes again! Thanks for the heads up, we need all the help we can get.

    • Your deal alerts are really helpful and much appreciated. Thank you, Gayle.

      • How do you store all the TP without worry of mice?? I’m still reeling from the mouse a couple of weeks ago. One mouse so far caught, but 3 weeks of cleaning out every nook and crany in the house. Thanks.

        • NorCal,

          I have three cats, and a dog who plays catch the moving thing too.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          NorCal Ray, get some of those big Rubbermaid totes and put your TP in them. They usually go on sale this time of year (for storing Christmas ornaments).

  12. I was thinking that I wasnt going to have anything to report this week, but I got to thinking about it and when I went to the store to pick up a few things for Thanksgiving dinner, I also picked up a few “extra” cans of cream of something soup, and salt. When I went to the second store (go figure, the first was out of a couple of things) I found some mashed potato pouches on sale so picked up some of those. Not much but still I added something.
    I also managed to cook my first turkey. I am happy that not only did I not poison anyone, it actually turned out really good.
    Other than that I continued to work on a couple of crochet projects and downloaded some more crochet patterns.

    • Congrat’s on the turkey. I know how you feel – it’s a nice sense of self accomplishment when everything goes well.

  13. Denise in Northern Ireland says:

    Hello M.D..
    Its been a few months since I have been on.
    Well my daughter in Australia had a little girl, and when she was two days old she turn blue. They then did alot of tests back and forward and finally have decided that she sleeps so deep that she stops breathing. So I flew out for a couple of months as it was very stressful for my DD and her OH also I needed to be there and see her incase something happened.
    I am happy to say she is doing well she sleeps on a mattress monitor that will sound an alarm when she stops breathing and also she wears little magnets on her chest which gives her a little jolt to start her heart again.I must admit I am very proud mum, my DD and her OH have been brillant while I was there they did a cpr course, also they dont panic when the alarm goes off.
    So I have returned home, my OH stayed with family on the farm so he wasnt alone.
    As you know all my children and now grandchild live in Australia, they would like us to move there. They think it will good for their Dad to have all there support .
    So thats were I am at the moment.
    I will start to prep again this week as I need to do an inventory first.
    I hope everyone is well

    M.D. Before I left your Mother was unwell, how is she now.

    God Bless

    • Denise,

      Good to hear from you again – glad your granddaughter is doing better, but that still must be stressfull. We eill all keep here in our prayers. As for my mother she is doing fine now – thank you for asking.

    • templar knight says:


      It’s a pleasure to hear from you. Many have wondered each week what might have happened to you, so we are grateful to have you back. Your family seems to be coping well with the granddaughter. Is this something she will grow out of I wonder? We will keep her in our prayers. What’s her name?

      I’m thinking out loud here, and wondering whether you and your DH might prosper in Australia. I hear it’s a wonderful place for the most part, and would be a much better place if the SHTF than where you are now. And your children would be there to support you and DH. Of course, it’s not home, and I well understand your attachment. It would be impossible for me to leave the US. For better or worse, I’m going to live and die in the land of my forefathers.

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        tk, you have perfectly expressed exactly what I was going to write in response to Denise. We are definitely on the same page, my brother.

        Denise, I’ve been wondering what happened to you. Good to read you are still alive and kicking! My suggestion: you should be with your family. It is difficult being isolated or far from those you love. Move to Oz and enjoy the support your children will provide you and your husband. Do it soon, before air travel is nonexistent. It will be lots of trouble and expense, but the rewards will undoubtedly make it worthwhile. Besides, that little granddaughter of yours needs her grandmother nearby.

        Stay in touch, please. Regards, LP.

  14. blindshooter says:

    MD, hope the trailer move is going OK? Gonna get good and cold soon……

    Worked on the last of the storm damage, still have a huge pine on whats left of a shelter. It’s not mine but the guy that owns it told me I could have a large pile of poplar boards that are holding the big pine up if I would help him get the mess cleaned up. Trimmed/pruned the old pear tree, I don’t intend on letting them go to waste next season.

    I have got to bear down and find some kind of driveway alert system, I keep catching people driving through to get to a pond behind my place. The drive is part of an easement so I can’t gate it but the guy that owns it all told me to run off anybody that’s not on a tractor. I’m going to approach him about setting a gate at the back to stop them from going through and giving him keys to the lock. He is afraid some idiot will drown and get sued, I just want to stop the traffic by my place. The drive alert is not to stop them but give me a heads up when I’m home so I can “talk” to them.

    I bought two more turkeys @ .39 lb and a flat of canned pumpkin. I give the canned pumpkin to my old dog to keep him from getting “stopped up”, he loves it.

    Hope everyone has a great week and stay safe.

    • blindshooter,

      Can’t move it with a truck – I’m on top of a steep hill and a truck can’t make it to the top pulling the mobile. I’m going to have to have a dozer pull it to the top of the hill. I’ll probably stay where I am until spring and move it then. Need to save some money anyway…

    • sistaprepper says:

      I have a driveway alert. I got it thru my security company. It is set a certain distance from the road so that people turning around won’t trip it. It sounds in the house and outside incase I am working out back. It detects mass so even the lawnmower sets it off. I have had it for about 6 years and wouldn’t be without one!

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        What’s the brand and model of your driveway alert?

        • sistaprepper says:

          I tried to look in the box mounted in my phone room. I cant see any brand, but a company called Sonitrol installed it. I will have one in the next place I build. I have a 600 ft driveway and I always know when someone has pulled in. People always find it odd that I am at the door when they reach the top of the driveway.

    • blindshooter-i’m glad you mentioned the info regarding the canned pumkin. i’ve another dog (little girl) who had to have colon surgery several years ago and she’s on a powdered lax. the pumpkin is good to know in case of an emergency. thank you

      • Hi Pam S

        It works the other way as well for the pumpkin, it helps make them regular, but it will also work to help slow down the runs and it can also be used as weight loss tool for both cats and dogs, they eat less calories but feel full, so they don’t beg near as much..

  15. Actually completed my first knitting project in many years. Skill development is good. Canned and stored some applesauce. Dehydrated lots of inexpensive celery. Tried a recipe for roasted radishes. Worth repeating. It’s important to me to be able to put whatever to more than one use. Went thrift store shopping and came home with canning jars and a lovely red cardigan with green trim which does not have a specifically Christmas theme, but can warm me any time.

    • Congrats on your knitting project, so what did you make? Was if for you or for gift giving? I would be interested in the recipe for roasted radishes? Please an thanks.

  16. Tinfoil Hat says:

    A little light on prepping this week. Did make a trip to BJ’s where I got 36 rolls of TP, 48 AA batteries and some cough drops. Otherwise, spent a lot of time shoring up my house (new fence sections, cleaned gutters, replaced a few deck boards, installed water shut off valve for 2nd floor) before winter settles in for good. Also have been racking my brain and organizing my thoughts on my entry into the writing contest. Look for that soon…I hope.

  17. Hi All, I didn’t do much prepping this week, family underfoot all week long. Not complaining as I love the time I spend with them. Started to put together a Christmas list though based upon info obtained over the visit. I buy presents for 15, but everything we do for each other is based upon need or good common sense. Only the children get “wish come true” gifts – there are six of those. As for Black Friday? I agree with all here that state that if this is the way people are willing to act to save a $ over some insignificant Asian made crap, then we are doomed! I doubt that I will even see the inside of a store between now and Christmas……it will all be online or with folks like NorCal Ray!
    I have a pot of turkey soup going that will end up canned on the shelves and will be following that up with canning some ham and beans for the shelves as well. The family wants me to make a big batch of my carmelized onion; orange; cranberry compote, so that will be the final project for this week.
    I still find myself in recovery from the big blast of prepping my clan handled in Oct and Nov. But we had all promised each other, that we would be at least with the ability to self sustain for 6 months and have solid bug out plans but 1/1/2012 and we are there! Most are beyond that. So now it is just a consistent “add on as needed” approach.

