Many readers have asked “where or how do I find like-minded folks to form a survival group to help man our retreat?”
Unfortunately, I’ve known of several survival groups that are no longer together. In most cases they dissolved due to a lack of funds, seriousness of members and infighting.
It’s been my experience that most groups fail within the first two years. People just can’t get along, no matter the need-at least not for long. But I’m sure there are exceptions… The successful survival groups are the ones we never hear about.
It’s my belief, that those who make it through the collapse will be those who meld into their surroundings, avoiding becoming a target. Remember a fight avoided is a fight won.
Having a large group can thwart this necessary blending. It is my contention, that groups should be kept as small as possible while allowing for a complementary skill set within the group.
Finding people with complementary skills, beliefs and interests who can form a group and work together for the long haul can seem impossible and in some cases it my be.
Yet, no man is an island. Finding the right survivalist friends could mean the difference between a long life or a quick demise.
Several readers have questioned my fortitude for living alone in the backwoods. What they don’t understand is, that I live alone, but I’m not alone. Let me explain.
I have friends and family in the area (the only reason I stay) who will help me if I need it. They form a survival group, naturally without even knowing it.
Take a look at your situation, family and friends – would they be there for you and each other when the balloon goes up? What are their skills? What do they have to offer? Will they work together?
If the answers to the above questions are negative, than you need to look elsewhere for support. But where do you look. And, perhaps more importantly, how do you do it without drawing attention to yourself or inviting danger into your retreat.
Consider looking into:
- Churches with similar religious convictions to your own.
- Hunting clubs
- Gun clubs
- Garden clubs
- First Aid & CPR class attendees
- Those attending self-defense classes or seminars
I’m sure you can think of other possibilities, but you get the idea.
Starting your own related club, as a ruse to attract like-minded people for an inital “feeling-out” process isn’t out of the question. Even if you don’t find a worthy candidate you’ll at least have gotten off the couch.
I know a former Army ranger who offered free wilderness survival classes as a ruse when building his survival group.
They would spend a weekend out in the woods learning various outdoor survival techniques. While he would secretly evaluate each as a potential member for his survival group.
Often finding potential survivalist friends is as simple as networking, after all you can’t expect them to find you. You have to get “out there.”
Obviously you don’t want to blurt to everyone you meet about your survival plans. Even those whom at first seem likely candidates, maybe the opposite of what you’re looking for when you pry below the surface.
It’s best to start slow, keeping your options open. Act like you are just as unprepared as everyone else, but concerned about the future and recent disasters. Say you would like to be better prepared for such an event but you don’t know where to start.
Maybe they’ll start giving you advice. Listen closely. If the advice is sound you may have hit the pay-dirt. Informally talking about your fears and concerns may open up the conversation, but still be very careful with whom your share information.
Trust should be built over time and that trust should be earned not given. You don’t want to give your secrets to a government snitch or future raider. And no matter what, or how much you’re offered, never do anything illegal if asked. Remember Randy Weaver?
Have advice for finding survivalist friends please share in the comments below.
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A good friend of mine is convinced that the apocalypse is near. I can see how this time of global uncertainty can cause paranoid people stress.
Between the decaying world economy and the military and political turmoil around the globe, only a fool will fail to see that something extremely negative is facing our society. Apocalyptic? Maybe, maybe not, but certainly something that will force all of us to drastically change the way we’ve been thinking and living in the past. It isn’t paranoid but prudent to prepare for such an eventuality.
This is going to probably apply to urban or suburban preppers.
If you are in a city or a well populated suburban area, I highly recommend starting your own Meetup group. http://www.meetup.com. I joined a preparedness group and have met several people that are like minded. Some of them are new, some of them are seasoned preppers, etc. You will have to weed out some of the ones with tin foil hats, and don’t expect people to show up every meeting. A few will be dedicated to coming once a month, and some will come and go. If you do start your own group or join one, be sure that there is structure to it, and you do not keep showing up month after month and talking about Bug Out Bags or how everyone wishes they had a Bug Out Location. Have different topics scheduled for discussion months ahead of time with a few minutes to clean house and have new introductions from the last meeting. Don’t be afraid to let the conversation stray, but bring it back on track.
