Preparedness Containers

This is a guest post BY JD

I have a few containers that I find to be invaluable for me in my journey to being a more prepared person and I would like to share them with you all.

The first container is the stainless steel water bottle that is becoming very common. Most of these bottles come in either the natural shiny color of steel or are painted with some kind of bright colors. So the first thing to consider doing is painting your bottle with black, high-temp grill paint.

I suggest that you paint the bottles with this specific paint for two reasons. First, the paint will allow the bottle to more readily absorb heat from the sun, thus the bottle can be used as a solar cooker or be used to keep heated food warm. You can also boil water in the same bottle as long as you leave the lid off.

The second reason for painting this bottle is for OPSEC (Operations security). If you are in a bug-out or some other type of high-threat situation, the black paint will keep light reflecting off of your bottle and possibly giving away your position.

The second container is the stainless-steel thermos. It has many of the same characteristics as the previously mentioned water bottle, but with a distinct advantage. The advantage is that it will keep food warm without having to be in the sun or over the fire. Also, many thermos bottles have a greater capacity so they can hold a greater amount. The thermoses will need to be painted with the black, high-temp grill paint aswell.

I also believe that thermos bottles have a significant OPSEC use as well. Having a thermos for me and everyone in my group allows us to cook just one large meal that can be stored in our thermos bottles and eaten throughout the day. This idea came to me last year as I was walking through the camp ground that we were spending the week at. We were coming from the swimming area where we had spent most of the day and I was very hungry.

Because I was “hungry”, I had an idea of which campsites were already cooking dinner before I ever approached them. If I can do this, how much more so can someone who is truly hungry and has not eaten for several days? Cooking just once a day and then quickly moving out after doing so greatly increases OPSEC in a SHTF-type scenario plus conserves fuel during ordinary situations.

The third container that I will go into detail about at this time is the white, food-grade buckets. The advantages of these types are many but I will only mention three specifically.

The first and most obvious use is a food storage container. You can keep Mylar bags in your preps and then use them inside of these buckets to store bulk food items such as beans, rice, corn, wheat, etc. You can also store food items inside of the buckets in their original containers and then stack the buckets on top of each other.

This allows you to store a lot of items in a small space. Also, you can pack many different things in these buckets ahead of time and then quickly load them in your vehicle should you need to bug-out in a hurry.

Water storage and transportation is another good advantage of these buckets. Most of these buckets come in the 3-1/2 and 5 gallon size. I can handle the 5 gallon size easily but, for my wife and children, the 3-1/2 gallon size is easier for them. Also, it seems that the 3-1/2 gallon size is the more common one if you’re obtaining these buckets from a bakery.

In a grid-down situation, most of us will not be running our hose from the spigot to water our garden and animals so the buckets are good resource for us to do our necessary watering.

A third distinct advantage of the plastic buckets is container gardening. I have several buckets set aside for this purpose. I have drilled several small holes in the bottom of each and have lined them with a small amount of gravel. I have grown several kinds of plants in the buckets but have also found some limitations as well. For the smaller, 3-1/2 gallon buckets, I have found that most tomatoes and vine-type plants do not do well.

Smaller tomato varieties such Romas and cherry tomatoes do pretty good and I have done OK with one or two kinds of cucumbers as long as I keep them trimmed and use multiple stakes and ties. I am still experimenting with other vegetables to find what works best in my area.

However, if you do choose to do this kind of gardening then you need to be adding compost on a regular basis as some nutrients will to run out of the bottom if you are watering sufficiently.

Another thing I really like about container gardening in buckets is that I actually get to start gardening earlier in the year. I start my plants in smaller containers and then transfer to the buckets. I can then bring the buckets outside during the sunny part of the day and bring them in at night to protect them from the colder weather at night.

For 15-20 buckets it only took me about 20 minutes a day to do this. This is also an advantage during a SHTF-type event due to the plants being secure inside of my building or garage at night. This also helps to limit the damage from animals, especially rabbits, deer and dogs.

Before I finish this article, I do need to give honorable mention to a few other containers. Mylar bags were already mentioned previously and another bag I like is burlap bags. They are fairly inexpensive and alarge number can be stored in a small area.

These make great sandbags and can be used to store many of the differen troot vegetables. Metal and wooden ammo cans/boxes have a multitude of uses besides just storing ammo with metal ammo cans being used as Faraday cages to store sensitive electronics if one of the events that you are planning for is a solar flare or EMP-type event. 2-liter soda bottles have many uses as well,such as water treatment and storage, growing herbs or starting seeds and for making self-watering units for container gardens.

