Walking Home From Work. Consider all the options

This is a guest post and entry in our non-fiction writing contest  by Ron G

While Solar Flares and Electro Magnetic Pulse are real and while it is theoretically possible that we could lose all advanced electronics we need to ask, “Is it probable”? Myself, I don’t think so. I started to write about why I think this and explain my background on the topics but that became an article on its own and is NOT what I wanted to write about. So lets bypass that for now.

Solar Flares and EMP do exist and cannot be ignored completely. So I recently started working on a plan to get home from work should I lose the use of my truck. That means getting home by foot. According to the map by highway or street I have 13 miles to travel. As a crow flies its only 10 miles but I am not a bird. Due to physical limitations it’s going to take me 2 maybe 3 long days to get home. But what will I be walking into? This big city is not my home. I have been here since last November. I do not know this place.

I listen and watch local news. While I don’t see safe neighborhoods I do see for the most part “safer” ones. Goblins go to where the crime pays the most. Then one day I’m watching a train running behind the place I work and I ask myself, “Where does that train track go?

Let’s go to the maps and look.

Darn if this track doesn’t run west to east and I need to go south but, over here, a block away, is another track and it runs north and south. Following it south about 10 miles and it comes out across the highway about 300 yards from the front gate to where I live and then it turns west. Straight for ten miles, “Just like a bird flies”. So now the question is, “walk 13 miles by highway and street, or 10 miles by railroad”? And if I take the shorter route what kind of “hoods” will I be walking thru? Railroad tracks go thru bad neighborhoods.

From friends at work I have learned that criminal goblins do in fact live in certain parts of town but they have learned to drive out into the better neighborhoods where the robberies and burglaries have less risk and greater returns. In an EMP event the goblins wont be driving anywhere. So what will I be walking thru?

Again I returned to the maps. Using Google I could check every neighborhood on both sides of the track headed south. Street views can tell a person a lot, but not everything so I also drove the areas. I drove every street that intersected the tracks and many of the neighborhood streets that ran parallel.

Starting up north the neighborhoods are up scale. Homes I could never expect to afford. Working south the home values decline but there are no “bad neighborhoods”. No low rent, government housing, no slums. During my drive thru’s I see NRA, USMC, and Fish stickers in-car and truck windows. I see US Flags on front porches. Areas that look like places I have lived.

I think that if I have to take the tracks home I could do so as safe or safer then I could on city streets or the highway. Why? Because the goblins, once they see the opportunities, will be out looking for victims and the goblins know the odds are there will be more victims walking down the street then the railroad tracks. However, if for some reason the tracks are not usable I now know the side streets and having studied and driven them I can adjust accordingly without a map.

Having determined a primary route with alternatives I need to take another look at what I need in my Get Home Bag. Using railroad tracks or not this comes down to two questions.

Question: “What Am I trying To Do”? Answer: I am trying to walk home.

Question: “What Am I NOT Doing”? Answer: I am not camping, fishing, hunting, getting lost in the forest, searching for the wild asparagus, shaving, washing my hair, repairing torn clothing, cooking three course meals or anything else on a seemingly unlimited list of other “possibilities” we see way too often. Extra shoe strings? Crowbars? Axes and whistles? Really?

The one variable for us will be seasonal weather conditions and that’s no big deal, as we should all be leaving in the morning dressed accordingly. I don’t live in an area where major changes occur in a 24-hour period. If I did I would adjust my GHB contents each season and carry weather related extras in my car. The only likely exception to this is a disposable rain poncho.

SO what do We really NEED to address in our get home kits besides a disposable rain poncho??

We need Food that does not require cooking. Stopping and building a fire slows us down. Carrying the extra weight of cooking and eating utensils works against us. It does not matter if we can have 5 means of making fire. That’s wonderful but we won’t need them, (If it makes you feel better, carry a Bic). If there are vending machines at work and you get there first you can pick up some extra snacks and share with strangers you may meet on the way.

We need Water. We can either carry 5 gallons or carry a personal filter device. 5 gallons of water weighs a lot and works against us and will draw attention which is bad OPSEC. My explorations exposed several available water sources. There are also several machines at work where I can get a few bottles of water if I move fast enough and with these I would be ready to share. If you are going to carry “jugs” of water find a way to paint them a dull dark color or black in order to lower reflection.

We need Protection, sharing extra snacks and/or water will create allies and on the road there is safety in numbers. Remember, at this point in time people are just trying to get home. Starvation and panic has not started yet. Civilization will still exist. Still, a handgun is essential. This is in case we cannot avoid or go around unexpected trouble. Expect trouble. The longer you are out there the greater the risk.

Unless you can get home in less than one day we need a flashlight and extra batteries. Remember the objective is to get home so we will be traveling after dark. No I am NOT suggesting a forced march. Stop and rest if you need to but walk as much as you can. If you really feel the need for sleep it is best to do so after dark and not in the open.

A small bike is a good idea if you have one in your car or truck. If you normally wear shoes that are not suitable for walking long distance a better pair would be a good idea. Just look at your specific situation and don’t get hung up in other people’s gear list. Remember your objective is to 1. cover the miles and 2. don’t let anything slow you down.

Post Script: While working on this article I realized that just being preppers gives us a heads up. We will figure out what the heck is going on way before the vast majority does. While they are running around in circles asking, “What’s going on, what’s happening?” we will already know, we will have already recognized the SHTF for what it is. We will already be well on our way and implementing our plans. Just make sure your plans are designed specific for you, your situation, your location and what you need to accomplish a specific task.

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  1. Matt in Oklahoma says:

    This is it right here.
    Make your GMHB yours for the environment that YOU will encounter and do research, yep work, gotta work for the good stuff just like the author did, if it was easy everyone would do it. In my case I found to get off the highway a major power line runs 250yds off my place and even by night I can navigate this major power line to get home without crossing alot of residences(because folks dont like these big lines in their backyards and when they are there they are often fenced seperate). They keep the lines clear cut so travel is easier.
    Mine is a 2 day trip so I need more than this author so again make the plan and bag YOURS.
    Good Stuff!!

  2. Excellent advice! I NEVER would have thought to keep a bicycle handy. Obviously that would only apply in certain scenarios and certain conditions. I’ve just never heard anyone even suggest it. But this article seems to be extremely pertinent for very large numbers of people. It is a city scenario. Doesn’t apply to me where I live, but it is a wise word for multitudes. (And well written!) I would only suggest printing out those Google maps and putting them in waterproof sleeves in your GHB. Plus (just in case somehow you hadn’t thought of this), small 2-way radios at work and at home would be a big help. Very good article!