Just as important as this, is after the meeting is over. If you meet someone and you seem to be on the same page, head to lunch or get a cup of coffee and chat one on one. This is how you really get to know if the person is on the same page as you, and be “worthy” of your burgeoning network.
I have met a few people and continue to meet people this way, and am ‘slowly’ building a network I think would be worth working with in the near and distant future.
I agree on the meetup idea. If available, you can also join transition-town, self defense groups and the like to find like-minded people. It depends on what is available to you, or what you are willing to start yourself.
A lot of the sustainability people come pretty close to being preppers.
I did an informal “study” on this here in NM. You can read my results at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/32552694/Tips-on-Selecting-Members-for-a-Successful-Preparedness-Survival-Group-Getting-Along-Today-and-Tomorrow
“I am prepared for the worst but hope for the best” Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister & novelist 1804-1881)
In the nearly five years we’ve been preppers we find it is getting easier to identify other potential preppers. Some of this is our accumulated experience. In today’s America I see and hear a good many more folks making little innocent comments that are subtle enough to invite a safe response. We usually smile, nod and shut up. If we run across this person again, we might find a way to invite another comment and see what happens. The point I’m trying to make here is that OPSEC has not changed. With so many more folks getting into preparedness I think extra caution is wise. Many new-to-prepping folks have no sense of OPSEC, or they may trust too easily including us (as strangers at first), or have not a lick of common sense. We are learning more every day, and I feel preppers need to be extra cautious and move very slowly.
My “group” is over 20,000 strong, spread all over the world. I am a member of a mideval reinacting group— the Society for Creative Anachronism. We may not all get along all the time and have differnt ideas sometimes but I’ll trust my SCA friends with my life post TEOTWAWKI.
We’re the most likely not only to live well post-apocylypse, but many of us would WELCOME IT.
In my younger days I was a Civil War re-enactor, and have spent numerous weekends living like a soldier in a Civil War era encampment, including gathering water and cooking over a fire. It’s a lot of fun for a weekend, but gets very exhausting for longer periods, and we didn’t have to plant or harvest our own food, or forage for it, as the food was provided, just not cooked. I have camped for 10 days at the Pleasant Hill, La. battlesite, and I can tell you I was ready for a return to civilization, especially for hot water to shower in, and an air conditioner to help me sleep. I was completely exhausted, and it took me a few days to get back to normal energy levels.
I don’t mean to disparage what many of your fellow members so desire, but it’s difficult for me to believe anyone would want to knowingly return to pre-industrial age society. If they really knew what it was like. The misery index can hardly be measured for such a life, but some few did prosper, mainly people who used the labor of others to enrich themselves.
I know what you mean, but can not relate.. After 3 or so days outdoors, I am primed! (and I 42 YO and stronger than I was at 20) After 2 nights I am adjusted to sleeping on the ground.. I don’t eat carbs or sugar in any amount – just lots of protein, fat and vegetable – so I don’t get hungry often – no cravings ever! If you are in shape, eat real food, fresh water and get plenty of sunshine, you can go for a lifetime out there..really !! Folks just don’t pay enough attention to this aspect of Prep (preparing the body).. And if nothing ever goes wrong you live a healthy strong life, look and feel better. Primitive is fine with me.. Turn off the AC! and go for a dip. I would not wish for doom, but we are way too soft as a culture.
I couldn’t agree more. You have to acclimate to your surroundings. There are several medications out there that will prevent you from being able to acclimate, so being able to remove these medications and replace them with an alternative is imperitive. Way back in the day I used to take Prednisone, and I can say that you CAN NOT handle direct sun or hot temperatures while on this drug – you will stroke out very quickly.
Since I have embraced a healthy lifestyle, I have similar experiences as you. On a 7 day trip, I’m usually comfortable by the 2nd day and completely acclimated by the end of the trip – I can stay there comfortably for an indefinite period of time during the summer, winter, makes no difference.
