Two types of preppers…Which one are you?

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  1. mom of three says:

    Very good words of wisdom, I happen to be both I get going and then I’ll stop.. So far I’ve been getting going with a little nudge of the articles, posted making me sit up and say let’s keep going. This week has been a hard work of canning and picking up produce in fact I have to drive here soon go get pickling cucumber, to add to my all ready full day.. But…at the end of the day what kind of prepper am I ? I hope the first type..

  2. believer says:

    I’m the kind that prefers to continue reading, not watching and listening to a video.

  3. Good morning MD…
    All I can say is get them to read One Second After. I have been prepping for 20 years, and after reading that book and it’s sequel One Year After,i am scared to death that 20 yrs of modest prepping may not be enough.

    DW and I read both books last weekend.and have been working all week to see just how prepared we aren’t. We are both disabled and in our late sixties, so what others ‘s accomplish in a day takes us a week. The biggest hole in our preps is the ability to obtain an extended amount of.her medicines. If any able bodied prep-minded person can read those books and not get a fire under their butts and out to their land to work on doing SOMETHING, they are dead already. Prayers out for them.

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Okg55,
      I read the book years ago and was not really impressed and still need to read the sequel; however, I’m glad to see that it has been lighting fires under you and many others. Although I’ve been in a prepping mindset for more than 50 years, and actively prepping for more than 40 years including the DW and I who have been prepping on this homes stead for more than 30 years, some of what you mentioned haunts all of us as we grow older, and less capable. This has been, at least in my case, where your MAG steps in and helps, not by treating you as a charity case; but, by helping each other out with the skills you do have. I have extensive outdoor skills and have done wood working, electrical, plumbing, etc; but these often have become more of a mentoring role as a supervisor / teacher. In the electronics & ham radio area as well as the firearms area I still offer local folks a lot of help, and that is appreciated and repaid in other ways; although no one really keeps score. If you have some age on you (late 60’s) and have been prepping for 20 years, you have something many of the newer or younger folks don’t have, and that is knowledge and perspective. Perhaps you can learn to trade these attributes you have for some that you need, like physical labor around the place.
      Just my $0.02 worth.

      • OhioPrepper says:

        Additionally, we have a fair amount of savings, both in our IRAs and basic savings accounts and are virtually debt free. We have a small auto payment ($150.00 / month) for 5 more months and a little more we’re helping the DD with on school loans. We had saved enough to nearly pay for a large portion of DD’s college. We have livestock and a good amount of land and enough long term food for a year or more for 4 people.
        Preps are a lot like saving for college or retirement. The sooner you start, the better off you end up.
        U hear folks talking about some type of collapse shortly and some who point out how we’ll make it longer, and I really think that no one knows the answer. History makes a good guideline and may help us to not make some of the same mistakes over again; but, the real truth is that no one really knows, and we all need to be aware that in the end, we are all our own sheepdogs and first responders.
        I understand the angst of the guy in the video, since it appears that he and his MAG are decent caring people; but, they are simply unprepared to take on the burden of others who waited too long or put in less effort than they should have. I feel like that quite often, as those of us who worked decades to strive and save and be the makers, seem to always be the targets of the takers.

  4. I am closer to the first example, except I already moved out of town to six acres and work on being off grid and growing my own food. I keep simplifying.

  5. Crazy Joe in South Jersey says:

    He is to compassionate towards slackers . Not everyone who sets out to climb the mountain will get to the top . Many are satisfied with simply looking at the mountain , secure in the fact that it is there . Some make it half way and are satisfied and of course they are ahead of those at the bottom …. but .

    The topic is something I have explained to many over the past 40 years . You are either a have or a have not . No compassion , pity or empathy for those who have not due to their own complacency or laziness .

    Our network cut out the slackers , drug users & drunks 35 years ago . No coming back unless years go by and proof is shown the individual is giving 200 percent due to the correct way of life .

    Our morality is superior and will not allow the weak minded to drag us down . We are not in this world to save slackers .

    The video guy would have done a better service by filming at their location and showing people how a good intention was nothing more than a pipe dream and wasted . He should have discussed how stupid these people are and the consequences that will befall them . Show me the driveway to no where . I love to laugh .

  6. HeyMD, I must say until this year, I was the 2nd kind of Prepper, doing a lot of reading, watching YouTube and collecting knowledge, but knowledge not put to use is a waste, so I’ve gotten busy this year, and have been applying my skills, and it has made ALL the difference!

  7. Encourager says:

    Whew! He sure made me think!