    • Actually the wife and I do carry small, two way, radios, with extra batteries, in our GHB. For security reasons We have a written plan that dictate when we will attempt contact and what channel we will use at that time.
      The bicycle idea came from several members of the Wolfpack some time ago.

  3. Ron G. — Sensible insight. Only addition I could suggest is having two GHB’s, in your vehicle. One, as you suggest for getting home from work and a second, slightly more substantial one for getting home from unexpected place you might happen to be when something hits such as (shopping, visiting friends, out for a weekend drive, etc.).

    • Good point and while reading this again tonight I started to realize that. However, since 95 % of the time I am away from home I am at work, the odds are…

  4. Good thoughts. Although I don’t have to walk home from work (it’s where I work) my wife does. Fortunately it’s only a mile+. I have been focused on me and the house. Thank you for getting my focus on making it easier and safer for my wife to get home!

  5. charlie (NC) says:

    If I were in your position with physical disabilities and 10 to 13 miles to get home I’d be looking for an old school mini-bike or scooter. One without electronics. I’d find a small storage place near my job and put it in there. I’d go by once a week or so and start the motor and let it run a few minutes. I’d keep a small amount of stabilized gas in the tank and I’d store some additional gas. I’d rotate the additional gas out onc a month or so by pouring it in the gas tank of my car and replacing it with fresh.

    If you look online you can find mini-bike kits for less than$500.00 less the motor. Harbor Freight sells good quality Chinese knock offs of Honda motors for less than $150.00. If you can’t put it together yourself you can find someone, probably at your work who will help you with it. If you can find something street legal. If not, after tshtf it w0n’t much matter. NO way I’ll be walking through the bad part of town without being able to run even if I’m armed like Rambo.

    • I find the term Armed like Rambo funny sense he only had a bow and a knife. LOL

    • I have thought about that Charlie. If my radar is sensing trouble I could just carry it chained down in the back of my truck. Also use stabile in the fuel and its good for up to 2 years.
      On the negative side, that motor will draw a lot of attention in a city that has gone suddenly quiet. Bad OPSEC.

      • Charlie, I posted before this thought came into my head.

        If that scooter got me half way home before I would have to surrender it to someone or someones with the means to hurt me bad, it would be worth it.

        • charlie (NC) says:

          Ron, a well built mini-bike with a 5 hp or larger motor will run close to 50 mph if necessary. If they are going to take it away from you they better be quick!

          • you ever see what happens when something like a thick stick gets rammed into the front spokes?

            • I can’t get past “Dumb and Dumber” when you guys talk about the mini-bike!!!!

    • Kelekona says:

      How much would it be to attach a chainsaw to a bicycle? A bit noisy, but hopefully it triggers a “we’re being chased by a psycho with a chainsaw” response and no one messes with you. I’m not sure how far that would take you.

    • Lee (TX) says:

      Iwould use a 4Wheer instead of a Mini-bike or scotter,, if the roads are blocked and you have to go off road a 4 wheeler will be better

  6. David the new one says:

    You did some good planning and prep with the maps, satellite and recon. Also good advise to get rid of unneeded items depending on your goals and mission.
    I would recommend having the water and snacks in your office. In your scenario, the emp would have shut down the vending machines. Also in your scenario, civilization has not yet broke down, so I assume that you and your co-workers would not bust into the machines. But, I may assume wrong. the veneer of civilization evaporates as quickly as spilled water on hot pavement.
    Instead of a jug to carry in your hand and slow you down, a water bladder in your backpack with a hose would be the least noticable and would keep your hands free for balance and defense. A second flashlight that is a headlamp would also be a good option. (last time I went hunting, I had two flashlights fail, although I checked them both before going out, and used my third to get back).
    I would also make the backpack a civilian looking, school bag type and avoid the military types for this obviously urban mission.
    Add some type of hat and walking shoes (boots?) sun screen, lip balm to actually leave at the office or in your vehicle.
    Communicate with other family members what you indend to do. Discuss different scenarios and different strategies. Is there an alternate meeting place? Can they meet you part way with bikes?
    This almost brings up another topic: staying in frequent communication with loved ones everyday. I.e. txt “I heading to xyz store at …” “I am leaving my meeting at ….”
    How about a faraday cage in the office and home and vehicles for walkie talkies. Some of them can reach 10-15 miles.
    Does anyone in the office live in your direction? move in numbers. Are they willing to prepare? Or is this all on you?
    Actually practice the hike. Time your self. How many dogs alert to your presence? Do the home owners come to the window and check things out? Are there gang signs visible from the tracks not visible from the road? Are there other signs of human activity? beer, drugs, sex, Are there narrow spots or blind spots where an ambush could be set up? Are there fences blocking escape routes? What kind of foot wear works best for RR bed with large rocks? Would a walking staff help? How slippery is it in the rain?
    Recently, I emptied a file drawer in my office and made it a small cache. I have enough food, water purifiers, fuel, etc. for about 2-3 weeks in case I can’t get home right away, or, if I lose everything at home, I can pick up the cache at the office. Oh and yes, the cache will grow… like mold on old bread.

    • Ohio Surveyor says:

      Love the idea of “actually practice the hike” one problem I see is tresspassing on railroad property. you can and most likley will be arrested for walking the tracks. Thats 10 miles of “hope no one reports me to the railroad or cops”. The railroad does not give permission to be on the tracks unless they asign a person from the railroad to accompony you. Just trying to help and keep everyone out of jail.

      • Far as I know, being in a medium town, not a city, they don’t police the tracks and no one cares whether you walk the tracks or not on the theory that you’re responsible to get off them if a train comes. In a BIG city where there’s 10 tracks running side by side that is probably a concern, but most places no one cares.

        • charlie (NC) says:

          Agreed Kitty. I’ve never been any place where they cared one way or another who was on the track unless or until you caused a problem with the track or the train.

        • Thanks for your unput Ms Kitty. Thats part of checking out all the options. In my case there are only two tracks I would be using. There are many more sections of RR here and I am sure there is a multi-track (10 or more) that would be policed.
          Also IF I am walking then vehicles are not working, including those used by RR Police. No Trains, Plaines or automobiles.

          After I posted this piece I realized that there would be no stores along and/or facing the tracks. I would want to avoid stores in this situation.

      • Hi all. I’m a newbie but I got a lot our of this article, so thanks.

        to Debbie, who thought it might take her and her hubbie a week or more to walk home, Had you thought of taking up biking for exercise? it might help you get in better shape and could also be carried in the back of an SUV for fun or ICE (in case of emergency) I’ve also heard of but never seen folding travel bikes. if that might not be a viable option, then staying with the vehicle would be best. shelter and larger capacity to carry and store supplies to keep you going. don’t forget to carry enough meds.

