What I Did to Prep This Week

What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 20 – Nov 11th – Nov 17th 2018

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This has been a miserable weather week here on our survival homesteading retreat, fellow preppers. It has been not only extremely cold, but the wind has been so bitter it stings your face and makes your eyes water when outside working. Winter, in all of its wretched glory, has arrived in my little corner of Appalachia.

We did not accomplish many physical preps this week, but did a lot of mental prepping. In an effort to further hone my emerging apothecary skills, I went on a spending spree on Puritan’s Pride. Of course, the day after my box of goodies arrived, the website started a buy one get two deal. I love their nearly constant buy one get one free deal, but still kicked myself for ordering just a little too soon.

I stocked up on a lot of my standard apothecary fare, but also purchased extra ginger root and multiple bottles of Ashwagandha. It is also commonly referred to a winter cherry, Indian ginseng, and poison gooseberry. This ancient Indian natural medicine means, in Sanskrit, “smell of the horse.” It was so named because not only for its seeming ability to increase overall body strength but also due to its rather unique scent.

It stems from a small shrub and its yellow flowers in both North Africa and India. Ashwagandha comes from a plant in the nightshade family. Powder or extracts from either the leaves or roots have been used as herbal medicines for about 3,000 years.

Ashwagandha has been known to help the body better manage stress, aid in relief of neck and back pain, lower blood sugar levels, and enhance brain function. The healing power of the plant is often attributed to it rich withanolides content. Withanolides may be a vital fighter of both tumor growth and inflammation.

The type of cancer Ashwagandha has been most tested to combat include colon, lung, ovarian, and breast.
I also invest a significant portion of this week’s prepping dollars in elderberry and Echinacea immune support gummies. I love these things. Not only do they taste delicious, they give me this natural burst of energy and early morning perkiness that even my morning Coke cannot provide.

My Bobby doesn’t garner the same perky effect when taking two of the gummies each morning, but he has learned to take them without complaint – in the end I always get my way so fussing about something truly just is a massive waste of time.

He has fought what we loosely think has been walking pneumonia since late June. After putting him on a daily dosing of the Ashwagandha, gummies, turmeric, and ginger root – along with doubling the garlic and oregano that I use when cooking, there is an incredible difference in his health.

It took about two weeks, but he no longer has a lengthy coughing fit when he lays down in bed at night, and in the morning his lungs and chest are also far more clear.

unknown berries

Anyone in the Pack know what these berries are? Bobby found them out in the woods somewhere and I am still going through my guides trying to identify them. I had an app for plant, berries, etc. identification, actually several, both they all tend to get things wrong on a fairly regular basis, so I don’t trust them anymore.

Other than my herbal buys, we worked on a bugout list for loved ones, both related and not, that are exterior members of our prepping tribe. These are folks with skills that are not exactly preppers, just normal country folks – and we all grow up with various outdoorsy skills.

We have reached the prepper awareness and courting process with several families that a list of what they need to bring with them to our survival homesteading retreat, was in order. Yep, several are just going to shake their heads and laugh about my devotion to this life assurance plan I have been inching into their lives, but they will take the list, review it, and keep it handy. As I noted above, I tend to get my way using sweet firmness.

Most folks are going to grab medicines, weapons, ammo, and some changes of clothes, but that would be it. On the list I issued are the following:

1. All prescription and over the counter medications.
2. All herbs and spices in your kitchen cabinet.
3. All cleaning supplies you have.
4. All first aid supplies you have.
5. Warm winter clothes (even if it is summer when the SHTF) and every pair of socks, shoes, and shoe laces you own.
6. All important documents (property deed, insurance packets, birth certificates, etc.)
7. Photo albums – these are precious, irreplaceable, and morale boosters.
8. Any hand tools and fuel you have room to pack – everyone here drives trucks, SUVs, and have trailers that hitch up to them.
9. All the food you have – even if it is perishable.
10. Morale boosters – 1 bag per person.

This week’s questions:

1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? If so, to what level of success, in what kind of treatment?
2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea as part of you natural apothecary?
3. What is your winter prepping routine? Do you also spend this time doing inventories, learning, and honing new skills
4. And last but not least, what did you do to prep this week?

Tara Dodrill

About Tara Dodrill

Tara Dodrill is a homesteading and survival journalist and author. She lives on a small ranch with her family in Appalachia. She has been both a host and frequent guest on preparedness radio shows. In addition to the publication of her first book, 'Power Grid Down: How to Prepare, Survive, and Thrive after the Lights go Out', Dodrill also travels to offer prepping tips and hands-on training and survival camps and expos.
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155 thoughts on “What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 20 – Nov 11th – Nov 17th 2018

    1. Puppy put his head in a free pumpkin bag….Pumpkin head….LOL

      Bought 14 year old Glenfiddich scotch, cabo wabo and some vodka.
      Bought 2 twelve packs of rolling rock beer.
      Bought a 28 lb turkey and all the fixings.
      Bought 3 pies, apple,cherry and of course.
      Bought meds.

      Being ready for Thanksgiving is a prep…..

      Happy Thanksgiving all…

      Oh did everyone here about the Democrat from California that wants everyone to turn in their “assault weapons” or the government would nuke them……LOL what a moron.

      1. 1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? If so, to what level of success, in what kind of treatment?
        2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea as part of you natural apothecary?
        3. What is your winter prepping routine? Do you also spend this time doing inventories, learning, and honing new skills

        1. No just Cabo Wabo…..LOL
        2. No but I heard a French guy on Monty Python talk about elderberries.
        3. Staying warm with firewood, driving the 4×4, eating garlic and honey to keep up immunity system.

        1. My dear Daughter…had a blonde moment… No she was messing with the Mrs and asked ;

          How long does it take to cook a turkey in a microwave ?

          I said did you ask frozen or thawed….LOL

      2. Thor1,

        Bought 2 twelve packs of rolling rock beer.

        Growing up in PA as a kid, that was a local beer that I understand now has national distribution from Latrobe. The company is 70 or 80 years old and it’s good to see it’s still around and appreciated.

        Oh did everyone here about the Democrat from California that wants everyone to turn in their “assault weapons” or the government would nuke them……LOL what a moron.

        You used both Democrat from California and moron in the same sentence, and I just wanted to point out that it was redundant, LOL.

        1. TOP, you’ve got a point there….LOL

          I always liked Rolling Rock and remember Robert De Niro saying Rolling Rock was a good beer in the movie The Deer Hunter.

          He was my favorite actor until he let his political views out. Now you you couldn’t pay me to watch one of his movies…..

          A shame, Democrats ruin almost everything except a good beer….

  1. Hubby and I are driving into Hell, to Chico CA. His mom is doing poorly and his family, is trying to get help for her so we are in the middle of Oregon, driving down. We’re going to try and get her to go to a walk in clinic and have them check her out. She’s calling and leaving rambling messages which is not like her. As far as prep’s, doing a lot of cleaning cupboard’s and tossing out expired spices, and stuff like that.

    1. No never used that type of plant
    2.Yes, we do use Elderberries, in cough surup, and tincture.
    3 Yes, we have cold clothing, in fact I’m starting to get them out.

    1. Mom of three,

      Your MIL may have a UTI. It causes altered mental status in the elderly. They usually don’t drink enough water….

      1. We’re hoping that’s it too I’m having hubby, see her first and stay in the truck until he checks her out we probably will take her to a walk in clinic this evening and hope that’s her problem…

    2. Mom of Three
      Be safe you are going into a war zone, from all the evacuee’s from Paradise. Hope you find out what is wrong with your mil.

      1. Will do we have several friends who lost everything, one friend was very blessed to have still have their house. We’re taking masks, water, and toliet paper. We still need to stop to get some food, to cook.

