What did you do to prep this week?

I’m sorry about the delay in posting this – I had to go up to my mother’s house this morning to repair her roof, before the rain hits later today. Got it done, it looks good and she will stay dry – but I did remember that I don’t care much for heights. 😯

For donations via PayPal this week, I would like to think Jana M, Mark H, Author B and Lewis for their very generous contributions. Thank you for helping me keep this blog going…

I would also like to thank Joe Nobody for sending me a copy of his new book “Holding Your Ground” that is available through Amazon.com and at his web page. I’ve not had time to read it all the way through, but did give it a good “flip through” and from what I could tell the book has some helpful and easy to implement advice on way to better defend your home and or retreat.

Okay, not let me see what did I do to prep this week… ?:-)

Finished writing the “outline” for my third book “The Dirt Cheap Survival Guide to Providing Your Own Food” look for this one to be available from Paladin Press this fall. And don’t forget “31 Days to Survival” is scheduled for release early this spring.

What else? I ordered several books through Amazon.com including…

I also received my order (a barter deal for ad space on the blog) of a “3-Month 2-Person Kit” that contains 60 #10 Cans with an average shelf-life of 30+ years, from Augason Farms… Fast shipping and good service.

What did you do to prep this week? Let us know in the comments below…


  1. I just wanted to share something absolutely hilarious with all of you. http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/end-of-the-world/are-video-games-adequately-preparing-kidsfor-the-post-apocalyptic-future.html

    I’m going to check the links later to see if they lead to anything plausible.

  2. Four five gallon “Jerry Cans” from Cheaper Than Dirt” along with five more USGI 20 round M14 magazines. Also ordered 100 rounds of Horaday 150 grain Match BTHP .308 and some spare parts from Fulton Armory.

  3. Anyone run into the new Ruger SR22 semi-auto pistol? I had heard of it but just saw a pic. Looks like any of the new “super nines” and is being featured at the Las Vegas Shot Show. The article/review I read implies that it may well become a classic….like the Ruger MKII/III. Haven’t heard the price.

    • templar knight says:

      I want me one. Rumor has it the price will be in the $400 range, a little pricey, but the price will come down I hope. Prices are usually a little less than the suggested retail price anyway.

  4. Lexington says:

    OTOH, had “the conversation” with SWMBO and it had a surprising turn … she’s on board with bivy sacks. This is a big plus, as it shaves the weight of shelter by 2/3. Found these at a decent price: http://titaniumgoat.com/Bivy.html. I’d never heard of them, but they were referenced as being better than another sack in the reviews for the other, more expensive, sack. I also like that it is a quiet gray color. I have signalling and communication devices … if I want to be found, I can arrange that. But I want to control whether it happens or not. Gray on the ground is a good camo color as the shape and color of the sack rather resembles a weathered rock out-cropping.

  5. SurvivorDan says:

    Sort of out of the ordinary prepping activity, but a fellow prepper and I are going to the ANME and SHOT shows in Vegas. See the latest and greatest in long term foods, food prepartion eqipment, tents, weapons, bags, clothing , gear, solar ovens etc.
    I’m not a rich yuppie prepper but there might be some decent gear and food products there and I can touch them, taste them and test them before I order another strange and disappointing item sight-unseen on-line. The trip will cost the equivalent of a lot of preps but I hope to find some good stuff and will report back here on anything interesting.

    • SurvivorDan says:

      By ‘strange and disappointing items bought on-line’ I was NOT referring to MD’s recommended products which he has vetted and approves of. I mean that whiz-bang knife or solar oven that I bought on a strange site and was ripped off for.
      Caveat emptor.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Dan, if you have the inclination to do so, I would enjoy reading your assessments of the SHOT & AMNE shows in LV. I will probably never attend one, so reading your comments would be quite helpful. Thanks.

  6. Here’s another article on totally drug resistant TB–outbreaks in both India and Iran.


  7. MENTALMATT says:

    Hey Lint Picker, Dont make me come after you, I was really concerned. I was ready to call out all the units, and the dogs. Good luck on finding a new place, get the hell out of California. god Bless.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Matt, I noticed NOBODY offered a reward for information leading to my whereabouts. Seems you guys weren’t that worried about me. LMAO

      • You never offer a reward the first week someone is gone.

      • templar knight says:

        Well, I was about to offer a pink flashlight as a reward. I figured that would flush you out of hiding. My first thought was to offer a bag of boiled peanuts, but H-D wanted those to pave the road in front of his house, or so he said. Personally, I think he is a closet boiled-peanut lover.