  18. Tinfoil Hat says:

    Random question/request. Can anyone direct me to the best equipment to purchase to start canning/ jarring, along with an approximate estimate for how much it would cost me to get started? Thank you

    • Tinfoil Hat,

      Here is all you need to get started – it is not difficult.

      • Tinfoil Hat says:

        Thanks MD! Sent to the girl for Christmas ordering. Could you ease remind me of what to do on amazon to help the Blog again (I forgot sorry) . And a probably stupid question is, will this allow me to can my own stews and soups too? (I know that’s probably a dumb question, but I really am totally clueless and new to the canning thing)

        • Tinfoil Hat,

          Just go through the link that I posted. That is it…

        • Tinfoil Hat,

          There are two methods for canning: water bath canning and pressure canning. The set up M.D. recommended earlier is a water bath canner. What you want to can determines what method of canning you need to use. Jams, jellies, salsa, chutney and pickles can be canned with the water bath method. Anything that contains meat or anything that is low acid has to be pressure canned. With pressure canning, the temperature gets hotter than boiling water.

          Repair Mama wrote an excellent article on pressure canning a few months back. Have a look at that. I think it was called “Pressure Canning Meat”. It is a step-by-step instruction guide.

    • Then…get a good book; I think someone recommended the Ball Blue Book of Canning…or something like that…anyone?

      And you’ll need jars, size depending on what you’re canning. I get mine at Walmart and a local hardware store.

      Happy canning!! I taught myself last year with instructions from inside the powder pectin box! I am loving it. I started with jams & jellies…pretty easy.

    • Tinfoil Hat,

      I have the Ball set that M.D. recommended and I am happy with it. Now I use the canner as a soup pot and use an All American Pressure Canner to can the soups.

      I would recommend ordering the Ball set like M.D. recommended, some pint or quart Ball jars and a reputable book on canning. I like this one:


  19. Diver Gal (South Fla) says:

    Hey Wolfpack,

    I hope everyone had a fabulous Thanksgiving week with family; it was just my mom and myself this year which made things incredibly peaceful.

    Preps were somewhat slow this week because I despise the holiday crush in the stores, so I avoid going as much as I can.

    I did get 4 of the BOGO 40oz jars of peanut butter at Publix; thanks for reminding me Gayle. I had seen the ad but forgot. Also Publix put out a holiday coupon circular that had coupons on spices so I grabbed a bunch of the different ones that were also on sale.

    That was pretty much it for the foodstuffs. I read ‘One Second After’. It’s been on my ‘to be read’ pile for a few weeks but with work winding up for the season there has been no time. Pretty much made me realize I really need to step up the preps while I can. It’s difficult doing it for houses in 2 different states but since you never know when TSHTF I have no way of knowing where I will be. Hopefully the property in NC but since work keeps me in S. Fla for the majority of the year I need to make sure Im stocked both places.

    On another note, am I able to can stew ro soup after I’ve frozen it? I made up a huge batch and was planning on canning it but my canner won’t hold pressure so I’m waiting on a new one I ordered online. Went with the All American this time. My old one was a thrift store find for $10 so I figured I would have to replace it sooner rather than later. Anyhoo, I have a tone of ham soup in my freezer, so do I just leave it there or will it be ok to can? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Take care everyone and have a great week….

    • Yes you can go ahead and can your frozen soup and or stew. You are going to love your All American!

      • Diver Gal (South Fla) says:

        That’s what everyone says, I can’t wait to try it out. I just hope it gets here soon, My brother brought me about 30 lbs of apples that a guy gave him for helping to fix a flat. I’m thinking applesauce…. apple butter…. apple pie?!?


        • Diver Gal, you can use your defective pressure canner to water bath can your apple recipes. And you can probably get a new gasket fo

          • Jeff – don’t know what happened, must have touched something wrong. Anyway, you can probably get a new gasket for your pressure canner, check with Lehmans. Jeff

  20. Hey Everybody! How’s your Mom and them? We had a nice Thanksgiving with my folks, my MIL and BIL, son and his GF, and my sister. It was a nice day.

    We had our traditional anti-Black Friday shopping trip to three GoodWills, a Salvation Army store, the WoodCrafters store, and an Asian market.

    I found some great clothes – several with the original tags. One pair of pants are Boy Scout uniform Switchback pants – the legs zip off to make shorts.

    I scored a cast iron kettle that is absolutely rusted on the inside. I’m thinking of letting the DH work on it with his metal brushes. Does anyone have experience with salvaging a rusted tea kettle? How should I go about it? What would you use to reseason it? Should I just make a nice doorstop out of it?

    Take care!


    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Getting all of the rust out of a cast iron kettle could be a big challenge. Is it a tea kettle? The spout could be hard to clean, unless your husband has a small brass bristle brush or a strong toothbrush. If it’s not a tea kettle, it may not be so difficult to clean up.

      If you can get rid of the rust, then coat the entire kettle (inside & out) with a thin layer of cooking oil and place it in the oven for a few hours on low so the seasoning can be replaced. This may take more than one application.

      • Mominem,if your husband is a tool guy then he will probably have an angle grinder. They make a seriously stout metal bristle (wire brush)) that attaches to the angle grinder. I bought some assorted cast iron that was so rusty I wouldn’t have considered buying it until I saw the price tag. I tried several things and was about to give up when I spied the wire brush attachment at lowes. It cleaned the cast iron so well that I was totally amazed. I seasoned them all and have used them to cook with often Incan effort to get them fully seasoned and not prone to rusting again. Brad

    • breadmomma says:

      I am with lint on this one…scrub it out good with steel wool, rinse thoroughly, heat up, coat with oil, heat up some more in oven and don’t use detergent ever on these things, with use, the blacker they get, the better they get…I have one that is over 150 years old and still use it weekly…found it in a garden being used as a planter about 40 years ago…cleaned it up and it is as good as new……with the tea kettle…I just use mine for humidifying the room from the wood stove…the iron is just too much to try to keep up and too much iron plays havoc with the heart…

    • Wellrounded says:

      We’ve been using electrolysis to clean up an assortment of tools and kitchen ware. Search “electrolysis cleaning cast iron”, its easy and cheap to do.

    • sistaprepper says:

      now I find your post! See below, I have the perfect recipe!

  21. Copperhead says:

    Not much prepping done this week. Busy with preparing for Thanksgiving and all that goes with it. Now have a backache! 🙂 Just can’t do the work I did when I was young. I am winterizing my BOB/GHB with little heating packets, warm blanket etc. Yesterday was bitter cold and extreme winds, so reminded me what all I need for the winter in it. Maybe this coming week will be more productive.
    All take care…

  22. Wandering around Wal Mart and I saw some discount canning jars for about half the price of Ball jars. Chinese made, and marketed as canning jars, they came with lids and bands. Anybody used them?

  23. Jarhead 03 says:

    Prepped Cold Weather Gear this week and a trip to the hospital.
    Took advantage of the Big5 Sporting Goods sale on snow gear for local trips to the mountains, up north or back east.
    Snow Boots
    Snow Shoes
    2 Plastic Sleds for pulling gear and fun on the slopes
    2 Snow bib pants
    4 pairs of thick socks
    Snow Gloves

    First Aid Preps
    4X4 Gauze
    Large Band Aids
    Knuckle Band Aids
    Self Adhering Tape
    Added 30 800mg Ibuprofin and a thumb splint last night.

    Tested my cold weather preps by camping and hiking with my nephew up in the local mountains that got about 10″ of snow on the last storm. Enjoyed the slopes on the sleds, found some tracks and caught two rabbits with the air rifle. Had some pine needle tea among coffee and hot chocolate.
    Did some time on the slopes with the sleds and snowball fights. Got hit by a basketball sized snow and hyper extended my thumb and sprained it. Good times!

