What did you do to prep this week?

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Okay, let me see what did I do to prep this week?

What about you… What did you do to prep this week?

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  1. Bam Bam says:

    I have two significant accomplishments to report this week. First, my dh bought me a heavy duty metal shelving unit and we organized all my home canned goods. It is great to have everything organized and labeled. Now I can see what I have and what I need to can at a moment’s glance.

    I also purchased items needed for soap making. I ordered a digital scale from amazon and picked up a stick blender at Walmart. I also ordered a number of oils necessary for soap making: coconut oil, caster oil, palm oil, jojoba oil, etc. I have been researching the process and reading books from the library. I liked one of the books so much I ordered it from amazon—found it for 29 cents. It’s called Homemade Soap: Recipes for Crafting Soap at Home by Mike Hulbert. I like the book because all the recipes make 40 ounces of soap. I was then able to calculate the interior dimensions necessary for my soap molds: (2.5 x 3.5 x 10) and then I just add the thickness of the wood.

    In my research I learned that back in the day soap was most often made of tallow, rendered beef fat. But lard also makes suitable oil for soap making. If I can make decent soap from lard (which is incredibly cheap), I will save a lot of money. I have read that although lard makes quality soap, it is seldom used in the soap making process because of the emotional reactions people have to the word “lard”. This seems to me to be an unreasoned prejudice inculcated in the masses by marketing executives who represent the interests of manufacturers of artificial oils. I am going to make a batch of soap from lard to see for myself.

    I also picked up some essential oils to use in my soaps. Good night, these are expensive. So far I have picked up lavender and ylang-ylang. I also want to make a recipe that calls for peppermint and tea tree oil. I am excited to make these exotic soaps. If they turn out well I will give them out to family members as Christmas gifts. I will give the lard soaps to people I don’t like that much. LOL That’s terrible. I do want to compare soaps made from expensive oils with soaps made from lard and cheap vegetable oils. I am betting there is very little difference in quality.

    I bartered with a friend to have my soap molds built. (I don’t have a chop saw.) He is going to bring over a five gallon bucket with a lid and I am going to show him how to make laundry soap. In exchange, he is going to build me a couple of soap molds with tops. One website wanted $30 for a 3.5 x 2.5 x 8 inch wooden box (without a lid). I had my dh call him and invite him over for a bribery dinner. LOL

    I canned a dozen jars of tomato relish. It’s sort of like adult catsup. I like it okay but I need to tweak the recipe. It needs more flavor.

    I got notice from Shelf Reliance that the backordered items I purchased a couple of months ago have shipped. So I will be adding two more cans of freeze-dried cheese and a case of freeze-dried meat to the larder.

    I hit some great sales at Publix this week. I spent $140 and saved $101. Whoot! Whoot! I picked up six large jars Ragu, four boxes pop corn, eight packages of lunch meat, all BOGO. And I bought four hams (almost half price) for the freezer. My dh slices the fat part of the ham into ham steaks and dices the end pieces for soups and pizza. I also picked up six large cans of coffee, $4 off. I have calculated that I need 26 cans of coffee for a one -year supply. If I can pick up another six cans, I’ll be set.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Bam Bam, food job on the soap and barter practice. As for the tomato relish have you added onion powder and garlic powder? I’ve made my own ketchup and it always needed a bit more onion and garlic powder.

    • village idiot says:

      Bam Bam! 26 cans of coffee? You’re a coffee-drinking fool, or you like your coffee Louisiana-style! I’m a coffee addict, sad to say. So I store a lot, but nothing like 26 cans.

      Anyway, great week prepping, and I’m excited about your progress on the soap-making. I know you will work all the bugs out of the process. I’ve been buying the cans of Hunt’s Pasta sauce at Wal-Marts for .99 the past few weeks, what are you paying for the Ragu? And is it any better? I usually have to add some Italian seasoning to the Hunts to get it up to speed.

      • Bam Bam says:


        The Ragu was $3.68 for two 45 oz. jars. (It was BOGO.) I think the Ragu is much better than Hunts. I like to buy half a dozen jars and make up six pans of lasagna and then put them in the freezer.

        We tracked out coffee use and we go through one large can every two weeks. And that’s only make half a pot a day.

        • charlie (NC) says:

          This is just for information for those who might be interested.
          It’s not intended as comentary on anyone’s coffee preference.

          I recently had a long phone conversation with a lady who
          had just sold her coffee roasting business due to her husbands death. We talked a bit about coffee for long term storage and she suggested that “green” (unraosted) beans would keep better and hold their quality longer than roasted, ready to use beans or ground coffee. She told me some things I intend to try but won’t go into here but I’ll pass this along. For those serious about their coffee check out this web site. http://www.sweetmarias.com/instructions.php
          You can learn all you ever wanted to know about coffee types and methods of roasting just by reading the information they provide for free. They are a great source for coffee supplies and for small to medium quantities of coffee beans.

          • Ms ACW says:

            I have abt 16 large containers of coffee that I keep rotated. When I first started storing coffee I began by marking the purchase date on the lid. What we are using now was bought in Feb 2011 and have not noticed any change in the taste. I store it in the chest freezer and that has worked well for us.

            • Bam Bam says:

              Am I the only one who goes through a large container of coffee every two weeks? That’s only a half pot (six cups) a day.

            • alikaat says:

              Hi BamBam-
              My household goes through about a pound in 5 days. We drink a lot of the stuff. I’m in the process of buying as many bricks as I can. We are heavily reliant on it, and going without would be absolutely horrible. I just rotate it forward, putting all my new bricks in the back of the shelf and using the front pack when I need one. A 1 lb brick will make one 12 c pot of coffee and fill one small can. It seems to be getting harder to find coffee packed in bricks lately. The cans just take up too much space, and I don’t buy them for preps. Right now, according to my spreadsheet, I have 18 bricks in storage. That is not nearly enough.

            • village idiot says:

              Bam Bam, a 2-lb. can of coffee lasts me for over a month, and I make at least 1, sometimes another 1/2 pot a day. Your coffee must be as thick as Mississippi mud. lol

            • Diver Gal (s. Fla) says:

              I go through a pound of coffee beans in about a 7-10 days. Right now I have around 30 lbs stored of pre-roasted beans and I recently split a 20lb bag of green beans with a pal of mine that we are going to try and roast on our own. But I drink at least a pot a day…. and that doesnt include the cups I make with the Kuerig.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Diver Gal, that is probably close to what I consume as well. I have a Cuisinart grind and brew and a Keurig.

              Save your Keurig containers. Pull the foil top off and wash them out. The plastic cups make nice containers for starting seeds. You can cut the basket out or leave it in.

            • Repair Mama says:

              I found wake up blend maxwell house 11.5oz yesterday at save a lot for $1.49 a can. the cans are cardboard, so o will repackage and stick in freezet . i drink massive amounts of instant, but will use this when i can. great price . i am going back today to get some more!

    • Harold says:

      For whatever it is worth, as a child growing up in the 40’s my mother made all of our soap laundry and bath from lard and lye. The only thing she done different between the two was after saponification had taken place and while it was still semi liquid, she would add flower essence that she made from the blossoms of various flowers to the bath soap. Some of the essence she made from the apple, cherry and peach blossom petals we would gather after they had fallen from the trees when the bud started to form fruit. Believe me it took a large number of baskets of flower petals to make the essence that she used. I don’t recall her ever using tallow for soap making as we used it after it had been rendered again and filtered to preserve harness for the horses and to treat our work boots with since it did not stink like lard. Lard no longer smells after it is rerendered and filtered again and then made into soap.

    • Bam Bam, lard is great for making soap. I get mine in 50-lb blocks at Restaurant Depot.

      I make soap 10 lbs. at a time, I made a wooden box that is 12 inches by 12 inches by about 3 inches high, one of the 3 inch high sides has hinges, and I line it with a trash bag each time and pour the whole mess in, which goes to about 2 inches high. I use the cold trace method with a stick blender in a giant stainless steel bowl. The mold works, but the edges need trimming to make squarish bars. But then I have a lot of trimmings that I could rebatch. The bars are like 2 by 4 inches or something like that, and are supposed to weigh 5 oz.

      As long as I cut the soap within a couple days of pouring it, it’s pretty soft. I use a box saw, and I just press down with it. First I have to measure the block with a tape measure, and lightly score it with the saw so I know where to cut.

      I’m sure that individual molds would make prettier soap, but you also wouldn’t get that heat reaction as much that makes the glycerine.

      If you add a little coconut oil to the mix, you’ll get good suds. But lard even by itself is good. It makes a nice hard bar of soap. These hippies who have to have all vegetable oil bars will just have to pay more. Maybe market the lard soap as “old fashioned lye soap” and put a picture of a Grandma on it.

      • Bam Bam says:

        Penny Pincher,

        I like the idea of calling it “old fashioned lye soap”. That’s the truth. There are way too many hippie folks here in Gainesville.

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      Most of my soap is goats milk with lard and another batch with crisco. Awesome soap! Absolutely nothing wrong with lard at all, it makes a great hard soap that doesn’t melt so fast in the shower. Castille is great too, be sure to make a couple batches of that. With the stick blender it doesn’t take long at all.

      I also wanted to use my older canola oil and make a canola oil batch o’ soap. Canola oil has a kinda weird smell, not bad, but even with the scents and essential oils making each batch unique I can tell the canola oil one with my eyes closed.

      I only use coconut oil, canola or olive oil and lard or crisco. Online soap calculators will help come up with measurements of everything for your own concoctions.

      On thing I may mention. I will never put “stuff” in my soap. I did one batch with lavender and one with oatmeal. Then you have to wash that stuff off you as it comes out of the soap and onto you! No more crap in my soap, just nice cleanness.

      • Bam Bam says:

        Soggy Prepper,

        Thanks for the tip. I was contemplating putting lavender and oatmeal in one of the batches. I think I will pass on that now.

        • You could make lavender tea and use that for your water. I’ve made oatmeal soap. The secret is to not use very much oatmeal, and to use the instant kind. You might even want to grind it up finer in a coffee grinder.

          Speaking of coffee, you can also add used coffee grounds and mint essential oil to soap. Some essential oils will make your batch seize but not mint. Don’t use a lot of coffee grounds, though. Just a dash, or the soap will melt, leaving too many grounds on the surface to get any soap. This soap is good for scrubbing up after gardening.

      • Adding botanicals (oats, lavender, pine needles) to the soap is great and I grind it into a rough powder. It defoliates your dried skin. Don’t add too much and it will blend well with the soap as it ages. It also adds a good earthy color! Soaps will be wonderful trade items as it will aid in times of pandemics or simply keep your body and home clean and healthy.

    • alikaat says:

      Hi BamBam-
      Reading about your soap making endeavors has given me the bug to try it out.. now that the semester is over (my grades are due in tomorrow, and I’ve already submitted them) and summer classes don’t start for two weeks, this might be a good time to try something new! I think I have a can of crisco in the baking section of the pantry that is about to go ‘old’… may make a good fat source for a soap-making experiment. What to add to it that I might have around….
      Thank you for the incentive! I’ve never made soap before. Sounds like good, clean, fun! (eye roll… bad pun, I know)

      • Bam Bam says:


        I haven’t made soap yet but from my reading the two things you will need are a (digital) scale and a stick blender. A scale is necessary because the ingredients are measured by weight and not volume. A stick blender, although not essential, helps the soap trace much quicker. Be careful handling the lye. Wear eye protection and gloves. Put newspaper down on your counters.

        • alikaat says:

          Hi BamBam-
          Sounds like I might be able to just borrow a few things from my lab over the weekend. I have a drill with a paint stirrer for mixing up protein mixtures when performing large-scale protein preps. Should work well for a stick blender, and safety equipment is freely available to anyone walking into my building by OSHA reg. Your Bio or Chem department might be a good source for this stuff.

        • Shades of Green says:

          Bam Bam,

          I have made lots of soap using veg. shortening & lye. The most important thing is to mix them when their temps are the same. The lye actually heats up fast but you must cool your oil fast enough also. You mix them when they are the same temp ( as noted in your recipe ) . Most soap books have basic recipes as a starter. I had to let mine rest for 6 to 8 weeks to deactivate the lye. Once it had set them you re-milled and that is when you add all your scents and specialty oils. Good luck. It is alot of fun.

          • Bam Bam says:

            Shades of Green,

            If one is not going to add extras like oatmeal or lavender buds, what is the benefit of remilling the the soap? I have read that remilling a basic batch of soap makes for a harder, longer lasting bar of soap. But is it worth it?

            • Shades of Green says:

              Bam Bam,

              I have found that it isn’t as harsh on my skin if I remill it. I noticed that you said something about making yours through a “cold process” . Did i read that right and how do you do that using lye? None of my books have that. It sounds interesting.

            • Bam Bam says:

              Shades of Green,

              The book I am using list three times of soap making: cold-process, hand milling and melt-and-pour. It sounds like have been doing the hand milling, where make an original batch of soap, wait for the lye to set and then grate it and remelt it. I have no idea why they call the original soap making from lye a “cold process” method, as the lye heats up the water.

            • Lee (tx) says:

              Bam Bam,,, what book are you using, title please.

            • Bam Bam says:


              I am using Handmade Soap: Recipes for Crafting Soap at Home by Mike Hulbert. I checked it out from the library and liked it so much I ordered it from Amazon.com–you can pick up a copy for 29 cents.

              I wrote up an article on soap making and will submit it to M.D. once I have the photos done.

    • Don’t forget our muslim friends when you are gifting your lard based soap. I can think of one in particular. It got the naughty words out of my mouth, maybe it can get the lies out of his. Jeff

      • axelsteve says:

        Jeff, Do pigs make lard though? By the way Jeff one of my brothers is a Jeff. I call him A>J. short for axel Jeff.

        • Soggy Prepper says:

          yes. lard is pig fat. Awesome for deep frying french fries in and flieshkethla. A kind of German/Russian meat pocket, like a parrogy (spelled wrong). You can burn it with a wick in a jar like an olive oil candle too.
          Makes me hungry for bacon…

        • Bam Bam says:


          Yes, rendered beef fat, especially from around the kidneys) is called tallow. Rendered fat from pigs is called lard. I had to look this up.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            when I was a child on the farm almost every family had a yearly “hog killing” in the late fall. The hogs were slaughtered, cut up, salt and sugar cured and smoked.
            Sausage was made and so was lard. One of the more important aspects of hog killing was to render enough lard to get through the year. You could buy light weight tin containers about the size and shape of the 5 gal. buckets we use for our preps except the walls were verticle, not sloped at all.. They were called lard stands. They had a tight fitting but not sealed tin lid that slid down over the top. When you heat the fat to render out the lard there is some bits of meat and fat that won’t render that float to the top. That is skimmed off and put into a press. Actualy it’s the same press used to stuff sausage. The press is used to push all of the liquid lard from the hot pieces of meat/fat. What is left is in a kind of cake that we called “craklins”. They were eaten in various ways including mixing bits of it into cornbread.
            Nothing was wasted. The sausage was packed into the hogs intestines which had to be cleaned. In fact the first job I ever had at hog killing when I was about 9 or 10 was to empty the “chitlins” which is what the intestines were called. Daddy told me to take a shovel and dig a big hole then take the bucket of chitlins over to the hole. He showed me how to pull the chitlins through my hand and squeeze the “stuff” out of them into the hole. Then the ladies took the chitlins, turned them inside out and scrubbed them with very hot water before they were used to pack sausage. The ones that were too large to use or were not used for other reasons were cut up and cooked as …. you guessed it… chitlins. Given my introduction to “chitlins” I have never eaten any but I know folks that do to this day.

          • Bam Bam says:

            It’s too bad the Wolf Pack doesn’t all live in the same town. There is so much knowledge here we could rebuild society for sure.

          • village idiot says:

            Yep, charlie, I’ve eaten plenty of cracklin corn bread, and I’ve seen my grandpa kill hogs as well. It was quite an undertaking, and as a little boy I well remember the big black boiling pots they used. The first big cold snap in November meant it was time for hog killing. And no, nothing was wasted, from frying chitlins(a smell I still can’t forget) to making hoghead cheese. My grandma kept a pan of head cheese in the ice box just about all the time. She loved it. Along with hog killing always came one of those big, white coconut cakes. That took the sting out of smelling those chitlins cooking.

          • axelsteve says:

            Thank you Bam Bam. I sure learn allot in this place.

      • Soggy Prepper says:


    • wow, Bam Bam, you had a great week…cheers.

      • Bam Bam, copha (coconut oil) is great for soap making – cheap and in same section as lard in supermarket…cheers.

  2. d2 Prep says:

    Greetings to all! Hope everyone had a great week and became better prepared. M.D., I like the new format of the daily miscellany. Very informative and helpful.
    I did not get everything done I would have liked too this week but did make some strides:
    • Went to the retreat and flushed out the well water that smelled like sulfur & gas. Thanks to all for the input on this issue last week. Hooked the water up to the 5th wheel (temporary lodgings) and now have running water. Fixed a few more small things.
    • The gas company hooked up the propane tank they dropped off last week so I now have water and gas, just waiting to decide on a solar panel kit and deep cell batteries.
    • Also picked up a fire extinguisher for the 5th wheel on the property.
    • Purchased a 5 gallon solar shower and 4 freeze dried meals with a gift certificate, so it cost me nothing.
    • Acted like a 10 year and shot coke cans at the retreat with my dd’s daisy bb gun, man it was still fun!
    • Dropped off some more supplies such as a 50 lb bag of lime for my makeshift septic, bbq utensils and some tools.
    • A friend of mine at a party offered to bring some of his company’s land moving equipment to clear brush and other debris from areas of the land. Waiting on a date to do it.
    • Starting reading Backyard Homesteading book again and reread M.D.’s chapter on solar power for the 5th wheel at the retreat. I am now researching solar panel kits with at least 80 watts. If anyone has a preferred brand I would love to hear about it.
    • Ordered solar motion lights and security cameras for the retreat as well as a solar “11 in 1” battery charger.
    • Copied M.D,’s buy from last week and ordered Colony season 1 & 2 on dvd since It appears to not be on TV anymore.
    • Sealed up the 50 lbs. of cracked corn in 2 x 25 lb. Mylar bags with oxidizers and buckets. Much appreciated the advice on the alfatoxins from the Pack.
    • Flew into LAX and saw the Occuturds of the Bowel Movement blocking Century boulevard. I suppose it wasn’t as bad a Seattle though.
    • Met up with a fellow WolfPack member in the Northern province of the PRK for lunch and discussed our philosophies and exchanged ideas. Good to know we have each other’s back.
    • Attending an all day CERT class today, the first of 2 before I get certified.
    • Wrote a review on Amazon for M.D.’s first book Dirt Cheap Survival retreat. Will get to the other review this week…promise.

    That’s it for the week. Will be traveling most of the week again. Heads up for anyone in the area, there is a big gun show the weekend of the 18th and 19th in Reno, NV. I am hoping to make it up there on the 18th.

    Have a great week everyone!

    • cosmolined says:

      Just a thought on the fire extinguisher. I had a man stop in front of my house with an engine fire. He pounded on my door and told me the problem. I handed him the phone and ran to the kitchen for the “fire extinguisher”, (The thermos sized one). I ran out and opened the hood, it only squirted for maybe 5 seconds….. I ran to the garage to get the one from there, he had closed the hood so with flames coming out the vents by the windshield, I opened the hood again, (crouching to not lose my favorite face), and once again next to nothing…. A couple of minutes later, the Fire Engine showed up and put out the car fire. The next day, much to my surprise, the guy came by with two of the 5 pounders for me! Be sure to check the pressure indicator often. One of mine lost pressure…. God Bless! Cos

      • d2 Prep says:

        Cos, thank you. I actually heard the same today in my CERT class. The instructors only recommend the 5lb metal handle versions. The little ones you spoke of (which is what I have) allegedly have reliability issues too. They last about 15 seconds on full handle squeeze. I will upgrade ASAP!

        • charliebuck says:

          A guy I know works for a company that recharges fire extinguishers and he told me to turn them upside down and smack themon the bottom with a rubber mallet every 6 months or so.Said the chemicals settle to the bottom and this helps to break them up.

          • cosmolined says:

            Thank You charliebuck. I’ll try it. Cos

          • d2 Prep says:

            Charliebuck, apparently it is the older models where that is still required. The new models are good to go without doing it. At least that is what was told to me.

    • The Colony is available on netflix if you have that option.

      • d2 Prep says:

        Thanks Angela. I do have Netflix, So I will sell the dvd’s back to Amazon.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      D2, I keep a fire extinguisher in each room and closet since you never know where a fire will start and it’s also a great defensive tool.

      Glad you found your inner child shooting the Daisy BB gun. I enjoy my Daisy Powerline 856 as much as my RWS.

      The whole Occupy crap is out of control. I saw they arrested one of the guys that hit a female officer in the back of her head and he ran. His friends turned him in. A group of 3 hit the emergency break on a subway train causing some patrons to fall and get hurt. Waiting to see what the charges are since it’s “transportation” I’m in hopes of the punishment increased.

    • Hunker-Down says:

      d2 Prep,

      “Occuturds of the Bowel Movement.” Gee, wish I had thought of that.

      Very descriptive, it communicates a visual of their mental attitude, an odorous seepage uncontrollably escaping through their mouth, animating their carcass.

    • village idiot says:

      Nice week prepping, d2. And making allies is a great prep, maybe the best prep of all. Having someone in the foxhole with you is a great feeling to have. Take care next week.

    • Ohio Surveyor says:

      For solar panels I like these http://www.harborfreight.com/45-watt-solar-panel-kit-90599.html and you can get a coupon so the price is only $149. Then you can get this http://www.harborfreight.com/8-panel-universal-solar-connector-68689.html to hook up to 8 x 45 watt panels. As far as batteries mabey look at these, love the price for a 105ah battery. http://www.tractorsupply.com/stowaway-battery-st27dc180-4001105

      • d2 Prep says:

        Ohio, many thanks. I am clicking on your links now.

      • d2 Prep says:

        Ohio, I noticed these panels are amorphous. In reading M.D.’s chapter on solar in Dirt Cheap, he does not recommend them. I am only scratching the surface on my solar knowledge but would like yours and others opinions if they are sufficient.

        • Suburban Housewife says:

          I’d like to hear(see) that opinion too. DH & I have been trying to sort the solar issue out too. We live in SoCal so we get plenty of sunshine – just SO unfamiliar with everything about solar, batteries, power, etc – it’s hard to make decisions. Enormous learning curve! Have been looking at exactly what you have listed here – just haven taken the plunge. Probably because we are afraid we’d get it home and not know how to put it all together, and then where to put it, and if we figured out how to put it together we wouldn’t know what to use it for – LOL. But we do agree that we need it – Crazy much?

          • JP in MT says:

            We had solar heat for the water heater in Hawaii. The last year we were there it broke and the owner decided not to fix it. Our electric bill went up $40/mo in 1994/5!

            • charlie (NC) says:

              JP where did you live in Hawaii? Just curious. I’ve spent a bit of time there.

            • JP in MT says:

              charlie (NC):
              We were in Mililani Town (near Wheeler AB, in the middle of Oahu).

            • charliebuck says:

              J.P,I lived in Kona on the Big Island for 13 years.I worked for a guy that sold a ton of solar panels and accessories.Solar was a great thing to have over there!

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Thanks JP, I was just curious. I like all of Hawaii but have to confess that Oahu is not my favorite place, particularly the areas close to Honolulu proper. Too much like being in a big city. I spent a week at Ewa Beach with some friends who were in the Navy in the mid 80’s. That was my first trip to HI. I guess you were up there kind of in the pineapple fields?

          • d2 Prep says:

            Suburban Housewife, I found the chapter in M.D.’s book Dirt Cheap Survival Retreat on solar very helpful. I am confident when I make the plunge I will be able to hook it up…albeit I will probably screw up a few times before I get it right..LOL. Good luck in your search and let’s keep each other posted on our findings.

        • Ohio Surveyor says:

          I have found the amorphous panels to be cheeper and more rugged as compaired to the Polycrystalline or Monocrystalline panels. I do not have the ability to permanently mount the solar panels anywhere yet. I also like the cheeper water filled batteries as compaired to the gel filled ones. If i had the place to mount, and the money to buy top end i woud buy Monocrystalline panels and permanently mount them, then use gel cell batteries. http://www.ebay.com/itm/75W-High-Efficiency-MonoCrystalline-Glass-SOLAR-PANEL-/110331445645?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19b044418d and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trojan-31Gel-12-volt-Deep-Cycle-Solar-System-Battery-FreeShip-/170823228955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c5db9e1b finally before making the solar plunge find out how much money you are going to commit to this and then contact a local electrician and get his opinion. Or do what i did, i called a number of companies that sold solar panels on e-bay and asked alot of questions. They were very helpfull and i learned alot.

          • Ohio Surveyor says:

            oops forgot to also tell you to go to youtube and check out the videos on solar panels …very good stuff

            • d2 Prep says:

              Ohio, thank you. This is very helpful. I also ordered a book last week on understanding solar. I hope it helps me understand it better. I will click your links and hit up youtube as you suggested.


    • d2 prep…you have got to be the star wolf cub…I know we are all on our own prep journey – however..you are really striding through each week…so proud of you…cheers.

      • d2 Prep says:

        Chloe, thanks for the encouragement. I love the moniker Wolf Cub! It is people like you that I learn from each week on this site. I am having so much fun learning new skills and brushing up on rusty ones. If for no other reason, I have become more self sufficient in a number of areas that many people on here have done their whole lives. Thanks for always sharing your ideas and wisdom! God bless.


        • D2…I consider myself a prepping pupil still – and maybe so do others…and yet, by sharing what we each know…we all benefit.

          I have learned so much from all the posters…and no doubt will keep learning…

          am off to the big smoke either this evening or tomorrow – so catch up next time…cheers.

  3. Couldn’t have been my entry that was deleted. I just checked and have 343 words!

    For prepping, I got a new rifle this week. Well, it was my first rifle! And I got it for free out of nowhere for doing something nice for someone over a year ago. A beautiful 1912 Lee Enfield MIII. I’d like to share the story! http://rednecksurvivalist.com/index.php/entry/gun-karma-i-got-my-first-rifle-free

    Nice eh?

    • Trapper from manitoba says:

      IMHO you are umpteen times ahead with the Enfield than the Mosin-Nagant. In Canada they, to this very day, are still issued to the Canadian Rangers, of which I formerly belonged to. I’ve owned two Nagant’s ( I bought a second one after thinking I just wAs unlucky with the first) and ended up trading them both for an M1 Garand. Put those 3 on a table together and I would grab the Enfield every time. I still own the Garand and 2 Enfields and I carry an Enfield almost every weekend. Damn good rifle.

    • Prudent says:

      Mikey………. Joe Lowe 1-972-986-8158 for extra Enfield Magazines. Can’t have enough of em.

      • Harold says:

        There is still a 1914 P Eddystone Enfield in 30.06 still kicking around the family somewhere. An Uncle brought it home from WWI. I have ran into several people who insist that the American army was only equipped with Springfields but my Uncle was in the Quartermaster Corps as a veterinary assistant and was issued the Enfield at Camp Lee Virginia prior to shipping over and bought it from the US under the civilian marksmanship program that was in existence in 1918 when he got released. Cost him all of six bucks he said. I believe one of my younger brothers is housing it along with several other family heirlooms.

        • Hawkeye says:

          In fact, the most prominent US rifle of WWI was the US Rifle, Cal. 30, Model of 1917 (The US M1917 “Enfield”). So named because of it’s genisis in the British Pattern 1914 “Enfield” rifle.

          Movies, such as “Sgt. York” and others and the fact that Springfield is a “US” arsenal was the basis for the mis-understanding that Springfield’s M1903 were the US standard in WWI.

          The US had been making the Pattern 1914 Enfield for the British, due to the British were already in the war and had limited manufacturing capacity at the time. The P14 was of course, the .303 caliber. When the US entered the war, tooling for the Springfield M1903 was either non existent or in short supply. It was, however, a simple matter for the US company, making the P14, to convert it to standard US .30 caliber for US troops. Thus the Pattern 14 became the US M1917 rifle of WWI.

          Eventually Eddystone, Remington and Winchester all made the M1917 and it became the US standard in that war.

          And you are right, the British “Enfield” series starting with the Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) right up through the No. 4 Mk I of WWII are great rifles, perhaps the best bolt action rifles of that war; very rugged, very accurate and very fast, with a ten round magazine. The No. 5, “Jungle Carbine”, though sexy, was a little “iffy” due to a wandering zero, however.

          • cosmolined says:

            Great job on the info!!! I also read a bit of weapons history. It was great to see someone else not only reads the history of weapons, but can eloquently explain it! God Bless, Cos

    • JedRebel says:

      You have a survival blog and are just now getting your first rifle? You must be a foriegner cuz every American knows you can’t call yourself a redneck if you got a computer before you got u a gun.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Jed lol you are so right. Can’t hit a spittoon at 20 paces with an email lol

      • Maybe he’s a handgun enthusiast? Or had a shotgun before?

        • He’s a Canadian and it is very hard to get the Privilege (Gov words) to purchase any firearms here!

          • Ah. My condolences, but congrats on the rifle. 🙂

          • JedRebel says:

            Oh I didn’t know……..forget my comment then.

            • It’s ok. I forgive you. But also to be fair, I started the process to get my long gun license about 6 weeks before I started the blog. The blog is an outlet for me as I learn, and I hope that people can learn from my learning, if you get the picture.

              Also, I just picked up a shotgun today. Remmington 870 Express Magnum. LOVE IT!!

            • village idiot says:

              10-4 on that Rem. 870 shotgun, Mike. I have one myself, added an 18 in. barrel and extended magazine, and now have a tactical shotgun to go along with the hunting shotgun with the 26 in. barrel. Congrats on the blog and outlook from Canada, although we are lucky to have a community of great Canadian commenters here on MD’s blog.

      • Even though computers are how I make my living, I have to agree, although in my case it was easier, since I had my first rifle about 10 years before home computers were even available.
        BTW, that Lee Enfield in .303 was a real man stopper that helped the Brits to build an empire.

  4. axelsteve says:

    Bought 100 rounds of 45 acp. I gave 50 rnds to my son and I am going to stash the other 50.I told him to pick up the empty brass,he wants to reload for it.I am proud of him.His pistol has a pretty nice trigger and the sights are better then I expected for a gi gun.

  5. BamBam, you are inspirational. I feel like a newbie half the time, but in a good way. It’s just really nice to see the Wolf Pack’s comments and be able to say, “Hey Look, other folks do this too!”.

    This week I really spiffed up my get-home bag, half because I really needed to (it’s Florida – things rust quickly in the car and at the office), and half because there’s a local group of preppers just starting to get together, and it’s motivating to have my bag in tip-top shape (so far as I know without a real SHTF event) if others need ideas.

    I also started cooking from my sparkly new cans of LDS food storage. I’ve just made some very basic recipes, like Creamy Oatmeal (yes, I took pictures. I’m weird! http://www.wildriverrogues.com/2012/05/creamy-oatmeal-recipe-from-food-storage/), and pancakes. Actually.. this morning.. for breakfast. The pancakes are AWESOME! Way way better than any pancake batter I’ve ever purchased at a grocery store. They are creamier and thicker. I haven’t made anything with the rice or flour or beans yet, as we’ve been beset with out of town company.

    We TRIED catching wild yeast to make bread from scratch. That ended badly, and very smelly. We’ll try again as soon as the company leaves (I know we had yeast. But apparently we caught something else, something more sinister, too).

    And it was more the week before, but I went to the local gun show with my friend and picked up some more magazines for our S&W 669, and an SOB holster and some snap caps. Hopefully with our company in town, they can watch our wee baby and we can sneak away to the gun range to try out the 669 for the first time. Fun!

    Can’t wait to hear what the rest of you guys are up to,

    ~ Sandy Taylor

    • Bam Bam says:


      I tried to make sauerkraut. You put it in a jar with canning salt to ferment. Mine didn’t ferment. It smelled so bad that my dh took it way out in the woods and dumped. He didn’t want the smell in the trashcan.

      • Bam Bam – Giggle. That sounds so very familiar. It just went VERY badly. Next time, we’re going to try covering them after the “catching” part, and see what happens.