Jim- Your medieval play actors group is a long shot away from modern aware preppers. Those that would welcome mass death and destruction so they would be free to actually live their fantasy are horribly misguided. Every one of them who think it would be a good thing needs to run off to locations that have disasters (such as Haiti) and get a good dose of what disaster is really about. Living among the rubble of death and destruction is a long way from fantasy reinactment.
Barb, you said what I was thinking. I didn’t say anything because I would have been a lot less diplomatic.
Barb,
Let me guess. “Horribly Misguided” I guess Jim isn’t an American either. I don’t think wearing chain mail and drinking mead is necessarily a good preparation for an uncertain future but I didn’t find it necessary to log in and tell him. You can’t help but pass judgment can you?
Since everybody that doesn’t share your view is full of negativity, or horribly misguided or not an American or Wit disguised as someone else I thing it is funny you call anybody else Misguided.
What is the difference between me expressing my opinion about you and you expressing your opinion about Jim or Wit or me? I think doing it is wrong and I am trying to show you it is.
Mohave rat- You seem to be under the impression that I disagree with Jim because he’s not American. I have no indication whatsoever that he is, or isn’t American. Nothing in his post says either. However, I am allowed to pass judgment. We all are. As you are, American or not. You will never convince me, on a Blog where the host has asked us for opinions, that giving mine is wrong.
What I find Horribly Misguided, is ANYONE “wishing” for an event that will cause mass death and destruction. Such an event would be nothing but ugly. Hoping for it, planning it, causing it or reveling in it just to play out a fantasy scenario is sociopathic.
Feel free to disagree with me on this opinion, but know I will likely find you Horribly Misguided for it, as well.
Mohave Rat, I just have to insert this here, I’m sorry..LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
Poor Barb…she just happens to have the same name as I do..LOLOLOL!! (I DO agree with her, of course.) The above individual who is looking forward to disaster is pretty twisted if you ask me..
Now if I can quit laughing for awhile, I’ll be okay..hehehe
Dear Barb, Mr.Rat mistook you for me, that’s why the attack.I said he wasn’t an American if the thought of the 9-11 bombings didn’t make him sick. (Lazy Friday Linkage..) Case of mistaken identity on his and Jason’s part..
My group is small about 7 households on the street that belong to this inner community – that we call a “community within a community”. We are not exactly right next to each other, but if we all walked to the ends of our driveways we can wave to each other. We share purchasing and storage duties. Us women often get together with others on the street that are “craft wise” so our core group can learn a new skill. The men often get together to share “handyman” skills. All the while we are promoting block unity even when those outside our core group have no idea that we core households are “Preppers”.
That’s a cool deal TNT. and another point to those who don’t go off alone in the rural cabin – It’s lonely out there! Though I love the country life better than being in town, I see the benny’s of good neighbors close by.
Preppers are everywhere – you just have to know how to spot them. It’s easy to spot them, look for folks who are doing what you’re doing:
Shopping at members-only discount stores.
Shopping at big-box stores and buying in bulk.
Practiciing with prepper-type guns at the range.
Eating Mountain House foods on a weekend camping trip.
Storing boxes of food, gear, supplies in their garages.
Installing a water storage tank despite being on the community water system.
Their first aid kits are the size of suitcases.
Their daily driver is a 4×4 diesel crewcab with winch.
They go on vacation each year to the same place (their retreat property).
They talk about Red Dawn, The Day After and other survival-type movies.
They mention that the best book they ever read was The New Self-Sufficient Gardener.
They wear lots of camo clothing even when they aren’t hunting.
They know what TEOTWAWKI means.
They own several backpacks, which are always full of stuff and can’t be loaned out to you.
They post on survival/prepping blogs.
They openly say they don’t like the direction the country is headed.
They have rolls of toilet paper stashed throughout their house.
They go to the hardware store to actually buy hardware.