  24. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    Thanksgiving was fine, but no opportunity to discuss prepping. Football took their attention.

    My computer and phone lines are screwed up for some reason. Phone and computer service are intermittent at best. WiFi works through the phone line, so when the phone is bad the internet service is bad. Bummer!

    Need a new refrigerator since the old one decided to spring a leak in the ice maker. Need a new range since the oven doesn’t stay on. Need a new water heater, washer, and dryer. So, once my medical bills are paid off I need to buy new appliances. It’s going to be a financially tough end-of-year, but everything wears out eventually so no surprises.

    NorCal Ray, can’t buy any of your stuff until after the first of the year. Don’t have any spare cash until then.

    Take care everybody and keep your eyes and ears open for tipoffs. Even the MSM is now talking about worldwide financial armegeddon.

    • Lint… Wow. Sorry to hear about the breakdown on your appliances. DW and I had a used washer and dryer that lasted for 15 years before they needed replacing. Ever consider used or scratch-n-dent appliances to help save some money?

    • Nor Cal Ray says:

      No problem. Been there Done that. Hopefully we’ll all still be here by then.

    • templar knight says:

      Lint, you ever heard of the Maytag repairman? I wonder whether you might get some more time out of your appliances, although it wouldn’t be a bad idea to replace them if they are old. Let’s hope all your Christmas gifts are money. lol

      10-4 on the European financial crisis, and one wonders how this will afffect our markets. It should be quite a ride on the markets Monday.

      • I replaced my washing machine this summer. We have a friend who is a small appliance repairman. He said that if the appliance is more than four years old, it is usually better to buy a new one. (It will usually cost $70 just to have a guy open the back of the washer. And for $275 you can get your hands on a cheap washer.)

        The best place I have found to buy appliances is Lowes. If you actually go into the store, they usually have floor models that they no longer stock. You can pick up appliances cheap.

        If your appliance is a newer one, you can find videos on youtube that will show you how to troubleshoot a given appliance and do the repair.

    • Hello Lint, was wondering where you were – can discuss prep all you want with the rest of us.

      If you have to choose what to replace first, go with the refrigerator, as you don’t want to chance eating food that hasn’t been kept chilled enough. You and your health first remember.

      And when SHTF – range will be replaced by a dutch oven anyway.

      Do you have an electric fry-pan you can use to cook your roast meat and veges etc.

      Are you able to rent a washer/dryer in the interim…until you can pick up replacements from craigslist – or put an ad up at the community/shopping centre for a good second-hand one.

      Garage sales ???

      See if your local electrical goods stores have any demo models they are going to upgrade, e.g., they have complete kitchens set up so people can browse – however, after a couple of years their display is completed replaced with the latest models -and you can get a great top- of- the- range (pardon the pun) range, never used – for a lot less and with the full warranty period attached.

      Also, if you frequent a particular store for all the items – tell them what you intend to purchase from them – one item at a time, and you want a huge discount 30%-40% on the first item, and also, ask if they will allow a lay-by arrangement, that way when you work your way down the prioritized list, you will have some of the items partway paid for.

      Or ask if they have any floor display stock (refrigerator) / washer etc marked right down – and if not – make sure that when they do, they sell it to you – make a phone call every Monday morn to the same sales staff – get to know them – give them your phone number every time you call – the odds are that they will phone you when the new stock arrives and they are looking for floor space.

      You have given a lot of good advice to others, hope you enjoy getting some back. cheers.

      • riverrider says:

        lint, i thought you were a prepper. strap on your headlamp and get your buns to google and look up the manuals of those appliances and fix them, not buy new junk. you can cut out the icemaker and use the fridge for years probly. the oven thing is probly just a small part, or hit the moving sales. improvise, adapt, overcome. the new appliances are junk. we’ve been hunting for a good topload washer for a while. even the maytag(boughtout by GE) are hit and miss. we’ll be ford( fix or repair daily) until it falls completely apart:) good luck buddy.

      • Plant Lady says:

        Hey LP, sounds like you are being given the same opportunity we were given last fall. The washer puked a full load of water all over the floor when the bottom seal failed. This gave us a warning that all the appliances, water heater and furnace were 13 yrs. old and probably were going to go like dominos shortly. With prepping in the forefront of our minds, and things looking more grim each day, it made more sense to get the big wood cookstove w/24 gal. hot water reservoir to replace the furnace, water heater and gas stove before they died…since our forest out back can provide all the fuel needed. And put up a couple clotheslines to replace the dryer. The peace of mind knowing we will have heat, hot water, the ability to cook/bake and to dry clothes faster indoors in inclement weather, no matter what, is priceless. And if we get one more year of “normal” before TSHTF, the $2,000 we can save on propane will allow us to replace all the modern appliances…if TEOTWAWKI isn’t immiment. Otherwise that money can be used for further much-needed preps, or just to get by in better shape with all the ever-increasing prices on everything.
        I have been so worried that we haven’t had the time to install the cookstove yet (although we have everything we need to do so)…but turns out that was another little “heads up” from God. Plans have changed for the better…see my post below later tonight.
        But, we did give in and buy a new washer…with MIL here and partially incontinent, it was pretty much a necessity for now.

    • Hunker-Down says:

      Lint Picker,

      We are in the same situation regarding appliances and I am worried that they may greatly increase in Price shortly. Please share any research you do regarding your selections.
      There is always too much of the month left at the end of the money.

      Here is one place we found; http://shopcompare.net/products/Gas%20Water%20Heater/&sort=rating&

    • Best Buy had some great deals on Whirlpool appliances this weekend. Why Whirlpool? They’re made in America and I bought mine brand new 8 years ago. Last weekend the washer went out. Fired up Google for troubleshooting and found out the lid switch was a common problem. Tested, purchased, replaced and washer up and running in 4 hours. Total cost $50 vs the repair man to just come out and look for $65. We purposely bought the no-frills version of these appliances so there would be less to go wrong with them. When I opened up the washer I liked another feature. they were put together in a way that made them easy to repair and the components were modular to save on troubleshooting time. So I would recommend this brand to the pack.

      • Whirlpool was one of the brands that our appliance repair friend recommended. They are well made. He also said that with appliances, do not get a cheap made in China one. The break down and they cost a lot to fix. He also said be cautions about Sears–some of the Kenmore are made here and some are made overseas. And the sales people often don’t know which is which.

    • Lint, another thought…is there an appliance repair shop you can phone.

      Sometimes when new washers are purchased and delivered, the older washers are taken back to the store by the delivery drivers, and then these are collected on a regular basis by repairers who have their own store – and on-sell the now repaired washers that are in good working order – with a 3-6 month warranty period.

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        I’m ba-ack. Phone repairman showed up today to fix the wiring and repair the damage done by the squirrels and woodpeckers on their cable. Living in the woods with the wild critters has its drawbacks at times. So computer and phone should be good until next fall, when the rain and the acorns and the animals damage the wiring again. The cycle of life….

        My thanks and appreciation to all of you for your comments, suggestions, teasing, etc regarding the recent spate of appliance failures. I spent the entire day (Monday) looking at new appliances. Two things were learned: most brands are owned by just 2 or 3 corporations now. Think of appliances as if they were General Motors, Ford, & Chrysler – lots of styles, options, colors – but all made by a few big conglomerates. Which means there is not that much difference in quality or durability. And the other thing I learned is that the names they put on appliances are as misleading as the words used by politicians. For example: “Commerical grade” doesn’t mean the appliance is tough enough for commerical use. That description is merely used as a marketing ploy. And “Professional” is not any better than “Gallery” (in reference to Frigidaire side-x-side frig/freezer). The only difference is in the hardware used on the two models.