        ~ Sandy Taylor

      • The best way to make saurkraut- layer shredded cabbage, salt ,pound until covered with water, repeat…cover with newspaper, weigh down with something heavy, let stand for three weeks. It will smell, but taste like heaven! Do not add water or anything else, and pound well to break down the fiber of the cabbage.

        • Bam Bam says:


          I may have started with an old cabbage–when I cut it up it was really dry. I had to add water to it.

      • Mary in GA says:

        Haha Bam Bam, when I made my sauerkraut in a 5 gallon bucket, which did ferment and didn’t go bad, it still smelled strong. Not really bad, but kind of acrid. Anyway, I did it in the laundry room, and my dh kept forgetting that I was fermenting. After it became really fragrant, he kept asking if I had left some wet clothes in the washing machine. LOL, even though I knew I would lose the good bacteria, that’s when I knew it was time to can it. I canned it on a Sat. morning and by Sunday morning, no more smell!

        • Bam Bam says:


          Did it smell like sauerkraut is suppose to smell? The batch I made smelled foul, like mold and had black spots on the inside of the pitcher I made it in. I had to bleach the container to get it clean.

          • Mary in GA says:

            Bam Bam,

            It did smell like sauerkraut is supposed to, and tasted really good except just a tad too salty. When I made it my directions/recipe said to sprinkle with salt, but didn’t give a very good idea as to how much. I didn’t get any mold, nothing black, just that scumy stuff that would rise over the weighted plate, that I would spoon off, none was in the kraut though. It was just that having a big bucket of sauerkraut made the laundry room smell different.

  6. riverrider says:

    hi all, where to start…..well bad news first, my trusty friend rusty the wonder dog got plowed by my neighbor’s truck. well, to be accurate, rusty chased and this time caught my neighbors’ truck ,only it was more than he could chew. i’ve never seen so much blood in my life, and i worked many a 10-50pi in my short LEO career. good news is rusty is back from the vet and on the mend. he has a badly broken jaw, puncture wounds to his back, tongue and right paw and a badly damaged left paw. the left paw may be permanently injured. hoping for the best, he is one of the family. surprisingly the vet bill wasn’t all that bad considering all they had to do.
    in other news, received an order of silver and ordered some more while it was down around 30 an ounce. ordered 5 pails of wheat and a six pack of tomato powder from ee,(great sale this month). this order and last months are both shipped, arriving the same day, hmmm…….ordered 3 24 paks of keystone meats,yum…..birthday present to myself, found one each kimber custom 2, 45acp, yay me! hope to get it early next week. prayers to all that needs them. take care and stack it high.

    • Tinfoil Hat says:


      Happy birthday. Prayers sent up for Rusty. I know what you mean about a mutt being part of the family. Here’s hoping he’s back to chasing trucks asap.

      • Harold says:

        Hope he is smart enough not to catch them this time. We had a dog that would catch them and bite the tires and one day he did not get his teeth unhooked in time and it thumped him a couple of time before slinging him loose. He limped and moped around for several weeks and after a couple of months, went right back to chasing them and biting the tires. He only lived until he was 14 years old and my mom backed over him while he was sleeping in the driveway under a mound of snow. He was pretty will blind and deaf by then. They say the same thing will happen if you chase women too.(go blind and deaf)

    • recoveringidiot says:

      RR, hope the dog recovers quick, it’s amazing how fast we get attached to the rascals ain’t it?
      I checked out a Kimber custom today at a show, full size 1911, must have been used at $900. It was so crowded I could hardly stand still with out getting pushed along and finally gave up trying to get the proprietors attention for details. I don’t need another .45 anyway but it sure was a nice pistol. Hope you have many more B-days!

    • Bam Bam says:


      Sorry to hear about Rusty. I am glad he is on the mend.

    • cosmolined says:

      I am sooo sorry to hear about Rusty. My dog is part of my family. Good job on the Kimber! Tell me how you like it.
      My son got mine, so I’m kind of in the market. God Bless you and may He heal Rusty. Cos

      • riverrider says:

        thanks guys. he’s eating well, but having a hard time getting him to drink enough water. he looks pitiful. going back to the vet monday for checks. i hope to have fence up by the time he recovers, if he does that is. they say the paw damage might repair itself or could be permanent. either way he’s still my boy.

        • BamaBecca says:

          rr, on the water….try a turkey baster or even just a syringe. I had a pup that I nursed through parvo once. When they have parvo, they won’t drink, so the vet told me to give him water or gatorade with a turkey baster. At least he will be getting some water. 😉 Hope he gets well soon!

    • JP in MT says:

      Sorry to hear about Rusty. We lost both our dogs this last year and made it a whole 4 months before we had go add a new family member (we had the other 14 and 11 years).

      Congrats on the Kimber! I have been without a 1911 a few times, some times had several, but my Kimber still is my favorite. Just won’t be without one. Same with Beretta 9mm. They are too big, too clunky, but pick one up and it his the target every time. I’ve tried original Beretta’s, Taurus’, and now the Turkish American Tactical. And mags are cheap.

      • I don’t really like the Taurus that much. The trigger pull is real long, and it could fool you into thinking it failed to fire because the end part that makes it go bang is a bit stiff.

    • village idiot says:

      Alright, the Kimber is about to become part of the family! That’s great news, river, but not as good as the news on Rusty. I’m happy the rascal is gonna live to give chase to more cars, but at a respectable distance we hope. More food, silver, and a Kimber puts you at the head of the class, young man. Take it easy.

    • Lantana says:

      More good thoughts for Rusty, RR. . . .

    • axelsteve says:

      Very sorry about the pooch Riverrider.Give him lots of love.

    • RR…tried to past response to Rusty late last week – gremlins again I think..

      anyway…so good to hear your mate is recovering…

      and the best happy birthday wishes being sent your way…cheers.

  7. Bam Bam, great thinking on the homemade soap! I’d be interested in hearing how it all comes out. I made some lavander soap years ago using lavander from my herb garden. I didn’t have any molds so I just used a throwaway foil pan, cut the dark brown soap into little squares and set them on a cooling rack to finish drying on the side counter in my kitchen. DH and a friend came in, spied the soap and thought they were brownies! Still laughing at them….

    Been a busy week work wise again, so grateful for that! I too managed to barter for something good. I traded dog grooming for another crab pot. Looking forward to getting to the coast this next week to try out all of them. Added some chlorinating granules, organized and packed my medical bag, BOGO at Albertson’s with BOGO coupons garnered myself 12 free deoderants, SHTF we won’t be stinky preppers.

    Networking with a client has gotten me a lead on obtaining pinot noir grapes for wine making this fall. Which would be outstandinly great!

    High note of being able to order MD’s two books, waiting for them to ship out. Really looking forward to reading them as I have 5 acres I dream of ‘homesteading’ on.

    Blessings to the pack!

    • Bam Bam says:


      I will definitely write up a post about it. But the soap will take four to six weeks to cure. So it will be a while.

      • Don’t use aluminum pans to make or mold soap, unless you are rebatching soap that is already soap. If you are doing the cold trace process it will react with the lye and make a horrible, unusable mess. Dunno about hot trace, but I assume it’s the same problem.

        • Bam Bam says:

          Penny Pincher,

          I have been researching the cold process method. The molds I will use are made of wood. I will line them with plastic bags. The pan I plan to use is enamel. The other interesting thing that I read is you should have a half gallon of vinegar around just in case you spill lye–vinegar counteracts the lye.

          • Soggy Prepper says:

            I use kleenex boxes lined with freezer paper. Also one laundry detergent box cut down and lined with freezer paper. I don’t make it to sell so I’m not picky about how they look. Sides and bottom a bit bumpily, but that’s okay. I also cut them about 24 hours after pouring, it makes cutting really nice and I just use a knife.

            The castille soap cuts not quite so great. But it is kinda neat in the ‘hunks’ that it comes off in. Ebay has a ton of soap making stuff too.

            We have quite a few different batches down stairs. I make them kinda small (get about 15-20 bars per batch) but I like making different scents. DH did suggest I stop for awhile since we have so much. Gets addicting.

          • Kate in GA says:

            Hey! Remember me? I haven’t posted in a while because I have been working.
            I have been making soap for over 20 years. Just wanted to let you know that you can line that mold with freezer paper, or crisco if you would like.
            Also, no need for the vinegar. If you spill the lye water, use lots of clear fresh water to wash your skin. Dulite it and wash it off is better then counteracting the lye with vinegar. Speaking from someone who routinely gets lye water spilled on them – you have about 15 seconds to get to the sink before you feel the burn. Wear gloves, long sleeves, long pants and sneakers – not flip flops or sandels. I once knew a lady who dropped her soap pot on her legs and feet – she had on shorts and no shoes – she had to go to the hospital. To protect the work area, layer lots of newspaper on the table or counter. Then when you get a spill or a drip off the spoon, it won’t hurt either you or your kitchen.
            Oh, I also don’t allow anyone in the kitchen until I clean up. I also knew someone (different person from above) who had the lye water sitting on the counter and her husband walked in and drank some. He had to go to the hosital too. I never had a bad accident. Wear safety glasses to protect your eyes. Be anal about safety and you won’t get hurt.

            You can also order EO’s on the net for cheaper than any brick and mortar store. Google Brambleberry.com or Majestic Mountain Sage. They have both been around since the mid 1990’s. I add lots of ‘extras’ to my soap depending on the scent. I add nutmeg to a Gingerbread FO I use at Christmas; oatmeal & honey with goats milk; french clay with tea tree oil EO for acne (great for teenagers). You can add extras without worry.

            Hope I have helped!

            • Bam Bam says:


              I am happy to hear from you. I am really excited about soap making. I use white Dove soap or Oil of Olay but even these soaps which are supposed to be for sensitive skin leave my skin super dry. I put lotion on half a dozen times a day, on both my hands and feet. And we live in a humid climate. I don’t think I could make it out in the desert.

              I will have to take a couple of pictures of the soap making process. I plan on writing up a little blurb to help others make soap.

              What other stuff do you put in your soap? Do you like the oatmeal-lavender? Have you tried rose soap with real rose petals? What do you think about such additives?

            • Kate,
              Good to see you back.

            • Kate in GA says:

              Thank you Ohio Prepper!

              You can’t add real rose petals or real lavender flowers to cold process soap. If you want to add those type of potpouri items you need to use glycerine soap or commonly called melt and pour. Both of these additives will turn black and mushy in CP soap.

              I have added things like pumice, lufa sponge pieces (ground up quite fine), ground cloves (with orange EO – great at Christmas), cornmeal (another great for teenage acne), poppy seeds (with Bayberry FO – another Christmas one – cut into shapes and hung on the tree), and once I used herbal tea.
              The herbal tea soap was for an AOL soap swap challenge. I also added cinnamon and ground cloves to that. Soap swaps were quite popular on AOL in the 90’s. You would send a certain number of bars (about 10) to the hostess with money for return postage. When the hostess got everyone’s package she swapped the soap and you got back one bar from all other swap participants.
              Don’t think I have that great a memory to remember one soap swap almost 20 years ago, I have a soap journal. I experiment a lot and if I find a good combo I wouldn’t know how to repeat it if I didn’t write it down! It is also a great way to not repeat mistakes.

            • Bam Bam says:


              I just checked out the Bramble Berry site. OMG. I could spend a lot of money there! I will definitely buy my essential oils there. The price is great. Thanks for the heads up.

            • Bam Bam says:


              I have a book that has recipes for oatmeal, rose leaves and all kinds of stuff. You make a basic soap. Let it harden for two weeks. Then grate and remelt the soap. When it’s remelted, you add the stuff. At least that’s what the book says.

          • Just a quick point for those new soappies…styrofoam containers are great to pour your soaps into as they will hold the heat and cool slowly. They are reusable, durable and can be obtained from a supermarket’s meat dept. They receive fish in them… 🙂 and, yes, are washable and can be lined with freezer paper…voila!

  8. Jarhead 03 says:

    Hey all hope everyone had a productive week. I pretty much scaled down taking Rivers advice and relaxed.
    Prayers sent to the pack and their families.

    Focused on relaxing, 5 out of 7 days at the gym so I’m feeling better. Only did one prep this week outside of  needing to  buy a new phone since my old Blackberry phone crashed on me at work on one of the busiest days of the year. Still learning it since its a smart phone with touch screen. Been avoiding buying one but gave in.

    Dental preps:
    6 packs of dental floss (mint)
    4     75 pack dental flossers
    6 tooth brushes
    48 single use toothbrush/pick 
    2 large bottles of mouthwash
    2    12 count Orajel swabs
    2 small bottlets Orajel liquid
    64 soft pick brushes
    3 tubes of toothpaste
    3 dental mirrors
    3 dental picks
    3 dental scalers 
    36   2X2 gauze
    24  4X4 gauze
    1  large bottle peroxide
    100  cotton swabs

    Printed “Where there’s  no dentist” have it on the net book and several flash drives in the Faraday box, felt a condenced smaller print/size book would be good to have in the kit.

    Took one of my larger tackle boxes meant for another first aid kit and reorganized the large dental first aid kit. I now have an organized dental kit and know what I need to add.

    Have a good week!

    • cosmolined says:

      To one old man, where was the slowing down part? LOL. Good Job, Marine. Cos

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Cosmo, I was at Walmart picking up some dental floss and mouth wash when i saw the dental pick/scraper/mirror in a pack and thought about my dental preps were in a Rubbermaid container and knew I had an empty tackle box at home. I had an idea of what I needed so the prep took me maybe 10-15 minutes and 20 minutes to put it in the new container with the items I already had in the tackle box.

        I guess I couldn’t take a week off after all lol. Need to look at pantry porn I guess lol.

    • 2 small bottlets Orajel liquid

      Remember the new Sensitive Tooth paste works great too, colgate or crest.
      Also Oil of Oregano, can be applied topographically to teeth as well, same as orajel. Note one type is for salads, other type is for teeth! Do not mix them up.. 🙂

      Good work and I need to start hitting the gym again myself.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Wilderness, yeah the spelling errors are. Ad with the touch screen keys and sometimes the spell check overrides and it gets funky. Meant to write bottles.

        The toothpaste is the Sensidine brand for sensitive teeth, dentist said if he had to stock on one. Rand that would be it to protect the teeth. A bit more than the others but I like it.

        Thanks for the tip on the oil, I’m looking to add all types of items. I have decent med skills but after a tooth extraction and a root canal I figured time to prep there. May add some gold or research alternatives for fillings. Have a lot of reading and research to do.

        • Hey Jar,
          My Dentist said use the Sensative/Extra Sensative Colgate and Crest, do not use the Sensidine brand. Too be honest I have noticed a huge difference since switching and dumping the Sensidine. Now I can have cold stuff and hot stuff for the first time since I was a kid.
          Cheers do not worry about the tablet/smart phone spelling, chances are I would miss them anyways.. 🙂

      • Soggy Prepper says:

        Wow WildernessReturn. You did quite the in depth review of M.D.’s blog. I even learned some things about it and I read here near daily!

      • Oil of Clove is another good one to add.

        • Bam Bam says:

          Thanks guys. The Indian store I shop at for lentils and spices has some on the shelf. I’ll pick up a bottle next time I go.

    • riverrider says:

      j, I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO RELAX MARINE! NOW DROP AND GIVE ME 50 AND NEXT WEEK TAKE IT EASY LIKE I TOLD YOU. DO I MAKE MYSELF FAIRLY CLEAR? lol, if that was relaxing, i need to pick up the pace just to get to relaxing.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        River, for me that was taking it easy lol. I go in for dental floss and I’m Dental prepping lol. Did the 50 pushups btw lol.

        • cosmolined says:

          I’m older than you, so I have to ask… how many days did it take to do 50 push-ups? Airborne!, Cos

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            Cosmo, I did them in maybe 2 minutes lol 4 days is what it takes you to get to work when it rains lol.

    • d2 Prep says:

      Jarhead, even if all goes bad in the post SHTF world you are going to have some sparkling pearly whites and minty fresh breath! I too like your version of taking it easy….it’s an addiction I suppose and we just can’t help ourselves. I do get to L.A. periodically and if you want to drop me an e-mail to coordinate, M.D. can forward my address to you.


      • Jarhead 03 says:

        D2 I can’t picture post Armageddon after taking down a tango or zombie and say a cheap one liner, smile and the gleam off my pearly whites gets me shot like the glint off a scope lol

        • d2 Prep says:

          Jarhead, that’s what I was thinking. The pearly whites will blow your Opsec!

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            D2, ever see the war movies where they’ve been in the field for months and all filthy and grungy but they have pearly whites and no bags under their eyes? Can’t stand that lol

            • d2 Prep says:

              Yeah, I think I saw you in the John Wayne classic the Sands of Iwo Jima! LOL

    • village idiot says:

      Good job, Jarhead. They make a little repair kit that contains filling repair material, and I recently added it to my medical kit. If a filling were to come out, the kit allows a temporary repair. You may already have one, but if you don’t, it is a good addition. And I need to get to the gym too, you’re making me ashamed of myself. Be careful and take care.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        VI, I don’t have any temp filling repair yet. Did some research into it. Will be reading how I can use my dremal tool for dental work lol. Dr. Jarhead DDS lol

        • riverrider says:


          • Jarhead 03 says:

            River, for anasteshia I have a 10 pound rubber mallet lol

            • riverrider says:

              OUCH, OUCH! you’re one sick marine:)

            • village idiot says:

              Jarhead, do you run one of those hostels I’ve seen in the movies? Remind me to avoid LA, or at least stay at the Hilton. lol.

            • Bam Bam says:

              I have been thinking of picking up some clove oil toothaches. Has anyone actually used clove oil for a toothache?

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Bam Bam, I’ve used clove oil and it took down some of the swelling but didn’t take away the pain . I was taught soak it on a cloth patch or paper towel and put it against the affected area. For abbsess we would brush the area until it bled and squeeze out the infection, brush again and warm salt water gargle/swishing of the affected area.

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              River I grew up on the 3 stooges, can’t help it lol

            • Bam Bam,
              I’ve used it and it works well. As always, YMMV.
              For toothaches that involve a cavity or filling that has come loose, beeswax to seal the hole after dosing with clove oil also helps by keeping the air away from the nerves.

            • azyogi says:

              I have used clove oil, 10 drops to a quarter ounce Everclear. Take care not to get it on cheek or tongue, put cotton balls around tooth then soak a cotton pellet in oil/alchol and place on tooth. My kids and all thier friends come to me with toothaches. Note; there is some evidence that it will effect nerve tissue in the tooth, but if it hurts bad enough to use this chances are you’re going to need a root canal anyway.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              tried clove oil years ago. If I remember right it taste like ………… well cloves, which I don’t like and it kind of works. A better choice is stuff called Orajel (I think that is right). It comes in a little jube about the size of a Blistex tube and it works great. It is very similar to the stuff the dentist rubs on your gum before he gives you the initial novacain shot. If you have a broken tooth or a filling come out or ssomething similar, you can shoot a dab right in the tooth and it will kill the pain for a good while.

            • Kelekona says:

              Clove oil is somewhat effective. If the tooth has exposed pulp and is throbbing, listerine will hurt immensely, but then the tooth will go numb for a little while.

            • Clove Oil as Orajel have a numbing affect. Also putting a crushed aspiring on the tooth will help the pain. The weed Plantain (sorry no photo…google?) works well on an absess tooth by pulling the infection; just chew it and leave on tooth. Great on bee bites too!

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            VI, yeah I do, Cos is the innkeeper and River we had to let go because he asked the female guests to wear Hopps #9 gun oil lol

            • village idiot says:

              Hoppes #9, that’s redneck perfume, Jarhead. I say give river another chance. As for cos, he’s probably screening for Union members so he can do a little dental work on them with the dremel. lol, just kidding, cos.

              I can see it now, the Jarhead Dental, Gun shop, Army/Navy Surplus Store and Inn. Has a nice ring to it.

            • cosmolined says:

              Everyone knows Breakfree is the best perfume! I’m on my third gallon. LOL, God Bless, Cos

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              VI, you get a 20% discount lol.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              I’m a PBlaster man myself. That hint of oil of wintergreen made me give up on Aqauvelva LONG AGO, LOL

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Cosmo, I use Breakfree as well. It’s what we used in the military

            • riverrider says:

              i worked on weapons so long, my wife swears my sweat smells like breakfree.

        • Jarhead…for a good mouth rinse/germ killer – in SHTF scenario – can use 3% Hydrogen Peroxide diluted in water – do NOT swallow.

          Hydrogen Peroxide is a good item to have in a 1st aid kit…cheers.

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            Chloe, my family has used peroxide for mouthwash as long as I can remember. I use it after I brush or floss my teeth in the event of bleeding let it get in there.

  9. Well did keep up the rythum and prepped some more.
    Coleman fuel
    Hash browns
    Instant potato’s
    canned chicken
    Instant coffee
    I had my daughter pick up 8 of those car window shade things and I got cafe curtain clips going to put them up in the one bedrooms windows to keep the sun from heating that room up so much.
    Still not at full charge but my clippity clop seems to be okay.

  10. Bob in IA says:

    I need to start by thanking Bam Bam for posting her recipe for refried beans. It has become one of my favorites. I canned 16 more pints this week giving me a total of 32. Also canned 7 pints of beef stew meat, I buy the stew meat at Sam’s Club when it goes on sale. Bought a stove top/campfire coffee perculator. Now I can have my coffee if there is no power. Gotta have the coffee!

    • Bam Bam says:


      You are welcome. We love the refried beans. And they were like 33 cents for a pint. And that’s will all the spices and soup mix added into the cost.

      • Was this last weeks recipe? I’ll have to go back and find it….

        • Bam Bam says:


          Dang, I can’t remember where I posted it. Bob, do you have the recipe handy so you could just cut and paste it for PrepMom?

          • Bam Bam says:


            If we can’t find the recipe I think I uses Lipton onions soup mix, chicken bullion and taco seasoning. Soak beans overnight. Add uncooked beans to jars. (I use pint jars.) Fill with liquid. Add canning salt. Process in pressure canner for an hour and fifteen minutes for pint, an hour and a half for quarts. (I should write down my recipes.)

            • Thanks BamBam I’ll make a small batch and experiment with the portions since I have all that on the shelf…. I really need a good recipe that doesn’t require the ol’ ham bone for seasoning… I appreciate it!

            • Bob in IA says:

              Bam Bam just saw the post. I wrote the recipe so I wouldn’t forget it.
              Soak beans overnight. Rinse well and cover with water. Heat for 30 minutes. Put 1 cup in pint jar add 1 T of mixture of Lipton’s onion soup mix and taco seasoning (Like McCormick’s ) fill to within 1 inch of top with hot chicken broth. Put on simmered lids and process. Bam Bam Refried beans are GREAT!

            • Suburban Housewife says:

              Here is the refried bean recipe from Bam Bam when I asked her a few weeks back:
              ” Soak the beans overnight. Rinse. Put just under a cup of beans in a pint. Add 1 Tbs. taco seasoning/Lipton onion seasoning. (I mixed the two seasonings.) Then fill jar with chicken broth. Leave 1 inch head space. My dh likes his refried beans really spicy. If you don’t like them really hot, add a bit less taco seasoning. (You can always add more when cooking.) The one thing that stuck out in my mind that I read a while back is that half the space in the jar has to be liquid–I guess to get the temperature high enough. When I fix the beans for supper, I open the can, drain off some of the broth and/or add a bit of flour as a thickener. (You can’t add thickeners when you pressure can. Thickeners like flour have to be added later.)
              I am at sea level, so I process 75 minutes for a pint.”

            • Bam Bam says:

              Thanks guys. I really should write down the recipes. I usually just imagine what will taste good and do it. (You can do this with pressure canning and spices, but not with water bath canning–the amount of sugar and vinegar/lemon juice are necessary.)

        • thanks folks! I have never canned beans but this looks easy enough for me to tackle as a first project… you all are the best!

  11. Repair Mama says:

    Hello Pack,
    I am sorry for puling a powder on everyone for many weeks now. I have had a horrible bout of “give a crap is broken” along with the “broken service truck blues”. I have tried to do some prepping stuff, and the mounting mess at the office and home has finally taken its toll. My body is rebelling, I am tired all of the time, and the hot flashes are worse now that the heat has kicked in. Sooooooo…..I have kicked my own butt, and trying to get back on back with reality.
    Last night I tried again to clean out mother’s room. Took the insulation off of the window and cleared out the closet. I have been trying to decide what to do with the room and the choices are, Guess room for daughter and twins when they visit. (the room is really small)
    Or to use it for my 2nd job for equipment and work area. I have designated the dresser in there for bed linens, and extra window curtains. I will put bulk storage of personal hygene items, and other like things. The closet is very tiny, and at the momment, does not have a door on it. I can cure the door problem though later on.
    I am angrey at DD for her life choices. I dont want her to try to move back home and mooch. She needs to get a job and keep it! I dont want to be stuck supporting her “Gotta have fun” lifestyle and have her dope smoking, pill popping, meth friends anywhere near my home. She will run the roads with every dime she can lay her fingers on and drag my baby grand sons along for the ride, or just take off and leave me to deal with the aftermath (with a baby on each hip) I will raise the boys if I have to, but I will not let her party on my nickel. WHAT AM I GONNA DO!!! I thought that if I purpose the room for other than sleeping, it will show her that she can not live with us. But I feel guilty that I can not protect the babies unless she is with us. I hate feeling this way. I know exactly what will happen if she comes to live at our house, but she knows how we feel about her friends, and her way of life. She knows that we will expect her to work, get up before 1pm, expect her to take care of the boys by feeding them, and bathing them herself. (And bath herself too) ick!

    Well. sorry bout that. Here is the prepps for the last little bit. I got to get for free the plastic 20oz bottle sliders that are in gas station coolers for pop. the station was taking them out and tossing them. I picked them up for rotation of canned goods, but have not yet figured out how to make them work for me. I will have to build something to put them on……
    -Picked up ladies and men’s body wash, deoderants, girlly products,
    -“be cool for kids” head cooling pads, 2 cold packs that you break the inside and mix for a cold pack for first aid kit,
    -81mg asprine, 4 flats of bottled water,
    -8 boxes of flavoring to mix in bottled water, 2 bxs of single servings of instant coffee for truck,
    -1 bx of “Hydrattion” flavored singles for truck,
    -one can sterno like stuff to cook on for truck
    -4 metal water bottles
    -bandaids, benedryl spray for first aid kit,
    -was given 4 drawer filing cabinet I am using to put preps in. cheap wood one.
    -8 more lbs of sugar to store,
    -a new flag for putting up in front yard with a solar spot light to light it at night. (not a prep, but reminds me that I love America!)
    added tampons to first aid stock. (yes, first aid.) I got these almost free with a sale and use of coupons. bout 5 boxes.
    -picked up 6 bags of side walk salt for .40 cents per bag. added to garage for next winter.
    -got adult long thermal underwear for 1.00 each on clearance, got 3 pairs (tops and bottoms) for son in 3 different sizes for 1.00 each as well.
    -2 more old fashioned oats for storage.
    I think that is everything, it is hard to remember when you get it piecemill and have to hide it. I hate the deception, but what choice is there. I will do what I have to do.
    I hope everyone has a nice weekend
    Bam Bam…… Wow! you are really something. just WOW!
    take care and pray for the nation, we really need it.

    • Oh, that sucks that your daughter is giving you problems … hope things work out better soon!

    • Bam Bam says:

      Repair Mama,

      Sorry to hear about the situation with your daughter. If she has no other place to go, you could have her sign a contract–she has to get a job, keep the job, bath and feed her children and attend at least three NA/AA meetings per week. In exchange for you watching her children while she is at meetings, she can clean and work in the garden. Write out the terms and have her sign a contract. If you are so inclined, if she violates the terms of the contract she must leave but her children stay.

      You did not cause her addiction; you are not responsible for her addiction; and you cannot fix her addiction. But you can certainly make damn sure you don’t enable her addiction and that your grandchildren are provided for.

      • Repair Mama says:

        she is a scum magnet and addicted to stupid.
        just got her kids back cause of a runin with meth.
        go figure

        • Bam Bam says:

          Repair Mama,

          Keep praying for her and your grandchildren. Sometimes they do wake up and get clean and change their lives around.

        • Prep Now [ so. fl.] says:

          Been through that with one of ours. We just notify the authorities wherever she is that we a ready to pick up the grandson at any time on a moments notice. It worked. We had him for 44 out of his first 48 months of life.

        • axelsteve says:

          Repair Mama. From what I have heard from other people ,even if she did find a nice guy she would leave him . Some people are like you said scum magnets, and would not be happy with a straight guy.

    • tampons to first aid stock? What caliber are these? 9mm? 40 S&W? 45Cal? (:

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Ron, tampons and feminen pads are great 1st aid adds for bullet wounds. We carried them for the 7.62×39/7.62x54R wounds and pads as pressure bandages. I take them on camping/hiking trips for original or unintended use.

      • There are also different caliber tampons! Slim, extra strength, etc. Or is that what you meant?

        • Kelekona says:

          Do tampons come bigger than orange? I keep making mistakes and buying the purple-yellow-green packs when I wonder WTF the purple ones are for…. perhaps so that the hoarders will stockpile the sizes meant for 9mm wounds?

          I have yet to use two tampons at once, but two yellows at once should probably serve next time I forget to make a refill appointment a month in advance.

      • arkieready says:

        Lol caliber tampons! Thank goodness i only need blanks. Ha!

    • robert in mid michigan says:

      as far as advice on what to do with your daughter and grand children. its a tough call having not been in your spot i cannot say this is what i would do but i would hope i had the strength to do this. if you know she is doing drugs i would turn her in to protective services and take the children into your home. this way they are being taken care of while your daughter gets the help she needs. its a tough decision no matter what you do but those children deserve a stable and loving home and i know a parents life is thier children but once you become a grand parent that suppercedes being a parent. as i said no easy answers no easy decisions a lot of heart acke and pain. talk to your pastor, priest what have you maybe they can help you in your journey, hopefully they have a better plan than mine, maybe they have some experiance in this. i know how my mother would have handled it and it would have included a baseball bat, hopefully that isnt necassary.

      god bless
      ill pray for you and yours
      keep prepping, but get your family straight
      we are here to be the shoulder for you, and to lend you what strength we can to get you through this difficult time

      • cosmolined says:

        Repair Momma:
        Sadly, I must agree with robert. Protect the little people before all else. It took my 22 year old stepson to be kicked out of the house and having to live in his truck for 3 months to give him a clue….. (His Mom is still angry I did it, but he grew up as a result.) God Bless You and Protect You!, Cos

        • Hunker-Down says:


          I saw a few parents who whined that they needed to give their child more protection, mote shelter, more comfort, etc. Those kids overdosed and died.
          I saw a few parents kick ass, refuse to provide 3 hots and a cot, and the children survived.

        • Candy in Nebraska says:

          I agree with you both Robert and Cos. But I would check with state to even see if you could get custody. Some states won’t allow other family members the children when turned into CPS.
          I don’t have the problem like you do, my daughter is just flat out lazy and don’t care unless it will benifit her.
          Good luck Repair Mama.

      • Repair Mama says:

        I would lovr to handle it like your mom. I am just her step mom, but have been in her life since she was 3 yrs old. she has grown up to be just like her mother. she will move to the place that offers her the easy path and is more fun to her. We work all of the time and therefore are no fun.
        our kids used to be (and still are) ashamed to be seen with us. makes me soooo mad. we work our asses off to provide the things that were needed ans some of what was wanted. then to be treated that way. shamefull.
        daughter and her brother want to use daddy and I as an ATM machine. their mom has always told them to get daddy to pay for it!
        this woman is a piece of crap,trash.
        We did not have custody of these two kids, just visits and free babysitter when their mom had a party. we paid child support, bought all of the cloths, school supplies, coats, shoes, you name it!
        My daughter that we had full time is the complete opposite of the other girl. she will be 21 next week. she is married, her and hubby just bought ba little house, have a baby, and he works like we do. she cleans houses for extra $$, coupons to stretch his earnings, wears clearence or yardsale cloths instead of new, has no tv cable. just movies that the baby likes.
        they are just different.