Also consider the thick, heavy garden-style trash bags. There are multiple uses for these bags, not the least of which is to make emergency shelters in a survival situation.

This article is by no means meant to be an exhaustive list. You need to decide what containers are most valuable to you based on what type of situations that you and your family are preparing for. I hope and pray that this article is helpful to at least some of you in your decisions.

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Comments

  1. Best idea I’ve heard in a long time – cook up and give everyone their own vacuum flask. Will definitely be doing this. I’m going to be careful though about not eking out the last bit to eat later once the temperature has dropped a bit. If I’m eating out of it with a long spoon or fork and then close it up again there are going to be millions of bacteria multiplying in that nice warm medium and the squits will ensue.

    My other favourite containers are mesh bags. They are silent and light weight and stay in a pocket till needed. I bought a few metres of soft black mesh (1cm holes) and made up various sizes of drawstring bags, now in routine daily use.

    • amaranth,
      You probably shouldn’t eat out of the container for the reason you gave, but that’s where one of my favorite containers comes in. The Sierra Cup, inexpensive and generally made from stainless steel. The wire handle keeps it managable when placed into a fire to melt snow or cook food, and using it as a bowl means you don’t double dip into your insulated bottle with the contaminated spoon.

  2. Good article. Another container I like are the specialized fabric pots you can buy for container gardening. They produce great crops and you can not over water as you can with plastic containers. They come in various sizes to accommodate different vegetables.

  3. Carl in W.V. says:

    Ok fellow preppers I need some help with some questions about buckets. I know you can not tell a food grade bucket buy any code on the bottom or number in the recycle symbol you have to call the manufacturer. I know that non-food grade buckets are exactly the same as far as the bucket is concerned it is the mold release agent that was used to make the bucket that makes it toxic or not. Ok that being said can I use a new bucket from my Wal mart or Home Depot and just pack my non-food grade bucket with stuff in Mylar bags. Is the release agent so toxic it will seep through the Mylar bags and kill me. And when am I going to die from the toxins in the bucket my mom used to store flour and cornmeal in years ago.

    • Carl,
      I get my food grade buckets at the Wal-Mart Bakery. The mixes and dough etc used by the bakery come in them. Their liability is too great to use anything for that purpose except food grade, so I believe we can trust using them.

      • Carl in W.V. says:

        Thanks Big Mac but my walmart does not have a bakery, as a matter of fact it is the smallest super center I have ever seen. We have a Mcdonalds and a mom and pop Hardware store. There is no place within 38 miles to find a bucket. Saying we are a geographical oddity is an understatement. Thats why I am wondering about those Walmart non-food grade buckets and Mylar bags. And yes I have gotten a couple pickle buckets from Micky Ds and no the smell really doesn’t go away.

        • Yeah I would like some more info on those release agents.. I have been using my foodsaver and bagging stuff to put into home depot buckets. Can’t be any different than Rubbermaid totes, I am sure they use the same release agents. Maybe we have a chemist or chemical engineer among us to help with this topic. But the stuff I have stored is for long term so I guess I would starve if did not eat it so if it is toxic at least I will die with a full stomach.

        • Hi Carl. I have an almost endless supply of those smelly pickle buckets from one of the fast food joints. I learned to open them up, rinse them lightly, then set them outside directly under our back porch eaves. Eventually, rainwater will fill those buckets and we let them sit with water for a few days, then dump the water out, rinse, then lightly scrub them with a baking soda and water “paste”. The final washing is with Dawn liquid detergent, then a final rinse. Maybe it’s a combo of the airing out and the rainwater that fills the buckets, but that’s how I do it.

          • Encourager says:

            To get the last of that pickle smell, when the bucket is dry stuff it with newspapers and close it up for two weeks. That should do the trick.

        • Dont know if you have them in your area, but I get buckets from Firehouse Subs. They sell them for $2 and the money goes to support fire departments. I know you can usually find them for free, but as an old firefighter, it hits in the heart.

      • Jim (Ohio) says:

        Ive got many mylar bags of food stored in buckets that may or may not be food-grade. I think the general consensus is that if the bags are impermeable to gases and water, they are also impermeable to any chemical that may be present in the bucket. Some prefer to use food grade buckets anyway, just to be safe- but it doesn’t concern me at all. Although, if SHTF, foodgrade buckets would be more useful to do things such as carry water, store other food in, etc- without the need for mylar bags.

