What did you do to prep this week?

by M.D. Creekmore on April 8, 2012 · 705 comments

Before we start today, I would like to extend a huge thank you to MsFedUp and Lee O for their generous donations this week via PayPal. It is folks like you that keep this blog running and free, for everyone else. Thank you…

This week, I’ve received several e-mails from readers asking me to provide them with my affiliate link back to Amazon.com, so that I could  receive a commission on their purchases there, thus allowing them to support the blog without actually spending any extra money.

If you want to help support the survivalist blog and the Wolf Pack  through your purchases at Amazon.com than please bookmark this link and use it as your regular Amazon entry point.  It will cost you nothing extra when you order and I will get a small commission from each sale that will be used to keep the survivalist blog up, running, and free for you.

Speaking of Amazon.com sales, while going over my affiliate commissions and orders summary, I noticed something strange or at least I thought it was strange.  What I noticed was that when I link to my new book “31 Days to Survival ” readers clicking the link through to Amazon.com have actually bought more copies of James Wesley Rawles’s book How to Survive the End of the World as We Know It: Tactics, Techniques, and Technologies for Uncertain Times  than copies of my book “31 Days to Survival” over the past several weeks.

However, according to my reports from Paladin Press sales of “31 days to survival” have been strong with the first printing already selling out.  So I think the answer to the dilemma is that readers of The Survivalist Blog dot Net and the Wolf Pack prefer  to order directly from the publisher rather than going through a second party (middleman) at Amazon.com.  However it should be noted that all copies of the book come from Paladin Press.

Okay let’s see, what did I do to prep this week?

  • Safeguard has agreed to send me one of their “Stealth Body Armor” vests for review. They have also donated another vest for our non-fiction writing contest, that vest will be rewarded to our first-place winner.
  • I spent a large portion of this week working around my property and in my garden.  And I’m happy to report that I got a lot done, and I’m even happier to report that I am going to take a break today.
  • This week I also ordered two more “Magpul AR-15 magazines” these are great magazines for the AR-15 and have my highest recommendation.
  • I also bought five boxes of “308 – 180 gr SP – Federal Power Shok” ammo for my Savage Scout rifle.

Well, that is it for me – what did you do to prep this week? Let us know in the comments below…

705 comments

Survivor Mike April 8, 2012 at 9:08 am

Updates for me this week…

Additional storage rack (5 shelves) for the storage area
An additional galloon of water
3 fire ladders for 3 bedrooms upstairs

On the information side, I began documenting my income generation plan on our site.

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 10:10 am

I brought home a new puppy last night. She is a rot and german sheppard mix. My wife named her honey.She has allot of rott in her and I think that she will be a good do you feel lucky dog.

farmmomwannabe April 11, 2012 at 8:20 pm

What a wonderful prep! Our dogs are valuable members of the family. She should be protective and loving toward family. I guess you can tell I love most dogs. : )

Survivor Mike April 13, 2012 at 8:17 am

Axel – awesome prep. I’m still closing on what kind of dog to get but can’t wait.

Also picked up a cheap fire starter and blade cutter this week. Slowly but surely folks.

riverrider April 8, 2012 at 9:19 am

hi all, not much prepping this week. had a stomach bug but feeling better today. prayers to all that need them…i did manage to run by the surplus store and pick up a net hammock. they role up about fist size and can be used for many things besides a hammock. bought an edc pouch, not much bigger than a cell phone case. got a backup shower, aka garden sprayer….my ammo order has been delayed until at least the end of may they tell me. searching my usual haunts came up empty as well. read at one place that lake city received another big gov contract, i cannot confirm. i just know that a huge surplus of 223/556 just went “poof!”. no love on the kimber yet either. take care and stack it high all. out.

farmgal April 8, 2012 at 4:52 pm

That’s interesting my dad out in alberta was at the gun show and while he picked up a case (2000 rounds) he said the same thing about the 223, poof, no ammo at the show!

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:10 pm

River, its the HLS big order’s fault lol.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:14 am

Jarhead. My brother from another mother, tonight told me that at the prison he works at .They have a person to collect used brass. He wears a white hazmat suit to wear while picking up brass. California calls it a hazardous waste.They pay him 40 dollars an hour to do this.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Axel, I have some of the cloth throw away haz mat suits if you need some I can hook you up. Brass is considered or classified as a hazardous material especially the older brass due to the lead content. I was responsible for our Haz Mat until I was promoted and some things people would pick up with their hands I was required to dawn gloves, respirator and suit (usually cloth cover alls) just to be on the safe side.

If he makes $40 an hour I can’t complain lol wish I was making that. I got a $4.50 cent raise to occupy a desk, handle paper work and inspect our crew.

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 2:02 am

Jarhead I never thought of the lead.Thank you for the offer of the hazmat suits ,I have no need for them but thank you.I just wish that I could stumble upon a job like that.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 8:09 pm

WOW. Had to look that up. I had no idea old brass has lead in it. I wish I had that guy’s job. I would have a looooot of preps :)

BamaBecca April 8, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Glad your feeling better!

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 7:48 am

bama, thanks. j, they just emailed me about the ammo. august now:(

Jarhead 03 April 10, 2012 at 6:28 pm

River, its why I buy my ammo at gun shows, bulk as much as I want, pay in cash and no electric or records of my purchase. Only problem is getting 3,000 rounds back to the car with a hand truck lol

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

j, lol, roger that. except now there’s none to be had there after the first hour or so. i just ordered some from ammoman to tide me over.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 1:24 am

Almost got a gunsafe this weekend.Someone beat me to it with the cash.A friend of mine bought 5 remington 870 with 2 barrels . He bought them from work he is a corrections officer. He sold 3 of them to pay for the 2 that he kept.Hopefully he will sell me one of them.He probably will he told me that I am still his only brother.I think that is hi praise from someone who has done a hitch in the marines and has been a c.o. for about 15 years.We have known each other since 7th grade. I will hit him up for one next week.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 8:07 am

a heads up-my ci says the trayvon grand jury will fail to indict zimmerman. this source is new to me, so take that for what its worth. keep your eyes open if you’re out and about tuesday.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 9:04 am

And here come the riots….

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 2:04 am

They will come for shure. Just call it Rodney King 2.

DJV April 9, 2012 at 10:32 am

Pardon me for butting in on the conversation, but all I can think of is “Uh oh, the S may really HTF if that happens, huh?

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 12:45 pm

djv, no pardon needed, all are welcome. my answer would be: maybe. i think the trayvon affair is losing steam as the facts get out but you never know with an emotional crowd. it could go from zero to stupid in 6.2 seconds. its worth keeping an eye out.

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:19 pm

RR,

You’ve got that right–there’s no telling what’s going to happen with the crowds. Zero to stupid in .62 seconds is a good description.

Jarhead 03 April 10, 2012 at 6:32 pm

River, CNN said that the two lawyers that recently dropped representing him said they had info saying the same.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 9:06 am

RR

I like to think that Uncle Sam heard I was in the market for anther AR, and, knowing what a 1 man army I am, decided to buy up all the 223. Lol j/k

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm

tin, LOL, i heard they tried to kamakazi you with an f18 they were so scared:) glad you are all right.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 5:48 pm

RR

Lol, they gave it a go, but apparently had had intel on my location….

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 9:50 pm

tin, like thats never happened before…

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 11:09 pm

RR

Lol, military intelligence: That’s 2 lies for the price of one.

village idiot April 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Hope you’re feeling better quick, river. I’m glad I bought extra ammo the past few weeks, as it is flying out of the stores faster than crap through a goose. All my local gunshops are out of cheap 5.56, and none can be ordered. Wal-Mart is also out, no answer on when more would come. Batten down the hatches, and be ready for anything.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 10:00 pm

vi, sg gave me a due in date of august now. its moved back twice already…looks like my trayvon source was good, though for different reason. sounds like the d.a. is gonna charge instead. trying to save face now. no way he gets a fair trial. jury will be afraid not to convict.

Surviving in Ky. April 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm

riverrider, I posted below but thought I would give you a heads up. Go to http://ammoseek.com/ and use the drop down boxes for the type of ammo you want and it will search the internet for the best prices. I stumbled across this site over the weekend and it sure helps. Hope the rest of the pack finds it helpful as well. God Bless!

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm

thanks! i found some at ammoman, but it was higher than last week of course.

chloe April 14, 2012 at 7:29 am

hey rr, hope you are feeling better…cheers.

DaveB April 8, 2012 at 9:19 am

Did a lot of work on the garden this week and worked, of course, with the rabbits. Should be processing a few this week and putting them in the freezer or canner.

Prep Now April 8, 2012 at 9:34 am

Got the corn planted last Sunday and already have 2″ sprouts. Cucumbers are finally acting like they want to grow. Still have gr.beans , tomatoes, peppers, and greens producing. Froze some fresh bananas off the trees this week. Bought more mason jars. Storage bins are full now, just starting to do canned goods rotation in and out as we use them.

texasmomma April 8, 2012 at 9:56 am

Garden planted. Tomatoes, green beans, pickling cucumbers, cantelope and strawberries so far.
Wal-mart finally had canning jars so I purchased 4 cases of pints.
We were wxcited to learn that our new female Dogo was born, only to learn that the 7 out of 8 puppies died. The breeder took the mom and the little female to the vet. Turns out momma had a bad infection and the little female would not be suitable for breeding. We are trying to decide if we want to wait for another heat or get one from Argentina.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 8:14 pm

That makes me so sad. I’m really sorry. I don’t know what kind of dog that is, but I hope things work out for you :(

Ridge Runner April 8, 2012 at 9:56 am

Been kinda out of the loop lately. My wife Cathy was diagnosed with breast cancer just after Christmas, and as many of you probably know, that can be a real “show stopper”. We are blessed to have excellent medical facilities reasonably close by and great health insurance (while it lasts). Although Cathy’s condition is treatable with a good chance for long term cure, it’s gonna be a long, hard summer of chemotherapy, etc. Most importantly, we are blessed to have good friends and neighbors and close family ties which is so vital during rough times.

In order to keep myself busy and not dwell on tough times, I’ve been trying to keep up a modicum of prepping. Prepping helps me to be less fearful and to focus on a more positive future. Maybe even gives me a false sense of control. This week:

- Bought a case of MRE’s for potential bug-out.
- Bought a case of freeze dried chicken strips
- Bought a Coleman dual-fuel lantern. Kinda like I had in the Boy Scouts.
- Joined the local chapter of ARES. (Amateur Radio Emergency Service)
- Been keeping the neighborhood in fresh Romaine, spring onions and a few cucs.
- Downloaded some local area topo maps from USGS. Great website for FREE digital topo maps and aerial images in pdf format:
http://store.usgs.gov/b2c_usgs/usgs/maplocator/(ctype=areaDetails&xcm=r3standardpitrex_prd&carea=%24ROOT&layout=6_1_61_48&uiarea=2)/.do

Funky url. Sorry about that.

You guys be particular out there…
Ridge

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Ridge:
Our families prayers go out to you and your wife. Keep us posted on how she’s doing!

charlie (NC) April 8, 2012 at 4:18 pm

sorry to hear the bad news RidgeRunner. Hang in there!
Keep us informed on Cathy’s progress.

Ms. ACW April 8, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Prayers to your wife and I hope she has a easy time during the treatment.

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Bless you and prayers to you and your wife. Any of us that have had family and or friends that have battled this disease understands the fear and feeling of impotence that goes along with this. Stay strong for her RR, stay with her and make sure she knows how much you care…….

FarmerKin April 8, 2012 at 5:02 pm

Ridge,
Sorry for the news of your wife’s condition. Prayers that you both find the strength to get though the necessary treatments ahead, and of course a full recovery for your wife.

Prepper RN April 8, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Ridge Runner,
I am so sorry to hear about Cathy. I will keep her in my daily prayers for healing and comfort. God Bless.

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 5:08 pm

Will pray for a quick healing for your wife.

grannyj April 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm

Ridge runner,
God bless Cathy, you and your family during this tough time. Half the battle is knowing what you face; and with God’s help, His hand guiding the doctors, anad the love of family and friends – you can get through this.

I will be keeping you in my prayers – remember you are not alone…

The Prepper April 8, 2012 at 7:50 pm

Ridge Runner — I’m truly sorry to hear about your wife’s fight with cancer. :( I will add both of you to my prayers, and god will definitely be in your corner fighting for you.

BamaBecca April 8, 2012 at 9:21 pm

So sorry about your wife’s diagnosis. Yall will be in my prayers. *hugs*

robert in mid michigan April 8, 2012 at 9:47 pm

prayers, and hope for you and yours,

Yankee Momma April 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Prayers for you and your wife. I will pray for strength and healing for both of you

Mary in GA April 8, 2012 at 11:07 pm

So sorry to hear this, may God bring healing and comfort, I will pray for you both.

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 10:12 pm

Prayers for you, your wife, and your family. You’re doing a great job remembering to be thankful and positive, in spite of how hard it is right now. That helps so much along the way. Hoping for all the best now and through her treatment!

charliebuck April 8, 2012 at 11:14 pm

Ridgerunner,your wife and you are in my prayers.Be Safe and May God Bless You with a cure for the wife.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:16 am

I am sorry to hear about your wife Ridge Runner. I am glad that it was caught early.I will be on my knees praying for her tonight.

mountain lady April 9, 2012 at 12:20 am

Will be praying for you and your wife. Praying for a swift and complete recovery.

DJV April 9, 2012 at 10:33 am

I will remember your wife in my prayers.

farmgal April 9, 2012 at 3:19 pm

My Prayers are with you and your wife, and hope for the best outcome possable.

Nessie April 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Ridge
Try to stay positive and upbeat, our thoughts will be with you. I’ve recently started drinking lemon concentrate in a glass of water first thing in the morning… Appears lemon has some cancer fighting goodies. I’ve also got a few bottles in my storage… Besides fighting cancer, it is great for nausea and livening up ordinary water.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/298141-benefits-of-lemon-juice-cancer/

Copperhead April 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Sorry to hear about your wife, Ridge Runner. My prayers are with you both.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm

Praying for your wife Ridgerunner. And for you, too.

NorCal Ray April 9, 2012 at 3:40 pm

RidgeRunner,
Sorry to hear about your wifes condition. We will add her to our prayer list.
Ray

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 8:25 pm

I’m terribly sorry to hear about that. I wanted to tell you about a co-worker I had once had very bad breast cancer. She stayed positive and never let it get her down, she had a great doctor, and it miraculously went away with very little chemotherapy; she didn’t even lose a strand of hair! She had alot of great support from her family, and I know your wife does too. It makes a world of difference! Stay strong :)

MtWoman April 9, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Sending healing thoughts to your wife, and you. (insert heart here)

Lantana April 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Ridge, more good thoughts and prayers from Texas for your wife and for you.

chloe April 12, 2012 at 8:08 am

Hi Ridge – prayers for your wife Cathy…I’ve been there, it is tough and scary…and know that I will be praying for you both – support is very important, and please let me know how things go if you get a chance. Blessings for a swift and full recovery.

robert in mid michigan April 8, 2012 at 9:57 am

put up more water in 2liters
got my potatoes in the ground
finished planting first round of carrots
lots and lots of yard work
increased our daily walk from one and a half miles to two

2 dak hams
4 lbs great northern beans
24 cans of vegies
4 cans of spam
25 lb wheat

not a great week but we are moving ahead.
still looking for property around here but having a real hard time as small plots cost almost as much as larger ones and taxes on larger ones are to high to keep up on.

robert in mid michigan April 8, 2012 at 10:00 am

sorry
happy easter to all
may the lord bless you and keep you
keep prepping for the worst
keep praying that we are the crazy one
god knows we dont want to be rite
may your preps never be needed
god bless

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm

robert & all,
Your list with the hams reminded me that Aldi (for those of you with one available) has their 3 pound Black Forest ham right now for $8.99. It’s a real smoked ham with great flavor, relatively low fat, and a good price.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 3:39 pm

Is that a canned ham, OH????

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm

Encourager,
No it’s vacuum packed in thick plastic. We’ve frozen them and used them months later with no problems.

Ridge Runner April 8, 2012 at 9:58 am

By the way MD. I couldn’t agree more about the MagPul mags. I love ‘em. Bought six of them awhile back. Did you get the ones with the window?

M.D. Creekmore April 8, 2012 at 3:21 pm

No not this time – but I have several with the window and they seem to work as well as the ones without…

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:08 pm

I usually buy the ones without the windows. My thought process is if I have time to look in the window, I have time to change the mag. Now things can get different in “range mode”, but I was taught to train how you fight, as “muscle memory” is what you want under stress (i.e. you want your body doing what is right and not have to stop and think about it).

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:34 am

JP, agreed! Although the 4th and 5th to last round being a tracer works as well lol.

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Jarhead 03:
Tracers are for folks in America. Here in the People’s Republic, they are classed as a Destructive Device. Each one is a felony. (Nice place to visit, but I’d hate to live here….) Cos

Jarhead 03 April 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Cosmo, so true but in a shtf scenario can you imagine a zombie that has never been on the receiving end of them? Lol, they would egress pretty fast

Carl in W.V. April 10, 2012 at 4:49 pm

4th to the last in all my mags

riverrider April 11, 2012 at 11:00 am

last 3 in mine, and all 30 in my first-response mag. i want them to know what they’re getting into:)

Jarhead 03 April 12, 2012 at 2:33 am

River, that’s how we loaded our mags for combat patrols. Its pretty gruesome to see someone hit by one and you know you have to change you mag as others cover you but its a great way to know “changing mag”

Farmer Kin April 12, 2012 at 11:42 am

Sorry for the stupid girl question, but could someone tell me what a tracer is? Thanks.

Lee (TX) April 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm

I know JarHead and RR have a better answer, but basically the bullet has a covering of Phosperous ( I believe) that ignites as it travels throught he air, leave a “trace” of its path.

Papabear April 12, 2012 at 6:19 pm

Lee(TX) you are close. There is a hollow space in the base of the bullet that has been filled with a compound. When the cartridge is fired the burning powder ignites the compound. Most tracers leave a red trail but there are also green and white.

FarmerKin April 12, 2012 at 8:06 pm

Thanks guys, I think I understand … it’s a combination of intimidation and an indication of when your mag is almost empty, right? “classed as a Destructive Device”? Why would they be illegal … are they more destructive than an ordinary bullet?

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 9:11 pm

Farmer Kin…
Lee (TX) and Papabear say it pretty well. We’ve all seen the war movies where, at night, all the gunfire is leaving streaks through the sky? Those are tracers…give gunners an idea where their rounds are going. Sometimes used at the end of a magazine so the shooter knows he’s about empty.

Lee (TX) April 12, 2012 at 8:42 pm

Jarhead, sorry for the dumb question, but how high is the fire danger when using tracer rounds? I do not want to burn my place down,,, I understand the need to know when a magizine is getting close, but is it like shooting a flare off?

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm

Farmer Kin……..
I didn’t know it was classed as a “destructive device”. But it is perfectly capable of starting fires in dry areas; and for that reason may be banned locally and selectively depending on fire conditions.
I wouldn’t class a reason for it’s existance being “intimidation” though it may well be intimidating to have them “whizzing” by your head. It is very useful in air to air combat where it is otherwise nearly impossible to know where rounds are going (can’t see bullet strikes in the target area).

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 10:38 pm

Farmer Kin…
By the way…they are no more destructive than a normal round (in so far as the impact goes) but if you were to get one lodged internally, while it’s still burning, well…you might very well think it’s more destructive!!

JP in MT April 12, 2012 at 10:59 pm

Jarhead 03 and Riverrider:

Seeing where this went with tracer rounds, do you think we should avoid talking about API (my personal favorite)?

Farmer Kin April 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Thank you all for taking the time to educate on these things. One last question on tracers (I think) … If they help a shooter know where his rounds are going, wouldn’t they also help the enemy know where the rounds came from?

Okay JP in MT, now I want to know what an API is.

I like this stuff but don’t have anyone who could teach me beyond the ordinary, so I really enjoy reading the conversations posted here, and appreciate your willingness to share. Shouldn’t have let my mom talk me out of joining the Marines.

Jarhead 03 April 14, 2012 at 2:52 am

Lee TX, using tracers in dry areas is very dangerous and I’ve seen fires set by tracers during training.

Jarhead 03 April 14, 2012 at 2:58 am

JP, highly agreed!!! +10

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 4:35 pm

The bulk of my AR mags are Magpul, both the generation 1 & 2, and other than the windows, the two types are not all that different, and have both worked flawlessly.

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 9:59 am

Happy Easter, Wolf Pack! As a new poster, I hope you will forgive my look back over the past year that I have been a “Lousy Lurker” (thank you, Lint Picker, for the term). I have been SO thankful for each and every post that added to my skills, ideas for prepping, encouragement, knowledge shared, etc. Thanks go especially to MD for this wonderful site and all the time you devote to keeping it a positive and informative experience. You are amazing! Debbie O and Lynn for soap-making information (use this soap every day) and to Gayle for so much time given to us–especially the cook book (love it!). Still praying for all members and your situations, your relatives, and friends. Mountain Woman, Bam Bam (I know), FarmGal, and so many others, you are truly an inspiration as well as a fount of knowledge. Jarhead, OhioPrepper, riverrider, thank you, too. You have so much knowledge and experience in an area that is, until quite recently, foreign to me.You all have shared so much that I almost feel I know you as friends. Sorry to not mention the rest of your names, you are all important to us! Looking forward to many more lessons in prepping as well as getting to know you all better. MD..please feel free to shorten or delete this, I apologize for the length.

Debbieo April 8, 2012 at 3:34 pm

Glad to of been of help. I am working on a new soap right now for skin parasites that contains sulfur. It will be useful in tough times. The soap is suppose to help excema, ticks, lice, scabbies, acne and other skin disorders.
Its lots of fun to make soap once you get the hang of it.
debbieo

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 10:19 pm

debbieo, I can’t wait to hear more about your new soap! It has been fun, and the best part is it helps us save money while taking so little time. Thank you again!

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:17 pm

Farmmom, thank you its nice to know what I share helps even one person do a little better than what they were. We learn from each other. I miss Lint just as much as anyone as well as the others, so its understandable. I try to fill his lint covered shoes when I can lol

DJV April 8, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Farmmomwannabe: Welcome! I’m pretty new. I read (lurked) several months before joining in as well. Yes, it’s the greatest site ever. I too have learned so much!

Papabear April 8, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Farmmomwannabe,
Welcome. Many of us started the same way, lurking without posting.

Nann!/Cruzette April 8, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Welcome to the Pack, farmmomwannabe! I think most of us here were lurkers at some point. I do more reading here than anything, and have really learned alot. Many of the posters here are so knowledgable about so many different things. I surely appreciate them sharing their info….and MD for providing this space for us, as well as his expertise.

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Thank you all for your kind welcomes.

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Nann!

I was a lurker for about five minutes. LOL I have a big mouth. That’s why I had to change my name.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:19 am

Same here Bam Bam. Another thing that I like is that you do not have to register to post.

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 12:50 am

Amen Bam Bam +1

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Farmmomwantabe,

Thanks for preserving OPSEC. But someone is really going to have to fill Hawkeye in.

farmgal April 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Welcome to the pack and so glad that you have enjoyed reading for the past while and just wonderful that you decided it was time to start posting.. Look forward to getting to know you better :)

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 10:46 pm

Farmmomwantabe….
Sorry, I missed something. “fill Hawkeye in” to what?

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Sorry, that should have been asked of Bam Bam.

Bam Bam April 12, 2012 at 10:58 pm

You are kidding, right?

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 11:13 pm

Bam Bam…
“Kidding”? Not in the slightest. Scrolled up and down here and don’t see where we have even chatted. What did I miss?

MtWoman April 13, 2012 at 8:13 am

OK…somebody’s got to figure out how to resolve this. Hawkeye…do you recognize Bam-Bam’s little yellow icon? Should look familiar to you, even though the name Bam-Bam is ‘new’. :)

Bam Bam April 13, 2012 at 9:30 am

We have chatted under my former name.

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 10:48 am

Bam Bam…..
Yes…a good nights rest and I figured it out. Love your poetry too.

Bam Bam April 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Hawkeye,

I was fixing to ask M.D. to email you. Thanks for all the concern about my former incarnation.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Welcome, farmmomwannabe, even if you’ve just been a lurker!!! I was, too, for a while. But now you can never go back to just lurking ‘cuz you have POSTED!! Welcome!

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 10:07 am

A friend of mine somehow got some ww2 tracers a few years ago.They were kinda fun to shoot.It was not dark but we could still see the tracer part.

chloe April 12, 2012 at 8:12 am

farmmom…welcome

grannyj April 8, 2012 at 10:06 am

Whew! There you are MD! Was worried when there was no WDYDTPTW posted yesterday!

To all of the WP, may God hold you in the palm of His hand – shower you with blessings and give you faith and courage to stand fast in the trials of today, and those to come. Happy Easter! He IS risen!

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 5:11 pm

Yes indeed!

Lake Lili April 8, 2012 at 10:38 pm

He is risen indeed!

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 10:50 am

Granny. I was thinking that maybe he took off for Easter.I would not hold it against him if he did.

grannyj April 10, 2012 at 7:08 am

Axel – nor would I, he deserves a day off! Just wanted to be sure he was ok. :)

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 10:31 am

I agree with that too Granny!

d2 prep April 8, 2012 at 10:10 am

Happy Easter weekend the Wolf Pack!
A slow week overall in preps, but tried to do at least one thing a day. Received M.D.’s new book 31 days to Survive and started reading it.
Went to the new land (retreat) and hiked the property and made a list of all the initial projects I need. The property is even better than I thought. I have a lot to do before I can build the cabin. Fortunaltey there are a lot of things already in place such as a well, electricity, a camping trailer, sheds and plenty of space for a garden. I will be putting s shipping container in the ground to serve as a basement. I will be setting up a remote security camera system as well. I need to clear some brush from the land and do some drainage work. I am interested in solar and wind power for the well but don’t have any experience with either, so I will be researching that and looking for helpful tidbits from the Pack.
• Ordered and received the following books:
o The Jakarta Pandemic, already started reading
o Shut Down
o How to prosper during the coming crisis of the 21st Century
o Edible plants in Northern California

• Picked up a cot at Big 5 for $39. It is rated for 250 lbs. and fits a 6 ft 2 man.
• Knocked out a medical test that will hopefully allow me to get off of another medication.
• Most of my preps for the near future will involve getting the retreat ready. I will be looking for ideas and help from the Pack!
Have a great week of preps!

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm

d2 prep,
When you said you will be putting a shipping container (I assume a standard Conex) you need to realize that simply burying on is generally a bad idea, since the strength of the top of the container is very low, with the specific exceptions of the corners. While you can stack these things fully loaded, something like 6 high, even a few feet of earth, or the equivalent weight on the top can cause a collapse. These containers make a good building block for a lot of projects; however, you need to really research their physical and mechanical limits before you start using them

d2 prep April 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Ohio Prepper, thanks for the heads up. I watched a few videos on youtube on how to put these in the ground and you are right it is not as easy as dumping it in a hole and burying it. Any suggestions from you and the Pack are greatly appreciated. I anticipate purchasing the container at the end of the month. It looks concrete will be involved for reinforcement as well as some framing.

Prepper RN April 8, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Easter Blessings, Everyone.
This week was a good one for preps.
sling shot
2 tarps
flashing tape
12 roles plumbers tape
made more laundry detergent
3 flats pint mason jars
6 cans scrubbing bubbles-free with coupons
12 cans manwich sauce\20 pounds rice
canned 8 pints kielbassa and 3 pounds of bacon
canned 8 pounds of butter
waxed 10 bars of cheddar cheese
transplanted my tomatos to large pots.
planted 2 blueberry bushes

colored eggs for fun.
Praying for our nation

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:20 pm

D2, sounds like a good week. I got my book as well and M.D. Did a good job on it, my gf has her copy and reading it as well to get a bit of incite.

DJV April 8, 2012 at 10:19 am

Good week for us. I started our Emergency Bags. I can only call them Emergency Bags because they will be BOB’s, GHB’s, 72 hour bags, etc.
All in one. So, here we go:
2 Canvas duffle style bags with handle and shoulder strap. 1 large, 1 medium
2 good flashlights and batteries
2 good head lamps with batteries
4 solar blankets
2 medium grade rain ponchos
2 “disposable” style rain ponchos
8 bandanas
2 wool army blankets
I have already purchased the food bars, bottled water, toiletries,first aid and sewing kits for them as well.
Now to assemble them! Plus gather up the other items that need to be in them that we already have such as small amounts of duct tape, paracord, etc.
Also, this week, I made 3 gallons of gumbo to divvy up in containers and put in freezer.
AND, even tho lot’s of folks had tornado damage, all we got was rain, and it filled up our first 55 gallon rain barrell!
Now to assemble them!
I have gathered up the clothes that need to go in them

DJV April 8, 2012 at 10:20 am

Sorry about that! I didn’t proofread too well!

Rex J. April 8, 2012 at 10:30 am

Hello Wolf Pack,

1. I had another full week at the high school (as sub) and think I may have made an impression on a couple of the teachers as potential preppers.
2. I put out 4 blueberry and 4 blackberry plants.
3. I started repair on my tiller, but was sent the wrong parts and will have to send them back and start over (I can repair the old one for $200 or replace it for $800).
4. I received another 10 lb vac-pak coffee.
5. I did get in an hour on the range. I don’t care what anyone else has to say, I love my 1911 and as an old deputy friend of mine use to say; “I tend to hit what I shoot at and I’d rather have 7 of these than 15 of those”.