        • Survivor says:

          I’ve always said the nut doesn’t fall far from the nut. I’m dealing with one that acts just like her mother… Good luck!

    • Repair Mama says:

      Oh, I forgot, I also got a tetnis shot this week.
      ooouuuccchhhh still hurts!!

      • axelsteve says:

        R Mama. Next time you get a tetnis shot rub it real well and around it. It will help and feel much better the next day.

    • worrisome says:

      Sorry you are having troubles with your daughter. Drugs are so destructive. Have you entertained thoughts of an intervention and have you talked with anyone for legal advice about having your grand children turned over to you? It is easy for anyone to tell you what to do, but truthfully each of these situations are all so different that it is a jigsaw puzzle! My heart and prayers go out to you!

    • sw't tater says:

      Repair Mama, Just lettin’ you know that I think you are awesome as well. We all have challenges to our lives, so don’t be discouraged.. I have had to get into our preps due to an unscheduled temporary relocation ( we pray it is temporary)!
      My additions have been mini this week. I added some nuts and sunflower seeds, shelled and salted, and replaced some pudding mix. Have planned the garden to be planted when we return to home turf. Have tended to our tomatoes and zucchini squash at present location…they are blooming!,and nurturing cucumber plants, dh built trellis for the cucumbers…doing the maintainence that MIL unable to do. Spent one evening just Learning all I can from all the posts and tips I find here, for when we get home I will not have internet for a few weeks, and I suspect …(we will be so busy getting our storm shelter completed), we won’t be able to sit at a computer! As far as we know we will have to do it all by hand, so that will be an interesting dig! Later , Hang in there and keep on keepin’ on!

    • Prepper RN says:

      Repair Mama,
      Tough love, the hardest type. But the best for all. Rock bottom is not where you want to be dragged to at this time. Tough love is the best gift you can give.
      I will kepp all you in my daily prayers. God Bless you with stregnth and wisdom.

    • Repair Mama…sounds like you are overburdened and getting close to the burn-out stage…can you talk to someone face-to-face, maybe a pastor/counselor – you can only take on so much..pray for God to strengthen you…and I will pray for you. Cheers.

    • MamaBetsy says:

      Repair Mama, you are certainly in my prayers, as we have been where you are. It is heartbreaking to see your grandbabies put at risk because of their mama’s bad choices, and it is also hard, knowing that their mama is your daughter, who you also love. Repair Mama, have you talked to her about her need to get help for her addiction? Or have you ever thought about making some “advance arrangements” to have her arrested when you know she is doing something illegal–possession, manufacturing, child neglect or endangerment–and be present to take at least temporary custody of the boys? I know that sounds harsh, but you may be saving her life or that of the babies. She needs help badly and there are many state-paid rehab/recovery programs available. At the very least, you need to be very clear to her that you will NOT allow her to stay with you but that the boys can stay there whenever she wishes. We had to take possession of our granddaughter 3 years ago because our daughter was putting her at great risk by exposing her to dangerous men, driving under the influence with her in the car, keeping her home from school because she couldn’t function enough to get up and get her there, drinking and using in her presence, etc. Eventually, after we had her for 3 months, the bio dad requested and gained permanent custody which saddened us but he is a good guy and is doing great with her. Bless his heart, he allows us to see her every other weekend and even allows her to spend the night with us frequently. If he hadn’t been in the picture or hadn’t been a good choice, the courts would have given custody to us. Please consider being proactive before something regrettable happens. While you have absolutely NO control over HER choices, you DO have control over how YOU respond to her lifestyle. I will be praying for you and your family, and for those precious babies who have no control over their situation or safety.

  12. NorCal Ray says:

    It was a pretty busy week for me. Started looking pretty seriously for some land. Picked up a box of Box .45cal. Hornaday JHP Bullets for reloading .45acp., 500 Large Rifle Primers, 3 boxes .410 x 2 1/2″ Slugs, a Blackhawk 15 Shell Shotgun Sling, a set of QD Mag Cap Super Swivels for a Mossberg 500, 3 Spare Filters For Gas Masks, 3 Spare Slingshot Bands (Black) a pkg of 3/8″ Steel Shot for Slingshot, a pkg of 1/4″ Steel Shot for Slingshot , and a pkg of 1/2″ Marbles For Slingshot. I also picked up a Millett Front Sight for 1911, Taurus .38 spec. Lazer Mount, a Pioneer Holsterfor a 1911, 1 Lazer Aim 1911 Laser Mount, a TPM laser Mount for 1911.
    I also was able to pick up laser mounts for a (TacStar Laser Mount) Ruger P85, 1 TacStar Laser Mount for Brown HiPowr, 2 TacStar Laser Mounts for a Sig 220.
    The Ruger, Browning and Sig Mounts are available for 9.95 ea. + shipping. This is just exactly what I paid for them. contact me at [email protected].

    • worrisome says:

      Ray? What kind of slingshot are you recommending? I have some half grown grandkids that should have that experience? Thanks!

      • cosmolined says:

        Those steel ball bearings are the ticket. United Mine Workers used to hit me with them at 75 yards. (Yep, it stings…) Cos

        • village idiot says:

          Are you kidding me, cos? And you weren’t allowed to shoot back? Now that’s a crock of crap if I ever heard one. Wanna share that story?

          • cosmolined says:

            Not Much to add Village:
            A mining company had issues with the UMW. The company trying to protect the owners hired THE WORST COMBINATION IN THE WORLD!!! Half ex-SF, half ex-LE. We had enough issues like turning on flashlights at night behind me while I was OP, that I quit. We did not have sling shots, so we couldn’t shoot back. Just a quick note though, we had vests, helmets and face visors. One time I was randomly peeking out from our barricade at about 40 yards and got hit in the face mask right between the eyes! (Being from Wyoming and knowing a bit about marksmanship, I stood up and clapped for the shooter, much to the dismay of the Company owner who was behind me and saw it all.) Cos

      • NorCal Ray says:

        It’s not just the Grand Kids. The Adults can have fun with them too, and they are a silent way to hunt small game. When I was muuuuuch younger we used to make a larger pouch for them and load it up with #6 – #8 bird shot. We were able to get a lot of flying birds that way. Mostly Quail and Doves. As I said though that was many years ago.
        As for what kind to get, I have both the Marksman and Daisy B52 slingshots. Any good folding model Slingshot will suffice. If you can find the Green or Black bands, I would get at least 4 extra for each Slingshot. The Black andf Green Bands are more powerful than the regular Amber Bands.Use 1/2″ Marbles or 3/8″ Ball bearings.
        You can also get an attachment for the Marksman Slingshots that allows you to use Arrows with it.
        Good Luck and Have Fun.

        • My husband had our grandson out this week teaching him how to use the slingshot. I am not sure who was having more fun… dh or the grand!

        • Survivor says:

          I’ve had quit a bit of success using one of those David and Goliath slings. They can lob a 1 – 1.5 pound rock quite a ways with a lot of force. I make them with some 550 cord and webbing. The sling is about 24″ long. They’re easy to make and use. With practice one can take out a giant 🙂

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            Survivor, the David and Goliath style slingshots are fun. I have made then with deereather and braided cord and I have a couple made with 550 cord and nylon. My GHB and hiking pack has one along with the regular slingshot.

        • I believe in Australia guns and weapons are banned, including slingshots; so it is a good thing to have one. Practice using small pebbles for when you run out of manufactured shots. When young, I made one using a bicycle inner tube.

    • Michele says:


      El Dorado County is pretty conservative AND is not anti-firearm. We even have a pretty liberal concealed carry policy. Besides, as you know, it’s beautiful out here, your wife and daughter would love it. Land is cheap right now and I know a great RE Agent who knows this area really well.

      • NorCal Ray says:

        Where have you been hiding. Haven’t seen you post in quite awhile. I was getting kind of worried as the last time I saw you , you thought it would snow before you got home. I tried calling you last week but got no reply.

        • Michele says:

          Sorry Ray, I have an ex-boyfriend who just won’t leave me alone and calls constantly, so all the phones are turned down.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      NCR, I already got to test my slingshot with the 1/2″ marbles and they work great with the black bands. I was able to hit a target at just under 50 yards. I have to try the bird shot, what did you do, take a pinch full and fire?

      • NorCal Ray says:

        Jarhead 03,
        we made a pouch about double the normal size and filled it. About 1/2oz of shot.

    • axelsteve says:

      Hi Ray! It is good to hear that you got some good scores there.

      • NorCal Ray says:

        Thanks. It is pretty easy though with the job that I have. I seem to run into this kind of stuff on a pretty regular basis. When I do I usually have a choice of picking it up for myself or picking it up and then reselling it to someone else. When it’s something someone in the pack needs I normally sell it for what it costs me as I just want the rest of the pack prepared also.

        • axelsteve says:

          That is very good of you Ray.I wish that I had a way to help more people.

  13. Tinfoil Hat says:


    Of course your readers are Southerners. We have significantly more common sense than Yankees. It’s a scientific fact. Look it up :P. j/j

    Ordered my spare AR-15 this week :D. I went with the DPMS Panther. Should be here by Tuesday. That costing $706.00 shipped, it took a pretty big hunk of the prepping budget, so the only other thing I did this week was buy two more cases of bottled water. FYI, first week of telecommuting was AWESOME!

    I’m becoming more and more concerned, especially as the unwashed Occuppiers have turned more overtly violent. I find both presidential candidates untenable, and I don’t believe I’m alone in that respect at all. There’s a feeling in this country that grows more daily that things just aren’t right, that something is very wrong. I’m no fortune teller, and I don’t usually throw out predictions like this, maybe the tinfoils wrapped too tight around my head, but I think we are in for a long, hot summer. Buy your ammo now. Saying my extra prayers for us all nightly….

    • riverrider says:

      tin, roger all of that, and congrats on the ar. we’re feeling the same sense of forboding, which is why i’ve pulled all the stops, going for broke on the prepping. i’ll be broke, but not hungry:)

      • Tinfoil Hat says:

        Thanks bud. Can’t wait to fire her. And yeah, go for broke. Not sure what’s gonna happen come the fall, but just a broad feeling that it won’t be good…

    • Bam Bam says:


      I agree with your assessment. I just can’t believe we are left with two clueless goofballs.

      • Pineslayer says:

        Hey Bam Bam, Tinfoil, and all other disillusioned voters.

        We all lose if either of these guys win. One probably will unless we revolt and find another. How? How do we convince America to just say no and vote the 2 party system out of here? Or fix both parties? I for one don’t believe it is possible to fix them. Both are controlled by the extremes and have a death grip on the system. We have the power if we chose to use it. In case it doesn’t happen, I’m going to sight in at the range tomorrow, 22’s. Been building up my gardens the past few weeks and my business partner is starting up the bunny production. We have an agreement to trade my greens for his rabbits, yum.

    • cosmolined says:

      Tinfoil Hat:
      Sorry, I’m from NORTHERN WYOMING. LOL. I agree that things are interesting. I can’t find the will to pray for this country any longer. Fifty percent of leaches seems terminal to me. I now only pray for my family and the pack. God Bless, Cos

      • Tinfoil Hat says:

        Lol, Wyoming is the west. Totally different than north. Don’t get me wrong, I pray for the Pack first, cause I believe/hope they’re praying for me. But I gotta at least ask the good Lord for mercy in this nation, whether we deserve it or not.

    • robert in mid michigan says:

      hey whats the beef with us yankees:)
      not sure that i am a true yankee though my dad is from virginia, moms family comes from way up in the u.p. supposedly were in cananda before that.

      i have to agree something is going on thier pushing in areas that shouldnt be pushed, arnt talking about the things that need to be discussed. either thier stupid or believe we are either way its not good.

      • Tinfoil Hat says:


        You have legacy common sense, on your Daddys side. You’re no Yankee :). Lol. I agree completely. There are REAL issues and REAL problems in this nation that need REAL solutions. And Columbian whores former VP candidates love child’s/mistresses are NOT amongst them….

      • cosmolined says:

        My family came from Misery before I was born. I think it must be a Suthern thing….. :), Cos

        • NorCal Ray says:

          My best friend is from misery. I keep telling him he’s just a backwoods Missouri Redneck from the state of Misery. LOL
          He just turns around and calls me a Jayhawker.

      • Quite a few from Canada as well.

    • Kelekona says:

      Stop picking on us Yankees. Stupid order an iced tea with sugar and get hummingbird food… I’m just forcibly displaced.

      I think everything will be just fine. Maybe the masquerade will crumble, but the rest of you are going to go mad from the revelation while I’m staring into my smart phone like the sheeple and will barely register it.

      Just to think, my first zombie-walk might be with the prepper’s definition of zombie instead of a bunch of loonies in makeup.

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      I don’t know how true it is


      But I would imagine the military high ups/government is preparing for some kind of serious civil upset. No one is happy at this point except the Occupy bowel movement folks, but anarchy and chaos is what they want.

      News just depresses and scares me into prepping full bore. If obummer does get in in November all my political signs come down from my house, my bumper stickers disappear and I’m going to hunker-down and become as invisible as possible.
      It’s going to get nasty.

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Soggy , I removed the political and NRA sticker many years ago. A friend told me if you are conservative pulled over by a liberal officer or vice versa it could go bad on you and with the NRA/gun stickers you are more likely to have your vehicle broken into or the officer walk up with his firearm pulled. He was a 30 year retired Police Officer. I have Marine Corps Sticker and a simple sticker on the windshield and that’s all.

        • Pineslayer says:

          Jarhead, I removed my NRA stickers also. I was afraid that it might make my vehicles a target for thieves. The only political sticker I have displayed is,

          ” Swearengen and Bullock in ’08”

          They are tough on everything.

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            Pineslayer, so true that the NRA sticker increases your odds of someone breaking into your car because they think you may have left the gun in your car or truck. I know some areas this may not be the case but in city areas the odds increase.

        • axelsteve says:

          Jarhead. My vehicles are sticker free zones also.I knew a retired 49 player who had a nfl alumni sticker on the back window of his mercedes. That is kinda a special decal though.

      • village idiot says:

        Soggy, I have an NRA sticker on my truck, and a NOBAMA sticker as well. I live in Arkansas, which is the most anti-Obama state in the Union if you look at the 2008 election. I saw an Up Yours Obama bumper sticker today, and it’s good to know who your friends are, if you know what I mean. Of course, I live in a small town, that makes a difference, although my NOBAMA sticker went with me to DC as well, and I got nothing but support. Of course, the states I traveled through were Tennessee and Virginia.

        • cosmolined says:

          Here in Kalifornia, life is different. I had a man try to run me off the road because he didn’t like my “My kid can kick your honor student’s ass!” sticker. I am totally neutral now. An American flag decal and a UCSB Dad decal. Cos

          • village idiot says:

            Someone tried to run you off the road, huh? That means you need a bigger truck, cos. Get you a Silverado 4×4 crew cab, and they will have to be driving an 18-wheeler to run you off the road.

            • cosmolined says:

              I was thinking more along the line of an M113….. with a .50 Cal., Cos

      • Hmm, let’s see.
        Govbizopps website advertised for people to work for internment camps. Then they advertised for contractors to provide services like portapotties and catering for said camps with 48 hrs. notice Then they advertised for contractors who could erect labor camps with 48 hrs. notice.
        Prison Planet (and Infowars) just 2 days ago leaked a 2010 Army manual for running internment camps in the US. It has a section about making a name board with social security numbers on it, it mentions Posse Comitatus – it’s for use here. It also talks about identifying singling out political dissidents in the prisoner population for “re-education”, loudspeakers, PSYOPS, etc. etc.
        Some of the language with these internment camps suggests to me that they intend to imprison military in them as well as civilians. Perhaps they are anticipating a mutiny…
        DHS around last month bought 450 million rounds of .40 hollow point and 175 million rounds of .223.
        The Dept of Agriculture bought millions of rounds of various handgun ammo shortly after that.
        NDAA got passed with the indefinite detention clause in it, and the way it’s written it definitely applies to Americans detained on American soil.
        SOPA and PIPA were defeated, then we got CISPA which passed the House so far, it’s far more evil than SOPA or PIPA. Write your senator and raise a stink!
        May 1 Obama signed an EO that could provide for the confiscation of Americans’ guns via international law rather than go through Congress or the judicial (an EO is not a law, and that’s unconstitutional, but when has that stopped them?) On the surface the EO looks to be about trade laws and removing restrictions on international trade, but it could very easily be used to take our guns.
        By July 12, they will be deep packet inspecting everything everyone does online. They probably already do, but now it will be legal and they’ll be able to force your ISP to do it for them.

        The creator of PGP and some others are busy developing a communications system with NO backdoors, called Silent Circle, to be beta-released July 15. However, the FBI has now called for a legal REQUIREMENT for all telecom and internet forms of communication to include government backdoors.

        Are there any telecom experts in the house?

        • I almost forgot. In November many of us (18 states and DC, including swing states FL and MI) will have our votes counted overseas in Spain by a company called SCYTL, which is owned by a major 2008 Obama donor who is a pal of George Soros. The way they’ll do it will make it impossible to check your vote against how it came out over there to make sure they counted yours right, and there will be no paper trail. SCYTL just bought the Florida corporation that had these contracts for vote machines. How do you like that? I don’t like it at all. Too much opportunity to steal the vote. No accountability. Bad.

          • mountain lady says:

            Penny, It is my firm belief that TPTB have already selected our next president, and at 8:02 Pacific time on election night, they will tell us they selected, same as last time.

        • BamaBecca says:

          several times now, I have seen a commercial on TV for an IT school advertising that there will soon be 30,000 cyber security jobs opening up. They are trying to recruit, yes, but how do THEY know those jobs are coming? Guess I best get my rear in gear and get everything I want to save and print on paper before (July?).

    • d2 Prep says:

      Tinfoil, your gut is correct I am afraid. I think the Occuturds are just the tip of the ice cubes. It is no longer “Civil disagreement” in this country. There is what I call dangerous envy and hatred that is being fueled and backed by TDL and others in power. Stay armed my friend and let’s all keep our powder dry and check your six!

      • BamaBecca says:

        VI, don’t forget the clothes pins! Although in a pinch, you can just hang them over the line, you’ll just have wrinkled clothes. 😉

        Be careful down in Baton Rouge. Been a while since I was there. I had my very first margarita in Baton Rouge…at the ripe old age of 38. gosh I’m gettin’ old!

        • BamaBecca says:

          now, how did this post get way up here? hmmmm, well anyway VI, hope you see it.

          • village idiot says:

            It’s ok, BB, I see it, and thanks for the reminder. I have some, but will get some more for barter and just to have some extra. Thanks.

  14. village idiot says:

    The prepping this week has been on the light side. I’ve spent most of my time on the computer working, but have mingled the work time with posting and reading MD’s blog. Good stuff.

    I went out to the hardware store this morning and got some wire clothesline per BamaBecca’s recommendation and put it into storage. I also bought a set of good screwdrivers, a small flashlight for my wife’s purse(she never has one when she needs it), a couple of cheap dynamo flashlight/radios they had for $9.99 ea., a 12-pack of 100 watt incandescents, and some vice-grip pliers.

    I have to make a business trip to Baton Rouge next week, and I’m not looking forward to that at all. The flood of refugees from Katrina for the most part never left Baton Rouge, so it is crowded, the traffic is horrific, and crime is really bad. I hope to be back by Thursday, but will check up on the Pack from time to time. I hope you all have a great week prepping, as I will get nothing done next week. Well, prepping wise that is, I better make some money.

    • riverrider says:

      vi, good luck in br. stay safe.

    • cosmolined says:

      Stay Safe, Village! Cos

      • d2 Prep says:

        Village, check out Tiger Stadium if you get a chance. It is a work of art if you are a college football fan. Some good restaurants around their too.

        • village idiot says:

          Oh, yeah, will def check out Death Valley and its surroundings. That will be the highlight of the trip for me, and with LSU on break, I can probably find parking down there. Thanks for the heads up, d2.

          • d2 Prep says:

            Village, not that is has anything to do with prepping, but I am an avid tailgater and can cook tree bark at a Tailgate and it will taste good so long as there are suds to wash it down with. Longest Tailgate and probably one of the best ever was at LSU 3 + years ago. Arrived at 8 AM, ate drank, played and went into the stadium at 8 PM….so I am told. If it was not for pictures I could not swear that I actually made it in to the game! Geaux Tigers!!!

  15. Is there an equivalent of the solar powered motion controlled floodlights you got that project infrared rather than visible light?


    • alikaat says:

      Hi Pete-
      You can get IR bulbs for your motion-sensor controlled fixtures. If you know the wavelength of light that works well with your IR detection equipment (I am assuming you are using goggles and/or camera), you can buy them from scientific or hobby supply sites. Our old friend Google might be able to help you there.
      Good luck!

    • Snipping out the LED from a standard solar light and soldering in an infrared replacement LED should work, as long as the forward voltage for the new LED is the same as the original. For a single cell NiCad/NiMH powered solar light, 1.2 volts probably. Something like this maybe: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062565

      Never tried it, but if I’m following your thinking Pete, it’s a great idea. Besides cheap grid-down IR illuminators for your NV equipment, might also be a deterrent to anyone thinking of approaching that had NV gear too.

  16. worrisome says:

    For various reasons, I just got around to watching Glen Beck’s Rumors of War III, and it scared the crap out of me! After watching this movie, I want to move everyone underground somewhere far north of California!

    I started rehab on my knee. Feels painful and is making me crabby. No other words for it.

    The garden is mostly in.

    The neighborhood safety concerns are still going forward. Electric fences across the backs of 7 homes are in. There are several “settings” for the amount of power that can be distributed to them. Every home now has a generator set up and we are still awaiting parts for the solar panels. Right now the fences are running off regular current so we can see what the effect is on our power bills. We have also placed some trip alarms at intervals back into the forest. Security cameras are still a work in progress. All the wiring is underground thanks to the neighbors getting together the last couple of months and making appropriate trenches. Security lighting is also being discussed. Some think it is a good idea, others would rather the profile were lower. We have someone with some military training coming to help us make that decision.

    Already, after just running out that crazy bunch of squatters that were back in the hills, there have been some trail bikes in and out of the same area. The attraction to that particular spot is easy availability to water with which to run pipe to marijuana plants. The neighbor with the back hoe is just waiting for the ground to firm up some and the rain to quit and that trail back in there is going to be a surprise to some of those guys. Of the group that the sheriff and friends kicked out, most of them were released with no charges, three had a one way ticket compliments of ICE back to Mexico. If you have ever watched that show Wild Justice, some of those episodes are featuring pot raids very near to where we are located. The mentality of those that indulge in this form of earning a living is often very lawless. The group that we just ran off shot at anything. No one feels comfortable hiking or biking in the area anymore because of the lawless elements that are armed to protect the marijuana. They build campfires in high fire danger areas. Summertime is tender dry with lots of brush amongst the trees and you get to worry about them starting a forest fire. The last few years there have been numerous fires from campfires at marijuana grows and meth labs threatening many parts of the Mendocino National Forest. We also are buying up some two way radios so we have extra ways to communicate between the houses in case we need to. This group has come together for a specific cause……..safety. There has been no talk regarding political issues or other types of emergencies that we might face and for now, I am still comfortable keeping my preparations to myself. Right now the objective is safety from criminal elements, fire prevention, humanely keeping the wildlife out of our vegetable gardens.

    The menfolk in the family are still working on a mid continent meet up this summer for a survival training course. I had hoped we would have details but it hasn’t all fallen into place yet.

    Family did a Costco run for more canned goods, water and such.
    I have been reading Tom Coburns new book “The Debt Bomb”. Very depressing!

    • mountain lady says:

      Worrisome: If you could, would you tell me in a few sentences what scared you on the GB video. I cannot download video or audio as am on an old computer on a land line. I, too, live in Norcal. I would get out of here if I could, but cannot. I read the stuff on what the DHS is expecting shortly and really scared myself yesterday. I would rather be forewarned then asleep.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Worrisome, I’d you need any tips or advice on the security measures let me know. I’ve been out that way years ago and it’s tough when you know the City/County LE have their hands tied and Fed LE is streatched thin. You’ve been doing great from what I’ve read. Good luck

      • worrisome says:

        Thanks Jarhead. Right now, the only major decision is “to light up the night or to not light up the night or if we should light it up with motion sensors on the areas behind our properties. This group of squatters made the neighborhood edgy because they had guns and used them and after being up in there and seeing how they were living and what was found that was obviously stolen……….the concern was what was going to keep them from hopping our back yard fences and breaking into our houses. That never happened but that is where this group went. There are all kinds of wild animals in the forest, deer, bear, bob cat and cougars as well as some wild pigs and lots of smaller stuff. I can see motion sensors being very busy and perhaps we would get blase’ about it. I am going to go with the community vote I think…..If you have any ideas, I would welcome them!

        • Jarhead 03 says:

          Worrisome, I smeared axel grease on top of the brick wall because we had an issue with kids climbing the wall to walk through when I first moved in. No issues since lol

          • worrisome says:

            OOOOOOOOOOOOO passing this one on Jarhead, I can think of a couple of applications just on my own for it. Now…where exactly do I go to get axel grease?????

            • Jarhead 03 says:

              Worrisome, you can go to any auto parts store and pick it up in a bucket also look for packing grease it works the same. After dirt accumulates it gets dirty and will get all over their hands and clothes making it easily identifiable for the local LE.

  17. Ridge Runner says:

    Well let’s see:

    -Bought a bunch of canned meat products; hams, corned beef and beef and gravy. This will go into the short term (2-3 yrs) section of the larder.
    -Froze six pounds of green beans. Still amazed at how many I’m getting from a very few plants., and there are more on the way. Cherry tomatoes are just beginning to turn red. Awesome!
    -Got another case of qt. wide mouth ball jars.
    -Ordered an emergency tube tent and several mylar type “space” blankets for BOB.
    -Scouted a last resort bug out route thru the woods behind our house. Saw more than one pygmy rattler. Nasty little buggers. My new Woodsman’s Pal ended ’em.
    -Went through my main trauma kit and updated quite a few items as well as compiling a more accurate list of contents.
    -Lastly I went to the range last week and pumped fifty rounds thru my carbine. Was getting kind of rusty. Scored the X ring more often than expected.

    Well, that’s about it. Ya’ll be particular.

    • BamaBecca says:

      RidgeRunner, it might be a good idea to pick up a snake bite kit or 2. They sell them at Wallyworld in the sporting goods section. I have them on my list as well…Be careful of those boogers!

      • village idiot says:

        BB, did you go get any mayhaws this past weekend? I meant to tell you that the best way to get them off the trees was to take an old blanket or quilt, spread it out, and shake the limbs above it. The ones that are ready fall off pretty easy. This system has worked out well for us over the years, but one can pick them as well, just takes longer. Hope you enjoy them.

        • BamaBecca says:

          No, VI, I ran out of cash before I got that far on my list! lol But I plan to try to go this weekend if nothing happens to prevent it. I sure appreciate that tip and will definately take an old blanket with me. I did manage to buy some extra sugar, cheesecloth for straining and some pectin to get ready for mayhaw jelly! Its been a long time since I made jelly, but I’m pretty sure its like riding a bicycle…once I get back on, it’ll come back to me. If you have a recipe you’d be willing to share, I sure would appreciate that too!

          I also have a wild plum tree in the woods next to our place and it is loaded….if they all don’t get worm ripe, they’ll be going into jars as well.

          Has anyone tried making jelly with Splenda or some other low sugar sweetener?

          • village idiot says:

            BB, I’m heading to Baton Rouge first thing in the morning. When I get back home, I’ll look up the recipe for you and post it here. And someone a few weeks ago posted about something you can use to stop worm rot on wild plum trees. It seems like it was recovering idiot. Maybe someone will chime in. See you later, and I won’t forget your recipe.

            I also hope your sister is doing better, and we are still keeping your family in our prayers. Take care.

          • azyogi says:

            I used to make some for an Ex wife, as I recall there is a special pectin for splenda and such sweetners. As soon as the Nopalae get ripe I am going to try makeing jam with Agave Necter, hope to take advantage of the low glycemic index of agave. Will use less anyway as agave is 3 times sweeter than sugar.

      • axelsteve says:

        Snake bite kit would be a good idea for me,I live in snake country.Rattlers get pretty big from what I hear.

  18. I wish I could help on a review but it would read “M. D.’s blog is great!”. Not much of a writer beyond that. I don’t even like writing them for Amazon, mine come off lame. But I will try.

    Not much to report this week: Shopping trip to Walmart- 4 cans DH’s favorite soup, a package of Bear Creek chili, 3 more bottles of shampoo and conditioner ( back up to two years worth), 1 bottle of body wash, and more sewing machine needles. Grocery store: 3 cans of spaghetti sauce $.85 each (would have bought more but already have 12 ), flour tortilla shells, and 8 pounds bone-in chickenbreasts that were foodsavered and frozen.

    Had doctor visit this week and happy to say that I have been able to reduce the number of Rx’s down to 2 from 4. I have one OTC, Prilosec that replaces the need for an expensive prescription. That makes me happy to reduce the cost of meds in the family. I just need to lose 10 pounds and get in better shape because it won’t help to be prepared if I am not physically fit enough.

    Glad to hear from BamBam that Thrive is supposed to be coming through on their orders, I have a case of the meat that is on back order.

    I hope everyone is doing well, it concerns me there are several of our members that we haven’t heard from in a while: Pam, Lynn, Lake Lilli, Cliff, etc. I am glad we have lots of new friends, but I miss some of the old guys like Lint, Bctruck, templar knight, Luddite Jean, Sheri (Indiana), etc. Sorry guys, just being sentimental I guess.

    Seems like the OWS protesters were full of the Black bloc anarchists and caused some damage on May 1st. I heard one interviewed who said instead of a capitalistic US, we should have a “anarchized communist US and everyone’s food, clothing, homes and healthcare would be free”! What the…? Who do they suppose would pay for it? I know there are some here who think OWS protesters are just a bunch of upset people who can’t find work but I think that the majority are either anarchists or communist/socialists/marxists who want to change this country for the worse. One of the “organizers” was on Sean Hannity the other night and was such an obnoxious little twerp, I wanted to wring his neck. He said the police were to blame for all the violence and crime in Zucotti Park because NYPD “sent” rapists and criminals down there to make the OWS crowd “look bad”! He is a 29 year old who has no training, skills or job experience who won’t take a job offer for less than $80,000 per year. I bet he has money coming in from somewhere: unions, political backers, etc. I am all for being upset when you can’t find a job, but there is a better way to get one instead of breaking store windows and throwing rocks and bottles. Those are the ones we have to watch out for.

    • MtWoman says:

      Yes…nothing like militant sheeple….

    • worrisome says:

      You are right about the little twerp. But to me, they are in such a bad mental state that all they want and know how to do is destroy. There is nothing in anything they have said that leads me to believe that they have any idea at all on how to make anything better for anyone. You have to wonder who is behind them, leading them or pushing them that has the plan and what the plan really is. It is always about power and money……….and it is not a good one for the general working class I am sure.

      • sw't tater says:

        The twerp admitted to living off of his student loans…that’s why he doesn’t want to have to repay them!

      • grannyj says:

        Did you all see the”scrapple” as Mt Woman calls em at the fence in DC? Young white kid, tattooed, kept his face and head covered with a neck scarf (guess it was cold) and he kept the crowd going….once he got them to the “chant” – “Obama, come out, we got shi* to talk about!” the kid left – the camera followed his exodus –

        I like the chant – we DO have many things to talk about – and the man in the casa blanca aint listening. The violence needs to end, but of course when you dont work for anything and don’t pay for your own roof, clothing etc by the sweat of your brow – why would you care that the cost of the carnage passes to those who do?

        It’s evident that these folks wouldn’t work in the fields to provide food for themselves or their families if needed. Hence one of the many reasons farmers hire illegals – like the WA farmer that was fined for hiring/harboring illegals.

        Yeah, why didnt they arrest the brick throwing ijit? Lethal weapon.

        off of my rant now.

    • george says:

      I bet some of them are just those pie in the sky liberal potheads that jump on any cause they think is the new cool thing. They also probably live off their trust funds since they graduated from some ive league school with a degree in philoshopy or some other usless waste of time. Bet quite a few of them are huge dissapointments to their hardworking parents..