        • Hunker-Down says:


          I love peanuts. Grade A peanuts are dry roasted, coated in a clear candy shell and painted in lots of pretty colors, with an “M”.
          They get respect.
          The Grade B nuts are ground into delicious peanut butter; I have a pp&j sandwich every day for lunch.
          The other junk that cant make the grade are boiled, mostly for livestock feed. They never make it up North.

      • Lint, TK told me to follow the cracked shells of boiled peanuts and the UPS/FedEx guys with bad backs. Lol I was on the 101 when you posted you were back (LA area of course lol)

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          All I know is if my life depended on the sleuthing abilities of any of you guys, I’d have been a goner. You all need to work on your tracking and interrogation skills. Colombo is turning over in his grave.

          • templar knight says:

            I don’t know about that. I suggested to MD that he contact NorCalRay to see if he could get in touch with you, and NCR did know a mutual friend to contact. Not that it did any good, mind you, but I thought it was a pretty good angle from someone who is a couple of thousand miles away, and doesn’t know your name, address, phone number, e-mail or cell phone number. Of course, I could have called every hospital in No. California and asked them if they had admitted a patient with a flashlight fetish. That seemed a little far-fetched, though.

            I’ll admit to being worried about you, but I had a feeling you were going to show up with an adventure to talk about, although I figured it might have to do with a hospital stay and a pretty nurse. I’m pretty dang glad it was an adventure of another sort. You be careful from now on, and watch out for wet floors. Or I’ll sic MamaJ on you, she knows how to deal with boys who get out of line. LOL.

            • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

              Oh no, not MamaJ – I’m quaking in my boots (well, actually my slippers – still can’t wear my boots). Yeah, poor NorCalRay, he said he got inundated with questions about my “disappearance”. OK, I’ll post a message to the Pack next time I take off for a few days. Sheesh – this place is worse than having a nagging wife. (not that I ever had a nagging wife, but I’ve heard stories)

      • You almost had the biker of the apocolyps my evil twin. Looking for you.

        • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

          The biker of the apocolypse – I think I went to school with that guy. Scary dude.

  8. Another good week of preps:

    I resealed 6 x 5 gallon food storage buckets with Mylar bags as my original attempt 2 weeks ago left too much air in them (rice and flour). I also added 22 lbs of beans to my long term food storage.
    Purchased another large container of coffee
    Ordered a minor surgery kit and an additional 397 piece first aid kit
    Refilled my 5 and 7 gallon water containers and purified them
    Took my DD hiking in the mountains and hills 4 times
    Settled on an area for a retreat cabin in the sierras, now looking at land plots
    Researched cabin kits and modulars

    Questions for the Wolf Pack:
    Does spaghetti or any type of pasta store well in Mylar bags and food grade buckets and if so what is the expectant shelf life?

    Does anyone have any experience with Victorio VKP1012 Hand Operated Grain Mill and would you recommend it? I have never used a grain mill of any type so this will be another self taught lesson.


    • d2 prep…that ground flour will not store as long as wheat berries (30years ++).

      My ground flour is good for about 12 months – but stored in the tropics – so you may get better longevity.

      LDS has a huge free download on all things prepping/storage.

      Search on this blog…it has been linked already.

      also, google ‘vacuum sealing beans and rice’ – will see youtube video of someone showing how to use empty dry clean soda bottles – all sizes – instead of vac seal foodsaver bags…will still need to place these in vermin proof buckets. will definately save you some money as bags are expensive – yet very handy for me, so, go with what works for you.

      yes, pasta does store well in mylar bags – with O2 absorbers, leave pasta in its original packets – must get an O2 free environment. Mine are all stored this way.

      LDS manual will tell you all the different storage periods – including the difference in years, depending on the temperature items are stored at…pace yourself – this is a new way of life.

      You probably have a sense of urgency – I know that I did when I first started…remember – at least you are on your way…you are doing something productive to ensure your family’s future.

      And I don’t have all the answers, still learning also. cheers.

      • Chloe thank you! I found the site and was just watching one of the videos and reading the info. So with your pasta, you keep them in the original packages, then inside the mylar bags with oxygen absorbers in the food grade buckets?

        You are right the more I learn the more I feel I need to do. I try to do a little each week to sure up areas of my preparations. I actually enjoy doing it and find it to be as fun as a hobby. I try to tell my family that it is like an insurance policy. Need to do it just in case….

        Thanks again for your insight!

        • d2 prep…and, have to tell you, that once I got all my beans and band-aids stored, then I had to start practicing getting out of dodge (GOOD).

          Some days, my level of paranoia is heightened – and I have to keep moving more stuff to yet another location…be flexible…just in case you cannot stay where your preps are…

          in my opinion, it would be unwise to store all your preps/things in one place, and for whatever reason – circumstances out of your control, means you have to move quickly and leave…

          I practice various prepping things, and stay active and as agile as I can.