They wear a fixed-blade knife on their belt at all times.
They home school their kids.
They have a big fence (or 3) around their property.
They know what “prepping” means.
They buy old US silver coins by the bag.
They buy ammo by the case.
They buy canning jars at yard sales.
Paracord is hanging out of their hip pocket.
OK, I admit this list is said somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but it really is true that we give off clues whether we know it or not. A couple of non-invasive questions to anybody who fits one or more of the “clues” above should “out” them as preppers.
I saw a guy stocking up on cases of canned raviolis at the discount store. I grabbed a box for myself and casually asked if he had a big family. He told me he had a family of four, but “you never know” and that was the end of his answer. I knew right then what he meant and we started talking about prepping. Turned out he had been a survivalist since 2000, when everybody was told the world would end because of the computer mess (Y2K). He said he was glad that problem didn’t materialize, but it taught him just how dependent the country (world) is on technology and how he didn’t want to be that dependent on the grid or on the government. We are prepping pals now. We live on opposite sides of town, but I know he’d be the first non-family member I contact after TSHTF.
Another time I was in the hardware store (the store that sell more crock pots and garden gnomes than hardware) and saw a guy buying 20 rubber trash cans w/lids and some flexible downspout pipe. I asked him if he were making wine (knowing that these things are not used in home winemaking, but asked anyway just to break the ice). He said, “No, I’m storing roof runoof.” When I asked for details, he told me he was getting ready to store runoff roof water this nter so he could irrigate his garden without using the town’s water system next summer. Was he doing it to save a buck or two? He said he was “practicing,” and that’s when I knew he was a prepper.
It’s not hard to spot preppers, you just have to know what to look for. Then start talking, but casually and unobtrusively.
There are survivalist forums in which the posters give a town and/or state as part of their onscreen identity. It’s sometimes possible to send a Private Message or email to those people who seem to meet your prepper pal requirements. From there, you may make a new contact who lives near you, and then the survivialist networking may begin in earnest.
I inherited a medium plot of land with a very well-appointed house. Since, I have added improvements and 2 more houses where my grown children live. A good number of my family live very near. I’ve learned that, even loved family needs elbow room. WTHTF I intend that anybody who cannot, for some reason, stay in their own house will come here. But I’m aware that there will always be ups and downs in relationships. Americans are used to their own space and don’t generally live several generations to a single home. It’s something we’ll just be forced to reconsider. Until then, I make sure each spot intended for a future livable structure is not cheek by jowl to the next.
I hire workers for the land on occasion. Some of them are transient and don’t stay for more than a season. Some are just trash people and don’t stay even that long. One married couple, and a single man, are permanent hires to the point that we consider them family now. They come for Christmas dinner with my loved ones. I’ve never come out and said I’m “Prepping” or any other term, but they pitch right in on the projects designed for survival, and agree these items are a real good idea. I guess my “Survival community” is well on its way.
I do believe that Skunk Cabbage has had me under surveillance for over the last year:) I have found that “like-minded” means complaining about the same things but without action. I try the subtle approach about what other “skill set” they possess that might be useful in case the lights didn’t come back on (us Arkansans know about the tornadoes, wicked ice storms, and the ever present New Madrid Fault Line)? The “One Second After” scenario is very foreign to them and when I offer them my copy to read, to a man, the excuse is that they don’t like to read. What? My gun broker, my barber, my re-loader, my hunting store owner, and my farm supply store buddies? Even my corner-mates on this gravel road (all ex-military) seem to dismiss any long term inability for the forces of FEMA or govt to solve ASAP. An old but enduring maxim: The Idiot studies Tactics. The Simpleton studies Strategy. The real Pro studies Logistics, Logistics, Logistics.
First aid course fits in very well for me. There are three courses I have been planning to take. The twofer is a good reason to make them more of a priority. Taking the classes to get my HAM license has also been on my list so I will look into that as a possible way to meet people.