        All this new “knowledge” has convinced me to get my current appliances fixed and then spend the time and do the research necessary to find what I want to replace them. IOW, not going to rush into buying something new until I really study what’s available. BTW, Speed Queen makes their washers and dryers in the USA, so I may be looking at that brand instead of Maytag now that Maytag is made in Mexico. Also, Frigidaire is made in Mexico. The brands I always trusted are now made in Mexico, which makes me a very unhappy consumer.

        Bottom line, kiddies, is I’m not yet totally broke. I’ll spend about $400.00 to get my current appliances repaired, $700.00 to get a new water heater installed tomorrow, and then I’ll take my time looking for the right replacement appliances – all new ones. I want new appliances so I don’t have to go through this process again, hopefully for the rest of my life. If I can get 20 years out of the new appliances like I did out of my current ones, then I’ll die a happy man. Hopefully my appliances will outlive me – how great would that be?!!! LOL For those of you wondering why I’m not installing my own water heater or doing my own appliance repairs, well I’m not as young as I used to be and the old knees don’t like bending and kneeling like they used to. IOW, it sucks to get old. Yes, chloe, I’m moving my body, but not the right parts of it, apparently. 🙂

        Still waiting on an order I placed with Ready Made Resources before my phone went kapoot. Working on an order from Amazon. Going shopping at Costco on Thursday. They have M&M peanuts on sale again – yippee!! (Sure beats boiled peanuts.)

        Filling the gas tank and the gas cans because gas is going to go up again soon. All that increasing turmoil in the Middle East isn’t going to bode well for gasoline prices. Plus, environmental wackos used the EPA to shutdown the roadbuilding needed to reach oil fields in the Alaska fields. So much for being oil-independent. We got it, can’t get to it, we are one dumbass nation.

        • templar knight says:

          Hey, I can read you know! Plus I just found out they boil the peanuts just prior to pouring the chocolate on them. Hehehe.

          And boy, did you miss out on a doozy of a thread. Don’t go over there, I don’t want you to blow a gasket now that we have you back. LOL.

          • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

            What thread, where? I wanna participate. You can’t tease me like this, tk.

            They boil M&M peanuts before dowsing them with chocolate? Oh crap!

            • templar knight says:

              Lint, it’s the thread by LurkerBob. He threw out the bait and caught a couple of dandies. They now think MD should host their rants. I’m sorry I ever said a word to either one of them. I wasted way too much of my time responding to their nonsense.

              Hehehe…I was just kidding on the M & Ms, but you never know.

            • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

              You had me going on the peanuts. Almost scratched the M&M’s from my shopping list. Good thing you came clean on that little deception, my friend. :))))

        • Hunker-Down says:

          Lint Picker,

          We are in the same situation with appliances. My fear is that they will go up in price 20-30 % in the next few months, hence our rush to spend money we don’t have. lol.

          Thanks for the ‘made in Mexico’ tip.

          • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

            H-D, I think you’re right. Prices are going up on everything. The world’s central banks are printing money like crazy so inflation is only going to get worse. If you really need new appliances, the repairman said Maytag, Frigidaire, and Whirlpool are still good, even if made in Mexico. Buy I’m buying Speed Queen next time I need a new washer & dryer. Speed Queen is made in Michigan.

        • RE: appliances. Maybe a good opportunity to switch to a propane range/fridge and front-loading washer? Off-grid friendlier. Good luck.

          • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

            Can’t have a propane tank in town…I live in town (city limits). I looked at front loading washers – they are too finicky for me. Gotta use special detergent, gotta push the “open” button to open the door, don’t use enough water to clean the clothes, etc., etc. Nope, I’m sticking with the water and energy guzzlers while I can. (I also prefer incandescant lightbulbs – bring on the energy police!)

            But Red, thanks for the suggestions. Always willing to learn, even if I ultimately decline the suggestions.

            • Hmm, I use a Frigidare and the only problem with it is that its spin cycle scares me and it tends to throw most of what I leave on top of it.

              I just buy the cheapest unscented fabric soap I can find. (All, currently.)

              Of course, I’m not trying to open the door while the washer is doing something. Then I would have to push a button to make it stop.

            • LINT:
              Bought the DW a new set of Washer/Dryer at Lowes last year. She wanted front loading and we ended up with a Whirlpool set. No preblems so far.
              I have to admit we have had GREAT luck with our major appliances. This is the 4th set we’ve owned since 1980, and all of the others were functioning when we sold/donated them. Same with TV’s and stereo systems. Last year the TV I bought in 1972 with my 1st tax return finally quit.

            • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

              JP & H-D, for what it’s worth….

              The appliance repairman (an independent businessman) came today and I bombarded him with questions. He said new appliances are fine, and that Whirlpool, Maytag, and Frigidaire are still good products, but they are made in Mexico for the most part. He said even the appliances still made in America are made up of parts and components from around the world.

              However, he told me that many of his customers swear that the older appliances (198os-1990s) were built sturdier and have more steel in them. Based on what I saw on Monday compared to my appliances from 1989, I’d have to agree with his other customers. The shelves are thicker glass in my old frig, the washer is made of heavier gauge steel than the newer ones I looked at. The repair guy wouldn’t come out and say so, but he implied that the appliances I have will last several more years and so long as parts are still available I may as well save my money and keep what I’ve got. So in 5 years, if my current appliances last that long, I’ll buy new stuff. By then maybe Made in America will be commonplace again.

              One final thought: he said Speed Queen makes great washers & dryers, even for the residential market.

              All just opinions, so take them or leave them.

            • Hunker-Down says:

              Lint Picker,

              Thanks for the update. It will be a big help as we shop.

            • Ultra-Prepper Refrigeration:


              Less than 700w per day!

              will have to have one for refrigerator and one for freezer.

              Now when the grid is destroyed – you won’t even notice.

  25. The past few weeks have been hectic. I’ve not contributed much to the discussion on the blog, but I’ve lurked quite a bit. We had a tree go down in the backyard during a nasty thunderstorm two weeks ago. We’re counting our blessings that it only killed the chain-link fence, and crunched a corner of our neighbors metal shed. It could have fallen on either of our houses. The tree has been cleared from the neighbor’s yard, the fence has been replaced, and we more-or-less bought a new shed for our neighbor. On a positive note, I think we’re set on firewood for this season!

    So the preps:
    – Worked all of the jobs in an effort to replenish the emergency fund.
    – News, Blogs, Videos. Connecting the dots… I watch a LOT of videos. BCTruck: Nice sunset’s, man! I look forward to a follow-up when you install the mylar reflectors on the oven. I suspect it will improve heating.
    – Download’s for the grab-n-go binder.
    – Preventative maintenance on both vehicles.
    – Routine grocery shopping, though we added extra frozen fruit, canned veggies, and 5 lbs of navy beans. We also picked-up storage containers and a few rolls for the FoodSaver.
    – Canned 14 jars of four-berry jam. Most of these will go towards a holiday basket that will include apple butter and the fixin’s for the Wolfpack easy beer bread.
    – Reorganized our basement storage.
    – A recent hotel stay netted sample sizes of soap, shampoo, and lotion.
    – Reviewed the contents of our vehicles bags.
    – Discovered four traffic flares in the garage the other day. I forgot I had them. Each car now has two.
    – Attempted to make soft soap. It didn’t lather well. I suspect I didn’t use the proper amount of grated bar soap.
    – Discovered that my father-in-law didn’t share my sense of humor when I joked and told him that I used his chainsaw to carve my name in the mud next to the fallen tree. Yeah. Dead silence…

    I enjoyed the Thanksgiving blog entry, along with all of the comments. I am no less thankful for all of my incredible blessings. Thank you to everyone in here for being a part of that. You all rock! Have a great week!