          Take that GOOD drive – topo maps, with local phone book maps, and the locally printed map of the area – had to peruse all combined, finally allowed me to really see what was available. Makes me wonder if vital info is left out of our civilian maps purposely…

          And I’m still spewing that some roads that are marked as ‘through’ roads, aren’t.

          Test those headlamps, tents, rope, solar lights, knives.

          Cook outdoors (not in your backyard, or patio) in the bush…that’ll make the expletives come thick and fast for a while, until you finally can cook a good filling meal from a coffee can stove…

          Had to get organized during the afternoons with my meal preparations so I would have no campfire burning when it got dark…if SHTF – have to keep a low profile.

          My little battery radio has earplugs, so I can stay in touch with daily news, but my TV was/is the stars and night sky.

          also, when you get to the stage of planting a stealth garden – (e.g., in places where I go camping to test my prep items), don’t expect the growth of the fruit to be anywhere near the normal size…when I checked on some pineapple tops I had planted, the fruit was only the size of a medium apple – and that pineapple was fully ripe.

          The more I learn, the more there seems to be to learn…so, a little each day sees progress.

          There is a ton of stuff on the net…however, I really needed to talk/share with other like-minded people, after years of only being able to discuss preps with my DD.
          As you will need to be careful about what you tell people who live near you, and/or who you interact with on a daily basis…better to share anonymously on this blog –

          Be aware that neighbours will call in unannounced – especially in the country…when you have bags of opened wheat/rice/beans, scoops, sharpie, vacuum sealer all set up for the hours it takes to get it all packed up and all stored away, and all in full view – when they come driving up the driveway…the first question is usually ‘where did you get all the buckets?

          Even though I live in the boonies, now when I arrive home with a carload of preps to repackage, I re-padlock the gate down at the dirt road, and drive up to my home…and when my phone rings, if it’s anyone other than my DD, it goes to voice-mail until I’m finished and stuff is all hidden away.

          have fun.

          • I agree with all your points. I only have one neighbor who has a clue as to what I am up to. He is prepping on a smaller scale as well and I would want him in my group WTSHTF. Other neighbors although I like them, I view as potential vultures. Convincing my family that I am not “off the reservation” is the next biggest hurdle (LOL). I appreciate your feedback as I have along way to go.

  9. Has anyone studied herbal medicine? I would like to learn about herbs, but am not very disciplined to just read a text book on my own. There is a course called the East West School of herbology that looks very good, but is also very expensive.

    • Donna, I am a licensed practitioner of Oriental Medicine and started out, like you, interested in using herbs for healing.

      The East-West school is excellent, but as you say, expensive.

      I have been sitting on my hands undecided whether to write up an article related to herbal training resources for this blog and it looks like the time is now.

      • bmerry – training resources would be helpful. I have a few herbal books, but would like something interactive, or some dvds to watch, as I find I learn better that way.

    • MtWoman is working on a post on herbal medicine.

  10. breadmomma says:

    a little bit off topic, but I am mad as hell…Twinkies, Hohos and Dingdongs may be a thing of the past…seems that the company is going to have to file chapter 22 or go totally bankrupt…with all the negatives about all of us fat US citizens, those of us that revere the little soft cakes with the “cream” center ( ok, fat, sugar, and lots of things I can’t pronounce) if you are into gratuitous junk food, you may want to stock up on these bad boys while you still can…of course, none of us have personal responsibility and it was the companies fault for making us eat too many of these things along the way….I wonder how long a twinkie can last in a nitrogen packed can????

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      breadmomma, I heard on the news this morning that Hostess was filing for bankruptcy. What a bummer! I liked the Twinkies when I was a kid, but as an adult I sometimes got a hankering for a berry pie. Those things were really tasty after a day of treasure hunting (and finding nothing) or after driving 400 miles to get to a good fishing location (and catching nothing). Them little pies were the pot of gold at the end of the rainbor, or the brass ring at the merrygoround. And now I’ll have no more berry pies to eat, no more little donuts covered with pneumonia-inducing powdered confectioner’s sugar, no more sugar rush. WAAAAAAAAH!

      What’s next? What other company will bite the dust? I shudder to think.

    • Wow man, I’m sorry. I insist on being part of that problem by not wasting my money on them.

      Easy access to Twinkies-like products has caused my inability to eat cakes and cookies and pie now, but I don’t think that the products themselves should go away.

      No, I’m not diabetic yet, sugary foods simply make me curl up on the floor and make me wish I were dead. This could have been prevented by so many factors that rest on my shoulders alone, and the rest of the preventative factors seem impractical outside of some grand conspiracy.