Advertising on a blog for something like a survival community, it could introduced in the following or a similar manner: “Are you a survivalist or have a survivalist mentality? Are you looking to increase your community numbers? Are you just looking to meet others with similar interests? When the SHTF you want a friend to survive with? If you answered yes to any of these questions, click this link, fill out the questionaire and click ‘submit’ and you’ll automatically be entered into our database and hooked up with other like-minded people.” That’s about the only thing I can think of that would enhance finding people to survive with. Advertisers have to advertise in many, many different ways to attract the numbers of customers to thier products or services and anyone can do the same no matter what it is they want to do. Maybe holding a free survival course would incorporate others. A survival course would be one of the best ways to have people fill out a questionnaire as to their intentions of learning survival skills and then as a few days or a week goes by and everyone is more familiar with one another then a night time campfire a few days before the end of the class with each person talking (without interruption and before the group) about how the class went, what they liked and disliked, what thier thoughts on survival are and whether or not they are interested in meeting up (should or when) the time comes may help. In this way it would give time for the instructor to further investigate whether or not certain individuals would be potential candidates for surviving together. Most people today are not accustomed to doing things with others unless they are in an evironment where they are required to do things as a team or when they have not really been a team of any kind nor are they aware that it could be beneficial to team up in two or more people without the group becoming too large and therefore increasingly visible to overhead aircraft, others on the ground, etc. The area where I live still has quite a few people around that give and take care of others whenever the need arises. As time passes though, more are coming in and the small towns are growing larger and people are changing and beginning to look like what is contained in the bigger cities. Never again will I live in a city. If I ever lose my home, I will move into the woods just like other people are living in our nearby woods and have for more than twenty years. We have logging roads all around our area and on some of them there are remnants of past residents, some having been homeless, others not. A few years back, a couple (a man and woman in thier twenties or early thirties) had come down off one of the higher areas of our mountains and they were wearing skins (clothing) and they were trekking with thier dog. From head to toe, they were covered in skins and so they would have been pretty invisible had we ventured out into the forest. These are the types of people which have very keen senses and would be very alert as to thier surroundings just as M.D. walks his land and knows his area. I would be less afraid of “Joe down the street” chasing after me in the woods than I would be of those hiding in thier own natural environment. I can duck, cover and hide from “Joe” if I am a good distance from him but it’s those who are aware and immediately become invisible which are able to observe and that’s where the vulnerability lies. I think I will stick with trying to find places where there are no other humans in the woods, but around here, that may be a difficult thing to do. We have never been bothered by any of them, not even when we have gone on foot through some of the areas, but we are always careful not to disturb anything, anywhere, and we are careful to sometimes make enough noise to let them and the animals know that we are there, taking caution still the same. It is not wise to believe one is alone no matter where they may be because the opposite may just be true. As the numbers of jobless people increase, so too shall the numbers of homeless people increase and the numbers in forests, swamps and other areas will also do the same.
Sally~
Only out of simple curiousity, have you read the books One Second After or The World Ends @ Hickory Hollow?
Arkansas
I have been thinking about this lately MD..Your posts have been really on target lately (at least with me).. I have a few close friends and family from .1 mi to 35 mi radius, and yet I find it hard to talk to any of them (except my Mom and sis) about this.. Skunk Cabbage has a good point -The other day I was in Walmart and I was homing in on that last 250 round box of 45ACP when I learned another guy had already spoken for it. He was with his wife (who I recognized from her job at a local hardware store). Turns out she recognized me (mutual aquaintenances abound here in this little town) and she talked small talk with my son while I talked to the husband about ammo , shooting, guns, ammo prices etc.. He was a bit more open than I was (“I have 5000 of that and 1000 of that”)but nice enough.. I stuck to .. “This works well in this gun/application , and this is only x cents /round..” We did not go anywhere close to saying we were preppers – but I could tell.. The next time I see him, I will say a little more and take it easy like suggested above by Sam – Even if he’s a prepper, his loose lips could sink my ships.