That’s about it. Be Blessed brothers and sisters,
Rex
Matthew 24, I Tim 5:8

livinglife April 8, 2012 at 10:36 am

I started an inventory of tools, items on hand, items I will burn through quickly and trying to determine when is enough of certain items enough.
at some point there is a diminishing return due to be able to transport and or storage.
Essential legal documents are in one location, hidden in plain sight (list as Vet bills for example). Never identify import items by name, SS card, bank info etc).

Yadkin Girl April 11, 2012 at 10:28 am

Living Life,

We have all our important documents buried somewhere on our property – since you really don’t need these on a daily basis!). We also have several copies of our deeds (one in each of our BOBs, one in our regular files, one buried) and note books with all important information (phone numbers, account numbers, life insurance info, etc.) that are in our BOBs and in our shelter.

Maybe a little over the top but we feel it is neccessary.

pjwilly April 8, 2012 at 10:44 am

Happy Easter to all the Pack. Kind of a busy week with work did not get much done. DW goes in for shoulder surgery Monday Morning so this week will be busy also thats about it.

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 1:29 am

pjwilly:
Prayers for your wife. God Bless both of you. Cos

Ms ACW April 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Good luck to your wife, pj. Let us know how she does. Looks like someone in my family will be going through the same thing soon.

Lantana April 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm

pjwilly, hope your DW is resting comfortably and on her way to a speedy recovery. Good thoughts and prayers for you both.

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 10:46 am

Ended up traveling with the DW on Friday up to Great Falls, so stopped in to the Base Exchange and the Commissary. Found some really good prices but can’t justify the 380 miles trip (unless the company is paying for it!).
Got to run for now, more later.

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:03 pm

We ended up picking up quite a few things for our preps this week:

Operations:
More work on the basement & garage
Assembled and installed more shelves
Packed bulk foods in buckets and vac bag
Ammo shelves installed and sorting started

General Purchases:
4 pints of liquor (trade)

Ordered:
Scout mount for 30/30
Ordered Zapplesause and a #2.5 can of Diced Peaches
New MagPul 30 rnd AR mags ($12 ea w/free shipping) (@ botachactical.com w/”slickmag coupon)

Medical:

Guns & Gun Stuff:
Shoulder Holster for G21
2 box (50) of 45 gr 22 Mag ammo
10/22 Takedown Rifle
25 rnd Ruger Mag of 10/22
New sight system for my “ultimate” 10/22

Food (into Storage):
75 lbs of pasta (.75/lb) (plus rain check for more)
50 lbs rice
25 lbs pinto beans
6 lbs navy beans
12 boxes Mac & Cheese
13.5 lb bag of baking soda
2 jars of Tang
2 jars of Ice Tea Mix
14 pacs of Mashed Potatoes
54 rolls of TP
10 pkgs of Mountain House meals
Milk, Veg, & eggs from Honeyville
4 pkgs of Bear Creek soup
1 lg jar of Instant Coffee
1 jar of Chicken gravy mix
1 jar of Brown gravy mix
1 can of Stephen’s Hot Choc mix
4 boxes of Ocean Spray Drink Mix singles (.50/box after coupon)

Currently getting the fiber optic sights put on my take down 10/22. The project 10/22′s sights are in so I need to take it to the gunsmith to have a couple of holes drilled to keep the front sight in place.

Still got a couple of bulk items to put into buckets yet. Plus even more items from the dehydrator to put into bags and bucket up.

Got 2-6 inches of snow in town on Friday, and by Sunday noon it’s mostly gone. We need the snow in the mountains though, now enough snow pack for the plains or CA/AZ to have any water come August.

Hope every one is keeping up with the news, etc. Iran/Israel situation is getting “real interesting”.

Keep your RADAR on and the preps moving forward!

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:48 am

JP, would love to know how the Ruger mags work. I can’t get them shipped to me like AR and G21 mags that are shipped disassembled. May have to take a trip out of state.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 10:53 am

Jarhead. They just keep on giving us a reason for a road trip to Nevada or Arizona.

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:34 pm

If you are not a believer in the risen Christ, this message is not for you.

I wanted to relate some of our Easter Service today.
As has already been said this day is not about candy, pink bunnies, or colored eggs; it’s about a risen Christ.
Our church is small (about 60 people regularly attend). So starting off with 2 people getting Baptized is a big deal for us. The the 8 person Choir sang a 4 some presentation and the pastor gave a shortened message. Then, during the invitation hymn we had 3 people come forward and accept Christ! One was the husband of on the the gals who had just gotten Baptized!
It was a great day and made everything worth it!

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Awesome service, JP! Once at our former church, we had 8 come forward with about 30 in attendance. It was overwhelming. Then the praise and worship team spontaneously came forward again and we praised and worship for another two hours.
We actually went back to this former church yesterday. The original building had been sold, the church moved to an old school with a new pastor (the last pastor was the reason we left and he was caught embezzling money from the church among other charges). We met up with a handful of original members and met many new ones. We will be going back next week. We haven’t been to church in over 8 months.

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 2:11 am

My nephew got baptized a few weeks ago. I gave him a nice pocketknife as a gift for the ocoason.I am proud of him he is almost 16 and it was his decision.

charliebuck April 10, 2012 at 11:44 pm

Thats good to hear about your nephew,axelsteve.I like to think there is some hope for the youth of today,that they still believe in The Lord Jesus Christ.Thank You for encouraging him.Be Safe brother.

ROBIN April 8, 2012 at 10:55 am

How do you handle unprepared individuals ?
Just as soon as an emergency arises, I’ve two 20something male family members who will show up on our doorstep with zero food & water, no weapons or sleeping bags, no cash, their ball caps on backwards with lots of tattoos and low IQ’s, but large appetites.

Debbieo April 8, 2012 at 3:36 pm

Make em work. The bible says if you dont work you dont eat.
Thats the rules. They can hoe the garden, stand lookout, hunt or what ever you need done.
debbieo

Ohio Surveyor April 8, 2012 at 4:09 pm

I would see that the only thing they brought with them is their ability to work …work hard and work long….put those 2 to work. They should be good for at least 14 hours a day. If they dont work then they dont stay. I too will be having a “brain full of mush” show up to my place with their hands out. I have stored extra in antiscapation of them showing up. If they do show up they will be put to good use doing manual labor.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 3:57 pm

I surely agree to that! I have a few sit-on-thier-butt-and-expect-someone-else-to-serve-them relatives who, if they show up, will be housed in a tent outside or in whatever they arrived in. Their first job will be to dig a pit toilet eight feet deep, and then build the out-house around the hole. When they are done with that, I will give them dinner and they can sit on the front steps to eat it. They will have to earn a bed in the house! Seriously! That may sound pretty harsh, but that is the only way to teach them they have to work to eat. If they refuse, a mini-meal (on the steps) and they can hit the road.

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:18 pm

My first instinct would be to tell them to get their money back for the tat’s and eat that. However, this is a question that we will each have to answer when that time comes (and it will happen to all of us). I don’t happen to have any relatives that live that particular life style that don’t already know what the answer would be so they are not likely to come 600+ miles just to be told again, but there are neighbors that are within a couple of blocks that haven’t gotten the message yet. My basic response (as of today) is I am not responsible for your poor decisions. It might happen that that may get modified as I gain more supplies before that time and their situation/attitude at the time.

Cain April 8, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Move and leave no forwarding address. Sorry, just couldn’t help myself.

Sounds like a case of tough love is needed. If they are not willing to stock up on some supplies or at least learn a skill that is beneficial to a group, then there is no room and board for them.

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 4:55 pm

ROBIN,
The best thing IMHO to do right now, is to inform them that they are not welcome, or come up with a printed list of a minimum set of criteria that one must have to be welcome. A written or printed list can’t be misunderstood, and will spell out exactly what is required and expected from everyone.
If they show up anyway, refuse them entry.
If they force entry, then you, like each of us, must individually decide ahead of time, how to handle the situation.
A lot of this will depend on your own situation, such as amount of preps, amount of space available, whether or not you have additional family members like children, and their ages, etc.
This is one of those moral dilemmas that we must each deal with in our own way, based on our own obligations, resources, morals, and situation.

alikaat April 8, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Most of us plan on preps for whom we expect in our homes. If there are rotten fruit on the family tree (and I suspect most of us have some), it may be helpful to buy better locks. It is your house, so just being family doesn’t automatically guarantee them a bed, but they are family. Feel the out; talk to them beforehand. They might surprise you. Preps are not just about food. Do they enjoy the range? Do they know how to hunt? There are other skillsets that may be useful in a SHTF world, and they may be able to earn their keep performing some of these. If they don’t want to work, if they refuse to prep, they don’t have to eat.
Good luck,
Cat

Hawkeye April 8, 2012 at 5:32 pm

ROBIN………

Sounds like “Zombies”. You can support them (at your own peril) or ??????

David April 8, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Give them a list now of what to bring. And they need to bring it _every_ time they come. When they arrive, they need to cut and split wood for the stove. They can leave some of it at your place just so they don’t have to haul all of each time. But some of it they should always haul like sleeping bags, because they might get stranded.

David April 9, 2012 at 8:56 am

Edit: “They can leave some of it…” meant gear, not cut wood.
And each and every visit they should work to get them used to the idea.

Patti April 8, 2012 at 6:31 pm

They should dig the latrine ;)

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Robin, be frank with them. I’ve told family members and friends that know I prep that they are not invited to the dinner table unless they have something to contribute.

I had a couple friends and family members like that a within weeks before Y2K. They came over (I was expecting they would so I moved all of my pantry and other preps into my room locked the door and dead bolt) they were told they had to sleep on the floor since the couch was reserved for two friends that “brought something to the table” and when asked about bedding I gave them a blanket and sheet with no pillow telling them they had the floor since the other room was for my mom, sister and baby nephew.
When they asked about food I gave them directions to the nearest food 4 less and Albertsons informing them they weren’t eating mine.

When asked about ammo for their firearms I smiled and asked what happened to the box a paycheck I suggested and they got the point and left. They bought beer instead. I bought beer to but still managed to prep.

Be tough on them, teach them but if they don’t want to comply, its on them. If you don’t hear from them, so be it. Its hard when its family and close friends but they need it.

Give a man a fish….. Teach a man to fish…. Still rings true till this day. Good luck.

West Texas April 9, 2012 at 6:59 am

Give man a fire, he’ll be warm for a day… catch a man on fire, he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 4:01 pm

West Texas, remind me not to have a mouth full of coffee when I read your posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMBO

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm

West Texas, lol agreed! There is someone in Texas in custody I hope they fry very soon. Its what I love about Texas, express lane for the death penalty, he will fry in fire for eternity.

charliebuck April 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm

I agree Jarhead!!Cop killers should be shot and killed at the scene!

Papabear April 8, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Hi Robin,

Hand them a broom, shovel, rake or other implement and point them to the work to be done. Tell them “no work, no eat”. Be strict about holding them to that rule. Also be sure to keep your food, cash and valuables locked up and out of sight.

livinglife April 8, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Harsh but the reality is they are a liability for your chances of survival. Either prep for them or be prepared to tell them no. Better to tell them up front rather than wait for them to show up when TSHTF.

BamaBecca April 8, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Put them to work!!! And be sure to tell them that the rule is: “You don’t work, you don’t eat!”

village idiot April 8, 2012 at 11:15 pm

I have a unique situation. My retreat at this moment is the family-owned deer camp on 80 acres of land that belonged to my grandpa. The land has never been divided, so it is family owned, has a large deer camp that sleeps 18, a 3 bedroom home, and 2 mobile homes. The problem is that any person in the family has the right to be there. Of course, most of the family live over 500 miles away, so there is little chance very many will make it. But those that do will have a place to sleep, even if they don’t bring anything to eat. This is not the best situation, but it’s the best option I have right now. Any thoughts, WolfPack?

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 1:45 am

village:
I can’t really help you make up your mind. What are your relatives who might show up like? Any vets, medical folks, farmers?…. I’d rather have an ex-Marine with his rifle than an accountant with food. I don’t see any way you won’t have to share what you have. Kind of like welfare… Sorry I didn’t have a better solution. Good Luck. Cos

village idiot April 9, 2012 at 4:44 pm

2 lawyers, 1 dentist, 1 welder(I should have put him first), 1 coach, 1 HR guy in Angola, 1 civil engineer, 1 nurse, 2 real estate agents, 1 plumber, and their families. The only ones likely to make it are the civil engineer, the plumber and possibly the welder. The rest are over 500 miles away. None are preppers, and all have families, more girls than boys, and most are teenage girls who have never done anything other than what they want to. I guess I better buy more food since I can’t get ammo right now anyway. I’m afraid you’re right, cos. More welfare.

Nessie April 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Village
Are the people closest to the location like-minded? Or can you form a pact or mutual understanding with a few key family members? I would think about making alliances and having like-minded family members know where you stand, and kind of perhaps establish yourself in the leadership role with key people to support you…
The last thing you want is to be overrun by “legal” moochers and have everything vanish. Maybe some buried caches. And at least they can’t take your knowledge…
Good luck, I’ll be interested to follow how this goes.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 3:54 pm

vi, could you subdivide it after everybody comes? then to each their own. if they want food ,they work or trade for it. i have next to worthless wife’s family coming, love the way they just assumed they were welcome. other than divorce i have no choice but lay in more buckets for them. nothin says they have to eat top shelf, just eat:)

Clippins April 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Village Idiot

My Dad and my Uncle were depression era kids one year apart in age. There motto and way of life until they moved out was ” first up BEST dressed”. Since you are family and deserving of use of the 80 acres, and seem to be “first up”, pick out the spot you think is “best dressed”. Nessie and Riverrider are both right with their points in finding like minded ones within your family and possibly sub dividing too. Good luck with this.
Clippins

livinglife April 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm

I would guess that when deer camp is on, everyone shares responsibilities, no reason for that to change. Just because they are there, does not make them your responsibility.
Do they know you prep? Yes its an OPSEC issue but put out the feelers. Either way, casually mention that you will not supply anyone who shows up when you are there nor would you after SHTF.

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 10:34 am

Thanks all. I’m quite concerned about OPSEC, and wouldn’t approach any of my family members from a prepper/survivalist viewpoint. Most, but not all, are on the other side of the political divide, and believe the government can solve all problems. Of course, after an event, they would most likely have a change-of-heart, and be very interested in moving out of the city and using the old farm as a retreat, if they could get here. Most just wouldn’t bring anything useful to the table other than the welder, plumber, nurse and dentist.

It’s not that I wouldn’t want to help my family, it’s just not possible for me to prep for all of them. I may just add a lot of rice and beans, and as river says, they can eat off “the bottom shelf”.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 3:43 pm

village, can you move? LOL. Cos

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm

No, I can’t move, cos. If I could, I would rectify this situation quickly, but being close to family has caused me to have to change my retreat plans. Right now, this is the best I can do. If given some more time, I will have a much better option. I’m praying for some more time. Thanks.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Village:
Sorry friend, I was joking. I’m between a rock and a rock at present too. (My choice.) God Bless you Sir., Cos

Farmer Kin April 12, 2012 at 1:05 pm

VI, I have a couple of thoughts.
Has there been any discussion on sub-dividing the propery? If not, maybe you could bring it up. If you could get that done now, you could at least make your own area ready, with no assumed communal rights to what is yours if TSHTF. If you can’t get it sub-divided, can you take your own trailer to the site and prep it anyway. Push come to shove, they may still try to guilt you, but there would at least be a little bit of a separation between “yours” and “ours”, and give you more control over your charity.

Another thought, how does the Deer Camp get stocked? Does everyone bring stuff with them when they come? Maybe you could volunteer to do all the shopping and stocking of the camp for everyone (you know, since you’re closer and all). They could all just chip in on the cost and maybe be very greatful to have that burden off their back. They would be helping to prep without even knowing it … and with your skills, you could do a better job at it anyway.

Last thought, if these folks don’t regularly visit the property now, they may never even think of it in a SHTF situation. You may have the whole place to yourself. I think I would prep extra seeds and garden tools just in case … then you could even put the lawyers to good use.

Good luck.

village idiot April 13, 2012 at 12:21 am

Great ideas, Farmer Kin. The truth is that most of them don’t deer hunt, and they visit the old farm to rest and relax and get away from the city. Most of them live in Texas, with the Houston area containing the largest number, but some live in College Station, Waco and the Dallas area. The rest are scattered around, but Illinois, So. Louisiana, and California have the most outside Texas. One works and lives in Africa.

There are just too many heirs to sub-divide. As for deer season, each person brings their own supplies. And no, I honestly don’t think the vast majority would ever make it here in a SHTF situation, and I may be obsessing about nothing. I’m just trying to be ready for all possibilities. Thanks for the good advice.

Natalia April 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm

What about unofficially subdividing. I.E., you as “caretaker” get this corner over here that you can fence off and use as you wish.

Ellen April 8, 2012 at 11:00 am

Got to watch 3 past episodes of Doomsday Prepper on the On Demand thing on cable.
I guess because I am a Wolf Pack follower and internet prepping junkie the things they showed other than the bug out locations and types was pretty ordinary.
All in all found it to be a simplification of what prepping is about, all though they did try to put a title to each families reason for prepping.
I really think I would rather watch extreme couponer’s even if I do find them to be a bit on the greedy side. And besides I lean towards the food/cooking/kitchen tools/Sundry aspect of prepping.
There is only one plus I can see for the program. I think that people sitting on the sidelines this show would validate their feelings and therefore get them to prepping.
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Well went back to my regular prepping/shopping. So thankful.
3 hash browns (all they had in the place)
1 saline nasil spray
1 metholatum sauve
10 solar lights (cheapo’s )
2 large boxes of salt
2- 1 ounce packs of pepper corns
2- 12 pack of toilet paper
1 5 lb sugar
2 things of napkins (figure if things get really bad we can wipe our face/hands on our sleeves and our toosh with the napkins)
50 travel size items for future use and/or trade
1 cocoa
2 small oats
2 aluminum foil (for outdoor cooking and hats to keep the alien/enemy rays from hitting our brain matter)
*10 taco mixes (* gluten free) Western Family brand
10 brown gravy mixes
filled 4 more 2 litre soda bottles with water. Have more to do but no place to keep them. But will figure out something as WATER IS MOST IMPORTANT.
2 lg bleach
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My daughter and grand daughter have done a tremendous job on their gardening. Would like prayer that they are sucessful and that it produces so they will continue to garden.
I am so proud of them. And proud of the grandson and son-in-laws forced labor part of it.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 11:31 pm

Ellen,
It sounds like you had a great week prepping! Your nasal spray reminded me that I’m going to need to stock up on allergy stuff. I, too, tend to lean more on the side of foodstuffs. Doomsday Preppers is a show I love for the same reason I love the same reason I love the Wolf Pack: I know that I’m not alone. It gives me a spark of hope for when SHTF.
Will definitely keep my fingers crossed for your family’s garden endeavors!

Krystle April 10, 2012 at 10:46 am

Guess I should have proofread that one a little better…

axelsteve April 8, 2012 at 11:13 am

M.D.. How do you like that scout rifle? Have you written a revue on it?I have seen a ruger scout at the local gunshop ,though it is a different animal then the Savage.Thanks for your forum.

M.D. Creekmore April 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm

axelsteve,

I love my Savage Scout rifle – I plan on writing a review as soon as I have time.

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:44 pm

M.D., looking forward to it. Since I’m almost were I want to be on 223 ammo, I’m trying to justify an additional caliber. If I do, I’m looking at two rifle (one bolt and one semi-auto)

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 10:56 am

Jarhead. You may be able to get it in 223 from the Savage custom shop. I read that you can get it in left handed that way.
You also may be able to get it in the sks caliber.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 6:18 pm

Thanks axel, I have. 24″ for the AR, I did the research on the Savage in 7.62X39 and didn’t like the reported ballistics unless I handloaded them myself. I like the Savage and Remington in 308.
I’ve done a good job getting down to five calibers, if I move to six I would have to make room and change the stack, 308 is getting expensive so buying in bulk could be difficult so I would have to mostly buy when its on sell and have three types of (ball, match and hunting) loads.

axelsteve April 10, 2012 at 2:17 am

I was at a sporting good store and 100 308 bullets,bullets alone mind you was 32 or 34 dollars.308 is not a cheap round.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 7:55 pm

axelsteve,
Some of the old timers got whole Portugese surplus rounds at 13 cents each. (I sure do envy those guys and gals!) Cos

Jarhead 03 April 10, 2012 at 11:04 pm

Cosmo, I used to have 10,000 Rounds of US ball belt ammo (acquired) and maybe 5,000 rounds Venezuelan in battle packs (worked at Turners in 97/98) and shot or sold off the rest when I got rid of the FAL. I was looking at an M1A and the DPMS version of an AR10 with a 16″ barrel.

Ms. ACW April 8, 2012 at 11:18 am

My old bod is definitely tired, still working all week to get yard work caught up. But I did manage to get a little prepping done so here is my list:

2 jars of mayo, used a rain check for 2/$5, saved over $3
3 boxes of cereal
4 pounds brown sugar
10 lbs. flour, foodsavered and in freezer
4 cases of our favorite soft drink
(last four items on all on sale)
bottle of tea tree oil for first aid kit
small battery operated smoke alarm for basement
10 inch folding saw
20 medium butterfly bandages on clearance at Walmart
cayenne pepper plant
6 quart preseasoned Lodge dutch oven

DH built two grow boxes for planting and I planted cayenne pepper, sweet white onions, and scallions. I want to try some red potatoes in a pot too. That will give us tomatoes, onions, potatoes, oregano, lettuce, chives, cayenne peppers, sage, and rosemary in addition to my flower garden that gives me so much pleasure.

One exciting update, my SIL finally got a job this week. It is starting out part time but if he does well he can upgrade to full time. My DD says he will continue looking but he is very excited because the job is only two miles from their house. He used to drive about 80 miles round trip everyday and the cost of gas was killing their budget. They are newbie preppers and this will really help.

I pray for this nation every day, we face a challenging time ahead. If TDL is reelected this fall, he has given plenty of signals where he plans to take this country and it isn’t the same vision most patriots have.

Ms. ACW April 8, 2012 at 4:46 pm

I knew I would forget something: I received from Amazon two books I ordered last week. I highly recommend them for your first aid knowledge. They are “Pearson’s 2011 Nurse’s Drug Guide and Medicine for the Outdoors: The Essential Guide to Emergency Medical Procedures and First Aid by Paul Auerbach, MD. If you stock any antibiotics for SHTF you definitely need a drug guide. I felt it wasn’t essential to have a 2012 guide and the 2011 was cheaper. The book by Auerbach is really good and goes beyond your standard first aid book that goes “blah, blah, blah, seek medical treatment…” which may be difficult at some point. If you gave no other first aid book, I highly recommend this one.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 12:31 pm

Thanks for the recommendations; they’re on my wish list now.

Rich Muszynski April 8, 2012 at 11:20 am

greetings. cutting up another 20 feet of heavy cable from a skidder, which is a logging machine that is used to drag logs out of the forest. cut it into about 6 inch lengths to be used to make laminated steel for making damascus layered steel for knifes and tools. putting in my ghost pepper seeds to sprout. these are actually named Bhut Jolokia and are enormously hot. thousands of times hotter then habinaro. we have our first frost free date on 21 June so a while yet before they can go out. building a second humanure composting toilet, next project is one for my travel trailer.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:31 am

Greetings Rich! Thousands of times hotter then jabinaro? What are you growing,bio weapons?I hope that your blade project works out it sounds cool.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 4:04 pm

My son is growing ghost peppers and has a few for my garden…think they will go into the very back corner so nobody accidentally brushes up against those babies.

Fred Alexander April 8, 2012 at 11:20 am

Living in the city (Santa Monica, Ca) and in a condominium it is difficult to prepare. For several months I have been researching the storage of water, food, etc. I received a Costco magazine and there were my answers: (1) they offered a source for a 60 day food supply (individual meals in plastic pouches, 15 year life span) and (2) 60 gallons of water in a polyethylene drum. I purchased those items, placed the 400+ pounds of water on a flat dolly with wheels, added a half of cup of Clorox and hid the items in my garage area below my raised storage bin (totally covered.) I understand a new plastic drum can leach gases so it is best to drain and refill a couple of times (something the mfg does not tell you.) I also purchased extra butane tanks for my BBQ grill and rounds of ammo for my 38. In addition I purchased a small portable water purifier, first aid kit and a 3 day supply of food items that I keep in my car as I go to the Colorado River quite often.

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 6:53 pm

Fred, its tough in that environment trying to prep and stock up (been there in an apartment) and a good job on the water and food. A 3 Day bag is good for the River runs, I have the same set up for the Vegas/Laughlin/River/Phoenix runs with extra water and portable shade canopy during the warm/hot months. If you are taking a boat with you, its good to have water stored on the boat, the empty jugs can be used as extra flotation devices.

Sunny April 8, 2012 at 11:24 am

Happy Easter,

Checked out book on wheat grass juicing and researched manual
juicers. Seems like a good alternative use of wheat storage and would help with food fatigue.

Ordered solar/hand crank radio and sprout jar. Picked up bars of handsoap for storage.

Target practice w/DH tried out his new Taurus an like the way it handled.

MENTALMATT April 8, 2012 at 11:26 am

Bought more Keystone canned meats, you cant beat them. Also got more bottled water, and looking to buy more ammo from the Sportsmans Guide, 223, and 308. To M. D. and the rest of the Wolf Pack Happy Easter from all of us here in the “D”. God Bless

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 1:41 pm

mm, check out ammoman. shipping included in the prices.

NorCal Ray April 8, 2012 at 11:28 am

First of all. Happy Easter Everyone. He is Risen. Please remember what today is really all about. It is not about candy and colored eggs. It is about Christ rising from the dead.

M.D. I will be ordering your book this week through your link. Ihope everything is going well for you and your family and your Girl Friends Family.

On to preps for the week. Worked in the garden this week. Harvested a bunch of Strawberries and Peas this week. Everything else is looking good. The Beefsteak Tomato already has a small tomato on it. Cant wait till it is big enough to eat.

As for store bought preps I picked up a few things for free after selling 4 boxes of .30/30 ammo that was in the package deal to someone else.
This deal consisted of 1 pound of IMR 3031 Powder, 1 pound of Blue Dot Powder (both cans of powder were brand new and never been opened), a NIB RCBS Case Trimmer, a NIB RCBS Pro Powder Trickler, and two 25 rd. 2 boxes 12ga Bird Shot, and 4 boxes of .30/30
ammo which I sold for enough to pay for everything else. From the same store I bought 20 rds. 55gr. .223 S.P. Ammo.
From another customer I picked up 2 x 5 rd. boxes 20ga. Buckshot, 2 x 5 rd. boxes 20ga. Slugs, 40rds .410 Buckshot, and a tube of Bowstring Wax.

On a lighter note I guess this qualifies as a piece of mind Prep. I took
the DW to breakfast yesterday morning. When we were done we picked up the DD from her friends house and I took the DD shopping for shoes for her Prom dress. 9 hours later she ended up buying the very first pair she looked at that day. Next we have to get her a Clutch and then my part is done. Yea. What a pain that was. 2 malls and not one single sporting goods, camping or even Dept. Store that had Guns, Fishing Goods or even tools.
Happy Easter to all.,
Ray

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 5:24 pm

He is indeed!

You have my sympathies with the shopping. Not my favorite thing.

NorCal Ray April 8, 2012 at 11:20 pm

Judy, another one,
It’s not mine either but it had to be done. She’s a good kid and deserved it.
Ray

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 6:02 pm

NorCal Ray,
He is Risen indeed.

You’re a good dad. We did the same for our DD last month, then we got to do the dress shopping. Now working on shortening/hemming that “perfect” dress. This is all time well spent, you’re building valuable memories.

NorCal Ray April 8, 2012 at 11:19 pm

farmmomwannabe,
Thanks. I got lucky as she went to the city with some friends and bought the dress over there. We just got the dress back from having it hemmed. Looks great.
Ray

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:44 am

Ray. If you can survive a shopping with your daughter and wife.You can survive more then allot of men can.My hat is off to you my friend.

NorCal Ray April 9, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Thanks steve. I appreciate it.
It’s not my favorite past time.
Ray

mama April 8, 2012 at 11:38 am

husband and i have been working in the garden-we got some fruit trees and blackberry plants and a dwarf banana tree- and my aloe vera seems to be growing pretty well- i am gathering things in preparation for us repacking our supplies and inventorying them. i bought more toilet paper and am keeping track of how much we actually use…lol. also mosquito season is around the corner so i ordered some skin so soft- it is on sale online for 43% off- and tried to come up with a way to stretch it- i think i may have found a solution- pampered chef makes a oil spritzer i am going to try and use with the skin so soft. i will let everyone know how it works. are there any other methods – natural that anyone tell me about- i get bit a lot every year- not so much where we live now but my poor grandkids get eaten up in the Houston area. my aunt gave us some camo clothing i washed and put up in our supplies. i bought some gun cleaning supplies but read about some cheaper alternatives- has anyone got any opinions on this? it was some kind of automotive cleaners and oil. i dont want to ruin my guns.
also thanks to bam bam for the dishwasher soap recipe
i hope everyone’s gardening is going well- spring in here i think for most of us

Nessie April 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

Mama
I’ve heard garlic tablets, taken like a vitamin, can repel biting bugs.