        • The non food grade ones are fine as long as the food doesn’t come into direct contact witht he plastic. I talked to a manufcaturer of those buckets in Edmonton a few years ago and they said really they are the same except for the release gent which was found to be mildly toxic in several studies. He said not to but wet or liquid foods in the non-food grade ones and mylar line the ones I was putting dry goods in.

    • Carl,

      I just bought white buckets at lowes that are labeled food grade. Not the grey ones. They had a big yellow sticker stating food grade.

      • Carl in W.V. says:

        Guy’s and gal’s can’t thank yall enough. Mr. Creekmore you and your site are #1 in my book. I have asked that question to several people and several prepper sites even the guru site. this is the first time i have gotten a real answer. Don’t get me wrong i’m not knocking the “guru site” I will call it, if it was not for that site i would not started prepping. I Still read it everyday and this one too since i found it a month ago. This site the people are real working class people. As for the guru site seems like they have too much money and trying to find a place to spend it. Keep it real fellow preppers and I’ll keep reading.

  4. Schatzie Ohio says:

    What? No mention of the large juice and 20 oz soda bottles. I use the juice bottles for storage of rice or beans and the smaller soda (or water) bottles for split peas or lentils.

  5. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    And the ubiquitous peanut butter plastic jar, tougher n’ hell and makes for a great container which can be gained for free after emptying contents. Also thinking a few of the 2 liter bottles strung to a simple platform can help float a small raft with items you don’t want to get immersed when crossing a body of water.

    • Yeah, love the peanut butter and the jar.
      I do have to soak and wash them several times to get the peanutty aroma out but they sure are nice to store food in.
      I also on the ones that I am keeping stuff stored in for any length of time, I use that press and seal as a gaskety type seal.
      Sometimes though the lid will eat it up (more often on glass type jars). But all in all works pretty well.

  6. It surely seems that the more I squirrel things away, the more containers I have or lust for! Around here, we have many feed bags and although they’re not reused for preparedness in a direct-storage sense, we keep them and use them as trashcan liners or as a bag to simply haul trash in. Livestock feed, dog food, cat food — save those bags and use them when/if you run out of other large bags.

    Fabric drawstring bags are used around here and I make all of them. It surely saves on buying plastic bags which I don’t even like to use. Also, in warm weather, fabric bags that have been dampened will be better for freshly picked produce than plastic bags. And they look nice, too. :-)

    Schatzie Ohio mentioned large juice and soda bottles as being able to store food. I have always saved glass jars of all sizes for storing beans, mixes, powders, and herbs in.

    Your thermos idea for individual meals is a wonderful tip! BCTruck got my attention about 2 months ago with his thermos cooking and your idea makes this method of cooking even more important.

    Very good article.

    • Hi Lynn, You got my attention with the idea of the cloth bags. I wash and keep all size jars, not for pressure canning or storage; but, for giving away. I am tired of not getting my quart and pint canning jars back when I share food with friends and neighbors.

    • Just make sure on your cloth bags that you wash them after every use? Food can have bacteria in it and it may continue to grow after you empty them out. There was some cases of e coli here in California that confused the health folks for a while. It started with some green onions that had e coli, but it was hard for them to roll back to that because long after the green onions were identified and pulled, the cloth bags were still contaminating other food that they had been in.

      • Encourager says:

        Worrisome, well that scares me! If we are buying produce from the stores, then we should wash out re-usable grocery bags each time. Never thought of that!

  7. Really like it when we get into how to store stuff.
    This was good. Helps everyone especially the novice.

  8. They make 55 gallon drums with thread on lids that have oring seals. They are great for storing things, I filled one with water then inverted it and it never leaked over a whole month. So I figure it won’t leak easily when burried. I ropped it into a whole about 18 inches deepr than the barrel height. Then fill the barrel with stuff that won’t freeze or perish and drop it into the hole. Cover with 18 inches of dirt and some paver stones and you have a hard to find cache.

  9. riverrider says:

    jd, shoot, thanks for reminding me about the thermos!

