What did you do to prep this week?

Well folks it looks like we’ve made it another week…

When I posted last weeks “What did you do to prep this week” segment it was nice and sunny, with the temperature in the low 70’s, well as they say around here; if you don’t like the weather stick around for a few hours and it will change…

This morning it’s a cool 35 degrees outside with a light frost on the ground… Is it just me or does it seem that the weather is getting more unpredictable every year?

Okay, before we start I would like to thank Susan B, Melody H and PM for their generous donations this week via PayPal. Thank you all very much for your support and for helping keep this blog going it’s appreciated. If you feel that the information and the community that this blog provides have helped you and you would like to make a donation to show your support you can do that here.

I noticed that my first book “Dirt-Cheap Survival Retreat: One Man’s Solution” now has 100 reviews posted… not bad for such a narrow topic. To date there has been over 10,000 copies sold and copies are still moving pretty good. Folks living off the grid in a travel trailer isn’t for everyone, but it can be done. It can be a permanent housing solution, or you can do like I did and save nearly every cent while living so cheaply in the travel trailer, eventually buying a better property, and home.

Okay, lets see… what did I do to prep this week?

Bought Carbon Express Whisker String Silencers for my compound bow.

Ordered “The Doom and Bloom(tm) Survival Medicine Handbook: Keep your loved ones healthy in every disaster, from wildfires to a complete societal collapse“.

Ordered a “Blackhawk Crucible II Folding Knife“.

Worked in my garden – planting tomatoes, peppers and pole beans…

Finished work on my shed extension that I mentioned in last weeks post…

Bought one box of Federal .223 soft point hunting ammo.

Well folks that’s it for me what about YOU? What did you do to prep this week? Let us know in the comments below… Well what are you waiting for? Start typing already…

Comments

  1. I spent a lot of time this week researching the articles on H7N9. I picked up a few more things for my pandemic flu kit: some plastic sheeting, more duct tape, two bottles of Lysol concentrate, two cases of bleach, some spray bottles, and more trash bags. I ordered a book on caring for flu victims at home called The Bird Flu Manual by Grattan Woodson. I made up a second quart of elderberry tincture. I also made a tincture that I am calling “Bitch’s Brew”—it contains red raspberry leaves and dong quai root. LOL

    I received the Kelty Redwing 50 internal frame backpack for my BOB. My dh and I were really impressed with the quality. So I ordered one for my dh as well. I still need to repack my BOB. It’s raining today so I think I will get that done.

    I tried making my own hand sanitizer. I used a recipe that called for 60 percent alcohol (90 percent pure) and 40 percent aloe. It turned out dreadfully—it’s not a “gel” at all. Does anyone have a better recipe for homemade hand sanitizer? I really don’t like using commercial hand sanitizers because of all the chemicals they put in them.

    I went to see my endocrinologist. He decided he needed to run a few tests, a metabolic panel in addition to my yearly thyroid check. I have been putting on a few pounds for no apparent reason—other than the fact that my dh had knee surgery back in November and I stayed in and ate ice cream with him instead of cycling. ☺ I should get the results from my blood work Monday or Tuesday.

    My dh asked me what I wanted for Mother’s Day so I had him order two coffee plants and a Mediterranean olive tree. I am so excited. I can’t wait until they come in. I need to read up on them so I know where to plant them. I am hoping I can keep them in pots on the front porch, which gets filtered morning sunlight.

    My garden is doing well. My pineapple is growing. My tomatoes are flowering and some have even set fruit. I put in another 20 tomato plants this week. I am hoping to grow enough myself that I can put up salsa, tomato relish and sauce without buying any from the store.

    I did buy another roll of American Eagles. I have decided to take our investment guy’s advise and move five percent of my retirement in physical PMs. That will take a while, as I don’t want to cash anything else out to do it. I will just put a little aside each month. I do think that by the time I am old enough to think about retiring I will be penalized for living within my means and setting aside money each month for my retirement—in Obama’s words, those who can afford to pay more should pay more. So I want some of my retirement savings “off the books” so to speak.

    • Bam Bam, you’re probably way to young to worry about this, but did your advisor talk about how physical PMs are treated for the required IRA distributions?

      As I understand, the year after you turn 70 1/2, you must start taking annual distributions of at least a certain minimum percentage of the value of your IRA. How do you do that, if gold is up substantially at that time? sell off a couple of coins and take the proceeds?

      I guess that’d be easier if the account had a proportion in silver to ‘make change’ with. . . .

      • worrisome says:

        Lantana you don’t have to use an IRA to acquire pm. Most advisors state that you should divide your total assets up into different classes of investments. In Bam Bam’s case they are suggesting that 5% of whatever she is holding in savings ought to be in pms. Since that can be done outside of the IRA, it is not part of IRA distribution rules and it can be cashed in as needed. Whether there will be tax consequences to using any of our savings, deferred or those subject to capitol gains in the future is crazy making because of this country’s present financial circumstances and the possibility they will tax us for breathing. As you have read I am sure, they are actually getting ready to tax the rain that falls on your property somewhere……isn’t that just ridiculous?

        • Lantana,

          I think Worrisome has it right-I don’t plan to cash in anything. All I want to do is total up my retirement stuff, take five percent of that number–and use that figure to buy that much worth of PMs.

      • Lantana,

        No, how are physical PMs treated for the required IRA distributions? I was going to hold on to my PMs for a rainy day. If that day never comes, I will pass them on to the next generation.

        • JeffintheWest says:

          Apples and oranges. If the holding is in something tangible (e.g., a gold coin), it is, by definition, not part of an IRA and therefore not subject to IRA distribution requirements (which are stupid and unnecessary to begin with in my opinion). If the administration attempts to change the rules, simply lose them overboard along with all your banned guns in the next tragic boat accident you suffer.

          • worrisome says:

            JeffintheWest, you “can” buy gold through an IRA now, but it has to be held in the vault of whoever is directing the IRA. I would never want to participate in such myself. If I am going to have gold/silver etc, I want it where I can reach out and touch it. Bam Bam’s plan to figure out what 5% of her assets are and just buy to fill that particular part of her total portfolio is the easiest. And if she buys them at a coin dealer and she pays cash, there may not be a record of her ever even having them…then “maybe” she doesn’t have to worry about losing them in the next boat accident. Damn boats anyway, I was over at the lake house the other day and took the kayak out for a bit of a row, turned it over and lost some valuables again………….guess I better give up on kayaks.

            • JeffintheWest says:

              Yes, you’re right of course, but that’s not actually buying gold in the sense we are talking about here, since basically all you’re doing is buying shares in someone else’s holdings, instead of gaining physical possession of gold itself. Like you, I want the stuff in my hot little hands, not in some vault in New York City. Likewise, you can use your IRA to invest in gold shares in the commodity market, but that’s not really buying gold either! ;-)

              Frankly, I have a 401K and an IRA, but I’ll tell you right now that I never expect to gain anything from either of them. Really the only thing they do is allow me to appear to conform, and give the government something to focus on stealing from me that I don’t actually care about, which might distract them from the things I do care about.

              I miss my kayak! (Mine was taken — along with my bike and a bunch of other stuff — by my ex when she moved out of the house while I was away; I never saw any of it again, but figured, what the hell, if that’s what she valued, so be it. At least I could get on with my life….)

            • And store physical PM in one’s own hidden safe, not in a safety deposit box at the bank which could be subject to search & seizure.

          • We’ve had several good people here lose their guns overboard to boating accidents. Tragic.

            • Encourager says:

              Sure is tragic. You gotta admit, our group here is pretty accident prone. Either that or they gotta get better boats. Those ones with the holes in the bottom don’t work so well.

            • Orwellian States says:

              I would never be so careless as to lose my guns in a boat!!! I sold them at a Tennessee gun show — the loophole = no paperwork.

          • hvaczach says:

            Or melt them down to create components for green solar panels like I did with all my guns!

            • JeffintheWest says:

              Now I like that! Hey, we should start a company that melts down guns to make wind turbines for green energy! We could call it “Solgundra.” The President will give us millions of dollars (which we can spend on preps) and then, when the company goes bust, we will get off scott-free because our hearts were in the right place!

              (Does anyone else see incredible parallels between what I just wrote and the things that went on in “Atlas Shrugged?”)

              • JeffintheWest says:

                Of course the millions of dollars will be stolen from us in the first place in the form of taxes, so now I’ve created a moral dilemma of my own, haven’t I? Ah well, some of my best plans founder on the rocks of “honesty” and “integrity…”.

                • There is no place for integrity in the world of govt contracts!

                  • JeffintheWest says:

                    Turns out not to be the case, with my company — we’ve actually turned down govt contracts we were offered for which we had no expertise. You can’t imagine how refreshing that is!

                    • hvaczach says:

                      Swimming against the beaurocracy (sorry terrible speller) thats the kind of thing that won’t be tolorated in the future! You will take and waste this money qualified or not mister.

              • breadmomma says:

                where is John Galt!?!

        • Hunker-Down says:

          Our PM,s are “off the books”, under a foot of dirt and I forgot where.

          I did have a map, but the dog ate it so I shot him with the gun I gave away prior to the Mayan calendar thing.

    • http://www.whispersfromelizabeth.com/2013/03/make-your-own-lotion.html

      She explains why she is using certain ingredients. Perhaps there is a useful tidbit.

    • Bam Bam,

      I have experience growing a coffee plant. It is relatively easy to care for. It will flower for the first time when it is about 3 feet tall. The berries will be green until they are ripe then they will turn red. Pick them when they are red. I had to cover mine from the birds. Roast them and they will turn brown.

      If you want to put the plant in a pot, use the biggest pot/barrel you can find. Your coffee beans won’t be as flavorful as if you put the plant in the ground – but the plant also won’t last as long in the ground. In addition, since you can’t mimic the high mountain air/soil they normally grow in – I don’t think you will care for the taste of the coffee. Still, I had fun trying!

      (I don’t drink coffee but after I roasted mine, I ground them up and gave them to someone else to try. I knew they would be weaker than store bought because they they didn’t have a lot of aroma as they roasted.)

      I think you will enjoy the experience anyway, the plant grows well and makes a lovely house plant!

      • Kate,

        Thanks for the information. I want to see if I can grow them. If I can have a source of caffeine after SHTF, that would be great too. I am thinking of getting a tea plant. If that fails, it’s acorns.

        • Judy, another one says:

          if you get a tea plant watch your cat! My cat thought the tea plant was a nice snack. She didn’t seem any worse for the wear(eating the leaves). It is still to cool to set house plants out, so I don’t know if it will recover from the prune job.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        Kate — you rock! Thanks for sharing that. I plan to try it. Believe me, if the S really does HTF, and things go seriously south, even weak coffee will be a useful trade item.

        One other thing, when roasting them, it’s important to be stirring them as much as you can — that’s why actual coffee roasters have that little arm that moves around the pan pushing the beans around as they are roasted. It prevents burning and underroasting and generally improves the flavor of the beans.

        • mountain lady says:

          I wonder if a popcorn popper with the stirring mechanism would work, if you kept the heat at the right temp., and I don’t know what that would be.

          • Mountain Lady,

            I have read on line that that’s what people use to roast their green coffee beans.

            • I use the Nesco professional roaster with catalytic converter! It works great, and no smoke!

            • mountain lady says:

              Bam bam, good to know that this old brain still has some good thought processes to work with, lol.

        • Alright I'm Awake says:

          Here is a good video on how to roast coffee in a popcorn popper. The guy seems to know what he is doing…lol
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjQaZahzR4
          knowing about the first crack and the second crack is important in roasting coffee.
          The popper he is using is called the Popper 2.. older model.

          AIA

    • Bam Bam,

      I wanted to compliment you on your pandemic articles – where everyone would see it.

      They were both VERY WELL researched and professionally written – and my background is such that I can say that authoritatively. Great job.

      • Thanks Michele. I spent a lot of time doing the research. If H7N9 gets bad, as it may, the article may save lives. And thanks also go to MD who published the articles at top speed.

        • Grannytraveler says:

          I have to thank you as well. Have been following the reports on the virus and it is getting scary. Must be nerves from watching the film “Contagion.” Anyway, I used your link to buy the elderberries and am looking forward to making the tincture, etc. Thanks again for the heads up.

          • Bam Bam & Grannytraveler,
            One of our MAG members is an E.R. Doc and they’re seemingly not worried about it. For now at least they are aware of it and Tamiflu is effective against it; however, anyone with heart, lung, or other compromised health conditions should keep on top of their own health and work with their family doc.

      • Bam,
        I agree with Michelle and the rest of the pack. The articles were great, really helpful. I kept putting off looking into it due to busy tax season…and I am thrilled to have the info handed to me.
        I wonder if you could add a thickener to your hand sanitizer, like gelatin, or xanthum gum or flax seed gel? Just a thought…
        God bless everybody.

      • ladyhawthorne says:

        I’ll second that, just bought some more elderberries to make more tincture.

    • Bitches Brew….hehe. Make some Bitch Be Gone spray too. It is my homeade air freshner that I squirt at annoying people.

    • Bam bam, I havent found a hand sanitizer that gels up like the store bought ones, but you can instead make a spray, or put some essential oils in shea butter, cocoa butter or coconut oil for a sanitizing “moisturizer”
      I personally keep a little bottle of spray on hand. It dries rather quickly and I can use it on cart handles ans such.

    • I don’t understand why you think hand sanitizer has to be a jell. I carry Everclear (97% grain ethanol) for this, works just fine and is far more versatile than purell. Analgesic as well as antiseptic.

      • Azyogi, lol. Everclear along with my preferred essential oil of the moment is exactly what I keep in my spray bottle.

    • Black rosé says:

      Great article on the flu. I had not done anything yet this week until I read your article. I went out yesterday and bought medical supplies. Cold medicine, band aids, lots of toothpaste and toothbrushes :) I am going to go out and look for an elderberry bush or tree today.

  2. riverrider says:

    no md, we’ve just been spoiled over the last few good years. i remember snow in april, and frost in may, back in the day. thats why the old folks never plant around here til 15 may despite what the books say…..took delivery of rice and tomato powder from ee. i’m converting over from wet canned to powder as the wet expires so quickly and tomato will eat thru the can eventually….got/read a good book, Barbed Wire, Barricades, and Bunkers. two thumbs up. cut a bit of wood. thats about it as grass cutting season has started. i never cut grass in april before. take care all, and remember the victims in texas, and boston.

    • riverrider says:

      oh yeah, bam bam reminded me…bought some shiny stuff.

      • Rider of Rohan says:

        riverrider, I bought some Maple Leafs on ebay, it was the only place I could find any. No one wants to sell their silver at a loss around here so I guess the supply has pretty much dried up. In any event, I got on the list(no 14) for silver just as soon as some comes in.

        • riverrider says:

          ror, montana rarities still has some. but, theres always a but, he has them marked up a bit due to demand. still reasonable due to lower shipping costs and compared to what we were paying for them. i think the spot is about to become a streak.

    • I think the problem with the weather is really with us. Our time here is limited and we can not live long enough to get a grasp as to what is “normal”. If there is even a normal out there.
      Every aspect of weather has it’s own cycles and they are not syncronized in any manner. Of course they also influence the other factors. The cycles do not all repeat in one persons lifetime.
      Then there is the sun…
      Anyway, thats the way I see it.

      • riverrider says:

        true ron, and add in the chinese doing large scale cloud seeding. can’t cheat mother nature.

  3. Didn’t do anything to add to my preps but did finally get around to using my foodsaver and jar attachment. Like everyone said a while back, the jar attachment is a great thing to have. The one time I went to the store last week I picked up a case of quart and pint jars and used all but one pint jar sealing several bags of beans and pasta. It works great and really puts a good seal on the jars. I also picked up two packages of fresh breakfast sausage patties and fried them all up and then put four patties in a bag and sealed them and put them in the freezer. Now in the mornings when we want sausage with our breakfast we just plop a bag in the microwave and it’s done. They taste much better than froozen patties you buy at the store. Also sealed other uncooked cuts of meats for freezer. I don’t know how we got along without it.

    Well, like I said, didn’t do much for my storage but playing with the foodsaver sure was a lot of fun.

    Oh, something I did a while back and not sure that I mentioned it here but I purchased an inexpensive laminater. It can laminate anything from a business card sized object to an 8.5 x 11 size. I laminated all my recipies that are for use now and in the troubled times ahead plus other documents. Also my social security card since it was getting pretty raunchy(and I don’t want to get a knew one). Just any and everything one wants to keep from falling apart with use. I figure having some things laminated may come in handy when conditions may not be as neat and tidy in the future.

    Have a good week ya’ll!

    • Judy, another one says:

      You may need to get a new SS card. Hubby laminated his when he first got it (mumble-mumble) years ago and they are now telling him that it is against so regulation to laminate them because it makes it easier to pass off forged SS cards. He has since got a new one. I store mine in a protective sleeve like you would store business or credit cards in.

      • That’s good to know. But, I think I’m going to keep the laminated one until I get forced into getting a new one. I’ll probably be gone before that will happen any way.

      • Schametti says:

        Yeah I remember when I had to get a new one when I got married, (thirteen years ago now), but the letter they send with it says not to laminate or it makes it.. what’s the word, illigitimate? I don’t know, but they’re “not good” anymore when you laminate them. It’s definitely a great idea to laminate recipes and things though. :)

      • My Mom laminated mine back in the day, before it became against regulation to do it. The new cards say right on them you can’t laminate them. Read your card, if it’s the old kind pre-lamination-ban it won’t say you can’t laminate it. I have gotten away with using mine because it doesn’t say not to laminate on it. Of course you might still get an officious official who doesn’t care what you or your card say.

    • Oldokie:

      We use the vac seal when we put up the dehydrated chicken. Slickest thing I’ve ever used.

  4. This wasn’t a payday week, so I didn’t get too much done,, but what I did accomplish was important. Pet Smart had Gamma Airtight storage containers on sale, so I bought one and filled it w/rice. I haven’t added the oxygen absorebers yet because I want to put some comfort food in with it,,,yummy Hershey’s chocolate. Once I have it sealed I won’t bother it,,, other wise that chocolate will be gone.

    And after reading BamBams Pandemic article, I went back and reread it taking notes. I’m in the medical field and I found it informative and well researched. From the notes I took, I have a clear path to what my prep for next week will concentrate on. Until now, my emergency med kit was stocked for ” stop the bleeding,,clean the wound,,suture the wound” . Boy do I have a whole lot more prepping to do!

  5. AZ Rookie Prepper says:

    Mostly garden work. Not a lot else to report. Prayers to all who need them. Keep on prepping.

  6. Backwoods Prepper says:

    What a week where do i begin. I worked 52 hours this week it may not sound like much but we have a full fledge homestead. I had to feed and milk every morning , come home feed the rabbits OBTW my Amercian Chinchilla doe had kitted 14 babies her daughter had 5 so I fostered 4 to her daughter so she would have less to care for. I have piggies due the end of this month. I worked in my taxidermy shop till about 9 every night trying to get the last of the deer mounted up. So between my job my homestead and my taxidermy shop I might go to the store this evening, maybe I’m pooped.

  7. Mystery Guest says:

    Not much of anything.
    Rearrangeing the kitchen because of my Wondermill. The cart I am using as an island I have turned perpendicular to the kitchen sink, it actually made the kitchen look larger. Of coarse with my Hobbit stove things looked larger.
    Took the handle off the end of the cart and as there is a 2″ over hang of genuine fake imitation marble the wondermill fits very nice and snug there. I will have to put the cheezy brakes on so when I grind the cart won’t end up in the living room.
    I put my cast iron where I had been storing my food saver stuff. Now to find a place for them.
    Why is it when you start to clean things up or rearrange things you end up with confusion and stuff all over the place.
    Hope I get this done pretty soon, the mess is driving me nuts.
    Did get more grain to store and coffee beans but that is about it.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      I love it! “…genuine fake imitation marble…” I’ll be saving that one for future use! ;-)

      • Mystery Guest says:

        JeffintheWest
        Well my dentures are referred to as “genuine fake imitation plastic”.
        I own a lot of genuine fake imitation—–whatever.
        Makes a person feel good to say it’s genuine at the start.

        • JeffintheWest says:

          You’re right, it does! That’s why they price things at $2.99 too — makes it sound less than $3.00 and therefore worth the money! ;-)

  8. We didn’t get too much done this week because we’re in between paychecks at the moment and I have been recovering from that nasty stomach bug going around. It took me about a week to really get over it and be able to eat real food again.

    I’ve got a list of things to order on next pay day. I need to decant some tinctures I have been working on for a while now and didn’t realize my bottle supply was way down – to nothing… shows you how long it’s been since I’ve mixed oils or worked with tinctures…

    Oh… I did re-work a salve I have by melting it down and adding olive oil and more essential oils. It was a lavender beeswax salve (little to no oils and made with local minimally filtered bees wax) and I added some tea tree to it. turned out pretty good and smells very tea tree-lavendery-honey-ish… I’m enjoying it.

    I cannot wait til pay day when I can hit the store to get coconut oil to work with.

    • If you have a Costco near you, check them out for coconut oil. Both the one in Folsom, CA and in Bend, OR have the really big 64 oz bottles for about $20. Remember, coconut oil has a long shelf life – I keep a bunch in my long term storage.

      • Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I don’t have a Costco in the area, just Sam’s, and it’s about 50 miles away. I used to keep it around for not only cooking, but also as a base for salves, lip balms, and creams. I just ran out after my move here (and that jar lasted me a couple years) and didn’t have a way to restock until my local stores started carrying it recently.

      • Hey Pack. Amazon has Nutiva Organci Extra Virgin Coconut Oil for 51.97 for two 54 oz containers in their subscription program. You can have it deliver on your schedule of every 1 to 6 months. I have not personally tried this item but just wanted to let everyone know about it.
        Keep the Faith

  9. Greetings Wolf Pack and preppers, It’s been quite a while since posting anything, but have been a avid follower and student of so many great ideas and advice posted here. I’ve expanded my “tub” garden to expand my herbs and vegetable production. I was able to add to my ammo stockpile. My SIL was doing some business at a local (west Texas) feed store and noticed a small supply of .303 British. Not exactly the most common caliber for preppers to seek and pursue but he remembered I had a Mark 4 in my “collection” and since ammo has been hard to find he snapped it up… at cost. The owners had had it for some time and there had been no interest , thus the discounted price.
    I also ordered several dwarf fruit trees to put in our garden. I figured I could manage these varieties more easily from my wheelchair with a little help from my blessed family. I’m going to see how Elderberries will flourish in the south-central Texas weather.

    • Dubya, have you had much luck w/plants ordered from a catolog/Internet? I would love to get a dwarf banana tree but haven’t found a local nursery that carries them.
      I wanted the dwarf variety so I can bring it indoors during the winter. Our winters aren’t horrible bit we do have enough below freezing nights that a tropical plant like that would perish.
      I want a plant that can mature and bear fruit, not die off each year to ground level and have to start at square one again,

      • R-Me,

        If you lived around here I’d hand you a shovel and let you go dig one up from the backyard.

        • Thanks for the offer B-B, but I’m a state or two further north. When we were stationed in your neck of the woods, I had a Bird of Paradise that bloomed all year,,,no nutritional value, but pretty to look at.
          Bananas are good source of potassium so I’ll keep hunting.

          • While not as tasty, dried beans have a lot more potassium than bananas. Actually so do raisins, so if you can’t grow bananas – add some raisins to your granola..

            • Did you all know that the majority of the potassium in a banana is located at the very tip–that brown tip that everyone throws away.

          • And – grow grapes!

      • R-Me,

        I have had good luck with plants orders from catalog companies.

        No problems with the trees I ordered at all. A banana tree was one of them too! Not sure you are going to get bananas though, for the tree to make fruit, it needs to be in the ground so the roots can spread. You should try it anyway! Sometimes plants defy all the rules the ‘experts’ give and produce anyway.

        If you want to guarantee tropical fruit from trees in a pot, try an orange, lemon or lime tree.

        • I have found that it is very difficult to get bananas. We have a creek behind your house and when I first moved in I planted bananas there. They get really big now. But we are not far enough south for the bananas to get big. The look like finger bananas. And they are only good for a day–they turn black almost overnight.

          • Encourager says:

            There are many types of bananas. There is a type that are tiny, like 4″ long by 1″ thick.

      • R-Me,
        I ordered my dwarf trees from http://www.directgardening.com they have dwarf banana trees.

        • Brenda,
          They have dwarf banana trees that grow to 6′ and they say it produces fruit. Very reasonable price, I went ahead and ordered one. They even offer a 1 yr guarentee.

          Thanks for sharing the link

          • My grandparents had a banana tree in South Georgia that my grandfather buried during the winter. Since it was long gone before I was born I don’t have direct knowledge but my mom said it produced. Good luck!

          • R-Me
            Glad I could help. I want a banana also but I will have to get a greenhouse before I can get one. I do not have enough space.

        • Same vendor from whom I ordered a variety of fruit trees…but, alas, not shippig dwarf citrus to Tejas. Any advice?

          • Dubya,
            I did not realize that they do not ship to TX. They do not normally ship to AZ or CA. I have seen dwarf citrus from other companies but at the moment I can’t think of one. I will look to see if I can find one of their catalogs around here. I just remembered that I got the citrus trees from Gurney’s.

            I have 2 dwarf oranges and 1 lemon. My other lemon and both limes died. I had ordered those trees back in Feb 2010. I finally received them Oct 2010 just 2 weeks after my house burned down. Trying to find a place for them proved too much. I am lucky to still have 3 of them.

    • axelsteve says:

      Dubya. There is a enfield at my local gunshop. It is in pretty nice shape although the price reflects that fact 400 dollars. They also have a few left handed rifles. The owner told me that he does not generally buy lefties. He got them in a estate sale so he had to get those to get the rest of them.

    • Dubya, Did you get it all? I will be in San Angelo in few weeks and I am in the market for some .303. Wish I still lived there….SoCal is not West Texas! God bless you.

      • Yep. Sorry, got it all.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        Lucky you — I originally wanted to retire from the military in San Angelo, but my ex decided Nebraska was better. Foolishly, I sold my house in S.A. and went with her; looks like I’ll never make it back there now, but it was the best place I’ve ever lived.

        • JITW,
          Amen, brother. Maybe one day we can both get back there for good. Thank you for your service, sir. Take care.

      • Orwellian States says:

        Enfields are not my primary guns, but I own two of them. One is a .303 and the other is in .308. Although these are not arms I would rely on, I buy ammo when I see it. They are solid guns. The commercial .303 ammo that I have found has been very expensive – about $28.00 per box.

        • OS,
          Ours is not what we would consider a primary weapon either, more like a piece of history. Would be nice to find some ammo for it, though! Take care.

  10. worrisome says:

    Went car shopping, still don’t exactly which way to go but I am going to need a bike or two if I put it off much longer. Brushed rescue dog Hope, I only mention it because someone somewhere probably knows a use for the arctic undercoat of a monster 120# dog!
    With the price down on pm, I stopped by the coin shop.
    The craziness this week had me thinking a lot about crowds and what to have in my pockets at all times. And that fertilizer fire in Texas had me thinking about not keeping all my supplies at home. Working on some thoughts on that.
    As per my budgeting, this week was a first aid/medical week. So took some coupons I had and bought some allergy meds, more first aid supplies, aspirin and such. Costco also had a no limit coupon for SalonPas, so I picked up a couple of boxes, tried some on the knee I had surgery on, slept better, don’t know if it was just psychological or what. I had some coupons for cotton balls and vaseline. Some prepper show used them together for fire starting by mushing the vaseline all over the cotton balls. So since they were just about free, I bought several, although since it is about the end of fireplace use here for the year, I will probably throw them in the next box heading to the BOL to try up there.
    Interviewed real estate agents and have figured out who to go with, relisting the lake house with these people and the sign goes up on my place sometime after the first of May.
    The boys are off the hill and home for this next week to help me around here with chores and to organize another load to go up the mountain. I have to admit that I get lonely here without them.
    I don’t know what to think about crazy Chechens and Texas explosions. Nor do I know what to think when I watched all that equipment and man power rolling in to control both events. But I do know that I was pretty much riveted to the television the whole week and I absolutely knew that prayers to God for peace, wisdom and healing were needed. Our country has become a different place my friends but just remember, there are still a lot of good people in this country………..just look at all of us here on this website. God Bless, keep working………….

    • Pet shedded fur uses. . . Spin yarn (if long hair), stuff pin cushions, deter garden pests, feed roses, leave for birds to use for nest, compost.

      http://voices.yahoo.com/how-recycle-dog-cat-human-hair-860385.html?cat=24

      I understand pet hairs smell pretty strong when burned, but if that’s not an issue, maybe that could stretch lint or cotton balls for fire starters.