BarbeeBunch April 8, 2012 at 11:56 am

I finished my 31 Days to Survival book and highly recommend it! I started writing my Plan of 3 plans as recommended in the last chapter (read the book). I also got my squash, cucumbers, and strawberries planted in my raised garden. I bought 10 chicks as my chicken coop is almost finished. I added a lot more information to my survival notebook. Bought an 11 quart dutch oven for thermal cooking, a few more oil lamps, and a few more packs of seeds to put back. My fiance cooked some wonderful chicken and rice in the solar cooker he built. I also found a wood-burning stove I want at Harbour Freight Tools for $125.00 … It’s on my list. That’s about it for this week. Hope everyone has a Happy Easter.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 11:40 pm

AAAH! Hubby and I LOVE Harbor Freight!! We get alot of our stuff there. They are having a sale this week, I believe. If you sign up for their emails you get some great coupons. Happy Prepping!

Debbie April 8, 2012 at 12:32 pm

Good sales this week in the meat department so I’ve canned up:
6 pints of ham sandwich spread more after Easter dinner :)
24 pints pork loin
22 pints beef in red wine sauce
Good sale on butter canned up:
46 half pints of butter
Then I also stockpiled:
8 rolls paper towels
96 roll toilet paper (24 rolls free thanks to coupons!)
15 cans soup for cooking ($.20 ea thanks to coupons!)
20 electrolite drinks (free thanks to coupons!)
3 lbs additional nuts (BOGO)
20 lbs sugar (almost free with coupons)
25 lbs soft white wheat berries (to go with hard white)
Non food:
50 one gallon mylar bags
50 oxygen absorbers
3000 round of 22 LR (on a souper dooper sale, for learning with)
1 homemade faraday box for emergency radios
1 propane 2 mantel camp light
4 small propane tanks for above light
1 bottle Cougar urine (yes, you read that right, hoping to keep the deer away with this and an electric fence…live in a subdivision, you’d think they’d not travel to my back yard!)
Continue to work on my vegi starts in the greenhouse and am hoping for nice weather to start soon, down to 34 degrees last night. Thanks to all in the Wolf Pack for the great advice and insight!

Lee (TX) April 8, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Debbie, have you used an electric fence to deter deer before?, what works for me is a double fence setup,,,around 6 ft between them,,, the outside is NOT hot, the inner is,,,,the deer jump or go under it,,,there is not enough room for them to jumb the inner electric fence, but when they get shocked they can escape by going under the outer fence, that is probable as clear as mud, but you can find a diagram with a little searching.,,,what I like the best is a 6 foot fence with 24 inch chicken wire at the bottom to stop the rabbits.

Penny Pincher April 9, 2012 at 11:47 am

A recipe someone gave me for deer repellant is crack some eggs into a bucket of water, and add a bunch of cayenne pepper, mix it up and let it ferment a day or two so it really stinks, then put that on your plants. Dunno if it works or not, never tried it myself. I’d be afraid of the germs from the eggs.

Bwhntr57 April 12, 2012 at 5:40 pm

Hi Debbie-Wow that is some impressive couponing! can I ask where you get these wonderful coupon deals? Thanks and good preps.

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Christ has risen. Happy Easter to All!

I have been so busy with holy week that the only thing I’ve done was bought a new pair of boots. I have a few things to report: the tangelo oil that I made turned out okay. It’s not as strongly scented as the stuff you get from the store but it worked. And for the price, it’s definitely worth it. The sauerkraut I made does not look too good. It is not fermenting. I am thinking I might throw it out. I did write a couple of articles for this blog, one one recipes for cooking beans and another on how to save money. I am looking forward to commentary on those–if M.D. finds them worthy of publication.

My garden is doing well. My tomatoes continue to set fruit. The first green tomato is still green but continues to get bigger. My yellow squash have set fruit and I’ve got baby squash. My cilantro is as tall as my tomato plants and has started to flower. Am I suppose to cut the blooms off? I am hoping that someone will have an answer.

That’s it for me.

Ready2Go April 8, 2012 at 4:25 pm

If you leave the blooms on they will go to seed and you’ll have corriander….and no more plant growth. I keep the blooms clipped (deadheaded) until the end of the season…then I let them bloom and set seed.

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Ready2Go,

Thanks. That’s what I was thinking but wasn’t sure.

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm

He is indeed!

LonghairCountryboy April 8, 2012 at 12:47 pm

Finished the chicken tractor, and got the chicks out of the brooder and into their new home. Looks like I have about 8 Roosters out of my dozen, so will have some meat for the freezer in a few months.

Planted 2 new Blueberry bushes, 2 red raspberry bushes, and 2 blackberry bushes. Got the potatoes, lettuce, carrots, peas, and onions planted. Will get the red beans, pole beans, broccoli, brussel sprouts, and cauliflower planted today.

Going to be a busy Fall, canning, freezing, and dehydrating around this house!

Katie April 8, 2012 at 9:25 pm

I am just getting into chickens. They are still in the garage in the stock tank. How old were yours before you moved them outside and how old are you going to let the roosters get before you put them in the freezer? I was thinking Mother’s Day to put them out into the chicken tractor as they would be 8 weeks old then. Thanks for your advice.

I'm A Prep Kat April 9, 2012 at 9:02 am

I lost my 6 New Hampshire Reds this week. The first one died the day after they arrived and the others followed. Very sad :(. I’ve kept chickens for years, get chicks several times a year and this has never happened. Not even a lesson learned situation as I have no clear idea why they died.

On a better note – went an Amish family I know and was able to buy 6 five-week old Red Comet crosses. They went right outside to the “baby coop” and are doing fine. :)

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 11:46 pm

Every time I hear the world “chicken tractor” I picture a chicken driving a John Deere. I wonder how they came up with the name “chicken tractor”.

Plant Lady April 9, 2012 at 10:30 am

I think “chicken tractor” (portable pen) is used as a descriptive name because the chickens scratch at the ground to find and eat plants, seeds and bugs. This works up the soil just like a tractor would with a plow, disc and drag. Works even better than a tractor in that the chickens will also eat the weeds, weed seeds and insects and turn them into valuable organic fertilizer, which they work into the ground with their scratching. This will save hours of back-breaking labor on your part, especially after TSHTF, when fuel for “regular” tractors, rototillers, etc. is scarce or non-existant.

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Plant Lady,

Now that makes sense. LOL

farmmomwannabe April 9, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Thank you, that’s the best explanation I’ve heard.

KEVBRO April 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm

I went to the Gun show and bought lots of ammo and some Magpul Mags also and some Mags for my Glock. Picked up some knives and this and thats for my ARs and some flash lights. Also got my copy of 31 Days to Survival and started reading it. I look forward to doing some of the projects. Thats it this week.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:58 am

Kecbro, good job, never neglect your Glock, they always need more mags lol.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 10:58 am

Better to have too many then not enough mags

Carl in W.V. April 10, 2012 at 10:34 am

I had to convince DW that 17 mags for my AR was not too many when i found 5 magpuls this weekend for 15.00 apiece

Carl in W.V. April 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

OBTW DW say’s if I be good this week she may let me get more lol. She knows that i bought two but i had a friend to pick me up three more lol.

Nessie April 10, 2012 at 11:15 am

Jarhead and others…
What is your experience or opinion on Promag magazines? I was debating Promag vs Mecgar, which I know is good, and went with Promag since they were USA, but kow nothing about how the Promag holds up. Anything to watch for? I’m still waiting for delivery.
Thanks

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Nessie:
My Promags are 15 years old or so. At that time, they were good quality products. (Kind of a non-answer, but nobody else chimed in.) Cos

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 12:02 am

Nessie, they are good for most weapons but I do not recommend them for Mini 14, Mini 30, Glock or any other firearm designed for plastic mags.
I owned both manufacturers them for my Ruger P90, Smith and Wesson 908 as well as my Bersa 380 and they worked fine.

riverrider April 11, 2012 at 10:47 am

i’m mecgar all the way. never a problem w/ my browning hp with mec mags, and it picky.. jm2c.

Nessie April 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm

Thanks for the response guys. They seemed good quality online, and the metal mags are definitely what we wanted for our models. Here’s to hoping they fit and pass the field test!

Hunker-Down April 8, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Happy Easter to everyone!

M.D. good luck with the garden, I wish we had your growing season.

We ordered 3 apple, 2 pear and 3 grape plants last week.

We received heirloom tomato seeds, ‘Magnum Beefsteak’ from Heirloom Tomatoes; Danvers carrot, Sugar Baby watermelon, Black Beauty zucchini and Beit Alpha cucumber from Baker Creek Heirloom Seed Co.

We are beginning our second year of growing and saving heirloom seeds. I am anxious to see how the seeds we saved last year will produce ‘true to type’.

We filled two 55 gallon plastic barrels with a planting mix of peat, vermiculite, chicken dodo, cow (and maybe bull) dodo, and minerals. I formed 72 ‘cups’ around the side of the barrels for the plants and inserted a four inch PVC pipe in the center for watering. I sold some empty barrels to neighbors. I pulled the seed potatoes out of the fridge today and will cut the ‘eyes’ in a day or two to plant in the 2 barrels. I filled two 30 gallon barrels, one for strawberries and one for the DW’s flowers. The 30 gallon barrels have 42 ‘cups’ formed around the sides for the plants.

We hope to find heirloom vegetables we can grow and preserve with the goal of accumulating a seed bank that will last 5 years of ‘true to type’ seeds. One of this year’s goals is to accumulate 5 years of zucchini seeds AND prepare 150 small zucchini bread to last the next two years. The problem is, we like delicata squash because of its keeping properties and small plant size, BUT it will cross with zucchini. So, this year we will plant zucchini and next year plant the delicata squash and attempt to save 5 years of its seed. But that means we can’t plant (for seed saving purposes) any zucchini next year.

We bought and skimmed the book “The Beginners Guide to growing HEIRLOOM VEGETABLES”. On page 237 the author states that tomatoes WILL CROSS-POLLINATE.
Another source, http://howtosaveseeds.com/preserve.php about half way down the page says;

Not All Plants Will Cross
Happily, some vegetable varieties are exclusively self-pollinating and can be grown with virtually no danger of crossing. These plants include beans, cowpeas and tomatoes.

OK, esteemed Wolf Pack gardeners, who is right? Will tomatoes cross-pollinate?

Kelekona April 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Sorry, all I got is hearsay about how our neighbor ended up with tomatoes that gained a high capsasin content from the hot peppers.

We tried it in a planting box, but the tomatoes had blossom-end rot and the peppers didn’t come in until we had abandoned the planter at my mother’s. We’ll let you know if we have any trouble this year by growing tomatoes with peppers.

I wonder if keeping different types of squashes at opposite ends of the yard will help with crossing issues.

Debbie April 8, 2012 at 8:06 pm

Kelekona,

Blossom end rot suggests a lack of calcium in your soil. Add a ground up Tums or buy something to increase the calcium in your soil.

Kelekona April 9, 2012 at 9:04 am

Yeah, I learned that lesson too late, not sure which brand of soil we had. It seems like the last tomatoes grown in the shade after I dropped them off fared better.

I told DH to start saving eggshells as a precaution against the slugs and snails finding the garden. Plus we’re using different soil.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 11:45 pm

I read somewhere that adding epsom salts to the soil around your tomatoes will give them magnesium which they love, and is also a great slug/snail deterent. If you try it, let me know how it works.

I'm A Prep Kat April 9, 2012 at 9:10 am

we use ground up eggshells. It keeps the slugs aways too :)

Penny Pincher April 9, 2012 at 11:43 am

pour milk on the soil. If you have milk that is starting to go. Or you can crunch up egg shells into the soil.

Debbieo April 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm

Could you explain how you formed the (cups) around the barrel. I know what you are talking about I am just wondering how you did it.
Thanks,
debbieo

Lynda N.CA April 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm

We grow seed commercially. Tomatoes and beans don’t often cross…you should be safe. I plant a large garden next to 1000′s of acres of squash, melons, cukes (vineseeds)…my husband gets mad because he worries about cross-pollination in his fields from my garden. I just bag up my flowers and hand pollinate and after 20 odd years we haven’t had a problem. Brown paper bags and a camel hair paint brush…a bit time-consuming but it’s something I enjoy. I’ve even made a few of my own favorite hybrids.

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Steve Solomon in Gardening When It Counts states, on page 139, “. . . solanums – tomato, pepper, eggplant – which are also self-pollinating species. . .” One would think he would know as he founded Territorial Seed Co.

SW April 8, 2012 at 7:46 pm

One way to combat the cross polination issue is to build screen boxes for each plant. Then on one day pull the boxes off the zucchini and let the insects polinate it and at nightfall put the boxes back over the plants. The next day pull the boxes off the delicata squash so they can be polinated. Keep doing this as long as they are flowering.

This way you can plant both species and enjoy them.

Carl in W.V. April 8, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Been a pretty good week found out that my DPMS loves MFS ammo absolutly no extractor marks on the case so i ordered 800 more rounds and 25 more rounds of oo buck from palmetto state armory. bought 1 case of mixed fruit 1 case of seasoned cabbage 1 case of treat meat 1 case of spinach. Friday DW and DD and myself left for weekend fishing trip stopped at local bait shop and found a whole case of Magpul 30 rounders for 15.00 apeice could not believe it. I bought two and told him i’ll be back for the rest. I hope the wolfpack had a great week and Happy Easter.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Carl: WTF does MFS mean? Just askin’ LOL, Cos

Carl in W.V. April 11, 2012 at 10:43 am

Cos, MFS is a Hungarian company that has been producing ammunition since the 1950s. Their goal is to provide high quality ammunition to hunters and shooters. Th unique Zn (Zinc) plated cases help protect against corrosion, aids in extraction, reduces camber wear and does not use any lacquer or polymer coatings that can gum up your action. This ammunition is new production, berdan primed for long shelf life and fully non-corrosive. Ships 20 rds per box and 50 boxes per case of 1000 rds.

Carl in W.V. April 11, 2012 at 10:45 am

MFS is something short for long Russian named im sure

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Carl: Thanks for the reply. Cos

Backwoods April 11, 2012 at 4:24 pm

It is a russian ammo zinc plated steel case pretty reliable i shoot lot’s of it.

Kelekona April 8, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Due to buying both a turkey and a ham in addition to whatever else I bought, I’m grounded from taking the car to the store for the rest of the month. Plus we had to take the car to the shop again.

If anything else happens, we’re calling off the roadtrip.

Pastor Joel April 8, 2012 at 1:34 pm

1. Acquired mini 14 and 1,000 rounds of 223 ammo
2. Recalibrated all scopes at the rifle range for self and son-in -law
3. Tilled part of garden area for early planting; will finish all tilling this week.
4. Added several canned meats and vegetables to food stores
5. Toured new land listing in continuing search for retreat property

riverrider April 8, 2012 at 8:44 pm

“praise the Lord and and pass the ammunition”

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:49 am

Amen brother riverrider.

Tim April 8, 2012 at 1:34 pm

This week? 15 cans of vegetables, a pack of emergenc pressy candles, alcohol prep pads, coban, sewing kits, a box of clif bars.

boone April 8, 2012 at 1:42 pm

hello wolf pack it was a light week for me i planted a butter nut tree. 300 onions, some carrots and radishs and kolorabi for now it will need to warm up more to plant the rest.

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Not much this week due to an accident last week end and some knee surgery as a result. Did some reading up on some subjects however. And have been happy to note that the homefront was well stocked to handle my needs as I hobble around here, healing.

Weather is still not good enough to work on our neighborhood security fence project. But the neighbors continue to fill in on the supplies needed to get it done very soon. The discussion on guard dogs goes on. I think my neighbors are a little overly emotional and have Rin Tin Tin expectations. I think having dogs that alert when someone unfamiliar is good and if they are somewhat protective so much the better. These folks are thinking trained police dog levels ~ that takes a lot of consistent training and we all have jobs. What I think is important is that the dogs are trained well enough not to take off into the woods on their own, come back when called or whistled at. One guy in this neighborhood probably has the personality to stay consistent and would be able to carry through and he is talking about getting one with some pretraining.

I am interested in purchasing some sort of geiger counter. Mostly because this is California and Japan’s EQ trash is beginning to wash up on the coast. Might affect my interest in purchasing fish. There has also been conversation out here about the Fed increasing the “safe” level of radiation exposure, could be paranoia. But there are no reports from anywhere that there is monitoring going on. But again, I could be missing lots of stuff on that as well. What I don’t know about monitoring radiation is if there are different monitors from the job of checking on different types of radiation or one monitor does it all? Any thoughts/advice/concerns?

Happy Easter Everyone.

alikaat April 8, 2012 at 5:11 pm

Hi worrisome-
One of my students last week decided to do her final project on the radioactivity studies of the West Coast. She found this EPA monitoring site with the data available to the public: http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data-map.html
It is interesting how not-user-friendly this stuff is… it would take little effort to visually present this stuff in ways that would be easily understood by simply dropping the numbers onto a map and having the map refresh for each day the data is available… in fact, that is what I recommended she do as part of her project.
So the info is there… if you want to take the time and look through it.
Good luck,
Cat

Ron April 8, 2012 at 7:11 pm

worrisome,
Rest assured that there are groups from all the west coast state universities spending millions of tax dollars monitoring away. You would have to purchase extremely sensative devises, filter thousands of litres of water, and do some complicated algebra, to detect anything beyond normal background.
If anyone detects anything you can be sire the msm will be throwing it out there as the scare of the week.

cooolwoods April 8, 2012 at 7:50 pm

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RadChick-Radiation-Research-Mitigation/260610960640885

http://www.federaljack.com/?p=170262

http://www.fukushimafacts.com/Default.aspx?PID=43&T=Radiation+News

links to someone we like for radiation updates

dont know enough about radiological survey meters to give any advice. sorry
good luck with researching and hopefully another pack member can help you with the meters

stay safe

Ridge Runner April 9, 2012 at 7:05 am

I wouldn’t put anything past the fed. A few years back they wanted to change Ohms Law so they could state they were getting better energy throughput through transmission lines.

Be particular

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm

Ohm’s Law is kind of one of those simple ones. I can’t imagine even a Politician trying to deny simple division! Cos (Heisenberg’s Principle, however is up for grabs and might have been here.)

Penny Pincher April 9, 2012 at 11:40 am

It’s not paranoia, they have raised the bar on what they consider “safe”.
It’s kind of sensationalistic, with a touch of hater, but you can find a lot of Fukushima updates on rense.com

I have a Geiger counter, an old school yellow Civil Defense one, that is better for measuring rocks than for measuring giant amounts of radiation. Some models are more or less sensitive depending on what you want to use them for.

What you might also find useful might be a keychain dosimeter with an alarm, that will beep if you get near too much radiation.

SurvivorDan April 8, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Prepped lite…10 cases of water, and 10 gal cooking oil. Sighted in a new lever action and a Crosman springer. I have been putting new line on a couple of fishing poles and cleaning out a pup tent and bag cuz you have to stop and smell the roses some time. Going bass, crappie and flathead fishing with three buddies for a few days. I had to go through a lot of my gear looking for stuff and corrected some dificiencies in my Go-Bag. The duct tape was missing. The first aid kit was somewhat depleted- etc. A large Maglight in the truck had dead batteries. You get the idea. In the process of getting ready for my trip tomorrow I caught a lot of little problems and fixed ‘em. Sorta prepping.

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Prayers sent out for the Pack and their families, also say a prayer for my friend Jamie Padron’s family and his two daughters. He was killed in the line of duty in Austin Texas yesterday, we served together in Desert Storm, LA riots and a deployment overseas.

M.D., love the book, I’ve been reading it and my gf got hers. Left a review as well on Amazon. I maybe ordering more as gifts.

Last couple weeks were spent on defensive preps. This weeks focus was support preps and technology support preps and other things.

My Preps for the week
Medical:
Disposable thermometers (100 count pack)
500 count Q-tips

Water Prep:
2 cases of water
Filled four 2L bottles.

Gun preps:
Ordered a side saddle for the new shotgun.
20 rounds of 00 buck
20 rounds slugs

Blades:
100 pack blades for boxcutter/paint scraper

Other preps:
48 each AAA, AA, C and D batteries
12 9v batteries
4 each AA, C and D rechargeable batteries
4 rechargeable batteries for pistol light mount.
1 solar powered battery charger for the pistol light mount batteries.

Looking at cell phone blockers doing research on the pros and cons as well as legality. New neighbors outside yapping away until 2am the last couple nights. May look into ways of directional focus so I don’t affect other neighbors or portable/limited range models. Opinions?

Last minute add/prep to honor my friends life and sacrifice:
1.75 L Jim Beam
750ml Jim Beam red stag
750ml Belvedere Vodka
750ml Crown Royal Whiskey
750ml Jagermeister
750ml Sailor Jerry Rum
1.75 L. Jack Daniels Whiskey

Stay safe and good prepping Wolf Pack!

George is Learning April 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm

I am saddened by your loss. I’ve read a bit about your friend and this is .. well just sad and needless.

prayers to his family and loved ones.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 4:15 am

George thank you

alikaat April 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Hi Jarhead-
I am sorry for the loss of your friend, and my heart goes out to his family. It is just too sad that he lived through so much, did so much, and still had so much to live for and to do.
God Bless.
Cat

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 4:48 am

Alikaat, thank you

riverrider April 8, 2012 at 8:55 pm

j, i’m looking into the jammers too. they are illegal, but unless you show and tell nobody can find out. the good ones are about 200.00 from the uk. i’m sick n tired of people talking on those damned things in resturants, movies, everywhere, and its always just a bunch of bs they are talking about. ….sorry for your loss also. the thin blue line gets thinner, a warrior gets to rest.

d2 prep April 8, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Prayers to your friend from Texas Jarhead, sorry to hear. Keep us posted on the jammer. I would like to use them on my kids when they constantly text in front of me! Might have to work out a trade with you for some disposable thermometers for some of my N95 masks!

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:06 am

D2, its making me train a bit harder at the range and in the gym. I have always explained to friends with carry permits, no matter how good you are, if someone has the drop on you that’s all it takes. Its something for people especially LE in towns that are not like where I live or grew up in LA.

As for a trade on the M95s I get mine for free at work 20 in a box at a time. I know, bad but sometimes work preps are the best preps lol.

d2 prep April 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Darn, my first failed attempt at a barter! Glad to hear you have plenty. As for training harder, I could not agree more.

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 6:48 am

D2, I can bring some if we do meet up some time. Got a good deal on them from a nurse friend.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:24 am

River, I’ve had my fair share of rude people at the movies and that’s another reason. That and shtf, they make them in certain freqs as well. Could help or be a double edge sword.

I'm A Prep Kat April 9, 2012 at 9:19 am

I am so very sorry for your loss. His family is in my prayers.

My SO is a Techno-Geek Extraordinaire. He says he can build a jammer of sorts from scavanged microwave parts. The problem is making it directional. I have a neighbor that apparently has hearing loss from playing his car stero so loud. Unfortunately I do not share his taste in music and have been bugging SO to build that thing so I can be rid of the noise!! He says it will fry any electronic near, tho, and is in no hurry to see me in that sort of trouble. Who would know?????

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm

I’m a Prep kat, I’m thinking his devise may be nearing an EMP device lol

I'm A Prep Kat April 10, 2012 at 8:24 am

Yeah! ain’t it great?? ;)

SurvivorDan April 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Condolences Jarhead. Will say a prayer for Officer Padron and family. Been to too many officer’s funerals over the years.
I am enheartened by the actions of the two Walmart employees who tackled the suspect even as another shot was fired at them. There are still folks who will do the right thing.
And I am toasting the memory of Officer Padron with a shot of Jim Beam. Last call…..Officer Padron.

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 11:25 pm

SD, thanks, I had too many drinks in his honor and last call.

SurvivorDan April 8, 2012 at 10:08 pm

Cell phone blockers? I think you have to be a law enforcement agency or some such. Though if you are low profile, I can’t imagine getting caught. Yappy neighbors? Good idea.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 12:29 am

SD, I know a couple people that have them as I started looking into it with my tech friends. One uses it for train rides when sitting next to the loud mouth that wants everyone to think how important they are.

Survivordan April 9, 2012 at 9:19 pm

LMAO. Need a ‘jammer’ when I’m waiting for Mrs. S.D. at the mall. ;)

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 6:52 am

Sourvivor, I can see countless teens, people in their 20s and 30s going ape “S” when their phones don’t work lol.

farmmomwannabe April 8, 2012 at 11:17 pm

My condolences for you loss. Prayers for you, your friend’s family, and prayers for continued protection for all LEOs, military, and all who truly work for the greater good.

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 7:08 am

Thanks Farmmom

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:56 am

Jarhead. I am sorry to hear about you Marine friend that passed away.I hope that your friend did not suffer much.My mom is a retired r.n. and I may sound a bit uncompassonit but I know that I would rather go quick in some situations. Sincerly Steve

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Thanks Axel, he took one in the vest and second in the neck. Had enough time to call for assistance. The Walmart employees tackled the guy and rendered first aid before the FD got there.

NorCal Ray April 9, 2012 at 6:15 pm

Jarhead 03,
Sorry to hear about your friend. Will say a prayer for his family.
Ray

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 8:45 pm

NCR, Mother Earth and Nessie I thank you and appreciate it. I hit the bank today and put $100 into his daughters trust fund set up through his department on Monday and will make a contribution from time to time to help.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 5:01 pm

Jarhead 03: What is the Dept. fund address? Cos

Mother Earth April 9, 2012 at 6:43 pm

Jarhead, berry sorry for your loss. My sil is a marine and I always dread deployment time. Prayers for his family.

Nessie April 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Jarhead
So sorry to hear of your loss and his little girls left behind. The guy that shot him sounds like a worthless piece of crap. Anyone in the military has my upmost gratitude, and it just so happens I have some Red Stag I can help you out with. Put me down for two shots for you both, as soon as my kids are in bed tonight.

College Prepper April 8, 2012 at 2:23 pm

I prepped my bug-out bag:

1 x camp cook set
1 x water filter
1 x 2 liter platypus water bladder

Since my probable bug-out vehicle is a bicycle (I have a long way to go — something that’s unavoidable for the time being), I also got

1 x thorn resistant tire tube
1 x bike chain
1 x vulcanizing patch kit

I’m waiting on the ultralight stove and the military surplus bivy sack I ordered. Additionally, in the time since I last commented, I built up ~3 to 4 weeks of food, though it is lacking in fruits. However, it’s also time that I set aside money to buy next semester’s books, so prepping needs to sit on the back burner for a little while.

In any case, happy Easter, y’all!

Lee (TX) April 8, 2012 at 8:04 pm

College Prepper, since your bicycle is your life line, put a light on it,,, they still sell the ones that are powered up as you peddel, put some saddel bags on the back and a basket on the front,,, got an air pump?

College Prepper April 8, 2012 at 10:51 pm

I do have an air pump. By light do you mean a front light? Because if so, I’ve got a battery-powered one.

A rack and panniers are high up on the list of to-buys, but they will have to wait until I’ve got all of my textbooks.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 4:59 am

College, he was recommending a tight that’s been around for at least 30 years. It mounts on the rear frame and presses against the rim of the wheel and the revolutions charge the light. It beats buying batteries all the time or at least can be used for other things.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 12:58 am

College Prepper. Don`t feel bad you are still way ahead of 99.5 of the students I bet.

kelley April 8, 2012 at 2:40 pm

This week I started building my Duck house, a few weeks ago I bought 10 baby peking ducks. for the meat (males) and Eggs (females). If anyone has or did keep ducks what coop did you build and what should I know lol.
Hope your really not really surprized or anything that Rawles sells more books then you. He is a better provider :), and he has a History.BUT kep up the good work your a strong Second.

Hunker-Down April 8, 2012 at 3:31 pm

kelley,

Did you buy your fire truck yet?

farmgal April 8, 2012 at 5:12 pm

I have ducks, they need a area in their yard that is raised, even if its just a raised bench, they don’t need a proper built coop like chickens do, a small low house, will do the job in their pen,as long as you can clean it out and put some bedding in, they are good, lots of private nesting site for egg laying or if you are hoping for setting -this breed good for laying, not so much for sitting, four to six hens per drake is ideal. If you have to many males, they will be hard on the females. They don’t require a pond but you should give them a tub with easy access in and out for bathing, but watch if for little ones, they can drown if they can get in but not out.. Any other questions, ask away..