        FWIW, Kitty

    • Some good points (like a second flashlight) but let me add some detail.
      Vending machine keys are in the cafateria office. I have a master key and can get into any room. No need to break a thing. I would also leave an IOU for any and all items I took just incase I am wrong. I took this info out of an earlier draft because it is an exception to what most people have available.
      Water will be available at the cooler and I can fill the spun aluminum jug I have in my office. I want to avoid the weight of water thus I have a filter in my bag today that I did not have when I wrote the article.
      Sunscreen? lip balm? I have lived most of my life in the desert southwest and I am a Desert Storm vet. Have only used that stuff pn longer mc rides.
      Faraday cages are not needed to protect small electronics not connected to the grid or large antenna. My truck is parked in a 4 level parking garage and being older it might actually survive an EMP event.

    • Concerning communications: I should have mentioned this the other night and I failed to do so.
      Following a nuke generated EMP release, surviving over the air communication will still be disrupted due to the highly excited electrons in the atmosphere. This will die down over time. Those radio freqs which are line of sight will be serviceable sooner then those who who skip thru the hight atmospheric levels.
      Walkie talkies should work in a week or less.

  7. michael c says:

    A bike could cut that journey down to just hours instead of days. You would be riding in the street – of course. I would use one myself if I had more then 6 miles to walk.

    I also know of tracks that go my way but hope to have to element of surprise and just use the street.

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Michael, that is why I recommended a mini-bike. My first thought was a bicycle as you advised but not knowing exactly what his physical limitations are I figured pedaling might not be the best thing.

      • Charlie.
        I have some lower arterial blockage so my larger leg muscles do not get the O2 they need and can only go so far without yelling at me. I had hoped to have it taken care of by now but the wife, my beautiful bride JoJo broke her tibia plateu. Till she is fully recoverd I will wait.

        • Charlie (NC) says:


          Your good news is that you have a problem that is fixable.
          Hopefully you can get it taken care of soon. Hope your wife recovers well and soon. I figured you might have a situation of some sort with your legs. That is why I thought something like a mini-bike would work well for you.

          I don’t make it too well on foot any

          • Charlie (NC) says:

            sorry about that. I started to say, I don’t make it too well on foot anymore either. I think I can fix myself by getting in better shape and loosing some weight and I’m trying to work on that. I’m slowly recovering from a torn muscle and tendon in one knee that really slowed me down for a couple of years and caused me to get out of shape and put the weight on. The older we get the harder it is to regain what we loose. I had the occasion to walk about 3 or 4 miles in the summer heat with a 20 lb pack 2 1/2 years ago. I was shocked at how much it wore me out. Then after about 4 hours of rest I had to make the same walk back with a much lighter pack but I’m telling you I really struggled on the way back. I got to where I was stopping to rest every 50 yards or so. Not good. I’m in better shape now (I think) but still need to get busy working on it.

            Bottom line, you aren’t alone in your situation.

  8. When Google Maps came out with their “walking directions” option, I checked the fastest routes home from work. Unfortunately, the first 2 miles or so of my 10-mile walk would be sharply uphill, and there are no railroad tracks for me to follow (except for through a really long tunnel, which is seriously not okay). All I can do to mitigate the problem is take good walking shoes with me whenever I’m not wearing them (which for some women would be every day! but I’m more interested in comfort than “cute shoes”), and keep a small go-bag in my office desk drawer as well as an emergency kit in my truck and a tiny emergency kit in my purse. And Survival Straps makes a lanyard out of paracord, so I got one.

    • Ms JeanneS, Unless I was with several armed people that I knew and trusted, I would never consider a tunnel.

  9. I find this article very good food for thought. Just a question though, is the reason you can’t make it home in one day because of health reasons? I ask because last I knew the average person walks at about a 2 mph pace which should put you home at about 5 hours give or take an hour for things that hold you up or obstacles. I feel jogging or running can be the best prepper exercise anyone can do and should be mildly good at it if only for the health benefits. Again great article.

    • kyle,
      Rule 1 in a Zombie Apocolypse is “Cardio”. I posted a response above to Charlie about my situation. It sucks getting old

      • Yeah Ron just read that, sucks man hopefully that gets better for you. Love the zombieland reference, very funny.

  10. riverrider says:

    good job ron, that is what i have been saying for years.”this ain’t no camping trip”. pack light, freeze at night, rock n roll. now maybe people will believe me:) my problem will be getting the wife across the river. she works at a hospital on the other side. they will want her to stay as long as possible to help. by then the bridges might not be the best way to get across, and she don’t ride the river like me:)

    • charlie (NC) says:

      riverrider, I have a 2 person kayak that I keep just for that purpose. It’s very stable in the water and has seats in it. It’s an Olde Town Loon (I think). The hardest part is getting in and out of it. I intend to repaint it in some sort of water camo pattern but haven’t done it yet.

    • I have several bayous (sp?) to cover but on the RR or off the RR there are many easy options. I see them as sources of water and not challenges.
      I wont freeze at night as everyday I dress for the weather, not the false controlled one in my vehicle or my office. Add a rain poncho and…

      • riverrider says:

        ron, “freeze at night” is just a light infantry expression. they(me) pack light to move fast, foregoing heavy items like sleeping bags and tents and even extra uniforms. socks, food, ammo, a poncho and liner, maybe a snivel sweater, thats about the packing list….about the river, my wife is rather scared of the water. i will probably have to go get her in one of my canoes. we’ll have to work out a plan. some of the areas down by the river are not the safest in good times, so first we need to recon the p/u point. then we need signals, and an egress point from my side of the river, and a way home. this assumes someone is available to guard the retreat while i’m out. it will have to dark, or dusk to be safe. i’ve got some work ahead of me. thanks for the post/heads up.

  11. GT Urban Prepper says:

    I really enjoyed this article. You sure you won’t be searching for asparagus?? 😉 Thanks!

  12. It must be nice to live somewhere you can think of having a handgun to hand. Most blue state make this problematic.

    • I feel your pain MethanP. And I thank God for getting me back to Texas.

    • eqfan592 says:

      Can’t really say that any more. Even most blue states allow concealed or open carry. It’s becoming an issue that is starting to slowly cross party lines.

      • If you live in the Peoples Republics of Illinois or New Jersey CCW is not an option. (Yes! I know NJ has a CCW on the books. Just try it if you’re not politicly connected.