    • Judy, another one says:

      I second Lantana comment on spinning Hope’s undercoat. Making a drop spindle is easy and would be a fun project winter evenings when you are stuck inside your retreat location. : >)

    • I put all my dog fur out for the birds. I stick it in the tree limbs around my pond. We have found fallen nests that had the hair woven in.
      I am glad the boys are coming by to help you. I miss all my big guys too.

  11. Southern Girl says:

    Bam Bam,

    Your article regarding H7N9 was excellent! Peds nurse for 30 years and feel your research and content exceeded many AAP articles I’ve read. Waiting for new printer to include copy in my medical prep manual. I encourage all to include this article in Your medical info. This by far has been the longest flu season in years. Hospitals beds remained full even into last week. Thank you for all your time and hard work!

    Prepping this week. Vegetables & herbs planted in my first ever raised bed & gardening alone. Planting tomatoes today & completing fence around raised beds. The Weimer loves to eat the plants as much as chasing her ball. Thanks again Wolf Pack for all advise & encouragement I receive from the posts. Have a great weekend all.

    • Southern Girl,

      Thank you. H7N9 could pose a serious risk to public health and I felt it was important to learn as much about it as possible. I am grateful that M.D. published it so quickly. This is an important topic and the media is just not giving it enough attention. A very significant percentage of those infected are barely hanging on for their lives. When they die, the numbers will get grim real quick. Spanish flu had a kill rate of about 2 percent. H7N9 may have a kill rate of about 90 percent–people are not getting better.

      • Bam bam, even 2% is some scary numbers. There is what 5 billion people on the planet, and with our way of traveling, it wouldnt be inconcievable for everyone to at least be exposed. 2% of the world population is right around 100 million people. Then you take into account that people are suffering from more diseases then when the spanish flu was around. I have read accounts of the spanish flu, and that was insane. I really think that when a flu turn pandemic, it is going to be much worse then anyone thinks.

        • worrisome says:

          TG, I have a friend that has a line of mdse that he exports to China. He also imports some amazing jewelry. But he is in and out of China via airplane many times a year. He often comes home sick, partly because he isn’t careful about proper nourishment, but also because of exposure to new germs. He just got home last week, has been so sick (again) with some virus/flu thing. One can’t help but wonder and worry about what it is and if it is “the one”. Haven’t heard from him in a few days, thinking I will give him a call in a bit.

          • Worrisome, that is exactly what I find so scary. The way people travel now, something could find its way around the world in a matter of weeks, if not days, before anyone had a clue what was going on.

            • TG,

              Depending on the R0, a contagious disease could spread around the world in a matter of days. The R0 factor is the number of people a sick person is likely to infect.

          • The surgeon who handled my wifes broken leg last year died after getting sick during a trip to China. Have not been able to learn any of the details.

      • Lets hope the warmer weather curtails the spread of this flu as it has with other strains when winter cold ends. There have been instances where certain dangerous strains mutated to be less harmful.

        My grandma spoke of her brother Joe who died of spanish flu back in WW1 while he huddled in the rainy, mud filled and frozen trenches in France with his fellow soldiers in winter. Many soldiers died of this pandemic because of the horrible conditions they lived in as well. I would also consider the kill rate of this H7N9virus on Chinese farmers and poor folk because of their bad living conditions. Most of them don’t have a well balanced diet to fight such a disease, and what reports I read about rural chinese, few even heat their shacks except when cooking rice, their main staple. I noticed here in the US, our rate of survival is much higher in flu epidemics than China.

  12. Lauri no e says:

    Not much this week, I went to the store and stock up on more food and over the counter meds. I did buy 3 Arcticties. My husband works outside so he puts the tie on and then I found those O2Cool Deluxe Necklace Fan. It doesn’t keep him cool if he is walking fast but if he is still in one spot working on repairs it helps keep him cool.

    The Arcticties are in the camping section and the little fans are on the same aisle as the fans. (Both at WM)

    Prayers to all, and especially to Boston and West, Tx

    Bam Bam, your did a great job on your article.

    Be safe and keep prepping.

  13. Good morning ‘Pack,
    Added some You Tube content about black powder guns for home defense, finished tilling the garden, lol I know it’s late but we’ve had a loooooonnnnng winter. It was down in the high 50’s last night. Brrrrr. My planter planted tomatoes are going like gang busters. Even DW had to admit I may be able to grow something other than dirt. The fruit tree is taking off too. I’m mostly concentrating on food preps as my water and self defense preps are leveled off for now. Thinking about picking up some more silver while it’s at a good price.
    Do any of the ‘Pack do metal detecting as a hobby? Is it more hobby than profit or do you think it’s worth while?
    That’s all I have for now, may the Lord keep you and yours in his graces.

    • Mexneck,

      It isn’t too late to start your garden. There have been some years that I didn’t plant a summer crop until June 30th.

      You can be eating fresh tomatoes & green beans at Thanksgiving when everyone else is using canned or frozen!

    • Mexneck,

      I didn’t read your last question until after I hit “submit”.

      We have a metal detector. To find stuff, it is all about where you look. Things wash up out of the ocean all the time.

      • Didn’t mean to hit ‘submit’ yet –

        If you live in the middle of civil war or revolutionary war country, you can find lots of good stuff (not on federal land though). If you live out west and can go to old ghost towns, you can find stuff. If you live where there is a gold vein, you will find stuff.

        It is fun and will get you up off the couch and moving. Consider it a hobby and then when you find something you will be thrilled!

        • Encourager says:

          You can also use them along abandoned railway lines. Find some good stuff that way. Also at parks after a big holiday weekend like Memorial Day, 4th of July, etc. But get there at dawn…

        • Hi Kate,
          Yes, I’m really weighing getting a metal detector and going to some old ghost town sites around here. Should be pretty fun. What I was saying about the garden is that I thought soil preparation took a long time so that I may not get a good showing, but if you planted in June and had edibles I should be OK. Thanks for the tip. My garden is about 6×8 so I don’t know how much produce I will get but at least I’m going to try. Better to do it now that next year when I’m sure I’ll need to depend on it.

    • Mexneck, I feel your pain, mid April and it is 50 degrees. I woke up yesterday freezing cold. Of course by the end of the day I was in a tank top and shorts because it warmed right up.
      My tomayoes are also doing beautiful but my herbs are trying to bolt and my cilantro is flowering. *sigh* the hardships of Texas. Lol.

  14. MD, funny you should mention “Dirt Cheap…”, as today I am picking up my “dream” trailer from a fella in Oakland. It’s basically a slightly modified box trailer with some sliding windows near the floor on each side and in front. It doesn’t look like much, and that’s a GOOD thing, because not only will it be our ever-ready camping rig (it’s just big enough inside to accommodate a queen air mattress for me and the wife, along with some gear), it’s also going to be our bugout rig to tow behind the FJ.

    I have wanted a trailer for a long, LONG time, mostly for camping… something less than a true camping trailer but a little more than a box trailer. When I started prepping, the urgency to get one definitely increased. I have been scouring Craigslist for quite awhile, waiting for the perfect rig at the perfect price, and this week it showed up!

    I am 43 this week, so happy birthday to me!

    • jaxun,

      Sounds like a good deal – and happy birthday…

    • Happy Birthday! Good score on the trailer! We had one for motocross that we installed fold down bunks on the walls that left alot of room for alot of stuff! We also had an air mattress, but the first time it deflated in the middle of the night, Mamas butt was in a bunk. Have fun.

    • Encourager says:

      jaxun, Happy birthday!

    • Thanks for all the birthday wishes. The trailer made it home in one piece and still attached. My mind is whirling with possibilities for building it out and cleaning it up.

      Oh great, another obsession.

      • k. fields says:

        Hey – My birthday is 4/20 also!
        Was the day celebrated down your way like it was up here in Northern CA today? We can always pretend it’s our birthday being celebrated, right?
        And congrats on the trailer, sounds like a great project.

        • Happy belated birthday to both you and Jaxun. Although, there is NO rule that says you can’t celebrate for two days – or even two weeks. Keep celebrating!

        • Hahahaha, NorCal 420, I getcha. Mine is in a few days actually. My wife and stepson gave me a cake yesterday though. It, however, will not last a few days.

    • Happy Birthday and Happy Camping, Jaxun!

    • axelsteve says:

      Jaxon. I have seen people with F J cruisers pulling a airstream base camp trailer. seems like the fj was made to pull them things.
      Pretty cool looking setup.

      • I looked a lot at those kinds of trailers. Maybe someday. For now, this one is perfect. I couldn’t even tell it was behind me coming back over the San Rafael Bridge and up 101 coming home.

        • axelsteve says:

          Jaxun. I hear ya on the trailer that Airstream cost more then your fj. I remember the San Rafael bridge. Some folks call it the San Quention bridge also.Good luck on your project.

    • Happy B-day! Congrats on your trailer. I have seen solar roof fans for sale for those hot days without electricity. I was saving for a camper myself but the old Dakota wore out and got a Suburban instead. I work at 9 campgrounds all summer up north here in MN and have seen some neat setups, for most of the camps have no power and camp hosts stay the whole season.

  15. Well with finally being back to work full time it has cut down on time I get to spend prepping, but not as much as the damn weather has. Really want to get the garden tilled but it keeps snowing. My seed taters have little arms growing already and I need to get them in the ground. Just waiting for my batch of apple cider to decide to quit fermenting so I can sample the quality. Searched to no avail for 9mm, and .22 long rifle, did pick up another 20 rounds of 30-06. The dw and I talked about adding a blueberry bush and a raspberry bush, to go along with a strawberry patch we want to add if it ever thaws! Waiting to try and swoop in on a good priced apple tree as well have one and another at a rental I own but with learning how to make hard cider and potentially “Apple Jack” can’t have too many. Really this week was all about planning ahead, and putting some quality play time with my boy’s.

    • Schametti says:

      I bought blueberries and an apple tree myself this week.. make sure you do a google search, your blueberry bush will need a buddy, and so will your apple tree, (but not the same kind on the tree, which is kind of confusing, lol.. so make sure you get one the cross-pollinates well with it), and so on and so forth.

      • Thanks for the info i guess i knew that about the apple tree but never even accured. To me in regards to the blueberry. Bush

        • Make sure you get the second kind that blooms the same time as the first one! For example, if the first kind of apple tree is an early bloomer and the second kind is a late bloomer, you will not get apples.

          • I have the one mature apple tree now but get varying results one year tons of apples then the next year or two hardly any hoping adding a second or third will allow it to produce more reguraly is this logical?

            • hvaczach,

              Not necessarily. Some varieties produce that way. Do you know what variety you have?

              Go ahead and add a second tree. Get a different variety so that when the first tree isn’t producing the second tree will.

              • No it was here when we bought the place it was actually the only tree on the property at the time. The apples are not as tart as say a crab apple but definatly still more suited to pies etc than pick and eat. I believe will make a really good spunky cider. I am thinking of maybe a Gala, or Honeycrisp type tree a really good pick and eat apple for my second tree any suggestions.

                • Crabapples are great for cross-pollination with other apple trees and was recommended to us when we bought our apple trees.

                • Pick a kind you like to eat that are suited to your growing conditions. Your county can give you a list of what does well where you live. Once you have that list, it is time for taste testing to find the one you want!

                  Gala are my favorite. I do everything with them, sauce, apple pie filling, apple butter and fresh eating.

                  • Schametti says:

                    Hey Kate! Do you know a little about blueberry plants? I thought I got two of the same kind, but apparently, even though they look identical, one is a Bluecrop or something, and one is an O’Neal. Do you know if these will cohabitate, (ie; cross pollinate), or if I’m going to need to get another one of each. :/

    • For fruit tree pollinators, check Raintree Nursery’s website. Their catalog has a great printed sheet.

  16. Mrs. K in MO says:

    Well, we got a ton of rain here in the show-me state this week so getting in the garden is completely out of the question. So that’s a bummer, but I think we can safely say that we have recovered from the drought. Finally managed to get my hands on a few bricks of .22 ammo. Getting the chicken fence up today. My free range chickens wont be happy with that. I’m tired of them scratching the seeds out of the garden after I have planted them and pecking holes in my tomatoes, so they are going to spend some time penned this summer. It’s a pretty big pen so they wont be to confined.
    On my way to china-mart in a little while to pick up some canning jars and lids and various other stuff. Also found a multi tool on sale to add to my my get home bag. All in all, not a bad week. Hope you all have a great weekend!

    Also, I would like to add that I think its “shameful” that our POTUS thinks it’s “shameful” that our senators upheld our 2nd amendment right. And it’s “shameful” that he uses the heartbreak of others to promote his agenda.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      I liked Max Baucus’s response to those who accused him of “cowardice” for voting against the bill — he laughed and said, “I voted the way my state wanted me to vote.” Which also, btw, gives the lie to the often ballyhooed “90% of Americans wanted this bill” crap from our Dear Leader.

      While he’s still a Democrat, at least in this instance he seems to understand the word “represent” is different from the word “dictate.” Too bad McCain doesn’t seem to get it….

      At the local hardware store (here in California), one of the clerks manning the counter next to the guns, got into an argument with a customer over whether or not guns were dangerous when he told him, “I could load my .45 pistol and set it right here on the counter and it wouldn’t hurt anyone!” The customer got irate and said “You can’t say that!” Clearly the customer thought the gun would pick itself up, cock itself, and then shoot him. The customer got hooted out of the store by the other customers. Even in California, some people get it, it seems. Unfortunately, they can’t get elected apparently.

      • Jeff:

        Max is trying to get reelected. His brother in crime, Sen Tester barely got to keep his job. Max was warned about his votes as he was a big supporter of Obamacare. Evidently he got the message.

        I have a friend how was in DC and talking to a pro-gun control guy. The PG guy was in favor of LEO’s being able to come into your home to “inspect” your guns. My friend said “If you try that in Montana you will probably end up buried in the back 40.”. The guy seemed genuinely surprised the response. I want a frame for my licence plate on my truck that says “911? Why, I have 160 acres and a backhoe.”

        • JeffintheWest says:

          Oh absolutely on Max — he was one of the authors of the health care obamanation, if I recall correctly. Like I said, in THIS instance he seems to have done the right thing. Re-election, like the knowledge you will be hung in the morning, seems to be a powerful motivator.

          Love the idea of the back-hoe plate! Liberals in general never cease to amaze me with their complete inability to understand human nature, and their supreme egotism and narcissism. They seem to think that “someone else” will always protect them and feed them, and take care of them, so they can focus on the really important things — dictating our morality, our rights, our education, and our belief system. If they ever find themselves in a world without police protection, electricity, and iPhones/MSNBC so they know what to believe, I suspect they’ll all be dead within a few weeks.

          • Wonder how many gun haters in Boston area suddenly had a lightbulb light up over their heads?

        • In Texas, we don’t dial 911.

          • Dear criminal/home invader/other morally destitute human, the locked door you broke thru was not for my protection but for yours. At this point begging and pleading will do you no good as I suspect you would not have extended me or my family such a courtesy. If you feel the need to scream for help feel free but remember it will not arrive in time. So it is at this point you have to ask yourself if you can outrun buckshot or if I am possibly that bad a shot. I hope you have ID so I can alert the proper authorities of whom broke into my home.

          • Mexneck,
            If you don’t call 911, then who does the cleanup after the fact?

      • Mrs. K in MO says:

        I’d like to know where he’s getting this 90% from. I don’t know anyone “for” gun control! But then I live in the middle of redneck heaven. Who did they poll? A bunch of east coast libs?

        • Numbers don’t lie Obama does! And I also live in redneck heaven, about 600 miles north of your heaven I suspect it’s a little colder in the winter but at least we get your humidity in the summer!

        • Sw't Tater says:

          they poll the liberal university staff and students that have been brainwashed for 12+ years.

        • Shades of Green says:

          Mrs. K in MO,
          I wondered the same thing because no one called and asked me. I found out that it was a poll taken in DC of 1012 people and they came away with that figure. No wonder!! DC, Please. The poll they keep referring to is as bogus as they are. It makes me sick that they keep pushing that figure. It is a down right lie.

    • I could not agree more, MrsK. Take care.

      • hvaczach says:

        Unfortunatly the truth doesn’t pay. That’s why you can’t get a common sense canidate elected in California. However welfare dispersments, Government housing, and promises of lax immigration gets you elected in the south west. And South Dakotans can’t say much we reelected the worst tax and spend democrat in U.S. history for thirty years in Tom Daschle, a gun and freedom hating elitist but kept getting elected. In 2014 we will right our last wrong as Tim “I only care about South Dakota in an election year” Johnson will be retiring and that seat will almost certainly go conservative. Perhaps former governor Mike Rounds or our current house seat Kristie Nome.

      • Mrs. K in MO says:

        Thank you. You too!

  17. axelsteve says:

    Good morning pack! I have been doing physical training this week. I helped a co worker game the system and bought some nwo ammo this week. Wally got a good shipment of 5.56. My buddy bought 3 boxes as policy limit. He gave me money to buy 3 boxes at lunch. Then after work I changed my shirt and bought 3 more boxes of ammo. I told him that is my way of sticking it to the man.He was happy since he built himself a ar carbine.They iether did not have any 22 lr or it sold out so fast that they were out before he saw any.And mr Barry thinks new gunlaws will do anything to prevent criminals getting guns.

  18. Good morning, dear wolf pack. I must have accomplished something this week, I am so tired. Actually, I have gone from “I will never get it all done” to “Dang! I can’t believe it turned out that well !”.

    I… ordered 25 elderberry bushes ( flu is coming this way)
    had 5 trees cut down (working on cleaning up the mess)
    got the small greenhouse put up (my ds did most of the work)
    put away 50# of dry milk (thank you, food saver)
    put away 50# of dry pet food ( ditto, food saver)
    bought winter clearance clothes and shoes (90% off)
    bought and planted assorted herbs (for tea garden)
    finished rebuilding and netting the grape arbor ( take that, deer)
    reworked my “to do” list (for next week) and
    prayed for the wolf pack ( so much going on in this old world)

  19. Not too much to add to the preps, mostly just planning. However, yesterday I went out and hit a couple thrift stores, and made some huge scores (for me). I found a pair of those insulated coveralls in XLT size which will fit my sons for $10. Then I found a copy of the same Betty Crocker cookbook my daughter bought me when she was 4 (cute story, but I won’t tell it here) which was in binder form and now 34 years later some of the pages are missing. Anyway, got i t hard bound – with the cover torn a little for $1 and felt like a millionaire walking out with that little treasure.

    Then, the Salvation Army thrift store is going out of business here in Newport, OR, so scored a BUNCH of baby clothes in various sizes for 25 cents each. No I’m not expecting and neither are any of my children – but if THSTF and there is no birth control – there will be babies. Now I just have to drag it home and put it in my baby bins.

    • Salvation Army thrift store going out of business???? !!!! Wow about three years ago I could always find parking at the Goodwill and Salvation Army thrift stores that are located within a mile or so of each other. Last month I went to see if I could get some furniture to refinish. Not only could I not find parking, all the good pieces were marked as sold before I got there. My guy there told me that if you don’t get there before Noon good luck getting any bargains. So it’s interesting to me that yours is closing.

  20. Greetings Everyone.

    I am just returning home after an interesting month of being away. I tried several times to post before we left and couldn’t because I was getting an error message. I had no phone or internet service unless I went to the Ranger station and my daughter used that time to do her school work.
    I wanted to post my sincere thanks and kind reviews of the items I won in the last writing contest.
    All the sponsors were so kind, prompt and generous. I felt like I had won the lottery and had Christmas at the same time. I urge everyone to continue writing and summit their articles! My biggest thanks goes to our bestie MD, who makes all this possible.
    The Berkey has been in use all month to filter our water while we were away. I loved the size. It fit perfectly on the camper counter.
    The MRE’s we here in just a few days! We haven’t tried one yet as I feel we might really need them soon. Anthony from Lucky Gunner sent an email the very next day with a gift certificate. It was so kind for them to make it good for an entire year. Amazing! They have an awesome website, with a hilarious video explaining how the ammo shortage has affected their company. I hope no one else feels the need to sell anymore vital organs for ammo. LOL. I have not ordered ammo yet because I am waiting for a certain odd caliber that I can’t get locally.
    Our new Wondermill Junior has been mounted on a butcher block island. My daughter is in LOVE with it. Her little arms have cranked out some amazing baked goods and cereals.
    The VCN service has been awesome. It makes me feel so much safer knowing that I can search on the internet without spying.
    I am looking forward to ordering more items from these sponsors to help to support them in turn. I have already sent reviews out on Facebook and email to all my friends and family.
    Thank you all once again. I am humbled and blessed.

    Well, back to my adventure. With all the big boys in the family all working out of state I decided to go for a walk about with my daughter. We did a bug out by ourselves (therightway this time) and traveled to some remote areas I have been wanted to check out for some time.
    We plan on bugging in if at all possible, but without the man power for security we might have to leave if things go sour very quickly. I am looking at some good cache spots and remote places to camp within walking distance for us. I loathe the fact that I might be forced to leave. It really chaps my ass to no end, but that is the reality if my men can not make it home. No sense in gripping, just get on with it.
    I have been looking into the Native American cache areas which still exist hundreds of years later. My daughter and I have rock climbing experience so this was an interesting concept for us. We can distrub those sites but have taken the idea for our own.
    We first did the full bug out by ourselves. We streamlined the whole process quickly with only two of us to care for. I locked up the farm with a neighbor to care for animals every 3 to 4 days. They have plenty to get them by. We had a great time. We had plenty of food, and the water source was good filtered through the Berkey. We stuck it out through some terrible winds and dust storms. One day it actually rained mud. The air was so full of dirt when it started to rain, we were getting hit with mud drops. What a mess. It was hard to keep everything clean without using a tremendous amount of water. We decided to come home because we were tired of the grit and grime.I have lived dirty before, but that was an experience.

    We are still in severe drought with no end in sight. I have decided to plant very small this year to conserve water. Set plantings up on low pressure drip and work on other projects like water storage and improving my soil. I have several ideas in mind for the low pressure drip because I do not want to haul buckets or drag hoses. Running sprinklers is huge waste of water. Of course we have water rights and plenty of water shares, I feel it is important to learn how to water when we don’t have the pressurized water available. Running drip from elevated water collection sources is my goal this year.I also need to work rain gutter systems and get my big cistern buried.I want to have 3000 gallons of stored water by this fall.

    I have enough food stored that I am able to downsize like this. It is not a good idea to overplant if it is a bad drought year. I urge everyone to double plant in times of plentiful moisture. You can’t have too much! You can sell or barter the rest.

    The livestock has been culled to the minimum. I have plans to buy my pork from a neighbor and paid a deposit. My freezer is full of beef, elk and deer. I am good.

    I will have enough time on my hands to do more traveling, caching and improving security. And praying that my family can make it home quickly and in one piece.. Praying for moisture. I will be an interesting year.

    BTW, My son paid for a gun at a pawn shop in January. He did his background check and didn’t pass. We did not know why. I went in the shop, did the background check and picked it up. I didn’t want him to lose his money. It all seemed innocent enough. We know the merchants very well and all seemed fine.
    Since, we have found out it was an identity mistake that he didn’t pass (because of a name change after his father died) and we all got letters for the CBI that we had violated some laws. Now we have the CBI up our collective asses. The SSA thinks my son is an illegal immigrant and the state he was born in refuses to correct his birth certificate because the court documents form 1989 were not sufficient for the new laws. I have swam in some cesspools before, but not one as stench filled as this.We are close to getting it resolved. He actually could have lost his job because he was not concidered a citizen for a month and a half.
    The shop got fined for allowing us to purchase the gun. I read them the riot act for making him pay before the check and not offering him a refund. Dirty little shits deserved it. We have given them a lot of business.
    I got a nasty letter and an interview. My son did also. He had to go to Denver to talk to them. It seems they don’t like turning someone down to purchase a firearm and then let their mother pick it up. They will not be pressing charges or detaining anyone. We got a good spanking though.
    I can’t say more than that.
    Who’da thunk it? Big Brother is watching folks…..
    Since I am now on a list somewhere I think I might need to move….or keep my head way way down for a long time. Just sayin. Bummer.
    A cool rainy climate is calling my name these days.

    I am looking forward to reading the posts since I have been gone. Bam Bam’s flu series is calling my name! Have a great week.

    • Mama J.,

      I am glad you are back home and back online. I’ve missed your cheery posts. :) Sorry to hear all the trouble. My dh has a concealed permit and the was conditionally approved (had to wait three days) two times in a row. FDLE says it is because of a record in NJ but NJ has no record. This whole thing is a pain in the butt.

      Are you really thinking you might be forced off your land? Dang. Get a shotgun. Get one for your daughter too. My dh and I have met a lot of prepper friends or shall I say we discovered that many of our friends are preppers–like just about everyone in our immediate circle. We feel better knowing we have friends who’ve got our backs. And we have theirs too.

      • Bam Bam,
        Thank you Sweetheart.
        I was considering moving because I don’t like being on the radar for anything. The most I have exposed myself online is through this blog. It is so fun, it is worth the risk.
        The whole thing with the gun purchase kinda freaked me out. Also, my sons citizenship and birth certificate issues.
        I worry about being overrun SHTF if my family is not home. We have trained and planned to have a certain amount of people for security. I am good friends with our neighbors and we do watch each others back everyday.We have a neighborhood plan in place for security. We can not predict what will happen, but can plan for the worse.
        My daughter and I are at more risk by ourselves. I have to sleep and work. So, I am planning on having a good number of supplies available to us if something happens. If the boys can make it home, I will feel perfectly safe here.
        I am having bad vibes about the government trying to remove folks from their homes or taking our preps. I guess I am having an overall feeling of insecurity.
        I am trying to shake it off. I need Harry Potters Invisiblity Cloak!

        • Oh, I forgot. among our firearms that were stolen…clearing throat…are some very nice shotguns. My daughter had a youth 20 gauge. I have survived the shotgun tactical courses also.

          • Mama J.,

            Remember thieves will attack the weakest link. It doesn’t sound like your home and neighborhood is a weak link. Pray about it. Then load those shotguns. :)

        • MamaJ, I understand completely. Being on the radar would be very unsettling. We will just have to pray that God will deal with your family’s “record”, or the officers who would use it against you in some way. He still provides miracles.

  21. Rider of Rohan says:

    Busy week working and prepping, folks. Read Bam Bam’s article and loaded up on flu supplies. I bought five 8oz. bottles of elderberry syrup, 500 disposable gloves, and 100 masks. I also ordered dried elderberries so that I can make my own tincture. Added two more NBC suits, a respirator, large trash bags, visqueen, and quite a bit of tape to make an isolation room. Thanks for all the research, Bam.
    I also went into a little bit of a panic because I don’t have enough food and water. I decided to add to my water supplies, and bought 6 large cases of water, 4 more buckets of Mountain House food, and super pails of oats, beans, and sugar. I also bought another case of organic coffee.
    I planted some squash and I have some tomatoes in the house that I will take outside when frost chances are over, which should be anytime now.
    I also found some am-mo in a popular caliber that was a little pricey, but I went ahead and took it anyway.
    Watched a lot of news on the Boston bombers, found it gratifying that as soon as they lifted the curfew and people were allowed to go outside, the bomber was discovered. And not by the police, FBI, ATF, HS, etc. Mark another win up for free enterprise.

    • riverrider says:

      yeah, and one guy got arrested for going about his business. and the sheep applauded the wolves for violating them.

      • riverrider says:

        and what jurisdiction did the dea have there? men, twenty years ago there woulda been a firefight between the cops and feds. now the cops are all too happy to hand it over.

      • Rider of Rohan says:

        I don’t know whether you saw this on the news or not, riverrider, but the database for all the Concealed Carry License holders in the state of Missouri has been turned over to the ATF. The head of the Department of Revenue resigned this past week, and I think more heads are about to fall. The Democrat governor of Missouri claims to not know anything, but an incriminating e-mail has shown up.

        In any event, I doubt that Missouri was the only state asked by the ATF to turn over their list of concealed carry holders, so all of us who have CC licenses are most likely on an ATF database somewhere. And at the top of some one list or another, IMHO. That’s one reason I am moving as soon as I can to another state.

        • riverrider says:

          ror, saw that. my state just passed a confidentiality law for cc holders. that said, every cop that runs my plate somehow knows i have one. when pressed they give me a warning and beatfeet back to their care. state law prohibits records outside the courthouse of origin……

          • Rider of Rohan says:

            Missouri had a confidentiality law as well, riverrider. I contacted my state about it, and the answer I got was, “We turn over the list only to law enforcement authorities, or other entities described in the law.” That reply left me cold.

            • riverrider says:

              ouch! talk about a knife in the back.