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm

Kelley,
I do not currently keep waterfowl, but I have plans to build this versatile structure yet this summer. The YouTube video “Texas Prepper’s Greenhouse” is actually more of a general construction method that can be used for numerous things, and he shows how he used it for Ducks, starting around the 8:45 time mark. It’s probably better to watch it clear from the beginning to see the whole concept, but it looks to me like a pretty good way to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd9mNKuRtSE

riverrider April 8, 2012 at 9:01 pm

k, i raised ducks as a youngun. we never had a coop for them, they roost on the ground under decks, buildings, n such. you have to watch where they go to find the eggs. we cut the long feathers on one wing so they could only fly in circles. old folks said they might leave if not, mine you couldn’t chase away. good luck, and hope you like fox soup:)

sarahy April 8, 2012 at 9:12 pm

when i was a child we had ducks (mallards). they were kept on a lot 66 x 132. the ducks were pretty much free roaming. dad had a coop for the chickens but not the ducks. you have to watch out for predators with ducks/chickens but once they are adults they will like the free ranging ability. ducks are great for keeping things like slugs down. they will need a supply of fresh water. duck eggs are great for baking with – cakes seem to rise higher.
duck poop makes a real mess so you will want to watch walkways and decks if you let them wander the property. taking into account the eggs and the bug control ducks are a great idea.

KR Prepper April 8, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Updates. Put away more water, 9 gallons
Inventoried food. I’m comfortably at a year
Bought my first ka-bar
Bought a mag fire starter
Drew up plans for my property
Hit the range

farmgal April 8, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Well, this is a two week update for me, I got some reading done last week but didn’t get my post done, spring has hit and time is short these days.

So working in garden, and yard, pastures, and with critters, had the last of the lambs born.

Cured two legs of lamb into lamb ham, turned out very good, canned fish, and rabbit. Did some nature hiking for fitness, worked with the cow, cut down tree’s and did some firewood.

Picked up some traps, garden tools, glass gallon wine or vinager making bottles with the proper tops, Got new hiking boots, picked up a number of heavy duty work dress’s for around the farm.

Picked up assorted sizes of rubber boots for my “just in case” trunks, along with a few more winter jackets in childrens sizes that were dirt cheap on sale.

Everyone have a wonderful Easter Weekend!

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 5:22 pm

farmgal,
You stated, “had the last of the lambs born. Cured two legs of lamb “. Now that my lady, is efficiency, LOL.

farmgal April 9, 2012 at 8:42 am

:).. funny, the legs were from last years butchered hoggots.. The newest born lambs are bopping and growing well… but to be fair it does drive the hubby a bit crazy that I always skin an newborns that stillbirth and then process the body for meat for the hounds. Nothing to waste is my motto..

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 1:07 pm

Actually, if you hadn’t made those two statments back to back in your post, I probably wouldn’t have noticed, but the way they were posted just struck me a little funny.

charliebuck April 8, 2012 at 11:42 pm

farmgal,do you live in Idaho? Just wondering ,as I work on the highway and I saw a jeep with “farmgal” on the license plate.

farmgal April 9, 2012 at 8:43 am

Ontario, Canada at the moment.. and to cheap to pay for a named plate :)

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 3:07 pm

MD? Some of us out here would like to support your amazon link and probably do part of the time. Some of us however have family and/or friends that also have the same kind of link situation going on. Makes it difficult to choose. I do buy your books tho, and do use your link when I am at your site and find something that strikes my fancy. Thanks MD for all you do! Considering how busy you are getting settled and building a cabin, you rock!

Storm April 8, 2012 at 3:08 pm

I started to clean up my basement to better organize my preps. I still have a lot of work to do but I’m getting there.

Jim April 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm

This comment has been deleted by M.D. Creekmore – trolls have no place here. Jim don’t go away made – just go away.

M.D. Creekmore April 8, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Jim,

Could be. If you say so…

Debbieo April 8, 2012 at 3:43 pm

No one has ever forced me to read this blog. I am a grown woman and I make my own choices. If I dont like a site or blog I just delete it from my favorites list. I dont feel the need to be rude or leave stupid coments that make me look ignorant, but I guess others may feel differently about that.
debbieo

Cain April 8, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Wow MD,

You seem to be drawing in the trolls this week.

cosmolined April 8, 2012 at 5:06 pm

M.D. I think there is a troll in our midst…. (I think Rawles book leaves a lot to be desired.) Coming here has helped me immensely to focus. Thank You, Sir. Cos

OhioPrepper April 8, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Jim,
It’s obvious that MD (and I) have it all wrong. He lives in TN and I live in OH, and we know that all of the smart people have moved out west to the redoubt.

WildernessReturn Ontario April 8, 2012 at 6:16 pm

MD
I re-read your comments 3 times, you did not say anything negative at all, in fact in actuality you gave his book good press.
= Jim’s comments are rude, infective and immature.
= Jim yes You should then, cheers and p… off eh no need for any of that

cooolwoods April 8, 2012 at 8:01 pm

opinions vary. I like this place.
think I’ll stay awhile.

stay safe

Rex J. April 8, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Just me, but if “everyone should stop reading this blog”, shouldn’t Jim be the first?

riverrider April 8, 2012 at 9:03 pm

LOL, mention the devil and he shall appear:)

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Please do not feed the trolls.

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 9:48 pm

M.D.:
I bought Rawles book on preparedness. It is actually a binder with single sided printing that is a walk through of Costco.
If I compare it to “31 Days to Survival” I feel that I got/get a lot more from your book than I did from his, at 1/4 the price.
Thank you for the work you put into it.

Jarhead 03 April 8, 2012 at 3:43 pm

Jim, your ignorance is apparent. If the blog sucks why would you take the time to post something?

Most logical people with common sense would have stopped reading and moved on but you however took the time to read, disagree, took the time to write, took the time to post and the name of the blog is stuck in your head and can not forget that. So hate it or like it, even if you decide to tell your friends how bad the site is, you will in essence be giving this blog free advertisement.

If you want to be a sheeple of a man who suggests owning a fire truck, a main battle tank and a weapon so heavy you could barely carry it 100 yards before putting it down or shouldering it making it useless, by all means do so. We are level headed here.

Are you still pouting that we responded to your idiotic rants last week and this is how you respond by creating another email address so you can comment? Jim, climb out of your mom’s basement, get a job and a sense of manhood you lack so much. We will pray you man up and move on.

cosmolined April 8, 2012 at 10:42 pm

Jarhead 03:
Simply an amazing a$$ chewing! Great Job Marine!! Cos

texasmomma April 8, 2012 at 4:07 pm

You are kidding, right?

Ellen April 8, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Jim
Take an aspirin, then stick your head in the refrigerator.
Seems you have a head(ache) problem. Maybe when you cool off you will see things better.
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 3:48 am

Ellen, I think Jim needs a Pamperon or a Myodol instead of an aspirin lol

Ms. ACW April 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Someone maybe needs to get a nap or something! Just sayin’!

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Jim (or is it Joe?).

Thank you for your opinion. Now leave!

village idiot April 8, 2012 at 5:03 pm

MD, I think you can be pretty pleased about the advice you’ve given, and only a loser like Jim would post such nonsense. Jim, you should go post on your hero’s blog….oh, wait. Enough said.

Carl in W.V. April 8, 2012 at 5:04 pm

You know what they say about opinions so I will share mine. I found JWRs blog quiet a few years ago and it really got me started prepping in a big way although most of his followers seem a little well to do and his reccomendations seem to be a little pricey you could say. I absolutley loved the novels the Patriots and Survivors. As far as How to prepare for TEOTWAWKI it reaches people with more money and M.D. your book is for the 99% we have to save a couple of weeks so dont worry my friend you will do just fine. OBTW Jim Happy Easter will be praying for ya.

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 5:12 pm

Jim, your bad mannered slam is creepy you troll. If you think JWR is so great, go pay him homage and leave MD alone! MD your advise does not suck, your blog is educational vs. preachy, and you have a great pragmatic approach to living affordably! Don’t let one troll discourage you dear!

Storm April 8, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Jim, that’s a very rude thing to say. Have you ever heard the old saying “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all”?
If you don’t like this site, then don’t be here. Move on. Personally, I think this site is great and provides a ton of information that is very valuable to a lot of people.

grannyj April 8, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Jim – everyone gleans information from many sources – some better than others – if you don’t like what you find here, my suggestion is to take your own advice and take thyself over to Rawles blog. Hope you find what you are looking for – buh bye

Ohio Surveyor April 8, 2012 at 5:47 pm

I find this to be good advice when I encounter people like you Jim……..I never argue with a moron, he will drag you down to his level and beat you every time.

d2 prep April 8, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Ohio Prepper, exactly my sentiments; arguing with idiots is a dead end street! Jim or Joe or whoever you will sign in as next time, you are a troll. Go away and save that last bullet for yourself like you said last week. Many of us like both sites, bit we don’t tolerate trash talk. We only look to help each other.

FarmerKin April 8, 2012 at 6:00 pm

Why do you spend so much time here then?

DJV April 8, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Jim: I hope you were just joking. That opinion is definitely in the very vey very minority. The rest of us who hang out on this site think it’s the best. And if MD’s book sold out of the first printing in a week, then there must have been a lot of happy customers with his other books. I’m just guessing.

Patti April 8, 2012 at 6:43 pm

Jim, Maybe you should stop reading and stop commenting and head over to a blog more to your liking.

conmaze April 8, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Then by all means, Jim, take your own advice and stop reading this blog. Bah-bye.

Surviving in Ky. April 8, 2012 at 8:52 pm

Jim, I personally read posts from both sites. I have found a lot of useful infomation on both sites to help people prepare for those unexpected problems life throws at us. This site brings together people of like mindsets to help with ideas they may not have thought of. Please remember what this day is about and I will pray for you and your family. God bless you and everyone who views this site.

Lee (TX) April 8, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Jim, did that make you feel better? slap your wife tonight? Kick your dog?
any and all information is good,,,some is better, but even if you believe certain ideas are wrong, by having a discussion about them, others can make decisions,,,,I see no benifit in making personal attacks,,,I apologies for mine.

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 10:28 pm

But if you are going to engage in personal attacks, telling someone to climb out of his mommy’s basement and get a job is probably the best I’ve heard. LOL

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 1:58 am

Bam Bam:
In my opinion, that was NOT a personal attack, but rather guidance for the young man. Jarhead is eloquent, don’t you think? Cos

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Cosmo,

It was a really good personal attack. The only thing worse a person could say would involve questioning the size of his manhood. But if the guy is living in his mommy’s basement . . . .

Survivordan April 9, 2012 at 9:26 pm

Indeed…..eloquent. And he left out all the colorful language he wanted to use. Lol.

Jarhead 03 April 9, 2012 at 3:52 am

Bam Bam thanks lol, I try

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm

You are welcome. Here in the South, we call that opening a can of woop-ass.

Lee (TX) April 9, 2012 at 9:48 pm

you all do realize my comment was pointed at Jim and not at Jarhead, correct? Jim attempted to slam M.D. and that was the attack I was refrencing .

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Lee,

Yes, we are complimenting Jarhead on his eloquent personal attack. LOL Sorry, Lee, we were just having a little fun at the troll’s expense.

DJV April 10, 2012 at 8:54 am

It is also the fact that Jim tried to get into a battle of wits with the Wolf Pack and he was unarmed!!!!!!

Kelekona April 10, 2012 at 10:19 am

Simply terrible. Looks like MD decided not to be a censor-tyrant against a dissenter and the pack rose to the bait.

Nann!/Cruzette April 8, 2012 at 10:11 pm

So…what did you do to prep this week, Jim?
Thanks for your advice, but I have been to JWR’s site. In fact, I used to subscribe, but found the site messy, and lots of links to other people’s works, so I stopped reading it.

charliebuck April 8, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Jim,sounds like you are mad at the world because of what happened to you when you were canoeing that river in Georgia.”Aintry,dis river doan lead t Aintry,you fellas is lost”.Still hear the banjos when you sleep Jim?Don’t be sad.

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 9:24 am

I bet “Jim” is getting a kick out of all the responses. People like him usually do. As someone else said, “Don’t feed the trolls” Let MD handle him and leave him alone and he will most likely go away. We’re just wasting MD’s bandwidth by continuing to fool with the guy. just sayin’

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Becca,

But I was beginning to feel such a sense of community here. If you mess with one, you’ll bet bit in the butt by the rest.

Lee (TX) April 9, 2012 at 10:57 pm

I am glad my comments were not misunderstood, I am new here and did not want to start off on a sore foot. It plain to see that most here are ready and willing to come each others aid. Stay strong-stay safe.

Jarhead 03 April 12, 2012 at 12:47 am

Lee TX, just saw the post. None was taken and we knew where you were going with it. Its nice to see the pack assemble.

Bam Bam April 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Lee,

We understood where you were coming from. It’s tough being the new guy–waiting to make sure folks don’t take what you say in the wrong way. Don’t worry. Soon you will be an old-timer answering questions.

DiverGal (So. Fla) April 10, 2012 at 8:11 am

HOLY COW!!! i get behind in my reading and I miss all the good stuff. I need to get my watch a new battery so I can stop coming late to the party.

That said, MD we all love your site and the information you dispense to us. Keep up the great work.

DG

chloe April 12, 2012 at 8:51 am

diver gal…me too. Just got back and logged in right away – and looks like another troll received the pack treatment. cheers.

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm

I am way behind in my reading and feel cheated that I don’t have a clue to who Jim is/was and what he said! Musta been a doozie!

BamaBecca April 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm

lol ;)

Hawkeye April 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm

Encourager……..
I think he crawled off somewhere to die…it wasn’t pretty!

Grandma April 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm

I read something that made me realize that my beloved stash of toilet paper may not last forever, so I took 3 old phone books (as I did not have any old Sears catalogs), stripped off the covers and took out those annoying heavy paper ads, then wrapped them in clear plastic. I also cut a few more pieces of lath strips to fit on the inside of my double-hung windows to keep them from being forced open. Probably won’t stop some crazed starving marauder, but may slow him down enough so I can get to another self-protective device.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Grandma:
The ancient Romans used a sponge on a stick to clean their arses. If you have running water and soap, I’d pass on a garage full of TP. Instead, I do socks, shoes, boots, britches, maybe a gun and two or three bullets, a cleaning kit, camp cooking stuff, like a stove, pans, fuel, a sleeping bag, tent….. Of course, all of this would be in the large metal galvanized cans except the fuel. Just my 2 cents. God Bless You, Ma’am. Cos

Jarhead 03 April 12, 2012 at 2:19 am

Grandma, have you thought about cutting up old t shirts, dress,scarves etc? Cloth beats paper, I’ve used t shirts, shorts and socks when in the field (training/combat) when tp ran low.

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 9:46 am

Hahaha…Jarhead! You reminded me of my son’s experience at Ft. Polk, La. back in November. He was at JRTC in the field and had some stomach issues while doing night navigation. He almost ran out of socks, tee shirts and shorts before he got back to camp. Miserable night, he said, but that underwear sure came in handy. It’s still buried somewhere out there, along with lots of others, I imagine.

Cain April 8, 2012 at 4:13 pm

mmmm Prepping has been mostly on hold this week. My father-in-law flew into town to see his grand kids, so we have been having a good ol’ time with it.

I figured give our vehicle kit some attention since I was getting the oil changed and replacing the brake lights.

For the vehicle kit:
Rubbermaid container with closeable lid
1 six ton bottle tire jack (the other jack is a scissor jack packed on top of the spare tire)
6 bungee cables
Medium sized tarp
300+ item general purpose first aid kit
A Snap-on Leatherman-like tool set
Roll of duck tape
Roll of electrical tape
Another tire gauge
Jumper cables w/bag

Other items of note:
Added 4 boxes of 12 ga 3″ 00 buck to my shotgun ammo box.
My order for SAS Survival Handbook came in.
Printed off the Ranger training manual that I had downloaded earlier this week.
Doubled the amount of silver coins on hand after silver dropped $2 couple of days ago.
I condensed our general purpose first aid kits into each other so that I have extra plastic containers for use elsewhere. I figure I will stuff 72 hours of food and water for a single person into one of them and toss that into the vehicle kit.

george April 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Hit some of the Easter sales this week. Smoked a big ham and will package up the bones for beans and slice up and freeze some packages for sandwiches and seasoning for beans and such.
Local store had butter for $1.59 lb so picked up 15 and will try the canned butter thing and see how I like it.
Was at Kroger and they had 32 oz packs of dry milk marked down to $4.99 with 10 packs inside each one. Picked up 4 of them and sealed them up and also noticed that Aldi’s had went up on their 25 oz pack from 5.99 to 6.99.
Went through my long term storage and inventoried based on calories and found at 2ooo a day /person I was at 8.5 months and not a year like I thought. Also looks like food fatigue may set in at 4 months so I will concentrate future purchases on geting more variety. Hit a couple of yard sales and picked up an old Ithaca double 12 ga for $50 from and old lady moving to nursing home, stock is beat to hell but it looks pretty clean and solid, so for a cheap extra to stick behind a door it was not bad , will put a box of shells thru it and see how it holds up. Also got a couple of coleman lanterns for $5 bucks each. Will sand the rust off the bottom and repaint and will be just like new, the valve pumps good and holds pressure so just need to put some mantles on and see how it burns. I usually pick up a pack or two of mantles at wal-mart since they are only a couple bucks and will last forever and will be hard to come by wshtf and may be good barter have about 50 packs or so right now.

Hope every one has a Happy Easter or whatever holiday you celebrate and prayers out to you friends family Jarhead , hate to see a good person go down in the line of duty.. Lord knows there is not enough of them out there and we sure don’t need to lose any.

Lynda N.CA April 8, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Planted the first of three plantings of corn and green beans. Planted 50 tomato plants and the same amount of peppers. The tomatoes are slicers and for dehydrating…I get my canning tomatoes from the fields. I dehydrated two quart jars of kale…and that’s a lot of kale!! Using up quite a bit of my canned goods from two years ago…I need the jars for this year’s crops! Salmon season opened so I’m hoping our friends bring us a couple from the Coast so I can smoke and can them up: yum! Made 4 rounds of farm cheddar cheese. We’ve been eating about a pound a week of the cheese I made about 4 or 5 months ago…really good stuff! I read on a blog about using milk crates lined with landscape cloth for planting containers, so even though I don’t need to use containers, I thought it would be a fun thing to try out. So, I made 4 of the milk crate planters and put in lettuces, chard, onions and fingerling potatoes. I figure I’ll haul the containers to the Farmers Market and see if I can sell them…if I can good for me! They were very quick and easy to make up…I have a very large roll of commercial grade landscape cloth, mushroom compost, worm castings and all the free milk crates I can fit in the back of the truck. It would only cost me time to make them up.

Haven’t been up to the cabin for quite a while…busy and tired. I do have 4 cords of almond wood that needs to go up, a propane fridge and wall heater, canning and cheese making supplies that will stay up there (got on Craigs List..tired of hauling my stuff up and then back)…two quilts I made over the Winter and one of my spinning wheels. If the weather holds I should make it up next weekend.

Hawkeye April 8, 2012 at 5:38 pm

MD……..

Anyone heard from Gayle (N. Florida) lately? I miss her cheerful posts!

Bam Bam April 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm

‘Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What’s Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 1:03 am

LOL & so much for OPSEC.

Jarhead 03 April 12, 2012 at 2:25 am

Lol

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 9:10 am

WTF?

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm

She never changed the pic of the ?cat?

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 11:44 pm

She is now Bam Bam and still with us. I like her posts too.

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 9:09 am

Worrisome…
Thanks. She had me going.

village idiot April 8, 2012 at 11:44 pm

You’re not talking about Gayle from Gainesville, are you Hawkeye?

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Who is Gayle from Gainesville?

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 9:07 am

Bam Bam……….
Finally figured it out. Was afraid you went the way of Lint and bctruck. Glad you’re alive, kicking and still with us; I was afraid you might have shot yourself with that new Glock };-)

Copperhead April 13, 2012 at 10:56 am

And we all breathe a sigh of relief for Hawkeye!!! :)))

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Thank you Copperhead. I feel better now. Stupider but better. Don’t know how I missed the “change over”. Wasn’t away from the blog for “that long”, I didn’t think.

Hunker-Down April 13, 2012 at 11:21 am

Bam Bam,

She’s that chicken chaser, but I think she left town after shooting all of them.

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 2:48 pm

OK, village. Time out. Go stand in the corner! Cos

village idiot April 9, 2012 at 11:08 pm

What did I say(shuffling into corner)?

David April 8, 2012 at 6:06 pm

Has anyone seen a cabbage go to seed? I planted one last fall that never formed a head and it survived the winter. We have mild winters, probably didn’t get below freezing. Now it has a center stalk about 3 feet high with yellow flowers. Otherwise my store bought celery is growing from the cut off root and some other things are sprouting so it is not hopeless even if you have a black thumb like mine.

MtWoman April 13, 2012 at 10:42 am

Yes David…cabbage goes to seed. If it’s a heirloom plant, the seeds should be able to be replanted and grow cabbage. If not, it’s possible you’ll get something, but not usually.

Soggy Prepper April 8, 2012 at 6:54 pm

Happy Resurrection Day! It never ceases to amaze me how incredible God is that he would have his Son die for us so that we might live.
Happy Easter!

Not a lot of preps this week. Just working a bit more so I can spend more on preps.

I did reserve a couple camping spots for this summer, which isn’t really prepping, but does give us the opportunity to cook outdoors an rough it a bit. I’m thinking we’ll do so open camping too in the national forest here, lots cheaper and I think it would be a good time. Hoping things stay sane enough this summer with occupy and iran so we feel comfortable in leaving our home to camp. We’ll see.
It’s that damn prepperphrenia kickin’ in!

I found this tutorial on how to make a rain barrel out of plastic garbage cans. Next one I get this will be what I nag my husband into making for me. Lots cheaper then a pre-fab rain barrel.
http://beachbrights.blogspot.com/2010/01/everybody-is-going-green.html

Prayers go out for those that have lost someone they love, for those that are sick/injured and for those that are looking for work. Keep the faith. And keep on prepping while we can.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 2:11 pm

I saved that linked pdf and printed it off. Thanks!

Soggy Prepper April 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm

I have one fun link. My DH found this guy, he has tons of gun songs. This one is now my DH’s theme song!

This is for all the gun guys and gals, Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-h-Wx08kw&feature=relmfu

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Oh, Soggy Prepper! I am still laughing! Had to forward it on to my oldest, it so fit him to a T ! And of course, to my hubby and youngest son so they can tease him!!

Ranger2187 April 8, 2012 at 6:57 pm

I continue reading various blogs/forums/websites on the subject of preparations. Now that I have a straw-man of a plan, its time to begin the work.

By the way, thanks for the 10 things you should get now list!

~Ranger2187

d2 prep April 8, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Welcome to the Pack Ranger. Fellow Army?

cosmolined April 8, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Welcome Ranger 2187! Lots of good folks here. Airborne! Cos

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Where did Rangeer 2187 go? (Maybe he was a Nasty Leg!) For normal folks, that’s an insult to all Airborne troops. Cos

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Hey! Welcome to the Wolf Pack, Ranger!

Terri April 8, 2012 at 7:01 pm

M.D. Don’t pay attention to Jim. He just has to take his frusstrations out on someone when he gets his stinger out of joint. Pray and may the Risen Christ watch over the wolfpack, and Jim

Patriot Farmer April 8, 2012 at 7:06 pm

I picked up another Marlin 30/30 and spent several hours at the range getting used to how it shoots. I have also been working to finalize plans for retirement and my move out west.

Lee (TX) April 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm

Patriot Farmer, why do you prefer the 30/30? I am not attacking you, I honestly want to hear your reasons.

Patriot Farmer April 9, 2012 at 8:42 am

1. Ease of maintenance. 2. Ammo availability. 3. Ammo is less expensive than most HP rifle ammo. 4. Very durable rifles. 5. Loads of lethal power on most North American game animals. 6. Very accurate. 7. A Winchester or Marlin 30/30 makes me look just like a guy who like to hunt and not a prepper. Lee, don’t get me wrong I like and own several AR rifles but I have always been drawn to 30/30 lever action rifles.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 9:54 am

add to that, not likely to stir the ire of law enforcement/less likely to get banned. i’m keeping one(and ammo) in case i have to stash the ar’s:)

Lee (TX) April 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm

your points are understood,,, for my area, a 308 or a 300 Win Mag is better,,,, acers and acers of open ground,,, the 30/30 just does not have the same distance,,,but each needs to use what is best for them, take care.

charliebuck April 9, 2012 at 11:11 pm

Patriot,I own a 1957 Winchester Model 94 30.30 and I love it.(Of course I love my M1 Garand,Colt AR 15,1958 Romy SKS,etc…).I read an article once by a seasoned Texas Ranger and he carried a 30.30 daily,and was more than happy with it. Main thing is,shoot it alot and know what it will do.Be Safe buddy.

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 7:14 am

Lee, its also a good brush gun for game like dear and pig. Don’t own one but have shot and hunted with them.good guns.

cosmolined April 8, 2012 at 11:13 pm

Patriot Farmer:
I think we have ‘the grass is greener on the other side of the fence”! I’m nearing retirement and looking to move East….
I have a 1905 Winchester rifle 30-30. (Rifles hold 9 rounds.)
It is simply a tack driver. I can hit pop cans at 100 yards. Marlins are even better in my opinion due to the side ejection. God Bless, Cos

village idiot April 8, 2012 at 11:47 pm

Where you headed, cos? Just about everything is east of you, lol. We would welcome you in Arkansas.

cosmolined April 9, 2012 at 2:52 pm

village idiot:
Arkansas is top on the list. Gathering nickels to put a down payment on some land. It’ll take at least 2 years before I have enough for another fresh start. By coincidence, in two years, I’ll have medical coverage along with my retirement. God Bless, Cos

Patriot Farmer April 9, 2012 at 8:46 am

Good luck on your move Cos. and congratulations on your nearing retirement. I bet if we compare our reasons for moving they would be the same, just in oposite directions. I know what you mean about the older Winchesters. I have a 1949 Winchester that is smokin’ accurate.

axelsteve April 11, 2012 at 2:00 am

Patriot Farmer. My older brother has an old 94 in 32 win special. It must have been made in the 30`s cause it is made from nickel steel.

Rockchalk April 8, 2012 at 7:29 pm

Happy Easter to the Wolfpack! He is risen. He is risen indeed.
We had a successful week prepping. We cleared a shooting lane at the retreat and put up a solar motion light. It is the most powerful solar light I’ve ever seen. We are going to try it out for a while and if we like it, we have some other places we are going to put some. We chopped some firewood for next year and worked on clearing some mesquite and cedar that was growing on the embankment of our stock pond.Does anyone know if cottonwood is ok to cook over? We also did some cosmetic work at the retreat and planned where to put in the blackberry bushes and chicken coop. Since we spent the weekend there, I was able to water the peach trees, they are full of peaches. We bought a set of cast iron cookware and transported them to the retreat. I need to practice cooking with cast iron, I don’t have a lot of experience with that.We have some books located there, but I want to bring some more up there as well as some games. We also found a pretty good deal on 1000 rounds of handgun ammuntion.

charliebuck April 9, 2012 at 11:15 pm

Rockchalk,what brand of solar light?I am in need of a few.I picked up some cheap ones from a company,and they were junk.I need to buy some quality ones.Thanks my friend.Take Care and Be Safe.God Bless America!!

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Rockchalk, just remember that when you are cooking with cast iron it heats up nice, but you will have to turn the heat down farther than you think because it holds the heat so well. Very easy to burn whatever you are cooking!

Papabear April 8, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Greetings Wolf Pack. May the Peace of the Risen Christ be with you.

Haven’t posted the past few weeks, not much in the way of preps. Income has been low but some unexpected overtime has helped get through this period. Only down side has been the weird hours and little sleep. Did get to do a little reading each week.

-Picked up some tomato plants, they are in containers and one is showing signs of flowering. Can’t tell yet if it has set fruit.
-DS2 brought some horse poop for the compost pile.
-Picked up a couple of large(er) totes to organize cleaning supplies.
-Replaced some of the food supplies that got used.
-Not exactly a prep, but gave a ‘care package’ to a friend of DS1 who is still looking for work. Very long story there.

Interesting observation: a couple that I have known for a few years has taken a very sudden interest in storing food. It has been a subject for discussion a number of times. Don’t know what got them started but it is good to see. After showing them the article here on gutter gardening they now have their own thriving gutter garden.

charliebuck April 9, 2012 at 11:17 pm

Papabear,you did a ton this week,just by helping the out of work person with the care package!Be Safe and God Bless You.

Papabear April 11, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Charliebuck,
Thanks for your kind words. DS1 was taking care of his friend on Monday because of sickness. Today he sent a text – the friend past from this life. He was agnostic so there is no telling what direction he went in.

FarmerKin April 8, 2012 at 8:17 pm

Hello all, my preps this week were minimal since I made the Excalibur purchase last week. Mostly just researching meat slicers … not really for slicing meat, but rather for preparing fruits and veggies for dehydrating. Not sure how powerful of one I need. BrandsMart has a couple for around $50, but I don’t want to waste the money if they are insufficient for the job. If anyone has any recommendations, I would sure be interested in any input you have to offer. Besides the research, all I did was buy two stalks of celery and two (rather large) cantaloupes that I plan to dehydrate one day this week when the dehydrator gets delivered. Thanks, and stay safe everyone.

conmaze April 8, 2012 at 10:08 pm

FarmerKin,

May I suggest something for use now and after tshtf? If there is no power, that electric meat slicer will be of no use, but you will still be preparing fruits and vegetables. I guess it could be used as a boat anchor LOL

You can purchase a mandolin-type slicer. I got one as a gift that was purchased at Walmart. I’m sure it was less than $15. It has a blade rather than wire. I put up most of my garden last year using it. Just have to be very, very careful of that sharp blade – I sliced all of the skin right off of my thumb knuckle, right down to the bone. Hurt like heck for weeks! This one came with a “holder” that has prongs that stick into the produce to protect you from such things and like a dope I didn’t use it. I sure do now!