This line of discussion reminds me of a tip I read somewhere on a rule for bartering during “the situation”. Don’t ever tell someone who’s looking for something and wants to barter that you have plenty and are willing to make a trade.. For example.. Somebody ( a friend even) needs 9 mm real bad..and they come to you. It’s better to say, “I know someone who might have a couple boxes of 9mm to spare.. I’ll contact him and see what he wants in exchange.. The whole time it’s really coming from you and you are now posing as a middle man. You come back and say to the friend “My source wants coffee ( or whatever) in exchange” They agree and you coordinate the deal – but it really comes from you and they don’t know it.. You are in their mind a valuable resource because you have “connections” – which is really more important than having stuff.
In the many years that I have been a “survivalist”, there have been many moments when I wanted to belong to or start a “survivalist group”. My personal feelings are to be very careful if you do. In fact, I recommend that you don’t – that is, unless it is family. I have friends who are firemen, some friends work in Emergency Management, there are my firearms friends and other friends who somehow relate to one or more aspects of survivalism. None of them, however, knows the full extent of my preparation. I suggest you keep most of the extent of your preps to yourself and take MD’s advice to look into those areas of interest he lists in this post for like-minded friends.
Home school groups. I’d say half of the families in our home school group are preppers to one extent or another. And since you’re together at least once a month, you get to know the parents (usually the mothers) and your children get to know their children (sometimes children are a good way to evaluate a family: they let things slip that you wouldn’t otherwise find out about…which both good and bad thing.)
My Dearest Barb,
I will not attempt to clear up the misunderstanding that exists between my remarks and yours. I am sure you misunderstood and I take the blame for not expressing myself more clearly.
If you will forgive me for one small judgment on my part. You seem like a very unhappy person. You seem all to eager to point out the faults in others . I am truly sad for you.There is a difference between giving an opinion and making a judgment even if you can’t see it.
I know you are a mature lady so the foolish remarks made by the immature shouldn’t bother you so. I don’t agree with you much ,but I am an American, I am not misguided and I don’t spread negativity,at least, not on purpose. I am not Wit pretending to be someone else.I haven’t insulted you, but you have said all these things about me. I think it is sad when a person is surrounded by beauty and can only see the ugliness.Please have a wonderful day.
Barb,
Sadly, I cannot help but to agree with Mohave Rat & believe he was also addressing the tenor of your comments.
Opinions are fine & can be quite engaging when you mix in some personal responsibility. The difference is when passing judgments, it generally leads to discord as is the case.
Oh my,oh my, I don’t know what to do..(high squeeky voice..) There are TWO of them against me.. Mohave Rat who doesn’t like Christians, and Jason who calls himself one..but somehow they have formed a bond against me.(Jason just needs back-up).. I have no personal responsibility to either of you. This is America. The First Amendment hasn’t been abolished…YET. I make no apologies for what I have said. Now you two play nice and get back to the topic and stop attacking that poor lady Barb who hasn’t the slightest of why you are attacking her. Hope you didn’t run her off..I agreed with her above comments.(I’m playing a Jason, only with more sincerity..)LOLOL
Yikes! The topic is about finding like-minded friends. Obviously Rat and Barb aren’t like-minded, so maybe they’ll never be friends.
Making a judgment against somebody who makes judgments seems a bit too hypocritical. In fact, the hypocrisy is laughable. Now that we’ve all had a good laugh at ourselves, how about we get back to business? Survival is the business at hand, remember? And finding LIKE-minded friends is the topic.
Skunk Cabbage,
“Survival is the business at hand, remember? And finding LIKE-minded friends is the topic”
Well said – thanks.
Mr. Md,
Is this how Wit ended up getting exiled from the tribe? If this is the responses I elicit from a simple post can you just imagine the response count from a guest article? Do you still want me to write one?
It is fairly obvious that Cabbage and Barb aren’t interested in anything I have to say.
Golly Gee, Was that “Well Said” too!
Please don’t Judge Jason to harshly for agreeing with me.
Mr. Cabbage,
Why didn’t you make this comment to Barb when she choose to call Jim G “Horribly Misguided”. Instead you agreed with her.