  26. templar knight says:

    I didn’t do any prepping this week, unless you include traveling and visiting with family and friends as prepping. I do. My youngest son was home from Ft. Carson, and a great time was had by all. I do not shop on Black Friday weekend, so I missed all the confusion of the sheeple. I will make a trip to Wally World tomorrow to stock up, and later in the week to Sam’s.

    pam s and BC Truck, I visited your part of the country, and the drought is worse than I had imagined. My sister lives on Lake Claiborne near Homer, La., and the lake is dang near dry, and this is a large lake. And pam, my oldest son took us out to Lake Columbia, and it was just as bad. We have been dry here in No. Arkansas until the past couple of months or so, but we’ve now had over 10 in. of rain this month. I wish I could lend yall some of it.

    Gots lots of work to do this week. The chimney for the wood stove need to be completed, fencing needs to be started for the hog pen, and the garden spot needs to be prepped for spring planting. I’ve got a few greens in a small plot that are prospering. I might just have a mess before long.

    I went outside earlier and I heard flock after flock of geese going over, and snow was falling here in No. Arkansas. Winter is here.

    • templar knight-i’m glad you and the mrs made it safely home. i wish you could send some much needed water this way. our pond has shrunk to half the size. don’t work to hard this week.

    • riverrider says:

      tk, winter is rolling in…yep, we’re supposed to get our first snow this week, just a dusting…..lots of projects left to do. i’m jealous of your hog pen. one big hole in our preps is sustainability. i’m planning on chix next year, and would like to raise a few goats or mini cattle. i was raised raising everything that walks or flies. swore i never would again. never say never:) take care my friend.

      • templar knight says:

        I left out a couple of good things that happened this week, rr. Must be my age, lol. I bought a live hog trap from my nephew, and I got gasoline in Little Rock for $2.98 a gal. That’s the first time I’ve bought gas under $3 for a while.

        • riverrider says:

          tk, 2.98? a gallon? sure it wasn’t 4/5th’s a gallon? 🙂 geesh, its 3.13 here and we thought THAT was good….live hog trap, is that for trapping wild hogs or getting your hands on your “tame” ones? never heard of one.

          • templar knight says:

            rr, the hog trap will be used to trap live hogs with the intent of getting the piglets to start a herd. Any of the larger ones would be harvested as they would be impossible to tame. We have a huge problem with feral hogs around here, so I want to be ready to take advantage of a resource that will be depleted at some point after the SHTF. I’m going to set the trap this week and see what I get, if anything. The larger ones are pretty savvy, and difficult to trap, or so I’ve heard. I’ll let you know as this is a work in progress.

            By the way, the guy was here today to put the chimney in, and he is going to use OP’s suggestion to put it through the wall. He will be back tomorrow to start the process. He didn’t say anything about the EPA, or needing permits, or anything like that, so I’m about to join you with wood heat. Now I gotta cut some more wood.

            Take care.

            • The area I lived in Cal was full of wild Russian Boar (originally cut loose from the Hearst estate). They had become a big nuisance, actually….rooting up everyone’s crops. A neighbor had caught a couple, raised and bred them. Mean as hell, but tasty. And the piglets are the cutest things: about the size of a coke can at first…look like little watermelons with their stripes. There’s nothing tastier than Boar/Pig. One of the best meals I ever had was an in-the-ground roasted Boar. Good luck with the trap! Hope you don’t get a skunk, like we did once. But I imagine there’s enough room for a skunk to go through the trap mesh?

  27. Mark,I planned on re-doing the reflector when I get home this time (I’m headed there as I type,yippeee) but I spent the rest of my gun sales money on a brand new camera and a tripod. Since I’m ten thumbs when it comes to tech stuff,it’s gonna be a long two weeks learning how to use the camera and edit and upload. I’m trying to put a little more quality into my vids. Since im bumping 500 subscribers now ,I feel an obligation to take my channel a little more seriously including content and video quality. You mentioned reorganizing your basement. Of all the things I miss about new England (fall colors) the basement is the biggest thing I miss. Warm in winter,cool in summer and quiet as a mouse. In louisiana the water table is so high they don’t have basements here. Glad you got your tree cleaned up. Every chainsaw needs a good mud dipping now and them,,,,,, it cleans the carbon fouling out ;)) brad

  28. You people are killin’ me! I’m trying to get all the good ideas copied into a word doc, and they just keep coming and I can’t keep up! But I’m not really complaining,…this is just my way of saying THANK YOU!! 🙂

  29. mountain lady says:

    Here it is, almost noon on Monday, and I finally got around to reading this weeks post. I survived the Thanksgiving holiday, and we had a wonderful time. Our friends arrived last Wednesday with all the trimmings for the 5 days, and she in her cast on her arm. I basically did all the prepping, cooking, and cleaning up and am totally exhausted, but it was well worth it. The Christmas tree is up and decorated, we watched at least 2 movies a day, mostly old black and whites, and after a nice afternoon nap, I expect to be back to normal. No actual prepping, but she did have more questions on prepping, and I hope she starts doing it soon. Keep well, Wolf Pack, and prep like this is your last chance. I have no idea how much longer they can extend and pretend that all is well.

  30. Vienna (Soggy prepper) says:

    Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern Americans Without Trial.


    So… How’s that for a fun Monday morning “new’s with your coffee” pick me up. Any bets on whether they pass it or not? Molon Labe.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:


      Posse Comitatus

    • Vienna (Soggy prepper) says:

      Holy damn!! I read the Posse Comitatus. I do believe this is different then that bill. Especially if you have more then 7 days worth of food, missing fingers, have guns and weathered proofed ammo. This stinks of bad, bad, bad government.
      Oh, hang on someone at my doooooooooooo….


      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Posse Comitatus states that the US military will not be used against the US people. NDAA would be in direct violation of Posse Comitatus. Using the National Guard, however, is apparently not a violation of PC. This was shown most recently at Kent State and at Waco (Branch Dividian). Slowly but surely our security is being destroyed by our own gooberment. It’s going to be a bumpy ride, hold on tight.

        • Cliff in Douglasville says:

          I spent a lot of years in the military. If I were in the United States and was ordered to fire upon civilians I would fear for the life of the officer giving that order. I believe we called it “fragging” in Vietnam. Now, if it were an armed mob advancing and endangering my position after being given verbal warnings and warning shots, then all bets are off, but to open fire on a mob of people purely to dispel the mob then it’s not going to happen. I think if you check out the Oath Keepers you’ll find a lot of people with that persuasion.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Vienna, lint is right and to my knowledge (open disclosure) the law of PC has only been broken twice (cross training excluded) by President Eisenhower where the 101st escorted students at Central High and papa Bush sending 3rd Battalion 1st Marines into the Los Angeles Riots. I was there in ’92. This off course is post 1900 where the 1800s was full of regions controlled by the Army and US Postal Service had Marines escorting US Mail train shipments.

        • riverrider says:

          j, not really. you can call the national guard militia or whatever you want but it said U.S. ARMY on my shirt, it is more of an army reserve now than homeland defence… waco and ruby ridge incidents involved NG troops and ARMY owned equipment. a federal inquiry determined that SF “advisors” were involved to the point of violating the act as well. i wish i held the same optimism that others here express. my troops were disciplined and would follow orders. the ones giving the orders now days don’t impress me as all that moral or having common sense. in addition the police have been “militarized” over the past 20 or so years. look around at them.. low slung weapons, bloused boots, blacked out or cammied up, masked, toting m4’s, no-knock warrants for even minor infractions, magistrates that write warrants with no probable cause at all. they have become an extension of the military, like the praetorian guard of rome.