Anyway, it’s super sharp and super fast and you can slice in 1/8″ slices or 1/4″ slices. I did carrots, cukes, tomatoes, eggplant, zucchini, summer squash, onions, pickles, etc.

IndianaAli April 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Love my mandolin slicer, super quick for prepping vegs, etc but you do have to watch out for your fingers! Ouch! I also have an electric meat slicer that I do use for meats and cheese, mostly when my hubs was working and taking sandwiches every day. So much more economical to purchase larger pieces and cut them yourself, so I see the need for both types. I did get the electric as a Christmas gift, I think it came from Tractor Supply.

FarmerKin April 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm

OUCH!!! Yes Conmaze, I have one of those that I use now for cooking, and certainly would use post-SHTF. What I don’t like is that the slices are thick on one side and thin on the opposite side, which in ordinary cooking is no big deal, but I’m not sure how much it would affect the drying process. Also, I really want to dehydrate some citrus slices like the lady in the dehydrate2store.com videos. Not sure the manual slicer would handle that, and I know they would be even worse if I tried cutting them by hand. I’ve been reading reviews, and it sounds like some of the slicers have a hard time slicing meat, so I don’t know if they would be better or worse at cutting an orange. I don’t want to spend over $100 on one, and don’t even want to spend that if it won’t do what I want.

PS: I don’t have a boat, so I’ll have to come up with other options – LOL.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 3:18 pm

I have gotten all my meat slicers from second hand stores. The only “problem” was when I bought one without the hand guard so it was a bit dangerous. They are way faster than mandolins and don’t jam like mandolins do sometimes, but mandolins are good for smaller quantities when you don’t want to take apart a slicer to wash (and they have julienne attachments sometimes too). Very true about having a mandolin for when you don’t have electricity, but a 2nd hand slicer is great for when you do, and makes it easier to afford having both.

Glenn B April 8, 2012 at 8:56 pm

Went through my extra gun accessories and found nine (9) .45 caliber magazines still sealed in originl wrappers. Debating with myself whether or not to sell them to raise some cash for survival supplies that are more important to me or to hang onto them for barter in tougher times. Leaning toward selling them.

Rotated some canned foods I had in stock with fresher stuff. Since both are close to expiration dates, I started using canned string beans and corn to feed my tortoises. They love it and gobble it up.

Ordered a 16 ounce bottle of Gunzilla to supplement my firearms cleaning supply.

Decided that this months order of emergency food stores should consist of a container of some sort of beans and another of dried peas peas and maybe one of powdered milk.

All the best,
GB

JP in MT April 8, 2012 at 10:02 pm

Glenn B:
With the rumbling I’m hearing from the dealers in the gun business, I’m holding on to my extra mags for a while longer. I will be set up at about 4 more gun shows before the election so I can take the pulse of the local market. I know I’ve had 8 years to not get caught without the supplies that I will need, but there are others who, for a variety of reasons, got a late start. I want to be able to take carer of me and mine if TDL gets reelected.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 9:51 am

jp/glen, roger that. i want to pare down the inventory but i’m hearing it will be much more valuable in a few months to a year. who knows, but i’m hanging on to everything for a while.

Judy, another one April 8, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Hope everyone has had a blessed Easter. He is risen!

Haven’t done much prepping here lately. Still with our heads just barely above insolvency. Hubby is still looking for work along with 7,000 other laid-off teachers here in Kansas. Did get to make some repairs on the garden tractor and replace the rotten rags on the back of tractor.

Everybody have a good week and stay healthy!

BamaBecca April 8, 2012 at 9:18 pm

I haven’t spent much on preps this week but I did get these things done:

Its been a LONG time since I made bread, but I tried my hand with some beer bread this week and it turned out ok. The edges were a little crumbly but all in all it was pretty good bread. This week, I want to try making regular white bread.

Continuing to ride the bicycle each day. Still a little sore, but its getting better. Over the w/e DH bought one for himself and we rode about 4 miles, pretty good for 2 out of shape middle aged birds if I do say so myself ;) I much prefer having someone to ride with and tend to ride longer distances than when I’m riding alone.

Ordered and received a Lehman’s and a Vermont country Store catalog. The Vermont country Store one wasn’t what I expected although they do carry a few hard to find items, but the Lehman’s catalog is a dream come true for people who want to live (or are prepping for) off grid. I drooled over this one for hours!

Watched several episodes of The Colony and found it pretty interesting.

Picked up more of Walmart’s .20 seed packets and a few at the dollar store for 3/1.00. DH gives me a hard time for buying seeds, but one of these days I fear he may be very glad I did. I’m still not quite sure how to store them for long term use. Our heat and humidity here in the deep south throw an extra factor in to everything dealing with long term storage and I haven’t really been able to find much online except storing them in the freezer. My fear is that if I store them in the freezer….then we end up with no electricity, that my seeds may go bad…

Filled up another pot with dirt and got 4 squash plants planted. Added more dirt to my potatoes…they seem to be on steroids!

Planted watermelon, cantaloupe and honeydew melon in the new clear cut that’s about 1/2 mile down the road. Also set out 20 sweet potato vines in a small clearing about 50 yards behind my house in the woods. Monitored the sun in several locations in the woods behind the house so I can also get some cukes and zuchinni planted back there also. Plan to plant them next to saplings so they can run up them and wont be on the ground.

One of my biggest fears is snakes hiding in the vines. We have some HUGE rattlers in this part of the country as well as a lot of water moccasins due to our proximity to the lake and the river. And yes, they DO climb trees!

I have 2 tiny strawberries on my strawberry plants and 6 of the 8 plants that I thought were dead, but planted anyway have bits of green peeking through the dirt (YAY!)

reorganized my canned goods in the shed…and got depressed because I KNOW I don’t have enough. Found 4 cans of tomato sauce that had started to rust around the edges, so used them to make a pot of chili.

Harvested and dehydrated some chives and parsley. My 3 celery regrows are looking good for now. The last ones I tried did good for several weeks and then just up and died…

Found a recipe for worm food for my worm bed and made the mixture. The worms seem to like it, although I think I put too much in the bin for them the first day. If anyone wants to give it a try, here it is:

2 cups oatmeal, 1 cup cornmeal and a dozen egg shells, crushed. The instructions said to cook the eggshells in the microwave for 3 minutes and remove the membrane inside the shell before crushing.

Hope everyone had a great Easter!

Katie April 8, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Bama-put your extra seeds in the refrigerator. Also, there are some good websites that list how long seeds will germinate for. Some seeds (peas) last for years but some aren’t any good after a year or so.

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 8:17 am

Katie, I appreciate your input….but I want to store them without use of the fridge or the freezer. My thinking is that when TSHTF, those seeds may go bad if they have been in the freezer or fridge. I have bought up LOTS of seeds that I have no intention of using until we are in a situation where we have no grocery store or any other option of getting food. I have prepped canned goods, etc for my dh and myself, but if I have family show up, I won’t be able to turn them away…..and a big garden will be my main way of feeding them. I havent been able to find much of anything online about storing except in the freezer or fridge.

Katie April 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm

ah-good thinking. I have had some success with storing them in the basement (cool) in a dark spot. (I actually forgot them down by my planting table and they germinated fine when I found them 2 years later behind the shelf!).

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Becca,

I don’t store my seeds in the frig. I get them from about an hour south of me. If the plants/seeds are not accustomed to cold weather and you put them in the freezer, you could kill them.

Krystle April 8, 2012 at 10:05 pm

I can’t believe how much you did!! You would be the best neighbor, I would be over your house every day begging you to take me under your wing in the kitchen :) Most of your posts make me hungry, and I love learning to make things from scratch….especially bread!

Great job!!!

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 8:19 am

Thanks Krystle! You would be more than welcome! I also love learning to do things the old-fashioned way and my daughter isn’t very receptive, lol. She cooks for her family, but she isn’t interested in learning the “old” ways.

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 1:11 am

BamaBecca,
If you like the Lehman’s catalog, then you’ll go nuts if you ever get to visit the store. It’s less than two hours from here, and we try to make the trip at least 2-3 times per year.

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 8:21 am

OhioPrepper, I would LOVE to visit their store! I doubt I ever get the chance though, but its nice to dream isn’t it? ;) You’ll have to drool a bit for me next time you get a chance to go :D

I'm A Prep Kat April 9, 2012 at 9:36 am

I wanna go tooo!!!!!!

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:42 pm

I would love to visit their store and the King Author store as well.

grannyj April 13, 2012 at 12:59 am

I feel a road trip coming on! All preppers on board for the Lehman’s Drool Road trip – bibs provided…..

I wanna go too…pouting here

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

I hope to be able to go to Lehman’s this summer; we have been there a number of times. I drool all over their wood-fired cooking stoves! There are some other stores worth stopping at nearby…hardware stores run by the Amish where the lighting is by kerosene lamps. They have all kinds of goodies in those stores. We drive the back roads every time we go to an Amish area and stumble across these little gems. Another good stop are the fabric stores. The fabric is so much cheaper than at places like Joann’s. It is worth a week of time to camp and explore the mid-eastern area of Ohio or northern Indiana. If you time it right, you can hit one of their auctions.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 7:16 pm

I was curious about the seeds and remembered a post I saw recently http://www.utahpreppers.com/2009/05/survival-seeds-in-a-can-9-years-later/ She didn’t have good success with those. More technical articles I saw talked about ultra-drying and completely vapour-proof containers, silica gel, and lower temperatures: http://www.seedcontainers.net/a_guide_to_long-term_seed_preservation.html and http://www.seedcontainers.net/efficient_long_term_seed_preservation-response_to_C_Walters_2009.html

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:17 am

Thanks for those links Natalia! I’m loading them as I type this. It would be bad to save all those seeds just to have them not “do their thing” when the time comes!

Natalia April 14, 2012 at 6:09 pm

I’m glad you saw this! It’s hard to keep up with replies, isn’t it? :) What did you think of the articles? Since I wrote that I also found a page where they made up a vacuum sealer for seeds, from a bicycle pump.
http://www.saveseeds.org/tools/tool_vacuum_pack.html

BamaBecca April 14, 2012 at 11:18 pm

Well, some of it was kind of “sciencey” lol, but from what I read one of the best ways to store them is in the kilner jars. I’ve loved those type jars forever but never knew what they were called. From what I understood, storing in plastic can still allow some moisture to get in.

And YES, its so hard to keep up, I get lost, end up reading some posts numerous times, lol. So if I don’t reply to something someone posted to me, its because I didn’t see it, not because I’m being rude ;)

About to check out this new link you posted

Southern Blonde April 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Bama: Thanks for the tip on Lehman’s. I’m going to order a catalog now!

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:29 am

You’re very welcome hun…you’re gonna LOVE it! :D

Katie April 8, 2012 at 9:40 pm

DH found some more good garage sales and got some military issue long underwear (under armor type) for .25 ea. Then I bought another gun (which I needed like a hole in the head). I’m still kicking myself for spending money on that.

My tomatoes that were under the growlight all of a sudden started damping off. So, threw them out and replanted. The new tomatoes are up but will just be late this year. We are about a month ahead (weather wise) and that worries me. I don’t have a soil thermometer but don’t think it’s that much warmer then it should be as the nights are still in the 40*-50*’s. So, hopefully I won’t be as late getting them in as I thought. My neighbors already planted theirs so I’m anxious to see what happens.

We went and looked at a retreat location. Not going to work…not a great location next to a road. (A lot of acreage and they put the house 10′ from the road!!) So, we’re back to square one.

Hope everyone had a great Easter and remembered the reason for Easter. Just seeing all the new life reminds me of the Reason.
We

Carl in W.V. April 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm

just been over to survival blog here is what JWR had to say on his odds n sods: I heard that M.D. Creekmore’s new book 31 Days to Survival: A Complete Plan for Emergency Preparednessis now available from Amazon.com. (You probably recognize the name M.D. Creekmore. He is the editor of TheSurvivalistBlog.net.)

Krystle April 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm

Glad to hear everyone is doing well!
This was a big week for us, didn’t stock pile anything but a few gallons of water, but we went over to PrepperGroups and connected with someone in our area, swapped a few emails, and things are going well so far!! (northen central Mass, if anyone is interested in doing the same) We are really optimistic about it. Also, my birthday was on Wednesday and I received the following:
-tent
-camp light stick
-camp tp/watertight dispenser
-camp soap
-watertight first aid kit
-waterproof matches

And we purchased and added to our BOBs:
-plates/bowls/cups
-jerky
-instant potatoes
-poptarts
-granola bars
-aluminum water bottles
-and instant oatmeal
(Our bags are 2 week kits, not 72 hours)
That’s it for this week, we are getting closer and closer! We also have figured out some long term plans for this summer. Take care all!

village idiot April 9, 2012 at 12:07 am

Happy late birthday, Krystle. Hope you have many more. Oh, and congrats on meeting new LMIs, and nice preps this week.

Krystle April 10, 2012 at 12:06 am

Thank you very much!

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 8:35 am

Happy late Birthday hon! And thats an idea! I think I’ll tell my kids I want “camping stuff” for Mother’s Day! :D

Krystle April 10, 2012 at 12:05 am

Thank you! It was fantastic. I forgot to mention that I shot a bow for the first time, and I rocked! I hit the bulls-eye at least once, almost pulled a Robin Hood, and all groupings were within an inch!

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:32 am

Congratulations! You might make a “southern ” girl after all! ;)

pjwilly April 9, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Hi southern central Ma. peterw6@verizon.net

chloe April 12, 2012 at 9:00 am

happy birthday…and wishing you many more…cheers.

Rex J. April 8, 2012 at 10:58 pm

SUBJECT CHANGE!
Hey Fellas, I KNOW some of you have the answer! My son just sent me a picture of some guns a lady wants to sell. She inherited them and one of them is the pilot survival over/under 22/410 with open frame stock. She’s asking $350 for it and the case. What’s it worth?
Rex

worrisome April 8, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Hope Nor Cal Ray sees your post, he gave me some advice on something similar a few months ago.

OhioPrepper April 9, 2012 at 1:29 am

Is this the real pilot survival rifle, the M6? If so it’s a .22 Hornet and .410 shotgun, and if it’s in good condition, I think that’s not only a fair price, but a pretty good one; however, if it’s the real Air Force version, then I think it has a barrel shorter than 16 inches, which means the buyer would have to get an NFA tax stamp to own it, or have the barrel extended with perhaps a permanently attached flash hider, meaning that it would probably not fit back into the stock.
Perhaps Jarhead or RR might know more about this thing.

axelsteve April 11, 2012 at 2:02 am

22 hornet might be kind of hard to find ammo for.

WildernessReturn Ontario April 9, 2012 at 1:42 am

Rex,
you need to go to some local gun shops. Prices vary per region and even per part of the city. Up here in Canada, that would be a very pricey shooter, you would be looking at $800-$1600 depending on condition etc.

Print out the picture and take it with you. My personal thoughts based on my location and the type of gun that it is would be to grab it! but,,, and a big but that is just me.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 10:56 am

if its a springfield scout m6 made in usa thats a great deal. if its springfield/cz made in czech republic thats a fair price. i see them run to 600 plus on gunbroker. i got one in a trade and love it. it is one of my favs. i will never let it go.

NorCal Ray April 10, 2012 at 1:32 am

Rex J.,
Not sure where you are located, but here in Ca. that would be a pretty fair price for the Springfield Armory version whether it was made in US or the Czech Republic. If it is an original A.F. model that would be an awesome price but as OP said you would probably need a NFA tax stamp.
Ray

Mr. B April 8, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Planted 10 various fruit and nut trees. Added protective fencing to keep the deer away. Attended Naturalist class to learn more about the outdoors. Biked 30 miles to stay in shape. Noticed MREs have gone up in price on Ebay. Ordered Heater Meals directly from mfg. Watched a couple Discovery Survival shows. Replaced what was eaten from our food inventory. Currently reading the Next Great Crash which provides great insight on what has been happening to the economy. Keeping up with various survival blogs. Purchased more property adjacent to retreat.
Went back in debt for this purchase. Will make a good hit on reducing this new debt with upcoming work bonus.

BamaBecca April 9, 2012 at 8:38 am

oh wow, 30 miles? and I was so proud of my little 4 miles, lol. Good for you! ;)

arkieready April 9, 2012 at 12:19 am

Not much $$ to spare this paycheck. Ds & i went to visit dd, sil & kids. Went thru each others 1st aid bags. realized i need to replace oral meds in mine. she gave me good medical shears. she needs kid meds. they are trying to prep. but with moving soon, not alot yet. i need to help get kids bobs started. good talk time with ds during long drive. he’s our mechanical/electronic guy. got my old gennie running. radio com. knowledge. still young & radical, but smart. i feel better now knowing we may have a functional group. so much to do.

axelsteve April 9, 2012 at 1:16 am

I do not know it probably is worth it with the case.

Uncle Charlie April 9, 2012 at 1:23 am

I found an old Savage 24 .22LR/410 for sale on gunbroker for $355 that someone bid on, but it depends on the make, model and condition of the rifle in question. A combo .22LR/ 20 gauge would probably be more practical. I love 410′s for sport, but for survival I would rather depend on a 20 gauge.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 1:30 am

It’s late in the day to post these but we’ve had a day full of company and I just discovered them. I hope they are still free tomorrow.

Terawatt

http://www.amazon.com/Terawatt-ebook/dp/B006FQ1IH2/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333949168&sr=1-1 In the aftermath of a devastating EMP event, an unprepared suburban Texas school teacher battles his way across a thousand miles of post-apocalyptic terrain to rescue his wife and son stranded in Tennessee.

Doomsday Diary

http://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Diary-ebook/dp/B007GELBEC/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333948695&sr=1-1 It’s a lighthearted, informative book with relevant, tipping point ideas about how to thrive and prosper on the final day or if things get really bad.

I have not read either yet. Wanted to post this quickly yet tonight, will continue reading comments in the morning.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 9:02 am

Haha! Well it WAS late in the day but I’m on the wast coast. Plus it didn’t allow time for moderating.

Oh well, the Terawatt book is still free today.

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 10:00 am

As well, today

Germs, Genes, & Civilization: How Epidemics Shaped Who We Are Today

http://www.amazon.com/Germs-Genes-Civilization-Epidemics-ebook/dp/B0032BW5CK/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=AZC9TZ4UC9CFC&qid=1333976732&sr=1-1

This is a “proper book” by a “real press” who publishes a lot of expensive science-type books. Included in the book: ” It also considers what our ongoing fundamental relationship with infectious microbes might mean for the future of the human species.”

How to Build and Take Care of an Aquaculture Fish Farm

http://www.amazon.com/Aquaculture-Easiest-System-Caring-ebook/dp/B007H06R26/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333978584&sr=1-1

Weekend Homesteader: December

http://www.amazon.com/Weekend-Homesteader-December-ebook/dp/B006A8S73S/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333979098&sr=1-1
“Which fruit tree is the easiest to grow in your backyard? How can your family stay warm during a winter power outage? What tools do you really need to make your homestead a success? Can you build your homestead using free tools and supplies? This month’s volume of Weekend Homesteader answers these questions and more as it walks you through the basics of planting your first fruit trees, staying warm without electricity, understanding the uses of essential tools, and turning trash into treasures.

For those of you who are new to Weekend Homesteader, this series walks you through the basics of growing your own food, cooking the bounty, preparing for emergency power outages, and achieving financial independence. Technically, the series began in May (or November in the southern hemisphere), but most of the projects are designed to be accessible even to someone starting from square one each month. This ebook, and each other volume in the series, presents one easy and fun project for each weekend so that you’ll keep making headway without becoming overwhelmed.”

The authors put one of them up for free every month. I’ve got several now. (Or you can put up the .99 for the others if you like)

Raised Bed Gardening 101

http://www.amazon.com/Raised-Bed-Gardening-101-ebook/dp/B007RR8ARY/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333979382&sr=1-1

How To Forage For Free Food – Let’s Get Foraging

http://www.amazon.com/How-Forage-Free-Food-ebook/dp/B007R6D2YG/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1333979533&sr=1-1

Thinking of how to help the elderly or weak to improve their health, say, when there are no programs to go to, and you’re all stuck at home for a while?
Simple Circles: An Exercise Program for Seniors & Their Families http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Circles-Exercise-Families-ebook/dp/B007KQ6TD4/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=AZC9TZ4UC9CFC

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Natalia,

Thank you for the links. I appreciate your contribution.

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 9:12 pm

Bam Bam, I really appreciate your reply. It’s good to know some people can use them. :)

WildernessReturn Ontario April 9, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Hi there,
I went and got the free book, but now it is showing available in the Kindle Cloud only???
Really no download, ok, what did I do wrong?
cheers WR

WildernessReturn Ontario April 9, 2012 at 6:03 pm

I think I found out the answer it is in the little box on the right hand side, top, make sure it is selected to Download to PC option.

Thanks for this

Natalia April 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm

kindle cloud works too, you read it on your computer but instead of saving it to your computer and taking its memory, it’s kept in the “cloud” (internet). If it gives the option, choose the one your prefer (like you did) but some books don’t give you all options. Some are for Kindle or Kindle PC only, no Cloud Reader, etc.

FarmerKin April 9, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Wow Natalia, great titles. Thank you for keeping an eye out for these deals and sharing with all of us!

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 9:10 pm

You’re so welcome, FarmerKin. I appreciate your posting; it’s nice to know that people are getting them and like them. :)

farmmomwannabe April 11, 2012 at 10:36 pm

These books look great! I got to the message late, so some were no longer free, but most were. Thank you so much. Free is my favorite price! Please let us know about others when you find them.

Gwen April 9, 2012 at 9:52 am

Thanks for the links, Natalia! I love these free kindle books.

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 9:11 pm

You’re very welcome, Gwen, and thank *you* for the kind feedback. :)

Ridge Runner April 9, 2012 at 6:35 am

Thank you all for your prayers and support. It’s a great comfort and means a whole lot.

Ridge

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Ridge Runner:
Add me to the list of prayer’s sent. When my neice was diagnosed a few month’s back, I asked for help from the Pack. After her first chemo, they did the surgery and only found scar tissue. There is Power in Prayer! Praise God!!! May He Bless you both. Cos

Terri April 9, 2012 at 9:17 am

I’ll keep your dear wife in my prayers Ridge. God bless.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 9:23 am

Hi all. Sorry a little late posting this week. Got a little prep in this week. Bought a case of soup, a case of spam and a case of veggies for the shed. made it to the range for 200 rounds through the .9mm. Not sure if anyone caught the news about my neck of the woods, but the squids managed to fly an F18 Hornet into an apartment complex not too too far from where I live. Being in my local volunteer EMT rescue squad, and being off on Fri, I was part of the responders. Let me tell you, folks there were angels around those buildings, because what could, and by all rights SHOULD have been a veritable bloodbath resulted in zero deaths. Amazing. Truth be told, I was more a spectator to the firemen than anything else. God is truly merciful….

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 12:59 pm

amen brother. i watched in horror thinking “how many bought it this time?” was amazed at zero. was it a rookie mistake or something really happen to the jet? must have been a working class hood, not a lazy class hood, or it woulda been a disaster. glad you n yours are well and thanks for your emt service too. i have to be honest, when i was a cop i kinda drug my feet responding to a wreck until i heard the emt’s were responding over the net. i didn’t want to be the first alone on the scene. a lot of times i was still first but it was nice to know help was right behind me. it takes a special kind of guts to do that and my hat is off to you.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 5:55 pm

RR

Early indications are *technically* a mechanical malfunction that MAY have been exacerbated by a rookie pilot. Though he did have an instructor co-pilot. The folks who’s backyard the pilot landed in said his first words were “Sorry for landing in your back yard.” Yeah, working class neighborhood, most folks were at there jobs when it happened, thank God….

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Tinfoil Hat,

I had the same thought. God was looking out for the folks in Va. Beach.

Southern Blonde April 9, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Tinfoil Hat:

Thank you for your work in helping those folks in Virginia Beach. My stepdaughter lives there in an apartment, and when we heard about the crash, our hearts stopped. Luckily she was about 5 miles away. Whew! I did hear that the pilots emptied a lot of fuel before ejecting. Guess that helped cut down on the fire.

Tinfoil Hat April 9, 2012 at 11:21 pm

SB

No thanks necessary. All just part of being a good neighbor and good member of the community. And like I said, it was VBFD who did the vast majority of the dirty work. Fuel was dumped pre-impact, though whether it was an intentional act by the pilot, part of the mechanical malfunction, the Good Lord showing mercy, or a combination of the three, it most certainly made the fire far more manageable than it otherwise might have been. I’m pleased your stepdaughter is fine and safe as well.

Gwen April 9, 2012 at 10:17 am

I didn’t do any prepping this week because I took my 14-year-old daughter on a homeschool field trip to Washington DC along with another family. Talk about the land of Oz. You would imagine that we have the most robust economy on earth based on the amount of construction going on in DC. I haven’t seen so much construction since Dallas in the early 1980′s when Texas was on fire with growth. I also haven’t seen so many Mercedes Benzes since Dallas in the 1980′s, so it’s pretty certain our bureaucrats are living fat and happy lives. Did you know that the Dept. of Agriculture resides in a mammoth building that spawns two city blocks — seriously? It is quite obvious that a lot of our tax money never leaves the capitol after arriving there. It was an interesting trip although disheartening in many ways, reinforcing without a doubt the suggestion that one of the main functions of government is to sustain itself. On a positive note, one of the most moving experiences I have had in a long time was watching the Changing of the Guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington National Cemetery. My daughter was deeply touched by the idea that the Unknown Soldiers are never left alone, and have been guarded round the clock for 50 years.

We stayed at a campground in Maryland and took public transport into the city each day. The other 3 kids on the trip included two boys who were reading a couple of zombie apocalypse books, and they started talking about real end-of-the-world situations. I asked them if they had ever heard of an emp, and none of them had. I described to them what would happen, and they were fascinated. Then I started a game where I asked them prepper-type questions, like “how long can you store wheat grain opposed to wheat flour?” and “how would you purify water if you had to?” and the kids loved it. One boy said to his dad, “Gees, Dad, this is really good stuff that Mrs. C– is telling us, are you getting this?” The dad said back, “Philip, forget it, we aren’t the type of family that’s going to survive a zombie apocalypse.” Way to go, Dad!

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm

But you’ve put a seed of curiosity in them that may pop up sometime. Well done Gwen.

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 10:25 am

Yes, Gwen, I’ve been to DC numerous times over the past 3 years, and it is depressing in many ways. We now have a ruling class over us that feeds on itself. If you try to cut anything, they squeal like a herd of pigs. With the media on their side, any suggested cutting is rife with media stories and photos showing starving and sick children about to die. The very agency lawfully tasked with the job of policing spending is spending like a drunken sailor. It’s an Obama World.

riverrider April 9, 2012 at 10:21 am

anybody heard from tinfoil hat? that jet that went down was in his neck of the woods…..

Penny Pincher April 9, 2012 at 11:09 am

My second planting of corn failed too. I guess I’ll try starting it in pots next time. But the salad in the front yard is going well. My taters are doing well too. I also got to the range with a pistol I’d bought 3 weeks ago, finally. It’s a Taurus. The trigger pull is really long and floppy until the very end then it’s rather stiff. Hard to keep steady when firing, but I started getting the hang of it.

I spent the rest of the weekend refurbishing a chair I got out of someone’s trash. Also thinking about how to put a greenhouse on my back roof and not have it cost a fortune but also be expandable or even removable. I’m thinking maybe start with cold frames just cause they’re easy and light, and go from there. Could even just have plastic hoops, unless snow would wreck them.

Krystle April 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Regarding your greenhouse, try doing an internet search for a DIY one. You can make one almost free out of old, wood, single-pane windows, and some of them are very beautiful works of art. Here’s a couple links if you’re interested:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4644479_make-green-house-old-windows.html
http://www.instructables.com/id/Greenhouse-From-Old-Windows/

I’m going to start one of these soon, they are such a great idea and can be as simple or as complicated as you’d like them to be! Hope it helps.

Penny Pincher April 9, 2012 at 11:13 am

Oh I almost forgot. Signed up for Appleseed rifle training. 2 weeks hence I’ll be rolling in the mud learning to shoot from prone, and other fun things. Blew my wad on ammo. I can’t wait!

Bob in IA April 9, 2012 at 11:41 am

Had a great week of prepping.

Bought a Victorio Hand Mill from Sam’s Club for 49.12

Canned

8 pints BamBam Refried Beans
8 pints Meatloaf (finally)
8 pints Fire House Bean Soup
8 pints Pork

Will be canning leftover ham this week and Ham and Bean soup.

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Bob,

I feel so special. Now I have refried beans named after me. :)

Krystle April 10, 2012 at 12:07 am

LOL this made me laugh hysterically

Kelekona April 9, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Hey Mike, do you still have the link for skinning a squirrel?