    • Kelekona says:

      Ms ACW, too bad his book is not into e-edition for loaning purposes.

      I know I had little else to do but joyride last week, but even though I managed to hit 70kph on the needs-a-blue-name; it is not ready for taking me to the library at full throttle, especially since he was pulling forward on idle at the time and I had hubby take a screwdriver to the problem.

    • village idiot says:

      Ms ACW,

      I saw one of the little occuturds on TV standing on top of a roof in San Francisco throwing bricks at a crowd of people on the street. And what was worse to me is the fact that the police were all just standing around watching him throw brickbats and doing nothing. One of the bricks finally hit the mark and hurt someone. I just can’t believe that LE let this guy do this. It just encourages them. The guy was trying to hurt or kill someone, he should have been shot like the mad dog he is. I still can’t believe what I saw.

  19. MD and Wolfpack
    Thank you for having this site. I was so over whelmed when I first started prepping that I didn’t know where to start. I reviewed every website I could find but this is by far the most informative site I have found. I now have a plan, have started stocking , and I am learning new skills to help. These suggestions are from YOUR site. Thank you!

    What did I do to prep this week:

    Case good sale this week so awesome savings
    2 cases canned green beans
    2 cases canned corn
    2 cases chili
    25 lbs sugar
    1 case canned peaches
    1case canned pears
    1 case fruit cocktail
    1 cases canned milk
    3 36 pack TP

    We also got chickens in the chicken coop and are working on it to make the yard a little bigger. Starting on the green house too!
    New skills: sourdough bread and dutch oven cooking

    Again Thank you, peace of mind is a blessing!

    • Tonya from TN says:


      I agree with you completely. This site has helped me so very much by providing great information as well as lots of positive communication. Great job on your prepping accomplishments this week!


    • Bam Bam says:


      Welcome to the Wolf Pack. If you have questions, feel free to ask. We like to talk.

    • Tinfoil Hat says:


      Sounds like you had a pretty good week! And we are glad you’re here

      • grannyj says:

        Tinfoil, I just had to share with you – I was just reading the comments on an article on my msn homepage – one of the respondents accused another of having his “tinfoil wrapped too tightly around his head” – something like that! I immediately thought of your name and laughed my ass off (in a good way, with you, not at you – I love the name) – seems you are being cloned…..

        The article I was reading was regarding the fact that for the last four months DHS has been tracking some computer breaches in ourn natural gas lines and has told the companies NOT to do anything to block the attempts. AMBER alerts – oh but do nothing. They are trying to see what they are after….or so the speculation goes.

        If you go to the msn page it says “cyber attacks on gas pipelines?” Not a headline, I guess the ky derby hats are more important. One of the little sub newsworthy items. It may extend up into the Canadians pipelines as well.

        Tinfoil…don’t wrap too tightly now…..grins

  20. Buuurr in Ohio says:

    Dug massive holes for two lilac trees that are obstructing my view into the backyard. I plan on moving those to the holes at the edge of my property where they can obstruct the view of others looking in.

    Not much other than that due to record breaking heat here in Cleveland.

    • When I was a little girl, my dad planted pine trees bordering our front yard. He put a carp (fish) under each one and they grew like crazy. In no time those trees completely covered our front yard. Thought you might want to know.

      • Buuurr in Ohio says:

        Thanks, Ammie. Rotten fish is a great tree fertilizer actually. Back where I am from (Newfoundland, Canada) we put caplin and by-catch fish on very thin topsoil (we don’t have much. Glaciers took it and placed it on The Grand Banks off our shores) and seed it with grass seed and have thick grass in a few weeks. Our island started out as a fishing colony so left over fish was common when I was a kid.

  21. Ok DJV, hope that I measured up this week! Very limited funds, so I did as much as I could. Here it goes.
    Food stuffs:
    15 quarts powdered milk
    2lb bag powdered cappuccino mix (just ad water)
    2lb bag Power aid mix (just ad water makes 5 gallons)
    2 boxes aluminum foil
    3 garlic powder
    2 1.5lb sticks of summer sausage (no fridge needed)
    2 bags Worthers hard candy
    2 bottles tobasco sauce
    10liters of water stored
    4 cans raveoli
    Garden planting:
    green beans
    yellow beans
    summer squash
    Crochet 1 blanket (used up spare yarn found in closet)
    re-organized food storage
    3 prs extra garden gloves
    12pks of canning seals
    6 canning jars with rings (garage sale)
    1 12pk toilet paper
    2pkg muscle relief patches
    1 shampoo
    1 conditioner
    2pkg kitty treats
    2pkg dog treats

    While at a garage sale I ran into a family friend and was asking about canning jars. Over the next couple of weeks I am suposed to meet up with her and she has several boxes full of large mouth quart jars and a pressure cooker that I will be recieving! FREE!!! God bless older friends. She no longer cans and is in her 70’s. I am mid 30’s. She was just happy to give them to someone whom will put them to good use.
    Hopefully I have at least met your prepping from last week. Challenge complete! Grin. Cant wait to hear what you all have done this past week. Happy prepping.

    • village idiot says:

      Wow, great job, Ammie.

      • I did what I could with what we had this week. Feeling pretty good about it! Thanks for the compliment.

    • Ammie…excellent…amazing how the encounters you now have are geared to prepping…as in the canning jars from an old friend…

      remember to pace yourself…and good to read you are having fun with it…cheers.

  22. There was a god sale on meat here, so I canned 24 pints of hamburger, dw raw pack canned 13 quarts of chuck roast after I chunked it up. She also made 24 pints of blue berry jam. I finally paid for my cc class next week.

  23. billy bad says:

    I am new to the prepper community and lifestyle. I am 23 and graduating next week from college found this website last month. At that time I ordered Preepers Pocket Handbook 101 prepping idea. Read it and I started prepping last week. This week I read most of Tappan on Survival. Bought some first aid stuff for my BOB also a machete, mosquito netting, some ammo for my .40 and .22, bought TEOTWAWKI for my mom, 7packs of bottled water, 20 extra can goods, and finally 50lbs of rice. Also gave two of my friend Tappan on Survival they both started a bug out bag this week. Almost for got went to the range this week and also started working out again.

    • Hey Billy
      be careful of what you have on Campus! Although I have been prepping for a while now, I just started Tappan on Survival as well, I rather like it so far.

      Look to the links on the right for the Drinking straw, Lifestraw, I will be ordering one of them soon as well. You can only carry so much good water with you, then you need to re-supply and re-hydrate.
      Starting young, excellent by the way

    • Bam Bam says:


      Welcome to the Wolf Pack. It sounds like you had a good week.

    • riverrider says:

      bb, welcome. looks like you’re on the right track.

      • d2 Prep says:

        Billy, good to see young people like yourself with a good head on your shoulders. Welcome to the Pack.

    • Billy Bad…welcome aboard…good preps too…

      and good move on sharing prep info with your friends…

      the more people who are given time and info to prepare – the better…cheers.

  24. Tonya from TN says:

    Well, as a newbie to the prepping world, I feel good about what I got accomplished this week.
    – Finished planting my garden
    – Got some valuable information about my herb garden from a free “green” workshop offered at a nearby university
    – Added to my non-perishable food supply and some toiletries from the local dollar tree
    – Got registered for a mail-delivered prescription program (I can get a 3-month supply for the cost of 1 month’s worth at the local pharmacy)
    – Cleaned out our closets and storage for our upcoming yard sale
    – Made 10 fire starters with dryer lint and empty toilet paper rolls and stored them in a ziploc bag for our bug out bag
    It is not as much as others but I keep taking small steps in the direction I need to be heading to be more prepared for my family.

    • Bam Bam says:


      Don’t compare yourself to others. With the preps you did this week you are better prepared than you were last week. That’s what counts.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Tonya, do what you can and don’t go broke. Last year this time I was living off my preps due to a tax levy that took a chunk of every check for 7 months. Remember what you add is better than what you had. Even clearing things you don’t need is a prep in itself helping you find things, the sell adds money and with that you have room to add new preps.

    • Tonya welcome to the pack. Everyone here started in the same place you are. From what you have done so far puts you ahead of 95% of the rest of the country. Besides, I like your handle.
      Keep the Faith

    • I have only been prepping for about 2-3 months. You would be amazed at how quickly your stock pile will grow. I can only put just a little toward it each week. Thank goodness for garage sales!! I also use a LOT of coupons.

      Keep up the great work and remember that every little bit helps.

  25. grannyj says:

    GM WP –

    in case anyone is interested – msnbc has a small news video up this morning re: al-quiada (?sp) is encouraging the settinbg of wildfires in the US as a terrorist tactice – just a quick one to two minute vid.

    Stay safe

    • MtWoman says:

      grannyj…I couldn’t find it on their website…could you provide a link?

      • village idiot says:

        MtWoman, just google al-qaeda and forest fires and a number of stories come up. I just watched the one on GMA, but there are others. The al-qaeda website Inspire advised the tactic, but there have been suspicious fires already set that were likely al-qaeda attacks, with the largest fire in Arizona history started at the border last summer. It was either illegal aliens or al-qaeda, but I credit al-qaeda. And many more attacks are likely, especially if we get dry weather. The grid will also likely be attacked by al-qaeda in the near future. Plan accordingly, and get ready for a long, hot summer.

      • grannyj says:

        MtWoman – just saw this – soroy, but see that VI and Jarhead answered for me. Yes I have no doubt that some of the fires have been set by AQ.

        Jar, I remember the canyon fires in So Cal some years ago where we lost a whole group of FF when they got caught in the canyon – don’t want anyone to go through that again – it was terrible –
        Not surprised that the DOF thinks it likely, because it is.

        Another example of targeting our resources – china is buying up our natural resources – gold, tin, etc., AQ etc targets our pipelines, and forests – Iran aiming for an EMP – well those are our major sources of power, heat – many of us on here heat with wood and live near wooded areas (raises hand – no trees, no wood – no heat source.

        hmmm anyone else think TDL isn’t adressing the situation?

        I try to post links, but on my little netbook (no wireless mouse – guess I should get one) I cant get it to copy and paste – my fingers havent quite figgered it out yet. Happens by accident.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Granny, I was talking to a firefighter from CalFire and he confirmed it as a credible threat. They have seen the Dept of Forestry Fire Dept increase it’s numbers of full time increase by 10% and part time/seasonal almost increase by 25% over the last couple years.

      • grannyj says:

        Jar, my bro used to work for the DOF fighting fires – he was on the big one a few years ago in Yellowstone – prayed daily for him…what devistation…he worked crews of those seasonal/volunteers/pt timers. He taught me some things to watch for with my woods. Love my bro.

        So Cal with all it’s canyons is a horrible place to fight fires – hope that things will remain calm – will be praying that it will be so!

  26. Prep Now says:

    Found an old Walmart gift card in a desk drawer. We have no idea when we got it, but it had $100 on it still. Will be getting some more .223 and .380 ammo this weekend.
    Put out more bush beans, getting our Walton feed order Wed-Thur next week.
    Put out some zucchini squash, more cukes, corn is about 2ft now, lots of cukes and peppers are setting, sprayed all the citrus and veggies for bugs, tomato and lettuce season is over so we have 2 beds to fill with pole beans now.
    White Flies are eating the crap out of the plants. Armadillos keep digging up the recent planted beds as well. B-tards.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Prep now, with the armadillo issue, looks like the ammo on the gift card will come in handy lol.

    • Bam Bam says:

      Prep Now,

      I hate white flies. Every year they get into my Confederate Rose. Does anyone know how to knock them out?

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Bam Bam, plant Union roses instead lol. Have you tried boiled peanuts? Lol, sorry couldn’t help it.

      • DH makes a solution to spray on plants from tobacco. Soak a pouch of tobacco in a quart of boiling water, let cool and strain it, we use old nylons or cheese cloth. Dilute w/3 gallons water and spray on plants. We use it on garden too. We don’t use pesticides as we have honey bees.

        • Mother Earth says:

          Sunny, great tip! We have four hives now and I was concerned about hurting the bees when the pests show up in the garden. Just hoping for a little dry spell now to get it planted.

        • Bam Bam says:


          Thank you. I will try that.

      • Prep Now [ so. fl.] says:

        Yeah, we had to cut out a huge Ficus tree last year because of them.
        Big tree too , about 40 ft tall and 30 ft dia. Still have a 4ft x 4ft stump left to get out.

  27. village idiot says:

    MD, I just noticed Gwyneth P donated you some funds. Is that Gwyneth Paltrow? I hope so, that goes to show you that even people in Hollywood are starting to see the light. And we’re hanging in good company on MD’s blog. LOL. Even if it isn’t the famous Gwyneth P.

  28. More reorganization of the books in the storage room (We own over 7000 books…) so that the science fiction isn’t mixed in with the medieval history and the prepping books … haven’t been able to find a thing lately so that usually means the books have gotten out of control again.
    Weekly Wally-World run – this week’s prepping purchases were related to upping the first aid supplies – gauze pads, antibiotic ointment, hydrogen peroxide, isopropyl alcohol, bandaids, eyeglass repair kits, etc. Also purchased big box of baking soda and 15 pounds of assorted beans.
    Have almost finished up the “list of doom” – everything I can possibly think of for storage/prepping needs. It’ll keep getting minor refinements I’m sure, but it’s pretty complete.
    Continued evaluating books we checked out from the local library on various prepping subjects – hubby is dealing with the “technical” stuff and I’m on all the other stuff.
    Started investigating possible barter items – thought that stockpiling nicorette gum and/or nicorette patches for those forced to quit smoking post-SHTF might not be a bad plan… need to investigate shelf lives.
    Grain mill purchased – a Victorio hand cranked one. I’d love a Country Mill, but we’re not ready to spend the big $$$ for it, so this will be a good “first step” and when I get the Country Mill, we’ll use the Victorio as a backup. (Redundancy is good…).
    Sam’s run – purchased more disenfectant, rice, canned goods, oil, and other goods, most for the stockpile.
    Bought a used easy-glide exercise machine for getting into better shape…
    Lots of gardening. Lettuce bed completely planted, hardened off some seedlings for the main vegetable bed, got the chicken wire fencing up around the main vegetable bed and started planting in it. Onions and tomatoes so far, more to come in the next week or so.
    Finished up fence for side paddock for the hay-burners. Just need to get the gate built and hung and it’ll be ready to go. The horses will be having equine-gasms when they get into it… haven’t cut the grass in there since last fall so it’s nice and thick and tall. They are still mad that I’m not letting them into the main pasture – they are eating round bales while I try to get the pasture recovered from the drought last year. They are suffering sooo much .. they all look like preggo broodmares from the hay bellies, even the geldings.
    Did some garage sale shopping – bought a real nice cast iron dutch oven never used and an old vintage sewing machine in a cabinet. Appears that the sewing machine is a treadle converted to electric that hubby thinks he can convert back …
    Held a quick garage sale to get rid of some stuff … put the earnings into the emergency cash stash.
    Bought some hops bines and some wild ginger plants at the local garden club plant sales this weekend. Had been hunting for hops for a while…
    Thanks so much to MD for the site, and to everyone else for the sharing of info, it’s a great resource.

    • Victoria, careful or you will have a house full of Preppers, 7k books!

    • Kelekona says:

      Woot for the bibliophile! Last week I read a post-apocalyptic satire which commented on how tobacco was the first luxury crop to be available after the incident.

      I’m wondering how hard it would be to convert a cheap fully-mechanical sewing machine into a treadle system. I have a White-brand basic, and my mother’s fancy 70’s singer is supposed to be a gift to me as soon as it’s repaired. (Or I could pick up the $35 copy if it’s still in the store where I found it and have two machines with hopefully different problems.)

      • We’ll keep everyone informed on the great-convert-the-sewing-machine project… it was a cabinet model so I basically paid for the cabinet and the machine was a “freebie”. Hubby thinks he can do it pretty easy so he now has a project for fall/winter. Okay, so he now has ANOTHER project for fall/winter…

  29. recoveringidiot says:

    Work and illness ran me down this week. Didn’t drive as much and that was a small blessing. I had a small bout with vertigo, wouldn’t wish that on anybody! Thank God it went by quick. I did pick up a few items to replace what I used out of the pantry and found a few needed items at a gun show this morning. What a crowd! I can barely stand to be in a bunch that big. Looks like a lot of people are buying because they think Obummer will be reelected then executive order away the 2nd amendment, they may be right. I did get some of my fishing gear fixed up and made a fish trap with some hardware cloth. I’m running a test with that this weekend in a pond that’s covered in duck weed. I know there are fish in it and the weed will hide my trap from anybody that happens by. Not many even try to fish it because of the duck weed. I hope that it will provide bait to use for bigger fish and if I’m hungry enough I’ll eat the bait:D
    Hope everyone has a great week.

  30. george says:

    Don’t know if any of the pack has noticed but a few years ago in my small town there were only 5-10 yard sale listings in the paper during good weather, and now there are sometimes up to 30-40 in a small town of 9000. It just amazes me how many people are hurting and trying to get any extra money they can.
    I hit some sales and got a few metal washtubs and buckets and found a widow who’s husband was a woodworker and she had a box of about 15 2’x2′ picture frames that were not put together and I got them for $5. I am going to use them for trays for my solar dehydrator just have to glue and staple them together with some screen.
    Got pork loin and sirloin tip roast on sale so decided to try canning meat this week. Canned up six half pints of each and put just salt in one and then added some herbs in one and them put garlic seasoning and a small hot pepper in one. One of the beef that had herbs in it didn’t seal so had it for dinner over egg noodles and it was really good. Can’t wait to try the pork with the pepper on a sandwich this week end. Looks like I will get some more and start canning up so more in pints and quarts for storage. Like the half pints also for just one person.
    Found a 700 watt inverter on sale for $39 so got it to try out with an old car battery I had to see how it works. Charged the battery up and then played around hooking things up, ran a fan, and some power tools and small 13″ tv just fine. Looks like I am going to wait for a 1500 watt or higher to go on sale and will then get a couple more deep cycle batteries and a small solar panel kit for a good silent generator type set-up. Really want some thing to run the frezzer and fridge if power is out for a while or shtf. The solar setup can be done for cheaper than my ultimate goal of a propane or kerosene fridge, freezer when I finally get my homestead property.
    I also really like the daily misc. post M.D. give us all something to think and comment on all week. The more discussion and trading of ideas and opinions the better off we will all be.
    Gotta go mow the lawn now , don’t and can’t have any goats here!

  31. AZ Rookie Prepper says:

    MD, good stuff going on here with your blog. Keep it up. Havent written in awhile, been super busy. Lets see…scored a free bbq tool kit by participating in a charity fund raiser. Will put that to good use. Also picked up 3 insulated bags, 3 regular bags and 3 rolls of paper towels for whatever purposes needed at the same event. Planted two einset grape vines, hope to have some grapes later this summer for jelly and fresh eating. Have lots of squash (both summer and winter) coming up and lots of cucumber plants coming up. Green beans are slow this year, may have to redo those. Did lots of research on medical uses of hibiscus flowers. Those are real nice looking and are a good source of vitamin C. Added a bunch of spices to the larder. I’m also attempting to grow lemon grass (in a pot) for its culinary and medicinal uses. We shall see how that goes. Added bandages and hydrogen peroxide and tape to the medical storage. Stored a few more bottles of water away too. Hope all have a good prep week, I somehow feel this year is gonna be a rough one.

  32. cosmolined says:

    Thanks M.D. for this blog!
    I made a Costco run and bought 12 packs of chicken breasts, chicken tenderloins and a 9 pack of thick pork chops. (Meat is up 50% here from the last time I bought it!!!) Vacuum packed and froze them. Also an 8 pack of diced tomatoes, tomato sauce and pinto beans, a 52 count instant oatmeal variety,20 pounds of rice and 3 pounds of coffee.
    For weps, I bought DeSantis double mag pouches for my .45, Glock 36, Glock 27, and a FOBUS double mag for my Glock 30.
    The earthquakes seem to be hitting this side of the Pacific now, so I’m “a bit” nervous. God Bless the Pack. Cos

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Cosmo, I have slept through every earthquake that reportedly occurred. My luck I guess

      • d2 Prep says:

        Hey now Cos and Jarhead, with my “CERT” training I am officially qualified (well halfway through) to drive down to L.A. to provide assistance in the event of an earthquake. I only charge in 12 oz. cans of liquid gold!

        • cosmolined says:

          I am State Certified as a first responder. We should have coffee sometime. God Bless, Cos

        • Jarhead 03 says:

          D2 and Cosmo same here. With my job I’m obligated and mandated by state and federal law to go to work in the event of an emergency such as earthquake, riot or other disasters.

          Saw someone complain a while back that this is something new that the POTUS signed into EO but it’s always been there through Federal and State mandate for certain companies/inteties to operate during emergencies and disasters.

          • d2 Prep says:

            Cos and Jarhead, will definitely set up a coffee when I am down there. For Opsec, you can get my e-mail from M.D. . Stay safe.

  33. Hunker-Down says:

    I just got back from my first lesson with the 9 iron.
    The first round just worked out some sighting issues.
    At the end, I did four double taps and whacked out a divot about the size of an old Ike dollar! Beginners luck, but I’m pumped!

    Oh, the hole was about 25 feet from the tee.

    • AZ Rookie Prepper says:

      Hunker-Down, I’ld say you were playing better than “bogie” golf..LOL…

      • Hunker-Down says:


        Now I’m saving for a lesson with that bag of 12 clubs.

        • AZ Rookie Prepper says:

          H-D, I’ve just about given up on the bag of 12, the way I figure it, they might make good clubs for zombies whacking. Guess I have too much farmer in me because I end up just ploughing the turf when I swing one of the 12. Now a 9 iron, I can relate to that one. Hope your game continues to go well.

    • riverrider says:

      hd, so you were about par for the course;)

  34. MtWoman says:

    Well, very little to report this week. Been too busy with sundry things to focus much on prepping. But I guess this couple of things is sorta prepping:

    -I harvested the wild arugula that’s been growing in the parking area by the house, and dehydrated the leaves. It’s an experiment to see if I can use it that way. I love the taste of arugula, and think maybe some dried leaves sprinkled on a salad might be ok. I’ll post a follow up when I try it.

    -while in The Big City awhile back, I walked through a World Market store just for kicks. I passed a fellow who was unwrapping some big piece of furniture. The wrapping was a gi-normous piece of silver-backed bubble wrap. I asked if I could have it, and he gave it to me. I bundled it up and skedaddled out of the store…with many eyes following me. Here’s the thing: I see so many uses for it: emergency blankets; window insulation (where one small piece of it is right now); and possibly even to use to make a solar oven. I am so glad my father taught me how to ‘scrounge’, and not be embarrassed by it. I get some great things that way!

    -garden: planted some radishes, and they’re already up. So now, this is what’s growing: chard, radishes, zucchini, yellow squash, pole beans, garlic, corn, cilantro, parsley, potatoes, basil, garlic chives, spearmint & peppermint( they’re growing back from the insect attack), and sunflowers. We had a good rain last night, thank goodness. Our water pressure has been low for 3 days…NOT a good sign in dry weather!!

    -contacted all the folks who have let me pick fruit in exchange for some in years past, and got a positive on all. Also drove around and checked the wild patches of plums, grapes and prickly pears to see if I might get some of those. If, and that’s a BIG if, we don’t have a very dry time of it the next couple of months, there will be a lot of fruit for canning!! I’m stoked about that. If it all comes through, this is what I’ll have to work with: figs, plums (both wild and grown), peaches, blackberries, wild Mustang Grapes, pears, prickly pear, and some veges. Yay! I’m starting to look for deals on jars now, as well as pass the word that I need them.

    That’s it folks! Thanks MD for this blog, and keep on prepping, keep on prepping everyone, and let’s keep LOVE in our hearts.

    • Hunker-Down says:


      Hey scroungy…way to go!!

      • MtWoman says:

        LOL…used to have a feral/adopted cat named “Scroungy”. The cat had one ear, many scars, and a bad eye, so we didn’t name him “Lucky”. 🙂

        • Survivor says:

          We used to have a one-eyed cat. One day a four year old friend of the family came over for the first time and alerted me to the fact the cat’s eye was missing. I had him down on all fours busy looking for that cats eye for better than an hour. After that he was telling everyone to be careful where they walked. Good fun!!!

          • MtWoman says:

            That’s funny Survivor. One time I went to dinner at a friend’s house. She was standing at the end of the wood stove, looking behind it and yelling: “Com’n dammit. Dammit, com’n.” Suddenly a pot-bellied pig came out from behind the stove. She told me its name was “Dammit”. 🙂

    • Lantana says:

      MtWoman, I’ve heard tell of folks using dried arugula in place of dried basil; not the same flavor, but adds a peppery note.

    • alikaat says:

      Hi Mt Woman-
      Sounds like you had a good week and secured a lot of good resources for canning this season. Looks like it will be a good thing to get as much up as possible this year… there may be a lot more people looking to use them by next year if things keep going the way they are.
      Yummy… love homemade canned fruits!

      • MtWoman says:

        Yup Cat…and *I’ll* be the one probably looking to use them!! I added two more resources for peaches today!! Yay.

  35. robert in mid michigan says:

    well i only have one prep that really matters at this time. i got myself a real job, no more temp service work yeah. its less than half what i used to make way back in 2009, but its a couple bucks more an hour than the temp service thing. so no longer have to call every friday and hope they have work on monday. no overtime rite now but they say come june it will hit and will be working 50-60 hours. yes i am excited in the last 25 years i have had 3 jobs 2 cunstruction, 1 over the road not used to not having a real job.

    other than that starting to pull radishes and lettuce from the garden. turned the tomatoe patch and they are waiting two more weeks before they go in the ground. started 6 more 5 gallon self watering containers with taters, carrots. making 16 more of these containers for cukes, tomatoes, eggplant and possibly beans.

    i cant feed my family from the garden but i can reduce what i have to pay out. one quick question for the pack i have an underground pest that has decided he likes my garlic and onions (so far) i have a couple of the spike traps out but i havnt got him yet. any suggestions on how to get rid of it. i think its after the worms because thier are a ton of them in the garden from all the cardboard and compost i have added. he doesnt eat the garlic and onions just digs them up or they drop into his hole?

  36. Michigan Bob says:

    Best couple of weeks in our prepper history. Closed on our 7 acre forest “retreat” with 600′ of frontage on a nice fast moving creek, bought and had delivered a little 160 sq. foot “shed” with loft, built by the Amish in our neighborhood. Had the county inspect our electrical service on the property. We delivered tools and some supplies to our new bug out location and cut a bit of firewood to begin a wood supply/OP area.

    On the smaller side ordered and received 6 #10 cans (2 wheat, 2 rice, 1 pinto bean & 1 oatmeal) from the LDS online folks. I love the 30 year shelf life. We also vacuumed sealed some dried milk using the canning jar method with the brake vacuum pump. Worked great!

  37. Prudent says:

    Good afternoon folks. Spent alot of time Youtubing skills videos, form fish cleaning to rocket stoves. Lot of depressing vids out there… Beck’s WWIII is one of em. The Knoxville car jacking story is by farrrr the worst. Talk about getting folks all worked up… scary class warfare.. bait the masses, right or wrongly.

    Put in my onions a galic today. Tomatoes and potatos in the morning. Found a PSE 55lb-31″ draw compound on clearance at Bass Pro… It’s mine! 3 doz. carbon shafts with steel field tips, 2 doz “Lil Nasty” broadheads. Worked on baking from scratch… It tastes better than I had hoped. Rotated some of my FD preps to the kitchen. 1 splitting maul and two 2 ft. prybars. 300′ of cordage. 6 double sets of Home Depot ‘Xmas’ season multi tool / folder blades for $5.00 each for the barter shelf. That 12 Stainless multi tools and 12 folder for $30.00. “Chicom” you bet.

    Saw a YouTuber about this fella that takes a standard cheap 24″ flat prybar. Grinds a working edge on one side and then takes old pallet wood and cuts down some handles for it… bolts em on, sands em smooth and stains em…. looks good and lends another function to the bar. Gonna do one and if I can figure out how to import a pic to your site MD… I will.

    Heres to things holding togeather for another year!!! And heres to another year of getting our acts togeather!!!… and maybe another few months of $30 silver…. and one or two more cheap 30 cals. in my safe.

    MD… Question!!! what is the recipe for your ‘scout rifle’ i.e. model, forward glass mounts, glass, etc.??

    Keep stacking it fellow travellers………..

  38. Canadagal says:

    Hello to all you inspiring people.It is great to hear what everyone is doing and to see how you appreciate the info people present. I too want to say thank you to all of you for being such a helpful and compassionate group. A special thanks to our great host who makes this all possible.

    Things accomplished in the past 2 weeks. Well it was pretty hectic around here as my 1st Priority was the income tax & that was much more complicated than usual because of some things we closed and other things we sold. Then when my husband hit send the program quit working & it took him a couple of late night to get it going again…all’s well that ends well though and as a bonus we didn’t have to pay as much tax as we thought we would have to. More money for preps!!! While I was putting the files away I decided to completely clean out one 4 drawer filing cabinet and started on the 2nd one. One collect a lot of paper over the years that needs to go.

    Other things include more firewood cut & split, tractor parts came in and they are slowly being put in. My dh has big hands and one needs small hands to get into this part of the tractor. Most of my tomatoes have been potted up,, cabbage, cauliflower, and broccoli are up except blue cabbage has not showed yet, 1st batch of flowers are up and 2nd batch was just planted a couple of days ago. DH also brought up the glads, dahlias and some potatoes to start growing. My but our greenhouse is ful. Since we had such an early spring, I thought I’d be in the garden by now. No such luck…a few warm days and then a few close to freezing again. Oh well time to get some house stuff done. The asparagus is just starting to poke up but it has been cool enough it is not very big yet but my dh got the weeds sprayed just in time as there was already 2 shoots up but he covered them.

    what did we buy? 10 balls of wool @ 2nd hand store,
    12 400gm jars of Ovaltine
    3 4oz. jars garlic
    4 kg salt
    4 boxes baking soda
    1 box containing 2 hand veg. choppers (2 is 1)
    Zuchinni cookbook & thezuchinni /pineapple
    loaf is awsome
    22lb flour
    3 tubes tooth paste & 12 toothbrushes

    Lessons learned. 1. 3 is 2, 2 is 1, 1 is 0 I need more than one heater in my green house or things will freeze. I now have 3 heaters for the really cold nights but just use 2 most of the time.
    2 Don’t give up on frozen plants most came back
    3. Plants started in egg shells ( I read about doing this) must be watered every day or they die but I didn’t give up on them either and while they did die 2 extra seeds that must have been there did grow & so are ahead of the next seeds I started.

    Have a great week wolf pack & hope I can report on planting direct into the garden next time we speak.

  39. Last weekend I canned 21 pints of salsa, 8 pints of ham, 7 pints of veggie soup made with leftovers, 5 half pints of bacon grease and 9 half pints of yellow wax beans with new potatoes (single servings!). Went to the thrift stores today and found a coffee grinder to use for my herbs and a box full of canning jars. At the grocery store I used their store coupons and got 4 lbs sugar, 2 boxes mac & cheese, 3 boxes cornbread mix all for free or nearly so. At Dollar General I picked up some Dinty Moore Beef Stew, 2 boxes of individual serving mac & cheese, 2 instant mashed potato packs, 2 large cans baked beans, 2 large cans refried beans, 2 can corned beef hash and 2 cans spam. This is all for my prep stores.
    I made some citrus vinegar cleanser/air freshener and it was ready to use this week, wonderful stuff!

    • Great job! You have been a busy girl. I just love how you all motivate me.

  40. Met with some local Preppers, hosted a prepper meeting close to my parents house. Been making plans to go North, sell off much of the crap that I have left, sell 80% of the business stuff off too. Focus on two important related business streams and dump the rest.

    Wrote a review for the Blog, mentioned Lint! Miss Lint! where is BC Trucker as well?
    not much else besides laptop issues, getting sick, hurt my arm so working is harder.
    Lost another Fav Uncle, I feel sorry for my Aunt more than anything really. My cousin her son died in the fall, my Nanny, who she was helping out died at Xmas and now her Husband, plus she had surgery last summer. All in less than a year, they do not make them like that anymore!
    cheers to all the 60ish Women and Men on the blog

  41. This week I finally hauled my butt to karate (twice) after a couple months of almost nothing. I bought a pair of fancy support running sneaks so I can start jogging even with my weak ankles, and get more cardio into my PT that way. I’d like to work up to 5 miles. I’ll settle for 50 yards for the time being. We’ll see how it goes. I’m feeling really guilty about buying fancy shoes, it could have been ammo. Oh well.