  2. Tara, is Bobby allergic to hay or has he been cleaning the barn without a mask? It can bring on symptoms like that. I have picked up asthma from cleaning the horse stalls without a mask, and since you have been doing a lot of renovating in an old place- just something to think about. Now if I’m doing anything like moving boxes, working in the barn, doing hay, or anything dusty or potential for mouse poop, I always use a mask, and elderberry tincture afterward. Haven’t had a problem in three years. Just a thought.

    1. Hmmm, never thought about an issue with hay. I don’t think so, but that is worth pondering more. He is actually going to the doctor in about an hour or so. Thanks to liberal idiots and Republicans with no backbone, the nation still has Obamacare and we don’t have any health insurance. We had a quality and affordable Anthem policy – not through an employer, before Obamacare. But $1,500 a month premium with a $12,500 deductible is just not affordable for a middle class family. No pre-existing conditions and hospital in next county, closest one, was in network but docs, technicians, X-ray services etc. are not.

      1. Tara, & Bam Bam, & all,

        He is actually going to the doctor in about an hour or so. Thanks to liberal idiots and Republicans with no backbone, the nation still has Obamacare and we don’t have any health insurance. We had a quality and affordable Anthem policy – not through an employer, before Obamacare. But $1,500 a month premium with a $12,500 deductible is just not affordable for a middle class family. No pre-existing conditions and hospital in next county, closest one, was in network but docs, technicians, X-ray services etc. are not.

        I understand. For the last 40+ years and prior to PPACA I always had great health insurance. The plan we had starting in about 2014 was the “Bronze” plan that ran $1400.00 per month and had an $8000.00 deductable. It pretty much drained our savings and the only thing that really saved us was my DD graduating from college and finding a job with health insurance and the fact that the DW & I aged into Medicare. They take those premiums right out of our SS and other income sources easily pay the supplemental and other expenses.
        Saving all you can at your young age as well as paying off the mortgage and eliminating credit card debt is very important, and when you bite the bullet now, it makes retirement a much easier and less financially tight situation.

      2. Tara,

        If I had caught your comment about walking pneumonia earlier I could have suggested pet-grade antibiotics. I am way more concerned about having a good supply of antibiotics than with doing herbal stuff. (And I do herbal stuff.)

        1. Respiratory infections respond much quicker to a combined therapy most of the time…antibiotics with herbals. doxi, cipro, amoxil,keflex,and generic flagyl…all are important to keeep on hand. Usnea, pippsiwea(sp?) lomatium , (Urinary support formulas are also effective on respiratory issues.)….and others…for resp. issues peppermint oil and Oil of Oregano are very good. a few drops of each (4-6) in olive oil and applied to chest wall and feet ( with socks)chest application,with a warm moist towel and heating pad… will break up much congestion quickly.
          By the congestion being really bad in evening sounds like some kind of allergy/exposure isssue is starting… Oregano… great stuff. even works on resistant bugs., used diluted with warm coffeee and sublingual highly effective. for resp. both upper and lower… garlic ditto. garlic vinegar.. about 20 toes of garlic, prepared for allicin effect, in 10 oz acv. dose of 8 cc, q 4 hr. after several doses removed refill with acv… as long as cloudy is effective.mix with honey to take. a little honey make the medicine go down..LOL

          1. Bam Bam ,
            Often when I stuff up I am not ready to get undressed. The wind tends to bring in pollens and contminants I react to. The soap is not an item I have found necessary, tho it might be nice.

            Usually i drink hot coffee with a drop of peppermint oil and possibly being diluted and rubbed behind both ears and under jawline…all get me draining quickly.so can putting one drop into a small amount of coffee and stirring vigorously.. just put it in a good glass, ceramicor stainless cup. it reacts with plastics. By the time I am ready for bed, I am open and the diffuser is loaded ..

  3. Questions:

    #1. No.
    #2. Yes.
    #3. This winter is about move, delete, and reinventory. We got the constuction we needed done in Oct, the storage unit’s rent in due in Jan, so we have about 7 weeks to get it empty.
    #4. …..
    Got my Volume 2 in of “The Growth of the American Republic”. Xmas gifts arrived for the DW. 2 #10 cans of AF Scrambled Egg mix and locking storage tubs, 2.7 qt.: 6 (Walmart on-line)

    Looks like the oven in “non-economically repairable”. Since the “Black Friday” sales are now going on all month, we got her a new Frigidaire; delivery (free) the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Our military discount paid for the removal of the old one and the power cord (not included but required). It was $500 in repairs or a newone for $470.

    1. JP,

      It has gotten ridiculous that every little thing is an extra charge when buying appliances these days… Good grief, why didn’t it come with the power cord for Heaven’s sake?

  4. This week we got our first snow for the season in Kentucky. We had an ice storm and it brought down a lot of trees. The problem was that it has been warm for so long we still have a lot of leaves on the trees and when you add in the ice, the weight was too much for many trees/branches. I think we had Fall for about 2 days, although it is supposed to be great this weekend with weather in the 50’s. It was such a hot summer and I’m glad the weather is cooling, but I hate the bitter cold.

    I’m still trying to get used to our new change of life with my grandson’s Type I diabetes. It is so hard when your whole life is changed. But thank goodness he is taking ownership of this and is doing good. They keep adjusting the medicine each week until we can get the perfect dose. I’m taking it one day at a time.

    In July I took a hammer and broke up big pieces of hard clay dirt in the garden for nearly an hour, then got on my hands and knees and washed the floor. My arm has been hurting since I did this. My muscles in my arm have been so sore I couldn’t even raise my arm. I finally went to the ortho doctor last week and he ordered an MRI. I should get the results tomorrow, but I sure hope I didn’t tear my rotator cuff. He gave me a shot of cortisone in my bursa and I feel much better. I need to do some muscle training for sure.

    I’ve been watching the news about the horrible fires in California. The number of people dying is still rising. I have never lived in an area where I had to worry about forest fires, so I don’t know how or what process happens when there is a fire.

    My question for the group….Why do you think there were so many deaths? Was there any warning? Did it spread so fast that it blocked escape routes? I read that several people were burned to death in their cars trying to get out. Thanks in advance.

    1. Terra:

      Someone more familiar with the area than I am said there was only one road in/out of the area. People got trapped. Axelsteve might have better information than I do.

        1. Terra,

          Oh my! I didn’t know there was only one way in and out. How horrible.

          This may be more common than we realize. My kid sister lives and works in Key West, Florida, and except for boat or aircraft, she also only has one way in and out.

      1. JP, I heard that some fires MAY have been caused by smart meters……There may be a pending lawsuit with a utility company….

        I wonder if these were conservative voters in this area……Hmmm

        CIA 101 the perfect murder looks like an accident…..

      2. JP in MT
        I Have not been to Paradise and I have only driven by the Chico cutoff a few times.
        I do have friends who moved to Paradise a couple or a few years after thier house burned down in lake county. I feel sorry for them cause they are getting to old for that excitement.

        1. It’s true. There are only two ways in and out of that town. It’s something that the local reps, as well as the Congressional reps have been screaming about for years. The fire broke out so fast and so hot and it caught people by surprise….that many actually died in their cars trapped in traffic.
          I’m north of there, outside the area Redding and where the Camp Fire roared just earlier that year.

          The one note you have to ask yourselves is this:
          PG&E had announcements that it would be shutting down power to Butte County and other counties due to “weather conditions”….To the exact same counties these fires were in.
          PG&E was also found guilty of at least 12 of the fires we had in 2017.
          They are killing us in rates, stating they need it to upgrade infrastructure, but then never do it.
          I had a fire in my backyard that I would swear started at the power pole, since no one was near and the burnt markings spread out from it. Luckily we had a fire hose attached to our AG pump and great neighbors who saw the smoke and warned us. (we were in the house making dinner)…it could have been worse and we could have lost everything.