TomFish April 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Hello all,

Just found this site and have enjoyed reading all of the great prepping ideas. I’m a newbie, so far as building a good cache of food and supplies. I live in a mid-size midwest city. We have a brick house with a full basement in a relatively quiet neighborhood and I plan to stay here until we reach our dream of country living with at least 4-6 acres, private well, woods and an outbuilding or two. I’ve grown up farming and being around livestock, so I have an appreciation for the outdoors, fishing and such. Now, as a marketing professional, I want to keep in touch with my basic instincts’ side of self preservation in a crisis situation.

I have a nice old automatic .22 and plenty of bullets. I plan to get a semi automatic hand gun, probably .40 or .45 cal Glock. So, learning to shoot that efficiently will be a big priority.

I’ve started putting away food and have probably enough to live on for a couple months: Several types of Rice – white, brown and mixed; flour, sugar, a couple pounds of salt, tang (Vitamin C) ramen noodles, oatmeal, a few cases of soup, canned corn, veggies and some fruit. Miscellaneous bisquit mixes, vegetable oil, potatoes, some canned meats….really just the basics. But at this point I’m not sure if I should keep doing what I’m doing – buying a few items — a bag of rice and a flat of bottled water – every few days, or whenever I make it to the store….or really focusing down on a few key items.

The reason, is that space is limited…sure I could fill up a spare room with this type of food supply. But I was thinking….if a person could determine a small grouping of food products that fill the basic requirements of calories and nutrition, it might make more sense than randomly buying amongst a huge variety of soups, spuds, beans, meats, veggies, and rices, etc., etc., etc.

That is to say, what 4 or 5 single items combine the most important aspects of prepping – expense, size, quality and completeness? For example, would a multi-vitamin, water, oatmeal, tuna and a canned veggie for each day for a year be enough for one person? I know variety would be good…but come on, isn’t the key to survive, even thrive, yet not become such an overwhelming task of lardering up on every make and model of food known to man?

I guess the advice I need would be, what 5 or 6 emergency food items would be sufficient in nutrition and reasonable in expense. Maybe we could call this the “Half-Dozen Food Staples that will Keep You Upright and Outta the Poor House Without Taking up soo much Room” list. I haven’t purchased any freeze dried/dehydrated commercial food supplies and I’d rather not – they are great in many aspects, but quite expensive and not much fun to eat when it’s time to rotate out.

Anyway…good to be with you all…
t

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm

TomFish,

Welcome to the Wolf Pack. Cool name. About the four or five items, the Mormons have this down: wheat, honey (or sugar), salt and dried beans. This is sufficient to sustain life. Check out the LDS store. They beat everyone else’s prices, hands down.

http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category3_715839595_10557_21158_-1_N_image_0

Another resource that people find helpful is M.D.’s articles: 10 Things to Do Now and Anther 10 things to do Now.

http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/survival-food-storage-walmart/

http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/survival-gear-list/

If you have any questions, just ask. We always like a good discussion.

Krystle April 10, 2012 at 12:41 am

Hey Tomfish! Welcome! I am pretty new here too. Everyone here is amazing. I found these pills called LifeCaps. I have not used them so I can’t tell you whether or not they “work”. I plan on getting a small bottle and testing them when we go camping or something. Here’s the link:
http://www.lifecaps.net/#

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 8:37 am

beans and rice contain complete protein/carb. toss in stuff to make them palatible, and vitimin c , and your basic list is done.

TomFish April 10, 2012 at 10:55 am

Thanks, guys!
I’ve been eyeballing a couple things and would like your thoughts. First, I want a portable water filtration system and saw one online at Wallyworld…but thanks to the link from from BamBam, I noticed this one…
http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product3_715839595_10557_21003_-1__196989
Am I correct in thinking that I could go to a river or lake, run it through this and drink away? Pretty good price and would be handy to use!
Second, I’ve got my sights set (pun intended!) on a .223, so have begun looking. Saw a mini 14 Ruger (I think) at an auction, with scope and a couple clips. Should have stayed and bought it, but ran out of time. Would this have been a good purchase? How much should a used one in good shape go for?

Thanks again for the input…oops forgot….started planting the garden this weekend. Got bib 12 plants of bib lettuce and 6 spinach in the ground, jalepeno and red peppers are ready, but still in the house. Lots of spring onion things that smell like garlic, they returned from last year, but I’m not certain what they technically are! Look kind of like a green onion, but get a bigger bulb and garlic smell and taste. Looking forward to putting in a pair of better boy tomatos….have had good luck with them in the past. I really want to see about canning and have done some reading on it. Anyone in central NE want to give lessons?

Also thinking hard about a dehydrator for jerky mostly, as I have a freezer full of beef. But would also do fruits and veggies. Is the $50 one at Cabella’s acceptable, or should I wait and get the top of the line one? Has anyone done fish, like catfish or panfish in one?
Have a great day and keep your powder dry…
TomFish

BBL April 10, 2012 at 9:53 pm

If they smell like garlic, that’s probably what they are. The green chives look similar for both onion and garlic. You can even use garlic chives for spring time seasoning. Good luck on your garden

Natalia April 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm

I think they are probably shallots; some say they taste like a combination of onions and garlic. You could look them up on the internet to compare pictures.

BamaBecca April 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Welcome Tomfish!

IMHO, you are right to build your supplies with basics first. That’s what I’ve tried to do myself, plus added lots of seeds and the implements to plant and harvest them with. I agree with those who worry about food fatigue, but in a SHTF scenario, we will be “eating to live, not living to eat”. I try to keep this in mind when I think of the many things I would miss….and then I try my best to stick to the basics.

Good luck and again welcome!

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Tom, it’s a very good question about the must-have list. I think the LDS list would be okay for a few days or weeks at most, then people would start getting weak from lack of certain nutrients (unless they sprouted some of the wheat and beans.) To live up to the standard you gave of the most compact AND most complete foods I would add powdered dried vegetables rather than canned. Someone on here was making powdered sweet potatoes. Sweet potatoes, I once heard, are the most complete single food there is, but it’s not a good source of protein. Powdered greens like Greens Plus or best, spirulina, would be crucial. Spirulina, I’ve also heard, is the most complete vegetable protein. Because these items are dried and powdered, they would take up least space of all. Vegetables wouldn’t need to be powdered if you didn’t need the space. I just bought some dried vegetable mixture at the bulk store the other day and was going to powder it to save space as it was cheaper in pieces. I may also wait for a sale on sweet potatoes and get a case to experiment on. I’ll also be watching for other veggies to dry.

Soggy Prepper April 11, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Tomfish,
I don’t know if you have kids. One thing you may want to research out is food fatigue. If you do settle on a select 4-5 foods, yes you can survive, but it’s going to suck.

Elders and Children can refuse food if it’s the same over and over thus starving even though there is food. Plus you want to make sure no one has an allergy to anything you store. WTSHTF would be a bad time to find out little johnny can’t tolerate wheat.

Spices will help. They can store in small spaces and change the flavor of foods which is helpful. Storing multi-vitamins is a good idea also.

You don’t sound excited about freeze dried foods. I store lots of freeze dried vegies and actually use them. They taste more fresh then frozen (waste less too, no freezer burn) and my DH thinks they taste better then canned. Order a small pantry sized can of peas or something and taste them. You may change your mind.
Good luck.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm

This past week I was able to practice on our home range twice; my son came over and we worked together. Sure got more confident! Oh, and picked up my CPL! We also firmed up the plans to rebuild the range. A friend who has heavy construction equipment is coming over and doing all the earth-moving for a very reasonable price. He has built ranges before so that really helps. Bought 4 boxes of Blazer 525 rounds of 22 LR at $15 each. If you have a Dunham’s Sports store near you, it is an unadvertised special. Last week it said you needed a coupon but they rang up without it this week. Whoo-h00!
Also finished the first raised bed and put it in the yard. The planting area is almost 4×8, and is hip high. Now we just have to fill it with good soil and that isn’t cheap! I should be able to get 1/3 of it filled with old compost under the leaves from the last few years so that will help. It has been freezing every night and looks like more this week so I am not in a hurry to get it planted right now. We have pretty much kissed any tree fruit goodbye for the year, the freezing temps got the blossoms.
Still working on the gate for the driveway…our friend will help by leveling the area it is going on.
Plans for this week are inventorying the storage areas and pulling out near-to-expire stuff to use up or donate.
We were blessed, really blessed, by an employee at the college my son will be graduating from. We were planning on camping while there for his graduation as we could not find an affordable place to stay. She directed us to one of their forestry facilities about 40 minutes away where they hold conferences. We ended up with a entire house for $18 per person! Includes a complete kitchen and living room. Plus they have a building full of pool tables, TV’s, ping pong, etc for us to use. Lovely setting on a lake. Can’t beat that! Camping on Lake Superior in April is a pretty chilly proposition.

Encourager April 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Oh! I forgot!! I finally got your book in the mail, M.D. and will start it this week. Yea!

mindyinds April 9, 2012 at 4:28 pm

As always, I am in awe of the knowledge shared on this site, and the vigor with which so many are readying themselves. OK, this may not sound like prepping, but . . . this week I stopped being vegetarian. After 35 years, it is kind of a big deal, but I finally realized that if the S ever does HTF, I don’t want to be a burden because of a specialized (unnecessary) diet. I want to keep strong in my older years, too. And sardines, etc., keep so well on the shelf!

Still gardening on the deck – my mulberry trees have berries this year, already turning pink. Also have 2 fig trees on the deck, and a couple of potato plants in woven plastic birdseed bags that are very healthy so far. Pots of herbs; 2 tomato plants from Homey Depot. And petunias just because they cheer me up, and that is important to health, too!

My heart goes out to those who recently had losses and sad news.

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 11:51 pm

That is a HUGE deal! I’m really impressed with your decision and determination to do something like that after 35 years. Really, Wow! :)

MtWoman April 11, 2012 at 8:17 am

Mindyinds…I think you are being very wise. I was vegetarian for quite a few years…a long time ago. When I got pregnant, I CRAVED meat protein, so gave in to that craving. When my son was born I decided to be an omnivore, as I was traveling around a lot, and didn’t want to be too specialized in my diet. I consider myself a omnivore now, but don’t eat a lot of heavy meat. I eat more chicken, turkey, fish and eggs and cheese….and some soy. I tend to like game meat more than store bought, so I avail myself of it as often as possible. I would say though, that fish is the bulk of my animal protein.

If your vegetarianism was a moral issue, I have felt the same way. But I do what the Native Americans do, and thank the animal for it’s nourishment. It helps.

My father raised me to understand that we are meant to be omnivores….we have teeth for eating both vegetables and meats. That makes sense to me.

I recommend you go easy with the transition…don’t want to shock the system and get sick. :) I don’t know if you’ve also been into ‘cleansing’ as a vegetarian, but I have found that it has become more important when eating animal protein. A couple times a month, I juice cleanse. And once every few months, I do a brown rice ‘fast’ for 3 days. In fact, this is something that would make a good article for the blog here. These cleansings could be very important for health in a SHTF scenario.

WIKI says this about “Omnivore”: “Omnivores (from Latin: omni, meaning “all, everything”; vorare, “to devour”) are species that eat both plants and animal material as their primary food source. They often are opportunistic, general feeders not specifically adapted to eating and digesting either meat or plant material primarily. Many depend on a suitable mix of animal and plant food for long-term good health and reproduction.”

Again…very wise of you to “train” your system to handle more than a mono-type diet. Specialization in nature is the downfall of many species.

mindyinds April 19, 2012 at 1:41 pm

MtWoman and Natalia – you are very kind to give me encouragement. I am answering this so late, you man not even see it. And yes, I don’t want to go the way of the monoculture.
Since I have almost always been ovo/lacto, transition isn’t so severe. But I gotta tell you, my most recent transition meal was fried shrimp washed down with a margarita! Way to ease into things! I hope you will write up a set of cleansing routines for a time when our juicers don’t work; I will definitely take notes!

MtWoman April 19, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Mindyinds…I’m seeing this, and kudos to you for sticking with it. One great “cleansing” is eating nothing but brown rice for 2-3 days. And, of course, there’s always a fruit fast, which I am sure you know about. Doesn’t have to be juice…just fruit itself.

Kelekona April 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm

MtWoman on cleansing,

Darnit for that site for not having a great search engine, but someone on Spark mentioned a great cleansing. All I remember about it was that the toast was dry, so maybe dairy-free, that and the rest of it seemed perfectly sensible from a clean-eating bent.

village idiot April 9, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Wow, that body armor will be a great prize for the next writing contest, MD. I can’t wait for your review. I better get busy writing.

As for prepping this week, concentrated on ammo and accessories. I bought another tactical 3 pt. sling, 4 double-magazine pouches, a tactical vest, and some parachord. Couldn’t get 5.56 ammo, so I bought 00 buckshot, #4 buckshot, heavy load #6, and #7 1/2 bird shot. Put all the shotgun shells in a steel ammo can and dropped in a couple of oxygen obsorbers.

I received 2 LDS starter kits I ordered last week, went to Sam’s Club yesterday and got some canned fruit, canned vegetables and canned meats. Picked up some peroxide, bandages, pads, band aids, advil, vitamens, pepto, imodium, and antacids. Also added some Vitamen C and more Sambucol. While there, I bought duct tape, electrical tape, trash bags, work gloves. 2 cases tp, paper plats and plastic utencils rounded out the week.

Good luck to everyone, and watch your six. With the murders in Tulsa, things are taking an ominous turn, and the Black Panthers are calling for black people to “Kill a Cracker for Trayvon”. I’m pretty sure if things keep going the way they are we will have chaos by the fall, which is what some people want. You folks in the big cities better stay close to home, and keep the powder dry. Just saying.

Carl in W.V. April 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

Just wanted to let you know I tried MFS ammo in my DPMS with 16 inch barrel and they shot just fine with no extractor marks on the cases..Ordered them from Palmetto State Armory

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

Will check out Palmetto State, Carl. Thanks for the heads up. I’ve bought a good bit of 5.56 lately, after giving it some thought, I’m going to buy some stuff for the side arms next week. And some slugs for the scattergun. Take care.

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm

vi, to the bp’s: i’m your huckleberry. shut up or bring it……..i ordered a case from ammoman to hold me over til sg delivers if they ever do, and 250lbs more of rice, beans, and oats. had a nice convo with some of the wife’s fam after easter dinner. was quite surprised to hear most were already on their way to prepping at least. one wants to but was lost, so we hooked him up with info at least. the whole afternoon turned into a shtf conversation. ……nice work you did this week , by the way. take care.

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Will do. I just wish I had your sources, as they are very accurate. But next best is having you and some others in the Wolfpack who know their stuff. I’ve been loading up some magazines, I really don’t have a specific reason or threat, just want to be prepared I guess. What’s your Def Con Level right now, RR?

riverrider April 11, 2012 at 10:27 am

vi, i’m chillin since i ordered the extra food, had the conversation. IF the fam shows up, they know whats what. you could say i’m in condition yellow plus. haven’t started hardening the house, but gathering the material to do it if needed. i’m in a good area for defense if its a racial thing. i think it’ll blow over after a bunch of yapping and chest beating. frankly theres enough good ol boys with built up tension around here, they would stand little chance. they might burn a city block or two. i’m a little concerned zim has disappeared tho.

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 10:52 am

river, it looks like Florida has overcharged Zimmerman, or perhaps they want room to negociate a plea, but the danger is if this goes to trial many jurors will not want to convict on a sentence that could lead to life imprisonment for something that might be self-defense. I said might. The eyewitnesses are corraboring parts of Z’s story, or the one’s I’ve seen are. And the reporting of the facts in the media is similar to the Rodney King incident. I hope Z cops a plea and this ends, but if he decides to go for broke, anything can happen. I guess the good news is that it gives us some time, but the demand for G and A will likely stay at a high level for quite some time.

Oh, and in economic news this morning, the Fed bought 61% of US Government debt this past year as demand from other sources(China, etc.) dried up. This is very dangerous, and most people are completely unaware of it. It’s just a matter of time before the dollar gets hammered and inflation goes into the stratosphere. Tighten your seat belts.

Bam Bam April 12, 2012 at 2:04 pm

VI,

Your are right about charging Z with second-degree murder. I am sure the charge was made with the idea that Z will plead down to manslaughter. But my feeling is that Z stands by his integrity, and will bring this case to trial. (I am forming this opinion by listing to the interview with Z’s brother.)

The prosecution will have a very difficult time establishing intent. The claim of self-defense is sufficient to cast a shadow of doubt on intent.

If the prosecution wanted a conviction, they should have charged Z with manslaughter.

There will be riots when Z is found innocent.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 5:16 pm

Village:
I’m glad to see someone else aware of the Fed’s actions and inevitable results. I’m buying hardware. Hacksaw blades, copper plumbing, soldering supplies… Anything that won’t degrade will be worth a heck of a lot more soon… I’m not buying to trade, only to keep the family going in the coming hard times. God Bless, Cos

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 10:29 pm

BamBam, I saw Alan Dershowitz on Hardball this afternoon, and he said this case could fall apart from the very start. He said Z was overcharged, and that a good judge would throw out the case. The prosecutor better hope Z pleads out or this could turn ugly sooner than I expected. I also saw where the Black Panthers were calling for an army of black men in Florida. I’m sure they will be roundly criticized by the usual suspects like the SPLC for forming a militia and being a hate group. When hell freezes over, that is.

Bam Bam April 13, 2012 at 9:26 am

VI,

It is already getting ugly in Florida. This morning’s paper had an article about the second white man in less than a week to be brutally attacked by a group of black men–they yelled “Treyvon” before beating him.

The white man was chasing a black man who beat up a woman and stole her purse. He caught up with the purse thief and got the purse. He was then attacked by 6-8 black men.

Anyone who goes downtown after dark is a target. This happened in the community plaza with hundred of people watching.

People will start avoiding downtown. Business owners will complain. Police presence will increase. Any conflict between a white police officer and a black person will set off race riots.

riverrider April 13, 2012 at 9:26 am

vi, i think they overcharged thinking the jury will aquit and they (the prosecutors) will be seen as doing their job. its all about the show now. the problem is the jury will remember the casey anthony trial, the death threats the jury got, having to go into hiding. plus they will bargain one man’s life against untold distruction if they aquit. i did see some daylight on this as t’s mother has softened her stand quite a bit now. as the facts get out thousands drop out of the “movement”….as far as the fed, its all ate up. i can’t see it lasting much past the election. btw, look out for the war on guns. three shootings headline the news today. last week it was the war on fat people, dozens of “news” stories including blaming autism on overweight mothers. maybe thats how they plan on dealing w/ the food shortages,put us on a national diet:) oh, and the topper, some athiest group wants to pull down a cross that was put up as a memorial to dead marines, including several that put the cross up that later died in combat, and its not even in a public area. buttheads all around.

village idiot April 13, 2012 at 11:04 am

River, I saw that story on the crosses put up by the Marines at Camp Pendleton. I really don’t see how this is a separation of church and state issue since the Marines put it up on their own volition. It’s stupid, but just another attack on Christians. Would you, as a Christian, be offended if some Jewish soldiers put up a monument to some of their dead? Of course not, this is just another strawman being used by the media to aid their allies on the Left. These purges of Christianity from public life are more examples of how bad our country is becoming.

Bam Bam, Florida is a microcosm of the US, and one incident could set this bomb off. Can you imagine if what happened in Tulsa with the revenge killings of 3 blacks by a Native American and a white guy happened in Orlando right now? Well, it could, and would set off a firestorm. I feel really bad for the police right now, I’m sure they are on pins and needles. Stay safe, BB.

Hunker-Down April 13, 2012 at 11:11 am

village idiot,

Since the last election black panthers don’t get arrested for breaking the law.

Bam Bam April 13, 2012 at 7:18 pm

VI,

Florida is a tinderbox right now. All its going to take is for a group of young blacks to yell “Treyvon” and threaten someone who is carrying.

nnyready April 9, 2012 at 5:30 pm

well lets see two moore eatentools for a totle of three,apaire of nee pads+elbow pads that came in a nice meshbag with drawstring[second use for that deff] a mesqetio headnet,a new d-cell strob light to replase the one i gave a way yrs ago,a set of gi gogles for vball,two belgum wash basine,s starting to git a head on this two beter than one busnuss. and also picking up a suply of max,s wax,s earpulgs for swiming ones used up the plastic cases should make good fishing and emergancy kits for small items we prepers love to have[headsup] still read the bible to a senior frend every fri wer in revelation now,perep the body prep the sole

Mother Earth April 9, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Greetings Wolfpack! Late posting, just got back from forced vacation! No offense but I could not live in Florida. Guess I’m too used to Ohio weather. Too hot for me. So even though I had to take a vacation, I managed to pick up two packages of bees to bring home. Let me just say, family was not pleased to have boxes of bees in the rv bathroom shower! Couldn’t pass up a Prepper opportunity! Prayers for Ridge Runner and wife.

Bam Bam April 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Too hot in Florida? It’s only April. It doesn’t get hot until July.

Surviving in Ky. April 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Hope everyone had a happy Easter. Put out some potatoes, squash and carrots in the garden. Hope they do well, I don’t have much of a green thumb and I am trying to learn as much from my mother as possible because I haven’t gardened in several years. Did find a new web site which makes it a breeze to find the cheapest ammo. It is called ammo seek. You just use the drop down boxes for the type of ammo you want and it will search the internet for the cheapest prices. Found several sites already which I plan to use in the future. New dehydrator and seed spouter came in. The dehydrator is amazing, used it on some canned green beans and the space required went from 10 cans to 2 quart jars. I am just practicing right now to get used to it and plan on using it a great deal in the near future. About all I have, hope everyone has a great week. God Bless!

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

ky, thanks for the link. saved it for later.

IndianaAli April 9, 2012 at 7:55 pm

Not too much prepping this week, conserving the $$$ as much as I can. Planted a few raspberry bushes and some garlic and more onions in the garden. Working on researching and building a worm bin. DS went mushroom hunting so we fixed up a few pans of those tasty morels… Yum….Also helped with castrating a small bull (always a fun experience LOL), picked up this bull along with a small heifer. Will be ready to butcher our other beef soon, so these will be “replacements” for the next year. Did alot of reorganizing and purging of items around the house that are just useless to make more room for preps. Picked some of our rhubarb and made a pie, pretty tasty for the first time try. Trying to avoid the news so much, it’s too depressing. Keep prepping everyone.

I'm A Prep Kat April 10, 2012 at 8:52 am

I picked up my side of beef yesterday from the butcher. It is all wrapped, vac packed and in the freezer – all 400 lbs of it. I feel truely blessed.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Wow, Prep Cat!
Way to go! I’m sure you just saved a bunch of money. (Call me for the BBQ if you don’t think you can eat it all.) LAM, God Bless, Cos

MtWoman April 9, 2012 at 8:34 pm

I asked myself this week WHY I was prepping. My reasons for starting are not as clear now as they were when I started two+ years ago. The price of food has gone up, but not that much. Violence has increased, but not to the level I thought it would by now. Martial law has not been declared; another major terrorist attack like 9-11 hasn’t occurred; and natural disasters have increased, but not as much as I thought they would. So, I thought I’d ask this question of myself. The answer I came up with is tied in with the article I wrote of the interview with my father about his childhood during the Depression (and that MD has published on the blog – thank you MD). Prepping is a way of life with me. Frugality, simplicity and co-operation seem to be the best way to live for any reason, and I have done so for a long time. Moving into a prepping mentality (adding to my stores and skills in the face of a threat of possible disasters and social breakdown) was an easy thing to do and seemed to be the next logical action, especially in the face of the changes I observed in our country and the world. I am satisfied with this answer and will continue.

On that note, here’s what I did to prep this week:

Defense: Went to gun shop shack out here in the boonies. The guy was really nice and patient with me. He checked out the 22 rifle my son is lending me. (It’s from my mother and probably the one she taught me to shoot when I was 14). He took it out back and shot it. It worked just fine. I also checked out 3 handguns: a Taurus 65 357, a 22 revolver, and another revolver. I’m getting more comfortable with the whole idea of guns, and liked how the Taurus felt and handled. Having someone as patient as this man was is a big help. Now I will go to the range and rent the Taurus to practice. Also want to find an outdoor range to practice with the 22 rifle…the inside one is SO LOUD I can’t relax and concentrate on what I’m doing…even with earplugs and headphones. Some of the guns people are shooting are SO loud, they hit me hard in the solar plexus. Just too much. But I’ll need to go there to try out the Taurus, so I’ll handle it for that.

It’s a HUGE step for me to get my head wrapped around needing to have a handgun for defense. I “know” it, but my gut has a hard time with the concept. I have been a pacifist for most of my life, and the world I’ve lived in has supported that. But, times have changed, and I no longer think I can afford to resist the NEED to have a defensive weapon. Please send me supportive thoughts as I make this transition.

Food:
-Dehydrated some more spinach (the neighbor gave me all her ‘old’ crop’), and some cauliflower and pineapple (on sale for $1.99 each and were GOOD). Will be powdering the spinach and using it to make homemade spinach noodles.
-Bought some canned goods and instant potato pouches.
-Got 2 more gallons of goat’s milk and made goat cheese. So easy and so GOOD!! Will soon be able to sell some!

First aid: Three plastic toolboxes for $15 at Big Lots…for 1st aid kits. I love that they have red tops. They also have those ‘on-top’ plastic compartments to keep things you need immediately handy. The large is for main/house, medium for truck, and small don’t know.

Gardening: Planted pole beans, corn, zucchini. Have sprouted and yet to plant: yellow squash, dill, basil, flat-leaf parsley, chives. Was a lot of work for this arthritic body: had to hand dig with a fork the soil and pull all the weeds. But…got it done and am hoping we have a mild Summer so the plants produce. BTW…I started all the plants in TP tubes like someone on here mentioned. Worked very well…so easy to transfer to the ground. I use milk cartons in the ground (top & bottom cut off) to help keep the cutworms out and concentrate the water, and the TP tubes inside that are an added bonus.

I have been helping a neighbor & friend of my father’s who’s having health problems. The guy’s son gave me some money for helping. It was sorely needed and much, much appreciated. It also is possible that I will be caretaking that house for a bit, as the son is going to move the man closer to him, and will need awhile to get the house in order to sell. I will be able to stay there, yet be very close to my father. This will give us both a much needed break and maybe even improve our relationship.

Had an actual conversation (!) with my mother. I called her to see about getting a recipe for the Spritzkuchen dough I will need for using the cookie press I got last week. It went fairly well, and she ended up mailing me the recipe. We’ve talked again since then. Wonder of wonders! Yet, I have no expectations, and will just keep it simple and light. I believe that an important part of ‘prepping’ is to have all relationships on as good a basis as possible; personal relationships, financial relationships, all. That’s why I keep trying with these difficult ones.

Thanks to MD for the blog, and thanks to all who post so much great info.
Keep on prepping, keep on prepping….and let’s keep LOVE in our hearts!

MtWoman April 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm

Forgot to add: my crank/solar/battery weather radio got a workout this last week, what with the storms that spawned 16 (!) tornados. It worked perfectly and gave me a sense of security I have not had. Thanks son!!

I’ve also been trying out the eneloop batts I got last week, and they are working fine.

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 8:53 am

ladies chime in here…..mtwoman you will find that, once you get used to shooting and the noise, you will find a confidence in yourself like you have never felt possible. i see it every time i teach a lady to shoot. they are the best students too, more open to learning then men. okay, bam bam and the glock grannies(meant most affectionately) preach on it now:)

MtWoman April 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Thanks RR…need that encouragement!!! :)

DJV April 11, 2012 at 7:09 pm

Riverrider is right. Once you start shooting, and hitting a target, it starts being fun!

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Mtwoman:
I always train wimens and kids with a .22. After they get the basics down without developing a flinch from the muzzle blast and recoil, I move them up slowly to bigger calibers. If you can only purchase one handgun, get one for defense and see if you can rent a .22 at a range or have a friend with one go to the range with you. God Bless, Cos

MtWoman April 11, 2012 at 8:22 am

Thanks Cos.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 5:19 pm

MtWoman:
No one commented on my “wimens” , so I’ll have to admit, I am literate and was just joking…. Sorry. Cos

MtWoman April 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Uh…kiddin’ about what Cos? Starting with a 22?

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 11:55 pm

Yep. I start wimens with a .21. (Less rekoil.) God Bless. Cos

DJV April 13, 2012 at 9:12 am

Cos: the reason I didn’t comment on the “wimens” was because I assume everything that isn’t spelled “correctly” is a TYPO ! I guess I miss out on a lot of humor that way! But I’m also bad about no proofreading my own posts either. Too funny! Next time I think you made a typo, I just laugh instead! Keep it up! I’m old and slow.

Hawkeye April 11, 2012 at 9:11 am

Hey riverrider….

I gotta second your finding that women make the best students…far and away infact. Back in the day when I was flight instructing (to build time), I found that women were “all ears” and really paid attention. Men…not so much usually. Men and guns, men and airplanes, men and camping…often they feel they were “born knowing”. Doctors and lawyers were the absolute worst…couldn’t teach them anything cause they already knew it ;-)

Ms ACW April 11, 2012 at 11:38 am

Mt Woman, I understand the feelings you have about guns. For years, my DH tried to help me through my fear of guns. I just couldn’t get past it. Finally on my own, I came to fear more the violence I had begun to see creeping into our community. At that point, I realized I must overcome the fear of guns. I asked my DH to teach me and once I started shooting and hitting the target my fear melted away. One time when I was shooting and really doing well, my DH asked “what was I aiming at?”. He didn’t understand why I was all of a sudden so much better. I told him I pretended to be shooting at someone coming after me. To those of you who watch The Walking Dead, remember the scene where Andrea finally got the “eagle eye” and started hitting the zombies? I felt like I turned a corner then. Ever since then, I carry my Glock with me.