              • Shades of Green says:

                When TSHTF we really won’t need CC permits. Everyone will be carrying regardless. That is one reason I haven’t done it yet. I don’t want to be on any more lists than I already am probably. I even had an online argument with some idiot in NY I think that we do run background checks here in the south if you buy from a dealer. I even told him the only way to not go through a check was to buy from a personal seller . He flat out called me a liar. I told him he needed to re check his facts because I live in Ga. and have bought 3 guns and every time had a check done. Some people just get me.

                • riverrider says:

                  yes, they can’t be bothered with facts. my dil is a very smart girl but she believes everything she hears from the libs, and will loudly argue with me until i show her in writing, then she feels foolish.

  22. JeffintheWest says:

    So, the land hunting thing here in California has finally fallen through. We therefore had a long sit-down (actually several, over several days) and have decided to leave California and head back to the Rocky Mountain states! YAY!

    Frankly, I was getting so annoyed by California’s rules about everything anyway, and the last straw was when we found out that you have to ask permission to plant a hedge on your own property (even if it’s NOT in some place that would block a driver’s view of the road)!

    California is beautiful, and the climate and weather are both good for growing, water is plentiful, and the soil is excellent. But the politicians and nanny-state advocates have ruined paradise with stupid rules and regulations. Another classic one — Berkey won’t ship a water filter here because of some stupid law requiring all portions of any device made for use with drinking water to be tested for lead content (even if there are no elements in it that are lead or use lead or are even near lead at the time of manufacture) at the manufacturer’s expense, but which then fails to state what tests are “acceptable” the liberal jackwagons that wrote the bill — meaning the manufacturer might do the testing, find out the test they used isn’t “acceptable” and be forced to completely re-test the whole thing. Similarly, there is a bill in the State Senate for consideration that will require every restaurant to similarly test every one of their recipes for a complete chemical analysis — again, at the restaurant’s expense. If you change the sauce on your meatloaf, you have to test it all over again. The effect of this bill will be to simply destroy the restaurant business here in California — almost every mom and pop place will be forced to close because of the ruinous expense of the testing, and only the big chains will be left (like McDonalds, for example). Democrats sponsored it (“if we can save even one life”) and it was passed through committee on a straight partisan vote (which is also how it will no doubt be passed into law). Of course the other side effects of this bill will be to further weaken the state’s tax base and to throw literally hundreds of thousands of low-income workers out of jobs and ruin the livelihood of tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, but hey, it’s all for the children, right? You’d think common sense and compassion might stop such a vicious bill from being promulgated in the first place, wouldn’t you? But that’s not the Pelosi/Feinstein (and their ilk) way! And don’t even get me started on guns…. No, I won’t miss California at all — we’re out of here on the 7th of May. Thank God I never became a citizen of this ridiculous state. End of rant.

    • We had the same sit down talk this week about leaving the state we’re in. I have one feeler out for the western part of the state, but if that falls through, we have decided to relocate completely. We have been doing some serious homework here in the past couple days on the top places for education and then looking at demographics for those places, shopping, places of interest, and all sorts of other factors we’re going to plug into out analysis. As of right a few of the top states are Texas, Colorado, and Utah… there’s others, but those are what I can remember off the top of my head.

      • Shandi,
        I am greatly disappointed in Colorado for many reasons. K-12 education is one of them. I can’t speak for college level.
        In my research Utah has more money for educators and students. They also have no laws against teachers having conceal carry. Many parts of the state are very beauitful. Some won’t live there because of the high number of Mormon folks. I have never had a problem with them. Plus, they prep.
        Happy Hunting.

      • hvaczach says:

        Avoid Colorado quickly going anti-gun and is a liberal bastion in the midwest. The Dakota’s are great other than the winters. Texas is well Texas, can’t get more conservative. I would avoid Minnesota good paying jobs but very high taxes. Have lived in Iowa and Nebraska the only problem with both is Des Moines and Omaha respectivly have all the people and thus control all the elections, so hard to get away from the bleeding hearts.

        • Taxes here are not that high in rural Northern Minnesota. My property tax for 4 acres, a newer 3 bd home and 2 car garage is about $325 a year. Sales tax is not on food or clothing, otherwise average for the country. State income tax is higher for the very wealthy, otherwise they give me a full refund of what I paid in.
          Living in the twin cities is more expensive, but jobs pay well with the right education degrees as in any major metropolitan area, but in these times who wants to live in concrete urban areas with a collapse coming?

      • WOW! Thanks y’all! We will definitely add all of that info into our analysis.

      • Rider of Rohan says:

        I have a son in Colorado and that state is rapidly declining into a liberal hell-hole. I’m from Texas and its getting too crowded for a retreat, I’d suggest Oklahoma or Arkansas in the middle of the country, Tennessee or Kentucky in the East, and Utah, Idaho or Montana in the West. I’ve been doing a lot of research on retreat locations, and there are some places in just about every state that are good just so long as it’s not controlled completely by Democrats.

        • I actually just texted a relative in Oklahoma to ask about things there and have a couple of recommendations form them. It’s nice to see that info seconded here too. Thanks!!

          • Shandi,
            I don’t know where you live now. If you are used to a humid climate.
            I have owned property in Oklahoma for 25 years. I didn’t sell it because I have family there that enjoys hunting on it and such.
            I moved becasue of the humidity, the tornados and ice storms.
            If those things don’t bother you it is a great state with friendly people. Some parts are very lovely. The Northwestern part if full of lakes, trees and nice properties. I don’t know to much about the rest, sorry.
            I live in Colorado because of the beautiful mountians and the desert isn’t far. I love the climate because I love snow. I doesn’t get terribly hot and the evenings are cool in the summer. The growing season is short but intense.The bugs aren’t bad.
            The whole state is not a liberal hell hole. Most rural counties are Republican conservative farming families. Like I said earlier the education is not the best. But the scenery is to die for.
            If I was to move from here I would look at Idaho, and Washington. I will be doing some road trip to those areas soon. Happy Hunting and good luck.

            • Mama J,

              I’m in the South and in a VERY humid state. I never had to put on lotion growing up until I moved to Tennessee, which is much less humid than the state I’m from and currently live. Funny too, tornados and ice storms aren’t that uncommon down here either… I do have family in Oklahoma and right now we’re talking to them about the areas around them that may work out for us.

              • Shandi,
                You would not have a problem with in Oklahoma! I grew up there and had an wonderful adventurous childhood. It is an awesome state if you love the weather.
                My husband is from south Georgia and loves living in the mountians now. But to each his/her own. You wil never know until you try.
                It is very very dry here. We go through BUCKETS of lotion.

              • Rider of Rohan says:

                Shandi, there are a couple of other things about Oklahoma I like. First, they have open carry, which I like a lot. Second, land is pretty cheap compared to many parts of the country. But, I would stay in the eastern part of the state unless you have good access to water. Western Oklahoma is dry. The Ouachita Mountain area adjacent to Arkansas is a great place for a retreat, and the Ozark area in the Northwest part of the state is good, but there are many more people there.

                • Survivor says:

                  RoR
                  You’re correct that we have open carry, but that is restricted to CCW holders.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        Yeah, our top picks (because my S.O. ruled out Texas — too hot, plus she got a bad taste from living in Houston when she was modeling back in the 80’s) were Idaho, Oregon, and Colorado, with New Mexico a distant runner-up (we came here to California from New Mexico, and frankly, while we love NM, it’s turning into another California right now). I still think Idaho has some serious possibilities (love the Coeur d’Alene area especially), but she’s never been there and doesn’t realize how nice it is. She talks about Utah occasionally, but doesn’t seem terribly interested, which is too bad. I think it’s the “Mormon issue” even though I told her we practically speaking live like Mormons right now, so the Mormons would love us (I’ve always gotten along well with Mormons and one of my best friends once told me I was a “dehydrated Mormon — just add water” since I believed all the same things about self-sufficiency and gun ownership and prepping.)

        Oregon turns out to be too highly taxed, especially if you want to open a small business, so we dropped it. Looks like Colorado is the winner, right now, and we’ll head there in May to look around. If it doesn’t feel right to her, I’ll continue campaigning for Idaho or Texas.

        Colorado’s higher education has a good reputation and seems to not be completely overrun with liberal idiots as yet. The new gun laws are a bad sign (though nothing like the BS in NY), but even law enforcement hates them (and 16 County Sheriffs are suing to get them overturned), so it may still turn out okay. Taxes remain relatively low (though not in comparison to Texas, but then no one can compare to Texas when it comes to taxes). And there’s a lot more water than there is in NM!

        • My parents are in Cali and I can completely understand why you wanna get out of there. My dad keeps talking about retiring to Idaho, but I don’t think I can handle to cold too far north… I’m southern born and bred.

      • Schametti says:

        Yeah I know the pack has already cautioned you on Colorado, but I agree. I have a friend, and a cousin I talk to regularly in Colorado, and it’s illegal to collect rainwater, they’re inching closer to banning guns, etc. They both want to move out of there, so definitely go with Texas, or… other places on your list.. if you have choices.

        • Schametti says:

          Personally, given where I am now, and where I would love to be, if I had a chance to start all over, looking for a new prepper-tastic home location, It would probably be Tennessee. :)

        • JeffintheWest says:

          Actually, further research reveals that’s not entirely the case. Water cachement from rain was completely illegal in Colorado (as it is in Utah, by the way) from statehood — that is for over a century, but just recently Colorado passed a bill permitting certain persons with specific well permits (those that are primarily intended for personal household use and not considered to threaten anyone else’s water rights) to also collect rain water. Apparently this bill was passed for two reasons; first, people were effectively watering their yards and gardens with treated water which costs a bit and by using rain water, they would lessen the strain on municipal water systems in rural areas; and second, because the University of Colorado did a study and demonstrated that 97% of rain water never makes it into the water table anyway due to evaporation and use by plants of run-off, so by permitting people to catch rain water, they aren’t actually losing anything anyway. The bill is fairly restrictive (can’t be done without the specific well permit — which means if you’re in the city, you almost certainly can’t do it), but at least it’s a start. There is a similar bill now making it through Utah’s state legislature as well. The Denver post commented that rain water run off is actually a problem for most urban places and catching rainwater in outlying areas would probably significantly reduce flooding and other problems associated with rain storms in the west. So it looks like this is changing in the right direction for both Colorado and Utah after a century or more of silliness.

          • Colorado has been pretty sily about the whole rainwater catchment thing. Alot of people do it anyway. We are a water restricted state and in a drought right now. Much of the state is dependant on water runoff and irrigation.

        • Schametti,
          The ban on collection of rainwater in Colorado is kind of funny, when you see that Maryland is about to tax people who don’t catch it. Seems that non-permeable surfaces like roofs and driveways allow the water to run into the storm drains, which eventually ends up in the bay, and there are new EPA regulations setting runoff water purity standards, so the state wants to pass on the costs to those evil folks who don’t catch their water. I guess the state will use satellite imagery to determine how much surface each property owner will be taxed on. Seems you can’t win anywhere you live.

          • Schametti says:

            So far, I think my state hasn’t lost it’s mind with water. At least not yet.

          • JeffintheWest says:

            Seems like that old saw “different strokes for different folks” really applies doesn’t it. Colorado and Utah’s laws go back to the bad old days when it was all about ranching and range wars were routinely fought over water sources. The upshot was that ranching interests claimed all the water in the state, including run-off, on the grounds that it flowed through areas where they had exclusive water rights, and therefore belonged to them. Those dam sheepfarmers and sodbusters were therefore STEALING from the ranchers if they collected rain water. Times change, but obscure laws often take a very long time to reflect the change.

    • Good for you! CA has gone so far into lunacy that it’ll take the end-all earthquake to put it to rest.

      I’m in loony NJ and it’d be in CA, NY, MA total-loon territory if our gov wasn’t stopping some of the worst ideas the loons are putting forward.

      Unfortunately, now the dh is getting sicker (pre-cancer) and doesn’t want to hear about getting out of here.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        I’m really sorry to hear about your dh. I just went through kidney cancer and can tell you that I got sort of wrapped around myself too — sort of focused on it, you might say. I guess that’s not unreasonable behavior, but I’m sure it must be disconcerting to some degree to your loved ones.

        • Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, I see things gettin’ real bad, real fast. If truly cancer, and it probably is, it’s inoperable as too close to the heart. And, to top it off, yesterday I lost my job.

          • Mari, sorry about the dh and job. I will be sending prayers your way. It is a contoversial subject, but have you looked into alternative cancer treatments?

            • Thank you, TG. I’ve threatened to send him to an Ayurvedic “farm.” Letting him mull that over a bit. It’s been suggested going to a high-protein / low-carb diet. I need to read up again on some herbals. He’s got another PET scan scheduled late next week.

          • Millie in KY says:

            Mari, I am so sorry. I will add DH to the prayer list. And sorry about the job, too. Poor thing, please take care of you, too……that is so important. Bless your heart, what a terrible group of things to have happened to you both….

            • Thank you, Millie. Yes, we sure do need prayers. The medical situation has been brewing for a couple of years, and now it’s gotten more serious. Unfortunately, his attitude is way fatalistic. While I at least half-suspected my position was going to go away at some point, it sure picked a bad time to happen so soon.

              Since it’s late in the week, I’m going to post over the weekend re options for myself for down the road.

          • JeffintheWest says:

            Oh jeez. I’m really sorry to hear that. I’ve noticed that quite often troubles come in threes — the same time I was getting my kidney removed, our beloved cat died of cancer in our arms, and my hours at work were seriously cut for several months in and around that time — not really comparable with your situation, I know, but I sure do empathize with you. I just wish there was something tangible I could do to help you. Failing that, I’ll do what I can, and pray for you with all my heart.

            • Thanks, Jeff. Yup, trouble seems to usually come in multiples. Sorry to hear you got smacked with it.

              Appreciate your prayers! Thank you.

    • There are ways to get a Berkey in CA. Up in my neck of the woods, in Roseville, CA there http://www.disasterstuff.com/. You just have to verify it’s for your pets.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        Pitiful that I have to lie in order to do anything in this state, though…. And, I need a permit to plant a hedge on my own property, even if it in no way COULD interfere with a driver’s view around a corner. That just kills me….

        • Yeah, you’re right – shameful to lie. CA gov’t and the feds would never lie to us – what kind of person am I to suggest something so shameful and deceiptful?

          • JeffintheWest says:

            Oh, my comment wasn’t directed at YOU. Good Lord, you’re one of the few people still living in this state (apparently) that has any common sense at all! I just find a situation in which the government forces me to lie about something I want to do with my own life in order to do it, to be completely unacceptable! it’s the Bloombergs and Feinsteins of the world that make this sort of thing happen. If they’d just let us be, we could just go on enjoying our freedoms and our rights in blissful ignorance, but no, it’s all about “social engineering” to change things for their vision of the better. Too bad their vision isn’t mine.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        I might be passing through your neck of the woods pretty soon — we’ve just about given up on Lake County, and now are thinking about heading north to check out Shasta or Trinity counties before finally giving up and heading to Colorado. Though my vote remains for Colorado. My SO is a stubborn woman though, and I do have to admit California is much better for growing things than large parts of Colorado are!

        • JeffintheWest,
          If you’re heading to CO, make sure you check which of your firearms you will have to leave behind. I have friends out there and it seems that the folks from CA are moving there and making ut more like CA every day.

          • JeffintheWest says:

            Yeah, we’ve already had that discussion, but the good news is that CA is so screwed up that CO will STILL be a breath of freedom. Plus, the jury is still out on the gun grabber laws, since 16 Colorado County Sheriffs are suing the state over the constitutionality of the law on pretty much the same grounds that caused the D.C. laws to be overturned.

  23. Sw't Tater says:

    Slow week here as well, Little money spent, but progress anyway!
    OUtside stuff: Got the garden broken, and it came a two- three inch rain, so that was good and bad. Still requires discing and cultivation but getting there. window shopped and found some tomatoes and herbs to buy, in varieties I desired.
    Health stuff: Did a checklist of required items for flu- I actually had some of every item, , but think more supplies will be needed.. for expanded family contacts who are unable to prepare.. Got more liquid to make tincture. Helped family member with selections for increaing/ maintaining health.
    Already, ticks are horrible here, in some outside activities both DH and I had over 12 bites each, each of us had a bad one on the head, the others were only there briefly, we treated those with Oil of oregano and it has helped the irritation and the itching. DH had a fever when he went for normal check, so antibiotics for him. Obtained some building supplies for possible building project.(long term)
    Food: Usual rotations, more dehydration of veggies obtained on sales and at little cost.Found a few gallon and two gaal. buckets for cannister and storage. Picked some bamboo shoots to prepare, and try. after reading info.Will wash and drain several times, for the larger ones, and am thinking of pickling them. (Initial). Preparation 20 mixed size peppers for canning.prepared fruit for syrup and jelly.
    Glad they have caught..the “suspects”..noticed how careful they were to ignore the views of those…and applauded the homeowner who was observant.Noticed the LE downplaying his role and giving credit to the heat seeking tech of the heli’s. Working on plans to move supplies out of hot temps /high humidity.
    Take care, continue to do the things that are necessary to prepare, for what ever is coming your way. If we are prepared for our worst idea of what we will face, then maybe we will survive what our disaster is, whenever it comes.
    ..Wondered how many people were not prepared to be confined to the house in Boston , but needed some things like Milk and bread/
    Marvelled that the news thought they had to explain what “shelter in place’ meant.

    • Many apartments, i.e. university dorms and efficiency apartments, don’t allow cooking. Many city dwellers don’t have more than a small fridge to begin with as they dine out. Hope a few folks there and in the rest of the country paid attention. The S occasionally does Hit The Fan, and i’m guessing more incidents will be forthcoming.

  24. Mother Earth says:

    Hi wolf pack! Thanks to MD and Bam Bam for the flu post. My next shopping run will include some masks and I’m going to start a gum tree tincture.

    Did a Costco run today. Bought more peanut butter (wow $10 now), cereal, choc chips, sugar, coconut oil, dried fruit, cheeses and more! Then hit the regular store for replenishment stuff.

    Weather is still too crappy to start the garden and I’m having fits waiting. Although if it means we won’t have a drought like last year, I’ll try to be patient. Fruit trees are starting to bloom so I hope we don’t get a sudden freeze. Need to consider planting some fruit trees at the farm property, with the news this week, I’m feeling the need to run to the hills!

  25. Wow… it’s time for this already.

    I got my grain field and part of my garden planted. I already have oats popping their little heads thru the soil. Kinda satisfying really.

    Also got the recipe for my homemade apple cinnamon oatmeal where I’m mostly satisfied with it. I may tweek it a little here and there… but it’s pretty good now.

    Been adding a lot of information to my binders. Money has been tight lately so I haven’t really purchased much. Just window shopped and added several things to my amazon wish list.

  26. Kelekona says:

    I dug at my garden to claim about a third of the existing bed and bought another tool to deal with it… most of the stuff for the garden and some misc. tools came with the house. Tip: yard waste is an adequate mulch to kill existing plants in an area if you’re going to garden next year. Well, I had pulled some 2-foot tall grass into the garden last fall, the unpowered mower was a bit inadequate for the whole yard.

    I told hubby I was being paranoid about the electric stove when I ordered the cooker lantern. He pointed out that the turkey fryer he uses to brew beer would also work for many cooking and water-boiling needs. Once I find some lamp oil, I’d be able to read and heat a pot of tea.

    I also ordered a historical housekeeping book. I read how to turn newspaper into fire bricks and already have a cookie press. (I can use the cookie plates in the jerky gun.) I found at store that has nice-looking pvc bows for much less than $40 and will get one once the credit card cools off. I found an arrow-fletching article that covers how to get straight shafts from natural sources. (I need to start collecting goose and gull feathers again. They also make nice bouquets for decorating.) http://www.howtomakearrows.com/how-to-make-an-arrow/how-to-make-arrows-straightening-the-shaft

    And I found a way to save money on non-prepper indulgences. I found some golf-ball display boxes when cleaning and they’re as good as printer box displays if I turn them upside-down. Three R’s isn’t just for environmental types.

  27. Not much here. Got a few more things for the first aid kit, some more water and that about covers the stuff I picked up. But I have been doing some research into my herbs. Yay, I found out that one of my favorites (I mostly use it for a relaxing herb) has some serious anti viral properties to it. Unfortunately, it is a slow grower in the first year, so I am really hoping it takes off this year. The essential oil of this plant is one of the pricier ones as it takes 5 tons of plant material to make 16 ounces of essential oil. If you ever wonder why the cost of some essential oils are so high, look into how much plant materialnit takes to make it.
    Anywho, I am going to be taking Bam Bam up on her offer of help for the research. We all know how good she is at it.
    We had the car run out of gas on us. It was crazy because our gas gage said we had plenty, our low gas light never came on, and we have one of those things that tell you you have x amount of miles until empty, and even that was off. We were seriously an intersection away from stopping at a gas station (just because when you drive a vehicle for a while you know it and I knew that we had to be low on gas) when it puttered out and died on us. Luckily we had a tow truck a couple cars behind us. He was on county time so it could have seriously cost us for him to hook us up and take us a few feet, but he only charged us $20.
    Other then that, just more puttering in the garden. Puling weeds, cutting herbs down that are trying to bolt. Managed to get a few cuttings off of my cinnamon basil and my peppermint. Lost a strawberry plant, found some wild ones and some wild green onions. Fighting snails and stink bugs. And so far no luck with getting the fire ants gone. I put some borax down, but it rained the next day. So will try again. Went on a hunt for some dandelions, nettles, and whatever else I could find in walking distance to my neighborhood. Nothing, seriously, the people around here have a strong aversion to weeds. I think the next time we are at the park I am going to see what I can find seeding and collect some seeds so I can be the annoying neighbor who grows weeds.
    I think that about sums it up for me this week.

    • Oh, I also made up some tinctures. So far I did the elderberry with cinnamon and clove and one for headaches. I havent tried it before, but am wondering if it will work faster than my migraine blend of tea.
      I also mixed up some ‘master tonic’ let me tell you, I tried a bit of it and wow! It is strong stuff. But it will clear you out, once you can breathe again.

      • worrisome says:

        TG one of my daughters has terrible migraines…….debilitating level, would you mind sharing your tea blend for that?

        • Worriesome, Is it possible that your daughter has an intolerance to gluten? I used to have terrible debilitating migraines several times a month until I was diagnosed with Celiac. I haven’t had a bad one since I went gluten free. My son had the same experience. Worth considering.

          • worrisome says:

            Patti, she has been checked for that. Her intolerances have to do with dairy products and the migraines have continued. But thanks for bringing it up. Someone else may not have thought of it. :)

            • Worriesome – my daughter was checked for gluten intolerance and the test showed nothing. The way we learned that she is gluten intolerant is by leaving it out of her diet. My daughter’s headaches are better. I’m also gluten intolerant and found out by leaving it out of my diet. It makes me gassy and my entire family appreciates when I don’t eat bread, pasta or anything else with gluten. The DH stopped eating it and learned that it causes him to have acid reflux.

              All that said, the tests are not 100% accurate and the best way to determine it for yourself is to quit eating it, see how you feel, add it back into your diet, then see if it makes a difference.

              • A couple of points Omeprazole citrate (Prilosec) can cause magnesium deficiency. There are generic Omeprazole magnesium (Nexium) that can help with that ((I am not a doctor so check with one that doesn’t drink big pharma koolaid)) Gas and gluten free, a common ingredient in GF foods is Xanthan gum, this can cause gas if used in sufficient quantity to replace gluten in breads and pastries. I find that if Iif. a use Guar gum and Xanthan gum ½ & ½ where recipes call for Xanthan it is less gaseous

              • Encourager says:

                The problem of gluten intolerance has exploded in the last 20 years. In the late 1960’s and 1970’s, wheat was altered and the genetic makeup of the wheat was changed. Now because of the additional genes in our modern wheat, we have so much gluten intolerance. Try to find products made with emmer wheat or Einkorn wheat. I found products made from Einkorn wheat here and lots of info about it. You might want to try some and see whether or not it bothers you.

                http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/einkorn-ancient-grains.htm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=FLREIN&gclid=CO365ojJ37YCFUNqMgodQD8AfQ

        • Worrisome,
          I do agree with patti to check into a food intorlerance or a magnesium deficiancy. My tea blend is peppermint, chamomile and lavender. Boil the water put about a tablespoon in with 8 oz of water. Cover it and let it steep for about 10 minutes. You want it more of a decoction than tea. It does not work right away, more in stages. The first thing it gets rid of is the roling stomach, then slowly the sensitivity to light. Depending on the severity of the migraine and how long you wait to drink the tea depends on how long it takes to work and if you need a second cup. Also you can get some lavender and peppermint essential oil and use that on the temples (properly diluted). Play around with the amounts some. For me more peppermint helps, but I have a friend who I need to add more lavender to her blend. The chamomile is more a sedative, so helps relax you when your body is tightening up from the pain.
          Now I do try and lay down for a good 20 minutes or so in a dark and quiet room when I get laid low. I have noticed the tea doesnt work as well if I am still up and trying to run.

          • Schametti says:

            Is that a tablspoon of each of the oils? Or a total of a tablspoon for all three? :) I’m making a journal of natural healing remedies, and would love to add a headache tea recipe to it. Thanks, TG.

            • Schametti, the tea is with herbs not essential oils. Mix up your herbs and then a tablespoon of the mix for the tea.
              The essential oils I mentioned were to be blended with a carrier oil and then applied to the temples, and if wanted you could massage them into the shoulders and neck.
              Some essential oils are safe for ingestion, but some of them are highly toxic. And when you do ingest essential oils it is by the drop. My recommendation is to never ingest essential oils unless under the care of someone who knows what they are doing.

              • Schametti says:

                Ooh I see. So I need to buy oils AND dry herbs. I’m such a newbie at this stuff, I’ll have to figure out where to buy dried herbs. Do they come as powder then?

                • worrisome says:

                  Schametti, try Mountain Rose Herbs website, they have essential oils and many organically grown herbals of all kinds. If you want to get powdered forms of some items you can, they also have capsules there that you can fill with what you want.

                • Schametti, I like playing with oils and herbs, but if I had to choose one or the other, I would go with herbs since they are renewable. For some oils it takes a lot of plant material to produce a small amount of oil.
                  You can get powdered herbs, but generally they cost a dollar more, and really cant be utalized for tea. I would get bulk herbs or grow your own. Most of your herbs are extremely easy to grow, can be brought indoors in the winter if you keep them in pots, will reseed, and you can generally get starts off them by just trimming them and put the cuttings in water for a week or so.
                  Even though I would pick herbs over oils, there is a short list of oils I keep on hand at all times, lavender and peppermint are both on that list.
                  Also, regarding oils, there was an oil tested from 5 major brands and they all tested pure and “highh quality” surprisingly aura cacia (the stuff you find at the grocery store) was on that list. So dont get duped into buying oils for double the amount (one company swears they have the ‘purest oils’ so for 15 ml of lavender oil they charge $30, another company that can back up their claim of pure oils only charges @ $10 depending on the type of lavendrr), at the same time if a company is charging way less then others there is a strong chance it is adultered.
                  One of the companies I buy from, as I like their quality and customer service, is mountain rose herbs. You can get bulk herbs and spices, oils, and some seeds thru them. I also like that they are not a multy level marketing company, they are a ‘local’ business (my sil teases me all the time because she lives right down the street from them), and they are environmentaly friendly.
                  I hope this helps some.

                  • Schametti says:

                    I’m not sure they’d be easy to grow.. for me, lol. I’ve just freshly killed a nice cilantro plant, that I had hoped to eventually plant outside when it was warm enough, but it never made it. She wilted and died in a couple weeks. So if I can’t keep cilantro alive, I don’t know if I’d hold out hope of keeping much else alive inside through the winter, or pssh, heck, who knows if I’ll even be able to keep stuff live this summer OUT side.

                    I’ve spent a ton of time and money on plants and dirt the last month or two, and I think I’m doing pretty poorly. I had a couple dozen tomatoe and cherry tomato plants on my k itchen table the last three months. Just took them outside today to start hardening them off. Well I didn’t THINK it was windy, but I guess it was, because an hour and a half later I went to get them, and all their stems were broke. I was sooooo disappointed. I’ve been babying them for months, and one hour outside, and now they’re toast. *Shakes Head* It’s gonna be a long summer……

                    • Schametti, dont give up on those tomato plants yet. I never give ip on a plant until the roots are dead, it is amazing what can make a comeback.
                      I will have some peppermint cuttings ready here in about a week or so. If you want I can send some to you. Pretty much all you have to do is put it in a sunny location and remember to water it. Peppermint is a pretty resilient plant.

                    • Oh, have you thought about buying dirt by the truckload instead of bags. A couple years ago I bought a load of dirt (I dont remember how they said it but I think cubic yard) and it cost me $27. It cost a lot less then buying the individual bags from the store.
                      Also, check freecycle if you have a locsl one. Mine has plant cuttings often. You dont always get exactly what you want but you can get some interesting stuff that way.