  11. conmaze (nofla) says:

    I accomplished more than I expected over the weekend. I went to Sam’s and got my usual tuna fish, canned corn and canned salmon. I also got a pack of 24 microfiber towels in the auto section for 50 cents a piece. They are a great cleaning cloth, rinse well and dry very quickly. I even use them as hot pads in the kitchen. I got to Sam’s too late and the girls in the bakery were gone so I missed out on getting any empty frosting buckets. No packing buckets this week! Then I hit Big Lots and picked up 9 packs of Bear Creek Soups for $3 ea. The coolest find of the day were battery operated “closet” lights. They come in a two pack for $5 and take 3 AA batteries per light (included). I bought 3 packs to try them out to see how bright they really are. I am always worried about not having enough good work light in the kitchen if the power goes, so I held two of them up under the cabinets and wow, I was impressed! I then took one into the bathrooms, closets, even the bedrooms. Puts out a good light! They are not LED and only have a single little bulb. You can mount with hook and loop, double-sided tape or with screws and they have a toggle switch on the side. I’m going to get enough to do my whole kitchen area and put one inside the door of each room so I can turn on a light when I walk in, even if it’s just to make sure I don’t trip over the dogs! These little things are great! Now I will have to test to see how long the batteries last.

    I started gathering all of the stuff I’ve purchased over the last few months for two BOBs and realized I have almost everything I need! I also bought some small Christmas tins on clearance at Big Lots and found my two-way radio, Eton Red Cross solar/crank radio, solar charger for the two-way and cell phone and one of many backup thumb drives fit in perfectly. Now I need to find something to line the tin with for EMP protection and I’ll be ready to pack it up.

    Ladies, I also bought my daughter a Diva Cup for her bag just in case. I don’t have that monthly worry any longer, but I remember it well enough that if I were walking to get home or get wherever, I sure wouldn’t want to have to have to stop and go off by myself to find a hidden area to “make a change” every few hours – the Diva Cup will carry you through about 12 hours. What a great invention! One-time cost instead of having to stock up on boxes and boxes of tampons or pads and then wondering how to dispose of them. Ew, so unsanitary! She bought herself one to use now so she can eliminate the monthly costs of pads, etc., and puts that savings into buying more preps. What a good girl *grin*

    Another thing I did/discovered that got me excited was in the fall I had purchased 3 boxes of cheap outdoor solar lights on clearance from Tractor Supply for $4 for a box of six. I took one of them apart and discoved they run on AA batteries. Woot woot! So that means not only did I get 18 solar lights each with a AA rechargable battery, but I got 18 solar battery chargers – all for $12! Who needs to buy an expensive charging unit? I’ll just keep switching out the batteries on the lights! I also bought some jars at the Dollar Tree that have a hinged glass lid like on the old style canning jars that used the rubbers, the type of jar for bath salts or cotton balls. If I remove the ground stake from the solar light, the top of the solar light (charging panel and bulb with clear plastic globe) fit neatly into the jar and the solar panel snugs right up to the top of the glass lid. Voila, pretty little solar lights to set on the table or add a wire bail handle and hang it from a hook. In the morning just take it back outside and charge it up for the next night. I think the charging panel being under the glass magnifies the sun’s rays because those lights appear to be much brighter than the others. Bonus!

    Anyway, it was a good week. Finding solutions to worrisome problems, the simple things I can do to prep to make my life easier, safer and as close to “normal” as possible always make me happy.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      Wow, lots of great prepping done this past week. Good work!

    • Grannytraveler says:

      I love those Dollar Store lidded jars with the rubber gasket. I buy them whenever I can find them and use them to store all kinds of items from spices, etc., to craft supplies. You cannot beat the price. They may be made in China but glass is inert and the rubber gasket doesn’t seem to touch anything so I figure they are safe to use. Don’t tell me if I am wrong. LOL.

      Love the idea on the solar lights!

  12. Grannytraveler says:

    Splurged this week and bought 4 cans of Mtn. House entrees. Also picked up pasta real cheap on sale and had coupons too!! My family calls me the pasta queen but I know it will go fast if there is any kind of a disaster. Only difficulty will be the water. Finally some good deals on holiday stuff. After the holidays it was only 50% off – not good enough for me. Bought a lot of zip lock holiday bags now that they’re 75% off. Also found a lot of holiday quickbread mixes for $1.00. I like to cook things from scratch but when there’s a deal, I’ll snap it up. Plus the men in my family will eat anything.