The noise issue will get better. Anyway, just remember, you are the one you are protecting so try to put the noise out of your mind and focus on keeping yourself alive.

MtWoman April 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm

Thanks Ms ACW. Great support. I will get past all the stuff in my head about this…I hope. I’ll keep trying anyway.

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm

MtWoman, you are getting into the prepper mindset. Part of that mindset, the most important part in my mind, is not having to depend on someone for your life who is minutes away when seconds count. The self-confidence you gain from mastering a firearm will serve you well in every other facet of life. You will never think of yourself the same way again.

MtWoman April 11, 2012 at 8:02 am

Thanks VI…good support and appreciated. I’ll just take a deep breath…and let it out like I’ve been taught….and get on with it.

MENTALMATT April 9, 2012 at 9:31 pm

Villlage Idiot
I think you are right on point, as the powers to be up here in the “D”, are walking on eggshells right now, with a concent agreement with the governor that helped defang our corrupt city government, and with the “Trevon” incident we are expecting the worse, yet we have a Police Department that is almost totally depleated, under equipped, under trained ect.. I cannot say it enough to all the Pack, Stay Alert, Stay Armed, Stay Frosty..

worrisome April 9, 2012 at 10:08 pm

Mental Matt, are ya close to retirement age? I hate to see anyone give up, but boy is that area a spot where giving up may be the only answer? Bless you for what you do!

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

Thanks for all you do, Matt, and be careful out there. As we’ve seen over the weekend with Jarhead’s friend in Austin, Tx., even the most mundane calls can turn out badly for our LEOs. Hope you get your retreat soon.

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Mentalmatt:
Stay Safe! May God Bless, Cos

Southern Blonde April 9, 2012 at 9:33 pm

MtWoman: God Bless You. You are such an inspiration to all of us. I’m so glad you are talking to your mom, but if it doesn’t work out, it is not your fault. She is the one who is missing out on knowing a wonderful person such as you.

MtWoman April 9, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Southern Blonde…thank you. I appreciate the support. :)

JD April 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Been a busy week for me as well. Made it to the range twice over the past week. Worked primarily on my duty pistol and gear but spent some time with my Mosin as well.

My two young sons were on spring break all last week so we got to do some fishing. Took them on their first night fishing outing, which they were both stoked for. But by 1230am, they were done and said that night fishing isn’t for them just yet.

Planted a 3rd blueberry bush and planted 18 strawberries as well. Started some other seeds in my south facing window. Been very disappointed that some of my seeds have not fared well, whether started indoors or out. I have several seeds from the company “Seeds of Change” that I got last year. Unfortunately, the germination rates have been fairly low, especially with different tomato varieties as well as spinach and some other herbs. What I got last year was new and had about an 80% germination rate at most. This year so far, about 60%. Very disappointed by the results.

Loaded, hauled, unloaded and spread two pick-up loads of dirt and compost for my garden areas.

Since I do patrol at night, I have done quite a bit of research and training on low-light combat and using flashlights. I read two books on the subject this past week, “Fight at Night” by Andy Stafford and “Own the Night” by Scott Wagner. I learned a couple of things from both.

Take care Wolfpack and I pray that everyone here has a blessed week!

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 8:21 pm

JD:
Just an old grunts suggestion, aim low at night. We naturally aim high without light. In the worst case scenario, you’ll skip richochets into the bad guys. God Bless and Protect you. Cos

West Texas April 9, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Interesting week – as far as prepping goes did more thought than bought… acquired $7.75 in pre ’65 quarters, got a few as change in a convenience store and asked if I could buy all the quarters she had (hoping someone had thrown a roll) ended up with around $175.00 worth of junk silver for my trouble.
When my bus broke down (I drive for greyhound) I got to spend 5 ½ hours on the side of the road listening to neo-hippy occupy wall street oxygen thieves rail about how horrible life is. I made it through without actually assaulting any of them. I split the time between talking to a few of the older folks about how things were done back when they were young, and contemplating stripping the flesh from one particular punk in a Che’ Guevara T-shirt who would not stop whining.
Had a 7 gallon water container miraculously open on its own (either a miracle or the curious fingers of my 7 year old son) didn’t realize it for a few days… buckled the hard wood flooring – wife is not happy. On the other hand she is looking more favorable at getting a high capacity water storage tank http://www.surewatertanks.com/ so that too is a net positive.
My only purchase this week – Sam’s Club had 25lb bags of table salt for $3.97 each. I bought 200 pounds.
That’s my week Wolfpack – Happy Prepping

“Experience has shown that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

MtWoman April 10, 2012 at 8:50 am

West Texas…I have noticed the ‘change’ in Seeds of Change seeds too. They seem to have become ‘too big’ of a business for their own good. I understand that they are owned by the Mars company, and there may be ties there to Monsanto. So, I do not trust their seed these days.

I have just discovered this seed company, and want to give them a try: http://www.botanicalinterests.com/.

I’m also going to get some seed from: http://rareseeds.com/.

TN Sam April 10, 2012 at 4:24 pm

I have bought seeds from here and have never had a problem.
http://www.victoryseeds.com. Keep the faith.

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:17 pm

WT, you hit the jackpot on the silver coins, congrats. I laughed my butt off at your description of the occupy punks. I know the feeling. Happy prepping to you.

Meriah April 12, 2012 at 12:36 am

I recommend Fedco Seeds from Maine. Organic and mostly heirloom. They have a limited ordering period but I’ve had great results. They also sell plants for any interested, and again I’ve had great results, they package and handle plants extremely well. Good luck with the gardening :)

DiverGal (So. Fla) April 10, 2012 at 7:41 am

Hey Wolfpack,

Hope everyone is doing great and prepping well. This week was a week of “girl prepping” in the divergal household. With 1 mother, 3 SIL, 1 sister, and 4 neices I figured that was a good hole to fill in the preps this week and coupons made it great.

10 Sayfree Maxis (38 cents with coupons)
35 Carefree panty liners (free w coupons plus 63 cents overage each)
15 boxes asst tampons (no more than 1.99 each w coupons)

Watched my nephew build 3 solar cookers including one he made out of an old car sunshade he found in my garage. We only tried out one before he left and he wasnt satisfied with the results so he plans on tweaking it when he comes back for the summer. He and another of my nephews plan on working for me over the summer so I get cheap labor and get to spend time with them. YAY.

5 lbs of coffee
600 rounds for the Glock

That was the end of the prepping. All the nieces and nephews are finished with spring breaks and have all gone home to their parents. I love having them but certainly enjoy the peace and quiet once they go home. This week I have to refill my freezer since teens can eat more than their body weight every day. Thank goodness I don’t have to feed them year round.

My garden is doing great, not too much longer before I’ll be canning and dehydrating up a storm. My neighbors left a nasty note on my door about my chickens. Not sure what their problem is since Im hardly the only one who has them. I have no rooster and other than them being chatty in the mornings when Im feeding them they are really quiet.

Thats it for me. Im off to play boat captain today since one of mine has a school play with his daughter today.

Happy Prepping to all. Those who need them have my prayers and good thoughts.

DG

DiverGal (So. Fla) April 10, 2012 at 7:55 am

I forgot about my Dak hams. Found them on sale at CVS for $2.50 and I used up $20 of ECB buying 8 of them. I’m sure I forgot other stuff too. I should write it down as I go.

DG

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:24 am

Don’t feel bad about forgetting, DG. I promise you it will get worse. LOL. I really like the idea of you having your nieces and nephews visit you over their spring and summer breaks. That is the greatest gift you can give them…your time. Great preps for the week by the way.

DiverGal (So. Fla) April 10, 2012 at 4:17 pm

I love having the kids often. Unfortunately they are scattered all over the world literally. 4 in Germany, 1 in Georgia, 2 in Cali, 2 a few hours south of me. Happily I am off the ‘grandchild hook’, since my mom has 9 already.

As for the memory issues, its crazy the stuff I remember but half the time cant tell you what I had for breakfast. If I had a nickle for every useless fact that is stored in my brain I would be in a good place. That said, I made blueberry waffles for breakfast…. I think.

DG

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 8:23 pm

DiverGal: LOL, I think I had breakfast… maybe! Love your humor. God Bless, Cos

DiverGal (So. Fla) April 12, 2012 at 8:22 am

Cos,

I NEVER forget to HAVE breakfast. It’s the most important meal of the day. It’s the what that is the problem.

Lunchtime on the other hand passes me by so often that I’ve become a 2 meal a day girl.

On another note, late yesterday I got 6 pallets of stuff from France delivered to my driveway. My in-laws apparently were pretty anxious to get all mine and hubby’s crap out of their basement. I’m thinking there are going to be many trips to Goodwill in the coming weeks. I’m sure glad Ive been cleaning out the garage.

DG

DJV April 10, 2012 at 9:00 am

I heard on the radio this morning that AT&T, Verizon, other phone entities and some Law Enforcement entity have joined together to form a data base of all smart phones, so that when the smart phone is stolen, it can be rendered unusable as soon as it is reported stolen. It said that stolen smart phones is a serious problem. Well….. doesn’t that mean they can render them unusable whether they are stolen or not? Yes. So I guess that’s one way to control our ability to communicate. Any thoughts from the Wolf Pack? Sounds scary to me.

BamaBecca April 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

eerie….

I don’t have a smart phone, don’t WANT a smart phone, but all of my kids and most of my family do have one. When you try to tell them that they can be tracked on it, etc etc….their response is that as long as they aren’t doing anything wrong what difference does it make? ugghhh I love my family, but they are typical “sheeple” and I’m the weird one!

axelsteve April 11, 2012 at 2:08 am

Sometimes I would like to have a prepaid phone so they could not track me.

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

Mine IS a prepaid phone. I don’t sign contracts for ANYTHING anymore. I wasn’t aware that prepaids couldn’t be tracked. Thanks for that info. Good to know!

Kelekona April 11, 2012 at 6:13 pm

Congratulations, you set off my spam filter. Those wacky spammers should go away since they’re not accomplishing anything except disrupting society.

riverrider April 10, 2012 at 7:35 pm

dj, thanks for the ammo link. everybody was out of stock but i saved it for later.

azyogi April 11, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Why bother with shutting down phones one by one ‘they’ have allready shut down whole towers and blanked all commo from a given area. My thought is if they can track and shut down stolen phones why not go after the thieves. Instead off selling more phones [by turning them off] catch the thieves and return the stolen phone to rightfull owner. I’d think taking care of the victim wouuld be better than takeing care of cell phonw makers

SMB April 10, 2012 at 10:59 am

I am new to prepping, but I feel like I have been going this direction all my life. I have been lurking for quite awhile. I have done quite a bit in the last month, I started a notebook to get organized, got my husband on board, and “hinted” to my adult kids to get a reaction. This week I organized a food storage in my basement, and still reading and researching everything.

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

Welcome to the Pack. You are in for the best learning experience ever, and that is the collected wisdom and experience of many lifetimes that is present on this site.

DJV April 10, 2012 at 4:34 pm

SMB, welcome! You will love this site! I can’t tell you how much I have learned and I am pretty new at it myself! Everyone here is eager to help. So if you have a question, just ask, and it won’t be long before several people will tell you what they know about it. It’s great! This site is the one place where we get to choose our family! LOL!

SMB April 11, 2012 at 12:14 pm

Thanks for the welcomes! I love this site! Now I probably have the stupidest question ever, what is a #10 can and what is it for? Is it the big cans like sams or Walmart has?

JP in MT April 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm

SMB:
Yes, its the big can that things like sause and beans come in. A better way to think of it is the old 3 pound coffee can.
I don’t buy the beans, etc, from the grocery store because I don’t have that big of a family to consume all the contents before it goes bad without refrigeration. I will buy freeze dried and dehydrated foods in #10 cans as they will last up to a month or more once opened. Some of the longer lasting foods (ie. rice, beans, and wheat) I will buy (or store) in buckets from 1 to 6 gallons in size.

PS. It’s not a stupid question if you don’t know.

Hawkeye April 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm

SMB………
They’re gallon cans…about 7″ tall, 6″ diameter. Go to the EmergencyEssentials web site for pics and description.

Hunker-Down April 11, 2012 at 1:59 pm

SMB,

Welcome to the Wolf Pack, you’re gonna like it here.
Yes, those big cans at Walmart with veggies are #10 cans.

Bam Bam April 11, 2012 at 2:45 pm

SMB,

This is not a dumb question. The #10 can is like the ones you see in Walmart and Sams. Many of us order cases of food in #10 cans. The two primary ways we store food for long term storage is in the #10 cans or in 5 gal. buckets. Either you buy the cans already packed or you buy the product and pour it into 5 gal. buckets and put in an oxygen absorber. I go with the #10 can because I don’t want to mess with packaging my own food, it’s not that much more, and you don’t have to worry about bugs. And it’s easier to use up the food in a #10 can than the food in a 5 gal. bucket, unless you have a really big family.

DJV April 11, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Yes. a #10 looks like it holds approx one gallon.

Nuttbush54 April 11, 2012 at 4:53 pm

The only “stupidest” question is the one not asked. Don’t worry about asking questions, we have all been new at this one time or another. We ALL learn something from questions, you get the answer and we learn not to assume everyone knows what we are talking about when we make shorthand comments.

A #10 can is the big can like you can find at Sams or Walmart. Remember when coffee used to be in the bigger metal cans instead of the plastic canisters? That was a #10 can. Dehydrated and freeze dried foods are sold in #10′s and also smaller cans.

And welcome to the pack. ( We call ourselves the Wolf Pack)

SMB April 11, 2012 at 6:13 pm

Thanks everyone!

Bam Bam April 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm

SMB,

Ask questions. We all started out by asking lots of questions. There will come a day when you start answering a lot of questions and realize how far you have come. Questions are an opportunity for gratitude.

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Welcome SMB, to the Wolf Pack! Now you can’t lurk any longer, lol!

Mrs. Prepper April 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

Hi everyone,
Prayers for all the Wolf Pack. Been extremely busy and depressed about recent events I just didnt feel like dumping my problems on the Pack but thought the support and encouragement from this wonderful group might lift my mood. so updating for several weeks catchup. BIL and SIL and 5 of their kids moved into our basement…praying for patience as we try to find way for this to work. Transformed basement into 2 br apartment with a ft a separate entrance but one of the kids has troubled law/drug history so my stress is thru roof now…already incidents of police at the house and incidents at school (they go to DD school now) and DD is embarrassed by all the talk and questions about “the people living in her basement”. DD is honor student and multiple school sports so I want to keep her on good path in life without these distractions or gossip. I hope we dont regret allowing them to move in. Time will tell.
Had to move all my prepping supplies upstairs and tryin to deal with disorder whilst tryin to keep it hush-hush from my new houseguests.

Started seeds in my homemade newspaper pots on. Saturday.
Purchased the materials to build (2) 16×6 pvc trellis
Homemade sauerkraut is still sitting but worried I didnt do correctly
Trying to overcome mouse problem found in my pantry! Ewww! Chewed into lots of preps that had to be thrown out…cried for half the day over the cost and time of acquiring those items but now more determined to get everything into buckets!
Reading The New Self Sufficient Gardener by Seymour. LOVE this book! So many ideas and tips for my next location and some garden tips I will try while we are still at this location.
Rec’d MD’s new book and skimmed thru it as I am in middle of a read.
Saw Hunger Games at matinee–like the book better.
No prep purchases last few weeks due to the cost of tranforming basement ate up ALL of our cash on hand.
Praying things will turn for the better. DH thinks we will all benefit once they “get on their feet” and can begin to contribute towards living expenses. Praying he is right, cuz its hard enough to support our 5, let alone 7 more people to worry about. Thanks MD for giving us a place to share our pain, tribulations, knowledge, help, encouragement, thoughts and prayers with each other…this too is prepping, for whats the point in prepping for disasters, if we lose our ability to care for those who are hurting? Sorry for the rambling but it does feel better to write it out

cosmolined April 10, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Mrs. Prepper:
God Bless you and give you and yours strength for trying to help family. Someone using drugs who lives in your home is Not a good thing. (I kicked out my Step-son when he admitted he was using. (That didn’t go over well with Mommy….) ) Lock up everything to the best of your ability. Maybe a small firesafe for the trunk of your car…. If their predicament is due to overbuying on credit or something like that, use them as an example of what not to do for your daughter. If they are homeless from bad luck, maybe they will get back on their feet and at minimum pay half of your bills until they can move out. If and when they move out, change ALL of your door locks. The druggie will always remember your TV and computer…. Good Luck, Cos

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

Cos,
Thanks for the advice. I have secured/locked what I could. They have a separate entrance and do not have need to enter our area of living space, but nonetheless, I am still worried about the associated going-ons and people of contact that my nephew congregates. This is keeping me up at night worrying about the drug deal going wrong thing that we hear about on the news etc. His parents seem to be no longer shocked by his actions nor do they appear to set any consequences for same; they appear to have simply given up on the situation and “whatever happens, happens” kinda of attitude b/c they “can’t control him”. It’s frustrating and I’m trying to put my worry in God’s care and hope that my fears are not realized and time passes swiftly and the whole ordeal is over quickly. The economy being as it is, I think we’re in for a long ride.

worrisome April 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm

This is happening more and more. People loosing jobs, houses and having to move in with other family or friends. Goes to my feeling that we are in this gradual downturn on our way to an even bigger downturn. Make the family in the basement help our around there. Children can dig up the soil for a garden, help with the laundry, do the dishes, scrub toilets and sinks and floors, mow the lawns, trim the trees. The busier they are the less likely they will have the time to get into trouble. If they don’t help, ask them to move along. The whole thing with someone using drugs is that they may infect others with their habit. Control of this of primary concern! Safety for yourself and your family is first. So much depends upon how aware the parents of this drug person is……..leaving you sooo unprotected if they are in denial.
But if they help then you are blessed and the point of prepping is for making sure that you can take care of yourselves and others. Good luck and bless you for your effort!

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:36 am

Worrisome,
Thanks for your words of encouragement. Actually we did get a great deal of help in the 2nd phase of preparing our garden; many hands made lighter work for sure. I was very appreciative of the extra hands in helping; that was wonderful. Hopefully I will have as many hands helping when it’s time to plant all my new seedlings I’ve started as well as picking/harvesting. These are dear family that I do love, but at the same time, the drug situation has put me upside down with fear. I’m praying there are no more incidents as a result. Combining households to increase financial frugality is a wonderful and desireable plan, considering today’s economic situation and would benefit many families, but it also comes with downsides, even with the most thoughtful planning. Thanks again for your suggestions; I am determined to stay positive and pray for guidance through this situation.

Papabear April 11, 2012 at 2:36 am

Mrs. Prepper,
Prayers said for you.

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:37 am

PB,
thank you

Ms ACW April 11, 2012 at 11:20 am

Mrs. Prepper, I truly hope this situation doesn’t last long for your family. To me, just having ONE extra person in the house is difficult, I can’t imagine 7! Your story gives us all an idea what it will be like if we have people “join” us when shtf. It won’t be easy.

Hopefully, you can keep them out of your storage while they are there, but definitely change the locks once they leave. Good luck.

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:41 am

Mrs. ACW,
I hadn’t thought about it like you described; dealing with friends/family after SHTF…you are so right. But as everyone says, SHTF scenarios can be different things at different times and not just large scale so I suppose this a mini SHTF for us. As always, it could be sooo much worse and I must continue to be grateful for everything “as is” and thankful it’s not worse. Minus the drug situation, this could be mutually benefical to both our families, under the right conditions. Thanks for helping me see it in another way. Thank you

DJV April 11, 2012 at 3:47 pm

God bless you, Mrs. Prepper. I will pray for you and your family as well as the extended family in the basement. You are definitely earning stars in your crown.

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:43 am

DJV,
Thank you so much for the prayers for all of us. Not sure about the stars in my crown, as I’m supposed to give with a grateful heart….I’m still guarded with fear, so I’m not at the grateful heart just yet, but I’m working on it day by day.

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Mrs. Prepper, I am praying for you! Wow, what a life changing situation! Your angst and despair are perfectly normal, my dear. And then to get mice on top of it! Set regular traps baited with bacon and peanut butter (just a little of each). Don’t use Decon as the mice will crawl into the wall and die – and the stink won’t go away for weeks.

You will need to be on the same page with your husband and set some boundaries. I would think a no drug policy would be the first step. Stay close to your DD and talk it out with her; she is learning some hard lessons first hand.

Natalia April 10, 2012 at 2:21 pm

testing, as twice my posts on another thread have disappeared into thin air, and don’t want to try to remember all the words a third time if they’ll just be lost again

chloe April 12, 2012 at 9:27 am

natalia…that has been happening to me too.

Papabear April 12, 2012 at 8:51 pm

Natalia, Chloe,
The problem you are experiencing sometimes will occur when the text is transmitted. If you have a lot to write do it locally to your computer, such as with a word processor or notepad, then cut and paste. If it disappears you don’t have to retype it. Just cut and paste again.

chloe April 14, 2012 at 8:01 am

thanks papabear.

Hunker-Down April 13, 2012 at 11:06 am

Natalia,

I have been trying to post to another thread for 3 days and all have failed. In the meantime, posts to other threads work fine.

Natalia April 14, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Chloe, Papabear, and Hunker-Down, thanks for the replies. I found out that my post kept going into MD’s spam filter, I am guessing that it may be that the recipe link I had in the post had ads on the site or something. I have since then been doing what papabear says, and next time a post disappears, I will break up the link and see if that helps. Maybe that will help you Chloe and HunkerDown too? Sorry to hear you’ve been having trouble too.

BamaBecca April 10, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Got some bad news today. As of Friday evening the dh will no longer have a job. His boss is shutting down all of his trucks due to diesel prices. He just can’t afford to run them anymore. its been tough enough with me being laid off since Feb. Oh well, we’ll just tighten the belt a little bit more, thank the good Lord that I have preps…and not many bills anymore and see what He has in store for us next. I keep hearing Lintpicker telling me to stop worrying about a job cuz the Lord has plans….thank you Lintpicker…and wherever you are…say a prayer for us and I’ll be saying one for you as well!

Lantana April 10, 2012 at 6:17 pm

Prayers for you and your DH, BamaB. Keep on thinking creatively–this may be the good Lord’s way of opening a door to something you would not have considered before.

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 10:09 am

Thank you for the prayers Lantana. I know that God has something better in mind for us :) A while back, I would have truly panicked. But although I am a little nervous, I know that God has plans. He has ALWAYS taken care of us before…and He will continue to do so….and we have been in some pretty tight spots before. I’m just gonna keep a closer eye out for that “new” door ;)

village idiot April 10, 2012 at 11:37 pm

I’m sorry to hear that, BamaBecca. If you would be willing to move to the Ark-La-Tex, your husband would have no problem getting a job. There is a huge oil and gas boom going on here, and I heard an add on a radio station today begging for drivers. This was in Shreveport, but there are driving jobs all over the area. If you can’t leave Alabama, I will be praying for your husband to get a new job there. And for strength and wisdom for you both. Keep the faith.

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 10:18 am

Shreveport? hmmm That is certainly an idea. Thank you very much! I really prefer to stay here if at all possible though, but we’ll explore some different options as well. I have 6 grandbabies that I would HATE to leave…and with things getting so bad, I want to be close to my kids just in case. I know they aren’t prepping…and no matter HOW old they get, my “mama” instinct is as strong as ever! We would have to scratch and scrape to feed them all, but I’ll do my darnedest to be here for them no matter what if and when TSHTF. Plus my mom isn’t in very good health and I wouldn’t feel comfortable being so far away from her. We’ll just do a lot of praying and see what God has in store. Thanks, all, so much for the thoughts and prayers!

Plant Lady April 11, 2012 at 12:29 am

BamaBecca: I feel for you! The same thing happened to us about 4 yrs. ago at this time of year, the first time diesel prices skyrocketed. The company my husband drove for had to close its doors after 65 yrs. That was our real wake-up call that started us seriously prepping. Luckily we had a little savings, but not much, as at that point I hadn’t been working for 2 yrs. since i was caring for MIL 24/7. Hubby took a couple months off and we got a lot done – enlarging the garden, building the chicken coop and getting chickens, started planting fruit trees and bushes, etc. Luckily, good drivers are always in demand and he soon got another job…a better job! Now he is home almost every night, where before he was usually gone Mon.-Fri. And he is usually a lot closer to home when he is out, since he hauls “trains”, which are two trailers. Due to weight restrictions he rarely goes out of state. That sure is a blessing for me, since I get a little break in caring for his mom when he is home. Sure seemed like a tragedy when it happened, but it sure worked out for the best!
So try not to worry too much…and if you get desperate, let me know. The company hubby works for is alway hiring…they haul mostly steel. Of course, with a name starting with “Bama” you might not like moving north into snow country…

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 10:33 am

Plant Lady, thanks for the thoughts and prayers. I just told dh the same thing last night. He has been working 6 days a week and there are some things that need doing around here that I really need help with. I told him that maybe we could take a week off and get them done, then start looking for another job. I DO have faith that the Lord will provide.

LOL, as for “snow country” , I don’t know about that. He tried his hand at driving cross country a few years ago and loved it….until it got winter time and he experienced his first snow storm! It wasn’t long after that, he found a job closer to home. I still tease him about that. As for me, I lived a year in northern Utah…and although I LOVED the area….my blood is too thin for all that snow and cold! brrrr I still get chills just thinking about it! The Lord put me in the south for a reason! lol

He does love to watch that show on tv about the “ice roads” but I don’t think he wants to give it a try himself. I WILL keep your offer in mind tho if things get to looking too bad.

We’ve been talking for months about building a chicken pen and getting chickens, so hopefully “keeping my fingers crossed” we can at least get that accomplished. I haven’t had chickens in years…and I LOVE fooling with them. I also want a goat, mostly to help clean out some brush in back of the house for garden space, but he has hesitated because he hasn’t had time to build a shelter for it. With all the coyotes around here, I couldn’t just leave one tied like I’ve seen done by some people. The coyotes would get him for sure!

God bless you for caring for your MIL….so many types these days wouldn’t bother. ;) And thanks for the thoughts and prayers. *hugs*

DJV April 11, 2012 at 2:05 pm

I will say prayers for both of you as well. Like you said, “thank the good Lord I have preps”. Ain’t it the truth. If everyone would prep, the collective fear and anxiety of this country would go so far down! Might not have all that road rage, anger, etc that we experiance from so many folks “out there”.

chloe April 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

bama…prayers for your financial situation to improve…rest in the Lord’s providence. cheers.

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:45 am

Bama,
Prayers for you and your DH for new employment quickly.

Pineslayer April 10, 2012 at 11:03 pm

Have to throw this out there…

http://www.coldsteel.com/sales.html

Makes me wish I lived out there, kinda. I have heard that this is great sale. I have lots of CS and they never disappoint.

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 10:45 am

Ok you guys, I got a chance to use my hand cranked lantern last night, so I wanted to give you all a report on it. Until now, I had left it in the package, saving it for when SHTF. As most of you know, we bought a used rv last year to save money….and last night our inverter died. So…no power. With dh about to be unemployed, we aren’t sure what we’re gonna do, but for now we just have an extension cord run over to the neighboring rv spot. We are the only ones living here, so that’s not a problem. I’m pretty good at improvising, so we’ll “make do” until we can get it replaced or repaired…..plus get some practice for an “off-grid” scenario.

Back to the lantern: It took only a few cranks to get light and it has 3 different settings, but even on the highest setting, the light isn’t very bright. It would get you to the “outhouse” and back, if you had one, but I won’t plan on reading by it or much of anything else. The lantern is manufactured by Gordon and I bought it at Harbor Freight some months ago. The enclosed booklet says that you can get up to 100,000 hours of light with it, so I’ll keep it around just in case. I just won’t count on it for a main source of lighting in a SHTF scenario.

Ok you guys, I’ll check back later! for now I have to unplug the computer and plug the fridge and freezer back up! lol This is gonna be interesting!!

Carl in W.V. April 11, 2012 at 11:01 am

I see alot of people on here waiting for and/or backordering ammo. Don’t get me wrong I have done the same thing and even swore by some of those brands. But I am here to tell you that Wolf, Tulammo and MFS are some good ammo, clean ammo and pretty darn accurate. I shoot often and one of the biggest concerns I had was it will gum up the action with the laquer coating. NOT TRUE they don’t use laquer on the newer ammo and besides if you clean your gun after you shoot you you will never have a problem anyway. I just hate to see my new found family getting ripped off from lack of knowledge especially the new preppers. Buy yourself a box if your gun is not leaving extractor marks on the casing then it’s just fine to shoot. This ammo is not PROK range compliant.

Carl in W.V. April 11, 2012 at 11:02 am

here is a video on Wolf ammo check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZB3UfG960

Jarhead 03 April 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Thanks Carl, I buy Wolf and other Russian for my SKS and AK never having an issue.
I think most of the concerns have been for American manufactured 223 ammo. I bought 200 rounds of American Eagle 233 55 gr for $7 a box. A bit more than what I pay at gun shows but still affordable.