                    • Schametti says:

                      I hear that mint can take over your whole life if you don’t watch it, haha. Maybe that is the plant for me. I won’t be able to keep anything alive but mint. Hmm.. can a woman live off mint alone? LOL. I would love some peppermint cuttings, buuuut.. I don’t know how we go about doing something like that here.

                      I defiiiiinitely agree about the truck load of dirt. We didn’t do that, and I regret it. I’m sure it’s SO much cheaper than they way we did it. Total, we have bought about thirty 64 quart bags, and it added up real fast. I didn’t get it by the truck load, cause I don’t have a truck. But next year, I might have to ask a buddy to haul me back some for a pizza and a beer or something, lol…

                    • Schametti, if you would like you could email your addy, or that of a trusted friend, po box, ect to MD and have him forward it to me and in a week or so when the cuttings are ready I could send it to you. I would of course shred your address after I mail it off and forget I ever had it.

                    • Schametti says:

                      TG, I just sent MD my address to forward to you, so hopefully he can do that soon. Thank You so much! I hope that I’ll be able to return the favor some time!! (When I get a little better at this stuff, lol).

                    • Schametti, got it. As soon as it roots I will send them out.

                    • JeffintheWest says:

                      Schametti — you can literally buy a dump truck load of dirt. They load the truck and it drives out to your place and dumps it more or less where you want it. I think that’s what he meant.

          • worrisome says:

            I am going to look into that magnesium idea. thanks. I emailed the tea idea off to her last night. She said she would try it.

            • Worrisome, from what I have been reading a magnesium deficiency can be the cause of a lot of issues. I hope the tea works for your daughter. Once my tincture is finished and I test it out I will post results and recipe.

            • Audrey Druse says:

              Worrisome – Just a quick note to let you all know another side effect of not having enough magnesium. Body, mostly muscle, pain including chest pain. Went to the hospital with chest pains (I have 10 stints so I am not a first timer at this) and had a new doc. (Mine was in Peru doing charity work)… The new doc ran some tests for, I guess, electrolytes. I came back with very low magnesium. Two bags(IV) later I felt so much better it was unreal. Two days later another test and they would not let me go home without another bag. I went back for another test 5 days later and they put me on 2- 400mg Mag-Oxide (not sure how it is spelled) twice a day. 5 days later after another test they added 2 more pills at lunch. I am now taking 6 pills a day and it looks like I will have to continue this for the foreseeable future. (another prep item thankfully it is otc) The upside of all this is that I am mostly pain free after I don’t know how many years of misery.
              If you have a lot of pain issues muscle and joint pain and weakness have your magnesium checked. From the research I have done since all this happened, I found out that to much can be dangerous, so have it checked before overdosing. By-the-way my regular Doc could not believe it… he said magnesium is in so many foods that you should get enough just eating a normal diet. But the results don’t lie and he now agrees it is what I needed. I think “they” have so polluted and modified our food supply that all “normal” nutrients are either deleted or diluted to the point of danger for many. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for all the wonderful information everyone puts into this blog. I love it.

              AIA

              • Encourager says:

                Wow, Audrey Druse! I think I will go back on my Magnesium Citrate. A doctor put me on it not because I was constipated but because I had trouble just ‘going’. Made a world of difference. Looking back, I realize my many muscle aches were much better. I have been having a couple very sore muscles, one in my forearm, one in the back of my left leg. I have not done anything to strain these muscles. I forgot about the magnesium. Thank you! Taking some tonight!!

              • Sundancing says:

                SAME experience. It also helps with anxiety. I went to the ER twice in the last 5 years with chest pain, shortness of breath, etc. Diagnosis? Anxiety and low magnesium levels. I’ve been taking (on doctor’s advice) 200-300 mg/day (at night), and it’s working wonders. Also helps me fall asleep at night (take it an hour before you wish to fall asleep). :)

            • worrisome says:

              All this info is awesome! Thanks ladies~! Ya know I had a cardiac appointment recently and was complaining about muscle cramps and the dr. mentioned trying magnesium 2x per day. I didn’t do it, but now I am and going to mention it to all the kids……………The info you get here on this site, may be the item that really changes something! Again, thanks!

    • Sw't Tater says:

      on the car, check the fuse panel…somewhere I read try yeast for ants, its supposed to explode inside them, your neighbors probably had a yard service kill their weeds..not knowing many are edible.

      • Sw’t Tater, thanks I will check the fuses, here is to hoping it is that simple. Most of my neighbors are the lawn care services, lol. So they probably have sprayed or something. So yeah, I will be the one to reintroduce weeds to the neighborhood.

    • Same thing happened to me just today. I knew I was really low but had expected there was enough to get me another 10 miles or so. Fortunately, I have towing/road side assistance so called my insurance company and they called tow company. Funny thing was my cousin’s husband works for the tow company called and my cousin was with me at the time. Still it cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $60 – billed to insurance so won’t cost me directly but still probably the most expensive gas I’ll ever put in my car.

      Be very careful though of running out of gas. My cousin’s husband was concerned that I might have damaged the fuel pump (I didn’t) – but nothing about the newer cars is cheap to fix. Will be working harder to keep the car at the magic half full stage.

      • Sarahy, yeah, my fuel pump went out on me last year. Stranded me on the side of the freeway with my kids and over 100 degrees outside. That was not fun at all, but thank goodness I keep a case or 2 of water in my car at all times.
        My mechanic said that since my fuel pump and all the filters were changed recently and this is the only time we have run out of gas, and we rarely let it get under 1/4 tank, that the chance of us damging the fule pump was slim.

  28. SW, My amazon wish list is a mile long, lol!

  29. peanut_gallery says:

    Didn’t get much done this week. Just got one cord of wood stacked for next year. Starting picking up all the downed branches and sticks from this winter to use as kindling next year.

  30. Grumpy Vermonter says:

    Not much spent of preps this week; the dryer died and had to go out today and get a new one on sale, as the used ones I looked at, the folks wanted almost as much as the new one and the new one means they deliver, install and take the old one away. We figure if we are meant to move then we will put the price of this into the cost of our place. Anyway, that pinched the pocketbook a bit! Hubbs and I attended a great lecture at a college called Losing Our Sons, watched the fellow’s movie called the same and the question period afterwards was really good. Because of a woman mentioning something about Common Core, I went up to her afterwards and told her she was the only local person I’d ever heard mention it and we talked a bit. I’ve been kind of thinking I’d like to find some folks of like mind, but had kind of given up in finding anything like that locally. I will be attending their Bible study tomorrow and the service afterwards tomorrow and am looking forward to it. But I still feel that it’s time to leave Vermont, as I can feel the dark closing in on this state. Sad, but true. Anyway, Hubbs put some job inquiries out to a company and no reply, but that’s not unusual these days. I’m gonna prod him to keep bugging them. We’ll see…. please pray for us to find or discover where it is we’re supposed to be? Thank you!
    I got some extras at the grocery store again, as usual. I’m obsessed about toilet paper. How embarrassing, but true. I think of trying to be clean using a catalog, stress out and get a hot flash! I know, I know I have to get over it, as it will probably get to that if the SHTF, but meanwhile, that’s a biggie I get extras of. Soap is another one- I have bookmarked all the recipes for soaps, and am looking forward to trying them, but here we don’t have the room for storing the supplies and I have to watch our weight in this trailer. Along with the dryer dying, our wood shed that came with the place has gone from mossy to crumbling and with a river running under it. So a shed is also on the list this year. Selling some stuff on ebay to go towards that, lots more to go.
    Went to get our car inspected and tires switched over to summer tires yesterday and was talking with the guy a bit and he ended up talking the whole time about what’s going on: in the schools, the government, guns, taxes the whole bit! I found out he knew a kid who had been part of the group going door-to-door confiscating guns during Katrina, and how the kid was going to re-up for service lately, but was asked if he was interested in doing something like civilian control during “civil unrest” and he handed in his papers and said “I’m outta here”. So, it’s real, which is scary.
    More things popping up to life in my winter sown containers, amazing that some of you are seeing flowers on the tomato plants already! We’ve had some weather up to 70 so far, but mostly still in the 40’s. That’s it for us this week, stay safe and God bless!

    • Rider of Rohan says:

      GV, one of my favorite Revolutionary War stories in US History class was the capture of Ft. Ticonderoga by Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys. I’m thinking they would be turning over in their graves if they saw what was going on in Vermont today. Or the rest of these United States for that matter. We badly need some Ethan Allen’s today.

  31. Encourager says:

    I just finished bagging up 20# of organic Arborio rice in 4 cup bags with my Food Saver. Got 11 bags. And 15# of French Vanilla Almond granola. I did not take ALL the air out of the granola, I wanted some bigger chunks, not dust. I will store the granola in the freezer. I also will freeze the rice for a week to kill all bugs/eggs before putting in a bucket for storage.

    Got estimates on taking our Hickory tree down this week. The man with the saw mill came by and got all excited; said we should get quite a bit of lumber out of the tree plus over 10 boles that he could see. Not to mention probably 6 years of wood for the wood stove. Still saddened because we have to take it down but feeling a bit better.

    Did you know that you can take Green Coffee Bean extract (200-400mg) for lowering your blood glucose? I am trying to find a source. Does anyone in the Pack use this?

    • worrisome says:

      Encourager? Have you tried the granola in quart jars? I made such a mess trying to put it in bags I gave up (:

      • Encourager says:

        I don’t have any luck using the Food Saver on quart jars. I don’t know what I do wrong but the seal never takes, it is gone in a few days. You are right, storing in bags is a pain.

        • Encourager,
          I haven’t been able to get my regular size lids to seal. But the wide mouth do fine. I wonder whats up? I tried the double lid trick. If you put enough o2 obsorbers in the jar they will seal, but granola has so many air spaces it would take alot. Not really worth it.

          • Mama J:

            I’d check the sealer for your regular lids. It may be dirty or bad. We had an issue with 1/2 pint jars but it turned out to be “operator error”.

          • I had the same problem the wide sealed fine but the reg would come off when I took the sealer off. Some one o here I think suggested that after sealing disconnect the hose from the vac unit and then remove the jar sealer. That seems to have taken car of the problem. I also use new lids on the reg but old used lids seem to seal just fine on the wide mouth jars. I prefer the wide mouth jar just because they are easier to fill. I only buy wide mouth when I buy new but will buy reg mouth jars if they are a good deal at garage sales etc.

          • Warm the lids in hot water first, dry them quickly then seal the jars. Push the sealer down while the food saver is running as well as the hose connecting. I always put a ring on after the sealing is done just to make sure. That gooey stuff is there for a reason and sometimes it needs to be warmed a bit to seal. Also make sure the rim is clean and nick free just as if you are canning.

            • Encourager says:

              Thanks, Shai! I will try those ideas. I often thought I should be heating the lids like you do for canning but then thought, hmmm…don’t want any moisture in the jar. I always check the jars for nicks; if any, out they go because I don’t want to accidentally use one for canning. I know some people save them for storage but I would rather toss them so no mistakes are made.

              • Kelekona says:

                Encourager, there are ways to make the jars look frosted. Special paint, that trick with the Elmer’s, anything to make the bad jars obvious.

    • WYO Ryder says:

      Hi Encourager :-)

      Do you put the rice in food saver bags inside of a mylar bag, then seal the bucket or inside the bucket (sans mylar?)

      I tried taking the green coffee bean extract as an aid to kick up my metabolism but realized no differences other than I lost weight from eating better and exercising more.

      • Encourager says:

        Ryder, I use the Food Saver bags and after a rotation through the freezer for a week (then bring to room temperature for a few days) I then put them into these rectangular buckets I get free at Sam’s Club from the bakery. All the quart bags stack nicely in there because I make sure they are flattened as they get the air sucked out of them. The buckets aren’t sealed other than the top popped on. So far it has been working.

        Thanks for the head’s up on the GCB extract. I want to lower my blood glucose levels without going on Rx meds. It keeps creeping up.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      I haven’t tried the green coffee bean…Try swansons or puritan’s pride, I am sure I saw it on one of those sites.
      Bitter Melon is supposed to rebuild the isles of langerhans …since I am/have been hypoglycemic for more than 30 yrs- I am taking it 10 days per month..To maintain my insulin production, since the result of too much production “wears out the pancreas”. I also take American Ginseng, 400mg , and cinnamon caps 1,000mg on a similar schedule.
      Cinnamon Caps taken daily for 6 weeks have proven effective up to 4 weeks later. gymnea sylvestre 400-600mg 3x daily was recommended by same Dr. I gotta get that book back, I have loaned it out.It also recommended chromimum,and two others I can’t remember right now.

    • Schametti says:

      I froze my rice for four and a half days, each fifty pound bag.. I hope that was long enough to kill anything with potential to hatch or eat my food before I do, lol…. I was in such a hurry to get it room temperatured, cause I THOUGHT I would get it in the buckets right away. Hah. I didn’t know then.. that I would let it intimidate me for three months, lol. So hopefully four days is good enough??

  32. Kelekona says:

    There is something I’m curious about… Who has frontier ancestors? Last time my family conquered wilderness was in the early 1800’s, but the current Wolfpack seems like they would have liked pre-dustbowl Oklahoma.

    • riverrider says:

      the only ancestors i have in oklahoma didn’t go there of their own free will.

      • worrisome says:

        I have some of those too, that came out of the Carolinas. And I have some Irish ones that did the Oklahoma land rush. After they all ended up in Oklahoma, the Irish ones and some of the Cherokees met and married……….I think it did the DNA some good :) although I imagine there was plenty of consternation at the time :)

      • Kelekona says:

        Sorry, Riverrider, a kind of fallacy there.

        When I think Okkie – type… These were people who didn’t want government in their lives, until the dust bowl got so bad that they wanted government support in planting stabilizing crops on abandoned land that still had a legal owner.

        When I think prepper, I also think WASP. If anyone else is having prepper behavior, it’s “this is what normal people do when they have some of the brains that you can’t get from reading books and passing educational quizzes.”

      • Mine didn’t either. They were rounded up at gun point (curtesy of the man they fought for – then he betrayed them) and marched them across the country some without the benefit of shoes or blankets. But hey, I trust the government not to do anything to harm me and mine – NOT! See, things don’t necessarily change – there has always been betrayal by our beloved government.

    • worrisome says:

      My family history starts in 1635…….

    • JeffintheWest says:

      My family came to America when New York was still called New Amsterdam. After they got run out of there, they migrated westerly until they wound up in Ohio (which was a howling wilderness then). A few of them pushed on out west in the mid-1800’s but most of them managed to get themselves killed in the Civil War and the remaining one went back to Ohio and raised his kids (one of whom served in World War I) and grandkids (one of whom served in World War II — my dad). We’ve got some Cherokee and French blood in there too, but no one ever lived west of the Mississippi that I know of other than my folks’ generation, so I’m guessing that came in via Canada (though my paternal Grandfather never told me the right of it). My Mom’s family came over in the mid-1600’s to New Berne (they were from Switzerland) and slowly pushed west and then north until they wound up in Ohio too — not so much a wilderness anymore, but my Grandfather owned his own farm there and saved most of the family from starvation during the Depression on 20 acres of farm. Which tells you a lot about why we all want some place where we can grow our own food! I think the Wolfpack is more about being themselves, doing for themselves, and not being told what to do every minute of every day by creatures like Bloomburg or Feinstein. We just want to live free and take care of our families.

      • Sw't Tater says:

        just before the battle of Shiloh, one of my great great uncles died in a barn near there, His brothers got word, near Sevierville,they came down to get his body. Saw the “black land dirt”. went back told his wife as soon as the war was over they were moving. they did.. to west tn. after those children were teens, The Mama died,(that is my part of our family). Then the Pa remarried,..children and years later the second family moved to Arkansas, cleared land, each son in his own area, proved it up, Eventually having a massive farm, and canning operation named ALLEN’s.. So if any of you folks are reading this blog, just know that is how you came, and where the old man came from.

    • My family was one of the first ones in southeastern OK. I still have lots of family there. Some were Irish. I am also a direct descendent of one of the first Texas Rangers! I just found this out not too long ago. :) I thought that was kinda of cool.

      • Yeah, my ancestors were some of the Tennessee “gone to Texas” bunch and have been traced back to the Revolutionary war. 6th generation Texan.

      • I had a Texas Ranger family member too – Ones Ward (he was the oldest child – what a name, huh?)

    • k. fields says:

      My family seems to have always been in east Tennessee – there was never talk of anyone coming from anywhere or going to anywhere.
      Someone must have come from Europe at some point in the past, but how long ago that was remains a mystery.

    • Schametti says:

      I have no idea who I am or where my people come from. I ask my family, no one knows, no one cares, lol. I always say I’m going to find out one day, but then I get too busy with life, or a million and one other projects. I wish I knew my family history though. I need to hire someone some day to find it all out, and write it all down for me, lol.

      • Amy,

        Go to http://www.familysearch.org and you can look for your ancestors. Follow the directions (or take a tutorial) and I bet in a couple of hours you will be able to get back 4 or 5 generations.

        Latter-Day Saints are counseled (almost on a weekly basis) to look for their ancestors. Do you have a LDS church near you? if you do you can go to their family history center (all are welcomed – some who volunteer at the center are not LDS) to get help. With all the records LDS volunteers are indexing, all Census records are available for the public to look at for free.

        I usually index 1 to 2 thousand names a month.

        • Kate,
          Good to see that you’ve posted this information. When I think of the LDS church, the two subjects that always come to mind immediately are Self Reliance (preparedness) and Genealogy. You folks as a whole are probably some of the top experts in these fields on the entire planet, and once again offer the information to everyone, which in my opinion is a laudable thing. I thank you all.

          • Ohio Prepper,

            Thank you for your kind comments!

            It is done for the love of our fellow man. We try very hard to ‘be Christ-like” in our everyday dealings with people.

        • Schametti says:

          I blame you, Kate for costing me twenty bucks, and for me losing the last seven hours, LOL. I tried out family search but it was just going sooooooooo slow, and kept giving me an error, every time I would try to bring up my family tree.. so I didn’t get very far.

          BUT, I decided to pay for a month of Ancestry.Com.. and somehow lost seven hours looking through census reports. I spent the day driving my family crazy getting all the names and info they could supply me with.. but apparently, I stink at geneology, because I kept finding people who SEEMED like my family, but my living family kept arguing with me that it wasn’t right, so I don’t think I accomplished much. :/ So now I’m just disappointed, lol. I have a whole month to waste searching I suppose.. but I’m sooo confused. I can’t figure out why it would let me make a whole family tree for myself that I wasn’t related to. I don’t get it. I wish those experts weren’t so expensive, cause I totally need to hire one for my tree(s). LOL.

          • Amy,

            Go to the nearest LDS Church and visit the Family History Center. They have experts that can help you for FREE!

            Some of the volunteers who work there are not LDS. It is open to everyone!!!!!!

            • Oh, I forgot to add – you can use Ancestry.com for free there. And it isn’t the same as what you get at the library – it’s a better, more robust version.

              • Encourager says:

                In Michigan, there is a state library in Lansing (the capitol). They have access to Ancestry plus other genealogy sites all for free. It costs you to copy out the info, that’s all. My dh and I spent hours there when I was researching my family and got stuck with not being able to find my great grandfather…I was able to search military records and found him. See if your state has a similar library.

          • Schametti,
            Be careful of those experts. There’s the old story of the guy who spent $1,000,000 digging up his family tree and $2,000,000 having it reburied, LOL.

            • Schametti says:

              Haha OP, that’s hilarious, lol. I think I know JUST what you mean though. My aunt and I were talking last night, because one of the women in my family tree on my mom’s side.. has a surname of Booth(e). My aunt was like, I don’t think we better look into it, what if we’re related to John Wilkes? I’m like.. Yeah! Cool! Let’s find out, haha. Not what she wanted to hear. Fortunately for her, I seem to fail completely at this geneology thing. BUT, I’ve only been at it a day, so we’ll see what I can find out, lol.

              Kate, I’ll have to see where the nearest LDS church is. I used to attend one when I was in highschool, because my two best friends, two boys I worked with, and one guy I had a crush on, all went to the SAME church, so that seemed like the best place I could think up to hang out, (even though it really ticked off my stepfather. *Rolls Eyes* Closed minds can never be opened. Anyway, I’ll look around and see if we have anything like that around here. :)

              • Encourager says:

                Yep, you very well may uncover some skeletons in the closet. I found out my great grandma (full blooded Iroquois) was actually my great great grandma as her daughter gave birth out-of-wedlock to my grandma (whom we all thought was grandma’s sister…). Oops… The S met the propellers when I brought that one up and it is still flying. Talk about ruffling feathers!

      • Ancestry.com makes it easy. I found photos of my granddaddy that I had never seen. Also got a message from someone on the site that tried to argue that he (granddaddy) was my cousin. Lol got that person straightened out. My mothers cousins SIL turned out to be a genealogist and that resulted in my sisters and I finding out that we are descended from our pioneer descendant on BOTH side of the family…thru different daughters, but was still a bit of a shock! Kina makes us royalty in the small town where he had his homestead…

        • Encourager says:

          When I first started looking into my mother’s family, it was hard. She NEVER talked about any of them. I found out they lived in Minnesota for many years (farmers). Then I traced my grandfather and found that someone else was doing his side of the family. I contacted them and was really blessed. They mailed me copies of pictures and info I never would have found, stuff that had been in an old trunk.

          When I showed all this stuff to my mother, at first she was pretty upset (don’t know why) but then it opened up her memories and I could not write fast enough. At the time she had dementia and told us she had been abused and beaten a lot, that is why she never talked about them. So sad!

          • Schametti says:

            So sad for your mom, Encourager.. :(
            Shai, Lucky! I wanna be royalty, haha.

            I made my Aunt, (who thinks she knows everything, haha, sometimes in a good way, I guess), ..log into my ancestry account, so she can help me look around. So far, maybe my family is just dead boring, LOL.. but I’ve only found a crap-load of census records that bored me to tears. So far.. she’s scaled back five generations, and traced us back to Canada.. (Borrrrring, no offense, Northerners, hehe), but I’m hoping to get out to somewhere interesting, and far away.

            Anyway, I was having a lot of trouble, because I have NO memories of three generations ago, and she does. I’m like, I found grandma’s grandma!! Her name was Mable, and she’s married, to Great Great Grandpa Ernst, and she’s all.. Uhm.. No, I KNEW Grandma’s Grandma, and her name was DeeDee, and her last name, married name, etc.. was so-n-so.. And I’m all like FINE, you look, I don’t know these people, haha.

            So we have a month on ancestry. Hopefully we can find something interesting. And hopefully my aunt will help me with my other lines of family that she’s not exactly blood-tied too.. :D

  33. Buaahahaha, This was in my email from our stupid Gov’na.

    Dear XXXX:
    Thank you for writing to share your thoughts and concerns on the gun legislation recently signed into law. We appreciate the time you took to contact us.
    On March 20, we signed into law three pieces of legislation that we believe will help curb gun violence:
    • HB 13-1229 requires criminal background checks at federally licensed firearms dealers (FFLs) for all gun sales and transfers regardless of how the guns are acquired, with reasonable exceptions such as transfers between family members. FFLs may charge a reasonable fee for running background checks for private sales.
    • HB 13-1228 requires the Colorado Bureau of Investigation to collect a fee for performing an instant background check prior to the transfer of a firearm.
    • HB 13-1224 makes illegal any magazine manufactured or purchased after July 1, 2013, that is capable of accepting, or is designed to be readily converted to accept, more that 15 rounds of ammunition, limits the capacity of shotguns, and allows the continued use of any existing firearm or magazine owned prior to July 1, 2013.

    We have directed the Colorado Department of Public Safety to consult with the Office of the Attorney General and others with respect to the interpretation of HB13-1224’s large-capacity magazine ban, and then to draft and issue, to law enforcement agencies in Colorado, technical guidance on how the law should be interpreted and enforced. This work should be done by July 1, 2013, the law’s effective date.

    These laws, coupled with our efforts to improve the state’s mental health service system, will help keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people and make our state a safer place. It is important to underscore that these laws do not ban the safe ownership and use of guns to eligible individuals, and thereby respects Second Amendment rights. By taking these important steps, Colorado has proved that we can use common sense ideas to make our communities safer and at the same time respect the Constitution.
    Once again, we thank you for your input, and for taking the time to contact our office.
    Sincerely,
    Office of Governor John W. Hickenlooper

    This is the stupidist law vomited onto paper. I wonder what his real agenda is?

    • riverrider says:

      he’s angling for a more permanent job in d.c., like joe manchin of wva got.

      • RR,
        Thats what I thought. I wonder why he believes he will get said job by creating the most useless gun law in the history of douchebaggery. LOL.
        It is so stupid, it made me laugh out loud.
        I can’t wait to see how they will enforce the magazine law.
        Officer: Ma’m, did you purchase these magazines before or after July1, 2013.
        Me: I have most of my receipts right here. However, my husband bought some from gun shows. Picked up a few from Craigslist. A garage sale.

        I wonder if they will try to make us get a date sticker of authentication to prove when we bought it. Sounds like Hickenlooper just wrote a check his ass can’t cash.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      I hate people who respond to letters telling them NOT to do something by telling you (in effect) “thanks for you input — we ignored it completely.”

      Fortunately, 16 Colorado County Sheriffs have apparently taken him to court for violating the Second Amendment with arbitrary restrictions on weapons that do not serve any valid purpose and will not accomplish the intended effect. So this fight ain’t over yet, regardless of what hickendoofus thinks.

      • JeffintheWest,
        True. I don’t think it will stick. The letter was a joke. I really liked how the letter said “we” and “The Office of”. Not Hickendoofer himself.

        • JeffintheWest says:

          Well, I’ll be praying for some common sense to reassert itself somewhere along the way….

          • hvaczach says:

            I wouldn’t hold my breath, it has always been easier to stamp out liberty, and it rarly ever goes back. That being said reactionary lieralism is the quickest path to a change by the voters. Now that the pot heads got legal weed maybe they will vote on something that really matters.

  34. Schametti says:

    :) Hey Pack! Happy Week! (Well, except for bombings, the death of our freedom, and the turning point in the future of our country).

    I watched a lot of prep-worthy TV this week. Atlas Shrugged, Atlas Shrugged Part Two, The Red Damn Remake, and Obama’s America 2016. Love him or hate him.. you don’t even know him. I think ALL of this is coming, and it kind of made me a little paranoid this week.

    Glenn Beck is all worked up this week, saying that, (I can’t tell yet.. that either The American Government KNEW about, or was IN ON The Boston Bombing). I know some people love Beck, and some people hate him.. but I adore him, and more importantly, I TRUST him, and I hope he makes it to Monday, so he can tell us what he knows.

    In Glenn’s Own Words:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODZaaMTwfg&feature=share

    A lot of the conspiracy theory comments I read about the Boston Bombing said crazy things like the entire thing was set up by the government, that there were black ops men in the crowd to make sure the boys did their job, and had back up bombers in case they backed out.. and that the entire thing was a practice run for Martial Law to go into effect. What do YOU think?

    A few of my (facebook) friends across the United States have started reporting odd looking aircraft flying low over their neighborhoods. I haven’t seen ANYthing like, but I wonder what THAT’S about?

    I broke down and bought another 50 half ounce silver rounds this week. I’m going to TRY to refrain from buying any more at this point.. hopefully, I have enough now. Who knows. ?? I was a little surprised to find that it’ll be about THREE WEEKS before my silver gets here though. I guess everyone and their prepper brother is buying it up, so it’s a bit backlogged.

    I made a raised potato bed this week with my best prepper girlfriends, (the ones who SAY they’re coming to my house if things ever get REALLY bad, lol). Like a couple weeks ago, we took shipping pallets, removed necessary boards, and lined the bottom and sides with garden cloth.. stacked them four high, and filled them with dirt. (It took SEVEN huge bags of top soil, Two ENORMOUS bags of Peat Moss, and two 50 pound bags of sand.. to fill the pallets, but now we’re ready to plant some potatoes this week. I’m exhausted. All this manual labor is definitely getting this formerly lazy girl into a new life mindset, that’s for sure.

    We have one more quadruple pallet raised bed to make this coming week for the carrots.. but then I think we’ll be done with the grunt work, and move on to the planting.

    I transfered my nursery tomato and cherry tomato plants into clear plastic SOLO cups, because they were looking a little cramped in their seed starter self watering kits. I threw out the radish, Mesclun, and green onion seedlings I started.. they just looked… wilty, and I think they’ll do better starting new seeds outside in the next coming week or two.

    I bought two blueberry bushes, ten pounds of red and yukon gold seed potatoes, twelve strawberry plants, and a Fuji Dwarf apple tree this week. I did a bit of asking around, and found out that my new apple tree needs a buddy, *sigh* …so I’ll be heading out to the local plant nursery today to find a SECOND apple tree, so they can be friends.. :) I’m hoping to find a Gala or a Honey Crisp Variety, but I’ll see what I can find.