  10. SrvivlSally says:

    JD, Containers are a life-saver. I like kitty litter jugs because they are good for pouring used motor oil into, storing fresh water in, melting or drilling holes in their lids to create plastic watering cans, without holes they would work as floatation devices for lightweight items, filling them with a bit of gravel and the corners of a tarp can be weighed down and cutting a slit in the cap will create a bank to hold loose change. Although I do not dye my hair, the bottles can be washed and rinsed clean before filling them with oil, ink, paint and clothing dye as their tips may provide a user with greater application precision. Empty margarine containers are ideal for putting nails, screws, tacks, washers, nut, bolts, fishing equipment and other small items inside and also writing pertinent info. about the contents on the side and/or lid in permanent black marker. Large plastic coffee cans are useful for putting a roll of twine inside, running one end through a hole in the center of the lid and taping a portion of the string to the lid or body of the container to prevent it from trying to join the rest of the roll. In a survival situation, having burlap bags is a necessity because their threads can be extracted to make rope, a pair of strings for shoes, belts and ghillie (camouflage) suit or attached together to make a cover to hide a vehicle, a cart or anything that needs to go undetected.

  11. I never buy buckets.You can get all you need for free from restaurants and fast food places.Bakeries are also good.

  12. Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

    My favorite container is the Pelican Case. These things are expensive, but they are made in the USA, they are tough as nails, they are very well-built, waterproof, and the lid is clear so you can see what’s in the case without opening it.

    I store a lot of batteries and use Pelican Cases to separate the different battery sizes and types since the Cases come in various sizes, too. Then I put them into the refrigerator to help extend the batteries’ viability

    The first aid kit I put together for the car is also a Pelican Case. It has a carbiner on it so it clips to a backpack or to a belt and will keep your hands-free.

    • hey lint..where did you find those Pelican Cases?

      • The cheapest place I ever found the small clear lidded pelican cases is at office depot, though ebay was a close second.

        The pelican brand flashlights are really a good buy also. For my larger pelican cases I’ve found ebayis still cheaper with shipping than my local distributor. They also make some really nice firearms cases.

      • Lint Picker (Northern California) says:

        Hi breadmomma. I’ve bought almost all of my Pelican cases from Amazon. If you don’t want to spend that much on them, you can buy a pretty good facsimile at Walmart – fishing dept. The cases in Walmart are made in China and are a very close knock-off.

    • Lint….

      I’m surprised you don’t have a “Pelican Building” to store the batteries you’ll need for all those flashlights!!!!

  13. Thank you for all of the comments about this article. I am glad to hear that it was beneficial to several of you.

    If I was doing a follow-up article on this subject, I would definitely include the Rubbermaid style totes and the food-grade 55-gallon drums.

    I actually have some of our bug-out preps stored in Rubbermaid totes so that we can just load and go. This is especially helpful to my wife and kids in case they may have to initially bug-out without me. They know where the totes are and the totes can be quickly loaded by them into our vehicle. There are some other people that I know that have their totes numbered based on how they will load the totes into their vehicle. Just another thought.

    As far as the drums go, I am in the process of piping our sump pump discharge into one or two of these drums that will also be connected to the downspout on the back of the house. I also plan on storing water in at least 3 drums in my basement.

    • SrvivlSally says:

      You really ought to do a follow-up because you have some really good ideas worth telling about.

    • JD
      Where are you picking up 55 gal food grade barrels.
      (Are they free or what is the your cost, if you d not mind me asking)
      I doubt you live in my area, but it might give me an idea
      where to look.. I know of places to buy them new. Close buy
      but are out of my price range right now..
      Or mabey you located near a large food processing plant??
      Thanks

      • I got all of them free. I used to know a guy who works at the local coke bottling plant and they used to use white ones with full removable lids for syrup and beet sugar (the sweetener in Canada, in the US they use corn syrup). Now they get syrup in ones with just a 2″ bung and the sugar comes in 100lb sacks. So that source dried up. He says it’s much harder to clean all the syrup out of the ones with the bung than the full end ones.

        I also have a blue one which was a bit of a one off thing. A friend gave it to me. He got it when the place he worked was called in to clean out all the stuff from a failed chinese take out place. He worked for a repo company, any food they were supposed to dump in the garbage.The barrel had nearly a foot of rice in it. He knew I was collecting the barrels for a project unrelated to prepping back then (early 90’s) and so he gave it to me. I took the barrel to the womens shelter and donated the rice out of it.

        Luckily for my prepping the bunch of barrels I collected ithe 90’s never got used for the project and when I moved at one point I stuffed them all in a storage locker for 8 years.