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            River, I agree now more than ever the NG is more of an active well trained organization/Army than ever with better training and better gear than any time in history.
            The LE organizations used to train on our base and we cross trained with SWAT teams for current CQB/MOUT operations.
            Yeah they use active duty equipment as it is sometimes hand me downs or purchased for the NG. The laws will need to be changed if “the people” think the NG are no longer a state force, but remember its during times of war the NG is at its best and to the people they think they are weekend warriors. We know different. I have great respect for the NG, your right they fallow orders, lets hope they always do the right thing.
            I’ve also seen like you said SF, HRT and other organizations overseeing training and operations. I worked as a LE agency when I got out and seen these guys occasionally.

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Thumb is sprained, typing is terrible. Its why haven’t been on much this week. That and I’m training for the new position and its all weird hours ever changing to see if I can adapt to the demands lol

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Rand Paul for President
        Judge Andrew Napolitano for Attorney General
        Newt Gingrich for Secretary of State
        Mitt Romney for Commerce Secretary
        Ward Connerly for Education Secretary
        Sarah Palin for the new Department of Civilian Arms & Ammo

    • Rarely is there much new under the sun. This legislation is not something earthshakingly new, either.

      I highly recommend you check out the following links carefully to see for yourself. Dictatorial powers already are in the hands of the president. It’s Americans who don’t realize it.

      . State of national emergency, http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=State_of_national_emergency

      . Executive orders (these are existing), http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Executive_Orders

  31. sistaprepper says:

    Someone on here was trying to figure out how to get rust out of cast iron and I can’t find the comment.

    Anyway, I have bought many cast iron supplies at auctions that were rusted. They all look like new now. The recipe?

    1 part water and 2 parts vinegar. I put it in a big bucket (5 gal) and then place the cast iron in the bucket and soak for 24 hours. make sure the whole thing is submerged. After 24 hours, with a wire brush, the rust comes right off. Then I stick it in the oven, dry, coat with oil and its ready to go. I am refurbishing a cast iron cook stove and it is working great. For those parts that are too big to submerge, I use straight vinegar on a sponge. Set it on the affected area for about 10 minutes, then take a wire brush to it. It is unbelievable how well this works.

    I cannot take the credit for this. I found it on “Grandpappy’s” website. It works like magic!!

  32. Heads Up: Next week Publix will have Uncle Ben’s rice 5 lb. bag BOGO ($3.89 per bag when you buy two).

    • Diver Gal (South Fla) says:

      Thanks for the Heads Up Gayle!!

      I don’t get my Pennysaver with the Publix ad until Weds. I have to go tomorrow and but more Peanut Butter while its still BOGO, have a feeling those prices will never go back down.


      • Does anyone know a way to extend the shelf life of peanut butter? I have a years supply now, but I would sure like to buy more. Has anyone tried putting peanut butter in the freezer? If you can freeze olive oil, I don’t see why you couldn’t freeze peanut butter.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          Gayle, I used to freeze Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups after Halloween, and they were fine when thawed out a few months later. I suspect PB would be OK to freeze. If there is a consumer help line on the label, you could call it and ask. Sure would like to know what you find out. Maybe I’ll call, too, just to be sure we get the same answer.

        • I think I just found the answer to my question. The shelf life of peanut butter at room temperature is 18 months. That can be extended by freezing the peanut butter; however, there are undesirable results–possibility of freezer burn, the oils will separate, and peanut butter than has been frozen and then allowed to thaw does not spread as well.

          I think I am going to pick up another four jars of Skippy. The price is right.

          • Ms Gayle,
            Spread peanut butter? I eat it with a spoon. (When JoJo is not looking).

            • Ron,

              My dog does the same thing–makes it easier to give him pills. I just smush the pills into the peanut butter and let him lick the spoon.

    • Cliff in Douglasville says:

      How long will Uncle Ben’s instant rice keep? I had heard it would go bad fairly quickly but I could be confused (again).

      • Cliff,

        This is the regular rice–not the instant stuff. I have never used instant rice. Publix will have the regular Uncle Bens on sale three or four times a year, so I usually buy 20 or 30 pounds, depending on how much I have in my regular pantry. I have rice in #10 cans that will store for 30+ years, but I would prefer not to open that until it’s needed.

        • Cliff in Douglasville says:

          Thanks for the info. When I think of Uncle Ben’s I always think about the instant rice. I just had several cases of wheat, rice, rolled oats and beans delivered from the LDS website. I ordered 7 cases on, I think Friday, they came Fedex today (5 of 7 cases anyway) with free shipping. It’s all packed in #10 cans, 6 cans to the case. Can’t beat the price or the free shipping.

          I will go to Sam’s Club this weekend. I take the truck. They always have 25 cases of water set out for me on a flat and I’ll pick up several packs of TP and paper towels and cheap paper plates and then after those few essentials I’ll get a 20 or 30 pound bag of rice (needs to be frozen and then thawed before being put up since it comes in cloth bags from somewhere else, and a few bags of beans and I like to pick up the case of individual servings of catsup, mustard, salt and pepper (but not mayonnaise as I don’t trust it) and several big bottles of soy sauce since I put that or Texas Pete hot sauce on almost everything I eat.
          Stay safe.

          • Cliff,

            I have an irrational attachment to Uncle Ben’s rice. I had a friend back when I was in graduate school. He was from Vietnam. The custom throughout much of the world is to wash and sort through rice before cooking it. The idea of buying dirty rice just doesn’t feel right. And since American rice is fortified, washing rice washes off the nutrients.

            I label this as “irrational” because I don’t even know if Uncle Ben’s is grown here in the U.S. (I guess we all have our irrational attachments.)

            I did go to the Indian store and check out the rice there. It was cheap. But it wasn’t Uncle Ben’s. LOL One of these days I am going to get up the courage to buy basamati rice.

            • Cliff in Douglasville says:


              During my travels I spent some time in the Philippines. Rice was a staple of the local diet and I ate a lot of it. It was far different from the rice they served in the chow halls. Same thing when I was in Japan. We spent a lot of time camping and visiting small towns through out the country and we often sampled the local fare. I could eat the rice any where except for the stuff they served in the chow hall or sold in the commissary. Not totally sure what the difference was but I prefer brown rice to white even though brown won’t store as long and goes rancid quicker. In other countries it never sits around long enough to go rancid before it’s eaten.
              The Philippines had a lot of first for me. I flew in to Clark Air Base during a typhoon and I’d swear Flying Tigers put that plane down on the runway sideways. I snorkeled on a reef about a mile out from Black Beach. Spotted a shark and came out of the water and never touched the side of the boat. Coming back in we ran through a school of flying fish. Really fascinating to watch as they tried to jump over the boat but several needed a helping hand. That trip ended with a wedding feast (not mine) and we had some of the best BBQ ribs I’ve ever eaten. I thought they were a bit small, turns out the were dog ribs but were really fixed right and I lived through it.
              Give the foreign rice a chance. Don’t forget your bottle of hot sauce if you have to season to taste and there’s always soy sauce to help out too.

            • Cliff in Douglasville says:

              Speaking of first, in the Philippines I was exposed to the bar girls eating “balut” which is a fertilized duck egg. After watching that, and it is a delicacy for them, I never could get in to the idea of kissing on the lips while I was there.
              In Japan we stopped at a Ramen noodle shop up in the Yagen Mountains. We ordered the complete set up (and the only Japanese I speak is “fork o cu di si” or fork please since I’m left handed and never mastered left hand chop sticks). It came and it was complete with big chunks of fish, a fish head staring back and octopus tentacles. I was able to fish out some of the veggies and eat some of the rice but couldn’t deal with the fish head and octopus tentacles are very strange to eat. The more you chew them the bigger the piece gets in your mouth and it’s not like any part of it comes off to swallow. Not like calimara at all.
              There are a lot of other first, like being naked in a natural hot spring along the Yagen Riven, down in a valley, when a double decker tour bus stops at the rail by the road and all the windows come down and cameras come out. I guess they had never seen a great white whale floating in a hot spring before.
              Other things will have to stay locked in the secrets locker and you’d have to be an old GI that traveled like I did to appreciate them……

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Cliff in Douglasville⁠ , you described some good times. I had some of those same memories and events except my times were at Subic Bay, never hit Travis AFB. I still eat balut with some of my filipino friends and have a San Miguel or the occasional Red Horse if someone can bring it home on a flight.