    I also bought a sprinkler, a timer, a pretty wind splinner, and a garden gnome for my new garden.. the latter items just for a bit of fun. All work and no play makes for one boring apocalypse. :)

    I’ve been dutifully minding my sprouting systems, my new worm army and composting bins.. I’ve made two more washcloths this week, with me reborn crocheting hobby. Hopefully I can move on to something new soon. Or at least different, to keep me from getting bored.

    Thank goodness for sprouting though, it seems to be one “gardening” aspect, (kind of), that I seem to be able to manage. At least I know that if I fall FLAT on my face with this outdoor gardening venture, that I’ll still have fresh greens in my diet, at least until the seeds run out. Note to Self; Buy More Sprouting Seeds…

    I had a five gallon, EE food bucket left over from putting my 100 pounds of white rice in them last week, so I went out and bought about 20 pounds of lentils, and 10 pounds of split peas, and poured them into one gallon mylar bags, (three of them, total), sealing them, and then put the three bags into the one bucket.. I think I have conquered my fear of mylar bags and buckets at least, if nothing else.

    I think that might be it for me this week. I’m off to the plant house to find my new tree, and then taking my boys, (ShihTzus), for a nice walk at the park.. but I’ll read up about everything the rest of the pack has done this week, this evening when I get back. Take Care, Loves.. and talk soon..

    • WYO Ryder says:

      Ames – I think the bomber boys were radicalized and did it w/o government ‘assistance’. If they had help and/or did it in conjunction with a radical group, I would of thought the group would of gotten them out of the area. They must of wanted to get caught when they robbed the 7-11…if they had half a brain, they would of laid low (or again, had left).

      It is really strange that the Craft International folks were hanging out using radiation detector type devices….what was that about?! Stuff we may never find out about. Or do we really want to know? I think if we knew 1/10th of what really goes down in DC, it would be too freaky – we would run far away and/or be packing guns 24/7.

      I will say that I thought John Kerry should of been slapped upside the head when he stated “We have more important things to move onto than Benghazi” What a dick!! I would like to know someone was held accountable for Benghazi (which stinks way more than the conspiracy surrounding the Boston bombings IMHO). This late in the game, that will probably not be happening. Oh well, deep on prepping girl!

      • WYO Ryder says:

        whoops…typo….meant to say “Keep” on prepping…:-)

      • Schametti says:

        Yeah I’m not sure exactly what GB knows, (if he’s saying they had help from the government with the bombing, or if the government just KNEW about it, but let it happen anyway, to get the people in to a place of acceptance for martial law and drones for our safety, etc). I don’t know what his big announcement will be on Monday, and maybe I’m gullible, but I believe most of what Glenn says, or at least believe that Glenn believes what he’s saying, and is basing it on specific information, so I’ll be looking forward to hearing what he has to say come Monday. I definitely think that something isn’t right.. even if it’s just that they’re letting the burned Saudi national in the hospital go, because (even though he was involved with the bombing, he’s too important to harm). *Rolls Eyes* Ridiculous.

      • Survivor says:

        I find it amazing those idiots din’t leave the city immediately following the blast. They had no escape plan. Conflicting opinions about the boys between the father and uncle The math just ain’t adding up..
        Kerry has always been a traitorous bastard. He has one Silver Star, but three citations signed by three different people for the same medal. He’s all pally with hanoi jane and she thinks Vets need to get a life.

      • Kerry’s an idiot, and so is Hillary. Benghazi never ever should have happened. Not surprised there were resignations.

        Anybody else notice a change on the Boston suspect’s cap from the first time the pic’s were on TV to later? Size of logo increased and changed just a bit? I’m not the only one who thought that.

    • What was the 3rd movie you watched?

    • Rider of Rohan says:

      Amy, that’s a good prepping week, and you’ve done an amazing job over the past few weeks. Take a little time off with hubby, and relax a little. Every once in a while we have to clear our minds. I like your spunk on the gardening. LOL.

      • Schametti says:

        I am failing HARD on the gardening, RoR. I’m getting worse at an alarming rate, lol.. But I don’t give up easy.. :)

        • JeffintheWest says:

          Your experience is NOT unusual, Schametti — I’m continuously surprised when something flourishes for me, so used was I to failure. I think as time goes on, you just sort of get a “feel” for what to do, and things turn out better. The biggest things for me are, 1) don’t rush to buy plants until the weather is ready for them (unless you have a greenhouse); and 2) be consistent in your treatment of them (don’t water them every day for a week and then not water them at all the next week) — plants are creatures of routine, it seems. After that, you just keep an eye on the weeds and pests, and don’t bother them too much (benign neglect, sort of), and they seem to do okay. The one thing I WILL do with them (if there aren’t any bees around — learned this in the desert in El Paso) is to take a fine paint brush (the kind you use to paint models) and go out and hand pollinate them. It’s tedious, but it works!

          • Schametti says:

            I had a feeling I would mess up masterfully my first year, lol… That’s why (against my initial judgement), I decided to NOT wait to garden until I was FORCED to garden.. because I knew it would be a massive learning curve, and I would need some screw-up time this year, haha. Well I didn’t surprise myself, I’m doing pitifully so far, LOL.

            I definitely learned from experience that I started too early. Having baby plants on my kitchen table for three months does NOT make for happy plants. When hardening babies, less time is more. And maaaaaybe reinforce them with some kind of baby plant stake before I take them out there in any kind of breeze. It SEEMED gentle enough.. but apparently NOT for little tiny tomato stems. *Sigh*

            I don’t know WHAT I’m going to do when I can’t go BUY new, hardy plants from the plant house, and I HAVE to grow them from seeds, because I DON’T have a green house, and I clearly don’t know nothin about babying plants to mature adulthood, lol..

            At this point, I’m just hoping I come away from this summer with SOMETHING to show for my efforts. I bought a sturdy looking tomato plant from Lowe’s, along with a cherry tomato plant.. and a dozen strawberry plants, and I’m hoping they’ll be my redemption, but we’ll see, haha.

            My girlfriend and I will be planting potatoes and a menagerie of other vegetables outside in pallets from seeds in the next two weeks, and I’m really hoping that fares better than my inside efforts. Wish me luck, I’m surely gonna need it.

            PS, YOU MUST tell me how you pollinate a plant with a brush.. by hand. When and Where and How..?!

            • Schametti, have you planted any herbs? (besides the cilantro–that one’s hard for me to keep going, too.). They’re generally easy to keep going. Chives (onion and garlic) and italian parsley reseed themselves like crazy for me.

              Lettuces and other greens are easier to start and keep up with. This year, I had volunteer arugula come up; last time I planted that was three years ago!

              You can make mini green houses out of milk jugs–poke a few holes in the bottom, run a horizontal cut around three sides (so it’s hinged), a few inches from the bottom. When you’re ready to harden them off, the milk jug protects them until you’re ready to plant.

              • Schametti, Here’s another idea for a mini greenhouse–a translucent tote:

                http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/flgard/msg081225253015.html?9

                Scroll down to see the photos.

              • Schametti says:

                Nope! Nothing but the cilantro…. yet. I have a seed pack of basil, and cilantro. I bought garlic bulbs last night. I have several different types of lettuce, arugula, mesclun.. all of which I’m hoping to plant outside. I honestly do not know.. if I’m supposed to start those as seedlings inside or if they’ll do okay from seed up in the dirt. I read a lot before I started, I swear I did, lol.. there’s just so many plants and so many opinions, and I have no idea what I’m doing.. >.< lol.

                I have packets of cucumber, sweet corn, beans, summer squash, spinach, cantelope, carrots, sunflowers, lavender, green onions, white onions, cabbage, and various other things.. I feel like trying to get anything to come up from seeds is a waste of time and money for me, but we're going to try it, since I invested so much money in seeds, and now really can't afford the cost of buying them all as plants from the store. So I guess we'll see.. I wish I had someone nearby who knew how to do this stuff, to come by and keep an eye on me, and point me in the right direction, but.. nope. I just got me. And a hubs who wants nothing to do with it, and my bestie, who knows even less than I do, LOL. Lord help us this summer..

                • Survivor says:

                  Schametti
                  Next year, if we have one, consider using heirloom varieties, if you’re not already. Seeds saved from hybrids will grow, but you never know what you’re gonna get. There are many free sites to get seed saving information.
                  http://www.seedsave.org/issi/904/beginner.html
                  I don’t know if it helps, but when I’m around my plants/seedlings I talk to them. I never notice anything different, but it can’t hurt and it might help!

            • To make strong plant stems you must keep them in strong light so they won’t get legging looking for it. I have grow lights I keep a few inches above the plant.
              Put a small fan on low so the little guys are getting lightly tosseled a bit. Turn them every other day. It will dry the soil out so water more.
              If they get too tall you must re pot. Especially tomatoes. Tomatoes will establish more roots along the stem line for a stronger plant. Some you can can’t repot or they will rot. So the strong light is a must. This is one of the reasons greenhouse plants are sturdy.
              You will be fine and don’t forget to ultilize you local greenhouse folks. They are almost always willing to help out need gardeners. Ours has a ton of free classes right now.
              You are doing a great job. Don’t worry, I have been growing huge gardens for 30 years and don’t know everything. You will get the hang of it. The best part is that you are doing it right now and not just talking about it.

            • JeffintheWest says:

              Well, one thing to keep in mind is that the plant store buys their plants from someone who started seeds in the first place — by planting from seed, what you’re really doing is cutting out two middlemen (and saving a ton of money).

              Actually, you don’t need a full on greenhouse — you can make “cold frames” from some lumber and an old window (or even just some plastic and some hoops — if you do a google search on that you’ll immediately get some pictures that show you exactly what I’m talking about) that will do just as well for the baby plants, but again, you don’t want to start TOO early — only you know your weather conditions well enough to gauge correctly what time of the year to begin. (For really easy homemade cold frames, check out this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-nKq-2aF_U

              One thing you might want to do is to cast your mind back over the past few years in your location and do your very best to remember weather conditions — roughly when did the weather break? When do you remember your last frost being (on average, but note the exceptions too, since that can change your strategy). Some things you can’t do anything about (acts of God), but a little careful planning can usually minimize weather impacts. (Though in NM, every year, without fail, the past ten years, we had a snap freeze about a week after the apricot trees flowered, which inevitably killed all the flowers and resulted in zero apricots. If anyone actually ever gets apricots in northern NM, it’s a GOOD year! Que sera, sera, though.)

              Kate here on the blog is a master gardener and will probably provide you some advice if you ask her — she’s forgotten more about gardening than I probably will ever know. In fact, if your county has a master gardener, they will provide you good advice (for free — that’s what they’re there for) AND it will be tailored to your specific location in terms of weather, soil and bugs. Usually the master gardener program is either run out of the city/county parks program, or possibly a county extension program — check out your county’s web page. There are probably even classes you can take too that eventually might even help YOU qualify to be a Master Gardener yourself….

              Hand pollinating — not a big deal. Just wait for the plants to flower (I always wait a few more days, just in case any bees or other useful pollinating bugs show up and do it naturally — why work if you don’t have to?) and then simply take your paint brush and gently dab it in the center of the flower moving from flower to flower on the tree, bush or plant and between plants of the same type (or between “buddy” plants that work as cross-pollinators, e.g., the apple trees you’ve been talking about). Note that it’s a good idea to use different paint brushes on different types of plants (so you’re not cross-pollinating between say, tomatoes and musk melons — which at best simply doesn’t work, and at worst would give you, what? a tomusk melon? a muscato melon? Actually, it doesn’t work quite that way — your immediate result from cross-pollinating two different plants that can actually accept one another’s pollen will be whatever the plants are supposed to grow, but the SEEDS will be something different by way of a hybrid…. ;-) ). Pretty simple. My mom figured it out when I was a kid, we tried it on her tomatoes and it worked like a champ. We always had tomatoes after that! Not sure if she just made it up, read it somewhere, or had learned it from her folks (who were farmers during the Great Depression in Ohio). Hand pollinating is always a last resort move for me though, since I like bees and want them to have plenty of pollen to work with!

              • Schametti says:

                Kate’s given me a lot of great advice so far.. Tums for my tomatoes, and sand for my potatoes, etc etc. :)

                I’ve started planting some things into my raised pallet beds, but I’m really struggling, trying to figure out whyyyyyy plants need so much darn room to grow. I mean, I am in small raised beds, we don’t have a lot of space.. so when they say 24 inches apart, I’m like, I AM NOT putting just ONE plant in this row, that seems ridiculous, so I put two.. or three. (We just started tonight, and just with a few things), but since I’ve never done this before, I just have no idea what to expect.. So I’m sure I’m breaking ALL the rules and doing everything ALL WRONG. *Sigh* I guess we shall see. I’m just trying to maximize what I can plant, and plant more than the directions want me to. :/

                As far as the weather here goes. It’s schizophrenic. This morning when we started it was sixty degrees, and supposed to be 55 degrees over night, but PSYCH! It dropped to thirty degrees and we could see our breath, and the sin disappeared and we were in the dark, hilarious, and brutal at the same time, I’ll tell you about it more on the next WDYDTPTW thread, lol.. but yeah, it was bad. So what I planted, I went out to lay some plastic over, and I don’t even know if I did THAT right, or if it’ll be okay by tomorrow, but again, we’ll see I guess, haha. Oi, nervous, exhausted…. broke. LOL.

                • JeffintheWest says:

                  Well, the recommended spacings are so they can grow to full size and bear full size “fruit.” (If you’ll pardon the use of that word as a generic reference to whatever item you’re hoping to harvest). As a matter of fact, what I usually do is plant them closer together and then “thin” them later when I see which ones are doing the best, so the hardiest ones can spread out and really cut loose.

                  Weather sucks. It’s always too hot or too cold, too wet or too dry, and never when you need it. (I’m eerily reminded of Madeleine Kahn’s song in the saloon in Blazing Saddles by that last sentence). All you can do is the best you can do. One suggestion — if you aren’t already, start keeping a “garden journal” so you can record dates, weather, what you planted, how often you water, what kinds of bugs show up to eat your crop, what plants did well and which ones poorly, how much you harvested, and so on. Over time, it will be worth it’s weight in gold to you.

                  • Schametti says:

                    Jeff, that’s a great idea. Since I just started planting outside this week, (a bit prematurely I suspect), I just killed my basil last night, because temps dropped, even though I covered them, it didn’t help. *Sigh* Anyway.. I’ll back track the week and start writing down what I’ve done to mess up so far, haha.. ans atart keeping track of everything. I so agree with you though, Jeff, too hot, too cold.. too wet.. too dry.. and I’m having such a hard start to this. I just hope I catch up to the learning curve, and some out at the end with SOMEthing edible, and alive, LOL.

                    • For all you folks new to gardening. Keep trying. Watch your weather daily.
                      These times are more trying for gardeners because climate change is really changing things .Years ago we could trust that when the oak leaves were the size of a squirrels ear one could plant corn etc. -not true anymore.
                      Check with your county Cooperative Extension office for your usual last frost dates for your region and please make sure to get your soil tested so you know your PH level . When you start munching those delicious veggies you will be glad you perservered. Arlene
                      PSI learned how to garden organically from my Grandpa when I was 13 and now I am a Grandma teaching our young ones.

                • I’m curious about the Tums for tomatoes – what does it do? How does it help?

                  Also, as for planting closer together than recommended – check out something called square foot gardening. I used to have a link to a page that talked about growing all the food you need on a half-acre lot, that included a house. I don’t know enough about it to really tell you much but planting closer than recommended can be done.

                  • Schametti says:

                    GA Red.. Kate says the tomatoes need extra calcium, and that’s what the TUMS are predominantly made up of. She recommended that I put four tabs in at planting, and three every month of the growing season thereafter, so that’s what I’m doing. :)

                    • Thanks – I’ll see if I can find the off brand Tums that no one in my house will use and spread them around my tomatoes. I don’t know that they “need” the calcium but I’m sure it will help keep the soil in good shape.

                    • Yup calcium. Good way to use up any out of date dry milk too. Keeps blossom end rot from happening. Let me tell ya, picking that big beautiful Krim and discovering its rotten from the bottom in just blows.. And you have to do from the beginning.

                  • JeffintheWest says:

                    Potentially valid point on the square foot gardening thing. I suspect a lot of the spacing rules go back to what was easiest to hoe by hand and make sure you weren’t killing the good plants with the bad, and such things. A lot probably also depends on your soil. a 20 yard spacing might not be enough in the Chihuahuan desert, whereas a few inches might be just fine in really good, loamy soil with all the proper balances and nutrients in it. Speaking of which, I just attended a quick seminar in brewing Compost Tea — looks interesting and we’ll definitely be giving that a try when we get a place!

  35. Encourager says:

    I hope I catch you before you go off and buy that apple tree. You need to make sure it will cross pollinate with the one you have. Some do, some don’t.

    • I was about to say the same thing, but even if you do get something that will cross polinate, well, you will still end up with apples.

      • Schametti says:

        Turns out hubby put his foot down, and said no more spending for the rest of the month. He said that last week too, buuuuut sometimes he changes his mind. Not this time, lol.

        And yes, I googled pollinating friendly trees. Found a helpful link here. http://www.amherstnurseries.com/FruitTreePollinatorsChart-id-51.html (Actually a friend helped me find the site). Anyway, as I said, I BOUGHT a Fuji Dwarf, and I’m LOOKING to buy a Gala or a Honey Crisp. Both are on the Yes list for pairings with my Fuji.

        However, no new tree for me until next month, so here’s hoping Mr. Fuji can wait a couple weeks before he gets his buddy. :/

        • riverrider says:

          ames, prepping is an endurance sport. you have come a long way. settle into a pace that will get you there w/out breaking the bank/burning out.

          • Schametti says:

            Oh I definitely agree with that Rider. But I fear that time might be running out, so I’m trying to fill vital holes before I run out of time. I know something will happen before I’M READY for it, but if I can get MOST of what I need in place before then, then I’ll be happy. (My husband though, possibly not, lol. He’s been VERY supportive with most of my purchases and prepping the last seven months (?) so I’m really lucky, but I think this gardening venture is starting to piss him off.. he doesn’t see the need for spending so much time and most importantly.. his MONEY.. for plants and dirt, etc.. He’s definitely taken a stand on not helping me with it, lol.. I have to laugh in my head when I’m struggling with a second or third or fourth bag of 64 quarts of topsoil.. walking and grunting by him and him laughing at me, and choosing to stand there while I waddle across the yard with it. *Sigh* He’ll come around, but he’s definitely dragging his feet about it.

            TTT, Blueberries! What about them?? :P

            • Survivor says:

              Please remind hubby that when you harvest all this produce he will see the savings then.

            • Good luck with the hubby – he might come around when he realizes how much better home grown tastes than store bought. Mine looks at it as doing things the way his grandparents did – he remembers his grandmother’s pantry being lined with canning jars full of foods from the garden.

            • Schmagetti=wait until he tastes those delicious home grown veggies.He should be ashamed of himself letting you do all that work alone. Arlene

    • Thomas T. Tinker says:

      LIKE blue berries!!

  36. Hey Pack. I took the DW on drive and we just “happened” to drive by the US Calcary store in thr Ft. Knox area and they have an awesome clearance area set up with some truly outstanding deals, especially on boots. I got 2 pairs of excellent tactical duty boots for $99 that normally would have cost $250. They also had lots of apparel and some other stuff so if you’re in this area it’s worth a visit.

    Also got my DW’s new BOB paced and coverted her other on to our first aid bag.

    That’s it for this week, stay strong and be vigilant.

    Molon Labe

  37. Dehydrated as much of my canned food storage as I can to get ready for our move. I’m planning on putting the dehydrated food in mason jars and seal with the food saver.
    Read a cookbook called “Soup Mixes Using Dehydrated Products” that I bought from Harmony House. It looks really interesting. I’ll let you know how a recipe turns out as soon as I try one.
    Thought about the “Shelter in place” for Boston. Preps are good, but I need more things that the kids can do inside. We are such outside people that the kids are outside in rain, snow, etc. It would be really hard on them to have to be inside all day. I’m trying to think of projects they can do – maybe make cardboard can rotation boxes, that sort of thing. Active things. Then I thought about if there were a nuclear event and we had to shelter in a really small space – what could the kids do? That needs some thought.

    • Dianne,
      Kid friendly things, (I dont know what age group you are looking for) board games, cards, play dough, stringing beads, finger paints, coloring books, read aloud books, glow sticks (if you feel adventurous cut open the glow sticks and allow the kids to splatter the walls with it), soft balls (and I do mean soft, so if dad and son decide to have a soccer game inside the ball doesnt go crashing into everything and break a mirror- not that I would have any experience with that), fill containers with rice or beans and make a band, play dress up – even little boys can get in on this with super hero costumes.
      Then there are also your games like hide n seek, or its counter part game sardines, where one person hides and everone looks, when you find the person you hide with them until the last person. Then there is red light green light, follow the leader, hopscotch, twister.
      If you have electricity do a movie day complete with popcorn and snacks, dance contest, musical chairs, audio books. Allow the kids to build a blanket tent, turn the lights out and give them a flash light or battery operated lantern.

      • Oh something else, you can teach them to sew by hand, quilt, crochet, knit, plastic canvas, other art stuff like that. It is a useful life skill and when in need it can keep hands busy.

        • TG – Thanks for the great ideas. I’m going to print out your response and gather up some items in a container. I might also put a ball, paper, crayons,etc in one of our BOBs. I sew, knit and crochet, but I haven’t taught these skills to our kids yet. Adding that to the list . I did put some books in our basement “pantry” – Mysterious Island, Lord of the Rings, Redwall series, so I can read those to our kids.

          • Sw't Tater says:

            plastic canvass work, can make christmas gifts for family members…just need plenty yarn, needles. a few kits have all you need+instructions.

      • Survivor says:

        Another thing to do with the kids is have story time. Ancient peoples across the globe have passed on knowledge and skills from this art.

  38. Good afternoon Pack! Had such a busy weekend last week didn’t get to post. Had a visit from the Grandgirls on Saturday and spent Sunday trying to recover! 4 year and almost 2 year olds have LOTS of energy!

    Had my 10 day follow up with the eye Dr., apparently I’m a fast healer, she told me she didn’t need to see me for 3 months, instead of the usual 30 days. While my sight has fluctuated, as predicted, it’s been 3 weeks and that seems to be almost a thing of the past.

    During that trip we went to Sam’s and picked up another 50# of rice. and some lentils And picked up some plants for the garden.

    We have strawberries, and Blue berry’s blooming in our greenhouse along with another long list of plants sheltering there till frost is over.

    DH picked up some plum trees while he was on an outing along with some heirloom tomato plants.

    We decided that we needed a drive way alarm that leads to our big barn to secure it against thieves in the area. So that order has been placed. Also ordered motion detector alarm for the garage, we have a side door on it and we sleep in the other end of the house this way we would be alerted if someone broke into the far in of the house.

    Ordered millenium bars and Mountain house assortment bucket. Ordered and received LDS Red wheat, pinto bean and rice along with 3 of their started kits and lids.

    Hubby picked up a Savage model 24 for a song! Pre 1968 at that! We know that because he research why it didn’t have a serial number on it, and found that that they didn’t serial number those guns till after 1968.

    Ammo is still an issue here so glad we did all that buying when we did but do feel like we can go to the range right now because ammo is so hard to replace! But I want to try out my new eyes!

    I want to plant some roses to start collecting rose hips of our own. I would appreciate some recommendations from the pack. I’ve always wanted some roses but could never decide which ones would best fit our needs. I would prefer something that was a bush as apposed to climbers/vines type. We live in Zone 7 area.

    Thank you all for the great articles! Keep them coming wish I was a writer!

    Stay safe and keep on keepin’ on!

    • CR,

      You can’t go wrong with the Knockout roses. I bought a couple when they first come out and have made some more from cuttings. My all time favorite rose (for ease of care and blooming all season long) is the Texas Caldwell Pink. Those things root overnight it seems. I have them all over the place.

      • Bam Bam thank you! That’s what I really wanted but wasn’t sure that they would produce.

    • Wild roses have some of the best rose hips, but any rose can be used as long as it is pesticide free. Although rosa rugosa and rosagallica are known to taste better.
      Just dont forget those little hairs in the rose hips are what itching powder is made from.

    • I live in a zone 7 area – perfect for roses. I just ordered some roses from directgardening.com and they are so cheap – 3 for $4.99, 6 for $9.49, 9 for $17.99 and 24 for $36.49. I bought 24 of them for security reasons and the rosehips (dual purpose). I haven’t been home since they arrived, but my son says they are 1-1/2 to 2 feet tall. Here is what the website says:

      Rose, Rosa Rugosa
      Item # 6661 Rosa rugosa
      One plant offers so much!
      Beauty, privacy, health and protection in one crimson pink flowering rose hedge! The Rosa Rugosa Rose produces hundreds of beautiful blooms, and is also nature’s richest source of Vitamin C! Lovely, crimson-pink, single and semi-double roses are produced by the hundreds each June, and then continue to re-bloom intermittently until frost. Planted 2′ apart, Rosa Rugosa roses make an ideal rose fence, growing about 6′ high. Makes a hedge so strong and thick, animals, children and trespassers can’t get through. Helps screen out street noises too. Also very attractive planted as specimen rose shrubs at focal points throughout your property. Old-fashioned fragrance — Maine hardy! Found along the seacoast of Maine, especially along the famous “Marginal Way” at Ogunquit, Maine, so you know it’s winter hardy and can even take seaside conditions. Little or no pruning or spraying is required. Hundreds of Vitamin-rich rose hips! Each flower turns into an attractive orange-red Rose Hip. Rose Hips have been found to be one of nature’s richest sources of Vitamin C, higher even than oranges. We’ll send you recipes telling how to make Rose Hip Extract, Rose Hip Puree and Rose Hip Soup with your order. Plant in sun to partial sun. Attracts birds. Drought tolerant. Great for cut flowers.

  39. WYO Ryder says:

    Hi MD and Pack!
    -I had a week similar to Backwoods Prepper – work 45 hrs, animals to tend to am & pm and school exams. So didn’t get much done in the way of preps (or as much as I would of liked). Did buy a lot of wound preps on sale at Family $$ which is a good thing as my son slammed his finger in the door – bad – think he broke the tip of his finger bone – so I’ve been practicing wrapping and splint techniques, along with pain management on him.
    -Mom, prep friend, my daughter (16 yrs old) and I went to a non-certified basic firearms training class this morning taught by a friend who used to be in numerous alphabet agencies (he’s a good guy). Learned a lot and was happy my daughter did too. She starts at the gun range next week.
    -Mapped out my new, improved garden plots, my indoor toms and peppers are producing, taters are WAY ready to put into the ground…sweet taters are taking their sweet time producing slips. We had major blizzards last week so no where near time to start planting outside. Am thinking of using my old shipping hay pallets for raised beds like Amy did (hi Amy! :)…good job!

    Wanted to thank Bam for the great flu articles – copied and in binder – thanks to the info, my prep list Thursday contains more sheet plastic, duct tape, big trash bags and masks. I did designate the master bedroom as the isolation room if the need arises…would be a pain to leave my own bedroom but it has a bathroom and a long hallway as secondary/anti-chamber area. Of course I am also praying that never happens but Bam’s article got me thinking that I had better have preps in place.

    That’s it for me.
    Peace.

    • WYO Ryder,

      You are welcome. I really struggled with whether to use a bedroom or a bathroom as the sickroom. My concern with the bedroom is the carpeting. The flu virus can live on clothing for 8 hours. So the carpet and the sheets and blankets would all get infected. I opted for the hall bathroom because it would be less space to clean. But I may change my mind. I don’t think sleeping on an air mattress would be all that comfortable.

      • WYO Ryder says:

        Bam Bam,
        The carpeting is a very good point to consider. Perhaps I will re-think the master bedroom scenario (which is all carpet) to the guest bath/smaller kid’s room, as that carpet can be removed fairly easy and I could triple layer the plastic in the adjoining hallway that is open to the L.R.?? (this bothers me, too close to main living area). I do not have a bathroom that is that large, unless they slept in the tub :-(.

        I’ll figure it out….thanks again!
        PS off to buy some dried elderberries, elderberry syrup and a shrub.