    Glad we are the first type of prepper. When dh retired, we made sure we had zero debt. But that really started years before when we decided no credit card debt, save for it before buying it, and other than the mortgage, we were debt free. Now we are mortgage free. We saved and saved and now have a nest egg.

    However, we have gotten complacent. We need a new roof, new decking on the deck, and need to renovate a bathroom where we had a serious leak while away from home and the vanity was ruined as was part of the floor. We keep putting these things off but now I am saying to myself “If the SHTF tomorrow, these projects will never get done. Can’t buy roofing materials, can’t repair bathroom, can’t replace the unsafe decking.” Oh, and we need to complete the fencing around the property. Gotta stop slacking!!

    Thanks for the kick in the butt.

  8. Great video. We spent the morning weeding the garden. filled the 10 tray dehydrator with food we grew. Made cucumber salad for diner. The 14 chichens get all the scraps. . I still have about 5 cords of wood to split, but there’s about 6 cords. Cut,stocked and dry. We have enough toilet paper for at least a year. Dawn, tide, deodorant for and long time. I just ordered some freeze dried meat, because I’m out of the canned chicken and hamburger we can ourselves. We have fruit trees, blueberries. This all takes a lot of time. One second after scared the $%&% out of me. People better get prepping. It doesn’t get done sitting watching t.v. we have family to take care of, not listen to your vacation. Oh, I’m reading up on how to make apple jack ( first time) . preps are never done. Pray a lot.

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Gray shepherd,

      Oh, I’m reading up on how to make apple jack ( first time) . preps are never done.

      Easy peesy. All you need is some yeast or a few raisins, cold weather, or space in the freezer, a little time, and a strainer; although I think freeze distillation is still technically illegal, so best you keep it to yourself.
      A specific gravity tester, available at most homebrew stores would also be useful to test the batch before and after the freeze and strain, to see how well you did.

      • Ohio Prepper
        Wonderful! I never heard of f-d before. I never drank. I recently started making wine and it is awesome, I have 6 gallons now (tastes okay to me, like I’d know). 2 gal each apple, pear, cranberry. My biggest desire is 80+ proof for my home tinctures and do not want to buy it in the market economy. I went off site to watch a video on f-d and nothing to it. Problem solved. I have been resisting buying vodka for this purpose… my goal is self-sufficiency.
        I want you to know what a contribution this information is.

        • OhioPrepper says:

          Rebecca,
          If you need vodka or perhaps ever clear for your tinctures, then f-d may not get you what you want. It concentrates the alcohol by freezing the water, which has a higher freezing point than alcohol. The ice is removed, leaving a mixture that contains a higher concentration of alcohol; but, it still contains all of the non water based contents of the original liquid. In makes what is essentially a fortified product. 80 proof (40%) vodka, the non-alcohol portion is nearly all water as I understand it. The f-d will contain water also; but, a lot of other things from the original fruit; but, if this is OK for a tincture, then I suspect it would still work OK.
          Vodka or ever clear is essentially legally produced moonshine, where the lower evaporation point of alcohol is used to remove it from the liquid and catch it. It generally will also contain some amount of water; but, the final product will contain only alcohol and water, with none of the solids left over from f-d.

          • Ohio prepper
            It will taste better than vodka. If I were selling tinctures maybe not. Until I get a still and learn how to use it, that’s plenty good. I can stockpile vodka but my higher commitment is getting out of the market economy. Corporations use our own money to subvert our government. Hopeless as it seems, I am all about taking my power back from them.
            I learn new things regularly and this is my latest. My fall garden is in and I ate since late winter from it, starting with microgreens. Yum. This is my food storage garden. I am sick unto death of fighting corporate goons for my country.

            • OhioPrepper says:

              Rebecca,

              Until I get a still and learn how to use it,

              Keep in mind that running a still is another low / no profile endeavor. It’s basically making moonshine and the ATF revenuers will not appreciate it.

              My fall garden is in

              We’ll just be planting our fall garden in the next few weeks, so like always, here in the north we are a bit jealous.

              • Ohio Prepper

                I can legally distill essential oils though! A small still is perfect for essential oils. Again… only for home use and not for sale. I grow many herbs and gather wild herbs for my own use. Very healthy, haven’t needed a doctor for about 10 years. I hope I get many more healthy years, at 62 I am pushing it. Now I am studying herbs and the human body intensely. For my old age.

                • OhioPrepper says:

                  Rebecca,

                  at 62 I am pushing it. . . . For my old age.