  13. SurvivorDan says:

    Good stuff for the most part. I always have a flashlight and I also carry a small LED. Amber preferred for opsec when walking down those tracks at night. I often attach one to the bottom of my walking stick at night. Lights my immediate path and little else.

    My daughter works in Manhattan and has to get to Brooklyn, nine miles away. Her get home bag includes a pr of work gloves and a dust filter. Your walk home scenario may be the result of earthquake, hurricane, terrorist attack, civil unrest. etc. There may be damaged buildings in the way or a need to enter in order to lay low in. Thus, she has a small crowbar (the universal key) as it has many uses. Opening a vending machine. Helping someone trapped in a damaged car or structure. Getting out of a damaged building or breaking in for shelter. Additionally it makes a handy exigent circumstances weapon.
    She carries a compacted poncho for rain. Or improvised shelter. May be sheltering in a park. Or bushes along your railroad tracks.
    She has water, a LifeStraw and protein bars.
    I also included a small 1st aid kit which also contains vitamins and anti-diarrhea medicine.
    She has a Surefire, and two LED lights. Lighter and matches.
    She has a knife. Obvious uses. Whistle – signalling.
    Having been a grunt and knowing the importance of healthy feet on a long march, I included an extra pr of socks and some moleskin.
    She has two maps with alternate routes laid out.
    A small notepad and a pencil. Can be very useful.
    Pepper spray. (NYC so she won’t carry a firearm.)
    And a few other goodies. Her pack with gear weighs 10 lbs and an additional nine lb water in four 32oz bottles. A total of 19 lb which is a fairly light load for a fit athletic young lady. She also keeps a rigid hiking staff at work. Another exigent circumstances weapon.
    Liked your subject and the general advice. You gave it some thought. You may have planted a seed in a few peoples minds about making a GHB and a plan. Good job.

    • Anonymous says:

      Good list – one thing I would add – a green reflect vest that has health on it (buy it online) – It would look oficial without impersonating any one – and that may get her help or assistance or left alone – – just sayin…

    • riverrider says:

      dan, good tip on the light on the end of the stick.thanks!

    • SurvivorDan – thanks for the excellent information. My girl’s young but someday…I am picking up what you’re putting down. Hopefully she never needs it!

  14. Jennifer (Prepping Wife) says:

    This was an awesome article! I only live about 4 miles away from work and I havent made a GHB yet, primarily because everything I have read says you need so much. I appreciate concern for massive earthquakes and the like – in which case you might need a noise maker to help get you out of debris – but most of those articles just seemed like too much. I will have to get a pair of sneakers to put in my car along with a very heavy coat (incase we have a foot of snow on the ground at the time). My walk (or RUN as it would be) would be down hill, across a park, through a school parking lot and then down two flat streets to my family. Thank you for this great article which finally inspired me to put good shoes/clothing in my car.

    • Thats why the Wolfpack is here Ms Jennifer.
      Before moving to Houston my trip home was 1.5 miles.

  15. CountryGirl says:

    My excerecise is walking. Everyday I walk 4-6 miles. Everyday I walk through a different part of town. I just moved here and I have done this in previous towns where I lived. You gain a more intimate knowledge of a city on foot then you do in a car or even a bike. I could cite an example where by walking through a church parking lot to the back of the church you encounter a path that takes you to different street saving considerable time and distance. Natural and man made barriers to vehicles are often bridged or of no consequence on foot. Alleys are particularly useful. Where I live alleys are common but often not contiguous. Often the route is blocked for cars but can still be walked. Schools and parks offer great shortcuts but must be explored to find them. Not unusual that you can walk along the edge of a school yard or playground right to the next block avoiding the longer route by street. What value is it to know all this? when I’m driving I know where the dead ends are and if there is a way through them. I know multiple ways from point A to point B or C or D, etc. If I find myself afoot I know the shortcuts, the “dangerous” areas and even where the big dogs are. I admit not everyone has the time or desire to walk every street in their city but if you do you will learn some things that may be useful someday.

    • Great for you Ms CountryGirl. When I was a kid I knew all the path ways, allys, and shortcuts in the town I lived. Damn that was so long ago.

  16. Jackpine says:

    Couple of thoughts: Who else would be traveling the same route? If your route is the path of least resistance thats going to be a problem because thats the way most people will want to take (good and bad). Will there be technological problems on your route as well? Is your route a natural funnel into an ambush point? What is your second or third route if one is blocked? Do the people you are going to know your travel route and your travel time?

    • On the surface what you are saying would make sense, however that is not the way the human brain works. People like what is familiar and will travel the route they normally take, unless it is blocked. Then they will take side streets because they know streets.
      Remember the fire that occured several years ago at a White Snake concert up east? All of the folks that died did so trying to get out the door they came in. Emergency exits were not used.

    • The first mile has a lot of vegetation (a large park) the nearest homes are big, expensive and I would say safe. The best ambush site is the least likely one.
      About 6 miles south there is a high power line corridor that joins up with the RR right of way. Lots of open area and paths, not at all conducieve for ambush.
      Second and third routes would be city streets.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Ron, two things to keep in mind. As soon as the sheeple realize there is a crisis the first plac they are going to loot is the rich peoples houses,….. well right after the grocery stores and pharmacies…. hopefully you’ll be home by then. However, when you pass through those rich neighborhoods on the way home you might be seen by some panic stricken homeowner as one of the bad guys.

        • excuse me charlie but I have to ask you how you know people will do that? Has it happened before to you or someone you know? If I remember correctly during the LA riots everyone raided and looted there own neighborhoods and stayed close to where they live. Lets try to pass on facts everyone not speculation.

          • kyle, the people in LA were not hungry and desperate. They were just exercising thier right to loot and pillage.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Well Kyle I’ll let you answer your own question. If you were in an apartment in the city, out of food, out of money, nearly out of water, every store in your neighborhood had been raied and looted, people were dying in the streets and you had nothing to loose where would you go?

            • charlie (NC) says:

              meant to type raided. I’ll cede to you the point that it might not be immediate and Ron will probably be home by then. However, my point was that someone in one of those nice houses might well be sitting there with a shotgun scared of any stranger that happened by.

            • Either to a family members location or another friends place, I probably would have left before it was that bad. But let me recap you where talking about people raiding rich neighborhoods which hasn’t happened in this country that I know of which makes it speculation.