          My heart breaks for all affected. Maybe some sanity will return to those in office and they will finally stop catering to the enviro people and allow logging and dead fall clean up again.
          Cheers!

      1. Almost There,

        Be sure to watch the videos embedded. One has DEW’s striking cars during a protest last year at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.

        I looked at the videos and looked at his photos and the things he says he “believes”; but, there is perhaps a more simple reason for some of the disparity in destruction he points out. The darker the object, the faster it will absorb the radiated heat and in the case of asphalt, melt & catch fire.
        You can prove this with a simple experiment. Lay two thermometers out on the ground on a hot sunny day. Cover one of them with a white cloth and the other with a dark (preferably black) cloth, and see which one heats up fastest.
        From his article I find these specific lines very interesting.

        It is my goal to NOT TELL you what is going on, but to have you look into this yourself.
        This is growing evidence that there is some shadow Illuminati / Luciferian government doing these sorts of things to the American people.

        So we now have directed energy weapon commanded by none other than Lucifer?
        This would I suspect make even Alex Jones cringe.

    2. Terra,

      I’ve helped fight wildfires when I was in the Marines. They burn HOT and if there is a wind, they also move FAST. If you don’t bug out when told, you will probably be dead. There is no such thing as riding out a wildfire if you are in its path. This is one of those situations where keeping a BOB next to your door, or even already in your car is important. You might get away with riding out a Cat 5 hurricane, but will not survive a wildfire.

    3. Terra,

      My question for the group….Why do you think there were so many deaths? Was there any warning? Did it spread so fast that it blocked escape routes? I read that several people were burned to death in their cars trying to get out. Thanks in advance.

      As I understand it there’s a battle between president Trump and Governor (moonbeam) Brown about the causes; but, from what I’ve gleaned from credible sources it’s been one of those perfect storms, years in the making. Forest management has been severely cut back in part due to environmentalists stopping the “evil” lumber companies like Weyerhaeuser from harvesting some of the trees and the deadfall. The deadfall can be chipped into slices and used to manufacture building materials like OSB; but, when not properly harvested and cleaned out, it builds layers of the perfect tinder for starting a large fire.
      Lack of rain in the west due to the normal El Niño and La Niña cycles and the movement of the Jet Stream also contributes.
      Finally, a lot of people live in these beautiful remote wooded areas with not much in the way of highway infrastructure, so ingress and egress can be dangerously limited.
      Add to that, the normalcy bias we see in these situations all of the time and perhaps a little distrust of government when people are told to evacuate. This is not just a California problem; but, a people problem, that we all too often see when hurricanes approach Florida, or head into the gulf.
      Knowing when to “bug out” and having your BOB ready is something that needs to be thought through if you live in places where this could become reality.
      Hopefully Sirius will contribute once again since he lives about 475 miles south of Paradise and probably has some good Intel on the “local” situation.

      1. Ohio Prepper,
        I have heard that they had not been taking care due to the environmentalist.
        Thanks once again for your thoughts and wonderful insights. I enjoy your contributions so much.

        1. Terra,

          Ohio Prepper,
          I have heard that they had not been taking care due to the environmentalist.

          I’ve heard this from multiple news sources; but, also from Sirius in the past few days on a telephone call. While he is not directly threatened by the fires, he has had some power problems and intermittent internet availability this past week or two. He plans to get back here when he can; but, he has some breathing issues and the smoke in his area some days is pretty bad, so he stays in where his HEPA filters can make the air safe for him.

      2. We’re about 50 miles south (as the crow flies) of the Camp Fire in NorCal. The fire began about 6:30 am Thursday morning the 8th of November, due to high wind (and probably a power line). During a 90 minute period that midday, the fire was advancing about one football field (100 yards) every 3 seconds. Read that again: 100 feet every second! Even for those folks who got evacuation notice (and many didn’t), that rate of spread could, and did, easily outrun the one exit route, already engorged with evacuees. Though many blame poor National Forest management, the truth is that it started on private land, and burned through a town before moving into public land. PG&E had already notified us that they’d be turning off power when wind ‘events’ were forecast, but hadn’t done it yet in the area eventually burned. Many of us foothill dwellers expect occasional power outages in snowstorms, and prepare for such, but we should now prepare for summer and fall outages, without resentment, to postpone wildfires. I say ‘postpone’ because we look at each other and say, “It wasn’t our turn this time.” We are doing what we can to make our property more fire safe, but some folks just don’t have the money to clean out their property of fire hazards (brush, low branches, dry grass, standing dead trees). Their neighbors are then all at risk. Our Sierra biomass is based on periodic fires; just like the sloughs and dunes of the Atlantic coast formed in response to periodic and totally natural hurricanes. We look at coastal dwellers and say, “They shouldn’t rebuild there!”, while others look at us and say, “They shouldn’t build there!” I think we neighbors will cooperate and contribute to helping make our surroundings less prone to swift-moving wildfires. Meanwhile, yes, the National Forest should be more aggressive in thinning and prescribed burns, at appropriate seasons. Butte County’s schools are due to reopen Dec. 3; the lowland dwellers have stepped up and really responded to the needs of their upcountry neighbors. It’ll be a long, long haul to live ‘normally’ again.

    4. One of my coworker’s sister is from Paradise. She went to a shelter when she could not get out of town. (She is in very poor health.). The shelter caught fire, but they all survived by standing in the middle of a large parking lot, as the police and some firefighters kept them together.

      1. DW of JP in MT
        They interview a lady from that group on the local news. She thought they would not survive, so she took pictures of herself & her son on her phone. Then sent them to a family member in case they expired due to the smoke, & fire.

        1. ntique Collector,

          They interview a lady from that group on the local news. She thought they would not survive, so she took pictures of herself & her son on her phone. Then sent them to a family member in case they expired due to the smoke, & fire.

          That has to be a horrible situation; but, evidently not all that uncommon in certain areas of the country. I was watching a Weather Channel show called “Hurricane 360” and the episode focused on Katrina; but, not on New Orleans. It focused on other low lying, hard hit places like Gulfport, Mississippi where the storm surge engulfed most of the downtown area.
          Police and Emergency managers were trapped in their buildings and took photos of each other, plus signed their names to a numbered log, after which they wrote those numbers on their bodies with a permanent marker, for later identification. As it turned out, they survived; but, scenarios like those have to be horrible, and as I think about those situations, looking at the snow out my window, it doesn’t seem quite as cold as the thermometer says it is.

    5. The Gatlinburg fires were similar, tho not nearly as large. Too many wooden houses too close together(they refuse to use zoning or building codes), only one way in or out, propane tanks( it’s the only reasonable way to cook/ heat here- other than woodstove), and tremendous winds in hurricane for e. There were gusts up to 90 mph. No warning, and by the time it was realized, that the fire was spreading, no time to get out. Several cell towers were disabled.

      1. Our region of Appalachia is very similar to Gatlinburg – except they have a mountains and we have a series of really big hills. Half or more of my county is state or national forest land. We don’t have any building codes or zoning either, lots of log cabins – hunting and camping are big business in the tri-county region that is also home to Wayne National and state forest land. Most homes here also have wood burners and/or propane heat.

        Yet, we have brush fires due to stupidity that are quickly contained by our all volunteer FDs in the county. But, we are also the logging capital of the Midwest – proper forest management helps a lot. Our state forests are select cut, but controlled burns are no longer allowed, which will one day eventually be a problem.

    6. Most people, were at work when it happened so that’s why so many animals died too. It swept through so fast it was burning super hot and fast. Walmart, has over 1000 tents in their parking lot. Our friends lost their Worm Farm, it just went through the canyon, cooking worms, we’re hoping they can rebuild.