    I need to start organizing my storage room better. I know where everything is but no one else does and that could create difficulties if I am not in the area when something bad happens. That’s my major new year’s resolution. Need some more shelving. It’s in an upstairs room that is only used in the summer when grandkids come from out of state. Last year I had all the shelves and shelf reliance shelf bolted to the walls in case of earthquakes. This year I want to get some kind of netting to keep things on the shelf in case of shaking. Most glass things I have in cupboards with latches.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      You mentioned that you want to use some netting to keep your stored foods from falling off the shelves. Great idea! Have you considered using the type of cargo netting used on SUV’s or ATVs? They might work really well, but getting them for cheap may be an exercise in futility.

      • Grannytraveler says:

        Yeah, they don’t seem too economical. I was thinking of getting a roll of that orange plastic netting just to wrap around the shelving and having hooks on the side for easy access. I store heavy stuff on the bottom and lighter things as we move up. I still have a dresser to get bolted to the wall and it contains oil lamps that I picked up cheaply at Kmart and additional medical supplies, etc. Other lamps are still in their original boxes. I am trying to think proactively especially after seeing stuff flying off the selves on video from the Japanese quake. I’m trying to lock everything down but with my luck the roof will fall in or there will be a fire.LOL. At least I don’t have to worry about tornados or snow. Winter has disappeared here in SoCal. Not even any rain.

        • conmaze (nofla) says:

          I know what you mean about the roof falling in or fire! We can try to be prepared for almost everything. Key words – “try” and “almost everything.” I live in north Florida and tornadoes came dangerously close to us last year. Worse yet, I live in a mobile home with no basement so all of my preps are stored in my house, so if we survive the tornado everything to help us in the aftermath would probably be gone. I would love to be able to afford an underground storm shelter just to be able to try to stay alive! *sigh* After seeing pictures of Joplin, I guess it really doesn’t matter. Solid brick homes were completely wiped away and all that was left was the cement slab on the ground. How do you prepare for that, other than going underground? But still, there were some amazing stories of survival that you know had God’s fingerprints all over them!

          I have to trust that if we do the best we can to prepare and stay right with God and place ourselves in His hands we will have no worries no matter what happens. He helps those who help themselves (and others). Just keep being proactive and do your prepping and praying and trusting! (o:

        • Cliff in Douglasville says:

          Having lived in Japan for a while (years ago) I have a pretty good handle on the earthquake thing. Things that I kept on open shelves, like books and boxes of electronic parts and stuff like that, I just put an eye bolt in the frame on either side of the shelf, one set about 2 inches up and the other set about 2 inches or so from the top or moved them closer together as needed depending on what was on the shelf then I just had bunge cords that I strung from one eyebolt across to the other and they kept things pretty much in place. I usually had to hook two together to make the span but they were still in tight and kept stuff on the shelf. I also had an upright computer stand with the monitor on the top leaning forward. I used two bunge cords to secure the monitor to the metal frame and the only way it would have rocked off was if the whole metal stand took a tumble. If it was bad enough for that we had bigger problems than things falling off the shelf. At one point my wife didn’t like the looks of them so I took wire and ran it from eyebolt to eyebolt in the bottom of the shelf and we found some cheap lace curtains (they made those for vans in Japan) and I threaded them on the wire. I could flip them up, get what I needed and didn’t have everything on an open shelf for everyone to see. Not sure if that will help what you have in mind but it worked for me.

          • Grannytraveler says:

            The bungee cord idea sounds great – I have a lot of those. I will also look in the garage and see what kind of wire I can find. It’s amazing what turns up out there. My husband likes to start things but rarely finishes them so I have almost 40 years of unused stuff accumulated. The wire sounds like it might even be better than the bungee cords. Both good ideas. Thanx 🙂

  13. well lets see made about 40 of my egg carton candles to help start campfires when everything is whet[k-bar tanto did nice job of seperating the idevidual cups from the wole carton will have to redo the edge though,usualy need the hacksaw for this job] put about 30 of them in bob#2 wicth gave me opertunity to reveve its contents,still some tweking to do but thats whay thay call it pereping,for an apartment liver on a fixed income i sometime cant beleve how well preped i am,will soon put the others in bob #1 and revewe its contents az well,prep the body prep the sole.