If you read my post again you will see I apologized in advance for my one small judgment. How is that hypocritical? At least I acknowledged it was a judgment.
I could have deliberately pushed Barb’s buttons and tried to get her mad but instead I tried ,as gently as possibly, to make my point without harshness. I was trying to be nice.
I can now add hypocritical and laughable to the list of things I’ve been called. The only thing I have called anybody is judgmental and you are. When the time comes just sit in a big circle, eat your wheat and compliment each other.That was meant to be insulting in case you can’t tell the difference.
I’m a crusty old fart, who has an annoying habit of being right more often than not. As a result I want to do it my way and can tell you why. If someone objects with that’s not the way it’s always been done, or it don’t look purdy, well lets just say it ain’t purdy. As for keeping secrets and double dealing, I prefer not. Ethical behavior is Ethical because it works in the long run as a survival strategy. Deal with someone that’s prevaricating, and you find out you will deal elsewhere, or forever seek to gain back that one loss, not a viable long term stategy. Honesty as the added benefit that there is only one story for you to remember or anyone else to tell. I like my standards where they are, those that won’t measure up resent that.
Hey M.D., For somone as ‘sad’ and depressed as I am, I’m sure having a hard time not bustin’ a gut laughing.. You must run into that a lot on here.?
As for the topic, finding people of a like mind isn’t easy when you’re as judgemental as I am..LOLOL! But I get along with me just fine, and many others do too.
I won’t need to look for outsiders or new friends. My family will fit the bill just fine, so that’s good. They all have good gardening, hunting, canning, and suvival skills. And all good at building things if need be. Plenty of resouces here.. Now if I could just learn to be quiet..LOLOLOL!!!!
Hey Cabbage! Pass the wheat!!! LOLOL!!!
The only thing I can say is, for the most part, it is hard to find a woman with the same mind set when it comes to preparedness.
Hey Dave see if you can get Jason to tell us where to get $50 wenches
Azyogi, you sure know how to milk the milage out of a typo. It’s ok, I rather enjoy the humor.
By the way, I really don’t think you really want a $50 wench, I’ve been told that they start out fine then start excessively posting LOL’s.
Dream on…with your 50 dollar wench..LOLOLOL (couldn’t resist.)
Too much money Barbara? Sorry, tried to be optimistic.
Azyogi – the old adage proves out once again, you get what you pay for ~
LOL!
Just cause they’re cheap, it doesn’t mean they are agreeable. LOL
It’s not the initial price, it’s the high maintenance costs. ;-)
Maintenance is always high
I believe I’ve been relatively lucky when it comes to finding a group of people who are like myself. The real leader of our group is my mother who is a strong women being raised by her parents who both fought and survived WWII in soviet Russia. She learned from them the importance of always being able to avoid conflict and to move rapidly. She taught me to shoot in the way my grandfather taught her and he was a sniper back in the war. We have always kept a supply of food and water in the basement for any emergency and I own the standard guns for any prepper; the .22, the mosin nagant , a 12 gauge and a Ruger Mini 14. I also plan to buy a pistol when I turn 21 soon.
As for my group, there is my brother who served in the army and is a capable outdoors men. There is my childhood best friend who was raised outside and is one of the best marksmen I have ever seen. Also, my one friend from high school who is an EMT and an wilderness survivalcourse teacher. Also there is my college friend another EMT. There is also another friend who own a large amount of guns.
I have taken the responsibility of formulating a plan and meeting place and other necessary information that we may need and organizing them into a binder which hopefully in the next month each member will have a copy. My family and one of the others keep what we feel about a months worth of food and we keep about 20 gallons worth of water at all times.
I feel as though I have found what all preppers strain to find (a group of like minded individuals, a seemingly strong plan) but like my mother says, constant vigilance keeps one constantly alive. My belief is that reliable partners, a good plan, and adequate supplies will keep you alive. But having said that I’m a relative new comer to the prepping scene myself so any advice or other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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