      • Bam Bam,
        I would use my guest room as a sick room. The room has a queen bed. I have a plastic mattress cover I will put on the mattress. It is thick enough to be swabbed down with bleach, alcohol or lysol. I use the same kind of bedding the hospital uses. Plain white sheets, cotton blankets that can be thrown in bleach water buckets. These linens would go outside, directly out the window or door, not through the common area, into a boiling wash cauldron, then air dried.
        Carpet scares me for alot of reasons. I have ripped out alot of carpet. I have wood floors and virus could possibly live in the cracks for a bit, but if you keep it clean and decomtaminate when you leave the room, booties etc. I think it would be OK. Hard non porous tile would be the only sure way to keep it sterile. How many of us have that?
        It would be nice to have a shower for the care giver to wash before going into the common area. A place to strip, throw sick room gloves, mask and clothes in bleach water bucket to soak,
        shower throughly, step into other room and put on clean clothes.
        I think it would be a good idea for the caregiver to wear a mask at all times in the common room in case they were infected and didn’t know it.
        Our caregiver will most likely be me, and I don’t relish the idea of wearing a mask all the time. If it kept the others from getting sick then we do what we must.

        • I agree on the carpet. In a grid down situation or even if the electricity is off for only a few days the amount of dirt trapped in carpet can be considerable. I have laminate and vinyl floor throughout and with just me and 4 cats the amount of dirt and stuff tracked in is considerable but with a little sweeping and light mopping things are kept under control. For rugs I use bath mat type rugs (with rubber back) – they will be easy to wash and can be hung to dry.

    • Schametti says:

      Hieeeee, hehe. :P The pallet raised beds are going to work great, I think. Still a bit early to know for sure, especially since this is my attempt at gardening, and I’m still not sure I know what I’m doing, LOL. BUT.. I’m in it for the long haul effort. We have four single layer pallets, and one four pallet potato bed, and this coming Wednesday we’ll be doing another Quad for the carrots. My bestie and I are super excited to pick our own dinner out of the yard this summer, so I hope I don’t let us down with the tending. I wish I could share a picture of how my little pallet garden is coming along. They might not be the most PRETTY raised bed, but I think they’ll definitely be practical enough and get the job done. :)

  40. Concentrated on getting my digital library more complete . Ok folks , this is paranoid on my part , but you also know how reactionary the government is . In light of current events , specifically Boston . I think it may be wise to get all those downloads off the net that you may have been putting off now before they start to censor the internet . For those of you that have a mac , there is a mac native function called ” print to .pdf ” this allows you to literally turn anything you see on the internet ( or any document you are working on at home , text or graphic ) into a .pdf .
    all you have to do is click on your printer icon , when the drop down menu pops up , select PDF at the bottom LH side , it will then have another drop down asking you where you want to put the .pdf .
    its that easy .
    There are many , many informational download databases out there , this is a small one I grabbed a few thing off of http://www.survivetyranny.com/

    • TR,

      Or just get a copy of M.D.’s CD.

      • I already have it ………….but its incomplete , its only about classic survival . You also need to acquire information about how to resist tyranny . Just sayin .

    • I’m running some flavor of Windows…. CutePDF seems adequate. Perhaps there is a more popular solution nowadays. Basically it looks like a “choose printer” pulldown.

      • I’m not familiar with windows functionality , but I would bet that there is a pdf app by now . Google it and see if cnet has freeware . Or if you know somebody with a mac , send them the link and have them email you back the pdf .

      • I use CutePDF too it works fine for me.

      • TR,
        I personally use PDFCreator but have friends who use CutePDF. PDFCreator is free and simply installs like a printer so you do a normal print and select it as the printer. You can them give the file a name and use the standard Windows dialog to tel the system where to place the document.

        • You can convert documents to PDF, secect the text you want to save, copy then paste to Word, then save as PDF. If your word doesn’t have that option, go to the Microsoft websit and get the add on. Now you cant edit from that point without transforming back to .doc by opening up PDF and save as .doc or .txt.

  41. bought and planted 2 Cortland apple trees! re-rototilled the garden to get ready to plant! bought seeds non-gmo of course! pretty much set in the garden area! the wife and I haven’t had a cig in 2 months!! we vape now!! and are cutting down on the nicotine levels!
    reading a lot lately so things are not getting done as quick as I like but knowledge is important! that’s it for me!!

    • WYO Ryder says:

      bill w –

      Way to go – not smoking in two months! (been there, done that – its not easy)
      You will feel SO much better for it :-)

    • Survivor says:

      Congrats on the no smoking thing!!!!

  42. Went to the semi-annual “big” library book sale – this one covers non-fiction and is usually worth going for. Got a bunch of books to resell as well as some prepping books. Also some books for my “Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse” pile … mainly literary classics.
    Listed, listed, listed for ebay.
    Turned more space in the garden. Tilled. Turned more, tilled more.
    Got the 9mm bullet molds we ordered in. This means we have dies and molds for all the calibers we own (except no bullet mold for the .303 we just recently bought). That’s a weight off my mind.
    Shot twice this week – that’s good. Getting more comfortable with the 9mm we got for my concealed carry gun. Watched the state legislature here in Illinois be stupid … at this rate we’ll end up with constitutional carry because they can’t get their acts together to pass a bill regulating concealed carry.
    Got rained out of my garden – we got 4.4 inches in 4 days here – and then it turned cold. Frost on the ground this morning as we went to an art festival. Don’t believe the hype about the economy recovering – it’s not. Lots of lookers, few sales, and the sales we had were almost all cash sales. We didn’t lose money today but it sure doesn’t feel like the recovery is there folks.
    That was about it for us this week – very busy with non-prepping stuff.

  43. This weekly post is such a wealth of information. I love how everyone shares their knowledge on various things. It was a long week at work, you can definitely tell its getting close to the end of the school year. But we did manage to get a few things done today. Hubby is working on clearing some brush from the front of the house, to hopefully make way for a couple dwarf fruit trees or a raised bed garden. We bought the wood to make said garden. Not sure yet if its going in the front or back. Picked up 5 5-gal food grade buckets, 2 metal shelves for storage items, and 2 rolls of Duct tape at the hardware store, picked up a couple clearance dry soup mixes at Aldis. Tomorrow is our big grocery/stock up day. Oh, also filled (cleaned) soda bottles with water. We now have 24 liters. Its a start.

    • Oh and also went to Wally World and got some of the 88 cent medicines.

    • ladyhawthorne says:

      Good for you, a start is definitely better than none. I have empty juice bottles I need to clean and fill too, thanks for the reminder!

  44. axelsteve says:

    I scored a coleman double burner campstove today.It was missing the fueltank and pipe so it is a canidate for a propane conversion.The box is in good shape and the burners are there. I paid 1 dollar for it so I am not sniveling about anything.

  45. With the bees coming in 2 1/2 weeks I finally got some of the new equipment (kits) assembled). Six deep supers, 60 deep frames, and wax foundation in 20 of the frames. Another half dozen hours this week and I’ll have the rest of the foundation installed and the supers painted, all in time for the bees.
    DW headed to Boston to be with the DD at school. She was a little freaked out with the bombings and the MIT officer killed, so mom and daughter decided they needed some time together. Hadn’t batched it in a while, but doing OK, and actually enjoying the quiet.

  46. Papabear says:

    Hello Pack,

    Between work, overtime hours, rushing about trying to be productive and being broke no progress was made here. However………

    GS2 made his appearance last night coming in at 8 lbs 14 ozs. Got to see him this afternoon. He has a full head of hair! Arrived just in time for GS1 to see his new baby brother. He is taking it very well.
    DIL is doing well. She had an easier time than for the first one.

    Many Thanks to the Pack for the prayers. I truely believe they helped.

  47. ladyhawthorne says:

    Well it’s been a week, prayers & good thoughts to those in Boston and West, TX.

    I have been dealing with the car’s transmission issue for nearly 4 weeks and after the dealership had the car off & on for almost 2 weeks it was decided they could not fix it. Beware the transmission system in the 2012 & 2013 Ford Focus. I am sad because otherwise it was the perfect vehicle for me. I now have a 2013 Ford Escape in the driveway and I’m paying $40 more a month but my insurance rate went down slightly. The ONLY thing to go down in the last year except for my paycheck (thanks to Obamacare).

    Now what did I do to prep this week?

    Ordered 2 pounds of dried organic elderberries after reading the flu pandemic article, which was excellent. I made elderberry tincture last year with berries I picked but I only have a half pint as I shared with a friend.

    My tiny garden in buckets is doing well even with the cooler night temps we got this week, even the carrots have sprouted up.

    Went to the scratch & dent grocery store this morning:
    8 boxes stove top stuffing 50¢ each
    #10 can green beans $2.39, I’ll re-can in pints
    2lb jar of raw local honey $6.99
    8lb bag pinto beans $4.79
    2-29oz cans of peaches $1.29 each
    2-28oz cans tomatoes 70¢ each
    4 boxes blueberry breakfast bars $1 each, not quite organic but not full of stuff I can’t pronounce either.
    1 can cream of chicken soup 59¢
    1 can Dinty More Beef Stew dated 2015, not dented, $1.19
    1lb of black beans 59¢
    4-5oz pkgs Sunsweet dried berries 75¢ each
    20oz minced garlic $1.50
    2-½oz bags of Tadin Mullien flowers 39¢ each, looks to be a good company with natural products. The tea is supposed to be good for coughs and mullien flower oil for ear infections.
    My major score was a box of Bigelow Chamomile Mango tea, my favorite and I have not been able to find any in years! $1.59, sadly they only had one.

    I’ve also had an upswing in sales of the saint pendants I make so I’m working on more including 2 special orders tomorrow. Other ebay & etsy sales seem non-existent lately, guess no one wants medieval history books. Have not had time yet to sort out anything else that needs selling.

    • Hopefully you’ll love your Escape as much as I love mine! I have a 2010 (an upgrade from a 2000 Focus) and I wouldn’t trade it for the world!

    • Check Amazon for your Bigelow Chamomile Mango Tea. They carry it.

  48. Kelekona says:

    BTW, does anyone know what to do with stale gasoline?

    I can’t remember if it was stabilized or not, but our gas-can kinda suffered a vacuum structural event.

    And I should really drain the scooter instead of trying to burn off enough fuel to give the stall-happy mecha-thing a peaceful resolution.

    • With old gas from the year before, I add a little to a full tank of gas, every time I fill up. Other wise I used it for cleaning engine parts.

      All my small gas engines are burnt off to empty in the fall, ready for new fresh gas for spring chores again. If I had a little left, I added premium gas to dilute it.

    • Survivor says:

      Add enough dishwashing liquid to make it thicken and you have poor man’s napalm. A good offensive and defensive weapon… Ya never know!!

      • JeffintheWest says:

        Or you can take laundry detergent (the powdery kind) and mix it in until it thickens like gravy — works just the same.

        • Just don’t let any 12 year olds have any they may burn down the neighbors hedgerow. Not that I would know anything about that, strictly hypothetical you know!!

  49. Lake Lili says:

    Well we are frozen again up here above your north border… There is a reason we plant nothing until after the May 24 weekend. But we did have a couple thaws during the week and I got some of the beds cleared. Its going to be a bit longer until I can dig the veg garden. Should really stop pushing the season though – our garden centers only opened this weekend. Picked up a couple flats of corn and peas.

    Have been getting Monkey’s summer camp programs sorted out. The local conservation authority runs terrific programs on everything from fishing to wilderness survival, to ecosystem identification. The University of Waterloo’s engineering department runs rural outreach camps as well. So Monkey will have some good variety. Have also started to order the homeschooling materials for Monkey who will be starting Grade 3 this fall. Am very impressed with the Layola Press’ Voyages in English. We will be continuing with Singapore Math. Monkey knows his times tables and is doing mental calculations with two and three digits… meanwhile the Ontario curriculum is still only adding and subtracting (not too impressed with that and certainly not an encouragement to put Monkey into the system). We will be getting Canadian history and geography books from Northwoods Press. We are still working on which curriculum to use for science – any recommendations welcomed. There is a local woman who teaches art and we will be starting piano again in the Fall. So there is enough in there to keep us all busy for a while.

    Rohan – meant to say thanks for the hello last week. Appreciated.

    • Lake lili, for the life of me I can not think of the science program for my kids, but the lady who put it together, her name is aurora lipper. I know as soon as I send this I will remember. I also know a lot of families like apolagia, and I think I have a couple of files, if you want I can send them to you via email to check out.

    • Good to hear from you LL. I take it monkey is doing much better? Good to hear that. Prayers out to you and yours

      • Lake Lili says:

        Thanks Mexneck! Prayers always appreciated. Monkey is doing well. Medically, the finally determinations mean that his issues are not progressive, or degenerative but they are also not correctable. We thank God that his symptomology is mild and that all parties agree that homeschooling is in his best interest. But no matter what I have a great kid and for that I am blessed. But I had best up the preps – he can eat us out of house and home…

    • Lake Lily,
      Although we did not home school, we supplemented our DD’s education with lots of science and mathematics (after all, I’m a nerd, engineer, and science buff). We have nearly all if not all of the books by Janice VanCleave, who’s Science for Every Kid series is in my opinion, a must for every library. Her books not only contain lots of kid friendly information, but dozens of experiments you can make with materials around the home. I’ve always found that letting kids (or people in general) play around with, and see the effects of science (known as applied science) was always better than just reading about it.

      Information on her Kids series can be found here: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-103846.html

      And on her other kid related science books, here: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-104120.html

      I’m not necessarily endorsing this site, other than for their information. I would purchase the books from the best place you can find on the net. Good luck and hopefully you’ll be able to convince monkey that science is fun.

      • Ohio Prepper, thanks for the links. I will check these out. I am always on the look out for good math and science stuff. My kids are hands on learners, thats why the science program I use helps, but I would also like something in book form as well.

  50. I got my garden seeds the other day. I am ready to plant except I have 2 feet of snow still on the ground and the plow piled a 6 foot snowbank on top of my garden! Worse yet, more snow coming. Awwwgh! My geraniums in the house are 3 feet tall, blooming like crazy but screaming to go outside!!!

    It has been unseasonly cold and snowy this year. Our fishing opener is 3 weeks away and the ice on the lakes is 3 feet thick, Our campgrounds open in 2 weeks which can’t happen with 2 feet on snow, and the DNR is considering closing lakes until after the late spawn. The resort I work can’t access the cabins to clean, and their long gravel road is unusable with the thawing of deep mud. This has turned out to be an iceage for us up north.

  51. Limited preps due to having major dental work done. Dr ended up having to put me to sleep as the local wasn’t working. I spent Wed & Thurs mostly sleeping. I lost 5 lbs in 3 days since I could not hardly eat anything.

    Today I went to the $ store and bought first aid supplies. Bought some of those 88 cent meds at Wally World. While I was there I noticed that there were a lot of empty shelves. Maybe since I just read the first book of 299 Days it made me think too much?!

    Since I could not do very much. I finished reading MD’s book 31 Days to Survival and 299 Days. I have ordered the 2nd and 3red book of that series. I also ordered a book on making cheese, butter and yogurt and another book on making herbal hand creams and salves.

    Next week I plan to call the herb stores in the nearby city to see if any of them carry dried elderberries and to gather all of the supplies that Bam Bam mentioned in her article. I was wondering Bam Bam, if there is a flu outbreak do you think taking a dose of the elderberry tincture would help prevent getting the flu in the first place? If so, how much would you recommend? With 6 young granddaughters who seem to get sick easily I have been trying to find ways to boost their immunity.

    Just finished watching the remake of Red Dawn. It was pretty good.

    • I forgot to mention that my blueberries are blooming and 4 of the 6 dwarf trees are leafing out. Now if I can just start getting my garden planted.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      vitamin a one time dose…with zinc 50mg one time dose..immunity booster.

    • Schametti says:

      I have the first five of the Glen Tate – 299 Days series sitting here on my desk. :) I heard they were great, and I’m looking forward to reading them, but I hesitate to start them until they release the other five. I haaaaate waiting, with a passion, once I start, I like to barrel through them, lol. I to watched the Red Dawn remake this last past week, and enjoyed it very much, but it made me fret something awful. I can just see that very thing happening. Wolverines!!

      • Schametti,
        I know what you mean. I got books 2 and 3 in the mail yesterday and I am already about halfway through book 3.

        Did you see the first Red Dawn. The first one the kids where living out in the mountains and fought the Cuban and Russian invaders there. I liked that the new one was more about urban fighting. It shows that anyone can stand up and fight.

        My dh finally wants us to get our CCW permits. We have been saving some money so that we can buy some guns when we get the permits. Then it is practice and more practice.

        • Schametti says:

          I’ve not seen the first Red Dawn! I recently heard it was great though, and will have to see about watching that one too. :)

          The Hubby and I got out CC permits this last past November. He has a beretta, and I have a .45cal and a mini revolver, (the latter, I just bought a holster for, and will attempt to get used to carrying). I definitely think the times are changing for the worse enough to make that an important decision.

  52. I was just in walmart to pick something up and figured I would stop by the pharmacy area. They were completely out of gloves. As in all brands and all types. They also only had one box of generic face masks. Hmmmm.
    I went ahead and picked up more ibprophen, bandaids and a hot water bottle. The water bottle came with attachments for an enema, while I wouldnt use this particular set up as it is hard to sanitize, I figured I would mention here that enemas can be used to hydrate a person who is seriously dehydrated if an iv is not available. It floods the small intestine with water which it can easily absorb. It is faster than electrolyte drinks.

    • Survivor says:

      TG
      Just a thought, but Lowes and Home Depot sell painting masks…

      • Survivor, I was just shocked that this particular walmart was out of stuff in the pharmacy section. Usually they arent out of stuff there…. now there electronics is another story.

        • We just got back from a shopping trip–we had to go to two different Super Walmarts to get cat food (Meox Mix original) and cat litter (Scoop Away). The shelves are empty. We even asked them to check in back to see if they had some waiting to be stocked and they didn’t.

          This is just another reason to hate Walmart.

          • Bam Bam, I really despise walmart, and the only reason I go is because they are open late nights when I get the chance to get to the store. I thought it was just me who couldnt stand them.

            • We hate Wally World too. There are a few things we purchase there but only because we can’t find them elsewhere for a decent price and/or size packages. Motor oil is one and canning jars is another – Ball, not the store brand.

              One thing to note – they are carrying American made towels again under the label “Made Here”. They are from 1888 Mills in Griffin, Ga. I have bought towels from 1888 Mills via Amazon and have found them to be a better quality towel than what is sold at Wally World. Same maker, but better quality on Amazon.

    • Sw't Tater says:

      try the mowing dept.

    • Excellent tip alert. Thank you. I read somewhere that there was a shipwrecked family that saved themselves that way. The mom was a nurse and knew about this apparently.

      • Mexneck, most people hear the word enema and are instantly put off, but I figured if there was a group of people willing to listen outside their comfort zone to hear something that could potentially save their life, it would be the wolf pack.

        • Hey , any group that buys crotchless leather underpants and falsies is surely not going to be put off by a little enema. Thanks for sharing.

    • Schametti says:

      I just bought a couple mags of 20 each latex gloves in the gardening section of Lowe’s, along with a three pack of masks. (I bought them to make soap soon, but the back ups will be great in the med preps. The 20 gloves were just a buck, so definitely something to look into if your walmart doesn’t have them. :)

      • Schametti says:

        *Sigh* Bags, not mags, lol.

      • Shametti, I never would have figured lowes for latex gloves. If cvs or walgreens turns up empty tomorrow I will head there.

        • Schametti says:

          Right? I wouldn’t have thought Lowe’s would be the place to stock up on gloves either, but they were there in the garden chemical section, (kinda makes sense really), so I was all.. Ooh! Yes, need! :)

  53. For preps this week the Lehmans order arrived with a pressure canner
    and an oil lamp .Spread manure in time before heavy rains. Frost tonight here-
    Wondered how many people in Boston wished they had had a gun for protection when the Bombers were on the prowl.
    Preparing for a big spring garage sale -hoping to buy a rototiller.
    Be well wolves….Bam Bam superb entry re: Pandemic Bird flu. Arlene
    parts 1 and 2.I am focusing more intensely now for that issue.

    • Arlene,

      Thank you for the complement. I was wondering the exact same thing–how many of those folks in Boston were wishing they were better prepared to defend their homes?

  54. Babycatcher says:

    Went to the LDS store for the first time, and bought about $150 worth of goodies. Next job( Mon) is to put it all up…Our new metal roof is finished! It was an insurance job from almost two years ago when unprecedented tornados ripped thru our area. Many people lost roofs, but we waited til the time almost ran out, so we could save up more before the installation. Now, to turn some income into PMs…God bless you guys, I am learning tons from you.

    • Babycatcher,

      It is not called the ‘LDS store’. It is the Family Home Storage Center.

      Latter-Day Saints fast one a month and donate the money that would have been spent on meals to build the building, purchase the canning equipment and purchase those supplies.

      It is not a retail store for preppers to purchase ‘goodies’.

      • ladyhawthorne says:

        Kate, a non-LDS person would not know that but thanks for the info, its pretty cool.
        Personally I think anywhere you can buy something is a ‘store’. and if it is run by LDS persons then ‘LDS store’ makes sense to me.

        • Lady Hawthorne,

          This is Kate’s pet peeve. The proper name is the Bishop’s Storehouse. They sell food to folks at cost. It’s part of the LDS charity network.

          • Isnt the pantry first and foremost to make sure the members have food if for whatever reason they are unable to buy their own?
            I know some of the missionaries are some wonderful people. I was helped out of a really rough situation by them, and it really shocked me just how far out of the way they went to help a stranger.

      • Babycatcher & Kate,
        I go to the local Bishops Storehouse about 4 or 5 times per year, and I do stock up on mostly long term shelf stable supplies. The folks that run the local storehouse known that I am not a church member and that I am a prepper. In fact, some long time local friends who are LDS members volunteer at the storehouse, as do most of the folks you see running the place. In my case the friends who retired a few years back accepted a 2-year mission to learn to manage the facility, the first year as assistants learning the job, and the second year acting as managers, and training the new folks. I would like to point out some things that I do in regard to the storehouse.
        1. Nearly all of the staff are volunteers, and the prices for the commodities you purchase are sold nearly at cost. Since I am not a member, and they are hospitable enough to let me use their facility, I always make a donation somewhere between 10-20% of my purchase price to their welfare fund. $20 donated there will result in feeding someone $20 (wholesale) worth of food, while that same $20 donated (well at gunpoint) to the government will result in feeding someone about $6.00 worth of food at retail. Even with a 20% donation the price, amount, and quality of food you get is still a deal
        2. When we make an appointment, we always plan to stay for extra time to volunteer our services while we’re there. Sometimes just helping a family that came in to do some canning, can get them packed up and out the door in a shorter time. The LDS folks are doing non-church members like me a large favor and paying it back with time or money is appreciated by them, and simply the right thing to do.
        3. The friends I spoke about earlier have convinced me that the best way to do the long term food storage (at least for the items available from the storehouse) is with the #10 cans. Although the food cost per measured unit (e.g., pounds) is a bit more, when you add up the cost of 6-gallon Mylar bags, O2 absorbers, 5-gallon food grade buckets, an your labor, the actual cost difference is minimal. Additionally you don’t have to open up 5 gallons of something and either use it up or reseal it, and if a seal goes bad or an O2 absorber fails to work, you only lose a single can, and not an entire bucket.

    • Babycatcher,

      Welcome to the Wolf Pack. Don’t worry we don’t bite–well everyone except Kate. LOL

      • Hey, I don’t bite!

        I merely point things out and try to give a complete picture of the situation!

        And besides, we all have Pet Peeves….

  55. KR Prepper says:

    Great week everybody.

    Beans
    Planted my 12×8 spinach, chard, chasers fav (lettuce) giant Ceasaer (lettuce) Roma, beefsteak (tomatoes) butternut squash, tongues of fire, garden (beans) red, yellow and white potatoes.

    Bullets
    Got my 20 hours of target practice. My hometown was hit by a series of heavy thunderstorms. I was out there, bow and alll. The rain doesnt make a difference

    Bought another half dozen carbon arrows from cabelas

    Bandaids,
    Set aside a cooler for medicine

    Fuel
    Had municipal gas turned off. The $700 a year could be better allocated elsewhere

    • KR Prepper,
      “Got my 20 hours of target practice?” WOW. Getting that much ammunition and time in the same week would beamazing all in itself.

  56. OregonMike says:

    Hi Pack,
    Very late entry this week. Built 2 more (#’s 10 & 11) raised beds.
    Planted 30 more pepper plants and a dozen tomato plants. Cukes, melons, squash and beans yet to plant. Also all tomato, pepper, and bean seedlings yet to plant. Canned 7 quarts of chicken (raw pack) to try and gain some freezer space. Need to do another 14 quarts to gain more. Made jerky but it doesn’t last too long. Bought a flat of marigolds to plant among the veggies. Merged 11 chick flock (9 week old) with our 10 hen (2 1/2 year old) flock. So far, so good. Still not looking for ammo until the price becomes reasonable. Have enough now to last for the first few waves.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      Ain’t that the truth about Jerky? I used to make up five or ten pounds of Jerky at a pop and it would usually be gone in a week or ten days. My ex-wife’s grandfather once ate an entire 5 pound bag, by himself, in a single evening. It’s a wonder he didn’t have a cardiac infarction right there on the spot!

      • Jerky is pretty healthy and low in fat , but I bet he didn’t have a bowel movement for at least a week!

        • hvaczach says:

          Five pounds of jerky about fifeteen gallons of water to replace fluids jerky pulled out I bet he didn’t go past a pisser either.

    • Mystery Guest says:

      All of you:
      Have done nothing but laugh.
      Listen it doesn’t take much to stop up the plumming on an old person. But man 5lbs of jerky. It’s a wonder he didn’t explode and you have to be investigated.

  57. Suburban Housewife says:

    I am finally getting back into the swing of things. All of the stress and activity leading up to my mom passing has really taken a toll on my health so I’ve been sort of hiding out and taking it easy – trying to take care of myself. Finally feeling a little stronger and energetic – Yay me!

    Bought 2 blueberry bushes, some herbs and a fuchsia. Can’t eat the fuchsia but it makes me happy to look at it. DH hacked at the ground trying to dig a hole to plant stuff – he might as well have hacked at the sidewalk. I guess I’m going to have to buy pots for everything.

    Ordered a variety of elderberry products and am on the prowl for an elderberry bush again (and probably a pot for it).Searched for an elderberry bush last season too. No one seems to sell them around here – they say they don’t grow well in this area, but I know some people have them.

    I’ve been cooking from my food stores and working on organizing stuff. Cleaned out my closet and cut my wardrobe in half. Want to cut it in half again. It feels really good – it’s freeing. “Less is more”

    DH rearranged the garage so we can set up a plywood “target” to practice knife throwing. That will be fun. Still trying to get rid of junk and replace it with preps.Sometimes I’m not sure which is which. Being an artist I see potential in EVERYTHING! LOL.

    I do wonder how people organize, inventory, categorize and keep track of the stuff they have – and how to prep without being a hoarder. I am kind of “if I can’t see it – it doesn’t exist” – stuff that gets pushed to the back of the refrigeration stays there forever -I think it’s purpose is to keep more stuff from getting shoved to the back I guess. Same with stuff in the garage – Seriously – if I can’t see it – I will completely forget about it.

    Several weeks back I bought software (Food Storage Planner) which is actually awesome. DH and I spent considerable time and inventoried all our food in the garage and entered it into the software. Great! I’m gonna get super organized! Right?

    So I also rescued a little 6 yr old Yorkie when I was in Ohio, flew her back here to SoCal, only to have her and my old girl Min Schnauzer not get along. She kept attacking the old girl. Hang with me – there is a point to this :-)
    So I’m sitting on the sofa with my lap top on my lap when the Yorkie flies across my lap/computer and launches an attack on the old girl causing me to jump up dropping my computer on the floor- and then stomp on it as I was breaking up the dog fight.

    The result? New hard drive and all my work down the drain! All of the articles I had saved – everything – gone. Back to square one.. I am seriously considering a cloud type back up now – even though I don’t trust them. Any suggestions out there? the only one I’ve heard of is Carbonite – but I really haven’t done any research on this yet.

    The good news? The dogs are getting along better and better. The Yorkie is adorable – but knows NOTHING! Supposedly she was a breeder in a puppy mill type situation. She’s not housebroken, doesn’t know any commands or anything. But she wants to please is trying hard to learn. She is so darn cute.

    Today we drove almost 100 miles (round trip) to a Strawberry Festival – turned out to be a couple of food trucks, a couple of vendors and one farm stand. Eggs were $8/doz! We did get 12 pints of organic strawberries for $20. We were there maybe 10-15 mins. We ran out of things to see or do. (Sigh) – we just laughed.
    Tomorrow I start making strawberry fruit leather for sure.. the grandkids are coming soon – they love it!

    And Bam-Bam – thanks again for your flu info – I too have elderberry stuff on order.

    One more thing – I started an herbal tincture months ago – the directions was to shake it every day for 3 weeks(which I did) then pour into bottle – well that was months ago -I got busy with my mom – and it got put inside a cabinet where I didn’t see it and so forgot about it. Do you think it is still good? I used Everclear – can it go bad? I’m hoping it’s just a “super” tincture and not spoiled – what do you think?