  14. Plant Lady says:

    I am just plain weirded out – it was 50 degrees here today. We are in the north…as in the only thing north of us is Canada…and we are even north of a big chunk of the eastern half of Canada. The last time it was 50 degrees on this day was in 1928! Most of the past two weeks we have been in the high 30s-40s…this is just plain wrong. Our normal high is 26 degrees! I played outside and rebuilt the hoops over the two winter salad gardens and did some transplanting and weeding. Ok, I ate some too (hehe). It felt like I was in the Twilight Zone the whole time.
    Got my first LDS order: 100 lb. white wheat, 100 lb. quick oats, 50 lb. rice, 50 lb. dry milk, 100 mylar bags and 100 O2 absorbers. It is such a good feeling to see a sizable pile of food! (hehe) Got my pails sanitized and it is supposed to rain/sleet/snow tomorrow, so packing up sounds like a good project. Hit a great sale so also have 6 lbs. of chicken breasts and big ham to dissect and vacuum seal. When I get down to the bone, I foresee a big pot of split pea soup!
    Got my first egg of the season – a pretty blue one. By the end of the month production will be picking up. Got to get an order in for some Cochins and assorted meat birds. Not the mutant Cornish Cross, just an assortment of heavy males. Roosters are the eye candy of the chicken world. Might as well have something pretty to look at while you are waiting to eat them (hehe).
    Sis & BIL went to Sams Club and brought me four 2-pks. of Jif Peanut Butter (40 oz. ea) for $9.79 – Walmart price $12.97, up from $10.49 last week. Also got three 500 ct. Vitamin C 1000 mg. at $14 ea. (Walmart price $18.88). Got a few other things I can’t recall at the moment. I really need to find time to get down there, but its an hour one-way drive and with MIL here finding a time to get away for a few hours is a real trick.
    Buying a stainless cheese press was going to be my “big ticket” item for this month, but after reading Garden Mom’s great article on dehydrating, think I will get a dehydrator instead. I am looking at the Excalibur 9-tray but have no idea which of the liner sheets to get? Which do you use? More than one kind for different purposes?Do you need to replace them – how often? If you use it a lot, does your electric bill obviously increase?
    Installing the woodstove is turning into a comedy. Every time we get a minute to work on it MIL has another stroke or somebody else dies (2 this week) or somebody stops by to visit or hubby has to work…or the main hearth piece of plywood delams over an 18″ area (never saw that before in brand new?). Its going…but in slo-mo (sigh) It was making me cranky but has turned comical now, just waiting to see what will prevent us working on it next.

    • templar knight says:

      Plant Lady, I gave up trying to get my wood stove installed, and hired it done. My wife doesn’t have your disposition. LOL. By the way, it’s been in the 60s here(No. Central Arkansas) lately, but was 19 degrees with blowing snow this morning. Quite a change. And to me you’re one of the most admirable members of the Wolfpack, and there is a large number in the Pack to admire. Taking care of your MIL and grandpa is one of the hardest things one can do, but I believe God has a special place in Heaven for folks who take care of their family like you do. Best regards.

      • Plant Lady says:

        templar knight: I wish we could afford to hire it done! But, it is something we can do ourselves so we can instead use the money for a dehydrator, cheese press, storage food, etc. – so we are going to “endeavor to persevere” and get it done when we can. And being an artist and sculptor with a serious rock fetish, I am really looking forward to laying the slate on the hearth and walls. At least with the warm weather we aren’t burning too much propane before we get it done.
        Boy, your 19 degrees/snow in the far south vs our 36 degrees/rain this morn in the far north illustrates just how wrong the weather has been! Of course, it changed this pm and now we are looking at 5″ of snow and temps around 10 by tomorrow night.
        Thank you for your kind words…but what I am doing for the old folks is only what everyone had to do before the last couple generations. And what everyone will have to do once TSHTF. It will be easier for you when its your turn if you don’t think of it as something deserving admiration, but rather just another ordinary stage of life (hehe). It is hard and I may not have done it if I had known exactly what it would entail…especially thinking it would last at most a month or two…and that was 5 years ago (hehe). But, it is pretty much just like having kids…if you knew ahead of time what you were getting into, you would never do it (hehe).

        • MtWoman (N Central Texas) says:

          Plant Lady…I am with you. I moved in with my father (after my step-mother passed away suddenly)…for what was supposed to be 3-6 months….and it’s been almost 4 years. I didn’t have a clue what it would be like. It’s been an incredible challenge, as he is declining mentally & physically, and I get NO help from his other kids (who live fairly close by) . But in my heart I know I’ve done the right thing for a daughter to do, and I’ll have no regrets.

        • templar knight says:

          There is more wisdom in your last two sentences than I’ve seen or heard in a year. And, of course, you are right about how things will be once times get hard. Take care, Plant Lady.

  15. templar knight says:

    Lake Lili has not posted this week, either. She said on last week’s thread that she was sick, and was going to the doctor Monday to see if she had pneumonia. I think all of us who do should pray that Lake Lili has a good outcome, and that she is getting better. I hope we hear from her soon.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      I’ll say a prayer for Lake Lili. She is a good woman. I hope and pray she is well and back to posting here soon.