Walmart carries the Tulammo but goes pretty fast.

Hawkeye April 12, 2012 at 9:24 am

Carl in W.V. ……
I haven’t bought an AR in a couple of years now but the last AR upper I bought was a DPMS. The warranty specifically stated that if laquer coated ammo was found to have been used, the warranty was voided. I don’t believe Polymer coated ammo was available then. Perhaps Polymer coating is acceptable. Anyway, we differ in our regard for the Russian ammo :-)

Luke April 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm

Ok well to start off I went through a 32hour labor with my wife. She decided to go all natural. I cried worse then my son. And my arms were like jello. My wife also decided breast feed so we spent all night being woken up at 1 hour intervals. So I’m tired and going to bed again.
Also ordered a ruger sr556

Hawkeye April 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Luke….
Congradulations to you and the wife. You’ve hot your work cut out for you for awhile!
You’ll love the SR556…I do!!

DJV April 11, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Congratulations on the new baby!

Natalia April 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Congratulations, Luke! Wonderful news!

BamaBecca April 11, 2012 at 6:59 pm

congrats on the new bundle of joy Luke!

Copperhead April 11, 2012 at 7:52 pm

Congratulations on the son, Luke! God’s blessings to you and your family.

Lantana April 12, 2012 at 6:35 am

Congratulations, Dad!

chloe April 12, 2012 at 9:34 am

luke, congratulations on the birth of your son…am so laughing at your post…re ‘cried worse than my son’….and ‘I’m tired’….cheers.

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 11:00 am

Luke, congrats on the new bundle of joy that is soon to come. Oh, yeah, and on the new baby, also. Hahaha!

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

Luke,
Congrats on the new baby! Glad to hear DW is BF–it’s the best start in life for your son. Once routine is established, sleep should return soon. Have faith…the most precious joy of my life has been my 3 beautiful children that God has gifted me. The ROI (return on investment) would rival the greatest windfalls of Wall Street million fold. Enjoy every moment, even the sleepless ones…as they past oh too quickly. Today you’re holding him in your arms and the next they’re on the school bus and the next they’re 21. It’s a blink of time that you rarely notice the speed of it, unless it passes.

Mrs. Prepper April 12, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Luke,
Congrats also to DW on both the “all natural birth” and the BF. It’s nice to see more families opting for these choices (when medically appropriate of course) as our society isn’t always welcoming to these personal choices. As a mother of (2) 9lbs boys and (1) nearly 10 lbs girl who went “all natural” and BF all 3, I know what it’s like to do both, against the push/pull of others wanting me to do the opposite. Thankfully we are seeing more support of both natural birth and BF.

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Lol, Mrs. Prepper – “Today you’re holding him in your arms and the next they’re on the school bus and the next they’re 21…”

Oh, how I can relate. And how did I get to be so old?! I don’t feel like a senior citizen! Surely, there’s been a mistake somewhere….

Papabear April 12, 2012 at 6:11 pm

Congrats Luke! We went natural on our 2, and home schooled them. That was a really long time ago. Watching the GS grow is almost as exciting.

farmmomwannabe April 12, 2012 at 10:39 pm

Congratulations Luke and wife! You’ve just had an experience you’ll remember “forever”. There is nothing like having a little one of your own to bring out all the best in you. I still laugh when remembering some of my mom’s comments coming out of my mouth….especially the “dumb” things I swore I would NEVER say! Enjoy!

Encourager April 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Congratulations and God’s blessings to both you and your wife, Luke! So, what are the stats??? Just like a guy, details aren’t important, lol!! And what is the baby’s name???

Forgetta-bout the sleep. It will be non-existent for about six weeks!

Natalia April 11, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Today’s books:

NONFICTION

Healing Herbs & Spices : Health Benefits of Popular Herbs & Spices Plus Over 70 Recipes To Use Them In

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Herbs-Spices-Benefits-ebook/dp/B006Z7VOZ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334160758&sr=1-1

Build Your Own Super Chicken Tractor

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Super-Chicken-Tractor-ebook/dp/B005CLRII4/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334160956&sr=1-1

How To Forage For Free Food – The Let’s Get Foraging Recipe Book (this is a recipe book to accompany the foraging book I posted the other day. Please note “Grandma”‘s review lower down the page for info on British to US terms.)

http://www.amazon.com/How-Forage-Free-Food-ebook/dp/B007SOU6Z0/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

Hair Gone Wild! Recipes & Remedies for Natural Tresses
http://www.amazon.com/Recipes-Remedies-Natural-Tresses-ebook/dp/B007JYFF50/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

Build Your Own Automatic Seed Sprouter

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Automatic-Sprouter-ebook/dp/B004OR1S4C/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334164853&sr=1-1

FICTION

-What Came After

http://www.amazon.com/What-Came-After-ebook/dp/B005V5DJ7U/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334158522&sr=1-1

There are also two prequels to the above book, though I don’t know how much they will be about our interests, I thought I’d include them because they relate to the above book, and you can decide:
The Mechanic (Stories from the days before What Came After)
http://www.amazon.com/Mechanic-Stories-before-After-ebook/dp/B007AYP8YC/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334158522&sr=1-2
and
Silence (Stories from the days before What Came After)
http://www.amazon.com/Silence-Stories-before-After-ebook/dp/B007B4X60O/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334158522&sr=1-3

DAY OF THE DOGS

speculates on what would happen to our advanced society if a Solar Flare burnt out our electric grid and reduced us to an 1850′s level of technology. The book explores how people and governments would react in the final week before the CME impacts earth.
http://www.amazon.com/DAY-OF-THE-DOGS-ebook/dp/B007OWQUTC/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334159010&sr=1-1

I haven’t read any of these books yet. Hope someone finds some of them useful.

JP in MT April 11, 2012 at 6:14 pm

Natalia:
Thank you for the links. You are better at finding these than I am!

Natalia April 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm

JP, you’re very welcome. I am slightly OCD about checking for books for myself every day; I use ereaderiq dot com, and as I’m checking anyway, I keep my eyes out for them. I bet I miss some though–make sure you post any I miss, okay? Thanks for your comment. :)

mama April 11, 2012 at 7:16 pm

thank you so much natalia for your posts esp on free books- i love my kindle and really hope i dont lose the ability to have it if and when tshtf- although my hubby- rightly so- said i wont have time to read it…..but i got a solar charger usb just in case- at harbor freight and it works great- i use it daily to charge my cell phone and mp3 and my kindle when it needs it

Natalia April 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm

I like the idea of a solar charger. As long as the kindle doesn’t break down and you can’t repair it, and there isn’t such a strong EMP that would stop it (I’m pretty ignorant about what they would and wouldn’t stop) there’s no good reason it shouldn’t keep working. It won’t need internet to work because all those books will already be on it. You may not have time to read it; then again, if you’re hunkering down you may have way too much time on your hands and it’d be a great help. Thanks so much for the reply and I’m glad you can use them. :)

Hunker-Down April 11, 2012 at 2:02 pm

You pour guy! You have an overactive imagination.

Congratulations to she who walked the walk, and to her decision to ‘go natural’.

mama April 11, 2012 at 2:27 pm

congrats- i hope baby and mom are doing well- i am glad to see mamas still doing natural childbirth and still breast feeding- i did both with all my four kids
breastfeeding is a lot easier than bottlefeeding on both mama and dad

my real name? April 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Little behind on posting. Gotta catch up on WDYDTPTW x3.
Berkeys, check
2000 gal water storage, check
vacuum sealed (into manageable qt size) 100+ lbs asst’d dried beans, check
same with 50lb rice, check
ditto 25lb oatmeal, check
ammo, check
also packaged grits, buckwheat, wheatberries, rye flour, check
storage facility for over flow, check (DS said, what would happen if this somehow got on Storage Wars? I replied, I’d have to kill whoever got it & get it back! Was only partly kidding)
3000 servings assorted breakfast foods, check
5000 servings assorted lunch/dinner foods, check
ammo, check
sluce box, check
accessories for essence extractor, check
worm farm, check
vacuum sealed 100+ sead packets, check
75 lbs sugar, check
50 lbs brown sugar, check
75 lbs powdered milk, check
50 lbs coffee, check
20 lbs tea, check
15 lbs cocoa, check
15 lbs black pepper, check
ammo, check
cross bow + 4 dz arrows, check
metal detectors, check
30lbs dry pasta, check
75 packages veggie mix, check
12 #10 cans instant potatoes, check
ammo, check
slingshot, check
crank radio, check
did I mention ammo?

With what we already have, we have only a few things left to get.

Soggy Prepper April 11, 2012 at 6:14 pm

Your last line, “…we have only a few things left to get.”
Hahahaha! I had to laugh.
Your a prepper! I don’t ever really think preppers are ever done.
There is always something else that pops up that you hadn’t thought of and the list just keeps going!

Although your done list for the last 3 wks had me drooling.
On the coffee, did you buy from a special place like in a bag? or did you load up on canned coffee?

my real name? April 12, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Soggy,
LOL yes, the prepping never truly stops. I realized there was a lot I left off the list too. We’ve taken a strange way to look at our preps. Even though we will have power via generator/solar, we have decided to go with “if we lived in 1830 what would we use?” and took it from there.
As far as the coffee, we have in the 3lb cans, 1-5lb bags whole bean (we have an old fashioned hand crank grinder), some plain instant as well as a few cans of “fufu” flavored. We are lucky to have 2 local stores that sell grocieries & sundries 20-80% below retail, just need to watch for pull dates & badly dented cans. Most of their stuff is overstock, mishipment, or liquidation from closing stores.

But they don’t sell ammo : (

my real name? April 11, 2012 at 6:25 pm

that would be seed packet (heirloom of course) not sead.

village idiot April 11, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Congrats on the new prepper, er…son, Luke. Nice rifle, one of my sons has one of them. And get some sleep, you’ll need it, lol.

JP in MT April 11, 2012 at 6:19 pm

ALERT…
I wanted to let the Pack know I was just at WalMart. The Quick Clot (25g) were on cleanance for $5 each. Curad Silver Solution (1 oz) is on clearance for $3. These prices are about 50%.

chloe April 12, 2012 at 9:52 am

hello to one and all…welcome to all the new cubs, prayers for those who are sick and on their way to healing…

Had to attend to some work – and decided to leave my wireless and laptop here as I knew I would be just too tired at night to log on…departed Easter Sunday or Monday – have to check my diary, and too late now to do it as almost midnight Thursday – want to get this posted, as I have just scrolled through all the posts.

While was staying in the house – only took my swag, battery radio, LED string lights, a bag of clothes/toiletries and stuff I needed for work. Had my kitchen backpack – but never used it.

Had all my meals at the local pub – much easier than trying to prepare my own food, when too busy doing other things…anyway, onto preps, as best as I can recall at this late hour…

more TP.
batteries,
assorted hybrid seeds,
tarps,
pillar candles,
lighters
pliers
fishing hooks and swivels

plus other bits and pieces – receipts still in car – and can’t remember all of it.

I decided to drive home at 6.30pm – for the past 2 nights have really been wanting to log in, and thought about going to an internet cafe…but drove home instead…will be driving back Saturday morning early, and will be away for a few days again.

Short post for me tonight – have only received news on radio – no input from internet…that will have to wait for tomorrow. catch up next time…cheers.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Chloe:
I’m sure happy to hear from you! Get some rest. See you soonest. Cheers! Cos

chloe April 14, 2012 at 8:22 am

cos, thanks…most days/weeks can prep to my hearts content – spending hours vac sealing, dehydrating and moving stuff etc…

and other days/weeks have to attend to more mundane things, like making sure my income streams continue. And it takes me away from checking into the blog and see what everyone is up to…

lots of house inspections, and getting stuff ready for tax time – also gearing up for camping and rogaining (like orienteering). If I can will attend the event on the 28/29 of this month.

So, if I don’t check in as often as usual, it’s because I am out and about exercising and getting my fitness up to another level…and also want to attend the up-coming caving events…only time to do caving here is in winter.

Having said all that, I overdid it physically Easter Monday and the following 2 days – still recovering, it is a bummer to get old, the body just needs to be pushed that much harder.

I tried out my camping mattress I bought a few weeks ago…so good to sleep on – am still sleeping on it, as just got back to my work area, and this time I brought my laptop and wireless connection with me.

Found out the chef at the pub where I have my lunch/dinner makes a great beer batter (love battered fish) – and I have had to have a little cat-nap each afternoon, now I realize it may be the beer affecting me, and not the fact that every muscle in my body is still aching from overwork.

Great to hear how everyone is going…some of my posts haven’t made the jump through cyberspace…

Jarhead…hope you got my post re condolences on the passing of your friend/fellow marine/LEO…our toughness is counterbalanced by our sensitivity – so I understand the hurt/loss/pain you are feeling – know that he is in a better place now and watching over his family.

cheers to all…

village idiot April 12, 2012 at 11:06 pm

chloe, what up, girl? Sounds like you had an adventure or two the past few days. Glad you made it home safe.

chloe April 14, 2012 at 8:38 am

VI, thanks…decided to drive back to my retreat Thursday night – very windy and rainy here…so good to sleep in my own bed in my caravan (even though have the 4 b/r house to stay in here).

Fed the wild birds – seeing greater numbers of the birds now, so it is good that I can supplement their feeding needs…I often imagine how hard it would be for me if I had to rely on foraging skills.

Collected my mail and drove back again this morning – it is now 22:30hours Sat – so, am tired.

For the past 4 months I have been making notes about the terrain/routes I usually take…and it is amazing how much more I am actually seeing and paying attention to now…it just takes time to train the mind/eyes to see the terrain as it is, and not just as the view out of my car window…

guys if I don’t post as often, it’s because I’m doing different prep activities for the different season – have to use the cooler months, as we have a dry winter – and very wet summers – so, only have a couple of months to get so much fun and prepping stuff done.

cheers and take care all – prep on.

Mt Woman…read your post – I really need time to respond to it, gave me much to think about…so, in the interim – well done…till next time. cheers.

I haven’t been able to read/catch up on all the articles…will get to them later…best wishes to all who need them, and prayers for the ill and those who are feeling burdened.

Yadkin Girl April 12, 2012 at 12:05 pm

As always, a lot of good prepping going on!

We did little as I fell down the stairs last week and have been unable to walk very well. One positive thing about this, and I am sure you ladies will get this, is my husband has done all the cooking, shopping and cleaning!

Anyway, due to my accident, we didn’t get much accomplished. The lesson we learned was how quickly one of us could be unable to perform when TSHTF.

After reading some of the Pack talk about C4, I asked my husband what it is and he told me it was a type of explosive and asked where I heard about it. I told him and showed him the book that was linked to it (a Ragnar Benson book). It was for sale at $50.00. So, he looked up the book and found it on a website called http://www.scribd.com
I am unsure if you need a Facebook account for this (my husband has one and that is how he found this sight). For a $9 one moth trial, you can print out all sorts of things from this site and we printed this book (because, I guess, it is out of print). I found it a bit too much for us but there are a few things we learned and I know there are some in the Pack who are interested in such things so I thought I would share this.

Also, and especially for BamBam and some other folks who asked me about my wood-fired brick oven, you can print plans to build your own oven from Forno Bravo. You can also print the plans from their site: http://www.fornobravo.com/pompeii_oven/pompeii_oven.html
I read the plans and they are great! They have all the info you need to build an oven and they sell “kits” for them – I do not know how good the kits are. My oven is a bit different than theirs but these plane will walk you through the steps of building one and you can modify them as you see fit.

After you read the plans you will see how it would be a chore to write an article for this site – there is a lot to it. Good luck and I hope many of you look up this site and start to build your own ovens. I love mine!

Yadkin Girl April 12, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Sorry for the mis-spellings. I guess I should review my comments better! I can attribute it to my pain!!!

Bam Bam April 12, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Yadkin Girl,

Don’t worry about the misspelled words–most folks here (myself included) can’t spell very well. LOL. My excuse is that I am dyslexic.

Thanks for posting the link to the brink oven. I am going to look into this.

cosmolined April 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Yadkin Girl:
C4 is not for home brewing. Probably even posting that on the internet gets attention from folks you don’t want to know.(The ones who search 9 year olds at the airport.) It is a military explosive. Freedom of speech is eroding lately. Yes, I am paranoid, I grew up in a land where I could board a plane without taking off my boots. Be careful. God Bless, Cos

Yadkin Girl April 13, 2012 at 11:49 am

Cos,

Thanks for caring and I will heed your advice. Personally, I have no interest in such things. Too dangerous and not my style. I thought I was being “helpful” to those who were talking about this subject on this blog…but, in hindsight, it was stupid.

I do try and be helpful and share knowledge but some things should be kept to oneself.

Thanks again for your comment.

SMB April 12, 2012 at 8:24 pm

I’m very excited for the brick oven directions! Thank you!

Natalia April 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

A few new books today.

Prep School: Prepping For Your Period (not just yours, of course, but any woman you are helping to prep for)
http://www.amazon.com/Prep-School-Prepping-Period-ebook/dp/B007T1RKXI/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_t_2

The Worm Book For Beginners: A Vermiculture Starter or How To Be A Backyard Worm Farmer
http://www.amazon.com/The-Worm-Book-Beginners-ebook/dp/B007EDMTBE/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_4

Herbs For Rock Gardens & Ground Covers
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HW6DYO/ref=docs-os-doi_0

Drought Tolerant Gardening: Plants for Desert and Water-wise Gardens (I haven’t read, don’t know if any are “useful” plants for survival, though)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y1KGBE/ref=docs-os-doi_0

How to Hunt Deer – Whitetail Tactics
http://www.amazon.com/How-Hunt-Deer-Whitetail-ebook/dp/B007988C5Q/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_3

How To Train German Shepherds : 2nd Edition (Revised) : Breed Specific Training Techniques
http://www.amazon.com/How-Train-German-Shepherds-ebook/dp/B007A3RHIS/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_2

FICTION

Eden (Eden Saga)
http://www.amazon.com/Eden-Saga-ebook/dp/B0045OUEKS/ref=pd_ybh_7

A NEW ICE AGE
http://www.amazon.com/A-NEW-ICE-AGE-ebook/dp/B0066U7OQQ/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1

12|21|12 (apparently an excellent shorter story)
http://www.amazon.com/12-21-ebook/dp/B007OQUOY0/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

Merry’s Marauders (Scenic Route to Paradise) (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007QYVV5G/ref=docs-os-doi_0

—————
********Because these WDYDTPTW posts are only once a week and after a while people must stop checking and people who want books might miss them (because most are only there for 24 hrs), I was thinking of starting a blog that posts them. Then people who don’t want to miss them could subscribe to so they get email notification (which will stand out from all the WDYDTPTW notifications so they can check them right away).

I check these books for myself anyway, and as long as I do that I don’t mind also posting ones of this specific interest. I don’t have any vested interest in it, so it’s not for personal benefit. Does this sound like a workable idea?

Suburban Housewife April 12, 2012 at 7:01 pm

OK – I just spent a ton of time hunting for your post and these book links so -Yes – I would appreciate a blog or something. Actually it would be nice if this blog had a way to search too. There is so much great info I find while I am traveling – then it is really hard to find it again when I get home. I try to cut & paste into an email to myself but sometimes I forget or don’t have a chance.

worrisome April 12, 2012 at 9:33 pm

try using control + f and typing in a word or two of what you are looking for…….??

Natalia April 12, 2012 at 11:04 pm

Thank you for the reply, S.H. I’m sorry it was so hard for you to find this, but I’m glad to hear you actually wanted to. :)

So, I opened a new blog today for this purpose, in case it was wanted. Next time I find free books on Amazon that people here might like, I’ll put a post there. People can subscribe by email over there, there’s a place just at top right. M.D. will this be okay? If you have concerns, please hold this post and please let me know (maybe contact me by email?) . Should I still put the links on the comment on your blog so people don’t have to go to mine to get them?

http://preputilityvehicle.blogspot.ca/

Yes, I made that up and thought it was clever. It’s for carrying (vehicle) useful things (utility) for this prep blog. Don’t anyone steal it, okay? ;)

farmmomwannabe April 12, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Thank you so much for finding these books for us! You are SOOO much better than I at this. I, too, would like a blog or some way to find you/your searches.

Natalia April 12, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Thank you, farmmomwannabe :) I just started one, just waiting for M.D.’s approval. If he is okay with it, my post with the link will appear just above under Suburban Housewife’s post. I’d likely also repost it on the new WDYDTPTWs,

I appreciate the feedback. :)

M.D. Creekmore April 13, 2012 at 6:48 am

Natalia,

Sure, post it!

TomFish April 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm

So for a little break in my work day, I wandered to the local SuperSaver grocery store. Kind of a fun way to pass a little time and get a short walk in, as it’s raining outside. Here’s what I got with the prices. It’ll all go into the food cache/rotation in my basement, everything listed has a shelf life (suggested) until 2014/2015.

8 Cans 15 oz Van Kamp Pork ‘n’ Beans @ .45 per can (decent sale)
2 Cans sardines in Oil @1.48 per – regular size can/not a great bargain, but looked really good
3 reg. cans chunk lite tuna in spring water @ .75 cents per
2 small cans vienna sausage @ .48 per
1 can sliced beets @ .72
1 can mixed vegetables @ .75

Also, started my sourdough starter yesterday evening. Nice article on making sourdough bread a day or two on the main page. Also read about oven canning. Finally, considering doing some sun/outdoor food drying, especially beef and veggies….did some reading on that as well. Figured it would be fun and educational while helping me avoid the purchase of a food dehydrator until I can afford a higher quality one.

Peace.
TomFish

TomFish April 13, 2012 at 1:20 pm

Hate to be seemingly going wild with prep items this week…but by telecommuting to work, I save about $30 a week on gas. I figure I can reinvest this money into preps, as it would have been gone to the fuel tank otherwise!
ACE Hardware today, they have a $1 isle…you might want to check out at your local store. Some of the items I saw included spices/salt&pepper combos, catsup, mustard, emergency thread and needles, aluminum foil, utensils, rubbing alcohol and hydrogen pyroxide, antibiotic ointment, SPF 30 sport suntan lotion, fairly cheaply made rubber gloves (still have many uses) can openers (the old fashioned kind with a bottle opener on one end and pointed can opener on the other) and much more. It’s all obviously fairly cheaply made stuff, but can round out a B.O.B or overnight kit nicely. I picked up a handful of this type of stuff, along with a nice little waterproof, compact LED flashlight that also features a laser pointer for under $5.

At Wally World, I added (for $1 or less each) 3 plastic rain ponchos, lip balm with sunscreen, bottle of aspirin and a little travel first aid kit for the car. Soon, both of our cars will ALWAYS be carrying a good, small LED flashlight, 3 rain panchos, emergency blanket, first aid kit and needle and thread, along with jerky, a can each of pork and beans and fruit cocktail and water.

Also at Wally’s, picked up tampons for the wife (aren’t I nice?) an extra emergency blanket, batteries, 1 gallon of water ($1) small bag of jerky and M&M’s for the bugout bag, can of fruit cocktail, unscented baby wipes and Clorox wipes.

Better be done for this week! BUT, my next purchase will be a camping stove…probably a Coleman. Going to garage sales to hopefully find one, but if not, good old Wally’s has them for around $35….two burner fold ups.

Another future/soon purchase will be a dual fuel lantern. I like that you can burn either camping fuel or unleaded gasoline in them!! I also like the lanterns that have a top attachment for a burner for cooking. Don’t want to get caught all stocked up on rice and beans and no way to boil them.

Peace,
TomFish

Pineslayer April 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Hey TomFish, I like your energy, full steam ahead! That stove purchase going to be Propane or Liquid Fuel? I have both and love the propane more, always looking for them at sales. 1 20lb tank last a long time.

Any chances you are from the Indiana area?

TomFish April 14, 2012 at 1:04 am

Hey Bro…thanks for saying Hi. I saw a dual fuel stove or lantern from Coleman (can’t remember which) that would burn what Coleman sells as “Camping Fuel”, or would also burn unleaded gas. I know I’ll always have gas available, so it’s just a nice bonus. I do also have a Cabela’s smoker/Barbeque grill that will run on propane, charcoal and wood. I’m bigg into versatility!

Thanks for the shout out,

Peace,
TomFish

TomFish April 14, 2012 at 1:38 am

PS. I’m in Nebraska, Bro.

Backwoods April 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Hunker-Down April 13, 2012 at 11:04 am

Backwoods,

Good to know. Thanks.

SMB April 12, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Should I have getting a ham radio as a priority and if I should where is the best place to get one? I saw online that you have to have a license to have one, all the names are published with the addresses, that makes me nervous.

TomFish April 13, 2012 at 1:24 pm

In my opinion, No. Don’t much like to talk to people now in a “normal” world. :o) I think a small radio that gets the emergency weather service would be a good idea, along with plenty of batteries, or hand-crank style. We got a hand held portable AM/FM/Weather battery op radio at a garage sale for almost nothing.

Peace,
TomFish

Pineslayer April 12, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Another reason Amazon could end up ruling the world…

http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Marlin-Semi-Auto-Fiberforce-Stock/dp/B000HOOTO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334283755&sr=8-1

For this price you can afford to play around. Saw a guy on some site who turned this into a “go” gun. Had paracord, knife, and other goodies attached to the stock. Does anyone have hands on time with this stock?

Luke April 13, 2012 at 7:02 am

hey thanks for the co grats everyone
my son just woke me up, he has alot of dry skin on his face that i think is starting to turn into a rash (interior Alaska has very dry climate). Anyone know something good for this? The hospital said to use aquaphor but it says its harmful if injested. Do yall know of anything i can use for this? I was thinking possibly burts bees products. Thanks yall. I truly appreciate it!

Kelekona April 13, 2012 at 11:11 am

Aquafor makes a lip treatment, is that harmful to ingest as well?

I found one article that said that udder cream is based on mineral oil. Mineral oil is usually next to constipation treatments, so swallowing a very slight amount shouldn’t hurt him. Another udder cream says that it’s got aloe vera, vitamin E, and lanolin in it, so maybe pop a vitamin E oil capsule on his face. You might even be able to find human-purpose udder cream, but that might be perfumed, and I found no statement on whether or not you can drink the cow’s milk after they have been treated.

I think many sunscreens are also lotion-based, but I’m not sure about the toxicity. There may be formulas for babies.

charliebuck April 13, 2012 at 11:20 am

Luke,not sure for newborns,but pure Aloe Vera juice may safely heal the rash?I always keep a plant around and it works well for me.

worrisome April 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

How about A&D Ointment?

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:42 pm

I always just rubbed my babies down with baby oil or baby lotion after their baths. They never had any ill-effects from it.

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:43 am

Ok guys, I have a question for you. I’m not quite sure how I found it, but I came across a site called Activist Post and they have some pretty wild stuff on there like ” Chinese Troops Reportedly Amassing Near US-Mexico Border”. What I’d like your opinion on is whether or not (if you have even heard of it) you think this info is spot on or is this just one of those scare tactic, fact twisting, mostly bull sites. MD, I’d love your input here as well. I subscribed to their updates, but not sure I want to continue to receive them. If their info is reliable, sure….but we have enough to worry about with out totally off the wall stuff. I’m not the smartest cookie in the bag when it comes to deciding fact from fiction sometimes…and maybe that makes me look stupid, lol, but oh well….it is what it is. Looking forward to your replies.

M.D. Creekmore April 13, 2012 at 10:14 am

BamaBecca,

I’ve heard the statements being made by “anonymous sources” claiming that Chinese troops are amassing forces near US-Mexico Border. I call B.S. on this one. If you’ve noticed all of this stuff seems to come from “anonymous sources” unverified “anonymous sources” are a favorite tactic of Alex Jones and others. Most of this stuff is total B.S. with some having a small bit of truth with that has been stretched and twisted into a story for publicity and ratings…

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 10:33 am

Thanks MD, that’s what I was looking for ;)

Hawkeye April 13, 2012 at 10:45 am

I “worry” about this about as much as the Mayan Calander thingy!

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:38 pm

I wasn’t really worried, just wanted to know if anyone else knoew anything about the site…and if it was mostly just hype or not. Thanks for the replies.

BamaBecca April 13, 2012 at 9:46 pm

*knew! sorry 4 the typo

Natalia April 13, 2012 at 3:35 pm

Not so many books today

Raised Bed Gardens – A Natural Solution For Proper Plant Growth
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K7XIUA/ref=docs-os-doi_0

Easy Camping Recipes from The Outdoor Princess: 33 Simple Camping Recipes
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007AWYV8S/ref=docs-os-doi_0

FICTION

The Mountain and the Flood
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HD64FQ/ref=docs-os-doi_0

Breakers (disaster, survival, then gets into alien stuff)
http://www.amazon.com/Breakers-ebook/dp/B007712HM4/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1334342415&sr=1-1

As ever, I haven’t read these and can’t review their value.

I’m also putting these on the new blog. If you sometimes miss these, you might want to subscribe to it so you’ll get notifications.

Bam Bam April 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm

M.D.,

I couldn’t find the original comment when you asked if the terms “race motivated” or “hate crime” were used in the article. I had to go back and check and they were not. The journalist/editors danced around the issue of race. Here’s the article. It is shocking.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120412/ARTICLES/120419865/1183?p=1&tc=pg

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