    • KR Prepper says:

      Hey there. Sorry about to computer. I run a recording studio, so I know how a loss of data can bite you (npi) I wouldnt do the cloud. Check out microcenter in MN (they’re online) and pick up some older nib drives. Keep ur data close

      • what about multiple thumb drives or a back up drive just for storage then it doesn’t have to be “out there”.

        • I agree with hvaczach. Thumb drives, especially non brand name one sold by places like Micro Center as well as SD and MicroSD cards are inexpensive, and the MicroSD when removed from the SD carrier is extremely small, and hide able if required. These come in sizes up to 16GB at reasonable prices, and up to 64 or 128GB for quite a bit more money.
          Your other option is an external USB drive. I have several I bought at our local Micro Center, and you can get a 2TB drive, in a case, with a wall wart power supply for somewhere around $100. We’ve reached the cost point where picking a smaller drive saves little or no money.
          Finally, if you’re worried about personal information, you can get a thumb drive like the Corsair Padlock 2, which contains built in hardware encryption, and keys on the side to enter your PIN.
          I use all of the above methods.

    • Suburban HW, sorry to hear of your moms passing. Prayers to your family.

      As for the hard drive – did you have a back up? Download ALL your files to a thumb drive, external hard drive, and disc. Multiple backups. Keep them safe.

      And if you can, one printout. I know printing a 300 page article is tough and expensive (ink),but for handiness can’t be beat. just make sure it is 2 sided.

      I’d hate to have to replace my “found knowledge”! Good luck.

      • Survivor says:

        One thing you can do is peruse the article and clean out the useless information, advertisements and other garbage before you print. You might find that 300 page article reduced a bit..

        • survivor good suggestion – I do that cause I hate to waste the paper and ink. I do thoiugh, keep the name and copyright so I know where it came from. Thanks for the reminder!

    • Check web for elderberry bushes, i.e. Raintree. More and more seed catalogs list them, i.e. Territorial. Just be sure to buy more than one variety. Most places offer two of different varieties for pollination for a slightly lower price.

    • your tincture should be ok, just a little more potent than it would normally be. I have let some go 3-4 months and they have been fine. Some actually strain after 3-6 weeks and add the tincture to more herb to increase the strength. I would just use a little less than the “recommended dosage”.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
        I actually do have a back up drive – which I haven’t used for the past year or two – since all of the family crises and chaos. I don’t think much of my prepping stuff got back up. I can never find the darn thing either – same with thumb drives – too little – practically invisible to me. What I really need is some self – discipline I guess! LOL.

        BUT – I do have Drop Box on all of my devices – maybe if I started using that and keeping all my prepping files in Drop Box – then I could access them from any device. What do you think? Is Drop Box fairly safe? Drop Box must be some sort of cloud type of thing thogh to – right? I have never heard of a nib drive- I will check it out.

        And printing – I did start a binder a while back and I think I know where it is – so I will be more diligent about printing stuff and getting it in the binder too.

        Glad to hear my tincture is OK – I have decanting it on today’s to-do list.

        Thanks again all – very helpful. I’m going online shopping for an Elderberry bush or two now – hope they will grow in pots too.

    • Suburban Housewife, your tincture should be fine, as long as all the plant material was covered by the alcohol. Carefully pull it out and open it. If any of it looks moldy or if it has an off smell, then toss it.
      Your tincture really wont be any stronger, even though it has been sitting for a while. There is only so much the alcohol can extract. In order to make it stronger you would need to strain the old plant material and add new.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        thanks TG – I am going to take care of it today and see what it has turned into.

    • Suburban Housewife,

      Yes, the tincture is absolutely fine–pardon the pun.

    • It’s GREAT tincture. Don’t worry about it. It’s usually a minimum of 2-6 weeks, but you usually don’t ever have to decant it if you don’t want.

  58. Survivor says:

    Had to scratch my plans for the bucket garden for the time being. I’ll see about planting in June. We have a long growing season here. I’m being called out of town by my employer for a few months. They’re sending me to Montana so will have to figure out my escape route back home. It’s times like this when I’m glad the DW had me purchase my hiking GPS.
    I scored three more 55 gallon drums for my irrigation system. Five down, 10 to go. I mowed grass and collected the trimmings for the compost bin/pile. I shared out some heirloom seeds to a few friends who will in turn save and share seeds.
    I finished my trotline just in time to NOT use it. I was looking forward to that as well. Oh, well!!

    • Survivor:

      Montana is easy. There are 2 roads East and West and 2 North and South. One of each is a freeway. The other is 2 lane. If you haven’t been here before just remember it’s a long way between people. Don’t leave town without at least 1/2 a tank of gas!

      I just came back from Washington last night. It was 31 at the border, snowing and slushy once we crossed into Montana. And got colder as we went. The trip from Spokane usually takes about 5 hours. It took 7. I finally hit clear roads about an hour from home, and it only lasted 25 miles. Back to snow and icy roads.

      Normally you would just need coat/hat/gloves and some extra food and water in the car with you, this time of year. Now it’s a full winter kit.

      Saw 2 cars that lost it, into the center (grass) of the highway. One broke up the undercarriage bad, the other ate the protective rails in front of a bridge abutment. Didn’t look like anyone was seriously hurt, just lost attention for a couple of seconds at excessive speed.

      So, welcome and have some fun while your here!

      • Survivor says:

        Thanks JP! I’m gonna be there for about two months living in a hotel and eating restaraunt food. Nay biggie, I use the perdiem money to upgrade preps and equipment.

        • Kelekona says:

          Survivor, remember that grocery delis often have cheaper food than restaurants, and hotel ice is free if you can get a cooler in there. I don’t remember how much the salad bar is, I think a full pound of salad for the price of a smaller one at McD’s.

  59. k. fields says:

    Attended a couple of big parties today (4/20 – northern CA and Earth Day weekend) which were loads of fun and I got to pretend it was all on account of my birthday!
    Was honored to be asked to sit in for a while with the band playing at this evenings’ get together – such fun for an old guy like me. Still can feel the contact high from a full day billowing with smoke but I must admit that the queasiness I usually experience from the chemo drugs is a lot less than normal tonight.

    The past week here was all about the 3 little pigs – purchased 3 weaners last Monday to help dig the gardens, clean up the food scraps, drink the extra milk, etc. They have required a lot of time to get acclimated – every unfamiliar sound, day or night, would sent them running and squealing – but they sure are cute.

    Weather has been warm and dry and predicted to continue, so I can finally get the winter wheat crop in this coming week. The cool weather gardens are still producing, a good bit of the summer gardens are now fully planted, and am finally getting fresh milk again! Things are good here.

    Be sure to do something in your community to celebrate Earth Day!

  60. Hannibal says:

    We watched an old TV show on Netlfix called JERICHO. Post nuclear attack survival. Seasons 1 & 2 are available there & on iTunes. I know it’s 6 or 7 yrs old and was canceled in Season 2, but what a good way to you wrap your head around how society & survivors will act when times get desperate & food, water and other resources are scarce. DW & DD loved it.

    Worked on the FJ, gettin’ her ready for whatever comes our way. I added a 2″ trailer hitch receiver that I got for free and some exterior rear facing lighting. RIGID makes great LED Floods and spots.

    Started selling off old gear & stuff around the house & will use the $ for new preps and more FJ parts.

    Bought more ammo, found some 12g slugs for $7, box of 5.

    Found some acreage w/ it’s own well and septic already installed. It has a small cabin, (maybe 400 sqft) a satellite dish installed and a small warehouse bldg. w/ a large loft bedroom & bathroom & what appears to be a HAM radio antenna tower on the roof. Plus a wood burning stove. All it needs is a good OTG solar power system. & it’ll make a great BOL or retirement place. It has lots of trees and room to grow our own, close to fishing and hunting. Making arrangements to go view it a.s.a.p.

    • The DH and I watched that show too and we really enjoyed it too. It did raise our anxiety levels though but got us to thinking more specifically.

    • I thought that show was pretty good and explored some of the actual issues that may arise in a total collapse.

    • Schametti says:

      I think I’ve only barely heard of this Jericho series, but it sounds like I need to watch it. Does it at least end well? (I don’t mean happy, but if it got canceled.. does it end semi- “complete” or cliffhangerie?). If it has a proper ending, I have some ITunes money from Christmas I still haven’t used, and would love to get something prepper-ie-related. :)

      • Kelekona says:

        Jericho is the reason I’m here. I liked the first season, but couldn’t get into the direction of the second. Didn’t even get to the cuts off. Try Hulu or Crackle before paying for it.

      • It does end at a reasonable spot and doesn’t leave you hanging. While the subject is serious and quite intense at times, there is a little humor built into the storyline – much like life. We found it on Netflix.

        • Schametti says:

          Awesome. I’ll definitely look into trying to watch it then. I would be mad if I started watching it, and it just… stopped, lol.

          I started watching this really cool new series a month or so ago.. Was TOTALLY sucked into it.. and it was canceled after three episodes. I was soooooo bummed, and STILL wonder what happened to the people, lol.. (It was called Zero Hour, I think), Very good premise. I guess there just aren’t enough people out there intelligent enough to follow along with a complex plot. If it’s not The Kardashians.. people just don’t care, lol.

          • Kelekona says:

            There is a new show that Scyfy is advertising, didn’t watch it yet… but the first two episodes are now on the website. It’s called Defiance.

            It seems post-apocalyptic and violent.

            • Kelekona,
              I also hope Defiance works out. I have the first two episodes DVR’ed and will probably wait for at least one more until I start to watch. Too many decent shows that get going and die out, especially in this genre.

            • Defiance is good. It is connected to a video game so it will probably stay on. Watch it from the beginning though so that you understand what it going on.

          • Millie in KY says:

            I hate it when they do that! There was a fabulous one called Earth II about 15 years or so ago. OMGosh, it was so good and had Tim Curry as a very charming bad guy, so deliciously evil…http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/preppers-supply-list-for-economic-collapse/
            I was so hooked on it…and then it ended….I bought the series which I rarely do because it was so great.
            I’ll have to look up Jericho, I vaguely remember that one but think I was in school and got out of the habit of watching tv. I listen to Fox, now, the weather station and look for interesting movies or other things but really there is not much out there that I find all that entertaining anymore. Thank the Good Lord I’ve never seen anything of BooBoo Honey Bear or whatever that child is called except a 30 second clip on youtube. :):):)

            • JeffintheWest says:

              I know! The mere thought of what that so-called woman is doing to that little girl is enough to turn my stomach. I only found out about it when I saw an episode of South Park in which they made fun of the mother….

            • Millie, I was thinking what is BooBoo Honey Bear, so I googled it. Aaaagh! Wth?! I am traumatized by a 2 min video clip!

              • Schametti says:

                Baaaha.. Honey BooBoo, actually. And her Mom, June, and her Dad, PapaBear, and her screwed up sisters.. Pumpkin, Chickadee and Chubbs… LOL. (Oh, and can’t forget about the new baby.. the sixteen year old sister just had.. Baby Kaitlynn, who has two thumbs on one hand, lolol). Yes, I watch the show from time to time. It makes me feel better about my life, like Hoarders.. My Strange Addiction, and What’s Eating You. All hilarious..

                • JeffintheWest says:

                  Hoarders freaks me out too. I’ve caught about five minutes (total) of various episodes of that show — most recently of someone apparently cleaning a hoarder’s house out holding up a dead and dessicated rat of considerable size, and that is enough to give me nightmares.

                  In a sense, I guess all of US are hoarders too, but at least we maintain some organization and cleanliness and only hoard things we’ll actually USE as opposed to copies of Life magazine from the 1950’s or empty cardboard boxes squashed flat and slowly rotting.

                  • Kelekona says:

                    I don’t think there is a good comparison between preppers and hoarders, especially since one is a learned behavior and the other resembles OCD. Preppers have a different definition of need, possibly defined by believing that the Great Depression will happen again.

                    I am a hoarder in that I honestly get uncomfortable without a certain amount of stuff around me. But I recognize that many of my collections are “full” and I honestly am trying towards a state of knowing where everything is and how to get to it.

                    • JeffintheWest says:

                      I think it truly is a matter of perspective. To some people, I would probably seem a hoarder since I accumulate things like food and fishing line and paracord and firewood…. To others, I’m merely careful. I think it’s fairly clear when someone has passed from “hobby” to “obsessed” in these matters, but I suppose the impulse is there in all of us to one degree or another (I’m recalling George Carlin’s riff on “stuff” from a couple of decades ago here…). Still, I call a hoarder someone who goes through the trash and extracts used (and empty) insulin pen needle injectors and saves them for some inscrutable purpose…. To me, that’s OCD quality hoarding right there.

                  • Schametti says:

                    I watch just as many or more shows on the history channel too. I just like a little variety and balance in my life. I’m happy being on the computer, reading here, researching things, and having something on the TV. I might not be focused on it every second, but I multi-task, lol..

                    My Mom calls me a Hoarder, (she doesn’t mean it in a BAD way, but I still hate it). I loathe clutter. My house i picked up, (well except for my boys dragging out their dog toys all day and night long, that I have to pick up daily, lol), but my shelves have just the right amount of things, stuff is put away or where I think it should be.. But I have one closet full of prepping supplies, and that makes me a hoarder. Ergh, I don’t think so..

                    • JeffintheWest says:

                      The”History Channel.” Hehehe. Around here we refer to it as the Myth Channel since all they seem to have on any more are “reality” shows of dubious merit, and speculation on ancient aliens. My favorite “catchphrase” from the History Channel? “Some people say…” as if that makes it legitimate. Can you tell I hold degrees in history here? ;-)

                    • JeffintheWest,
                      Well there’s always the Sci Fi channel, where you’re likely to see the WWE. No science but lots of fiction. I actually get most of the good history shows now on National Geographic and Military channels. Some day to save money we may completely eliminate our satellite subscription, and many of these channels are making it easier by the day.

                    • Jeff, hehehe, I just switched it over to H2 and they had someone who theorized that the spanish flu was because of aliens….
                      Oh, now they are talking about space bacteria.

                • All I can say is wow, the things people entertain themselves with. Then again, I am sure many people think my entertainment of documentaries is weird. To each their own I guess.

                  • True but I’ll take the History Channel over most “reality” shows too. One problem – I dropped to basic cable and they won’t let me keep it.

                    • I prefer the History Channel to any of the so called reality shows. I have really cut back on how much TV I watch. Mostly I am on here reading people’s comments! :)

                    • Kelekona says:

                      A quick look at XMBC, we get PBS, DIY network, Documentary.net, Hulu is broken, TIME.com, HowStuffWorks.com….

                      And you never know what is out there breaking copyright unless you’re looking. It’s not all Naruto.

              • Millie in KY says:

                TG, that was probably the same clip that I saw and hurt my eyes on. I have never watched the show. It’s white trash at its worst.

  61. Orwellian States says:

    This week was busy. 1. I planted onions, taters, and cabbage in the garden. 2. I purchased 24 tomato plants and 50 pepper plants to go in next week. Got a little carried away with the peppers. 3. Did some work on the 8N tractor, 4. Purchased some .308 for the Enfield and 7.62×39 for the Russian SKS. I buy some for various firearms whenever I get off the mountain. 5. Add some cans of various items to the stock, 6. Filled some 5 gal. cans for the fuel reserve, and &. purchased some “junk” silver and a 1/4 oz gold maple leaf. I am so glad spring is here. Winter was so wet and dreary in East Tennessee – can’t wait to work in the garden.

    • riverrider says:

      308 for an enfield?

      • Yep, 308. Some of the Enfields were rebarrelled when sportsterized.

        • Much easier to come by most of the time than the .303 british.

        • riverrider says:

          yeah i had one years ago, it was called an ishapore, made for the indian police. but i haven’t seen any in a long time. wanted to make sure somebody didn’t try n use the wrong ammo in it.

          • Thomas T. Tinker says:

            Got one River. The Ishapore.. Indian Royal Arsenal… was produced until 1968 from the ground up as a 308. It was the last commercially built 308 for the military. India needed a 308 to satisfy NATO requirements and as they had all the tooling…. most of it… they machined a receiver, produced a new bolt and fitted it with a new 12 round box mag and stock. It is a solid shooter as long as you don’t want to take a long shot. Mine is the carbine model and it is a great ‘stash’ weapon. SHingTF…. I could live with it.

  62. Millie in KY says:

    I never think I get much done until I go and make a list and then think “WOW!”…
    I ordered another 8 pack of grains from EE in the superbuckets. I had a bit of extra money and so now we should have enough grain to go for a year.
    I found an ad on the Bowling Green, KY craigslist for a guy in middle TN who had fruit trees for sale, 60 of them for $500. I called, he said he could sell less for $10. each. Great looking trees, so I took a trip down yesterday and got 2 concord grapes, 2 Anna apples, 2 peaches, 2 pears. That should be enough for us with the other trees that we have.
    I have been collecting recipes like crazy, mostly one pot things (crock pot) that I think will be transferrable to a Dutch oven.
    I also orders a few thornless raspberries, 200 strawberries and 6 small hazelnut trees.
    For fun, I ordered an incubator, as long as we have power, I can at least raise some chicks for trading, eating or egg laying. In the meantime, it will help to repopulate my flock which was decimated by foxes last fall (they seem to have moved on, thankfully) and the occasional hawk. I have the fertilized eggs. And the cost was about the same as ordering 20 or 30 more chicks. So what the heck, I’ll give it a try!
    Lastly, I had a job interview this week. I think it’s something I would enjoy and just a few miles from my house. Now if the pay will be decent and a bit of insurance, I would love it. Everyone please pray if this is the right job that I get it.
    This week, fish come in for the pond, will report on that adventure next week. And will be also getting half a dozen blueberry plants locally.
    The BB’s, raspberries will be going into raised beds and perhaps the hazel nuts, too. Strawberries are going into 6 upright PVC pipes with holes in it and a soaker hose in them.
    I have just about blown thru my bird money so will have to slow down as soon as I get the garden dirt in. Still looking for a load of that.
    Good prepping, everyone!

    • Millie, praying for you for the job. Good luck with those eggs, hope it works out.

    • Schametti says:

      Good luck with the job, Miss Millie. I’ll cross my fingers and say a prayer for you. Good luck with the babie chickies. I’m sooo jealous. I know I keep saying it and saying it, haha, but I so want chickens!!! I need to continue my search and hunt to see if I can convince my subdivision to let me have them, buy a coop, etc etc.

      I’m so jealous, the trees, the chickens, (I think you have adorable baby goats too?), and a fish pond, stocked! It sounds like you’ve got the perfect homesteader set up going on there. I think I need to move to Kentucky, and move in with you.. you can show me the gardening ropes.

      My girlfriends have found an eight bedroom house nearby, with forty acres and a pond, etc etc.. and they’ve been bugging me to look into it, and buy it for them, (Hahaa, right), but it sure does sound tempting. An old farm house with my best friends, and plenty of room to prep.. probably a pipe dream, at best, but I might have to go take a look at the place anyway, just for fun.

  63. Just got back from teaching half an Appleseed. I did a lot of karate this week, and made my own beef jerky. Got a few shirts at the thrift and also dropped off some stuff I didn’t want anymore there, so a tiny bit of decluttering. Bought an old army poncho liner. It smells though – the old school ponchos smell like barf and it seems to have seeped into the liner too so I have to wash it. I am hoping to make a pouch for it and attach that to my go bag (just call me Linus). I’m not sure in retrospect how useful it will be, but my sleeping bag is bright yellow and way too bulky to hike with, so this is just another option.

    • One other thing, I’m watching the elderberry tree in one of the public park gardens around here, to get some fruit when it finally makes fruit. I already have elderberry syrup, gloves, masks, immodium, plastic sheeting, etc. A squirrel cage fan might be a good addition – see alpharubicon.com for a fan in an ammo can idea for your safe room.

      For coughs, you can use plantain (that weed with the spike) or mullein in a tea. With a lot of garlic, I would say, too.

      Elderberries are good for boosting the immune system but if this is a flu with cytokine storm action you might not want to boost your immune system any more. Garlic might be a better idea for combatting that kind of flu. Will have to look it up and see which kind it is.

      • worrisome says:

        Penny Pincher, if and when you do follow up on the cytokine storm angle, would you please let us know? That will be important if we are ever in a pandemic for this one. I understand that there are over 100 cases now and some 20 have died. That is a 20% loss ration, not good!

        • JeffintheWest says:

          You are right about that!

          By comparison, the Spanish Influenza of 1918-1919 had a fatality rate of roughly 2% and still managed to kill an estimated 50 million people world wide. This one, if it takes off, will kill 10 times as many people out of a population that is roughly double what it was a century ago — that means you can expect a minimum of 1 billion deaths if it spreads as quickly and efficiently as the Spanish Flu did.

          Again, to compare, the Black Death (Bubonic Plague) killed roughly 22% – 23% of the world’s population in the middle ages, killing about 100 million people out of an estimated 450 million world population at that time. (For the record, H5N1 (the last bird flu scare) had a fatality rate of nearly 80% based on a very limited statistical base, but it seems to not be such an issue any more.)

          • JeffintheWest,
            The Spanish Influenza and the Bubonic Plague both occurred in the pre-sterilization, pre-antibiotic age, when the mortality of even a simple infected cut was high. Today’s antibiotics are very effective against plague, and medications like Tamiflu appear to be effective against the newest influenza strain. One thing that kills people with the flu is ancillary infections like pneumonia, for which we have effective treatments.
            I’m not blowing this off, but as preppers we need to be realistic, and attempting to divine numbers from diseases in the past, must take in to account modern medicines and medical technique, including such things as quarantine and a more general awareness of the public to these diseases.

  64. FreeRangePagan says:

    Hello Pack!
    We’re wrapping up the season here, so work has been about all I’ve been doing this month.

    The best prep I’ve gotten done is that Lady has decided to prep!!! We made a list for her and now I’m slowly adding an item a week or so. She’s more on the zombie-ready side of it but I’l take it. She’s got a multitool and a sleeping bag so far. Also, she’s got a new job!

    I’ve gotten another 2 litres of water put up, I’m almost out of room on the shelf. Picked up a bunch of candles at a rummage sale, and a few books on natural cooking, solar greenhouses and sausage making.

    Can anyone recommend a good meat grinder? Lady and I have decided to get one before summer really starts.

    That’s about it, keep safe everyone!

    • Good Job FRP!
      Glad the Lady has decided to come on board. Zombies are a great way to scare someone into becoming a prepper!
      I have all kinds of meat grinders. I have used the old time metal food grinders that clamp onto a table.Must have alot of patience and helpful cranking arms.
      I have the kitchen aid attachment grinder that goes on the front of the mixer. Works great. About 80.00 if you have a heavy duty kitchenaid already.
      I have had the cheap plastic one from Walmart. This does OK if you go slow. You can’t try to push the meat through. It will heat up after about 30 minutes.
      Of course the stainless industrial models are the way to go if you can find and afford it. Cabelas has some nice ones but they are pricey. You get what you pay for right?
      Slightly freezing the meat is helpful so I goes through the burrs easier. The soft fat can gum up the grinder sometimes.

      • JeffintheWest says:

        I’ve been thinking about rigging mine so that I can set up a stationary bike and use it to crank the meat grinder — it’s actually designed to allow that to be done, but I need to get a few parts — and a kitchen! Plus having a stationary bike in the kitchen would be all too exciting for the lady of the house, I’m betting…. ;-)

      • Audrey Druse says:

        Mama J,
        I am not sure if you will see this but I thought it was worth a try. I have tried to pressure can ground beef from the store. I fried it up and hot packed it, processed it 75 min for pints. When trying it later the meat was almost mush. I was wondering if I used the grinder with a larger grind (3/8″ holes) if that would help. Or if purchasing the chili grind from the store would fix the problem. If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it. The idea of having ground hamburger for so many different dishes appeals to me.
        Thanks for your help and all the info you share with us.

        AIA

    • FreeRangePagan says:

      MamaJ- Thanks! Maybe I’ll start with the cheap one and see how it goes from there. I think I’d like the hand crank one, I’m trying to get things that don’t require electricity, both for the cost and if the power goes out.

      Jeff- that’s an awesome idea. Wish I had room for it.

  65. Schatzie Ohio says:

    UGGH! This morning at about 5:00 AM the husband let our GSD out and she promptly mixed it up with a skunk.

    I decided to make a “shoe” box and used a small plastic tote to include:
    shoe horn
    laces for shoes and boots
    tube of Shoe Goo
    shoe brush
    trimable insoles
    spray Scotchguard
    leather shoe cream
    Sno Seal

    It will be important to keep your shoes in good shape if/when SHTF.

    • hmm….. I may have to look into something like this… I can honestly say that ‘shoe maintenance’ has not been on any of my lists of things to get – well other than extra laces. Thanks for the ideas!

  66. Surviving in Ky. says:

    Hello Pack and MD, I haven’t posted in a while due to work and projects. I hope everyone is doing well. I did manage to add to the preps and get a little more organized.
    Replaced an old gun cabinet with a closet style cabinet.
    340 rds. of 150 gr. 30/06
    250 rds. .357 mag.
    30 rds. .44 mag snake shot
    Gun smithing punch set
    Gun cleaning pick/brush kit
    Under seat storage box for pickup (for prying eyes)
    10 Thermold 30 rd. .223 magazines (ordered in Dec.)
    1 8 rd. .44 mag. magazine
    Patched a leaky roof building
    Cleaned out the flower beds
    Organized out building
    Well that’s about it besides several projects around the house. Hope everyone has a great week! Prayers for all the folks in Boston and those affected by the bombing as well as the folks of West, Tx. You all are in our thoughts. Let us never forget how quickly life can change and always be on guard. Watch your six and God Bless!

  67. Found an interesting article about vaccinations that includes a 2-page printable (to help a parent analyze whether a specific vaccination is appropriate for a particular child at a given time).

    http://www.nourishingjoy.com/a-common-sense-guide-to-vaccines/

    The article also has quite a number of sources listed, for those interested.

    • Lantana, thanks, my kids are vaccinated, but every time I have to take them in I worry about it. These diseases are nothing to play around with but at the same time they have a lot of toxic stuff in those vaccines.

      • TG,
        You stated, “they have a lot of toxic stuff in those vaccines.”. Can you name some of the stuff? The Doc in our MAG isn’t worried about the contents.

        • Three off yhe top of my head, formaldehyde, murcury, snd aluminum. Different vaccines have different things as a preservative. If this is something that concerns you, you can look up the ingredients online for each vaccine.

        • Actually they do not have “a lot of toxic stuff”. They may have very small amounts of a substance that if the dose were large enought may prove to be toxic.
          Stop and think for a moment. Ask yourself “why would they want to poison people”? Do you really think they are monsters or what?

          • Ron, I actually do think they mean to poison us. The vaccines do contain those ingredients, no one disputes that. But here is the issue. Kids are given something like 28 vaccines before the age of 6. Most of it is in the first year. Now each of those has been proven safe by the fda (for those who actually trust what the fda says), but the safety of the vaccines together hasnt been tested.
            Now, I am all for keeping our kids healthy, and like I said my kids are vaccinated, but most parents have no clue about their options when it comes to vaccinations.
            Like Arlene stated above, you can ask for the preservative free vaccines, you can also do a delayed schedule, you can choose not to vaccinate, or you can choose to keep the schedule that the cdc has outlined. It is a matter of making an educated choice.

            • TG,
              Who are “they” and why do “they” want to poison anyone?

              • Ok, that was me wearing my tinfoil hat. Taking it off, I dont think “they” are trying to poison anyone. With that said I do think that “they” (being the people who make money off of vaccines and other pharmaceuticals aka big pharma) dont give a hoot about people. Maybe they started out that way, but now it is more about being accountable to the share holders. Just my 2 cents…

              • Kelekona says:

                The poisoning aspect makes a lot more sense if you go with “just happens to be poison” rather than poisoning was the aim.

                Let’s say that someone in the lard industry wanted people to think lard was good for them, and then found ways to enhance the flavanoids in lard so that they liked the idea that lard was good…

                Then they find that lard was bad, or that one or more of the processes used to make lard-gathering more efficient was bad…

                Or people just stopped liking the pale color of the meat by-product, meaning that the entire industry had to do something to preserve profits if a side-business suffered.

                • Kelekona,
                  “Then they find that lard was bad . . .”
                  This one miught be a bad example since lard is defintely not good for us, although it is marginally better than oils with transfacts. LOL

                • Kelekona, your right, I stated it badly. Although your comment makes me think of crisco…
                  Ohio prepper, the lard being bad for you depends on the people you talk to. There are s bunch of people who very much believe that lard (from sustainably raised animals- not the cafo animals) is a healthy fat.