    My squash that I planted twice in March and gave up on is coming up. Must put some corn in again, it’s probably far enough along in the spring for it to work this time. My radishes are getting really big. The arugula and lettuce is a carpet. I’ve been thinning it out and eating salad daily. The amaranth is now about 6-8 inches high.

    There is supposed to be a really big full moon tonight. Perigee, apogee, szyzygy, can’t remember which.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Penny, have you considered a bike or look online for ankle strengthening exercises like ankle/foot rotations etc until they build up some resistance.

      • I have a 1980’s era 10-speed bike but the tires are some weird size that’s unavailable and they’re pretty old/almost cracked. I also have a 1-speed Schwinn with a kick brake that weighs a ton and has a bad tire. Probably 1960’s vintage. Need to get to this one bike shop that might be able to find these rare tires. The 1-speed will probably hurt my bad knee, I’ve got more hope for the 10-speed. Also, I live on a second floor, so I’d have to figure out how to store my bike up on the wall near the front door, or I’d be humping it up and down a flight of stairs all the time.

        What’s wrong with my feet is they pronate, and they also go pigeon toed when I’m not paying attention. Pigeon toed is ok for karate but looks dumb in public. I’m not sure if exercises will help this but I could do ankle rotations for the sake of argument. Also, my left arch is a lot lower than my right arch, and one of my legs is about 1/4 inch longer than the other. I have suffered from sciatica and a torn meniscus in the past, but am mostly healed up. So I figured the fancy support sneaks were a must if I was going to run.

        If running doesn’t work, I’ll either just do more karate (always a good idea anyway) or more calisthenics. I dunno, there may soon come a time when joggers aren’t allowed out on the street, or it’ll be too dangerous. I may have wasted my money. But you never know until you try, right?

        • Jarhead 03 says:

          Penny, maybe speak to a physical therapist or personal trainer at a gym and see if they can give you some tips. I found ways of working out and training with a knee injury or when the back isn’t wanting to cooperate until I get to the chiropractor.

        • Bam Bam says:


          Why not do a walking program, at least at first? That would help strengthen your ankles. I have terrible ankles. I went to a physical therapist and he recommended orthotics. I have the Quadra Step brand. I paid $75 for the orthotics and the therapist’s visit. That has paid off because now I wear my shoes evenly. Before I used to wear down the outside of my shoes. My running shoes last twice as long.

  42. tommy2rs says:

    Been sidelined by an eye infection that caused a great light sensitivity. More inconvenient than anything else so we spent the time on teaching The Boss (DW…lol) how to break down, reassemble and clean all the firearms. Her idea too. Now if I could only convince her that the scent of Hoppe’s No. 9 is an aphrodisiac…lol.

    Eye’s about cleared up, depth perception is still off so no driving yet but should be good to go by the time it cools off next week. Got a lot of work to catch up on.

  43. Today’s books were up earlier this morning but I’ve been playing soccer mom/host of out-of-town guests, so I’m sorry! (MD I am still writing you an email.)


    Hope you enjoy!

    I vacuum sealed 4 pints of almonds and 2 came unsealed the next day. I used the extra lid too. I forgot the tip about the black seal thing, will try that next.

    Has anyone tried dehydrating their own potato powder? Would I do that from cooked mashed potatoes? I’m sure I can search online but it would be nice to get straight from the “horse’s mouth,” carries more weight, you know. Thanks!

    • Online instructions I saw on dehydrating potatoes say to boil them with the skins on, then get them totally cold (preserves color), grate them into hash browns, spread them on the dehydrator, and dry them out.

      Restaurant Depot sells #10 cans of dehydrated potatoes for relatively cheap, if you don’t want to bother with the labor. But if you’re raising potatoes that’s another story.

      • Prepper RN says:

        Penny Pincher,
        Restaurant Depot near me will only sell to restaurants, food service and non profits. I just checked their website, it is too bad as it would be a treause trove for me, I think.

        • Bam Bam says:

          Prepper RN,

          Don’t use know someone who owns his own business or someone from church or a local charity? All you need is the tax exempt code.

          • Prepper RN says:

            Bam Bam,
            Sorry to say that I do not. I am a nurse who rarely even goes to a restaurant. At this point I do not want to start putting out feelers to anyone for OP SEC reasons.
            I still do great with my local stores, coupons and sales and an occasional trip to a LDS cannery that is 70 miles from me.

      • grannyj says:

        Penny pincher – another way is to buy the frozen hashbrowns and dehydrate them – dehydrate2store.com has a video about it.

        I go to my restaurant supply and buy the big 25 lb box and dehydrate them and then vac seal. Can portion them for each meal and also for camp outs etc. But dont know about dehydrating and making into powder but know that it has been done for tomato powder.

      • Response to all of you (Penny Pincher, Prepper RN, and Grannyj)

        A local liquidator store once had a bunch of cans of potato flakes that were just potato, I bought them all but that was all they had, I don’t know where to get more. The warehouse store has containers of instant mashed potatoes but it’s full of icky additives, tons of them! I don’t have a Costco membership but maybe could visit and take a look.

        I like the idea of buying the hash browns and dehydrating them, but they are way way more expensive than potatoes by pound, and also they are partly fried and I don’t know how those oils would hold up long term (plus most of the ones I’ve seen have MSG added). Grannyj, what’s been your experience with the oils, eg, have you noted how long they will last before going rancid? It’s really helpful to know that that would work, because I have heard of baking, chopping, and freezing potatoes for homemade frozen hash browns, so if the bought ones work, why wouldn’t those, right? Worth a try.

        I also don’t know of any restaurant suppliers around here willing to sell to the public, and I don’t know any restaurant owners, or I would have been all over that years ago. Maybe I need to pursue that more. Any Canadians here who have done that?

    • Surviving in Ky. says:

      Peel the potatoes first. You can then slice them or grate them. Keep everything in water until you are ready to blanch (boil) them, this will help preserve the the color. Allow water to come to a boil and then add the potatoes. Let them boil for 3 minutes and then remove and immediately drain and pour them into cold water. This will stop the cooking process. You can then put them in the dehydrator and leave for 6-8 hour. Be sure to let boil for 3 minutes or the potatoes will turn black shortly after putting them in the dehydrator (learned from experience)lol. Hope this helps.

      • Thank you so much! I’m saving those instructions, looking forward to giving it a go.

        What’s your preferred method of saving them after you’ve dried them? Vacuum sealed bags?

        • Surviving in Ky. says:

          I’ve started putting them in quart jars with 100 cc oxygen obsorbers. Learned this from a friend who has dehydrated several different items. The jars seal just like pressure canning. Another key to preserving dried vegetables and fruits is to keep them in a dark and dry place as any other food storage. I would recommend getting a good dehydrator. I purchased an excalibur but they are a little pricy but well worth saving for. They come with a book with complete instructions that will help getting started or learning something new. Good luck and let me know how it goes. I want to offer a prayer for the pack and our nation as a whole.

  44. JP in MT says:

    Well we’re at another gun show. So far so good. Met my sale goals on Friday then again on Sat. So far have sold some extra stuff that I’ve been acquiring that have been deemed excess to my needs. Owned some money back to myself on some funds I put out, and brought enough funds home to get me another order from EE (about 6.5 cases of food stuff that is on sale, along with another 5 gal jug, a ‘Mobile Washer’, and 2 cans of powdered vanilla), with some left for debt reduction/savings/inventory.

    I picked up a used 30-06 and another spare 9mm. I also got a box of old Super X 158gr 357 Mag ‘Metal Piercing’ ammo. Should work great in my 357 rifle. I also picked up 1000 45 ACP Grade 3 brass for reloading. .

    These is a lot of volume running through the show so far, and the major ammo people are not there! Everything from handguns, varmint guns, shotguns (tactical mostly), PM’s, Hunting, and Semi-Auto rifles seem to be going out in a steady stream. My show partner even sold a crossbow he had that was excess. I’ve moved more rifle scopes than I have in 6 months.

    I didn’t see any “panic” buying, but there sure are a lot of people spending, and prices are only ‘fair’. We even took a couple of guns on trade that we would like to keep but at this point if I get my pound price, I’ll let them go.

    I would rate this as a small Montana show, 50-70 tables (we had extras so I got a free table). And with the sales that are going, most everybody is in a good mood.

    This week we got another set of shelves up into the garage (2 more to go), and got the canning jars out of the pantry so we can put more food.

    Last Months EE order is due in on Monday. Picked up 2×100 rnd boxes of Winchester 22LR Power Points and 1×10 rnd of 38 shot shells.

    Picked up 100 lbs of Calrose Rice, 25 Lbs of Pinto Beans, 25 Lbs of sugar, and a jar of instant coffee.

    So things are looking up around here; preps are heading on the right track and the funds are around for adding things I couldn’t get this weekend.

    I haven’t paid much attention to the news but I did think it’s funny that Holder is sitting in front of Congress (and the truth is not in him) and Roger Clements is being retried for lying to Congress. And it looks like Clements is doing better than Holder.

    • cosmolined says:

      I’m from Sheridan, WY. Been in Kalifornia for 23 years. How are the property values in your area? TIA, Cos

      • JP in MT says:


        Property values were going up, but flattened out in 2008, just were not moving. Since our economy only dropped a little things just went on hold. I still have a little less than 2 years on the mortgage, and I don’t want to loose a deal because I have to wait until my house sells. So we really haven’t looked hard.

        ‘Course you don’t move to Montana for the financial opportunities. A friend calls it “Poverty with a View”. Bozeman (one of our college/liberal towns) turns over 100% in population about every 5 years. Kalispell is just starting to recover from the 2008 bust (too many from Kali).

        Montana is one of the better places I’ve lived in for the quality of the locals. Great people who still look out for each other. The real problem for people moving here is they come with “big city” debt, and the incomes around here just won’t support it. So if you are grounded in conservative fiscal values and are debt free (or with very little debt) and want a life style that is just a little slower than you’ll find on either coast, this is a great place to relocate (PS bring your “winter woolies” though).

        • cosmolined says:

          Thanks for the response. Sheridan is only 13 miles South of the Montana state line. I think I can handle the weather! My finances are in order and I know I can’t come there and ask $25/hour ROTFL! God Bless!, Cos

          • JP in MT says:

            Drop me a email line through M.D. if you decide to move. I’ll buy you lunch at Cracker Barrel in Billings.

    • JP in MT says:

      Sunday was another good day at the gun show for us. I’ll end up paying for about 10 cases of long term storage food (just made a 2nd EE order), 2 new-to-me guns, and some brass for reloading. Managed to find nothing really interesting that I forgot I needed.

      The rest will go for some gifting, an annual bill that just came in, and some savings/debt reduction. We are VERY pleased with how things went.

      That plus I got to spend 3 days with my bride (always a great thing)!

  45. Soggy Prepper says:

    This week I got the garden in. I planted my red onion sets, peas, lettuce, radish and some herbs; tarragon, sage, rosemary and spearmint. I’m not sure if the seeds will come up though because of all the seriously harsh downpours we’ve had all week. I’m thinking they may have molded. The next week is supposed to be dry so I will go poke around a bit to see if I have to re-plant or not.

    I also got my semi-dwarf gala apple planted. I will get a couple zucchini, bell pepper and cucumbers in tomorrow. I’m cheating on those and planting plants not seeds.

    I picked up my Zaycon chicken breast and bacon. mmmmmm, bacon. So the 30lbs of bacon was vacuum sealed and frozen. Some breasts frozen and I canned 15 pints of chicken. I decided I need a bigger canner. I have an 8 quart, it hold 5 pints or 4 quarts. Yes it does suck to have to do large quantities of canning. DH told me to just get a big one. Especially since the parts for mine are pretty much not available. I had to replace the seal, but the safety plug is harder to find. It’s about 15 years old.

    Our printer died. I gave it a few final “technical taps” and it quit working. weird. It was near 7 years old, guess it was about time. So we have a beautiful new one that actually prints! and prints with color! So I printed a ton of info and recipes for my survival cookbook and notebook. I even used color on a couple of the pages, I’m big time!

    Oldest DD (22) got her concealed carry permit. She’s going to be helping process firewood with us this summer to earn a pistol. She wants it for when she jogs. DH wants her to shoot with him more until he feels she’s safe. That makes me feel better too. So that was exciting.

    Today, not so much a prep, the family traveled a couple hours to the Special Olympics swimming regionals. Our son (15), DS, took first in one of his events and third in the other. He got a couple medals and was pretty excited about that! Then we stopped at the German store on the way back and got some fleishsalat, lundjager and pretzel rolls mmmmmmm. Having German sausage with caramelized onion, sauerkraut and spaetzel for dinner.

    News is horrible. I won’t even rant on it. There just isn’t anything good to say.
    Keep prepping, it isn’t going to get better any time soon, and time will run out.

    • Prepper RN says:

      Congrats to your Son. Glad to hear some good news. Nice that your daughter is doing so well motivated with the gun/practice. I would say a very good week for you. Blessings.

  46. Kelekona says:

    Very little positive prepping going on, probably a step back.

    Oh gawd I am so over renting. They chased us out because delays would be inconvenient to their system, and yet there often weren’t contractors around when I came to feed the fish. (Glad we have cheap fish, they seem to have turned off the AC and one fish seems to be suffering from heat stroke.) We spent well over a week in the guest suite and I hate being a true minimalist. I got home and wanted to roll around in the stuff, much to Mr. Euphemism’s giggles.

    (We do need less stuff, but that was one step up from not owning a proper couch. We had couches, and a dining room, but I wanted an office chair so bad. And OMG I hate my laptop that has a huge battery life because it’s one step down from a glorified smartphone, I wish he had sent me a replacement fan for my 2003-style IBM, or one of several other options .)

    They trashed our house with all the random bits being stuck anyplace that wasn’t in their way. Since the front door had been left unlocked, the piles were a good indicator that thieves hadn’t checked out our good stuff. Hubby can’t understand the purpose behind me filling the kitty litter containers full of water, and I think I’m going to just recycle them and start from scratch since “There might not be water to flush the toilet” seems lame since I’ve been through two concerning hurricanes in two years and I haven’t found any water shortage.

    And how do the “shop every three days” people live? Perhaps it was the “they should be done by now so I’m not buying food just to move it” attitude, but I do not shop and cook within hours of each other and we got sick because I didn’t have the pantry and freezer access that I wanted and was buying pre-fab garbage. (I blame the frozen lasagna and frozen pizza on hubby, but also agree that those were reasonable purchases. I bought 2.5 serving cheap chinese dishes complete after nuking 10 minutes.)

    BTW, I think it was Shoreline brand chili, we tried to make chili mac with roasted chicken breast and poultry sausages and a can of tomato, it added taste but wasn’t outstanding. Three servings of the chili mix in a one-can beans-and-rice-with mexican can-of-tomato was decenter than without.

    We found a house to make an offer on. Still in the worst place to be prepper-wise, but fantastic for the American dream minus kids. We’re looking in a sweet spot price range for investors that want to make rental properties, apparently, but at least we found someplace that was worth pouncing on. (1940’s house that doesn’t feel that old, vs 25,000 less for a place in a less prestigious neighborhood and where we would demand that the sellers rip out all carpeting before us setting foot in it again.)

    We bought cheap steaks because we were driving past Sam’s Club anyway and needed kitty litter, but that is the last red meat we are having for a while since the freezer is full of pork and some chicken and I want to eat down rather than transport stores. More grocery money for after we build food storage.

  47. pjwilly says:

    Hi All Got the chicken coop today, chicks are due around the 20th. We cant wait. Did some more work in the garden also joined the sams club that just opened near us we liked it better than BJ’s. Thats about it God Bless to all.

  48. connie says:

    I’m worse than a yankee .I,m a Californian. But I must have plenty of common sense, because I married a southern boy. Hey Bam Bam I saw an article online about someone using restaurant fryer grease to make soap. Apparently it traces quicker because the grease is already broken down.She gives clear instructions on how to clean the grease and make the soap.I’ve been saving our fryer grease at home but I haven’t tried it yet.Buy the way the VA is offering tetanus shots that have the pertussis vaccine in it,so any vets out there might want to ask for this.Whooping cough has been making a come back,better to be prepared for it.

    • Bam Bam says:


      Thanks. I must have read the same article. It said that the fryer grease traces quicker because the proteins have already broken down.

  49. Good Evening,

    For preps this week purchased 12 bars soaps, 1 gallon dish=washing liquid and 1 jar of soap powder. Trying a new soap powder I heard about, Charlie’s Soap, good ingredients, made in USA and you use a tablespoon per load, they offer a 5 gallon bucket size. I made our laundry detergent for a year but wasn’t happy with how it cleaned. Whites were dingy and I don’t like using too much bleach. If SHTF I at least have the skill and supplies to make more. I am inspired by others though to try making bar soap again though. I agree the store bought stuff is too harsh. We can always use the store bought stuff in storage as barter and keep the good stuff for us.

    DH stopped by Harbor Freight and picked up another tarp and a winch. He also straightened up the storage closet. I can see I need to do some restocking.

    Today we bought a new rooster and three more hens. Back up to eight girls again. Hopefully they won’t kill each other tomorrow. The rooster is 3 years old so far he’s done a good job of breaking up any disagreements.

    Have a good week.

    • Bam Bam says:


      When washing whites with homemade laundry soap, add a teaspoon of oxyclean. That takes care of the dinginess.

  50. Kelekona says:

    One thing that has been pervasive over the years is that a sack of rags is very comfortable. In our first married house, I preferred lying on the “threadbare bed-sheet wrapped around the pile of old clothing that I intend to make into up-cycled purses” rather than the more framework furniture. Granted, the best alternative was a badly-placed couch that was probably older than I was and that I threw out a year later, and I felt sorry for whoever grabbed it off the curb. (The same thing had happened to its mate, that had never left my mother’s possession until it hit the curb six months before I decided to part with my half of the set.) Honestly, I’m sure DH’s brother was happy to help with buying that stupid uncomfortable couch, he declared it more comfortable than the old one.

    For those who are rag-saving, enough rags to make a mattress is double-duty. Don’t spend money on this prep.

  51. Took dw and dd camping this week, no biggie just 3 days. They both had some luck at catching catfish. Dw wanted to learn how to clean/fillet them so we showed her. Today went out again and caught some more. With previous catch and todays had enough for supper tonight. Dw cleaned what was caught and did a great job of it. She topped it off by cooking an excellent supper with the catch. Thumbs up to dw!

    • Frank…good to hear you are getting out there and having a go at living outdoors 24/7 (even if it was only for 3days- still good). cheers.

  52. Cold Warrior says:

    Planted first tomato in our garden, onions are coming up. Still working on my plans for inside the house storm shelter. Both my new apple, and one pear trees going well. None of my Plums set this year due to late MN frost so no plum jam this year.
    Looking at getting a deer rifle in 30-06 caliber, maybe a savage 110 or remington 700?

    • axelsteve says:

      Maybe get the Marlin xl7. Great rifle especialy for the money.You can get it in evil black. Cammo. or wood stock and you can get it in blue steel or stainless.Put a sling and a decent scope and there ya go.You can also get a bipod a lazer and toothpick dispenser if that is what you are into.

  53. I practiced lashing bamboo together to make a frame for a tarp lean to. Also lashed together more bamboo to make a tripod water bowl stand for my dog. Use to lash wood when I was a boy scout way back when so brushing up on that bushcraft item was a plus. Bought two more butane lighters for my pocket and mint tin survival kit that I’m working on.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      SL, bamboo can be fun and your ability to work with it is lited to your imagination. I’ve made many shelters, swamp/jungle raised beds, weapons and even a raft. I have a walking/survival walking stick where the top portion is cut open and I have matches, a pen light, a small single blade swiss army knife, fishing line, hooks and nails. The bottom has a rubber cap and is reinforced were I can use it as a spearing or the base of a lean-to.

  54. Woodstock says:

    hey all. pretty much new to prepping, but have been reading up dilligently over the
    last few months. ive been making an honest attempt to get as many irons into as many fires as possible. what i did to prep this week? got my gutter garden built and planted with assorted herbs and salad greens, also planted ever space my humble patio permits. Ransacked local grocery stores for food grade buckets (and saved a ton of $ doing so), read up on canning, purchased collapsibe water bottles for the whole fam, as well as extra mini pocket knives, a new multi tool, and added to the “seed box” (my daughter was sooo proud that she alphabetized them). really added to the water stores, with eight flats and my brand new 7 gal aquatainer. collected more containers and egg cartons for firestarters from work (working in a kitchen has perks), and probably most importantly applied for my FOID card today. yay! Also added to my food storage, beans and some “fun stuff” for the kids…who am i kidding. i love dots and oatmeal creme pies too. gonna be doing a bigger shop for the pantry next week…most of this one was taken up by my first real foray into gardening. im also looking forward to ordering my mylar bags so i can finally seal up my rice in those new buckets lol!
    well i guess thats it…im by no means a pro at this but me and mine are doin the best we can. take care everyone and GOD BLESS. 😀

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Woodstock welcome to the pack

    • woodstock..welcome…we are all just doing our best too…and get to share our prep journey with like-minded people…how cool is that…and reading your post…looks like you are getting much accomplished….cheers.

  55. Glad to hear from everybody. It’s nice to have someone you can depend on. Got most of the garden in last week and we seemed to hit the rain right. Onions, beets, carrots, peas are all up. Pepper and tomato seedings we set out are all still living. Got corn, pinto beans, pumpkin, summer and winter squash planted last Monday and will be planting cucumbers and watermelon this Monday. With the exception of onion sets and carrot seed, I’m going all non GMO seed this year. Trying to keep all the seed I can. Got my tractor back from the fix it man and started some bush hogging. Went to Big Lots and picked up a dozen packs of Bear Creek fixins. Havn’t tried them yet but I trust the pack. Also picked up some extra peanut butter, noodles and some lemonade mix. The gun show is in town so I’m going to try and pick up some .223 if they have any. Things are not looking any better across the country and especially in DC. Keep you ear to the ground and a set of eyes all around you.
    Keep the Faith

  56. MD – way to go with your exc site.I will get a review out soon on your two books 31 Days and Cheap Retreat
    Exc posts everyone- I enjoy reading them all. This week I purchased some essential oils and yes they are expensive but it takes acres to make one small vial. (ex lavender,oregano) I am focusing now on medical prepping. Reading The Doom and Bloom Survival medicine book.Its very good. Purchasing medical supplies .
    Finally got in a years supply of salt and half the coffee needed. My husband LOVES DARK STRONG COFFEE- instant only so we need 52
    jars of it.
    YES we have fire ext. also.I once had to put out a large tractor fire with one-they work well. Arlene

  57. Thanks for the kind words last week Chloe. Well after being without a job for a week and a half I found a part time job working at a flower nursery…doing something I will enjoy. I’m super excited about that!! It won’t make a lot of money but hopefully enough to pay for insurance. Then I had 2 friends ask me to help them clean houses and picked up a pet sitting job so things this week are definately looking up!

    Now for what did I do to prep? I shot my new gun and other then a hard trigger seems to do well. I’ve been pulling a little since it’s so hard to squeeze. Worked on the garden some more. I was raising a chicken for a neighbor since I had babies and he didn’t. Now, he doesn’t want the chicken back so I’m 2 over limit on how many I’m supposed to have per city law. Oops! Went fishing and tried out our new lanterns. I got a solar shower brand new at a garage sale. It’s perfect and no dry rot or anything wrong with it. Not bad for $2!!

    Hope everyone else had a productive week!

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Katie, I’m not sure what type of firearm it is but most firearms can handle a trigger job to lighten the trigger pull. Ask other gun owners in your area or local web research for a good gunsmith.

      • Thanks Jarhead. I’ll check out the gunsmith that replaced my stock on my .20 after I cracked it.

        • Ms ACW says:

          My DH lightened up the trigger on my Glock 19 and it made a big difference on my groupings on the Zombie target.

    • Katie…thanks…and excellent news…cheers.

  58. Kelekona says:

    One more lesson that I’m not sure I learned this week.

    I decided that I was racist because I kept seeing black people and getting skin-crawlings. Then as I was riding around this week with the hubby, I saw black people that didn’t make my skin crawl, and DH was explaining about how a good amount of black people that are three-steps removed from gang involvement still act like thugs… now I am just confused.

    I think I’ll stick with my policy of ‘If I can’t kick you in the privates and justify it with screaming “too close,” I don’t really have a meaningful notice of you.’

    Black Jesus would have felt my boot if not for a convenient lightpost, but only because then I believed that men who approach hissing girls aren’t to be trusted.

    • robert in mid michigan says:

      not sure about your post, are you proud your a racist? do you think we all are? not sure what your point is. personally to judge a person by the color of thier skin, thier religion or the color of thier eyes is not a good way to live life. judge a person by thier charector and you will be far better off. i have scene white people who scare the hell out of me as much as black, brown and every color out thier every race has the good and the bad.

      god made all of us in his image and seeing as their are more than one color person tells me it does not matter to him, so i have to live my life so that it does not matter to me.

      please do not judge me based on my skin color, instead judge me by what i do and say i can atleast live with that.

      • cosmolined says:

        She has a drinking problem…. God Bless, Cos

      • Kelekona says:

        I’m confused about whether or not I am a racist. Most of the time, I do become a bit afraid, but then there are black people that don’t even ping my radar.

        At least I’m reactive instead of proactive about it.

    • Kelekona
      I think that Racism is a learned thing, a thing that can also be unlearned. Maybe as a Canadian most of us think differently or just maybe I do? I meet people and get a vibe for them, it does not matter about what their skin colour is like, it is the soul. Like Rob in Michigan said, some white people are evil and so are other coloured skin tones.

      I look everyone in the eyes, when you smile or grin at them in a polite way, they open up, their eyes respond and body responds naturally as well. If their eyes smile back great, good people, if not then be wary. Body’s respond the same as eyes, perhaps you need to take some training classes on body indicators and body reactions.

      The best Soldiers and Police watch body and eye movements and reactions, skin tones do not mean anything. Now also consider that sometimes people are just plain having a bad day.

      Here is a true story; First a question;
      + picture a person with lots of tattoos coming towards you when your car is broke down.
      + now picture a person in a suit coming towards you when your car is broke down
      = answer, from the last two years this is my learned response;
      the person with the Tattoos will be polite and offer assistance, the person in the suit will ignore you or make some offhand comment and continue walking away.

      So finally the question is; how did you imagine the outcome of the two types of people approaching you would turn out?
      + Did you picture being robbed?
      + Did you picture being assaulted?
      + Did you picture being helped by the Suite and not by the person with Tattoos?

      Now picture this;
      + a Black or other Non White coming towards you with your car broke down.

      Based on my story above, which is 100% true, will you now think perhaps the person who is Non White will;
      + a. Help you out?
      + b. Rob you?
      + c. Pass you by because you have an angry racist snarl on your face and obvious contempt for anyone Non White?
      + d. Smile and hope for the best?

      ps I can not even begin to understand your Black Jesus comment! Truthfully I do not even want too!

      • Kelekona says:

        The Black Jesus story is actually pretty boring.

        Okay, the scene is downtown Chicago a few hours after everything closed. I’m several strides behind some business guy. Black Jesus is walking up the sidewalk at us, announces “I am Black Jesus” and rubs business guy’s head. I start hissing, and Black Jesus doesn’t seem dissuaded from approaching the crazy bitch. At least he didn’t follow me around the light pole.

        And smiling people creep me out even more.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Kelekona, seriously? You should get help for that issue.

      • Bam Bam says:


        As Jarhead said, please get some help. Racism is a spiritual disease, as is alcoholism.

        • Summer B says:

          That is very sad……Jesus loves us all the same no matter what color you are!!!!! I will be praying for you!

      • Jarhead…Kele could just be pulling all our chains…of course, one can’t be absolutely sure…just saying that’s all…


        • Kelekona says:

          Nah Chloe, I really am a horrible person.

          Being a drunk is the symptom not the problem, though it does remove the “what would a person who possesses tact do” filter. Though there isn’t enough tact in the world to explain what goes on inside my head.

          • Kele…forgive yourself of whatever it was/is that ‘makes you a horrible person’.

            No one judges you…instead posters have offered suggestions for your benefit…it’s up to you –

            don’t waste one more day of a wonderful life – make the best of things from today onwards – dig deep and give it all you have.

            pray for God’s help daily – and I will pray for you as well, just as I pray each day for all pack members – we all have our trials and tribulations…we share them, deal with them, and move on.

            Your life is such a wonderful gift – accept it – work with it – may be surprised at just what you can do if you point yourself in the right direction.

            Everyone has value…you included – believe it, accept it and move strongly – one foot/thought after the other.

            One thought – if you knew you were going to die within the month…what regrets would you have?

            We are not here forever – our time does come to an end…what will be your memories and experiences – painful or joyous?

            Would be a huge shame to have spent years breathing and going through the motions etc, yet not living/enjoying the wonderful life you have had all this time…

            You can walk/talk, all the waterworks/cement works function – can see, smell, touch, appreciate the natural beauty that surrounds up daily, and starts with each sunrise, and ends with yet another beautiful sunset…all gifts freely given to all of us.

            so, no time like the present…because, the reality is…none of us really know for sure when our time here is up either…a day/week/month – years – who knows…and it doesn’t matter – just make the most of each day – one day at a time, just like we all do.

            Be the best that you can be each day/hour/minute that you can. And remember, no one is perfect – cheers.

            And so glad to hear you are not a troll – the thought did make me start laughing – because you would have gotten me good…still chuckling.

          • Schatzie Ohio says:

            Many people use the bottle to bury the pain – It Doesn’t Work. The only thing that works is you must face the pain and walk threw to the other side. VERY hard but the only thing that works. Wishing you all the best.

    • FarmerKin says:


      Let me preface my comments by saying that it’s not in my nature to be mean, so please know I only have the best of wishes for you, and I’m sure the entire Wolf Pack does as well.

      Your incoherent babble is extremely frustrating. I usually have no idea what message you are trying to relay, and don’t know why I keep reading them … I guess I’m just hoping to one day see some improvement in your condition.

      Might I suggest that you put all other preps on hold while you work on the most important prep of all … that being your personal health and well being. Please get some help. There is no amount of prepping in the form of food, water and shelter that will do you any good what-so-ever in a SHTF situation if you are unable to weather a day of “normal” life without the alcohol. If you have any hope of surviving, you really need to conquer this demon.

      Again, please get help and be well.

  59. Sundance WMC says:

    I was looking through Craig’s list and found a 1978 24 foot motorhome. I went and looked at it, drove it, liked it and paid $1600. for it. drove it home. It needs a little bit of this and that, but runs good and pretty much everything works fine. I will need to have the on board generator repaired or replaced, but no big deal. I do plan on installing solar panels and an extra deep cycle battery for the twelve volt needs. Has on board water storage tanks, gray water/black water tanks….bathroom with shower. Propane system….

    I call it the Bug out buggy. Due to the year of manufacture, not a lot of electronics involved. I like it that it is a 350 short block Chevy engine, with a mechanical fuel pump…..

    • robert in mid michigan says:

      grats on the motorhome. i have only one suggestion for you and that is to use it to take the family out for the weekend once you have it up and running. great bug out practice, some great family time and you will see some of the things that it will need in case it ever is called on to do the job it was bought for. how much power do you really have to have in batteries to last a few days. that big water filter you built although nice has to be taken apart and the buckets hold stuff while in transport. all the little things that you would not think about just planning it and hoping for the best.

      good luck and have fun

    • Sundance…what a score…just imagine all the fun you and your family are going to have driving around in it.

      Can feel your excitement through your post…have fun…cheers.

    • SurvivorDan says:

      Insanely jealous. What a find! I am keeping an eye out for an old deuceandahalf or some such. But, I’d jump on a deal like that.
      Good for you Sundance!