        • I have thought of this Charlie. Since the rich hood is the first I will have to travel thru (RR or Street) I should be gone before the panic stage sets in. Also those home owners are for the most part will be at work too when the EMP incident kicks our collective butt.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Kyle, I don’t know how else to put this but I feel sorry for you when the shtf because you seem to have no insight.
            You speak of what has and has not happened before. Man we aren’t prepping for anything that’s ever happened before. I’ve lived through hurricanes for 61 years and was always prepared for them. That is a way of life. I never thought of prepping as I do now until 3 years ago. Things have changed both in this country and all over the planet. There are no rule books to tell us what to do and we can’t find the answers in American History… well maybe we could if the Indians had written history books. If you want to look for historical answers study European history and ancient history. Also, you seem to have this idea that there is some code of honor in the hood that would cause those folks to say “ok well loot and raid our own neighborhood but we’re not going to bother those folks at the big house”. WAKE UP MAN! Have you been listening to what the Occupy WallStreet, Oakland and DC folks are saying? I suspect, and I hope I’m wrong, that you’ll understand by the end of this summer that things aren’t the same in America.

            • Having been to a number of countries that are far worse off than America I would say I have a very good understanding of how bad things are and how bad they can get, but hey believe what you want you obviously know more than me. Let me ask you a question, when the collapse happens do you still believe the rich will still be rich?

            • charlie (NC) says:

              OK Kyle. I’ve got your number now. You are not a member of this Wolf Pack. You’re a hope and change troll just trying to stir up some trouble. Goodbye!

            • Well im sorry that when someone has a different idea of how things might happen when a collapse comes about instead of mass chaos you will condemn them and not try and give it a moments thought. I feel sorry that there is no room for you to consider other people’s opinions or ideas. I will have to find another site with more thoughtful people, i wish you well in your endevours, thank you for showing me the scale of your reasoning.

  17. I’m new to this journey and just recently found this site because it was linked to from another one I visit. This is definitely food for thought and it brings home a major drawback of living in the country. I live around 45 miles from work. That is going to be a very long trek thru at least 5 towns. Each town would have it’s own difficulties. Considering where I work… that in its self will be a major challenge to get out the gates. Let’s just say I work in a secured environment and they probably will not want to let me leave.

    Question I have is… I know the new LED lights are on a circuit boards, but is there any actual circuitry. If so… we’d be better with an old school bulb light.

    • In an EMP event, the safe answer is yes. However there are a lot of variables. Small electronics generally will be at little risk if they are not plugged into the electrical grid or attached to large antennas.
      I have worked in a secure environment myself and we were expected to stay until our replacements could get in. In some scenarios the world outside will have passed from confused to crazed.
      Welcome to the Wolfpack SW.

  18. Hi Wolf Pack,

    I’ve been reading for a while now and today is my first comment…so be kind… 🙂

    I really like this article as I haven’t given any thought to a GHB. My daughter works graveyard about 15 miles from home and I can see I need to get something going in her car. Oh, great…I just realized my hubby and I are often 60+ miles from home in the summer, hummm I’d better start thinking about bags for us as well. At our age and with his health it could take weeks for us to get home!

    Great food for thought article, or in my general case, a lay awake and worry article.

    • Welcome to the Wolfpack Ms Debbie. Sleep is preperation for the next day so try not to lose any.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hey Deb – Welcome,

      Don’t lnow what age you are (not ask, my mom would be proud) nut Im 42 and one thing I can’t stress enough is any meds you or your hubby may need. Have a supply. I just asked my doc for a just in case prescription for antibiotics I take fairly often. They are good for two years then I switch out my stashed meds with a new set to cycle. Now I don’t sweat going places cuase I have my meds and can get to my doc at my own pace.

      just sayin….

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Hi Debbie,

      Good for you for taking the plunge and joining in the conversation. If your husband has serious health problems that would require you a week or weeks to make it 60 miles then getting home on foot for you is not really a viable option. If I were you I would make sure to keep my gas tank at least half full at all times and when you reach your destination away from home top the tank off when you get there. Make sure you keep good tires on your vehicle. Run flat tires would be good if you can afford them. Get detailed map books of your area like the ones from DeLorme that show not only main roads but back streets, trails, timber roads etc. Get familiar with alternative routes. Get a good set of bolt cutters in case you have to cut a lock to get through a private road but never do that except as a last resort in a life or death situation and you know that getting through that gate will get you home or to safety. Make sure to keep your car in tip top condition always. If you drive a small car or a car that is low to the ground consider trading to an SUV of some sort, preferably with 4wd.

      Look for the DeLorme “Atlas and Gazetteer” for your state and the states you travel through. I think they are available for all 50 states. Study it! Keep copies in your car.

    • Welcome the the Wolf Pack Debbie! You will love this site. I cannot tell you how much I have learned. But please don’t let worry control you. Just do a little every day. Every time you fold and save plastic or paper gorcery bags, wash and save empty plastic food containers (i.e. butter tubs, etc), buy an extra can or two of food to put away, you are getting farther down the prepper road and you will be surprised how fast it adds up. GHBs are something I haven’t done yet, even though we have lots of food, water, guns and ammo. So that is my next “must do” on the list. Just remember, its a journey, not a destination for all of us right now. We will never be finished prepping, so take it in stride and don’t get overwhelmed.

    • Copperhead says:

      Hi Debbie!
      Welcome to the Wolf Pack…it’s a great pack, full of info and caring folks.

  19. Bulldog94 says:

    Great Post! Made me think how the kids get home from school also.
    Keep up the good work folks!

  20. Bulldog, I had not even thought about school kids.
    I recently heard about a mom that taught her challenged son the way home from school by using photos. Wish I remembered the details.

  21. Just in case people don’t think a solar flare can cause any disruptions here on Earth, check out what happened last night:

  22. A really good article Ron, thank you. I’ve been concentrating on things at home without even thinking about how I would get back here without a vehicle…time for a little change in plans! (I’m another one who’s gotten well past my best hiking/camping days).

  23. Ron,

    Thanks for this article. About walking railroad tracks–be careful. Rattlesnakes like to lay coiled on tracks. I almost got bit as a kid.

    Putting a bike in the back of your truck if things are looking bad is a good idea. If you put a rack on the bike, you can put your get-home bag in the rack. It would take you less than two hours to go 13 miles. If you got a mountain bike, you could ride the tracks. The mountain bike has two benefits: you will be home quicker, before folks realize what is happening and it’s quite, so it won’t attract attention like a motor bike.

  24. Phil in L.A. says:

    Great Article Ron, I have ben pimping the idea of bicycles for years, reason number one the north vietnemesse and vietcong moved hundreds of pounds of supplies via bicycle. Bicycles are very steathy, you can move through a bad neighborhood undetected at night. You Can cover way more ground on a bike than walking, I walked 13 miles in about 4 hours, on my bike at cruising speed that same distance will take me an hour. The down side to all that speed might be tunnel vision. I am not a big fan of a bug out vehicle, I just picture 200 miles of constant ambush of the roads and I doubt you will get out of your own neighborhood with blocked roads. So a good sturdy well maintained bike is always a great idea.