  33. Plant Lady says:

    Excuse the coming babble…I am excited!
    Have been working on rearranging the storeroom, taking stock…and putting wheat, rice, beans & sugar in pails and vacuum sealing other stuff. As I did, God sent me one of those awesome “Eureka” moments! Have been worrying because we have that big beautiful new wood cookstove and everything we need to install it…just no time right now (until spring) to do all that needs to be done and can’t afford to hire someone to do it. And dreading being without a kitchen during the project! Plus, to put it simply, the current kitchen sucks (hehe) and would be even worse with a huge cookstove crammed in the corner. A good kitchen is of vital necessity come TEOTWAWKI…and being without one was causing a lot of anxiety.
    Well, as I worked in the storeroom (former master bedroom) realized the storeroom would make a MUCH better kitchen, especially when TSHTF! Larger than the present kitchen, it can be set up with a U-layout to the east/south/west and the cookstove on the north wall. The storeroom is in the southwest corner of the house, so can have natural light from two exposures – far better than one dinky little window to the north, as we have now. Will even make the front entry and living room work better, as we will be replacing the wall between living room and storeroom with a 3’x6′ eat-on/work-on bar off a proper coat/boot closet right inside the front door. Our old place had a 3’x7′ bar between the living and kitchen areas and I loved it for big projects…processing food and game, making wedding cakes and all the wedding food for up to 300 people, sewing, felting hats and rugs, planting seeds and transplanting, etc., while still allowing me room to prepare meals. And will have room to use that wonderful stainless steel prep table BIL gave us as a work island and to put in the big 3-bay stainless restaurant sink I have been lusting for. Will also give us room for multiple helpers without crowding. Plus we can use the present kitchen while we get the new one set up! Seems like every time I think of the project, I come up with 2-3 more benefits!
    OMG, I am so excited to have found such a wonderful solution that will solve multiple major problems! It won’t be pretty to start with, as most everything will have to be scavenged…except for the cookstove, chimney, ceramic tile & materials for beefing up the floor. And already have saved up half the $ for the big 3-bay stainless sink. Will have the time needed this winter to scavenge for what we can. Plus have the two gas stoves and 2 refrigerators from our old home and current home to use until TSHTF. And can store all the storeroom stuff in our old home and the storage unit we rent once things warm up in the spring and we can start the project.
    Wow, now I am SO glad that we couldn’t get the cookstove installed immediately!!! Gave us time to recognize a much better solution to this and many other problems! Sometimes a roadblock to your plans just means you need to go a different/better way!
    Sure hope we have time to pull this off before TSHTF! It will happen regardless…but sure would be easier and faster with power tools! (hehe)

    • Hunker-Down says:

      Plant Lady,

      Calm down! You’re gonna blow a gasket!

      We hope it all comes together as you want it to.

      • Plant Lady says:

        The gasket already done blew…releasing all that poisonous worry and stress of not being able to install the cookstove yet and the dread of being stuck with a totally unsuitable kitchen come SHTF! Gosh, it is such a massive relief to have two major worries disappear with one great idea.
        I really don’t wanna calm down…life is sort of grim sitting here with MIL watching her lose her “self” with the dementia and die/recover/die/recover from strokes over and over and tensed for TS to HTF before we are “ready”. I want to luxuriate in something that was so bad turning so good!!! I don’t get many opportunities to enjoy true glee (hehe).

        • Plant Lady: I’m in a similar situation (caring for my father as he slowly…oh, so slowly….declines mentally & physically). And I understand the immense joy you feel at discovering a great solution for a troublesome problem. Congrats. Hold that joy! 🙂

          • Plant Lady says:

            Mt. Woman: Oh, I feel for you! It sure is a hard thing to do…especially being totally helpless to affect the outcome. It was a real trick when I had both MIL and Gramps…holy cow, that pushed me right to the limit.
            But sure is good training for when TSHTF – when everyone will be caring for their own elders…and ourselves in later years! Learned to stock up on mattress protectors, diapers, no-rinse shampoo and body wash, Desitin, extra bedding, hospital bed, portable commode, raised toilet seat with arms, canes, walkers, wheelchair, shower bench, battery-powered baby monitor and easy-on/easy-off clothing and bibs. Making the house elder-friendly now with the wheelchair ramp, wider doorways, grab rails, etc. will make our own elder years far more comfortable.

    • Congrats! sometimes the answer to a prayer is “wait” for good reason.

      • Plant Lady says:

        Thank you! Sure wish I could have figured it out earlier and saved myself a lot of worry, tho’ (duh).

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Plant Lady, it sounds like a great plan. Hope it all comes together for you.

      I am often impatient with projects, just to find out that getting delayed can be a blessing. Guess you learned that as well. LOL

      • Plant Lady says:

        Thanks, LP! Well, I learned in this case that having to wait worked out well – but that is not something you can count on (hehe). Certainly not accustomed to having two major problems being solvable with one good idea! It is so hard to be patient when things look grimmer by the day…and we still have so much to accomplish before TSHTF and so little time. Especially when one little delay could mean we aren’t prepared “enough” and may suffer mightily in result.

  34. Copperhead says:

    Plant Lady, I can almost feel your excitement!! Good for you and do hope you can get at it this coming Spring. It sounds like you have almost everything you need. That can be so comforting. Good luck on your scavenging!

    • Copperhead: Thanks! I am just so very grateful now that it was impossible for us to get the cookstove installed. If I had come up with the new, improved plan after we had gotten it installed I would have been seriously distraught…and stuck living with it like that.
      It is so hard to know just how far to go with preps – and when. Like us and others…when the modern appliances fail and money is tight, do you replace them with other modern appliances…or something that will work when TSHTF, even though it may currently raise a few eyebrows among non-prepper acquaintances and be somewhat less convenient now?

  35. Kroger in the Houston area has Quilted Northern Bathroom Tissue 12 double rolls for $5.99. I found it at Foodtown a couple of months ago for $4.99 and stocked up then but in my opinion you can never have enough T.P.

  36. Cliff in Douglasville says:

    Texasmomma, may I clarify your statement just a little “you can never have enough of the right T.P.”
    I’m the designated Sam’s Club shopper and I’m always to stock up on Northern T.P., but on one trip they were out so I picked up Members Mark, the store brand. Luckily I only bought about 20 rolls of the stuff. Now there are 2 rolls of TP in the bathroom, mine and theirs. They will only use the Northern and it’s up to my behind to tough it out with the Members Mark. So, it’s always very important to get plenty but to get plenty of the right kind.
    Hell hath no fury like a wife given a roll of something she isn’t expecting.

    • texasmomma says:

      your wife and I are on the same page. LOL. I’m guessing that after you are finally done with the cheap stuff your lesson will be complete.
      Heck I grew up in Alaska, we had no plumbing, electricity, we are on an island with no cars. We had to order our groceries for the month and it was flown in on a water plane. We had the sears and jc penny catalog. Quilted Northern is MUCH better. I know I can do without, but would rather stock up.

    • Vienna (Soggy prepper) says:

      Hahaha! I bought a box of tp once from our cash-n-carry. I don’t remember the name but it had a rose design on it. Something like 36 rolls. OMGosh. It pretty much started to disintegrate and “dingleberry up” immediately upon contact! I gave it to my oldest every time she came to “shop” at my house. Broke her of shopping for tp here!
      I will only buy Scotts now.