    7. Terra, I have been dealing with some major shoulder issues as well, work related. Chiropractor fixed me up, the month off after my GB surgery helped immensely too. Went back to work with no issues, until I had to switch shifts and start closing again. I will be returning to the chiro after the holiday, cuz it’s worse this time around. (A cortisone shot sounds good right about now, LOL) He did give me strengthening exercises, but of course, I didn’t follow through. Once I am in less pain, you can bet I will be doing them, LOL! Good luck, hopefully you just need some physical therapy–but look into a good chiropractor too.

      1. Grammyprepper,
        It is a tear in the rotator cuff and a SLAP tear, whatever that means. I’m scheduled for January surgery, since I can’t have my right arm in a sling for Christmas preps.

  5. Hi gang,

    1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? If so, to what level of success, in what kind of treatment? Have heard great things about it.

    Here’s Dr Axe’s info regarding it. https://draxe.com/ashwagandha-benefits/

    2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea as part of you natural apothecary? Have some elderberry syrup in the freezer, and will be making some tincture soon. Don’t have any echinacea at the moment.

    3. What is your winter prepping routine? Do you also spend this time doing inventories, learning, and honing new skills? Making sure I have good tires on my car, unhook the water hose, and shut up the vents. This winter, I want to get stuff out of the freezer and into some canning jars.

    4. And last but not least, what did you do to prep this week?

    Didn’t post last week, so have a few additional things to report…

    Learned a new word, 32 characters long – cyclotetramethylene-tetranitramine. And you ask why did I learn that word last week? Well, Goodwill had a cool looking pressed cardboard barrel, plastic coated inside, with the metal bands at the top and the bottom… I knew it had to be old, but not sure how old, and it looked good and sturdy. I needed a container for some wood twigs, kindling and such… Perfect. I put in my cart and off I went… Then I got to reading the actual label on the container… Ammunition…. What the heck? Am I going to be contaminated by whatever substance was in this barrel? So, I looked it up on my phone, and then called, you know who… TOP.. To find out what it actually was… After a few minutes of discussion and reading up on it, we decided surely it came inside some other wrapping, as it said it contained 15% water… So, we surmised it must have been a powder with water added for transport. Imagine that. Sure looks like it’s from WWII… They had another one today, but it had the lid and ring with the clamp to seal it… Had a sticker that said “puzzles” on the top… and you guessed it, Ämmunition” on the side. I got that one too… 🙂

    Found 2 washable bed chucks, 10 – 1/2 pint canning jars with lids, 3 jars that have the clamp thing, a gallon jar with lid, cotton blanket (for my fetish), quite a few very nice men’s merino wool sweaters (again for my fetish)…

    Have been contemplating how I will survive the winter if the electric goes off and I have no heat since the woolly worm is all black at my house this year… Last year I bought the Mr Heater, 30,000 BTU propane heater, but haven’t been able to get the propane tank and line ran yet. So, I was at a quandary as what to do in the meantime… Make a long story short, no kerosene heater – would have to buy it and the fuel, messy, and complaints of smell; no big buddy Mr Heater – would have to buy, would have to buy hoses, not safe to sleep while running. Decided, with the help of TOP, to buy the needed materials to use the propane Mr Heater that I already owned. After digging it out of my storage unit (there with you JP, plan on getting rid of mine by the end of December too), headed to Lowes…. First person I asked in hardware pointed me to plumbing after looking at the heater connection, plumbing guy not too sure, went to get “Carol”. Carol is the expert on fittings…. Guy finally came back with “Teresa”. Teresa listened to my plan and headed to find some fittings. Plumbing guy and Teresa went somewhere for quite a while and by this time, it was a 45 minute ordeal… Many calls to TOP… Guy and Teresa finally came back with some fittings and ball valve, and we went over to the grill dept since I needed a hose to connect to the 20lb tank. Teresa gets the indoor garden guy, and we find a 10′ hose, regulator, tube of pipe goop, and fittings. Over an hour later, I’m off to the cashier… BUT, not before I remembered the $10 coupon burning a hole in my wallet. Needed a new drill. Good time to buy. Found a Dewalt 20v on sale. Now, close to 2 hours later, headed to the cashier… And yes, the Black Friday deals are getting out there before Black Friday as retailers try to beat each other out for sales.. Pretty soon, we will have “Black Friday” on Halloween.

    Bought some LT food for stash, cat food, rice. Got a turkey out of the freezer, since I bought 2 more Friday. Will be cooking it up tomorrow.

    Prayers for the people in CA, for America, for those needing healing, unspoken requests, and for the President.

    That’s all for now… Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Give thanks for our many blessings.

      1. Thor1,

        I don’t know what C 4 is, but this is HMX, and it says it resembles RDX… None of which I know a thing about. There is no visable residue of anything in the barrels… And someone was using one to store puzzles… Surely, GW would not sell something that is dangerous… (being a little facetious here).

        1. AT,

          C4 is military grade plastic explosive. Very stable. You could smack a ball of the stuff with a baseball bat and nothing bad will happen. In fact, soldiers and Marines often use a piece of it to cook with. It burns very well.

          To make it go “boom” you need a blasting cap.

          1. Z36, I’ve heard stories of soldiers cooking with C4 like it was canned heat, but getting their foot blown off if they stamped it out while it was lit. Any info on this?

          2. Thor1,

            I’ve never heard of this happening, but I did ask a Green Beret I knew about it. He said it requires much more heat and pressure to set it off than simply setting it on fire and stomping on it. But he did recommend not doing it because one should not tempt fate. Smothering it with some dirt usually takes care of putting it out.

          3. Thor1.

            I’ve heard stories of soldiers cooking with C4 like it was canned heat, but getting their foot blown off if they stamped it out while it was lit. Any info on this?

            I have 2 observations here.
            I had a friend who was on a LRRP in Vietnam and they used to use C4 for cooking, and of course other things.
            The first time I realized this type of thing was as a pre-teen. I had an uncle who worked in the mine in western PA and handled explosives, some of which he kept at home. He once took a ¼ stick of dynamite and lit it with a propane torch. I was freaking out until he told me it was not a problem; but, if he dropped it on the ground and hit the burning end with a hammer, it might explode. I have handled a few explosives myself in a misspent youth and other than Nitroglycerin, most explosives are quite safe to handle.

          4. TOP,

            Dynamite can become a problem when it gets old. It will start to “sweat” nitroglycerine and becomes pretty unstable.

          5. Zulu 3-6,

            Dynamite can become a problem when it gets old. It will start to “sweat” nitroglycerine and becomes pretty unstable.

            I am well aware of that; but, this was relatively fresh dynamite and although the event was back more than 50 years ago, I still remember it. My uncle Blair passed away more than 25 years ago and handled explosives for Bethlehem mines, long before the restrictions we now have since 9/11.
            I think the mines and quarries now use cores drilled into the rock and filled with ANFO instead of dynamite.

          6. TOP,

            Yeah, I understand that ANFO is the explosive of choice now in mines and quarries. Much safer to handle than dynamite and more bang for the buck too.

      2. Thor1,

        Just looked up your link… Different stuff. Probably same class. The label says it had 15% water, so would assume it was in a bag inside the barrel…

        1. AT, yes its not stable like C4….. I thought you said it was a full barrel…. Wwwoooo

          On a lighter note there is a car made by Acura that is called RDX, I wonder or its like a ford pinto…LOL

          1. Thor1,

            AT, yes its not stable like C4….. I thought you said it was a full barrel…. Wwwoooo

            No it was an empty barrel and we spent a bit of time on the phone and in Google to find out what it was. HMX is chemically similar to RDX; but, there didn’t appear to be much if any residue. I had to finally look at the MDS for the chemical and we determined even if there was residue, it would not be a problem. Not worried about explosive hazard; but, perhaps a toxic handling hazard. It would be interesting to see how GW came up with this and yet another (anymore LOL).