  16. Hunker-Down says:

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  18. Col. S. Gray (RET) says:

    Read a few of the posts on places to live today. Very interesting comments concerning Kentucky, which is where I live. Actually, I moved back to my home of Eastern KY with the thought of the SHTF in mind.

    One of the reasons I did this was simply….geography. The area where I live is very mountainous. There are no large concentrations of population within 100 miles. There are limited avenues of approach by wheeled or tracked vehicle. Resources are vast, from timber and water to coal, natural gas and oil.

    The people here are very clannish and generally lived here for many generations. Most are very skilled woodsmen and if they accept you…loyal to the death.

    Property can generally be purchased very cheap compared to city areas. Example, last year I purchased a 200 acre tract that used to be a mine. As far a defensible positions go, let’s say the only thing I would worry about would be attacks from the air. At that point the deep reinforced stone shafts come in very handy.

    Many of the posts I read today within the article seemed to come from persons unfamiliar with the true characteristics of this area. Having grownup here, I can tell you that the Appalachian Mountains are not only great fallback positions, but also if you check your history on the migration of this country early on….this was one area that flourished due to the benefits I listed above.

    Anyway….such was my day.

    • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

      When you’ve got a good thing, sometimes it’s best to keep it to yourself. The blogger who keeps telling his readers to move to the “American Redoubt” may live to regret his decision to promote the area. My state used to be great, until everybody and his brother moved here.

      • Col. S. Gray (Ret) says:

        Logical point of course Lint Picker. I am not overly concerned with the prospect however. Confident that I am not engaged in serial promotion of the area, coupled with the innate issues that generally steer people away from the area (as seen in the posts) I am not worried that I will awaken next week and find the area saturated with an influx of new arrivals.

    • Harold Dean says:

      Colonel, at my mature age of seventy two, I have came to the conclusion that no matter where I lived, there are other places I would like to live when certain circumstances happen that make me wonder why I chose to locate where I did. My generation grew up having to subsist with a lot of what we grew or hunted and foraged and were used to working with the hand tools to provide what we needed to live with. Point in favor of this is situation that happened with a neighbor across the street who was wanting to put in some fencing. He needed some post holes dug and I offered him my venerable old twist post auger that I have used since I was barely into my teens. He asked what is this?. He was used to seeing the youtube videos of people with the two handled jab diggers to dig holes with. Bad back and all, I went ahead and after sharpening the cutting edge, I dug the first hole for him. He returned the auger an hour later with only two more holes dug and went down and rented a hydraulic powered unit that had an engine and pump in the truck bed and long hoses to the motor driving the unit. He would have been lost or dead in a SHTF situation. I am familiar with your location since a lot of my ancestors came from that part of the woods and I have made numerous trips back there. It is wonderful and is just as good a place as any other. At my age and physical condition, I am stuck where I am and since I figure that my worst worries are the Golden Hordes of unprepared people (including some neighbors), I need to work on evasion, camouflage and defensive measures which is what I am going to concentrate on. Best to you sir and thanks for your service. Harold

      • Hunker-Down says:

        Harold Dean,

        I have a twist post auger from my dads farm, and use it a few times a year. It was his favorite tool to hand to me when we worked the fence line.

        • Harold Dean says:

          Hope you got as much use out of it as I did. I was seventeen and wanting to get out of the woods and join the Army since the high school refused to graduate me early on the grounds that American History was a requirement. They also refused to give me a test that I could have easily passed on the grounds it was only offered in the senior year of high school. I already had several more credits than need to graduate only lacking that one. I left and entered the ARmy and finished my education acquiring a BS in Electrical and Mechanical Engineering and later in my 50’s my Masters in Electrical. In order to get my parents to sign the permission for me to enlist since I was seventeen, I had to run a fence line down the east edge of our property. 317 post holes later, some that I had to carry water in a 5 gallon bucket from the spring to soften the hard ground, I finished the fence with posts I had cut myself from our woods, boring them for the rails with sharpened ends to fit between the posts, I was allowed to enter the Army. School was out on the 29th of May and I enlisted on the 21st of June. I will always remember that bargain because if I had not done it I probably would have retired from a menial backbreaking type of job since that was all I had to look forrward to without advanced education. I retired making more than 100k a year as a senior field service engineer. Harold

      • Col. S. Gray (Ret) says:

        Harold Dean:

        Thank you Sir for your service as well. I agree with you that there are hordes of out population that have lived such a posh life that the mere thought of physical labor is abhorent to them.

        If the SHTF, these people will be a serious problem both to security and assets. Unfortunately we will not be able to help them…and that is a sad fact.