            • ” I actually do think they mean to poison us”. I dont suppose you have a theory on the motivation for them to be poisoning us?

              “The vaccines do contain those ingredients, no one disputes that”. Nor do I. I am trying to point out that its the dose, not the substance, that is the poison.

              • Ron,
                I agree. Formaldehyde was mentioned as an ingredient, and according to the lists of ingredients for common vaccines I have from the CDC (in pdf) that is correct; however, a quick search of “foods containing formaldehyde” list a large number of fruits, vegetables, and meats, all containing some amount of naturally occurring formaldehyde. If you stop eating and drink enough water, that will poison you also, due to an imbalance of electrolytes. It comes down to making an educated choice after being properly informed
                How about cyanide? According to the Agency for toxic substance and disease registry: “In certain plant foods, including almonds, millet sprouts, lima beans, soy, spinach, bamboo shoots, and cassava roots (which are a major source of food in tropical countries), cyanides occur naturally as part of sugars or other naturally-occurring compounds. However, the edible parts of plants that are eaten in the United States, including tapioca which is made from cassava roots, contain relatively low amounts of cyanide.” Low amounts of cyanide, which means again that we should not panic, just be educated.

                • Ohio Prepper, that is all true enuff! Look at your fingernails. See white lines? Thats your body getting rid of excess cyanide. Some parts of the southwest have naturally high levels of cyanide in the water. Since moving east my nails have lost almost all of the white lines.

              • Ron and Ohio Prepper, your right the dose does matter. But what worries me is how much is too much. Like I said above kids get something like 28 vaccines now, not counting the flu vaccine, which is a lot. They have never done a study on the safety of all the vaccines together, they are instead studied individualy. They also tend not to study the vaccines for long term effects.
                The fda lets the companies do the studies and as long as the company says its safe, all is good. Well, the companies are more interested in getting paid so as long as it appears to be safe lets push it fast. I know that there are trials that studies the immediate safety, but how long do those studies last.
                My theory is that big pharma is not interested in health care, sick care is what keeps the money rolling in.
                Any which way, I think we all agree that education is key.

                • TG my friend, All I can say is maybe you are seeing evil where evil does not exist. I have not heard of any massive die offs of children in this country.

                  • Ron,
                    And in facxt, our lifespan keeps getting longer, even with all of those chemicals being used in the foods (or just perhaps, because of them).

                    • OhioPrepper, I just got a crazy image of bodies being found in a couple hundred years perfectly preserved from all the food preservatives they have eaten.

                    • Kelekona says:

                      XXX Holic: Kei , episode 7, how much truth is in the fiction. I think I believed before that modern people wouldn’t rot as fast.

                      As far as vaccines being poison. Which childhood mental problems are on the rise? Correlation between later birthdays and ADHD diagnoses within a classroom.

                      I’m glad that polio has been wiped out, at least. And I’m effed-up without the full spectrum of vaccines.

                    • I have actually heard that they do not need to use as much chemicals during the embalming process as they did years ago – the reason being all the chemicals we currently having in our bodies. How accurate I don’t know as it is a bit of trivia I picked up years ago.

                    • TG,
                      So they find perfectly preserved bodies of 80 year old people vs. completely disintegrated bodies of 40 year old people. I’d personally rather be in the first category, and in fact, how many of us would already be dead at our current age had we been born a mere 100 years sooner.

                    • OhioPrepper, cant say which I would go for…. hows the quality of life in both options? I *think* I would choose quality over quantity. But then again I have never been faced with my own mortality, so at that time my choice may be different.

                    • As Grace Slick once sang (back in the early 70’s) “Maybe the preservatives in your food are preserving you”?

                    • JeffintheWest says:

                      Kelekona: Only two diseases have been “wiped out” Smallpox and Rinderpest (a cattle disease). Polio is still infecting people, even here in America.

                    • TG,
                      Life back then was often described as harsh and short. Compared to today, where life is long, how harsh it is depends generally on the choices of the individual.
                      Quality of life however, really depends on your definition of it. To me, being relatively mobile and pain free and in reasonable health as I get older helps define it. Working with my critters, and garden, and spending time with real friends is another part of it. Some folks seem to think that if they have a 70 inch flat screen TV and I only have a 42 inch, that they have a higher standard of living. IMO it’s all about what makes you happy, especially in your golden years.

                    • OhioPrepper, I understand what you are saying, and that is pretty much what I was getting at. I wouldnt mind living to 80, or longer, if I can enjoy those years with my family. Quality of life for me isnt life without struggle or pain as that is a part of it, or by how much stuff I accumulate. For me it being able to enjoy my time here. Like I said, I have never been faced with my own mortality, and would like to think I wouldnt give up without a fight. But, I can think of a couple of instances where I dont think quantity would be better.

                  • Ron, no massive die offs that I know about either.
                    Perhaps I am paranoid about people injecting things into our kids. I know every time my kids get vaccinated I watch them like a hawk and spend weeks worrying about them. Then again I have had one with an allergic reaction.
                    On top of that not trusting the fda, and the money makers in big pharma.
                    I am by no means telling people not to vaccinate, but to know what is in those vaccines and to know the side effects.

                    • Well until someone can explain a rational motive for the willful poisoning of people I am not going to worry about these things.

                    • JeffintheWest says:

                      ron, the use of the word “rational” with the phrase “willful poisoning of people” seems to be a bit of an oxymoron.

                    • Encourager says:

                      With my firstborn, he had to have all his vaccinations at half dosages because he ran such a high fever and was so sick from them. It was a scary time.

                  • Kelekona says:

                    OhioPrepper,

                    this is what is wrong with not being able to conduct long-term organised studies on humans…. what do the preservatives do to a living body?

                    Of course, what’s right with not being able to do these studies taps into anything freedom related.

                    • Jeff,
                      the word rational is an attempt to remove the phrases, “I think” and “I feel” as justification for irrational conclusions.

                    • Kelekona – I just read about a study done by a high school student from Texas on the differences in fruit flies that are fed organic produce vs. those fed standard, chemical treated produce. The organic fruit flies were healthier through the generations. She started her exploration because she overheard her parents arguing over the price of organic vs. non-organic. Her parents buy organic and don’t worry about the price now.

                    • GA Red,
                      It would be good to see the actual data on that experiment. Assuming that the non-organic food actually did contain some sort of bad for you chemical, the dosage usually expressed in mg per kg could be infinitesimally larger when feeding the fruit to the fruit flies.
                      There have been too many “cancer scares” in the past where the human would have to ingest 20 gallons of diet soda (or other food) per day for 20 years to reach the cancer inducing dosage. I’m not saying that the experiment wasn’t a good one, put unless you know all of the facts; it’s hard to rely on the outcomes.

                    • Kelekona says:

                      OhioPrepper, look up some GMO experiments, including the French study on rats. I’m not sure if it is mentioned, but what are the chances that they got ahold of some RR strain without it being doused in pesticides?

                    • Agreed on the cancer scare. I grew up using saccharin (liquid first) then the study came out about it causing cancer in rats. I don’t use it now but we didn’t stop using it then because we considered the dosages for the size of the animals compared to humans.

                      On the other hand, in blind taste tests with my kids, the organic foods win every time. I have even begun to recognize the flavor difference in carrots. As long as I can afford it, I will buy more organically grown food than not.

                    • Kelekona,
                      “doused in pesticides?”
                      I’m not sure what you mean by this; however, we own a piece of a farming operation, and the only thing ever “doused” on the fields, is fertilizer, in the form of manure, for those who have animals. Any other chemical requires the operator to be certified to purchase and apply them, and since they are expensive, I don’t know anyone who uses more than absolutely required. Some larger farms actually use GPS to apply chemicals to the field based on where they are in the field based on the specifically pre-measured soil and plant conditions. I don’t know of anyone douesing anything.

                    • GA Red,
                      “the organic foods win every time. I have even begun to recognize the flavor difference in carrots”. Are you sure the difference in the flavor is organic vs. non-organically certified, or field grown (which I think most certified organic is), or is it the difference between field grown and hothouse and greenhouse grown. Especially in the off season, many fruits and vegetables are grown in green houses, and I personally don’t like those near as well. In our gardens, we use companion planting, but have been known on occasion to carefully use a little Sevin, which makes the plants non-organically certifiable, but doesn’t appear to modify the taste.

  68. Not much in preps this week except to get about $20 face value of junk silver. Woke up monday morn and saw that silver had dropped so went online to look at it and it took me about an hour just to place my order the site was running so slow. Was almost late for work but wanted to get it in .. Got home from work and was going to order some more 1 oz rounds but NONE AVAILABLE. I don’t really want to place an order and then wait a long time so will just have to be ready next time, will check out a couple coin stores and see what they have.

    Other than that got garden going and had to cover plants due to high winds and storm coming in then we have a frost warining so left them covered and yesterday took the buckets down and the rollypollys had eaten my cucumber plants down to nothing, did not touch anything else, so had to replant the cucmbers, oh well may have been early anyway.

    Will be interesting to see what happens to the bomber they have in custody and what the spin will be, and will be waiting to see if Glenn Becks statement will be something big or just more hoopla.

    • Schametti says:

      It seems that GBs points were mostly to do with the third suspect, the brains behind the operation, I guess. (That Saudi National that WAS to be deported, then all files/reports of him were wiped away, and they didn’t even deport him, they just.. let him go). It’s pretty infuriating, when the government KNOWS that he’s part of the bombing operation, but think he’s ‘too important’ to imprison.

  69. Picked up my second Hi-Point C-9, so now I have twins. Background check went from 3 days to 2 weeks. Not surprised. Scored a 100-round bag of ammo for $30. As soon as I got home, I [romptly managed to get a serious paper cut from a box edge — trigger finger, of course. Must be my guardian angel ’cause I ripped back half my fingernail three weeks ago; trigger finger. So, for some unknown reason (fate?), I’m being prevented from hitting the range and using ammo. Geez, I only want to use one box or so in a class.

  70. Over the last two weeks got 10 cans Bush’s baked beans, #10 can of cut green beans, 2 boxes of assorted bandaids, 8 cans of Sterno fuel and another small 6 inch sq stove-giving me three now-and bought some more junk silver quarters. Also started to prepare my raised bed gardens for planting but that’ll have to wait another two weeks or so. It was 23 degrees outside this morning here in SE Michigan. The weatherman is promising warmer weather in about a week or so. He must be talking to that stupid groundhog! Keep storing.

  71. Hi all. It’s been a while since I’ve posted much but still drop in every now and then to see what’s up. Between increasing anxiety and personal family junk, I haven’t had the time to keep up much. That said, we have kept prepping.

    1 12-pack of 8oz canning jars
    1 12-pack pint jars
    1 pack extra lids
    First-aid kit – 140 items for $6
    The DH found some bullets he wanted
    Garden planted
    Avocado tree repotted

    And the really biggie – the DH bought me an All-American pressure canner!!! You should have seen my face.

    We’ve also been doing some things to be better organized. I’m trying to buy a pack or two of canning jars every week or two as the budget permits. We are hoping for a good crop from the garden.

    I’ve also been helping one daughter with feeding herself and her fiancé. She understands prepping from the cost savings on food standpoint and is good at remembering prices for comparison shopping. I try to find foods she can use when I do my grocery shopping and we have made two huge pots of stew recently from leftovers I put in my freezer. They are growing a garden at his mom’s house too and plan to share some of what they are growing with me.

    • GA Red,

      Congratulations on the All American. I absolutely love mine.

      • I spent some time this evening reading about it. I’m most excited about being able to can soup that my daughter and I make instead of freezing it.

  72. hvaczach says:

    Not really a prep so much other than just prepping supper but got two racks of ribs on the smoker and boy do they smell good.

  73. Nickles, nickles, and more nickles… Sprinkle some long term food storage and that sums up my week.

  74. Thomas T. Tinker says:

    Sunny Sunday Pack..ers:

    Beans: 2 quarts of honey

    Bullets: 9 boxes of 22mag. shotshells…. cause that is all to be found in Toledo.

    Bandaids: Doxycycline. Tegaderm.

    Bullion: A little bit.

    Books. New addition of Merick Manual.

    Other. IDPA match this morning. Six strings of fire.. all mixed perp and NoShoots… point blank to 30 yards.

    Was just thinking…. Feds want to remove firearms from the public… they can’t.. so far. So they purchase the majority of domestic ammo production using Tax ‘contributions’ and digital money. Result.. no ammo to speak of and closing in on $17.000.000.000.oo in unpaid bills…..

    FYI… Gander Mountian receives it’s delivery of ammo every Thursday evening. It is stocked for the Friday opening… First come… First serve. Friday mornings, starting at about 5:30ish a.m. fools like myself start to line up for the ’10 box Friday sale’. At 9:00 a.m. the doors open. At… eh…. 9:20ish…. your outtaluck till next Friday unless you are one of the first dozen in the door. Missed the cut this week. Crappolla.

  75. Seeuncourt says:

    Still snowing here, but i finished the new and improved chicken coop and enclosure, incubated some eggs into chicks, and purchased a used rototiller (Honda f501). That should get the garden in as soon as the snow melts! Picked up a dozen canning jars on sale at the local hardware store. Repurposed some old pickup camper cabinets into “outside the coop” nesting boxes for the other chicken coop. They worked great! Knitted wool and alpaca mittens for next winter.

  76. Added to the “what did I do” list today. Hit the commissary for some deals. Canned pasta sauce (ok not the BEST tasting, but will do in a pinch) for 50 cents a can, condiments, peanut butter, jelly, and toothpaste. And the hubs found the magazines he was looking for at the PX. Not a bad week. I need to inventory and reorganize the food supplies soon.

  77. Bought a couple of boxes of ammo and took my grand daughter to the range to hone her pistol skills. She loves shooting and I just wish ammo would become more available for her to shoot. I purchased a new Ruger K III a few weeks ago for her to use and she loves it.

    • Yay for the granddaughter. I’m such a happy camper when I hear about the younger folks doing such things.

  78. I got a new dehydrator!!! I had one of those old snack master one with 4 trays, was loud and the cover was warped. Hubby and I went to cabelas yesterday, he got 5 boxes of ammo and I got a 80. Discount on the new toy!! Going to get lots more dried, yessir!
    Got the last of the micro waterers installed in garden, making more tomatoe cages out of reinforcing wire, had enought tubing left over to install waterers in herb garden, my dearest brought home another timer to break up the zones, so if we’re out of town I don’t need to rely on DD to water.. But suspect the grand kids wouldn’t let her!
    Now I have a question for our herbalists out there… I have a star jasmine vine about to explode into bloom and the honeysuckle is blooming. How can i make my own oils, tincture etc, same way as vanilla extract or what? Michele? Bambam? Help? This jasmine only blooms for a few days, been nursing it thru drought and I want to make some stinky stuff,, been totally stressed last few days, Boston and West… My SIL was about 30 miles from West and felt as well as heard it, Stepmom about 20 miles away didn’t hear or feel it…and some aromatherapy is in order…I even had a customer service chat girl from Amazon ask me about if I thought West was an attack when she realized I live in Texas. Just a terrible, terrible accident. But they did have ammonium nitrate stored there and they were only licensed for ammonium sulfite. Can you say lawsuit? Sure you can….
    My problem is what carrier to extract the essence.
    We got about 3 cords of oak split today, most gets used for ‘cue, but plenty for fireplace if power goes out in ice storm…..next winter!
    Hope oaks are done pollinating pecan comes next… Bleah! Sometimes I do wish our worst pollen season here wasn’t the winter!
    Hope and pray this week is better!

    • Depends on what you want.

      Honeysuckle tincture for asthma and breathing problems – fill a glass jar with the flowers (preferably picked early in the morning) loosely packed down. Fill with 80 to 100 proof vodka or brandy. Put the lid on, and shake it every day for two to six weeks. Strain out the flowers (or keep them in – your choice).

      Honeysuckle (or jasmine) for the pretty smell – can be obtained by putting the flowers in a jar, and covered with your choice of ‘carrier oil’, for me that is usually almond oil.

      You have a couple choices here, you can gently heat the oil with the flowers in it or not. You might want to try that with your jasmine since it only blooms for a few days, so you will not have the option of continuing to strain it out and adding more flowers after a few days to increase the fragrance.

      Pick your flowers early in the morning. Place them in a jar and barely cover them with your oil and gently shake them a couple times a day. For flowers that continue to bloom, you can leave them in a few days, strain them out, then pour your oil over a fresh batch until you have the strength you want.

      Also, I found on the web – gardenguides.com this method. I have never tried this, so cannot vouch for it either way.

      How to Extract Essential Oils from Honeysuckle Flowers

      A pleasant, sweet aroma makes honeysuckle flowers prized for their essential oils, which can be used in a variety of applications. Extracting essential oils from honeysuckle flowers involves a few kitchen utensils and approximately one hour of time.

      Step 1
      Fill the stockpot with a gallon of distilled water.

      Step 2
      Add three cups of honeysuckle petals and stamens to the pot of water.

      Step 3
      Place the bowl in the center of the pot of water. Make sure the water doesn’t overflow into the bowl. Remove a little water from the pan, if necessary.

      Step 4
      Place the lid of the stock pot, upside down, onto the pot. The knob-handle of the pot’s lid should hang inside of the pot once it is covered.

      Step 5
      Allow the pot to simmer on the stove for approximately 50 minutes.

      Step 6
      Fill the upside-down pot lid with ice. The ice causes the inside of the lid to condensate with honeysuckle essential oils which will drip from the knob of the pot lid into the glass bowl.

      • Thanks, ever so much Michelle!! Looked last night when taking scraps to compost pile, and a couple of blooms have already burst open, it’s so pretty as well as aromatic. I have a bottle of “sweet oil” but it’s pretty small. Combo of olive, almond and I think castor. It’s sold as a skin oil in the Hispanic section of most stores here. Now I don’t think I have three cups of honeysuckle flowers, but the question is, loosely or packed?

        • pack them in baby. more flowers, more scent

          • Encourager says:

            Michele, I absolutely love the smell of violets. Would I be able to capture the scent of them using this method? Also for Lily of the Valley?

            • Encourager, any flowers/herbs can be infused by oil or alcohol. Just try to use a light smelling oil (Michele said sweet almond and I have to agree, but apricot kernal, grape seed oil, and rosehip oil also works) as a stronger oil like olive would be a really hard smell to overcome.

  79. Melody H says:

    This week I got 2 more cans of powdered milk, 2 more freeze dried fruits, freeze dried cottage cheese and also smaller cans of butter powder and sour cream powder, to try. I hate the idea of buying a #10 can of something I might not like or use, so these two will be tested this summer. Have been researching a dehydrator, which I hope to have by mid-summer, to start practicing on so I’m ready for harvest season. I went to a newly opened Christian book store in this very rural area, and purchased 10 small New Testaments for 30% off! She was so happy for the business that she gave me a 20% off coupon for my pastor (because the new store was announced in the bulletin for the last month) I kept thinking of all the people without hope if an emergency happens then continues, and thought if they were me, I’d welcome a New Testament. I’ll buy some more when I’m able to afford them.

    • worrisome says:

      Melody, I made up some pails of supplies to give to people in case of big disaster. Clean wash rags, soap, toothbrushes and small tubes of tooth paste, shampoos and conditioners not used in hotel rooms i have stayed at. Also some oatmeal packets, rice packets, bouillon cubes, tea bags, matches, etc. I also dropped a new testament in each one…

    • Not to toot my own horn, but this might help with helping the needy.
      http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/putting-together-charity-packs-for-any-occasion/
      Many Blessings.,,,

      • Mama J, I was mia when this article was posted so just read it, I love your ideas. I have a lot of holes to fill in my own preps, this will help a lot for what I need and then if time permits for charity purposes. I am like you, I would adopt strays, especially kids.

  80. Hunker-Down says:

    We planted heirloom tomato and pepper seeds in pots, under grow lights in the basement.

    Gurnee sent our 12 hazelnut trees last week. The ground is frozen so I cant dig the holes. I cant leave them in the shipping container long enough to wait for the ground to thaw so I mixed peat moss, perlite and Wisconsin dirt in 12 five gallon buckets. Because the peat will draw moisture out of plants, I added (naturally) too much water to the buckets. To get the excess water out I put a towel over each bucket and flipped it over in the garden and let them drain for 2 hours. Finally, the buckets have a good moistened soil mixture for the trees. I just snuck those dirty towels into the washing machine and hope the DW isn’t paying attention to the dummy that has been carrying buckets in and out of the basement the last two days.

    It’s snowing again. Maybe I can dig the holes next week, nighttime temps still get down to 30. Winter sucks.
    We were supposed to plant peas and radishes last week but a snow bank still owns that spot.

    I hope the marathon bombing will wake up someone who will begin to think that maybe it would be a good idea to learn who the enemy is. Wearing politically correct blinders is getting us killed. We can never eliminate an enemy our government does not want to recognize. We must find out why.

    • riverrider says:

      we know why, he’s one of them.

    • Striking a balance between what this country has been and what our enemies are doing is a huge… maybe sticking point, debacle…?

      This country is mostly “could theoretically trace their line back to another country,” some more recent than others. Declaring the “protection” of Japanese-Americans during WWII to be subversive to the American way… Terrorists goals are designed to make us afraid. How many disabled and dead do we tolerate before hobbling our individual freedoms further?

      (I’d rather be able to carry my own snacks on a plane, even if a fellow passenger’s “snacks” kills everyone aboard.)

      And second amendment is a little outdated, I understand that at one time it was desirable to have a wealthy person with a cannon to give to the citizen militia… These days, the tech of warfare is more reasonable to be owned and maintained by the government. Could the NRA really stand up against tyranny even with every hunter, general weapon-owner, and sudden military defector on their side? How many wealthy Burt Gummers would it take to cause a sever inconvenience to the government, assuming everything except radioactive materiel was able to be got?

      • JeffintheWest says:

        The Constitution is never “outdated.” And as far as “the NRA” (though I’d rather say; “average Americans”) standing up to tyranny, even though all the high tech is on the Government’s side, you should probably study up on Vietnam’s or Nicaragua’s revolution. Or even our own, where the Brits had all the “advantages” militarily speaking.

  81. MORE – rice, beans, TP, powder, primers, lead, ammo, silver, and gunsmithing skills class this Thursday!

  82. Ok Pack, I am getting my notes together for an article for herbal remedies. Is there any specific illnesses or such you would like added into the article?

    • TG – herbal remedies for stress, depression, anxiety for both adults and children would be helpful. Thanks.

    • Encourager says:

      How about
      1. pain such as arthritis, sprains,
      2. overworked muscles, headaches.
      3. Sinus pain and pressure,
      4. allergies.
      5. Baby problems like colic, constipation, teething

      Okay, I will quit now!!

    • Sundancing says:

      I would love to learn about basic “getting old” stuff – herbs for blood pressure, diabetes prevention, cholesterol, etc. Thank you for doing this! :)

    • I vote for pain, arthritis, and sleep! RA here and would like to reduce the prescriptions… And to a note on elderberries, I THINK I may have a wild one growing here… Will double check when it blooms, will take it to Austin at the Wildflower Center to verify.

  83. Renewed my subscription to Backwoods Home magazine. Bought some useful books at local thrift shops: Wheat Cookin’ Made Easy, We’ll Eat Again (UK WWII rationing recipes), American Folk Medicine, and Doctor’s Book of Home Remedies. Also got The Prepper’s Cookbook from Amazon. Sprouted 24 dozen small peat pots of carrot seedlings. Added 12 cans Yoder’s ground beef, 2 cans Emergency Essential’s green coffee beans and a six-pack of #10 cans of powdered dairy and egg products from Honeyville. Dehydrated and then vacuum-canned about 3 dozen jars of various vegies and fruit (fresh, canned and frozen). Stocked-up on 19 lbs of dry pasta either discounted at local grocery stores or at near wholesale price from Costco. Intend to cook the pasta and then dehydrate it so I will have “instant” pasta in my food storage. Found a nearly new Columbia fisherman’s vest, a still in the unopened package Eddie Bauer Espresso Maker (will fit on the rocket stove) and a still in package 5-in-1 emergency whistle (compass, waterproof match holder, fire starter bar) at local thrift shops. Right now I am dehydrating fresh spinach leaves so I can bake, from food storage, spinach and bacon quiche in the solar oven.

  84. Encourager says:

    WHAT?!?! Whole Foods, Organic Valley and Stonyfield Farms are now agreeing to allow GMO products in their stores and in their products?!?! Good grief, can’t we trust ANYONE to keep our food pure? They have ALL lost us as customers. http://worldtruth.tv/usda-forces-whole-foods-to-accept-monsanto/

    Okay, I looked up the info regarding Monsanto being protected by the USA laws from being sued regarding GMO products causing health problems and it was Obama who appointed the Vice President of Monsanto as adviser to the head of the FDA.I stand corrected – the bill passed protects GMO (read Monsanto and others) from being sued for health reasons (http://www.policymic.com/articles/31783/monsanto-protection-act-highlights-special-interests-behind-legislative-process) and the Vice President of Monsanto was appointed as adviser to the FDA head.(http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/2911019). Need to be completely factual here.

    • Encourager and wolf pack- a new bill was just introduced into Congress to try to insist that the GMo foods be labeled as such- so PLEASE contact your Congressmen and woman and tell them to vote for this bill.(sorry I don’t know the number of it- this inf was sent out by Marie Rodale from Rodale press which is very reputable (Organic Magazine Editor). Arlene

    • Encourager, absolutely insane. Thank goodness for the non gmo project. I try to watch for their label when shopping.
      It is terrifying what is happening to our food. Most people dont have a clue. I have known about them for a while and am still finding things. For instance tuna. Who would guess that canned tuna is packed into gmo soy. The only cans I could find without the soy is $5 for 5 oz! Even bags of sugar are more than likely in part gmo sugar beets unless it says pure sugar cane. Even then I dont trust it. It is sad that while trying to buy basic things I have to argue with myself over cost vs gm free.

      • How about Tuna in water? Around here it’s the same price, and IMO a lot tastier, but be aware that most tuna still contains some mercury compounds.

        • OhioPrepper, all I buy is tuna in water. Here is what is listed on the label: light tuna, water, vegetable broth (carrots, celery, peas, soybeans), salt.
          I checked every brand and its all the same. The only thing I could find without the soy was in the health food section for the price I listed. I avoid soy because of the gmos, but I feel really bad for those with soy allergies. Corn is just as bad.
          As for the mercury, thats the reason we dont eat it a lot and I usually fix it with cilantro.

          • If you know someone on the west coast maybe you could visit during tuna season. It will be one thing I miss when I leave here. Fresh caught tuna and then canning it makes for wonderful meals during the off-season.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      Now THERE’S a shock! Mr. “I-want-Health-Care-Passed-immediately-but-no-way-am-I-going-to-suffer-under-it” has decided it’s okay to put anything they want into our food supply? Tell me it ain’t so!

      Why is it that every law the Dems propose is dedicated to the principle of taking something away from Americans? Why can’t they just leave us alone, allow us to cling to our guns and bibles and self-reliance in our benighted ignorance out there in “fly-over” country? If they don’t want healthy food, or freedom of choice in health care, or a gun of their own, that’s just spiffy, but why does that ALSO mean they need to take away OUR rights to have those things? Is it so they somehow won’t feel cheated when they see that we 1) don’t care what they do to themselves, and 2) are living just fine (in fact better) without all their stupid ideas? Okay, rant over. Sorry.

  85. Encourager says:

    Okay, this would be funny (and I did laugh at first), if it weren’t so shocking.

    Just saw something on the news that blew me away. Last week, a man in California had a fake petition and walked up to people and said he was tired of people criticizing Obama and wanted it stopped – he told them his petition was about repealing the First Amendment. Everyone he approached signed it.

    Yesterday he did it again, except he was repealing the Sixth and Seventh Amendment (your right to a speedy trial). He said repealing it would get rid of the glut of backup in the courts. People signed it willingly.

    He said he just thought like a politician and promised the opposite of what he wanted. It was funny – at first. Then appalling. Do people really NOT know the Constitution? All of them were willing to sign away their rights under the Constitution with the stroke of a pen. Not to mention putting down their names and addresses to a complete stranger… Yes, before you start (and you know who YOU are…;) ) I know that you cannot change the Constitution with a petition.

    And yes, this WAS in California, but I am sure you could get people to sign those petitions in every state.

    • JeffintheWest says:

      He did the same a week or two earlier with the Second Amendment. People just blithely signed whatever was shoved in front of them — even when he flat out told them he was seeking to repeal a Constitutional Right — they didn’t even listen. They’d just say something like “uh huh” or “right” and continue signing. The good news is that several people DID tell him “no” or “no way.” Welcome to the world of the Sheeple….

    • I seen the one about the second amendment, and also talked about doing the same thing with the first amendment. Some people are so oblivious.