  60. SurvivorDan says:

    I would feel privileged to review your site as well M.D. I rarely go anywhere else with all the great info and insights I can get from the WolfPack. Have been very busy and up in the mountains last week but will take time next week. Also polishing off an article on primitive trap building to submit.

  61. SurvivorDan says:

    My prepping this week consisted of four days in the White Mountains with just my big pitbull. Sometimes you just have to unwind. Did test out my new solar charger and mummy sleeping bag on the trip. Had a virgin breakdown fishing pole and ultralight reel from my Go-bag that I broke in on some rainbow trout in Greer. Sampled various dehydrated and freeze dried food stuffs as well. And Kopiko 3-in-1 coffee. All good! That was some fun prepping.

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      SD, sounds like you had the best week out of the pack.

      • SurvivorDan says:

        ‘It was very peaceful as the dog doesn’t talk much, ‘cept when he drinks too much beer.
        Still feel guilty goofing off …………… NOT!

    • riverrider says:

      sd, green with envy. i GOTTA get out on the river soon.

      • SurvivorDan says:

        Life’s too short brother. Gonna try to do something in the wilds every month. Even if it’s just right here in the Superstition Mountains.
        As much fun as it was, the trip did remind me that having to live – primitive like (long term) – in the wilds after TEOTWAWKI would suck. Freezing my butt off in the morning while starting a fire, cooking, cleaning, washing me up in a bowl,using a slit trench, catching breakfast, etc is work. Getting too old……
        If bad folks ever force me to bug out to the woods…..I’ll be wrathful before I go.
        Bugging in is indeed best.

        • Hawkeye says:

          Didn’t realize you were that close to the Superstitions. I’m looking at Superstition Mt. as I write this.

        • riverrider says:

          sd, LOL. you reminded me how much we’ll miss our relaxing time “on the throne”. squatting hurts like crap at my age, pun not intended. but yes i/we need to set aside time to enjoy nature and in doing so get in touch with our self reliance and test our skills….i see a canoe trip in my immediate future.

          • SurvivorDan says:

            “…squatting hurts like crap at my age…..”
            Now that there is funny.

            Go do that canoe trip rr. Set a date.
            Until I set a firm date I just kept procrastinating.

            You know it’ll be grand….. see some critters ….. get some paddling exercise ……test some survival gear and skills ….. eat some fresh fish ….. peace and quiet…..

  62. Prepper RN says:

    Hello and prayers and Blessing to one and all,
    This was a slow week for finding preps on sale. I did take advantage of the cool days during the week to dehydrate 10 pounds of oranges. I candied the peels off of the slices. Labor intensive but delicious in the end. I took the syrup left over and canned it. It turned into a thick delicious orange syrup. I took the ends from the oranges and started some more orange cleaner.
    2 pounds of cocconut oil, food grade.
    1 flat of 1/2 gal jars, one of wide mouth pints.
    worked with my container garden.
    groomed my dog.
    I see that the world is not what I thought it once was and have come to the reality that this has been going on sice we broke from England. I want our freedom and liberty back! I fear that will not happen anytime soon without much suffering and loss.

    I did speak with a state trooper while caring for his child and he said to watch my speed on the road. They are gearing up to stop everyone to raise (steal) more of our dollars.

    I continue to pray for our Nation.

    • Prepper RN…when I woke up and saw what was happening…I went from disbelief and searching for more info (as I hoped it was just some isolated articles crying wolf) to saying ‘What the Heck!!’ while reading those articles – and went to the source/primary documents – to confirm…and then I flew into action.

      I changed my whole lifestyle. Gained new skills and practice them.

      The USA was held up, and rightly so, as having the most freedoms and protections for their citizens….and to see what is happening – especially in just the last 6 months…shocking developments.

      On my side of the pond we have a much larger presence of LEO’s on the roads…of course it is revenue raising…even though it’s denied by TPTB.

      I wish you strength and courage…and keep pressing forward – just like the rest of us. cheers.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Lots of folks in the US these days are blaming this politician and that one for the 08 financial crisis. I believe the truth is that it was a well planned and orchestrated financial terrorist attack. I believe it was timed to allow our current administration to do the things they have done. All of it is an orchestrated effort that has taken many years to put together by a coalition of our enemies both foreign and domestic.

        • charlie…this morning while I was listening to talk-back radio – re the budget was handed down last night – this time last year we had a $22B deficit – now it is $42 B deficit. These clowns/puppets are all having their strings pulled by the same (d)Evils.

          Apparently US has a 100% GDP, Japan 150%, and they say we are in fine form at 9.6% GDP.

          Our revenue base collapsed in 2008 – yet at the time we had a $20B surplus – yet now we have $250B debt!!! – and heard the Opposition Treasurer say it is going to jump to $300B in a few months….

          Our interest payment on this debt is $8B annually. We just don’t have the revenue base to manage this – and I am no economist – just someone who knows how to run a business in a viable manner – our Trade Practices Act makes it an offense to run an insolvent business – well, what is going on with the Fed Gov’t???

          Whereas our current respective Gov’ts seem to only know how to run a business in the red…well hello – any idiot can do that, it doesn’t take someone with a degree – which most of them have.

          In 5 years we have gone so far backwards, we won’t be able to climb out of this increasing debt.

          Apparently our unemployment rate is 5.2% – what a joke…lies and more BS all over the globe.

          Guys, I’m ranting…sorry – cheers.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Chloe, I’m not sure I ever knew or maybe forgot where you are located? In our local paper last night was an announcement that our county had actually laid off some employees. First time that has happened in at least half a century and they weren’t janitors and such but career employees. I’m sorry for those that lost jobs but ……
            IT’S ABOUT TIME!

            • Charlie…am located near the Top East Corner of Oz.

              Our vote last month got rid of the party that increased our debt at State level. Can google search ‘Queensland elections got rid of Labour’ – something will come up if you want to read more about it.

              our new/incumbent Premier is now axing many temporary public service /government jobs – and I don’t have the answers…yet people need work/ country needs industry…instead there is too much reliance on the mining industry to carry the full load.

              -however, our debt level is too high…our railway system (Queensland Rail) was purchased by China – took me ages to track down the info – as the info that gets talked about/reported on the radio/TV is just floss – while the selling out of Oz is buried – and hopefully goes unnoticed….

              China is now assured of getting their coal to the ports for shipping…our public assets, paid for by tax payers/pensioners – sold off…does this also sound familiar to you.

              Today as I was driving in the city – saw a billboard still up – from last fortnights local elections stating that our rates (property taxes) have gone up 40% in 4 years…and yet, compared to the property taxes I pay in another town…that is still very low.

              Also, I read in one of the local papers as I was driving through – that one of the gold mines located in the top east of Oz went into voluntary administration after its shares had been suspended from trading – failed to re-finance the $40M debt facility with one of our 4 big banks…up to 250 workers will be made redundant.

              What does that mean?? price of gold is circa $1600 p/oz – and the company couldn’t get refinanced…while people with a bad credit rating, no job, and no way to pay back the cost of a new car with no deposit down – get to just drive it away. When they default – do the lenders get bailed out…by the taxpayers…

              reminds me of the sub-prime mortgage fiasco…as now they are targeting the $30-$50K debt range…as the $300K – $1M targets are underwater – and they can’t sell as their house prices have fallen …just like on your side of the pond.

              I’m ranting again ->>> back to the mine….added to that – an environmental order has been issued because of the release of water into a river by that mine..tests show arsenic, nickel, and lead levels 25 times higher than normal…no fish etc in the river.

              Now with the mine in administration – who is going to pay for the clean up of the river…taxpayers?

              Debt is definitely one of the instruments to crush our respective countries – just as it is happening in the PIIGS nations-(Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain).

              And UK, USA, OZ, JAPAN – we all have too much debt – borrowing at a crazy pace…yet living standards are falling because of lack of manufacturing and real productivity – and crushing regulations on the primary producers…

              Bridgestone Tyres closed its last plant in Oz some time ago…now all tyres are imported. Bond clothing plant – manufacturing is now overseas also. Workers protested…made no difference.

              then with global ledgers registering the total unpayable debts – what will we have in its place…SDR’s..(Special Drawing Rights) ….could be something, could be nothing…

              prep on. cheers.

            • Charlie…am located near the Top East Corner of Oz.

              Our vote last month got rid of the party that increased our debt at State level.

              our new/incumbent Premier is now axing many temporary public service /government jobs – and I don’t have the answers…yet people need work/ country needs industry…instead there is too much reliance on the mining industry to carry the full load.

              -however, our debt level is too high…our railway system (Queensland Rail) was purchased by China – took me ages to track down the info – as the info that gets talked about/reported on the radio/TV is just floss – while the selling out of Oz is buried – and hopefully goes unnoticed….

              China is now assured of getting their coal to the ports for shipping…our public assets, paid for by tax payers/pensioners – sold off…does this also sound familiar to you.

              Today as I was driving in the city – saw a billboard still up – from last fortnights local elections stating that our rates (property taxes) have gone up 40% in 4 years…and yet, compared to the property taxes I pay in another town…that is still very low.

              Also, I read in one of the local papers as I was driving through – that one of the gold mines located in the top east of Oz went into voluntary administration after its shares had been suspended from trading – failed to re-finance the $40M debt facility with one of our 4 big banks…up to 250 workers will be made redundant.

              What does that mean?? price of gold is circa $1600 p/oz – and the company couldn’t get refinanced…while people with a bad credit rating, no job, and no way to pay back the cost of a new car with no deposit down – get to just drive it away. When they default – do the lenders get bailed out…by the taxpayers…

              reminds me of the sub-prime mortgage fiasco…as now they are targeting the $30-$50K debt range…as the $300K – $1M targets are underwater – and they can’t sell as their house prices have fallen …just like on your side of the pond.

              I’m ranting again ->>> back to the mine….added to that – an environmental order has been issued because of the release of water into a river by that mine..tests show arsenic, nickel, and lead levels 25 times higher than normal…no fish etc in the river.

              Now with the mine in administration – who is going to pay for the clean up of the river…taxpayers?

              Debt is definitely one of the instruments to crush our respective countries – just as it is happening in the PIIGS nations-(Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain).

              And UK, USA, OZ, JAPAN – we all have too much debt – borrowing at a crazy pace…yet living standards are falling because of lack of manufacturing and real productivity – and crushing regulations on the primary producers…

              Bridgestone Tyres closed its last plant in Oz some time ago…now all tyres are imported. Bond clothing plant – manufacturing is now overseas also. Workers protested…made no difference.

              then with global ledgers registering the total unpayable debts – what will we have in its place…SDR’s..(Special Drawing Rights) ….could be something, could be nothing…

              prep on. cheers.

            • gremlins again …hope this gets through..

              Charlie…am located near the Top East Corner of Oz.

              Our vote last month got rid of the party that increased our debt at State level.

              our new/incumbent Premier is now axing many temporary public service /government jobs – and I don’t have the answers…yet people need work/ country needs industry…instead there is too much reliance on the mining industry to carry the full load.

              -however, our debt level is too high…our railway system (Queensland Rail) was purchased by China – took me ages to track down the info – as the info that gets talked about/reported on the radio/TV is just floss – while the selling out of Oz is buried – and hopefully goes unnoticed….

              China is now assured of getting their coal to the ports for shipping…our public assets, paid for by tax payers/pensioners – sold off…does this also sound familiar to you.

              Today as I was driving in the city – saw a billboard still up – from last fortnights local elections stating that our rates (property taxes) have gone up 40% in 4 years…and yet, compared to the property taxes I pay in another town…that is still very low.

              Also, I read in one of the local papers as I was driving through – that one of the gold mines located in the top east of Oz went into voluntary administration after its shares had been suspended from trading – failed to re-finance the $40M debt facility with one of our 4 big banks…up to 250 workers will be made redundant.

              What does that mean?? price of gold is circa $1600 p/oz – and the company couldn’t get refinanced…while people with a bad credit rating, no job, and no way to pay back the cost of a new car with no deposit down – get to just drive it away. When they default – do the lenders get bailed out…by the taxpayers…

              reminds me of the sub-prime mortgage fiasco…as now they are targeting the $30-$50K debt range…as the $300K – $1M targets are underwater – and they can’t sell as their house prices have fallen …just like on your side of the pond.

              I’m ranting again ->>> back to the mine….added to that – an environmental order has been issued because of the release of water into a river by that mine..tests show arsenic, nickel, and lead levels 25 times higher than normal…no fish etc in the river.

              Now with the mine in administration – who is going to pay for the clean up of the river…taxpayers?

              Debt is definitely one of the instruments to crush our respective countries – just as it is happening in the PIIGS nations-(Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain).

              And UK, USA, OZ, JAPAN – we all have too much debt – borrowing at a crazy pace…yet living standards are falling because of lack of manufacturing and real productivity – and crushing regulations on the primary producers…

              Bridgestone Tyres closed its last plant in Oz some time ago…now all tyres are imported. Bond clothing plant – manufacturing is now overseas also. Workers protested…made no difference.

              then with global ledgers registering the total unpayable debts – what will we have in its place…SDR’s..(Special Drawing Rights) ….could be something, could be nothing…

              prep on. cheers.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Chloe, ponder on this for a while. There are only 4 ways on this planet to creat new wealth. Those are mining and drilling, logging, fishing and farming. In other words, wealth creation requires exploitation of a natural resource.

              Your country and ours are either placing those resources off limits or denying permits to our domestic producers and at the same time either selling or leasing the rights to China and others who are not our friends. We have enough coal, oil and gas in the USA to shut OPEC down if our government and the green lobby would allow it.

      • Pineslayer says:

        Hi Chloe, I heard that increased LE was due to the Olympics. Although it is also a good excuse to ratchet down the populace too.

        • Pineslayer…yes, read something similar…I’m an Aussie by the way…don’t hold that against me – okay – cheers.

          • Pineslayer says:

            Chloe, sorry I didn’t mean to insult you 🙂

            • Pineslayer..that made me laugh…and definitely not insulted…spent some time in the UK…however, am a dinky-di /true-blue Aussie…. (just a little bit of Aussie slang for you to chuckle over).

              re the Olympics…does the build-up of security/military and a ship in the Thames seem to suggest that war games, rather than sporting games are going to be held in July?

              What are they (PTB) expecting?

              Sometimes I can’t put the puzzle pieces together…and it is only well after the fact – that I sometimes see the bigger picture.

              If Luddite Jean was still posting…would no doubt give us local info….cheers.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Hi Chloe, In the days before it became apparent that a shtf moment could come at any time I used to day dream about moving to Australia. I love the place based on what I’ve seen and read on TV and the Internet. I’d love to go there and drive a road train or work on one of the huge farms. Unfortunately your government would make me leave my guns and now my knife behind.

            I fear that you guys will be in real danger from the Chinese in the coming years. You Aussies have always been there for the USA when we needed your help and we have always been there for you. Unfortunately all of that seems to be changing. The heart of the American people is with you. It remains to be seen what our government might do.

            • Charlie…no reply button further up at your post…

              re the pondering post…you’re right of course…you have definitely got your finger on the pulse of what is going on.

              Agree that we will eventually be gobbled up by Asia..have seen some articles where the globe has been divided up into 3 main areas…and we are included in the Asian area…however, that is probably a long way off –

              right now, they are our biggest trading partner – without their demand for our natural resources – we are in trouble…

              However, 2.5K marines are setting up in Darwin – probably only the first of many to come over…so, who knows what is in our future.


            • charlie (nc) says:

              Chloe, I think the future is very uncertain for everyone these days.

          • Pineslayer says:

            Chloe. Increased LE in the Motherland for the Olympics, paranoia? or evil people love a big stage. I would be worried.

            I have heard varied stats on crime rates since the draconian gun and knife laws have been inflicted upon you. What is it really like? Do good people carry clubs or a good heavy Landcruiser?

  63. ARK Prepper says:

    This week after much research we got a V151 Ziploc Vacuum Sealer System and bags at Meijer the cost was half that of the food saver model and the bags cost less also. Used it to put up meat we got at Sams Club. it is very easy to use. Finished up our flower beds in the front yard that contain more than just flowers. for those that have to hide the fact they are growing herbs just hide them in with your flowers. We also put in the last of the rain barrels in the front of the house these will hold 180 gallons of rain water. Will start working out back next week we have put up a 6′ high privacy fence around the back yard and start putting in raised veg. beds. not much more in they way of preps this week, Wishing all the best for the Wolf Pack keep on prepping as you can.

  64. Me and my girlfriend went garage sale’ing today. I got a 2 person survival kit made by Guardian Survival Gear for $20. I also found a nice first aid kit for $3 and 4 bread baking pans for $2.

    While at the store, I picked up some extra hand soap, toothpaste and mouthwash.

  65. riverrider says:

    charliebuck, fifth try, check out theboxotruth in ref to your question on slugs versus body armor. good luck.

    • riverrider says:

      i advise all of the pack check out that site. they test firearms, ammo, and more importantly, myths related to gunplay. very good info.

      • village idiot says:

        Yep, that’s the website I referred to when I gave charliebuck my answer, river. It’s a great website.

    • charliebuck says:

      Thanks riverrider.Will do that.Be Safe buddy.

  66. Suburban Housewife says:

    Hi All –

    You people are all so inspiring! Reading the weekly “What Did You do To Prep This Week” posts has become the highlight of my week. I really look forward to this.

    First of all, how do you keep track of everything? I have like a 30 second memory and even though I try to write down my accomplishments – I either can’t remember them or I just forget to write them down anyway.

    I got a couple of apps for my iPhone to try to help me. which I’ve been using a while now (free or super cheap):
    “Stockpile”, which I can’t really figure out how to use. Actually I think maybe it’s just another list maker.

    “Prep & Pantry” which I like a lot. It’s very useful. It tracks what you have, how much you want to have, where you put it, expiration dates, etc. I know I have used some stuff and forgotten to take it out of inventory – but it’s better than nothing – pretty easy to learn and use. Now if I could only be consistent with using it I’d be in great shape.

    The last one is called “PriceBook” – it is supposed to help you track prices across different stores and over time. I’m not so good at using this, but again, if I could be consistent, take the time, and remember to do it I think it’d be great. Once my life settles back down a bit, I will use this one more I think.

    I’m getting ready to go to Spain with DH for about 10 days, and when I get back I go back to NC to help the pregnant DD while the Capt. is away. My preps are scattered and disorganized. Heck, my entire life is a scattered mess right now. But I am BLESSED to be able to go and help and to do the things I am doing.

    Thanks to Natalia and her Prep Utility Vehicle site – I should have plenty to read on my flights. Probably more than I can read – I can’t grab ALL the free books – I have an iPad and some of the free Kindle books aren’t free for the iPad – but I have a TON of stuff to read now.

    I emptied my Studio. The landlord was wonderful – had my deposit refund check ready for me and everything. Told me I cold come back anytime if space is available. That was kind of a sad day. I put all my paintings and stuff in storage and while there found several boxes of canning jars, Still haven’t found my old grain mill yet though.

    Ordered and received the dry blade and bowl for the Vitamix – so I can make flour now as long as we have power. I know that old hand crank grain mill is around here somewhere – gotta keep looking.

    Researched how to make my own rice, almond and soy milk. Bought a 12# bag of organic brown rice at Costco to start experimenting with. Also got 12 4 oz cans of green chili’s while I was there.

    Stopped at Harbor Freight – I’d never been there – just to look around. Much to my surprise the DH knew where everything was and in which aisle it in – he seemed to take a lot of pleasure in showing me around. This from a man who had never held a hammer when I met him – of course it’s been 3+ decades and he has learned a few things, but still he just keeps surprising me. We bought a $6 LED solar yard light to see how bright it would be. I’ve seen these lights at Big Lots for $2 – but I think they aren’t very bright. We will see – it’s ultimately for inside the house if the power goes out. If it’s bright enough to make me happy we will get a few more. Also got a little knife that looks like a key for my key ring. I always carry my keys in my hand as a potential weapon – now it really is. Probably more of a novelty/toy – but may come in handy someday.

    Ordered some stuff from EE. Forgot what I ordered.

    Bought a Cuisinart Food processor from Costco, plugged it in & it ran for a millisecond and stopped. Checked GFI’s and fuses and what not and determined it was a defective machine. Exchanged it and the second one ran about 30 seconds before it did the same darn thing. Took that back and went to Bed Bath and Beyond and got a KitchenAid – it’s still in the box. We’ll see.

    Apparently I had ordered an Excaliber Dehydrator because it showed up on my front porch. I wanted one and was thinking about getting one – just didn’t remember actually getting around to ordering it. DUH. I’m pretty excited about this one. It’s still in the box though too.

    Watched the documentary “Fresh” about our food system – it was good.

    Received the book by Rawles – “How to Survive the End of The World as We Know It” – haven’t looked at it yet. I’m really wanting M.D.’s book – still waiting for it to arrive.

    Also ordered 3 cans of instant rice milk from Soap.com and received it SUPER FAST! Didn’t even have a chance to forget that order!

    Got my first issues of Urban Farm and Countryside magazines. I think I will like them.

    I noticed that the little blue potatoes I threw in the bin the last time I was home are growing – need to add some dirt. The last time I was home there were several blue potatoes and a sweet potato sprouting on the kitchen table – I started to pitch them but decided on the bin that I grew them in last year. I know you’re not supposed to grow potatoes in the same spot twice – but what the heck – we will see what happens. I won’t be out anything and just maybe I will end up with a few potatoes this year.

    I just want to be home, and play in my own yard. (Sigh) – Maybe by the end of July.
    In the meantime – this blog keeps me going and thinking and planning…now if I could only remember those plans…LOL

    • Jarhead 03 says:

      Suburban Housewife, for my weekly preps I keep track on my phone and send copies to my computer where I keep a data base on an excel spread sheet on each focused area such as
      Pantry: canned goods fruit, canned goods veggies, canned goods, sugar, flour etc.

      Large cabinet: flour, rice, noodles, rommen noodles, spaghetti pasta etc.

      Wall mounted drawers:
      Field craft: (BBs, sling shot, old fashion slings, sling shots, signal mirrors, e tool etc
      Lighting: flashlights, batteries, chem lights, small lanterns, candles, matches, lighters etc.
      Rope/straps/wire: para cord, kite string, climbing rope, tie down straps, steel cable, tow straps etc.
      Cooking: propane stoves, butane stoves, ammo can stove, field pans, plastic cooking utensils, paper plates etc.
      Shelter: tarps, ponchos, space blankets, plastic sheeting, eye grommets etc
      Medical Supplies: a well managed list
      And the list goes on for my cabinet system..

      Water: 5 gallon bottles, 5 gallon cans, 10 gallon cans bottled water cases and bottled water tap filled.

      Ammo: by caliber, speacialty loads, large ammo can, small amm can, BOB cans and range cans.

      Hope this helps some

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        Yes Jarhead – that does help some 🙂
        I like the way you have things broken out and organized. I’m not good with excel, but I think ultimately I would like to have all of this on paper and not be relying on technology so much anyway. Right now it’s easy to just scan bar codes and get the stuff in my “system” – (Oh that made me laugh out loud! my system – rotflol)- but if the grid goes down it’s not going to do much good all compiled in my iPhone, iPad and laptop I’m afraid.
        WIll work on this in July when I get home and maybe get to stay home for a while…

        • Jarhead 03 says:

          Suburban. I have it on paper as well, I print it. You can get something like a calendar or blank paper and make lines so you can break down each groups. If you have someone you trust, draw it up on paper for someone to create a template where you can fill it in by pencil.

  67. Suburban Housewife says:

    Oh – I wanted to ask those of you who know – your advice and opinion. It seems that Honeyville prices are quite a bit higher than Emergency Essentials on a lot of their food items. I was comparing dehydrated to dehydrated – I know the freeze dried is more expensive.

    Is there a big quality difference between them? I don’t mind paying more for better quality – but if there isn’t a significant difference I don’t want to.

    What is your experience?

    • cosmolined says:

      Suburban Housewife:
      Look at Walton Feed too. Their prices are so low that even with shipping they are less expensive here in So. Kali. Cos

    • Bam Bam says:

      Suburban Housewife,

      I will order from both EE and Honeyville. It just depends on who has the better price. I haven’t noticed any considerable difference in quality. I am impressed with EE’s customer service. I haven’t needed Honeyville’s customer service.

      • JP in MT says:

        Suburban Housewife:

        One thing I have found that is helping me is on my spreadsheet for the DH and FD foods I changed everything to the same number of servings per can. I found that not only do the prices for the can differ, but the number of servings AND the size of the serving.

        Between Honeyville and EE the shipping is almost a non-issue ($4.99 vs $12 max). I use EE mostly because of the way their site works, it’s very user friendly for me. Plus I get a monthly sales catalog from them, and our preps are at a point where I usually only by stuff on sale. Almost everything I stock up on, goes on sale if I have the patience to wait for it.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        Seems like EE, Honeyville and Auguson Farms are the 3 big advertisers. I think I was comparing dehydrated carrot dices – prices, weights, and serving sizes when I realized Honeyville was about twice as much money. I don’t want to load up on a bunch of canned purchased stuff because I want to dehydrate my own organic stuff – but I want some back up stuff til I can get my own veggies and fruit going and get stocked up.
        I don’t know – maybe it’s just my calculations. I still haven’t even talked to Auguson Farms about their bashed cans yet – on my to do list.
        Good to know about customer service – that is important to me usually, it’s just that lately I’m too darn tired to even care –

    • Prudent says:

      Suburban: Don’t discount the ‘LDS’ store. Next to going to your local cannery, nobody can match the price for staples and that is including shipping.

      • Bam Bam says:


        Good call. I order my staples from the LDS online store. That is a real service Mormons are doing. If more people were willing to cook from staples, there would fewer hunger children in the U.S.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        I think I will definitely order my wheat from LDS when I get ready to – their prices did look really good when I checked –

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      Please do check out the amount in each can. I can’t remember what I was comparing between EE, Augason farms, Thrive and Honeyville.

      Sometimes the Ounces vary per product between the sellers. So while checking out the prices, make sure your comparing the same weights. So EE may have a cheaper price on something like dehydrated green beans, but the contents is LESS then maybe Honeyville.
      Just something to be aware of when comparing products.
      Hope I explained that clearly.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        Soggy –
        Yes, I noticed that. I think I was taking that into account when I noticed the huge price difference – but now I am beginning to wonder if I didn’t just mess up on my math or something.

    • Prepper RN says:

      Watch for daily deals at Augason Farms, some are awesome, some not so much. Honeyville has a 10% off sale every so often, which makes them more affordable.
      Hehydrated is very condensed in size to make it easier to store a bunch. Freezed dried is the same size wet as dry, so is deceiving and many times very expensive. Freeze ddried is tasty when talking about fruit.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        Well, I haven’t tried much of any of it yet. I keep thinking I should just order a big variety of a bunch of things and compare compare compare – but then I think of all the open cans with their shelf life ticking away and what a waste that might be –

    • Ms ACW says:

      I have ordered from both. I recently researched the brands from EE, Honeyville, Augason Farms and Thrive and made out a list based on cost and shelf life. One thing I did notice is that the shelf life on the Honeyville products were much shorter than those from EE, Augason and Thrive. I printed up the info on shelf life and cost and use that to help me decide which product to purchase. Also helps determine if something is a good sale price.

      • Suburban Housewife says:

        I think this is what I need to do. When I get home in July I can take some time and chart it out. It shouldn’t be as hard as I am making it for myself I think. I just want clean basic simple essentials, like carrots and potatoes, not meals or mixes. It should be simple really. Right?

  68. IndianaAli says:

    Just keeping on prepping, the usual stuff, mostly working in the garden, planted corn and beans. Also getting to harvest some things, lettuce, radishes, sugar peas and our first strawberries… yum! shortcake on the menu. Dehydrated some greenbeans from out of the freezer Friday. DH is working on making a new stall in the barn and made a new door for the barn too. Of course the usual picking up deals at the grocery with coupons, and sales, etc. Seems like kind of a slow week but the time sure went by quick.. guess it is because of work on Monday.

  69. TomFish says:

    Added a couple flats of water, ketchup and canned gravy. Haven’t been feeling quite right lately….something seems amiss.

    Hmmmm…hope I’m wrong. Pray for the best, prep for the worst, I guess!

    Take care,

  70. Hi all….haven’t been around in a while and I feel bad. But there is just so much to do and we’ve been busy preppin’….

    Finally crossed 5K rounds of 9mm, 1000 rds 7.62.

    I had to cull a chicken out of my flock last night….apparently it suffered some sort of injury and the others pecked him until he was, well, cannibalized. I looked through the coop and found a nail sticking out that I’d missed and had some tissue on it…I blame that. Poor thing. Thing is, those other hens destroyed this chicken. Must have been the sight of blood. I’m down to 6 hens plus a rooster. The coop is plenty big for them and with one being gone, more room to move. This is my first year with chickens and I’m learning a lot. Working on a goat pen/barn now but don’t want to jump into that too quickly yet.

    Did some range time.

    Worked on the truck a little…added a push bar and some spotlights.

    Rotated the pantry and added some more food stuffs. Still working on a well back-up solution for water.

    Good to see the blog is getting so many readers. This blog is saved in my tool bar/RSS feed so its easy for me to read here every day as I get time.

    • riverrider says:

      chris, i’m told by the oldsters that they need oyster shells or ground egg shells when they start pecking each other. lack of minerals. if they don’t have any grit to grind their food they’ll do it too. sometimes its just instinct to kill the weekest.

    • village idiot says:

      5000 rds. of 9mm and only 1000 of 7.62? I’d reverse those numbers where I live, maybe your situation is different. Too bad about the chicken, I’ve seen them do the exact same thing before. Good luck with the goats.

      • I'm A Prep Kat says:

        My hens have done that as well. sometimes it just happens. Good luck in the future with them.

  71. newlyred says:

    We stocked 400 fish into our pond and transplanted some seedlings to the garden.

  72. Bam Bam says:

    I sprained my ankle again. I just stepped funny on it. So now I am in bed with my foot propped up. I am so mad I could scream. I just got over my last injury and had just started to get back into my exercise routine.

    On a good note, I did pick my first tomato of the season. I also picked two pickling cucumbers.

    • Prepper RN says:

      Bam Bam,
      I feel your pain. I have a right ankle that have sprained and re sprined over and over again over the years. I am a klutz, for sure.
      Praying for healing for you.

    • cosmolined says:

      Bam Bam:
      I am sorry to hear about your ankle. Hope you heal fast! Cos

    • Bam Bam says:

      Thanks guys. It’s my right ankle, the one I’ve sprained several times over the years. I am disappointed because I was back up to walking three miles every morning. I will rest it for a few days and see how well it does. Last time I sprained my ankle I started walking too soon and hurt it even worse.

      • village idiot says:

        Bam Bam, there is an ankle brace that is soft and supports your ankle, and you might want to wear one for a while after it gets better. I wore one for almost a year one time, and it really helped keep me from re-spraining my ankle. Once the ankle is completely healed you can take it off. HTH.

        • Bam Bam says:


          Your post reminded me that dh got me an ankle brace for Christmas. I pulled it out of my BOB and put it on. Thanks!

      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Bam Bam, I feel you there I sprained mine just over 2 months ago and last week it felt good getting back in the gym. Longest recovery for a sprain it felt like. Ice packs, elevation and very warm Epsom salt soaks helped.

        • Bam Bam says:


          Yep. I did the ice cube soak (which my dog really enjoyed–bobbing for ice cubes, that is), the elevation and the soaking with epsom salt. I have been commanded to stay off my feet today.

          • Jarhead 03 says:

            Bam Bam, all the injuries I’ve endured and the fact I hate pain meds you learn different ways to cope or recover from injuries. That and a shot of something helps lol. I add a couple shots in my lemonade and I’m good lol

            • Bam Bam says:


              I don’t drink but I found a couple of Tylenol to be sufficient. I did wake up to the fact that I have nothing stronger than Tylenol in the house. I had surgery two years ago. When I no longer needed the pain meds, I threw them out. Now I wish I would have saved them just in case.