      Ever see that commercial where the guy steps out of the bathroom, calls to his wife for tp, she throws it and shaves off half his hair with it? Second time it explodes in a puff?
      Yeah, like that!

  37. Hi everyone, I have been reading this sight for about 6months now and have decided to stop being chicken and start participating. This past week we canned 70lbs of deer meat and I moved the majority of our preps to our bug out location.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      buckiqt, glad you decided to join us. Welcome to the Wolf Pack.

    • mountain lady says:

      Welcome to the Wolf Pack, and personally, I think moving your preps to your bug out location is an excellent idea.

  38. Another Heads UP: Honeyville has a 10 percent off sale going on. Here’s the info:

    Coupon Code: HOLIDAY

    SUMMARY: SAVE 10% ON YOUR ENTIRE ORDER* from Wednesday 11/30/2011 through Tuesday 12/06/2011. Stock up and save on all of your favorites, and try some of our great new items. Simply enter coupon code HOLIDAY during checkout. ORDER NOW! SALE ENDS ON TUESDAY the 6th of December.


  39. Theirdeedee says:

    I’m new to prepping and just stumbled upon this blog not too long ago and have been reading along. What a great resource!

    We face a few challenges with prepping. I have a limited amount of money I can use a month, and we live in an apartment in an east coast city (read – I want to move lol).

    Other than reading, we have started on food storage and organization. I bought some cans, and a few rounds, but mostly organization and space being dedicated to storage.

    Any advice?

    • Plant Lady says:

      You have already taken the hardest step – realizing the need to prep and making a start. Congratulations!
      And you have taken a great step forward by finding this site. Pretty much everything you need to know can be found here, somewhere. I personally keep a notebook at hand when I read here, to take notes on good ideas I wish to implement.
      And not having a lot a money can be a benefit…you can’t rush into making expensive mistakes (buying a years worth of food you won’t eat, or installing a wood cookstove in a less than optimal position, etc.)
      When you start buying your storage food, store what you already eat…then eat what you store. Don’t rush out and buy just wheat, rice, beans, dry milk, honey, sugar, etc. – unless that is all you truly like to eat on a regular basis.
      Pay serious attention to sales and coupons – buying an item when on sale with a coupon really extends your purchasing power. Once you get even a small stockpile of food & supplies, this is easier, as you don’t “have to” buy something you need at full price…because you already have a few set by and can wait for a sale/coupon opportunity. This is when you will notice your shopping cart contents are different…rather than one of everything you need at that moment – it may hold 20 each of the 5 really good sale/coupon items that week. This is when the savings really start to add up, especially with food prices rising so quickly, because by now you are buying next month’s or next year’s food with current dollars. And it starts to get fun – just like a treasure hunt! And the convenience factor alone pays off…rather than having to stop what you are doing and run to the store for an item you have run out of, you can just step to your storage area and get one! And the peace of mind knowing you can feed your family for a certain amount of time without any money is priceless!
      With the money you can save on food and supplies, you can start buying other prep items…and don’t forget to watch for sales/coupons in this area, also.
      Make as many of your purchases as possible at thrift shops, estate/garage sales, auctions, etc. You can get critical equipment for pennies on the dollar, and it will likely be older, better quality stuff than you can buy nowdays. And don’t be too proud to scavenge your relatives/friends/neighbors attics, garages, outbuildings, gardens, orchards…folks are often very glad to have you cart off things they don’t want or think they don’t need.
      And don’t forget to invest in yourself – useful skills are critcal. Visit your local library and check out books and learn how to grow food and preserve it, raise livestock, firearm use and safety, first aid, basic handyman skills, etc. Take free local adult education and cooperative extension classes Ask people you know to teach you skills they may have. Useful for the long term and short term. For example, if you can make one repair on a car or a furnace, or grow a large proportion of your food, the hundreds of dollars you can save can be used for your preps instead. And once you have useful skills, you can barter those skills for things you need…saving more money for the things you can’t do yourself.

      • Thanks for the encouragement and advice! I already coupon so this shouldn’t be too difficult… I just need to think a little further into the future.

    • Hunker-Down says:

      Welcome Theirdeedee,

      Study operational security (OPSEC). Find out why you need it, then implement it as your situation dictates. Check the archives on this blog for many good ideas.
      If I know you have a lot of stored food, I’m going to be pounding on your door when the grocery store shelves are empty. So, why did you let me see the food at your house?

      Decide what survival skills fit your personality and your circumstances., and develop those skills. Making snowshoes in Kentucky may not be good for bartering, but work well in Maine. What will the folks in your area need that you can build? M.D. says they can take your food or ammo, but not your skills (dang, wish I had one!).
      Realize that you don’t know what you don’t know, but this is the place to ask, so get busy.

    • TD,

      Welcome to the Pack. I recommend that you read M.D.’s post “10 Things to do Now” and “10 More Things to do Now”. That will give you a sound basis.

  40. Theirdeedee:
    It may appear that there are so many things you need to do at first. I’ve been at this for 10+ years and I still feel that there is so much to be done. Don’t spend time worrying about things that you have no control over. Get yourself organized, set a budget, and stick to the task. Lots of great advise on this site. Start with the basics and work up from there.

  41. OK…I need to say this: I need a glossary of all the acronyms on here! I’m getting lost trying to understand what’s being said sometimes. :/ I guess if it’s important enough, I can ask the poster for an explanation…..

  42. LINT et. al.:
    Just got a pair of flashlights from Lehman’s (http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lights___Flashlights_and_Solar_Lights___Ultra_Slim_Solar_Flashlight___10805113#10805113)

    NEBO solar flashlights. Has a solar panel that is 1.5″ x 3.5″. comes precharged and uses s 3.6V LIR2450 battery. Has a good solid feel to it. Got one for me and one for DW. Looks like I may be ordering a couple more.
    I seen wind-up and other solar lights, but these are the best feeling quality (for chinese) that I’ve seen so far.


    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      OMG, now I gotta get a couple. JP, I’m sending you the bill. 😉 They look really cool, haven’t seen that style before. I got the round solar light that rolls all over my dashboard, but this baby should stay were she’s placed. I’m sold!

  43. Cliff in Douglasville says:

    You’ll see a lot of them tossed around. A few that might help are:
    SHTF = Stuff hits the fan
    TEOTWAWKI = The end of the world as we know it
    MRE = Meals Ready to Eat
    BOB = Bug out Bag
    BOV = Bug out Vehicle
    TVP = Textured vegetable protein
    OPSEC = Military abbreviation for Operational Security
    DOMMOM = Dirty Old Man, Master of Mayhem (Me)
    LDS = Latter Day Saints or Mormon
    EMP = Electro Magnetic Pulse – Like from an atomic bomb, it will wipe out the grid (electrical grid).
    Any others, just ask.

    • LOL. I knew all these but the DOMMOM…that’s a good one! Thanks. I’ll just ask when some come up….

    • Cliff,

      You forgot my favorite one–BOGO (Buy One Get One free).

      • Cliff in Douglasville says:


        The grocery stores around my town put up a lot of BOGO offers on their signage but it’s followed in much smaller letters:
        Bacon 2.99 BOGO for 10 cents off with loyalty card.
        Eggs 2.99 BOGO for half price.
        If I buy one I want to get one given to me, not be given a little discount here and there. They always know it’s me when I get to the aisle and see the qualifiers from the loud “hurummppphhh” coming from my direction. Imagine, if you will, Mr. Wilson from Dennis the Menace, on steroids with steam coming out of his hairy ears and snatching at every clerk that gets within reach (those clerks can be quick on their feet some times).

  44. Hunker-Down says:

    Me too.


    Makes me feel dumb.
    Did I make that up or is it already in use by the two thumb mini keyboard typists?

  45. Cliff in Douglasville says:

    YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary (or you might not get the same results I did since you used old eye of newt)