  6. I did my low-carb grocery shopping this week. Added a little to my stash.

    Not a whole lot going on in the prep area this week. I did pull out some of my guns, did a quickie clean on them, and re-lubed.

    Between my low-carb diet and resulting weight loss, and trips to the chiropractor, my back pain is mostly gone and low-grade when there is some. More achy than stabbing. I continue my diet, chiropractor visits, and taking glucosamine sulfate. My knee pain is also reduced, undoubtedly from the weight loss and glucosamine. I’m down 25lbs in a month. My blood sugar is also under control and within normal limits for me.

    I am ashamed to admit I live in Florida around election times. The Broward County Supervisor of Elections is either a natural-born incompetent, or an intentional one. It’s a toss-up since she is a Dem. But now she has pulled the race card and everyone who criticizes her is a racist. But that card pulling is getting old and not as many people pay attention to it anymore. Plus, she looks like ten-miles of bad dirt road. Makes ol’ Maxine and Nancy look good.

    Thor1 has Puppy, I have Granddaughter. I can’t believe how quickly that little girl learns things. She is talking in sentences, mostly short ones, but she’s getting there. Her parents and I are definitely in the spelling words out stage, so she can’t understand, but I don’t think that will last long with her. She knows the names of all the cartoon shows she watches and the names of all of the characters. She even helps carry firewood like Puppy. Well, not exactly like Puppy. We go out and collect sticks and twigs for my rocket stove. She is very helpful and does a good job. She loves playing outdoors and getting dirty and muddy. A bit of a tom boy in her. #1 daughter is introducing her to sewing and the baby seems very interested in it.

    Tara’s Questions
    1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? No. It sounds like the name of a Zulu War battle site in South Africa. But I’m a jerk that way. 😊
    2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea? I use elderberries to make a syrup and tincture, but not echinacea. Echinacea sounds like a skin disease. I know it’s not, but it does.
    3. What is your winter prepping routine? No real change. I live in Florida after all.
    4. Prep this week? See above.

    1. Zulu 3-6
      LOL “sounds like a skin disease “.
      While I’m reading your posts about your granddaughter, I’m smiling the whole time. She reminds me of my granddaughter. The best part is that we get to spend quality time with them and be part of their life. When they get excited to see me and run to me with open arms, it makes my heart melt.

      1. Starting after Thanksgiving I will be getting a lot of quality time with my 2 year old granddaughter (she is also my only grandchild). My wife has decided to work three overnight shifts on the weekends and after sleeping all day Monday keep her all day Tuesday through Friday and drop her off a 4:00 pm on her way to work her Friday night shift. I imagine Papa is going to be included in many outings and nature walks (being retired I will be here all day).

        1. Daddio7,
          Congrats on your only grandchild. You will have so much fun with her especially now that you have joined the retirement ranks. I’m loving it too. 3 years for me since I retired from my stress filled job.

    2. Z36 Puppy laid down on the floor and was watching a football game yesterday. Guess what team it was ???

      Yep the Ga bulldogs….. LOL Too funny ,he’s a dog fan……

      I hope Granddaughter doesn’t try to carry firewood like puppy he carries a quartered or halved log in his mouth, that would mean huge dental bills for Granddaughter…. At least braces…..LOL

    3. Zulu 3-6,

      I am ashamed to admit I live in Florida around election times. The Broward County Supervisor of Elections is either a natural-born incompetent, or an intentional one. It’s a toss-up since she is a Dem. But now she has pulled the race card and everyone who criticizes her is a racist. But that card pulling is getting old and not as many people pay attention to it anymore. Plus, she looks like ten-miles of bad dirt road. Makes ol’ Maxine and Nancy look good.

      Are you talking about Dr. Brenda Calhoun Snipes? LOL
      She’s a transplant from Talladega, Alabama, so take that to mean what you will, LOL. She after all is a Doctor, With a master’s degree in Curriculum and Instruction for Adults from Florida Atlantic University, and a doctorate in Educational Leadership from Nova Southeastern University. So much for higher education, LOL.

      I can’t believe how quickly that little girl learns things. She is talking in sentences, mostly short ones, but she’s getting there. Her parents and I are definitely in the spelling words out stage, so she can’t understand, but I don’t think that will last long with her.

      This makes me nostalgic for my DD at that age, remembering the fun and surprises you’ll still be having. She was my little girl much like your GD and in a another 2 months will turn 28, so get all you can get now, since it’s gone way too soon.

  7. The questions; 1. No 2 No 3 In Florida winter means you can do some physical labor outside without getting heatstroke. I used the first cold day to pull up the fencing I was using to protect the garden I had planted in the field next to my driveway. The bird netting I used worked but weeds and sweet potato vines had grown into it. After snatching 100 feet of that out I was done for the day.

    Being this was very fertile farm land (plus it rained all summer and hasn’t quit yet) the sweet potato vines continue to grow and are very thick. However I just got my backhoe repaired and I will use it to dig them. I have a very delicate touch with that thing and it will be no problem for me to loosen the dirt under each row with the digging bucket.

  8. Hi Tara & all,
    Once again, no email announcement that this post was up and running.

    We usually think of moving south for the winter to avoid the cold; but, just 2 hours north of you we’ve had different weather than you describe. We did awake one morning to a beautiful coating of ice on everything and one other morning with snow on the grass; but, in both cases that was all gone by early afternoon. Our nighttime lows have hit 30° a few times; but, it’s generally been in the high 30’s and the wind hasn’t been too bad except when going into the local towns where the large parking lots can be a bit breezy.
    We have ordered from Puritans Pride for years; but, always wait for the sales that are offered by their sometimes daily email announcements.
    Wihle I don’t practice botanical medicine all that oftern I do pay attention and when you state:

    Ashwagandha comes from a plant in the nightshade family. Powder or extracts from either the leaves or roots have been used as herbal medicines for about 3,000 years.n as the nightshades

    I have to smile, since so many people think of the nightshade family as being poisonous and perhaps deadly, often not realizing that tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, and eggplant (as well as tobacco) all belong to the same botanical family,.

    hey give me this natural burst of energy and early morning perkiness that even my morning Coke cannot provide.

    You do of course mean Coco Cola, right? LOL
    Personally we’re hoping to purchase some elderberries here shortly to make both syrup & tincture. Back in western PA growing up, elderberry bushes grew wild everywhere and I would hope the your area of Ohio was not much different; but, all of my sources statewide don’t know of any.

    He has fought what we loosely think has been walking pneumonia since late June.

    Over the years I’v gotten my influenza vaccinations and two different pneumonia vaccinations and I can’t remember when we’ve have the flu. The first and last time I ever had pneumonia was back in 2008 when I spent 2 days and a night in the hospital. That was the year we took our trip to Hawaii and I thing being cooped up in an airplane for more than a dozen hours with sick people on the return flight, was probably the proximal cause for that illness.

    These are folks with skills that are not exactly preppers, just normal country folks – and we all grow up with various outdoorsy skills.

    That sounds very familiar. While not many of my neighbors or even my MAG often use the term ”Prepper”, in fact most really are.

    We have reached the prepper awareness and courting process with several families that a list of what they need to bring with them

    We are actually in great shape here; but, it is often a precarious dance broaching the subject and getting a heartfelt response. The fact that the DW grew up around here helps a bit; but, being active in preparedness organizations and teaching classes surely helps a lot, in meeting the right people.

    Now the answer to the quiz:
    1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? If so, to what level of success, in what kind of treatment?
    No I have not.
    2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea as part of you natural apothecary?
    I have used both and will be continuing to start using othere like Timeric and Cayenne. Up until the last year I took some heavy duty anticoagulants for aFib and many of the ”natural” remedies can have interactions.
    3. What is your winter prepping routine? Do you also spend this time doing inventories, learning, and honing new skills
    We keep our inventory on a running basis and work on skills continuously.
    4. And last but not least, what did you do to prep this week?