      • Bam Bam,
        I feel for you and you have my sympathy on those ankles! I have broken both of mine at different times and fractured my right heel , and have had many bad sprains with torn ligaments. One year I spent 6 months on crutches and then a cane till I got back to normal .. Now it seems I can trip over a rock the size of a dry pinto bean and sometimes if I take off running with out a littlw stretch they just lock up and dance around till all the little bones get back in place. And no I have never jumped out of planes but did do a lot of rock climbing back in the day but I always seemed to get injured doing normal things like stepping off a curb wrong or steppping in a hole or at the end of a long night of to much ingesting beverages.. Now my right ankle is about 30% bigger than the left. Good luck and take care of those steppers.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        BamBam, repeated sports related sprains when I was a kid have
        destroyed both of my ankles to the point that I have to be extremely careful when walking not to step on something like a large pebble or something similar on an otherwise flat surface.
        My ankles will flop right over if I do. The good news is that while it hurts like crazy for about 30 seconds, there is nothing left in there to tear up so I don’t get swelling or turning black or whatever. It is just sore for a while.

        I’d advise you to make sure you have good solid high top walking or athletic shoes or good work boots put away for after the shtf and select the shoes you wear now carefully.

        • Bam Bam,
          when I hurt my ankles due to torn legiments from military time, I put on the Combat Boots or high top Construction Boots, make sure to tighten them up to the top. I do the military tie up, with the lower boot being tightened then the top. Understand?

          It takes a few moments longer to do, but is so much more comfortable. Made a huge difference on those lovely long forced marches as well.

        • Bam Bam says:


          Yep. My dh bought me really nice high top hiking boots two weeks ago. Do you think I had them on? Ugg. I was out in the garage putzing around and just stepped on on funny.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            BamBam, I understand that. I have actually turned mine over while wearing 7″ high leather work boots that weren’t laced up quite tight enough. With me it’s a fine line between tight enough and cutting off all blood flow to my feet! LOL.

            • Bam Bam says:

              Dang, Charlie. I just need to be more careful. Post collapse, an ankle injury (or any other kind of injury) will be very bad indeed. I am going to start being more mindful.

        • Suburban Housewife says:

          BAm BAm – sorry for your injury! The DH and oldest DD both have crappy, wobbly, weak ankles from sports – an orthopedic/sports surgeon gave them exercises to do with big stretchy bands to strengthen and stabilize. When they slack off and get lazy about keeping their ankles strong they inevitably get injured – much more often than when they are diligent about the strengthening exercises. As a matter of fact the last trip to NC was because the pregnant DD stepped off a curb and sprained her ankle – again. You can find all kinds of exercises on the net – point is that I think (at least for my fam) that strengthening is a big key to prevention – but not til you are healed 😀
          Get better soon.

          • Bam Bam says:


            Thanks for the tip on ankle strengthening exercises. I will definitely do some research on this. My dh has one of those bands when he tore his rotator cuff.

      • Hawkeye says:

        Bam Bam…..
        Chasing chickens again?

    • BamBam…ouch…and are there any trips in an RV to a casino in the next few days??? just asking – so we know if you don’t post for a few days…get well soon…cheers.

      • Bam Bam says:


        Thanks. I am already feeling better. The swelling has gone down considerably and I can put pressure on it.

        • Bam Bam, keep it strapped firmly, including the heel area…(be careful when walking so no slipping).

          A physiotherapist may be able to outline some strengthening exercises – and now that you know the ankle can give way unexpectedly…wear supportive shoes whenever possible…stay strong – cheers.

  73. Spent plenty of time in the garden. Placed an order for some Monterey Garden Insect Spray with Spinosad, since it looks like Flea Beetles have now moved in. That stuff will be here tomorrow, and applied tomorrow night. Full Organic. Also started a Sourdough starter. Haven’t done one of those in years. Time to get it going again, and on with the fresh homemade bread. Finally found an old hot water heater tank in good shape, so spent time stripping it down to the bare tank. This will be the primary piece of my Solar Water Heater project I’ve been waiting to start. Took stock of my canning supplies, and listed all the stuff I need to buy, lids, rings etc.

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      I’m curious about your hot water heater tank solar project thing. What are you doing with it? For some reason I’m envisioning a solar shower and I know that’s probably not right.


      • Jarhead 03 says:

        Soggy, here in Kalifornia solar water heaters are growing in numbers. Do some google or yahoo searches. Some are custom from companies that. Build them and some are homemade. Some do it for going green and some are doing it to cut down on heating costs

        • Soggy Prepper says:

          I will check that out. Here in the Pacific Northwest I think we’d wait a L O N G time for water to heat with the sun! But it’s an awesome idea.

    • I'm A Prep Kat says:

      I’ve had a sour dough starter in my frige for years! My kidd-o’s expecially like when I make cinnamon rolls with it. I guess it’s a sweet-n-sour thing. Remember to feed it if you don’t use it. Enjoy!

  74. Singer says:

    Getting some serious work done in the garden since the rain has finally slowed down.

    We achieved another goal last month – we got a dog.

    Also, trying to decide about moving again. So, I’ve been looking at real estate. If we downsize to a smaller house we might be able to get more usable land. Big, important decisions………

  75. NewNormal says:

    10 cans for chicken packed in water (10 for $10) and 5 bottles of ketchup (10 for $10). My husband keeps buying ketchup for some reason. I guess it will season the roadkill when times get tough!
    I’d like to try to make soap and or candles. I just can’t decide how economical it is compared to just buying lots of it on discount. I suppose the experience it worthy.

    • Bam Bam says:


      Making soap can get expensive, if you use all the fancy oils–coconut oil, jojoba oil, palm oil, aloe vera oil, etc. When my scale arrives in the mail (hopefully Monday or Tuesday) I am going to make a couple of batches: one using the fancy oils and another using lard. If lard makes a good soap (as fellow pack members have suggested), then making soap at home will be very cost effective.

      I plan on stocking up on lye. I need to do some research to see how well it stores and how safely it can be stored. There’s a cattle ranch down the road and I am sure that I will be able to trade soap for tallow when SHTF.

      • Soggy Prepper says:

        Let us know when you find out about storing lye.

        I keep a couple containers of it I can get at Ace hardware in the drain cleaning section. (not drano or ones with additives). I’ve bought so much there they were looking at me weird and I started in on the different soaps I had been making.
        They released a sigh and started smiling saying how they didn’t think I was a meth addict but with all the lye they knew it wasn’t for drains! lol

        But pretty much they are the only hardware store/store in town that carries it and it’s cheap.

        • Bam Bam says:


          I read that Lowes carries lye. I haven’t gone in and checked for myself, however.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Don’t worry too much about a source for lye. Rather, learn how to make you own. Look it up online. All it requires is hardwood ash from your heater, fireplace or campfire, a container and water. Pour the water through the ashes and let it stand in the bottom of the ash container for a period of time, drain the water off and heat it to evaporate some of the water and concentrate the lye water. I won’t try to fill in the details. Find it online.

            • Bam Bam says:


              I have read extensively about making lye from wood ashes. The problem is that there is no way to test its strength. Commercially produced lye has a consistent strength and solubility. I have read how folks made soap back in the day, but the product often came out mushy. There was actually a prejudice against “soft soap”. People flocked to commercially manufactured soap because it was hard. But if things get really bad, I will revert to the old time method. Basically it’s dripping water through wood ash to produce the lye water. And rendering either tallow or lard after butchering.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Hmmmm. you should be able to test it with simple PH paper. Stick a strip in it and compare the color.
              Lye is a caustic so you want a high number. 7 is neutral. The PH scale is logrithmic so 8 is twice as strong as 7 and 9 is twice as strong as 8 if I remember correctly. If you know the PH of the water that you started with you can at least determine strength relative to water and relative to the last batch you made. suspect with a little research online you can find the ph standards for a particular brand or grade of commercial lye. The law requires them to publish Product Data Safety Sheets and that information should be on the sheet.

              Hope this helps.

          • Hawkeye says:

            Bam Bam, Charlie (NC)…
            I once visited a recreated village in Illinois, aledged to have been the home town of Linclon. Very interesting, the nineteenth century devices they had for survival.

            As regards lye…almost every home had a wood structure in the yard, built like an upside down pyramid with a cut out near the bottom. Seems they lined it with grass, straw, etc., then threw the fireplace wood ash into it. The rainfall then leached lye out the bottom and into a wood bucket in a continuous lye makeing process.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Thanks Hawkeye, I’d like to see that. I wonder if they have a web site with pictures of it?

              Bam Bam, here is a good starting point for you.

            • Bam Bam says:


              I think it would be fascinating to come up with an exhaustive list of things that people back in the day did to survive–like soap making, candle making, oil pressing (I imagine they had to do this), carpentry, baking, cooking, leather working, barrel making and so on. What skills are essential for communal survival?

            • Bam Bam says:


              Now this needs to go in my survival binder. (Actually, I need to start one.) Back in the day folks would put a chicken feather in the lye water. If it melted the feather, the lye was ready to use for soap making.

            • Hawkeye says:

              Charlie (NC), Bam Bam…..
              I wish I could remember the name of the town…it’s been over thirty years ago. I’m thinking Salem, Illinois but wouldn’t bet on it.

              I did google “Soap Making” and the third or so site listed on Google was the history of soap making. Strangely enough, their was a hand sketch of the “upside down pyramid” I had mentioned.

              Another interesting “thing” I remember about that town was the Grain Miller. Normally you would think of a water mill, but there was no river/stream there.

              Their grain mill was a disc, built of wood and about 25 feet in diameter. It had an axel that it spun on and was set at about a 15-20 degree angle to the ground.

              There were wood battens, on this disc, radiating out from the axel. If you can picture all that…now picture this: At the top of the disc were food and water in troughs and they had a cow tethered to the center of the disc.

              This goofy cow was always walking up hill towards the food/water and his/her weight caused the disc to rotate…as it did (it was geared to a large stone wheel) it ground the grains on a commercial scale.

              Ingenious, I thought?

            • Hawkeye says:

              Bam Bam…
              What skills……for communal survival?

              That would be some list! How comfy do you want to be during this “survival”?

              The things you mentioned would be a good start to an almost endless list. You could start adding to it with blacksmith, small engine mechanic (hopefully there are generators/water pumps here somewhere), electrician, gunsmiths, weavers, shoemakers and on and on.

              Is this another book in the making?

            • Hawkeye says:

              Charlie (NC)….

              Use this as a starting point for Salem, Illinois; Abe Lincolns boyhood home in Ill.


            • Bam Bam says:


              I love this historical stuff. Thanks for the link.

            • Bam Bam says:


              There has to be a book already on the old-time trades, with a chapter outlining the basics of each–enough to “get by”.

            • BamBam, I think there are books like that… remember the Old Foxfire series that came out in the 70’s…good stuff… and pretty much explaining the how tos of the way the mountain folk lived up until… I dunno, probably some still are living that way. I have 3 or 4 on the shelf… I need to start searching for the rest… thanks for triggering the memory…

            • Hawkeye says:

              Bam Bam…

              On “loving historical stuff”. Me too! I’d rather read a history book than anything. And so far as other reading goes….I’d rather read a dictionary than most novels. Not that my spelling shows it.

              I’m not familiar with a book that tells you how to live in pre gasoline engine or electrical grid days. I’m sure there are some out there that deal with all or part of what we are talking about?

              I believe MD even listed two such books very recently that he had acquired from Amazon? And of course there are many books I have seen that deal with one or another facet of it.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              thanks hawkeye. I’ll check it out

            • charlie (NC) says:

              BamBam, if I understand soap making there is a point where you have to mix the lye with the water and at a particular temp. That is one of the more dangerous parts of the process. It seems to me that making soap with lye water made from wood ash would eliminate that step. What you would do is drain the lye water from your wood ash and heat it, letting it evaporate while testing the PH and the temperature. When it got to the right spot you would add it to the other ingredients. By doing it that way you would be strengthing the lye already in solution rather than diluting it in a manner that can be dangerous.

              Just a thought.

            • Soggy Prepper says:

              Someone here had linked the No Tech Magazine site which is quite interesting as well. Lots of ideas for grid down times or just living without “electronics”. Some of the stuff is quite technical to me actually. I never would have thought of a lot of it.


          • Soggy Prepper says:

            Yes it does! In a huge container. Just a different brand but that’s fine. Even one of the comments I read under the reviews was from a lady that says she uses it for soap making. So hurray! I will be picking one up and I will send DH too. Then they won’t wonder what I’m doing! lol


            • Bam Bam says:


              Perfect. I will go to Lowes and pick up a couple jars of lye. My dh’s friend brought over my soap molds today. He said to my dh, “They are kind of rough.” Then he came over and showed them to me. They are perfect. He sanded down all the edges. The tops fit perfectly, just like a shoe box. I am excited. I hope my scale arrives soon. I have everything else I need to make soap.

  76. No report last week; however, the last few weeks have been busy.

    Installed two packages of bees about a week and a half ago and both hives are quite literally buzzing. Both brood and honey are being produced, and if things go as well as I hope, this could be a good honey harvest year with other apiarists getting 60-100 pounds of honey per hive.

    Hauled my 30 year old Troy Bilt tiller to the local shop for an overhaul and it turned out that the transfer case had gotten water in it and rusted/seized some of the bearings. By the time they could get everything working again (with parts and labor) it would have been almost the price of a new tiller. That’s the bad news, but I really have no complaints, since the thing was a real work horse for nearly 30 years with no more maintenance than oil, plugs, and occasionally sharpening the tines. The good news is that they made me a pretty good deal on a new Cub Cadet tiller including financing for 1 year same as cash. This is the first time I’ve been in hock for something in perhaps a decade, but at zero interest for a year, it’s not a bad thing, and the new tiller will probably outlast the DW and me. In any case I still end up with a 30 year old, but still working, 8 HP Kohler engine. Thinking another genset or perhaps a log splitter, Hmmmm.

    Other than some minor work getting the raised beds cleaned up and watching the seedlings grow, it’s been a rather calm couple of weeks, but then again, there’s always something else to do, here on the farm.

    • Also, forgot my one big purchase for the week. Dunham’s Sports had a 14 (long) gun cabinet on sale for $119 today (Sunday) and tomorrow only. It’s a pretty standard style with a key lock, which I prefer over the electronic locks, and is made by Stack On. I’ve needed some extra storage capacity and this will do the trick and give me a little room for growth.

      • village idiot says:

        Ohio Prepper, is there a way to open an electronic safe if the lock fails? My son has one of those electronic locks on his gun safe, and he needs to know how to open the thing in case the lock fails.

        • vi,
          There probably is, but I haven’t investigated it, which is why I stick to keys, or mechanical combinations. Anything electronic or battery operated can fail at the wrong time.
          I have friends with the quick open pistol boxes that you use to store a loaded gun for quick access, and although they are cute and seem to work, I prefer to avoid batteries as much as possible when it stands between me and my self defense tools. Sometimes the old mechanical technology is just better and more reliable.

          • village idiot says:

            OP, did some checking and the electronic lock is made in a way that it can be taken apart revealing a lock that can be opened by a key. Perhaps the key is in my son’s safe, and he just didn’t notice it. He’s 26, so that’s a definite possiblility, even if he is an engineer.

  77. Dh built a chicken nursery next to the coop for the 5 week old chicks… glad to get them out of the house … He also bought some ammo for the AR and we started shopping for some thing a ma bob that makes the AR shoot .22s(?) I might have that wrong but in his explanation that’s what it seemed like.
    We bagged 50lbs of wheat flour into mylar /oxygen absorbers. We watched season 1 of The Colony since you all said it was so good.. we really enjoyed it… watched it in a one day rainy day marathon.
    Bought the materials to redo the roof in a white membrane stuff for the summer. Hopefully will cut down on the heat for the metal roof..
    Added a bit more junk silver to the collection…
    Hopefully this week will be less rainy and we can get a few more things done.

    • PrepMom,
      Sounds like the DH is looking for a .22 RF conversion kit. It’s one of the best investments I’ve made for my battery in quite a long time. Mine is a CMMG with a mix of CMMG and Black Dog magazines. Lets you practice running the gun and gaining all of that familiarity and muscle memory without breaking the bank.

      • OhioPrepper, I think the CMMG is the one he is looking at. While his AR is a very nice firing gun, I prefer the .22 if and when I shoot so he believes this will be more manageable PLUS the bullets will be easier to get and about a 10th the cost.

        • And you’ll be learning to use the gun and developing muscle memory and familiarity with the tool. If and when you need to use it with the 5.56 ammunition, other than a louder report and a little more recoil, you won’t really notice much difference. I love my conversion and use my rifles more with the conversion than without it.

  78. village idiot says:

    The socialist candidate won the Presidential election in France. It probably means the end of austerity in Europe, and we are likely to see the printing presses crank up. The only real solution to the problem was to cut spending, but there is just no appetite for any cuts, so inflation is going to be the order of the day. I’m not sure how long it will be before interest rates start to climb on the debt instruments in France, but watch them closely. The bond interest rates will give you a very good indicator on financial and social upheavals. If French rates top 7% get ready for some real problems. France is just too big an economy to let fail, and you can bet our Fed will flood France with liquidity in dollars. This should be a warning sign to put your prepping into emergency mode. Watch the markets closely in the coming days and weeks. I’m getting nervous, and with our elections coming, along with the Occupy and anarchist protests, and who knows what may happen. Everything appears to be coming to a head. Maybe those Mayans were on to something after all.

    • cosmolined says:

      You got most of it right. What you blew was it is not “our” Fed, we are theirs…… God Bless. Cos

    • VI,
      In the short run it will probably mean a flight to the dollar by EU investors. As bad as it is, the dollar may still be a better investment in the short term. It may even buy US the time to get a little handle on spending if the socialist doesn’t get reelected here.

    • riverrider says:

      vi, the danger is that when the world runs to the dollar, people will rejoice at the upswing not realizing it is the prelude to the crash and hyperinflation. i’m hoping the ptb don’t use france as an example to emulate. they are on a crash course. it tracks , as they have seldom shown the intestinal fortitude required to win. i hope we haven’t been consumed by the same affliction.

  79. alikaat says:

    This has been a weird prep week in my household! I have a new Sister-IL as of yesterday, a wonderful, educated and strong-willed woman to add to my family. We are all happy for both of them. The reception provided the opportunity to visit with rarely-seen but much loved family and was quite eye-opening. Beneath almost every topic of conversation was concern about some kind of socio-economic breakdown in the very near future, and lubricated by 6 hour of open bar (thank you, DB), many unguarded tongues broke OPSEC last night. But to a non-drinking designated driver (myself), the revelations just kept coming. The highlights:
    – One favorite relative and his wife in their mid-50’s have pulled completely out of the stock market and have put their $2+mil home on the market. They are pricing yachts and property in the Caribbean and plan on going completely off-grid in the next 2 years, leaving the States and all of our unsolvable problems behind
    – Another cousin, a scuba instructor of 30 years’ experience in East Coast waters has reported thriving tropical fish populations off the Jersey Shore in recent years. Strong evidence of oceanic warming and Gulf Stream instability
    – My DB and his new wife are apparently part of another prepper group! I spent some quality time with my DB’s two best (active milit) friends and their spouses. Their points of view, based on perspectives derived from experience at the fronts and involvement in unspecified training activities were extremely alarming. Most of their comments were far more extreme than what we typically see here on SurvivalistBlog. Their group has apparently been prepping for me and my sons for several years, on the assumption that we would need protection from what is coming! I did not completely blow OPSEC… but was flattered by their offer, and provided just enough information to allay their fears that I am not in any immediate danger, and have taken considerable precautions on all fronts to protect my family’s future. We are planning a day on the range with all of our children in the next couple of weeks.

    Though their points of view were rather alarming, I can not just refuse their offer. My already rather large prepper family may just have become a bit larger… and quite a bit more secure. I’m just not sure about all the different personalities involved. Increasing our numbers and combining with another, much more visible and security-oriented group with our quiet, under-the-radar prepper group might be challenging, at best. We’ll see what the future holds. I will have to talk about it to my current prepper family and see how they feel about involving another three families. At the very least, it is good to know there are more people preparing out there than I had ever suspected, and they are people that I have known for many years. It may be best if we are linked in other ways than as immediate family. We’ll see.
    This is getting very twilight-zoney, guys. I feel like I did the day the towers fell…. that I am seeing history in the making, and it is not the kind of history you ever want to see happen. Every day, the news sours just a little bit more. Really wish I could do as Paranoid did last week, and just cash everything out and head to the hills. But would that be the responsible thing to do for my family, or the poorest decision I could ever make?
    Just don’t know what to do.
    And so I keep prepping.

    Preps added this week:
    Four cases of canned vegetables for the downstairs pantry
    A case of thin spaghetti
    A pottery milk urn from an estate sale, no lid
    Box of assorted (dusty) canning supplies that may or may not be useable
    10 lb powdered milk

    Not too much added to my shelves this week… getting ready for DB’s wedding took far more time than seemed strictly necessary!

    Take care, all.

    • Soggy Prepper says:

      Congratulations on the addition to your family and perhaps the larger addition to your prepping family.

      It is weird how many people, even ones you don’t suspect, are planning for teotwawki event.

      Even grocery shopping the other day I made a comment on the size of the salad bag shrinking but the price going up to an elderly lady who was buying a bag. I said it was the sign of a good government. She snorted and said, “Oh yes, we Must thank them for thinking of us!”
      So many people, so many are displeased.

      I don’t know if you watch Beck, but he said he felt concerned with Jan 13. I watched a youtube video a couple years ago titled Daniels Timeline by some older southern gentleman. Absolutely resounded throughout my being. One of those things you watch that rings right but you can’t say why. The timeline had a tipping point in March of 2013.
      This video has been at the back of my mind ever since. Scared the bejeezus out of me… in a wake up sort of way.

      Which brings me to something I’ve pondered lately.
      If you KNEW you only had 2 months to prep, What would you buy or do?

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Soggy, I’m convinced that prepping is driving the little bit of a recovery (if any) we have in the economy. The “experts” will never admit it but I believe it to be true. It runs all the way from small items and food up to things like trucks. I know two autodealers. Between them they own Ford, Chevy and Dodge dealerships. They both tell me that trucks are driving their sales these days and it’s not because contractors and farmers are buying them.

      • alikaat says:

        Hi Soggy Prepper and charlie NC –
        I haven’t yet seen anything from Beck, but not because I am not interested. This site and CNN are among the few things that I have time to review regularly. Other things get fit in as I find time, but until I defend some time around Christmas this winter, my primary goal needs to be my research. Other stuff that I want to do gets put on the back burner. But March of 2013 sounds about right based on some projections some economist friends have made, and ‘rings right but can’t say why’ to me, too. Since this is the last growing season we will have before then, I’m putting my best effort forward in as efficient a way as I can to get things in place for at least a 6 month grid down. Not sure it can be done in 2 months… but Charlie may be right about the economic blip spurred by the preppers. In light of what I encountered this weekend, it looks like there are a lot of people with a similar ‘prep now’ mindset.
        If I had 2 months to prep… well, I’d get a good supply of ammo in place for the couple of firearms I’ve managed to lay in (thank you, RR, Jar, and BamBam for the selection advice), make sure to have a good seed bank on hand, plant as many berry bushes and fruit trees as can be productive in the space available, find a way around the zoning laws (or work around them somehow) so that we either have a couple of breeding pairs of rabbits (for meat) or a dozen or so chickens (maybe forgo the noisy rooster…) and appropriate coop/hutch for each. Make sure to have backup heat source (good supply of wood for wood stoves), and a number of backup propane tanks for use with camp stoves and grill. Invest in a good privacy fence to keep out the uninvited and install security motion-detector solar-powered lighting around the house. Train the dog to bark when the lights go on at night. Build large cistern for the capture of rainwater for secure drinking supply, 200 gal minimum (500 would be better, but probably not feasible in the space available). Purchase as many solar panels as will fit on the south side of the house and hook up to battery array to be set up in basement. Invest in a dc/ac converter and wire to secondary circuitry for crucial systems (laptop, one television, internet router, some scattered lighting throughout). Buy tons more shelf-stable supplies… my current 3+ months are pitifully inadequate and inexcusable for someone who has been at this for more than a year now. Then buy lots more ammo. Then some more ammo.
        Sound about right? Think anyone could do this in two months?
        Good thing March 2013 is almost a year away.
        P.S. I agree with BamBam about Greece.

      • MtWoman says:

        Soggy Prepper…excellent thought: what to prep if there’s only 2 months to do it. I’m giving that some thought now, and it’s helping me prioritize. Thanks.

      • Hunker-Down says:

        Soggy Prepper,

        We have been using your “2 months to prep” outlook for the last year. It makes it easy to decide what item or skill needs to be at the top of the list. Just hope there is a bunch of ‘2 months’ left!

      • alikaat says:

        Hi Soggy Prepper
        I did write an outline of a 2 month to prep plan… Seems to be caught in some kind of glitch. Maybe it’s just too long!
        Short answer (maybe this will make it through) – it’s do-able, but would be expensive. There’s just so much that has to be done to survive with any confidence in a SHTF world. And I would definitely have to go into debt to get there.

    • MtWoman says:

      Cat…thanks for this report. Reading this, especially in the clear way it’s presented, and without the anger, anxiety, and fear that is sometimes the content of posts expressing concern, is a REAL help. I almost feel these posts about what people/regular folks are thinking/feeling are more helpful than the specific info posts.

      And I love that you are cautious. That shows me you are SMART and your family will do well.

      I think we are all going to be making such choices in the not too distant future (who to align with, trust, work with, etc.).

      • Bam Bam says:

        I think Greece has collapsed for good.

      • alikaat says:

        Thanks, MtWoman. I do wish some of the Wolf Pack were closer, but I think things will be OK up here with the people who have found me. And hopefully, there will continue to be this online community for a long time. Unless full collapse occurs, (and I still don’t believe that is going to happen), the internet will continue to be available at least at public places and libraries. It may become more difficult to post here more than once a week or so without personal wireless connections, but we should still be able to communicate if we are OK and warn each other of things coming down the pike via message board and other open sites. Hopefully.

  80. So I’m just getting started in prepping. I live in a very small apartment with 4 people. So the past few times at the grocery store we purchased extra canned foods (mostly veggies) and some 5 gallons of bottled water (in 2.5 gallon bottles). We are also looking at our financial emergency supplies as well as all of our insurance policies. Also looking into buying a small home fire proof safe.

    • village idiot says:

      Welcome to the prepping world and MDs blog, David. The fact that you’ve just started prepping puts you ahead of the vast majority of people. Just remember, it’s a marathon and not a sprint. MD has some good posts on some things to get you started on the left side of the blog near the top. “Prepper list: 10 things to do now” is a good place to begin. Good luck.

    • BamaBecca says:

      Welcome David!

  81. Survivor says:

    Finally got my tractor, brush hog and disc up to the mountain and started pulling down trees. I disc’ed as much as I could in prep for planting food plots. I also disc’ed around some blackeberry plots to make it easier to get to the berries.
    Found a couple of guys tearing down an old barn. I started chatting with them and saw a huge pile of large mouth, quart sized Mason jars. I gave 50 cents each for them and ended up with about 30 good unbroken jars for canning. Will add the rings and lids soon.
    Started work on bringing water, both city and well, down to my property (that’s why I was pulling down trees).
    Got my seed bank started with organic, open pollinated seeds. Hoping to get my bank up to 30 species to plant in 3 plots that will be rotated every year. I’ll have a separate garden to let biennials like carrots go to seed.
    Bought another gun safe a few weeks ago and have placed it in my bugout location. I now have guns and ammunition staged where I need them. Still buying ammo and seeds, both will be great trade items.

    • MtWoman says:

      Survivor, this sounds great. A really good solid prioritized way to go about things. Thanks for the encouragement.

  82. village idiot says:

    Cat, the level of angst I’ve seen is rising as well. If you want to experience it first hand, just go to a gun show. The crowds are wall-to-wall nationwide, and people who never thought of owning a gun are entering the market. There is evidence here on MDs blog of many new gun owners as well.

    Wow, you are fortunate to have such a large prepper family. Most of mine somehow believe the government will pull another genie out of the bottle. The ones who believe this are highly educated, lawyers and dentists, accountants and real estate, but some in the family believe the way I do. Of course, I haven’t talked to the bulk of the family in almost a year, but we have our annual family reunion Memorial Day weekend, so I should find out more. I hope more of them have come around to your family’s way of thinking.

    As for advice, keep your options open. That’s the best I can do at the moment. It must be comforting to know that your DB has been thinking about you and making plans to include you in his preps. Options are nice to have. Take care.

    • alikaat says:

      Thanks, VI
      We are all from the same family, and our immigrant roots aren’t all that distant. We all grew up with the old-world ways being practiced and taught, so we’ve got the skills. Add in the strong service record of the men in my family where we were taught self-reliance and survival, and I think it probably makes sense. Just never thought there were as many of us as there are.
      Think the biggest surprise was that my DB’s group had included my family in their considerations. Perhaps they found value in my strong history of practicing skills passed down from our grandparents (largely due to the fact that I’ve had fewer financial reserves than most of them and have had to rely on that skillset than most of the rest!), and backwoods skills taught to my boys… not sure, however, since their whole group has all seen active duty overseas, and they have at least observed the third-world lifestyle first-hand, though they’ve always been able to rely on their MREs and chow lines for their sustenance. That will not be an option at some point in the near future. I’m rather ashamed that I didn’t include them! (actually… very ashamed)
      Thinking about it, there don’t seem to be many in my family with the attitude that the gubm’t will provide for them. We’re a pretty self-reliant lot, and almost all of us over the age of 30 have 4 year degrees or graduate degrees – no lack of education there. Few fit the standard liberal academic mindset; I am in the minority in my relatively centrist stance… and so try to avoid political conversations at all costs when around family. They don’t tend to go well.
      Very interesting, very eye-opening experience.

  83. i have not done much prepping since i inventoried my stuff- things have been tight around here- yet hubby planned a vacation for August- said he doesnt want to live his life” in case something may happen”- he supports my prepping but in some ways doesnt.
    i thought my first aid kit lacking so found some medicinal supplies for .88 at Wal Mart. also got some Macorni and cheese cheap at grocery store- am trying to fill out inventory with canning supplies and baking goods
    am having health problems- a year ago i was diagnosed with an stomach ulcer and given meds to heal it- it healed in 6 months but i think it is back so i am doing the treatment again- am both storing prescription meds and trying to taper off them also.
    had my aunt who knows how to can over this weekend but she doestn know we prep- she is a sheeple and she only showed me how to freeze stuff so will be learning how to can on my own i guess.
    we have gotten over two 5 gallon pails of produce from our garden in three harvestings- it sure is good to eat!!!!
    hubby has killed three gophers and a mole using old fashioned traps.
    does any one have a good link to a travel type BOB- we will be checking our luggage- i can carry stuff int hose but would have limited options and room to carry stuff with us……will feel naked without a BOB when we go on vacation…..am obsessing about it now
    everyone keep up the good work- it is nice to read all the comments
    oh and son put in an offer for some land- not near us…sadly….so i guess that plan is no longer in effect

    • cosmolined says:

      I’m totally tired, but I think the name of the canning book that is THE reference is the Ball Blue Book. (Pack help me if I’m wrong.) Wife had spinal surgery this morning. 17 hours in the Horse-pital. Cos

      • Lee (tx) says:

        Prayers and good wishes,, hope all turns out ok.

      • MtWoman says:

        Cos…sending healing thoughts for your wife. She doing ok?

        • cosmolined says:

          Thanks! I was a medic once upon a time, so this is the only time I sparkle…. the surgery was good, the nurses at the Hospital were the worst folks I’ve ever seen outside the DMV. The physical therapist and the occupational therapist were top notch, as was the tech who programmed the battery they put inside her. I’m off for 2 weeks ’cause she can’t bend, stretch or lift anything. Prayers are welcome…. God Bless, Cos

      • Bam Bam says:

        Yep, Ball Blue Book is the standard. You can pick up a copy at Walmart for $6.

      • sarahy says:

        The Ball Blue Book is one of the best references for canning. Be sure to use tested recipes and follow the recommended processing times and pressure (if pressure canning). You can also check with your county extension service and ask if they have canning workshops. The workshops are a great way of becoming familiar with the equipment and the process. Start slow (jams and jellies are a great place to begin) and before long you’ll be doing the more complicated canning. Have fun and enjoy the process.

      • Cos, hope your wife recovers fully and is able to get back home in short order…cheers.