        I looked on the web and most places are asking about 100 for a new FDA one. I found one site that was $30 each but they are the clamp type lids instead. No idea how they are to deal with as i’ve never bought from them but the prices seem good.
        http://www.arizonabarrels.com/55_gallon_open_top_barrels_drums.html

      • I have found them on Craig’s list. I am in the central Ohio area so Columbus is close by. There are several food manufacturers there and they sell them for about $25.00-30.00 each.

        • JD just don’t buy too many at one time as a cop friend was helping me move once and saw my empty ones and asked if I was planning on starting a grow op.

        • I am in central Ohio Also We have a lot of food manufactures in fact I think we have from beer to Pepsi bottlers.. Well we used t have the on 670 bakery Wonder bread. Now I am thinking we have some bread bakeries out in newark and some other places.
          Guess I have just not looked much..
          I will have to do some looking if you have any name of the companies it would be appreciated….

  14. NerdyJohn in (AL) says:

    I recently started purchasing 5 gallon pickle buckets from our local Fire House Sub shop. They are red in color and have a nice o-ring seal. The cost is only $2 each and they give that money to charity. As for the pickle smell, my greatest success so far has been to fill the bucket with bird seed and use that as my bird seed container for a cycle or two. The bird seed gets the smell completely out!

  15. I am looking to get a carafe or two to add to my preps. In case you don’t know, these are the insulated pitchers (sp?) that can keep your coffee, water, etc, hot for hours. I have found in no electricity situations that hot water is great to have around. With a carafe, you can put boiled water in it so you have a source for hot water for most of the day without having to boil water every time you need it.

  16. to get the pb smell from plastic jars – wash well with hot soapy water, rinse and then sprinkle some baking soda in it and wash again – smell should be gone. If not, sprinkle with more baking soda, cap, let sit overnight, rinse and should be fine.

    For the 5-gallon buckets. We drill drainage holes 1″-2″ up from the bottom around the bucket, maybe 5 or 6. Filling to just above the holes with gravel or Styrofoam chunks semi-flatten cans, etc then the growing medium. This makes for a water reserve and causes the plants to grow deep roots and less watering.

    • Bellen – reservoir of water at the bottom of the bucket sounds like a very cunning plan. I’m definitely going to experiment with that in the spring.

    • I use a drill bit with minimum size of 1/2 inch to put at least 6 holes on the bottom and 6 more around the bottom part of the side of the bucket. Brad point bits, which are designed for fine hardwoods, are the easiest to use. My plant containers sit on rock or concrete, so they don`t plug up easily. Holes on sides are overkill for4 my use, but critical if you put buckets on dirt.

      Bottom of bucket lined with 2 layers of black and white newspaper and bucket is filled with a UNIFORM high quality planter mix. In my case, for economy , this is 1 part local topsoil, 2 parts coarse sand, and odds and ends of ash, charcoal, and worm castings when available. I also mix a handfull of 10-10-10 fertilizer which I buy in 50 pound bags at the local Ag store.

      These work great for peppers and small frowing (indeterminate) tomatoes, as well as some herbs. Plants in containers need more frequent watering than same plant in ground, especially as they put on a lot of leaves and are using/loosing the water rapidly.

      buckets less than 5 gallons are a bad idea–it`s too hard to keep the soil a uniform temp and moisture level.

  17. Water storage is an often overlooked part of prepping. Many of us live in the city and don’t have wells from which to draw water. We ordered some water bricks online. They don’t get so heavy and you can stack them in your spare room or the garage. Here is the link: http://www.shelfreliancesanantonio.com/jmp/jmp_water_brick.php . Since they are not too heavy when filled they are also great to use for camping or if you have to bug out.

  18. I have found that our dollar store (DollarTree) carries a 2 qt food grade plastic jar. You can also get them by the case on line (delivery to the store is free). I like Instant Rice and Navy Beans and putting these up in 3.5+ gal buckets seems a bit much. These 2 qt ones hold a funn 28 oz box of instant rice, 4 lbs of navy beans, 3 lbs of small elbow macaroni, 3.5 lbs of flour. This works out good for us as there are only 2 in our primary preps. I use a trimmed 2″ x 4″ label that goes between the indented handles. I seal it with wax paper, using rubber cement as a sealing agent. I wanted to try butcher paper, but the wax paper has worked very well. I now have a reusable jar, so that when I open a large bucket, I can put the rest up in smaller containers and keep the elements and bugs out.

