It would be killing the plant or killed by the plant, well before we got to eat it. Plants actually have a very good defense system and fungals are the biggest issue ue to poor soil and wounds from insects. salmonella is NOT a plant disease, it could NOT breed up in plant cells, it is a mammalian problem.
The latest alfalfa sprout scare suggested the water growing media, or the seeds, Were carriers.Its another media beat up I think, another way to force panic and get HR laws passed by foolish people with no bloody idea!
E. coli is natural in soils, until the fools at Monsanto Inserted it into plants as a marker it never was in any natural plants, ON them from poop, soil not washed off, bird poop etc. But never IN!
Strange thing, soils and salmonella, never ever heard of that before though…I suspect without poop it would not be there.Live n learn.
However- healthy Soils not chemically poisoned by NPK farm fertilizer and killed literally by roundup et al, ( I film bacteria, those soils have almost no life at all.
Healthy soils also have mycohrriza,( those white threads under mulch near trees etc. that kill bacteria that harm us, and actinomycetes that are used to make terra mycin, ie terra, from the earth.
All my life I have picked food direct, wiped the worst of the dirt off and eaten it, never got sick, and those gardens were fertilized with sheep, cow, horse and rabbit poop.
I have had 5 major nasties in my life, ALL from commercial foods. so a shorter answer.. don,t fret, you do not need to kill salmonella in dirt! In 2 years of lab slides I have seen none, and i see into the nano sizes, if they were at all common I would have found them, I have not.
Do be aware though roundup can remain for an incredibly long time depending on soil type, and animal wormers used on horses and sheep etc, kill ALL worms for well over a year, if not well mixed / diluted and spread extremely thinly. Truthfully best avoided!
I have tried to send people short 20 sec video clips but for some reason the mail just will not send, else I would show you what I see.
You may like to see” the world according to monsanto” for a real scary horror show. you tube has it. I was sad to see you took comments away, the forum isn’t the same..I guess everyone gets the idiots sometime.
If i find anything more i will let you know.
Laurel
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I dunno here, MD-
Something doesn’t seem to ‘fit’ in the idea that our gardens are being salmonella-ized with bird and dog shit. Why don’t they just come right out and say that the fertilizer we’re using is creating the problem? After all, many of us use barn cleaning in our gardens. My garden has been fertilized with yard clippings, doggie-doo included, for years. Or how about the cat digging and doing its duty in the garden plot? Sorry- the numbers just don’t calculate right for me.
Too, if this is the cause, why is it ‘just now’ appearing to be a problem? Why didn’t it happen in the gardens of our youth? Or those of our grandparents?
Seems to me as though there is a tremendous amount of fear-mongering going on in the dotgov these days, all its departments. Therefore, I for one, will plant my garden again this year and have no fear of eating from it, enjoy every single bite.
Too, there’s the big push going on where we’re going to be taxed for our gardens, or some such nonsense being fornicated by our illustrious District of Criminals. Just more BS to cause distress, high blood pressure and create criminals where none were.
Shy III













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I am currently in medical school and we discussed this topic a few months ago. Due to the massive use of antibiotics that are used in this country (for people and live stock), there are many different strains of Salmonella that are currently circulating (this is true for all bacteria). Research has shown that some of these new strains are able to actually invade the plant and live in the cells of it. This would make "washing" the fruit or vegetables useless. At this point, it seems that these strains are pretty rare and this shouldn't be a concern for most home gardeners (especially in a survival situation). It seems that most of the salmonella outbreaks that have occurred were from contaminated equipment, not from bacteria invading the fruit/vegetables. Here is an article for more information
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC169118/
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