    Once again, this is the easy one; since I keep a running tally during the week and this past week we did and acquired the following:
    1. A local ham friend helped me install a new VHF antenna that will allow another radio to be operated simultaneously with some of my current gear. The amateur radio community seems at times to be a national MAG, since all of us generously help others to learn or do things in the hobby. The friend is 20 years younger than me and is 6’ 1” and that combination made short work of the task.
    2. Consulted with Almost There on the telephone as she was purchasing an empty explosives container at GW. She’ll have to explain, LOL
    3. Our Sump Pump died as they sometimes do; but, a quick call to a local retired plumber and a trip to Home Depot fixed the problem. The pump with tax was $140.17 paid with free gift cards from credit card points, so the problem was corrected the same day, for a little cash and helped out an old friend in the process. Being prepared means being able to handle repairs like these on occasion or having someone who can, and in this case what would have taken me hours to accomplish, was completed in half an hour and helped another local retired business person.
    4. Received another free $25.00 Home Depot gift card in the mail
    5. Received 2 Globe Electric 32″ Multi-Joint Desk Lamp with Metal Clamp from Amazon
    6. A lineman from our local power cooperative was here this afternoon to fix our security light. A new light bulb (Sodium Vapor) and photo sensor were replaced and it’s now good as new. Without the light, my DW had forgotten what “dark” really looks like out here in the country.
    7. I read an insightful and in a way, spooky column, entitled: “America’s Cold Civil War” that may be found here: https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/americas-cold-civil-war/
    8. Weather radios alerted @ 01:35 with a freezing rain warning. We awakened to a winter wonderland with a coating of ice on everything. This is where being retired and not needing to go out onto the treacherous roads is really nice. LOL
    9. Picked up a new camera tripod to shoot some videos for an article I’m working on. (yes Tara, it’s coming)
    10. After more than a month of lean times while molting, the girls are finally producing eggs once again and nearly back to full production.
    11. Had some discussions on the telephone with “Almost There” and it appear she now finally has the materials to get her 30,000 BTU ventless propane heater running.
    12. Ordered 20 Pair of 30AMP Anderson Powerpole Quick Disconnect Power Terminal Connectors. I use these to interconnect all of my ham radio equipment in both the house and vehicles.

    1. TOP:
      Thank you for sharing the link on the cold civil war. We have a military historian in the family that has voiced similar ideas and concerns. Scenario 1 actually happened with 9/11 but the unity was short-lived. My personal preference as one with Libertarian leanings would be scenario 3- a return to federalism. But the push for states-rights in the 1980’s was also short lived.

      As one that does not yet have time to scan the Internet for good articles, I am grateful to those on this site who share their findings.

      1. Moe<

        Scenario 1 actually happened with 9/11 but the unity was short-lived. My personal preference as one with Libertarian leanings would be scenario 3- a return to federalism. But the push for states-rights in the 1980’s was also short lived.

        True about 9/11 & I agree with Federalism being our best bet; but, perhaps now the “Convention of States” can get together and clean things up. It may be another impossible dream; but, sometimes real hope for change is what keeps you going.

        As one that does not yet have time to scan the Internet for good articles, I am grateful to those on this site who share their findings.

        I am retired; but, don’t spend all that much time on the internet except for specific research (generally in radios and electronics) and of course this forum; but, I have a network of people all over the country that keep an eye out and pass things on to me.
        I had a long conversation on the telephone this morning with Sirius who is doing OK; but, there are fires edging closer to his location, bringing mostly a smoke hazard. He said his truck and car are now both a light shade of gray and need to be washed.

  9. The memorial service for my mother was nice. The church was packed. I didn’t expect a big crowd because the service was on Tuesday morning. We had the reading of the will that afternoon. My mom left me a chunk of change. Now I have to decide if I want to pay down the mortgage or make some investments.

    Folks brought over a lot of smoked meat to my mom’s house–more than we could eat. I brought home a good 10 lbs. of smoked beef and shredded pork. I used the meat to make another big batch of chili. I put up 16 five-cup containers in the freezer. That’s 16 dinners for my dh and I.

    We were not able to make it to the grocery store last week, so we had a lot to buy this week–mostly perishables. I have been stocking up on canned goods. I also purchased a 40-lb. bag of dog food and some 38 lbs. of cat litter from Chewy. They are less expensive than Walmart and have free shipping on order over $50. With a GSD and four cats I don’t have a problem spending more than $50. If you are a new customer you can save 20 percent off your first auto-order. You say what you want and how frequently you want it shipped–4, 6 or 8 week intervals. I realized they track “new customers” by email address. Now that I have so many jobs, I have many email addresses. So I am a new customer every 8 weeks.

    We have been purchasing some Christmas gifts. Eddie Bauer is having some excellent sales right now. I got dh a nice flannel shirt and I got myself a shepra lined flannel coat. My dh got me a new pair of trail shoes and some peppermint foot lotion. The Body Shop is also having some good sales.

    I have started a winter coat drive at my martial arts academy to college coats and other winter items for the homeless. We do have about 6-10 days of below-freezing weather. The largest demographic of homeless is veterans; the second is mentally-ill adults. That’s sad really.

    Questions:

    1. I have never heard of Ashwagandha. I will do some research.

    2. I take elderberry tincture every morning in my tea. If one of us gets sick, I make up some elderberry cough syrup.

    3. I live in Florida. My winter prep list is to turn off the air conditioner and pull out the hoodies. It is hot today so we have the AC running. But we’ve had the windows open for the past two days.

    4. See above.

    1. Bam Bam,

      Now I have to decide if I want to pay down the mortgage or make some investments.

      The only guaranteed investment is to pay down or pay off that mortgage. I have owned 2 houses free and clear in my lifetime and although the financial advisors will warn you not to do so, paying off each house was a great day. They’ll tell you that you lose the mortgage interest deduction; but, paying the bank $6000.00 in interest to save $2000.00 in taxes never made sense to me. The new tax rates and the new SALT rules on deductions make even that deduction less important. Whatever you’re current mortgage interest rate is, becomes the guaranteed rate when you pay off early, and once paid off, all of those payments you used to make can be directed towards savings and investment.

      I have been stocking up on canned goods. I also purchased a 40-lb. bag of dog food and some 38 lbs. of cat litter from Chewy. They are less expensive than Walmart and have free shipping on order over $50.

      We also keep our canned goods topped off and although I’ve seen the Chewy commercials, we hadn’t followed through; but, it looks like we need to take a look.

      If you are a new customer you can save 20 percent off your first auto-order. You say what you want and how frequently you want it shipped–4, 6 or 8 week intervals. I realized they track “new customers” by email address. Now that I have so many jobs, I have many email addresses. So I am a new customer every 8 weeks.

      I like your style and I have the ability to create new unique email addresses on a 1-2 hour lead time for as many as I need, so I really need to check them out.

      1. O.P.,

        I emailed you this week giving you more specific info on my situation and asking for your advise. I do think I am going to select option B.

        1. Bam Bam,

          I emailed you this week giving you more specific info on my situation and asking for your advise. I do think I am going to select option B.

          The last email I have from you is dated 9/15/2018.
          I filter on your “gmail” address into your own folder, so it you sent if from another address I’ll have to look for it & add that filter as well.

    2. Bam Bam, it depends on your mortgage interest rate and whether you can invest in securities that provide a greater return on investment. We remortgaged a few years back from 4.625% down to 3%. If I could achieve even a 6% return in the market, I’d be 100% ahead of the game. Invest in dividend-paying mutual funds or ETFs, even better.

      1. PS – so sorry again to hear of your mother’s passing. Glad to hear the service was well attended. I hope your good memories give you comfort.