        Goodluck to you Sir and if you are ever in the area be sure to email me.


  19. M.D. & the Other Wolf Pack Gun Gurus,

    When it is suggested that we stock up on at last 250 rounds of our primary defensive weapon, does that include target ammo?

    I ask because I need to stock up on ammo. I have a box of 100 hollow points for home defense. I guess my question is this: what percentage of your ammo is for self-defense and what percentage is for target practice?

    • Gayle,
      There is no set rule on how much ammo you need to put away, 250 round would likely suffice for self-defense because you / we should avoid confrontation if possible. A good rule of thumb is to stock as much ammo as you can afford, with 250 rounds being a good starting point that can be built upon if time and finances permit. Ammo used for practice should be replaced a.s.a.p.

      • Thanks, M.D. I will make a trip to Walmart tomorrow and replace the target ammo that I shot up this week. I really like my new Glock 19. It is so easy to shoot. I am getting better. My shots were in line vertically with the bulls eye with a nice grouping but some of my shots tended to be a little low.

  20. Harold Dean says:

    Just found something relevant in the propane storage question. The 29lb and the 100lb cylinders are the ones under suspicion around here. For some reason they never even look at the 30 lb cylinders with the quick disconnects they use on the forklift trucks. They also do not consider the horizontal tanks that are in the propane powered truck beds since they do not consider them portable. Out of curiousity we weighed one that belongs to one of the telephone servicemen who lived on the other side of the block and purchased the truck from the phone company when they bought new ones. It only took removing the four 3/8″ bolts to be able to move the tank. Empty one man can handle it and with it full of propane it weights just a little over 300 pounds and can be handled by two people. Guess what I am going to use to store my propane now after I buy the truck from the guy next door. Don’t have a forklift or any reason to have one but if you were located right next to a small factory like one of my friends and his rack is going to be located right against the factory rack on his side of the fence with the locked tanks stored in it. I realize that I could have a large stationary tank set up but that would cause questions since our area is well served with natural gas and I think that in the event of any SHTF situation, they would probably collect the propane from those tanks within the first week. As a matter of fact they will probably requisition the truck also so I will keep it temporarily out of repair. The reason why the emphasis on propane is because it can be used for many things other than fuel and in the event of disruption, you do not need electricity to pump it like you would with underground gasoline tanks. This is written up in the city’s major disruptive events suggestions for a terrorism incident. Strike out the word terrorism and you will undertand their thinking. Also on the subject of relocation, after this last trip to the Doctor and finding I have two areas of vertabra disruption, this renders me incapable of relocating to a more rural area. I guess I will just have to go with my other idea of the metal shipping container with a lot of my stores in the back end and have the entire front end strategically loaded with useless junk, like old mowers, garden tractors and washing machines effectively blocking view of an access to my stores that I don’t have in the house, basement or under the floor in the two rooms not over the basement. I have figured that by placing the junk in such a manner that it can be moved aside with the aid of a bar or comealong, I can hid my stuff in case I am raided for what is in the house. Harold

  21. Harold Dean says:

    MD, Just took a good look at the front cover of your book and just had to ask this question. Did you ever happen to see the Ray Milland movie called “Panic in the year zero”? Picture of the trailer is what made me think of it. Harold

    • Harold Dean,

      I’ve seen it – good movie btw.

      • Harold Dean says:

        That have any bearing on your decision to use a trailer. I have thought about the times I had used ours during a couple of ice storms and wish now I had not let the DW talk me into getting rid of it. Harold

        • Harold Dean,

          No, I just needed a place to live at the time…

          • Harold Dean says:

            Just a stray random thought I had M.D., when I saw the picture and the idea clicked into my head. Along that line, however, when I was inquiring about the metal shipping container I mentioned in an earlier post about a place to store my preps, a got several suggestions about using a couple of them suitably coated and buried as retreat shelters. I guess they would work for that but I don’t think I would really like to live underground. I’m not claustrophobic but I need all of the natural light anymore to be able to see everything clearly. Nothing like giving someone unscrupulous a hundred dollar bill instead of a one because you couldn’t see clearly. Hasn’t happened in a long time since we stopped carrying much cash and use the swipe card for purchases and keep a close eye on the account. Only been scammed once for 12.37 but spotted it and got it instantly reversed by the bank. When I reported it to the establishment where I had used the card that day for the only time, they told me they had just had their machine serviced. When I told them it had to have came from their machine since the card was not impressed but simply swiped, they protested until I called the manager. He removed the machine immediately and several days later told me that it had a fake reader chip implanted and he was going forward with a lawsuit against the company who had serviced the machine. He no longer uses that company but one the bank recommended. Harold