    • I believe everything depends on timing. Whats a great idea today is suicide tomorrow. Two weeks from now it might be 50-50 doable.

  25. Kelekona says:

    Keep in mind how sharp railroad rocks are. Anything with a good tread will give you enough protection, but your dogs will probably be barking by the time you are done.

    If your car isn’t big enough for a bike, try buying a razor scooter. You do have to keep an eye for sidewalk cracks, but you won’t get thrown if your weight is at the back. Also practice with it to see if it can’t get you far enough to justify carrying it any distance, or far enough that it was worth the cost of losing it when walking becomes preferable.

    Is there ever a time when it is advisable to let official relief take care of you?

    • Is there ever a time when it is advisable to let official relief take care of you?

      If I understand the statement right, I was going to say no however… If people are lining up for water and MRE’s I had for OPSEC reasons better get in the line. I do not want to be noticed as not needing the handouts.

      • Kelekona says:

        For official relief, I was talking about the handicapped and aging members finding themselves in a situation where they’d have a choice of a several-day forced march home or sheltering with the sheeple.

        I only have rumors about some of the Katrina refugees. No idea what went on in the stadium, though I did hear of families being split during evacuation and no one told where they were going to be bussed to.

        • riverrider says:

          never, ever, become a refugee. ask the millions of dead in africa, bosnia,germany, others.

      • +1

  26. Rob in Ontario says:

    Heres something I was wondering about- what if you are at your bug out location, and something happens do you try and make it home to get everyone else? or you sit and wait?

    • charlie (NC) says:

      Rob, that is all part of your bug out plan or emergency plan.
      It depends on the abilities of your family members. Everyone in your family needs to know where to go and how to get there in several different scenarios. I don’t think that is anything any of us can tell you. If your wife and family (assumption about your family) can handle making the trip alone it might be best to stay put. If not you might need to go for them. That doubles your risk but probably reduces yours and you’d feel a lot better knowing they weren’t on the road alone. You’re going to have to have to ponder on that a bit.

      • Rob in Ontario says:

        I’m sorry I should have mentioned I’m single so would be for getting back to look after my mother and help my non-prepping brothers and sister and their families would add 5 more men and 6 more women to the group – none no all what I have or what I have stockpiled

  27. charlie (NC) says:

    I’ve got my eye on one of those new 29″ wheel mountain bikes. They have big fat tires that will take more load than standard bike tires and the frames are built to be abused. I’m a big guy and tall to so that size frame should work well for me.

    You are right about the stealth aspect of a bike. At night you can get up a head of speed and coast past something almost invisably. Unless someone is looking right at the street they’ll never know you went past.

    • riverrider says:

      charlie, just remember a whole lot of bikes are stolen or taken by robbery even in good times. might a robber envy your nice bike and obvious load of goodies? just a question, not a criticism:)

  28. Ron, great article! Really lots of stuff in it that I had not thought of. Thanks so much!

  29. I may be wrong, but I wouldn’t depend on stealth biking. Especially at speed. If an EMP or like event is the problem it will be quiet. In suberbia during a blackout you notice the quiet even when traffic and power is going 1/2 mile away. I think the best use for a bike is as a pack horse. The Japanese and North Vietnamese used them that way. You pack your load on the bike and push, alternating sides to rest. Even a crip like me who can’t actually ride a bike can manage that.

    • Lets also remember that in an EMP event and a major metro area (which is what was used in the original scenario) there will be millions of vehicles dead on the asphalt with all of those drivers, passangers and those pouring out of workplaces, all walking around. Gonna be Kind of hard to speed thru.

      • Well not necessarily Ron, if you read that report that was made on this exact topic ( the one the book One second after was based off of) they tested a number of cars the years 80s through 2002 models and found most of them showed minor problems if at all like needing to be restarted or minor problems with the dash board gauges. So I think we can feel relatively secure in knowing most of our cars will work.

        • riverrider says:

          k, thats what i have been saying. they won’t believe me though.

          • RR,
            The problem as I see it is books like One Second After, where everything except the Volkswagens are dead. I suspect more people get their information on such things from books like that, than from scientific literature. I still keep my electronics stored in metal case, or cabinets as an added precaution, but in general, most modern electronics will fair rather well, with the exception of the power grid and things connected to it at the time of the event.

            • riverrider says:

              op, i agree on second/third/ fourth hand info, but i was actually there. once in the mil, once in college. in the mil experiment, i was just a stage hand moving vehicles and equipment in and out of the zone, but i got to see it work and talked to the conductors. in that one, only one vehicle shut off, a gsa van, and it started right up again. about 50/50 of the radios w/ antennae and power fried. all radios w/out survived. they told me that any more powerful of a pulse would likely kill the operators….in college we were the experimentors with the help of the physics lab and engineering dept. basically the same effects, though a mini grid that we built fried transformers and all. not much else was harmed. thats just my experience, yours may vary:)

  30. Thanks, Ron, for getting us all to think about this a little harder. My daughter and I have our GHB’s in our vehicles and have talked and planned for different scenarios and I think we’re okay on that end.

    One thing I think people are forgetting about is that any prepper is going to be ten steps (figuratively speaking) ahead of everyone else if something bad happens. Think deer in the headlights. As soon as we hear or see something that’s just not right, we are going to be in full-tilt action – let’s roll. Others will be searching the internet for info/news, trying to reach loved ones on the phone, waiting to see what is going to happen, won’t know how to get home if their bus isn’t running or their car isn’t working and they will be thinking it will all snap back to “normal” if they just sit tight and wait for someone to tell them what to do. They will be overwhelmed and in a state of shock and bewilderment. They will wait for the “officials” to instruct them. Sheeples.

    Perfect example was 9/11. We all just sat there stunned staring at the television in disbelief in a dreamlike state – this CAN’T be happening! Play back some of the news video of that day and watch the reactions of people – especially the news folks and you’ll see what I mean. Think of your own initial reaction.

    As preppers we’re awake – WIDE awake. We’ve made our plans, talked it out with our families and friends. Everyone should know what to do and how to do it and where to go and how to get there at the first sign of trouble. We’re prepared. That’s who we are. We’re the Wolf Pack!