      2. Maine Brain,

        I am under 4 percent on my mortgage and over 6 on my investments. I am going to opt to spend my inheritance to pay down my mortgage, despite the numbers. My dh is 20 years older than me. If I lose his income before I pay off my mortgage I will be in bad shape. I have a call into the mortgage company to see how much I have to pay down to get payments where I want them to be.

        1. Bam Bam,

          My dh is 20 years older than me. If I lose his income before I pay off my mortgage I will be in bad shape. I have a call into the mortgage company to see how much I have to pay down to get payments where I want them to be.

          With your mothers recent passing I don’t want to sound morbid; but, that is in part what life insurance is meant for. If you know your balance and interest rate, you can easily do your own calculations on how extra payments affect your mortgage balance, and work out the amortization based on your personal situation.
          I keep running spread sheets for taxes, so I know what kind of lump sums I can pull out with minimal taxes. Spreadsheets can be very useful for such things as budgeting, taxes, and interest.
          The downside to paying off early is in part the loss of the mortgage deduction; but, with the doubling of the standard deduction to $24,000.00 for a married couple, that takes up a lot of the gap.

        2. Perfectly understandable. Our goal is to sell our house next year, take the equity and buy another house, and live mortgage-free in retirement. There’s really no bad choice here, Bam. Getting rid of debt is always a worthy endeavor. No two people have the same circumstances. And if loss of DH’s income would put you in a bind, then by all means plow every penny into debt reduction. Again condolences on your loss. My mom died on Nov. 1, 1974, and it’s always a somber day in my house.

      3. MaineBrain,

        If I could achieve even a 6% return in the market, I’d be 100% ahead of the game. Invest in dividend-paying mutual funds or ETFs, even better.

        I’m doing well on some old line stocks, like Altria, Caterpillar, and Verizon; but, I purchased them a long time ago, after paying off my house. The problem with getting a fixed return from Equities is that they can be volatile, unless you purchase an annuity. One of my IRA’s is an annuity with a minimum rate of 5% that has been ranging 6-7%. Each of us has to analyze our specific financial positions and pick the correct path, and our relative ages and time left to work definitely becomes a part of that calculation. I have outright owned and paid off two houses in the past 32 years; but, I was also able in both cases to purchase a fixer’ upper and do most of the upgrades myself, which can save a lot.
        You also need to think about your current housing market and how much longer you intend to stay in the house. In our case we’ve been here since 1984 and have no plans to ever move, so a paid off property is just better all around cash flow, with no monthly bills other than phones, internet, electricity, and Satellite TV that we could dump if money ever gets tight.

    3. Bam Bam
      Just read the posting on your mom, sorry to hear about her passing. Our best to you & your family in your time off loss.

  10. Hey everyone,

    Has anyone gotten the email announcement this week? everything looks fine on my side, so what I can do is delete your emails from the database (the ones that aren’t getting notifications, that is) so you can re-subscribe to the blog.

      1. Ok, I just removed you from the database, let’s try subscribing again, but not using the “free pdf” forms you see at the top of the page. Please try to check the checkboxes when you comment or post a reply.

    1. I also received the announcement… But, what is happening with me is that I have to keep typing in my name and email every time I post. And most of the time I have to check the follow-up and new posts check boxes every time as well.

      1. Also, Dan, when I click reply from my e-mail, it goes to the bottom of the blog instead of under the post that I am replying to in order to start typing the reply.

        1. I’m sorry to hear that it’s going to the bottom of the blog, I have no idea how to fix it particularly since it’s working well for me. Maybe if you tried a different browser?

          Also, I see you just replied to yourself, so it is working even if on your side it looks like it’s going to post a new comment at the bottom, and not a reply..

      2. Well the auto fill feature is usually browser-specific, perhaps the browser you’re using has it turned off? I know some website themes have this feature but it’s not something I could do on my side unfortunately..

        Regarding the need to check the checkboxes: are you doing it because you see them unchecked every time? If you’re getting notifications, you don’t need to check them anymore, your email is in the database.

      3. Almost There & Dan,

        I also received the announcement… But, what is happening with me is that I have to keep typing in my name and email every time I post. And most of the time I have to check the follow-up and new posts check boxes every time as well.

        I get the comment follow-ups; but, not the new posting announcements.
        I too have to fill in the fields but the boxes stay checked; however, with Firefox I only need to type one character and it auto fills the field, so it’s not a big problem.

    2. It asked for a VIP? YES or NO, I was not positive so I put yes.

      Hope it was the correct input, as I have never been asked this question before.

      1. Hi,

        You will have to apply using the checkboxes when you type in a reply. The subscription forms at the top (with the free pdf thing) are for a more complex newsletter I am building, but that one requires that I manually send updates, and I’m not doing that since I don’t have many subscribers at the moment. I will probably start sending that way soon, but until then you can use the other one, by checking the “Notify me of new posts by email.”

        You can also check the “Notify me of follow-up comments by email.” to get follow-ups to your comments. This feature won’t be available in the upcoming newsletter, unless I find a way to merge them, but I doubt it, as they are different systems.

    3. Dan,

      I am not getting any notifications. I do have one complaint. I do not like having to fill in my name and email for every post. Thank you for for forwarding the farmhouse table plans on to Tara.

      1. I can see, please read my reply to “Antique Collector” just above your comment. If you click the “Notify me of new posts by email.” you should start receiving them..

        Name and email thing.. this was also asked before.. it’s usually browser specific, Chrome and the other usually have this feature, if you want and can tell me what browser you’re using, I can search online for how to enable it.

  11. 1. Have you ever used Ashwagandha? If so, to what level of success, in what kind of treatment?
    No
    2. Do you use elderberries and echinacea as part of you natural apothecary?
    No
    3. What is your winter prepping routine? Do you also spend this time doing inventories, learning, and honing new skills?
    -For us: I have food from the garden stored, warm clothes, a means of cooking and staying warm without power, and meat in the freezer. (I got turkeys for 47 cents a pound.)
    -I also make sure the animals are cared for. (hay, feed, electric water buckets, straw for bedding, shelters in good shape)
    -The garden spaces are prepped for winter too.
    -I spend more time at the indoor range.
    4. And last but not least, what did you do to prep this week?
    -It’s deer season. DH harvested a nice buck.
    -I added food to the stockpile.
    -I cooked meals and froze them. This means all I have to do is heat them up for days when I’m short on time or when the power’s out.

    1. Prepared Grammy,

      -I also make sure the animals are cared for. (hay, feed, electric water buckets, straw for bedding, shelters in good shape)

      We have those heated buckets too and they are really nice!!!!

  12. Had a little “fun” tonight.

    Came home from the gun show, using my computer all weekend. Turn it on at home, can’t load Firefox. Chrome is gone from the computer. Forunately, the DW found MS Edge and reloaded FIrefox and Chrome and every thing is working like it never had an issue! Reminder to self – BACKUPS!

  13. 1 never heard of it
    2 i got them growing all over here and i have them in my medicine chest (a big wooden chest full of pint mason jars with various dried herbs, charcoal, minerals, etc, and morter and pestel) i dont use ecenacia because it doesn’t grow here
    3 winter activity the same as summer activity, cut wood, logs for milling, firewood, etc, repair stuff and make stuff (last winter i made a lot of baskets, a muzzleloading shotgun, 2 bows, 2 axes, etc).

    this week i tanned a few coon hides, working them to soften them up, made a coonskin cap out of one of the little ones, rendered down coon belly fat to save in jars, canned up the meat, fed the cracklins to the barn cats, built an addition on the back of my cabin/tar paper shack, stocked 200 bales of clover hay in the barn (traded lumber for it), dug a 100 foot ditch just before the snow fell, did a lot of government work in the barn (thats what i call it when i got to shovel bs, only place with more bs is a government office). stacked 1.3 cords of wood as well.