                  Well kid, at 62 you have a long way to go. I’m 65 and the DW is 66 and although age takes its toll, we are all three of us still young, other than perhaps a few mornings getting up and getting started.
                  As for distilling essential oils, or water, or nearly anything except alcohol, you are correct. The alcohol taxes go clear back to 1791 & The Whiskey Rebellion, and some form of tax has always been there.

                  I took a class on alcohol production about 30 odd years ago with the local farm bureau. I still have the manual we were given, and it’s also available as a free pdf download, to get you familiar with how this stuff all works.
                  Fuel from farmers A Guide to Small Scale Ethanol Production is available here: http://www.nrel.gov/docs/legosti/old/519R.pdf

                  • Ohio Prepper
                    Thanks! I plan to stay young as long as possible. I dig rocks and build flowerbeds in my spare time.
                    I am committed to creating a wonderful future, no matter what happens.

  9. celticreeler says:

    I spent my most energetic decade acquiring a professional degree and honing my skills. After a hiatus during which I attended to pressing family matters (home educating kids being one), I elected not to return to this profession which has been, essentially, ruined by government intervention at every level. You will probably be able to guess to which profession I refer.

    Instead I am in local elected office. My profession was rapidly becoming ‘just another government job’ anyway, so I thought it would be important to serve if at all possible in local government, since that would be where most of the governing would need to come from, should the type of government we were intended to have ever return. What an education this has been. I really don’t believe that my local jurisdiction is in any way unique; local government everywhere, I suspect, is far too beholden to the federal overlord, and the local law enforcement authority is bought off by federal asset forfeiture dollars and the lure of every type of award–gadgets, powers, the mere prestige some would feel of working with a federal agency–and the people are oblivious. Some of these people, capable of understanding how serious these things are, are too busy prepping to pay attention.

    Let me be clear: I think preparing and being responsible for yourself and your family are essential. But if absolutely everyone spends every bit of their time on those pursuits, local government will continue busily enabling the federal and state governments’ consolidation of unconstitutional power over the people. When the MRAP that your local law enforcement authority accepted rolls over your survival retreat, where will you be?

    I will have to decide at the end of my four year term whether there is any chance for reinforcements, and whether I have thrown away four years of my life.

    • Crazy Joe in South Jersey says:

      CELTICREELER ….

      I was elected to a 2 year term and refused to run again . I enjoyed the 2 years . I spent 34 years prior to that working for and advising politicians at the local , county and state level . These past 9 years I have gone back to the working for and advising role .

      It was not and is not a waste of my time . I have caused change for the better in numerous circumstances . Nothing monumental but still , I have caused change for the better .

  10. It is always wise to keep and stock household items I would agree but those are also things we can live without! I mean there is so many things we can live without that is invented or manufactured everyday that is so meaningless or wasteful. Most things these days are made to make ppl more lazy then they already are. If SHTF I wanna be stocked up with items I really need like food and water, not household items like toiletries! Check Out This Free Video It will show you an idea of the importance of prepping and the things we have done for hundreds of years to survive! Click Here to watch!

    • Sean
      I have to agree with you on this. I have replaced my toiletries and medicine cabinet with herbs. Including vitamins etc. My health is excellent and I grow food and eat nutrient dense native food. I am diy on more things all the time and want to be at the point where system collapse doesn’t affect my daily life much. The further I get down that road the more content I feel.

      • Ditto. Most of the world lives and has lived without toilet paper. Nitrile gloves are cheap and reusable. Soap and water are preferable to corn cobs, stones, green leaves, etc. I am working on a milk crate of tooth brushes and dental floss. Bad teeth, promote bad health.

        • Exactly. I would add that steeping spearmint leaves creates a wash water that kills e-coli germs without creating superbugs. If it comes down to using and reusing cloth wipes, remember the mint family as moistened and as rinse water after washing badly soiled cloths. I grow a pot all winter long in a south window. Not pretty because I pinch pieces off to use, but spearmint is also gentle on skin..

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Sean,
      I think this is what the Amish have figured out. They will still quite often use modern conveniences; but, only as conveniences and not necessities. When your internet connection or your smart phone becomes a necessity instead of just a convenience, then you have put yourself into the arena and may have to fight your way back out.

  11. Yes but that is what it is a “convenience”, if it comes down to it there are more important things. Toiletries for example can be replaced with many other natural items ect….

    • OhioPrepper says:

      Sean,
      Precisely my point. Conveniences are not a bad thing, as long as they have not become necessities. I love my TP; but, have many times used other things, in my case when camping. It’s this transition from the normal to the perhaps inconvenient and yucky, that people need to overcome.

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