    • I would like to bring some thoughts in on this. Those people you say that where watching the tv on 9/11, what where they supposet to do besides find out what was happening? How was something that was happening in New York gonna affect me in Kansas? It sometimes seems like we get this self righteous air about us like we are awesome and better than others, hence the term sheeple. Shouldn’t we be trying to help educate and even protect these people and help rebuild our neighborhoods? Sometimes I think some of us become spiteful maybe because we have been ridiculed or called crazy and we want something to happen to show those people up. If this is anyone thought process then I suggest some soul searching.

      • riverrider says:

        kyle, maybe con was talking about the folks in nyc. even the folks in the darn buildings stayed put too long, waiting to hear from authories. i was a few miles away at andrews, screaming into the tv “get the hell out of there! ” i could not believe people were being told to stay, and they were doing it.

        • RR,
          I saw an interview with several FDNY members who were making a quick check of each floor as they evacuated the second building. The first building was already down, the second building was nearly empty and filling with smoke, and two of these guys had to drag a guy away from his computer and down the stairs. He was determined to finish his report before leaving. This is normalcy bias to the extreme, and can and will get you killed.

      • Kyle,
        I think we have talked about charity here on numerous occasions, and that we should be willing and able to help our neighbors in these situations, but realistically we can only do these things from a position of strength, and from an emotional standpoint, only after our loved ones and friends are safe and sound. Everyone has the ability in one way or another to look at the world around them and make contingency plans. Those who don’t do this will have consequences, because stupid is supposed to hurt. This isn’t arrogance on my part, but my belief that we should all take some responsibility for our own actions. I talk about the “generic” “you”, when I say that “your lack of planning does not constitute my emergency”. It has nothing to do with me wanting to see someone punished or hurt, but the priority of getting me and mine into safe circumstances before rendering aid to others. I work with our local EMA and Health department and part of our contingency for pandemic or biohazard is to get treatment (generally antibiotics) to all first responders (Police, Fire, EMS) AND their families, because we realize that none of these folks can do their jobs of keeping the peace and rendering assistance efficiently, unless they know that their loved ones are not in jeopardy.

        I suspect I speak for the intentions of the vast majority of folks here and in the prepper community in general.

        • Yes you are right OP all of what you said is true I was merely pointing out that some people seem to have that air about them that they prep for the wrong reasons and it would turn me off to the idea of survival if I was new to it.

          • charlie (NC) says:

            Kyle when I read your comment above I got this vision of you, sitting on your porch, with your arms crossed saying “WELL I NEVER………..!” while your family is being dragged out of the house and your possessions taken. If you or anyone else reads what we right on this list and get’s “turned off” that is their choice. The rest of us will try to find time to feel sorry for you as we go on and try to rebuild.

            • Charlie,

              Don’t waste your time trying to explain yourself to an negative-minded, atheist troll who in a single week has nit-picked several people’s posts.

            • Well your vision is skewed seeing as how that won’t happen. I truly wonder how much of your ideas and visions of bad times is based on movies you have seen or books you have read written by “experts” that have never been through or lived in a SHTF world and how much is based off of the real world and history.

            • charlie (NC) says:

              Bam Bam, thanks for the advice. Funny thing is that right before I read your message I replied to Kyle and called him a troll. Wish I had seen your message sooner. I would have saved my time. Don’t worry. I’m through with him.

            • Charlie,

              I sometimes get sucked into the BS too. The folks who only post negative messages and never post what they are doing to prepare are not worth getting worked up over. And the one you mention is an atheist troll who has never contributed, only detracted.

        • OhioPrepper,
          You certainly speak for my intentions. Well said.

      • Kyle,
        I think you missed the meaning of my post. I was pointing out that in certain scenarios I believe as preppers we will have a small window of opportunity to get ahead of the crowd to get ourselves and our families to safety because of our planning. There was absolutely no intent of an air of self-righteousness or superiority on my part.

        RR was correct below in that I was referring to folks right in the middle of chaos waiting for some kind of “official” confirmation that what they were seeing/living was real and then waiting for “official” directions on where to go and what to do. In some cases they were given misinformation and wrong direction from their “official” sources. I, like millions of others, sat in front of the tv just staring in disbelief. I was that deer in the headlights. As I said, my wake-up call.

        I can only speak for myself. As I already have said here on this blog, I will be protecting myself and my family first and foremost, and then I am all about helping others in a common-sense manner. I am stocking for my own needs and extra for charity.

        I’m sorry if my post was poorly written and you misunderstood. But one thing is for certain – and I will say this very clearly so there is no misunderstanding on this one – I would never, repeat, never hope for a shtf scenario to happen so that I could show anyone up. I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself.

        • As to Bam Bam, shows how much you know. Oh my gosh someone dosen’t agree with everything on someones post? Must be a troll

  31. Copperhead says:

    Really great article, Ron. Thanks for all the good info.
    I, unfortunately, live in an area of Texas where there is very little water available, so I am disturbed about being able to carry enough. Wonder if Lint Picker had any luck dehydrating it? 🙂 I’m not a young, agile chick, so walking long distances will be difficult for me. Will just do the best I can for the shape I’m in! I cannot carry a backpack, so have one on wheels, which will make it even more difficult if I have to go ‘off road’. But I might be able to carry one of those water bladders that fit on your back…will have to check that out.
    All take care…..

    • I understand Ms Copperhead, after all, We moved here from El Paso. I would suggeast carrying the fixings for a solar still.

    • riverrider says:

      copperhead, have you thought about a garden wagon, or a hand truck, deer carrier?

      • Copperhead says:

        Ron and RR, thanks for the suggestions…always welcome.
        If I am home, water will not be a problem as I have getting the water out of my well without electricity covered. My problem is if I’m in the “city” 35 miles away and am trying to get home. I think walking will be my only choice. My BOB has the wheels and I may see if I can attach something to that to carry some water. Just no rivers/streams etc between city and home, which is my BOL. The humidity lately has been 4-15%!!
        Thanks, guys, for the advice!

        • Sometimes there is no great answer or solution. At best we may find a few options that with the right timing and a little luck (Gods Blessing) may result in the ending we want. And if we come up short then we re-enact the Alamo, take out as many of the goblins as possible with us.

        • riverrider says:

          cop, when i rode my scooter out west, i noticed everbody had blue jugs in their vehicles and thought “why is everybody hauling kerosene around” LOL!!! little did i know. when i got to tucumcari, instead of beer at the hotel bar it was water, all night. must have drank 10 gallons. someplaces you just have to tote it with ya:)

  32. Thanks for the advice everyone and the welcome!

    Hubby and I went to the boat today (the 60+ miles) for some ‘spring maintenance’ and I chatted about getting back via foot. Although if we’ve enough gas in small containers we could dingy almost home!