        • BamaBecca says:

          Cos, saying prayers for a speedy recovery for your DW….and prayers for you as well. *hugs*

      • Hunker-Down says:


        Prayers for your DW. Rest, so your health is not harmed.

        • cosmolined says:

          Thank You All!
          I can’t rest, I have The Duty. (I sleep at the foot of her bed on the carpet with a pillow so I can hear when she tries to roll over. This is the 5th major spinal surgery, so I kind of have it down.) God Bless, Cos

          • Cos, you’re a good boy – seriously though, sounds like your wife has had a painful and trying time with her back…

            good on you for being the strong support she needs.

            God Bless you both, and prayers being sent your way for a speedy recovery. cheers.

          • Cosmolined,
            Praying for you both!

          • conmaze says:


            Prayers going up for a quick and full recovery. I went through back surgery and I learned a whole lot about my SO at the time….enough to know he would NOT become my DH, that’s for sure! lol It is in a woman’s nature to be nurturing, but takes a special man to be so supportive. Sleeping on the floor just so you can hear her move? You truly are a prince. (o:

          • Bam Bam says:


            I will keep you both in my prayers.

      • charliebuck says:

        Cos,hey bro,help your with is doing okay.Prayers for a speedy recovery.Be Safe and God Bless Ya.

        • cosmolined says:

          Thanks for the prayers! She is doing much better, I’m off the floor and have to keep reminding her not to push it. This is her last chance at having less pain…. God Bless, Cos

          • village idiot says:

            I’m sorry I missed the news on your wife, cos. Here’s hoping she continues to improve, and prayers for a quick recovery. And a result of no more chronic pain for her. Take care.

            • cosmolined says:

              Thanks Village, so far she’s doing much better. (She’s the toughest person I’ve ever seen.) Cos

  84. I'm A Prep Kat says:

    I had great prep week. I stopped at one of the Amish farms where I buy produce and she had the most amazing strawberries. I dried 4 quarts this weekend. A friend gave me 3 gallon size bags of frozen blue berries and some of those are drying now.

    We did some work on the chicken coop and planned two more raised garden beds.

    We started our Month Boxes. We came up with a list of the Bare Basics that had to go into each month:
    soap – body, shampoo, shaving; razors; toothbrushes and paste x4; TP; Feminine products x2; lge bottle of vitamines; OTC meds; 1 #10 can of milk, 5 lbs each of rice, wheat, oats and barly; tomato powder, bouillion, salt, herbs and spices.
    The first box is prettty stuffed, so maybe we need to use a larger one. We are going to try it next month and decide what we missed.

    Other obvious things like fruit, veg and meat will come from already stored or growing. Should be a good experiment.

    Take care ya’all.

    • Prep Kat…any lighters/matches in those boxes…cheers.

      • I'm A Prep Kat says:

        That’s exactly why I love this blog! We have each other’s backs! Didn’t even think about fire. Gotta put some beans in there too.

        • cosmolined says:

          Prep Kat:
          I put a P-38 can opener in each of my canned food cases too. Cos

  85. Today’s books: http://preputilityvehicle.blogspot.ca/2012/05/books-available-may-7-2012.html

    Today I bought a bunch of cases of canned food and a case of bottled water, also doubled up on a few things and sneaking the extras into storage. I already have a ton of home-canned food but I know it still wouldn’t last all that long in a family our size. Still have to clear out the storage area and figure out better shelving for canning. DH is not really into this so I’m kind of doing this on my own.

    Am reading One Second After, from the regular library. It’s well-written and giving me good ideas too.

  86. Bam Bam says:

    I just calculated the cost of homemade laundry detergent. I bought Fels Naptha for $1.09. I put $2.50 for washing soda and $2.50 for borax. I bought one for $1.99 and the other for $2.99 but can’t remember which is which. The cost per gallon is 32 cents. That’s with using one bar of Fels Naptha, one cup borax and one cup washing soda for a five gallon bucket.

    • worrisome says:

      So you are making a liquid soap for laundry? I was thinking it was a powdered recipe. And do you know if it would work in the new high efficiency type washers?

      • Bam Bam says:


        Yes, it works fine with the new HE washers. Here’s what you do. Grate the bar soap. Put some water on the stove. Put bar soap in water. Heat until grated bar soap dissolves.

        In the meantime put a gallon or so water in a five gallon bucket. When the soap in the pot on the stove has fully dissolved, pour in five gallon bucket. Add a cup of borax and a cup of washing soda. Fill up the rest of the bucket with water.

        This laundry soap doesn’t make suds so is perfect for the HE washer. BTW, suds are not necessary for cleaning.

  87. Hunker-Down says:

    After our votes are counted in Spain (has your state signed on yet?), it looks like we will have a class reunion;


    Now I feel woefully inadequate in the area of OPSEC. Where can we get proper OPSEC training?

    • Prepper RN says:

      Scary stuff for sure. More proof that ALL our govt is evil and been doing this for a very long time. What amazes me that the elite, whether in govt or ultra wealthy or the entertainers think will happen to all those that they know? If 80% of humans are going to be removed from the earth, do they really think that everyone they know andlove will be safe?

  88. i cant believe i forgot to mention it but our neighbor has an old wood stove in his barn- rusty but looks like it has all the parts- and a 8 K diesel generator- he is clearing out his place so we are going to see if he will sell cheap or give to us for the trouble of hauling it away-
    while we can we will maybe see about getting it professionally sandblasted and paint it with our outdoor furniture
    hubby also found some kind of tractor planting tools

  89. azyogi says:

    Heads up free shipping on orders over $50 from Coleman.

  90. mbcooke7 says:

    What did I do this week regarding prepping…hmm…

    I ordered a case of MREs. If anyone is interested, http://www.armygear.net has them, by the case, for $59.99 for twelve full, unopened meals. If you’re judicious in your consumption, you can spread one meal over two days (each MRE is 2000 calories). These also include the MRE heaters.

    Purchased another 100 rounds for my Zastava Arms M57 7.62×25 pistol. I also purchased a shotgun shell belt (25 rounds), and a shotgun scabbard that my Mossberg Maverick Model 88 security fits perfectly into, optics and all.

    This coming weekend I plan on upgrading my BoB to a large ALICE pack w/frame, and adding 2 pairs of BDUs to that.

    • cosmolined says:

      If you can select your ALICE pack in person, check the frame. I purchased one on line and the frame is very tweaked. Cos

      • Hawkeye says:
        • cosmolined says:

          Thanks for the heads-up, but I burned my bridge with the M-14 forum when I clicked on “Ignore” to meet single women in my area and got a full page of stuff with NO relation to weps or old men…. LAM. Cos

          • Hawkeye says:

            Hey cos……..
            Not sure I understand? You saying you got a sales pitch from some spam outfit while on the M14 Forum. Can’t even wrap my head around that one….haven’t seen anything like that while there………….oh well.

            • cosmolined says:

              On the right hand side, like JWR’s site, there was a large add to meet single women. When I clicked on the ignore button, I got a full page of them and couldn’t return to the forum. I typed the forum a pi$$y comment and deleted myself from them. That was last year…. Cos

            • cosmolined says:

              Adds like on JWR’s site, not meet single women…..

            • Hawkeye says:

              Anyway, the link I gave you was only incidental to the forum. One of their sponsers had a special on Alice packs (Large and Medium)…$30 range including excellent frames. A special that many of the commenters were very positive about.

              I had seen where you and (I believe) Charlie (NC) were consiering.

            • cosmolined says:

              I’d have given both of your thumbs for a new ALICE pack for $30! LOL Thanks for trying to help. I still have my original from Bragg but it is getting a bit rundown. The one I ordered online has a good pack, so I’ll use that on my frame. I was just trying to give a heads up in case someone was buying online…. God Bless, Cos

      • charliebuck says:

        Cosmo,I picked up an Alice pack awhile back from Midway USA.It is in excellent shape,and it was about $30.00,shipping included.In case anyone else is wanting one,or you want a”spare”.Be Safe Buddy.

  91. Surviving in Ky. says:

    Preps were a little off for the week. Got the 2 extra mags from 44 mag for the M1A. Also received 2 new magpul mags for the AR15. Bought 100 pounds of hard white wheat and sealed in mylar bags and buckets. Did manage to get the tomatoes, peas, carrots, and corn out. Potatoes are doing well but the bugs came up with them. LOL. Ordered more 308 rounds but are back ordered as are 223 on most sites. Looks as if the pack has been busy. Hope everyone is well and keep up the hard work. A prayer for all and God bless.

    • cosmolined says:

      Surviving in KY:
      If this was a slow week, I’d hate to have to keep up with you on a good one! Great job! God Bless, Cos

    • Hawkeye says:

      Surviving in KY….
      Your mention of the “M1A” caught my eye. Do you ever go to the “M14Forum” site? They have a “PX” section for M14 type rifle enthusiast. I recently bought ten M1A mags from an individual there. They were CMI mags, new in wrapper, for $212 delivered. 44Mag, which is a great source, was selling them for $27 each, last time I looked.

      How do you have your M1A set up?

      • Surviving in Ky. says:

        It is the national match model with a harris bi-pod and 4x14x56 springfield armory scope. I bought the stainless mags from 44 mag because a friend had bought some cheaper mags from cheaper than dirt and had feed problems. I have some cheaper mags but haven’t experienced the same problems yet. I figured since I had a few extra bucks I would buy a couple for now and some more later. I submit to the old saying of 2 is one and one is none. CMI makes great mags as well. I checked out the M14 Forum and didn’t have any luck on the px section but I am going to look at it again. 44 mag is the cheapest site I can find high quality mags on. They were 28 bucks a piece but are worth it in the end. God Bless!

        • Hawkeye says:

          Surviving in KY…
          Yes, if I were going to go buy some mags new at a retailer, THE ONLY PLACE I would go is to someone selling CMI.
          CMI is the present government contractor (only government contractor, I believe) and you can depend on their mags 100%. Ocasionally I happen on an old GI mag from one of the original contractors and I’ll always grab them up. I have OM, KMT, HR and W right now.
          I just happened to mention this particular purchase because I stumbled on a guy, in the Forum, who had some CMI mags, still NIW that were surplus to him and I got ten of them for $21.20 apiece delivered to my door step. A real bargain and luck of the Irish.
          I have two M14 types. One a Polytech rebuilt by Smith Enterprises. New bolt, trigger, sear, barrel, flash surpressor, gas lock, GI synthetic stock and hand guard. It’s set up with a Smith Enterprises mount and a Nikon 4-12X with Bullet Drop Compensator. The other is a Springfield Standard that I put a National Match Flash Surpressor, NM front and rear sight and GI synthetic stock and handguard on. I’m keeping this one, as-is, so I can shoot with iron sights.
          Both rifles have had their trigger groups tweaked to NM standards by Bill Springfield in Colorado Springs, CO. Bill is a real pleasure to deal with, if you haven’t already? He charged me $35 each and that included return freight and abot seven days turnaround time.
          These things are addictve!

          • Hawkeye says:

            Surviving in (KY)….
            By the way, I completely agree with you on “44 Mag”.
            As you may have noticed, they are a sponser on the M14 Forum?
            When last I looked, “44 Mag” was selling M14 mags for $27 delivered and for a “Premium” mag, that isn’t bad at all. I often see mags, in gun stores, that you can’t ID the origin of and that sell for $27.

            • cosmolined says:

              Before the “assault weapons” ban I bought a couple of what I thought were original M-14 mags still in the wrapper at a gunshow here in Kali. They were fake and only hold 18 rounds…. Never tried them at the range, I have several real U.S. Army mags.
              I think different than most folks. My accessories for my Springfield loaded are a spare bolt, (Head space checked), a spare trigger group and an extra op-rod. God Bless, Cos

  92. Bam Bam says:


  93. Bam Bam says:

    Oops. My computer froze up. Time to get rid of the cookies again. At any rate, I have played around with the soap calculator at Bramble Berry and have opted to make the following:

    3.8 ounces lye
    8.9 ounces water

    6 coconut oil
    6 palm oil
    11 olive oil
    2 jojoba oil
    2 caster oil

    This makes 39.7 ounces of soap and my mold is 40 ounces. If my scale arrives tomorrow, as its supposed to, I will make a batch of soap. I am really excited.

    • Hawkeye says:

      Bam Bam….
      Very nice piece on soap making. I’ve copied it for my binder.
      Here is something I stumbled on recently that I thought might be something you would like. It seems to be “right down your alley”. What do you think?

      Dehydrated hamburger is made by frying until well done, drain the grease, blot dry, rinse under hot running water, clean and dry the skillet, put back into the skillet, add favorite spices then fry again, drain any remaining grease and blot dry, line the dehydrator trays with wax paper, add hamburger and dehydrate until throughly dry—if using oven set it at 140—dry to hard rocks and store in double zip lock bags or clean quart jar. Toss in fluid to rehydrate and add to various meals.

      I don’t know how long the burger will keep. It’s probably largely dependent on the quality of the dehyeration process.

      • Bam Bam says:


        I have read about the hamburger rocks. It takes a lot of hamburger to get a tiny little rock. I didn’t trust the process. So if I want shelf stable meat, I am either going to can it or buy it already dehydrated. The hamburger rocks just don’t seem cost effective.

        Your comment reminded me that I bought a can of #10 beef flavored TVP. I am going to make some lasagna or something to try it out. I will sneak it in and see if my dh can tell the difference.

        • Hawkeye says:

          Bam Bam….
          I wonder if an awful lot of the stuff we try to “make” isn’t less expensive when we just buy it from a reliable source? I once made Pemican…ran all over town looking for seut from around beef kidney, then one place for this, another for something else, then spent hours on it. It worked and was actually pretty good but I’m not ready to try again.

          I have some TVP too. Picked up a case in the local Honeyville Farms store. It was six cans of various stuff, from beef and chicken to taco “fixins”. Haven’t tried it but maybe I should. I figured mixing it in with rice or pasta might be good?

          • Hawkeye says:

            Bam Bam….

            BTW, the amount you end up with after dehydrating is probably similar to what the manufacturers experience. I have little doubt that is why it’s so expensive!
            I guess the biggest advantage in making some would just be to experience another way of preserving meat.

  94. Hello to one and all…have just read through the posts…you guys have been busy…

    Have been sorting through my buckets – checking the rice is still viable – after someone posted last week of bugs – sent me off on my searching…all good still.

    Moved a lot of stuff around…and tidying stuff. Realized I really don’t need anymore stuff – opened up lots of suitcases/buckets…and glad I bought what I did when I did.

    – however, food/toiletries/cleaning stuff – that is another matter… these items require constant re-stocking.

    Dug up my little garden…not going to put anything in – am planning to be outdoors and camping while we have our lovely winters up here in the north.

    Car is now finally freshly re-loaded so I can go anywhere at a moment’s notice over the next 3 months – camping either at the beaches or going far inland.

    DD says I am walking faster when we go for our ‘walk the dogs’ walk…so, maybe I did get some benefit from my Rogaine weekend.

    On other matters..Oz has had its 26th and 27th boat load of illegal immigrants arrive this year…circa 240 persons on board…don’t know where they will be housed.

    Also, 650,000 Aussies are on waiting lists for dental work…and some have been waiting for between 2-5 years for treatment….shocking.

    Right now I have a stretchy tube thing on my head…can also be used as a neck warmer – or twist and fold back over – like a beanie…don’t know what they are called…$2 from thrift shop. Have seen them in camping/outdoors stores.

    Also, another 100 ‘AAA’ batteries for my headlamps/radios/flashlights.

    Made more candle wicks. Also made more candles in a jar, with a screw top and my thick wicks which result in 2″ flames.

    Other assorted bits and pieces…same ol’ same ol’ stuff.

    Best wishes to all…prayers to those who need them..I light my candle each morning when I have my cup of coffee…and you guys are in my prayers…

    as is Rusty the truck catching dog…

    Bama Becca…read an article recently that 110,000 vets are encouraged to self-medicate on alcohol – thinking of your pain and anguish.

    If I missed any new wolf cubs – welcome.

    Strength and courage to the pack and lurkers…cheers.

    • cosmolined says:

      Good to hear from you. When you don’t comment for the first 4 or 5 days I look at Airline tickets for Jarhead to come bail you out! God Bless, Cos (Jarhead, you can stand down….)

    • gremlins again…but have copied post…let’s see what happens…
      Cos, you are so funny…burst out laughing at your post…

      For some reason, seem to be busy at the start of the weeks…and your Saturday – when the new post starts, is my Sunday…and I normally log on after 4pm – or I am on the laptop most of the day. So, it is like a 2 day delay before my post makes it…

      Remember, if I don’t comment for a long time – then, yes, something will be wrong – as I am hooked on this blog…everyone’s different personalities are awesome –

      I will definitely write/post and let you guys know if I am going to be offline for any length of time.

      Re Jarhead…he seems to be evolving into everyone’s hero – organized prep list, gun guru, can put in an I.V. line, fire extinguishers everywhere, like I have my zombieknickers, carries feminine hygiene products for all, push-ups – simply amazing, and inspiring.

      I’m off to the big smoke later this evening hopefully, if not too tired – that is why am posting now (1400hours Wed). Don’t know when I will be back – 2-4 days maybe…(taking my laptop and wireless with me so I can see what you guys are all up to).

      cheers…and God Bless.

    • village idiot says:

      chloe, another busy week I see. It was shocking to see the number of people in Australia waiting for dental work. Is there a shortage of dentists there?

      I’ve been noticing the flood of illegals you are getting, and one hopes people in Australia take note of how badly this same situation has turned out in the US. And if news reports are accurate, a large number of them are Muslims, who are difficult to acclimate to another culture. Maybe I’m wrong, I hope so.

  95. Diver Gal (s. Fla) says:

    Hey Wolfpack,

    I’m baaa-aaack after a bit of a sabattical from everything except work. I had to hire a couple of divers and what a crazy road that was. 847 resumes received, about a third of which had no diving/boating experience, a couple offering to get certified in order to get the job. It’s sad so many people are so desperate for work that they are applying for jobs that they are in no way qualified for. Needless to say it was a frustrating couple of weeks between that and readying the new boat with equipment. (Still have to finish building tank racks)

    As for prepping for the last two weeks….

    8 jars tomato sauce
    10 lbs of pasta
    4 large jars of peanut butter
    10 boxes of milkbones to entice the dog out of the water

    There’s probably more, I don’t think its been THAT slow of two weeks but on 3 hours of sleep thats all I can remember right now. I have so much reading to catch up on here but all I can think about is taking a nap. Some days it sucks to me reminded my body isnt 23 anymore.

    Happy prepping all! Cant wait to catch up on all that Ive missed.


    • Diver Gal…you have been busy…get that sleep…cheers.

    • village idiot says:

      Glad to have you back, DG. Sounds like you’ve been pretty busy going over applications and getting boats ready. I envy you in some ways, especially being able to get out on the water. You’ve inspired me to go fishing tomorrow. Have a great rest of the week.

  96. Anonymous Prepper says:

    My biggest accomplishment this week is learning the electronics behind solar energy. I ordered a bunch of cheap broken solar cells to practice on to eventually make my own panels. I want to practice on the cheap stuff so I dont mess up on the unbroken ones I will order later.

    Added some tools to my growning collection.

    Switched from expensive store cigarettes to buying bags of tobacco and filter tubes to make my own for about $5 a carton. This serves two purposes. #1 saving TONS of money to use on preps, and #2 I smoke alot less because I have to make them myself. They also taste better and dont have all those chemicals you dont know what the heck they put in the others.

  97. Papabear says:

    Greetings to the Wolf Pack and lurkers.

    M.D. – sure like the miscellany entries.

    Only thing here the past week has been to dust off the weights and get plenty of exercise. Got lazy over winter, put on pounds and until last week hadn’t done much about it.

  98. ILBeck says:

    I have been lurking for several months, learning lots from everyone’s posts. Thanks for all the great info and to MD for a great site! I’m wondering, does anyone have any advice for getting your spouse on board? I have been trying to stock up on food and toiletries but it sure would be easier if my DH was on the same page. He doesn’t have the same sense of urgency that I’m feeling these days. Thoughts??

  99. Bam Bam says:

    I made soap today! It traced in less than five minutes using a stick blender. My calculations for the soap molds were perfect. I will take it out of the mold tomorrow morning. Yea!

    I made a batch of lavender and a batch of ylang-ylang. I am so excited.

    • cosmolined says:

      Bam Bam:
      Wow! Congratulations!!! (Will you marry me?) ROTFL… Cos

      • Bam Bam says:

        Haha, Cosmo. I am writing up an article on soap making right now. It’s already three pages single spaced. And I still have a lot more to write about. Soap making is really easy once you know what you are doing.

      • alikaat says:

        Nice work, BamBam! I’m planning on a batch this weekend. I’m trying to decide on a scent/additive in the water to make it smell nice, something that is sustainable. Pine, perhaps? I could extract from the strong-smelling juniper or blue spruce in my yard using isopropanol… maybe make another attempt to extract essence using olive oil or perhaps something lighter… then decide which smells more strongly? There are probably resources on the net for these kind of questions.

        • Bam Bam says:


          You can make a batch of tea (peppermint, rose, etc.), let it cool down and use that as your water.

    • wow Bam Bam…good on you…first time and success. Looks like your talents lay in this direction, and leave the sauerkraut for another time…

      prepping is enriching our lives in so many areas.


      • Bam Bam says:


        I just took my first two batches of soap out of the molds and they look perfect. I emailed my mom to see what scents she liked and she was so excited about the soaps. She wants me to make soaps for everyone in her office so she can give them out as Christmas gifts–my first large order. (She runs a mortgage company.) I just have to make a list of ingredients for her to buy at Bramble Berry.

    • conmaze says:

      Bam Bam,

      Congratulations – Very cool! Can’t wait to read the article. And the guy that made the mold for you now has the pattern and could make more – a new skill for him to barter with after tshtf (as long as he could do it all with hand tools).

      • Bam Bam says:


        Yes, he is a woodworker by trade and inherited all his father’s old-time (non electric) hand tools. He actually knows how to use them. I mentioned to him that if society collapses he can bring his guns over here and help us defend the homestead. (His home is in foreclosure because of an ongoing divorce.)

  100. conmaze says:

    I’ve had a few slow weeks. Bronchitis was dragging me down – tired – sore ribs from coughing so much – meds that made me feel weird. Had to conserve whatever energy I had to spread between work and taking care of grandson. Finally feeling a little better with a little more energy. Being sick really sucks.

    I dragged myself to the gun show to get my safety training, fingerprints and photo for my concealed weapons license. Now I have to get it in the mail. I was so overwhelmed at that show not knowing anything about anything – looked like a deer in the headlights, I’m sure. I did find a few Glock 19s and got to hold one in my hand to “feel” it. It felt good. I held what they called the “baby Glock” with the shorter grip – too small and felt off balance. The best price I found was $499.

    I still haven’t gotten my 20 gauge. I went to Walmart to order what I thought they offered, only to find Walmart only has the Mossberg youth in pink and camo. Sorry, but I would feel embarassed walking onto the range with either one of those. I’ve read (here ?) that the Remington youth is also good. I don’t know enough to know the difference in the two. Is one more expensive than the other? I really should go to a gun shop and just delve in, ask questions and move on. When I get overwhelmed I sometimes freeze – that’s where I am right now when it comes to guns. I really need someone in the know to go gun shopping with!

    I stopped at a yard sale and picked up eight black three-ring binders (to get my printed material organized), a clay garlic roaster that goes in the microwave (love these!) and a folding Sterno brand stove – all for $3. Purchased some wire shelving units two weeks ago to get a little more organized (boxes are still in the back of my car lol)

    From the garden: Picking a quart of strawberries each day and freezing what I don’t eat on the walk home from the garden; snap peas still going, albeit slowly from the heat; yellow wax beans just coming in and green beans will be coming in next week; finally got some squash plants to germinate and are actually growing a little (way behind schedule); volunteer watermelon vine has the first melon about the size of a softball; tomatoes are looking good, just behind the normal schedule; kale left from the fall/winter garden still going strong and looks beautiful and lush; corn is now past the knee-high stage – yay!

    A friend’s 26-year-old son is undergoing cancer treatment and there is going to be a HUGE benefit yard sale at one of the local parks at the end of the month. I will be donating tons of stuff to help them out (and free up some space in the house) I’m hoping to find some prepping bargains too. I feel so far behind in my prepping plans. I will have to play catch-up over the next few weeks.

    Question for the Pack: I want to get rid of Comcast (cable/internet/home phone. ) I have the bundle package right now and w/me, DD and DGS having DVRs in our bedrooms, our bill is out of sight. I plan on getting a digital antenna for local network stations, but I do love the History Channel, Discovery, A&E, etc., and movies. I know about Hulu and Netflix and all of that. Does anyone have a Roku box? What other kinds of setups do y’all have? I can’t be the only one here that’s fed up with the $$$. I’m looking into a Verizon hot spot for internet. Don’t care about not having a landline phone. I hardly use it anyway. Everyone calls me on my cell. I’m looking for any suggestions or help from anyone. Again, I feel like the deer in the headlights. Between the gun issues and electronics issues, I sometimes wish I had man around the house! Let me emphasize the word “sometimes” LOL

    I don’t remember who posted it, but I like the two-month scenario – what would you prioritize for your preps if you knew you only had two months to get ready. Gets you thinking. That’s why I love my pack family!

    Blessings to all.

  101. Pineslayer says:

    Question for the pack.

    I always use protection for my ears when I shoot, duh. Without going thru the permit process for silencers, how many of you have hearing protection at the ready for home invasions? This may seem like a stupid concern, but don’t want to be deafened by my artillery. Been down the road of ear ringing, it sucks. I guess I could have it there if time allows and if it doesn’t, then deal with it. Is there an option I haven’t considered?

    • Bam Bam says:


      If there’s someone in my home I am not going to be looking for my ear protection. If its nighttime you may need to hear where the guy is and ear protection would interfere with this.

    • Papabear says:


      I have in the ear hearing protection on the nightstand, and something in the drawer that will make some noise 😉

      The Russian military does not issue hearing protection to their soldiers. They teach them to shoot with their mouth open.

      The eustachian tube runs from the back of the throat to the middle ear. By opening your mouth it allows the sound to partially neutralize itself. This technique works whether you have hearing protection or not.

      You will have to practice of course. It will help if you don’t have time to put in/ put on protection. You could also have ear plugs or ear muffs stashed where your personal artillery is stored, giving you both a reminder and availability.

  102. charlie (NC) says:

    Papabear, that’s a good tip on the open mouth and a new one on me.
    Thanks, I’ll be trying it out.

  103. MtWoman says:

    Heads up people: X-class solar flares are possible in the next 24-48 hours. If ya gots a faraday, might be time to load it.

    Here’s info: “Scientists classify solar flares using three categories: C, M and X, with C-class solar flares being the weakest and X class solar flares being the strongest. NOAA is forecasting a 65% chance of M-class solar flares and a 10% chance of X-class solar flares over the next 24 to 48 hours.

    The chance for solar flares and Earth-directed coronal mass ejections will be at elevated levels as long as the large sunspot region is on the Earth-facing side of the sun. Since the sun takes 26 days to make one full revolution at the equator, the monster sunspot region will continue to be a threat to Earth for at least the next 13 days.”

    …from here:


    And more info here: http://www.spaceweather.com/

  104. Lee (tx) says:

    Just finished M.D.’s “31 Days to Survival”, it is helping me to catch up and not get shell shocked,,, lots to do.
    Thanks M.D.

    • Lee (tx)

      Thank you – I’m glad that you liked my book. If you have any questions feel free to ask…

      • Lee (tx) says:

        well, I did send you an email a few days ago asking how to get a copy of your earlier CD and your book ” When the World Ends As you know it”, I came across both being talked about as I read the Achives.

  105. This week
    1. purchased a box of 9mm ammo for my g26, for a shoot this weekend
    2. added a bag of nuts and raisins in my BOB, also conditioning my BOB for the coming rainy (=flood and typhoons!) season
    3. made and tried a coke can alcohol stove and it worked, now an drawing to have one made from stainless steel from local craftsman for my BOB
    4. Have my old surefire fixed from a gun shop, actually happy to find one that can do here (am in an Asian country)
    5. Got a book, “Campfire Cuisine” form a second-hand book sale and adding to my library of survival books, now three (ha ha ha) dont worry MD, your books are in my hot list and will save for those!
    6. added more scanned documents (lot titles, etc) and music to my 250 gb external drive…I am scanning docs. loading video and music for my future reference so in a SHTF scenario, I have a back up file of these in a retrievable media. Well there are more expensive 1 or 2 terabytes external HD but they are still far from my budget…and I havent even used half of my memory space..
    sorry to bore you with a poor man’s third world prep, have little left after enrolling my three kids in their schools. Have a happy prep week!

    • Hunker-Down says:


      Please fill us in on EVERYTHING you need to do where you don’t have the everyday items we in the states have easy access to. Knowing how you solve those problems are important to us, because good times, they ain’t on the way.

      How do the locals overcome problems in their daily lives?

      • Bam Bam says:

        I second H-D’s request. I am really interested in what people in other countries are doing, especially in a third-world country. Doods, the U.S. is on a path of economic destruction. We may end up as a third-world country. I am eager to learn all I can from people like you.

    • mountain lady says:

      Doods, you did not bore me with your post. Some of us on here are not in very good financial shape, just like you. In fact, I have to leave for food distribution as soon as I post this. I do this every Thursday, and it really helps a lot. We all do what we can, when we can, so keep up the good work and keep us posted on your progress.

      • Hunker Down, Bam Bam and Mountain Lady, thanks for your comments. Right now our country is in better position to improve because our new leadership is known to be honest and incorruptible. Our biggest concern now are the Chinese who are bullying us and now annexing some islands within our 200 inclusion zone. We have nothing to fight them with, and even claimed our country is theirs! So my prepping now is doubled and am looking at the province as my true back up BOL and have sent guidance on preparations. We have more chickens and goats now, and more part of our land are cleared for planting, lucky we are in the south where we have volcanic soil, fertile and practically, anything will grow…my sister’s familyis triving there.
        Hunker Down, my countrymen have been thru a lot, but its really the past corrupt governance that put us down. Our agriculture based economy has cheaper food and you get them just about anywhere. Its only in the cities that american style malls and fastfood abound, but the provinces are more livable, if your lifestyle is simple. Water can still be had for free, we have vast coastlines and people lived fishing on summer and planting rice on rainy seasons…I shall send out a more detailed post on our survival methods, I shall write it in text and send to MD again…Thanks “Packmates”, you guys push me to do well on this. God Bless!

  106. With all of the great information out there among the Wolf Pack, it would be great to have a once a year get together to exchange ideas among members.

    • cosmolined says:

      Liledoun Prep:
      I think OPSEC concerns would make you the only person at the get together. These are times to keep your mouth shut and stack it deep. (Just sayin’). God Bless, Cos

  107. this is a big deal for me- i canned for the first time ever- i canned 16 pints of green beans- did 8 and they pinged!!!! so i did 8 more and 2 of banana peppers and 2 of jalapenos- i am so excited am going to do pickles and squash this weekend- hubby is out in the garden picking more veggies- our garden is doing really well for our first year. also have not “repackaged” our grains yet but hopefully will this weekend or next week- i am going to buy some more rice and beans- i have been noticing the large bags are disappearing at our grocery store- has anyone else seen this situation?

    • Bam Bam says:


      Congratulations on learning to can. It’s always great to learn a new skill.

      • Congrats, I hope I can learn that too…one survival skill we all need. am starting to learn pickling, well our country’s style. so am saving lots of pre-used bottle and jars for it….bamboo shoots, coconut shoots, vegetables like papaya, chili pepper, fruits are pickled in my country. My sister learned from my mother and promised to teach me too once I go back to our hometown!

        • Bam Bam says:


          Please up a post on how you pickle. I would love to hear about that, especially on pickling fruit.

  108. I put the books up on the blog early this morning but forgot I hadn’t put the link here also. Hopefully those who are really interested are checking there anyway. (MD, I finally sent a reply.)


    • Hey it's Dave says:

      I check your link a couple times a day. Thanks for the effort but I gotta tell ya some of those Fiction books are real downers. -)


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