  19. I read of a family that uses waterbeds for emergency water storage. And sleeps on them. Also read that a homesteader on a wagon train in the 1840’s used a rubber bladder filled with water as a both a mattress and an emergency water supply. I’m wondering what to add to keep the water safe to drink.

  20. There is a chemical you can add to water to prevent it going bad for longer term storage.

  21. I wouldn’t use water-bed-stored water for drinking, but perhaps ok for other uses. The plastic that waterbeds are made from are definitely not food-grade, and the anti-wave baffles are not either. And they would need to be stored out of the sunlight in an enclosed frame as they were originally designed, as the weight of the water without the frame could weaken them. Here’s a site I found for Military-grade water containment bags. I’m sure there are others….probably googling would find them: http://bergco.com/flexible_containment/products/khcms_pillowtank.aspx

    Also then there’s: http://www.waterbob.com/Welcome.do;jsessionid=7825525177C6275714B125D52D176D4B

    (I am not affiliated with either site)

    • Re: the water bed – from what I here in the winter the bed gets v cold. If you have to waste more electrity to keep it warm enough to sleep on , I don’t think that it’s worth it.

      • Filly……

        I woldn’t personally acquire a water bed for the purpose of having water. For twenty bucks, you can buy a 100 gallon water BOB from “Cheaper Than Dirt”. However, that’s not the purpose of this response.

        I’m quite sure the physics of “temperature change” is that the water bed should remain approximately “room temperature”. So if you are keeping your room reasonably warm then the water in the bed should be roughly the same. If you lose power (and heat)…well, that’s a different problem and-yes-your water’s temperature will fall with the room tempeature. You’d still have water though; which I guess was the original intent of the person suggesting a water bed in the first place.

  22. i have 100 buckets that i get from kruger bakery they are nice also i get 1 gal. glass jars that had peppers in the i get 50 a week they work greatei also get 20 gal. barrels that seal to hold boxs of cookies cearel ever thing and they seal i have 10000 wal mart bags they make good trash bags

  23. I got one of those stainless steel 12 oz or so water jugs. It was blue and advertised for some buisness that I forget what.I spray painted it olive drab to make it more covert.I will hang it on a bob or backpack when needed.

  24. Off topic sorry. I was found by a junior hi highschool friend that I have not seen since the early 90`s on facebook. We are living in the same county and we are going to go shooting in early January. We are both busy next weekend and after that the holiday rush we will get together and go shooting.We will have a good time and I am going to see if he is into prepping.I will be descrete about it.

  25. charliebuck69 says:

    I have been very lucky at finding 3 and 5 gallon food grade buckets at my local recycling center.

  26. Nor' Country says:

    Good ideas by all…

    I always though about getting an old five gallon metal pot from a thrift store and wrapping it in fiberglass insulation then placing a few heated rocks from a fire in the bottom of the pot and covering the rocks with an old metal grate from one of those cheap round BBQ grills. Then placing whatever I needed to keep heated on the grate and putting the lid on the pot and covering the whole thing with a blanket…

    Anyone ever try something like this before??? I’d like to know how it worked if you have…

    • Encourager says:

      Nor’ Country, You can bury a 14″ Cast Iron Dutch oven in the ground with coals beneath and on top of the concave top. You can actually cook food that way. The earth acts as an insulator.

  27. 101st Airborne Division says:

    When I am near Lexington KY – I always visit Lexington Container….I swing in and pick up alittle of everything…55’s – 20’s – 5’s – 1’s – 2.5’s -ammo cans – mylar – a preppers dream….plus – 3 large gun shops within 25 minutes…I should just send my paycheck up there and divide by 4.

    Prepare for Impact fellas…

  28. Airborne

    New a little about that…
    http://www.170th.org/Html/Bikinis.html
    Thanks for the container lead.

  29. I’ve heard that fireplace ash buckets can make good impromptu EMP shields too. I would imagine there are a number of metal items that would serve this purpose to some extent. Anyway, thanks for the info.

  30. OK YOU WILL LIKE THIS i have 100 1 gl. glass jars use reynolds wrap wrap it around the jar the perty side in use duck tape to keep in place get a onion bag cut the bottom corner to fit the jar use duck tape to keep strate then wrap duck tape around the whole jar the bottom alsoso you dont see the the onion bag then put some hot water in the jar it will stay hot for 6 hrs. cost 2.50 and holds a gal of food hot have a good day