    DJV you’re right but as I tell my daughter, worry is my middle name. LOL When the ecconomy fell down 3 years ago here we lost 80% of our income. That’s when my daughter began to understand my pantry. We lived off it until I could get another business up and limping along. It’s doing better now and for the past few months I’ve been rebuilding it…on a much larger scale.

    Daughter picked up a stalker a couple months ago and I’ve added some weapons and a mound of ammo to my house, along with some training that I continue to take.

    Anonymous, I’ve been thinking of how to stockpile some of the meds my hubby and daugher take. I’m thinking we could have an imaginary small child visitor that thinks dumping the pills in the john as a fun thing…then get refills and just pay for it.

    Charlie NC will definately look for “Atlas and Gazetteer”.

    Appreciate the wolf pack even though I’ve been a fly on the wall until now. Much here to learn. Thanks again all for the kind comments.

  33. eqfan592 says:

    Thanks for the great article! Gave me some things to think about for sure!

  34. charlie (NC) says:
  35. Ron,
    Between the article and the numerous comments this subject looks to be well thought out and covered; however, there was one item that I didn’t see anyone mention dealing with bicycles and railroad tracks. There is an outrigger available for purchase or as a DIY project to allow your bicycle to ride the rails. Once it’s set up, you simply sit on the bike and peddle and I suspect you’d make short work of those 10 miles of track. You can Google for the details, but here is a short video of one in use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJ_o_WyvgA

    • charlie (NC) says:

      There is an online book with a survivalist/prepper theme
      that employs one of those bikes. Some of the Wolf Pack might enjoy reading it. A friend told me about it because the story starts a few miles from my home. It’s a good and fairly quick read.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Opps, that link takes you to a site where the link to the book is posted but it seems to no longer work. The book is The Long Road Home by Puternut.

        • charlie,
          Thanks for the book title. I read this book a couple of years ago, and that’s actually where I got the idea of the outrigger, but I could not for the life of me remember the title, even though I have a pdf of it in my Self Reliance folder (along with perhaps too many other things)

    • O.P.,

      This is brilliant. With little resistance, a person could do 10 miles in an hour. And there would be little noise.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Bam Bam, apparently the book I mentioned has been pulled offline. someone wrote me saying the rights to it had been bought. Anyway, the story is about a truck driver who got hijacked in coastal NC and had to make it back to Florida basically on foot. I won’t tell the whole story but he had one of those rail bikes staged at a storage unit in SC (I hope I’m remembering right) and made a good bit of the way home riding on the rail.

        • riverrider says:

          charlie, i read that story, it was awesome!!! couldn’t find it when i went back to finish:(

        • charlie,
          Yep, you’re remembering correctly. Perhaps it will get published at some point, as it is a pretty good and well thought out story. This is not all that uncommon, keeping in mind that both Patriots and Lights Out started out similarly as freeware/shareware publications.

  36. Great post and good comments, a couple of stray thoughts. Electrolytes, a catsup packet has salt, sugar, and vinegar so it is chock full of them. Salt and sugar packets, grab a couple extra at the coffee shop or burger joint. simple prep just in case of long hike on just water. For a quick time pace try jogging 2 paces then walk 2 paces repeat, seems strange but it is a pace that can be kept up even with a pack and rifle. Bernard Cornwall’s books on Sharpes Rifles and the mini series show this technique quite well. The advantage is it covers ground without the jarring of an outright run or jog. plus it saves your wind. Toss in random three or four step bursts and you become a hard target to snipe from distance. It does take conditioning so try it first. Found supplys, custodians sometimes store extra trashbags in the can under the one in use, these can be handy in an emergancy. Rubber bands, paperclips and a couple of paper napkins, or coffee filters improvised dust mask. My mountain bike has a 49cc two stroke motor. 20 mph for about 90 miles on a full 3 liter tank, cost is under $200, there are some 4 stroke units for around $350, not for everyone but I hope to use it for scouting between my house and my dads.

  37. walked home from work with a buddy of mine about 6 months ago. We picked a nice day on Friday just to have a control for the experiment. We were not in good shape, but not were healthy.

    we carried two 19 oz plastic water bottles each, and had a small daypack with a few snacks since we would be missing dinner. we each wore tennis shoes.

    The distance was 18 miles, and we covered it in 6 hours. We took a short 5 min. break about every hour. The terrain was suburban and industrial with sidewalks only about 1/3 of the way.

    We completed the trek tired and with sore feet, but proved to ourselves we could do it.

    lessons learned: Wear a better pair of shoes or hiking boots, get a walking stick first thing (it really helps, and doubles as a weapon for dogs or other nasties), do this in pairs if at all possible (the conversation and additional awareness/security are great benefits), travel as light as possible but include necessities (tp may be needed)

    Most people walk at a pace of 2 to 3 miles per hour. Terrain will be much more pronounced on foot. I thought our path would be flat, but I was very wrong. there were many hills. As with anything practice.

    nice article, I am glad it was on the site.

  38. john sprague says:

    Knowing where a bike is could make a huge difference and save many hours for those that are further away than the story’s scenario. Many large cities are starting bike rental programs. Look into it. j

  39. I broke down in a bad spot the other night, (the computer for the engine died) I thought now what? A older gentleman came out on his porch and asked if there was anything he could help, I asked him to call my husbands cell phone and tell him I was broke down. Then he sat on the front porch and watched over me untill my husband could get to me. I offered to pay him for his time and security, he replied that it was the way he was rasied. To help others.


    • I think under normal circumstances most people will do the right thing and/or be helpful. Its sometimes hard to remember because we tend to forget the majority bit not the smaller numberof jerks, petty criminals and just mean people.

      • charlie (NC) says:

        Ron I agree completely with your thoughts. The problem is that a few bad actors can do a lot of damage and in the big cities these days folks are not allowed to defend themselves so the bad boys will be free to do whatever after tshtf and law enforcement is overwhealmed. Anyone who doubts that can use New Orleans in the days following Katrina as a model. The interesting lesson is that the more rural and suburban areas outside of New Orleans that were just as severely affected immediately began securing their property, cleaning up and rebuilding. Other than the overwhealming damage they had very few problems but New Orleans became a 3rd world country overnight.

  40. charlie (NC) says:

    sorry, should read overwhelmed.

  41. SickSkilz says:

    Great article. I always like to have at least one actionable item from great posts. In this case, I have a GHB in my truck. Though I am almost 30 miles from work, I am in very good shape and believe I could get home in 6 hours even if I lost the use of my truck. I also store walking directions in my GHB. But, I wear dress shoe to work so I just now took off the older tennis shoes I was wearing and put them in my truck.

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