    1. Thor1,

      Everyone in Mississippi and Alabama, beware of deer that are infected with a brain eating disease, it can be transferred to humans. ( Maybe a ZOMBIE disease.

      That disease is found all over the place and is called CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease) which is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy and is associated with prions. In cattle it is called BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy) or Mad Cow Disease and in humans is called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, CJD. In all cases this disease is fatal.

      Also, salmonella outbreak in Jennie O turkey…..

      I think the article is rather clear. Turkey and any poultry needs to be handled carefully and cooked thoroughly. This is something I was taught as a kid, and wonder why so many have not yet gotten the message.

        1. Thor1,

          TOP, CDC stated about romaine lettuce too….
          Just trying to keep everyone safe….

          I understand and agree; but, you would I think have to literally live in a cave to not know about the lettuce. I watch Fox News & Fox Business along with the local CBS affiliate and listen to several local radio stations. They have all been talking about throwing out the lettuce.
          Sometimes it seems that the CDC is around to protect us from the incompetent inspection regimen of the USDA, since we keep hearing about food contamination.
          On the turkey handling, I see that on every national and local new show every year; but, I suspect there are some younger folk just starting out who may not be aware of the safe handling procedures, so it doesn’t hurt to remind everyone, especially when we might get in a hurry preparing a large meal.

          1. Thor1,

            TOP, ugh, come out of your cave and listen…..LOL

            Actually your caveman link isn’t all that far off, nor would be one for the Amish, except I’m a modern version of both. I spend a lot of time in my cave; but, that cave has more communications and computing power than about every home I’ve ever visited.
            I sit here typing this on one of 6 computers, not counting the smart phones and tablets, in a room with more than10 functional 2 way radios. I just participated in a radio net where we had stations from all over Ohio along with stations from CA, TX, WI, and NC checking in tonight. There are also 2 HDTV’s and a satellite downlink. In the living room downstairs, there are another computer and HDTV and SDTV with their own satellite downlink, and numerous 2-way radios & receivers, as well as several tablets and smart phones. Both the cave and various places downstairs, including the Badezimmer, contain cordless phones for the landline.
            If anyone wants to communicate, I probably have a way to do it.

          2. Thor1,

            TOP, sooo….. You have a lot of crayons for cave painting……LOL

            Actually my DD used to have a lot of crayons; but, when she outgrew them, 20 years ago, they were all melted down and added to Paraffin and Stearic acid to make candles. Waste not, Want not.

          3. Zulu 3-6,

            What a waste of perfectly edible crayons. Mmmmmm. The preferred snack of Marines everywhere.

            My youngest stepson was the Marine and by then he was finished with his reserve enlistment; but, never mentioned anything about wanting them. His loss I guess.
            It looks like I’m not the only one checking email today. We’ll be leaving in about an hour to go to the BIL & SIL’s home for a family Thanksgiving. It’s a whopping 2.2 miles west of here; but, still means we have to brave the sub freezing temperatures.
            Hope your holiday is going well and you keep warmer than us, LOL.

  14. Regarding the questions:
    1. No
    2. No
    3. We continue to prep during the winter, Keep my eyes open for anything which would add to our BOL.
    I do a lot of cooking and canning during the winter. Spaghetti sauce, chili, soups, etc. I usually can some butter in January each year.

    Current preps: canned the remaining tomatoes from summer garden, Made brandied cranberry sauce. Replaced windshield wipers on BOV. Had surgery to remove squamous cell cancer from head.

  15. I have not used ashwaganda, but there’s a lot of good information out there to support its use.

    I have some elderberry ordered, can’t wait to make some syrup and start using it, especially since I work with the public. I had a dear friend gift me with some elderberry starts from her plants, but I think I killed them already.

    Winter prepping, well, the vehicles have their ‘winter preps’, blankets, hats gloves, etc. on top of extra food/water/car needs (fluids, etc). We also plasticed the some of the windows before the temps dropped. Bought a new kerosene heater, as our old one was hit. I don’t like the way this one gets filled, but I will get used to it (it has a removable reservoir). DH got all the leaves cleaned up using the lawnmower/bag, and dumped them in the garden, on one of the rare dry days we’ve had.

    A fun thing I stumbled across, that might interest folks who remember Charles Chips…They used to be delivered to your home, in a tin can, like you can get popcorn in these days…Well, they are still around…and a little cheaper at the Vermont Country Store website vs the company website…We ordered several canisters, one will be going to my parents for a Christmas present as a nostalgia thing.

    I got confirmation that a former coworker is returning, so I will not be required to do closing shifts anymore, except for covering vacations, etc. Nice, cuz I don’t have to train. We still need more help, which I will have to train. I am by no means infirm, but the closing shift is a younger person’s job. My shoulder issues, which had resolved, have returned in spades since I’ve had to work that shift again. I will be visiting the chiropractor after Thanksgiving.

    Looking forward to visiting TOP and DW soon, hopefully the weather cooperates! It is nice to be able to meet folks from this group! And Tara, I hope that we can meet your tribe sometime as well!

  16. 3. Winter preps – Got the driveway markers in the ground just after a rain and just before a cold snap that froze the ground. Good thing, because the day after, we had a plow-able snowstorm. If the plow guy doesn’t know where the perimeters are, he tears up the lawn something fierce, and it’s a pain in the patoot to fix it in the spring.

    After a few mishits, hubby got the snowblower running. Got a new cover for the BBQ grill (don’t know where the old one got off to). Got the patio tidied up ahead of the snow. Got a few last-minute perennials planted into the front garden. Donated a few pieces of furniture to a nonprofit project my sister is working on, cleaned some clutter out of the cellar as a result. More snow on the way tomorrow, ughhhhh.

        1. MB, OK cause the definition had to do with sports either hitting or kicking a ball……

          It made me wondered if you were playing tennis in a snow storm or a snowball battle….LOL

        2. MaineBrain,
          Some of us understood the term; but, then I’m familiar with and have played with the hitmiss engines used in the 1890’s and well into the 1900’s. They are a bit odd; but, still mechanical marvels for their time.

          1. OP, 1890’s…….you were 16 then right……LOL

            Is it backfire ? Or after fire? …….LOL

            Mishit is mechanically declined….. LOL

            Chrome muffler bearings and kanuter valves…..LOL

  17. Hi To All,
    I am late to the party this week. I checked early on saturday and post wasn’t up yet… got really busy with chores and life. read this morning and had to go take care of more errands.
    We had a really hard cold snap this week…extra measures to protect the hens and chicks.. continue to work on a new hen house and progressing well at little cost. Found some building supplies used, to haul for free. and will go back tomoro to see what we can obtain ..with what we had already has been enough to get mostly built/roofed… hinges and hasp will be main cost. Picked up fiberglass from another property yesterday and need to pick up more for other building projects…Door and windows and nest boxes still need to be built and has to be lined and floor covering on…. so much progress. Chickens, sex links an RIR’s are still laying as long as they get sunshine…moving them to new graze as often as 36 hour… watching world events and doing best effort to track and put numbers together to make sense of events. Have fed ants again, and have found 3 more mounds that are hungry…more food in progress for those. Had a windfall of about 25 lbs of banana’s and 15 lbs of Apples. result 2 and half gallons of bananas in freezer for banana nut breads…rest.was put with frozen fruit/juices on hand…Apple Butter, Apple-Grape Jelly , strawberry-banana Jam.( not crazy about it, but will use in cake toppings) Tested “Monkey Butter” did not care for it. so not making that. Picked up cocoa powder and Pyure Stevia in amounts for 3 mo. Cut our trips by combining short lists w/other family member and allowing them to pick up short lists. trying to keep buying local, few costs for Christmas will be increased since we now have a Gran- dawg ter. and a new additon to our own family w/ 4 paws.
    Have treated baseboards, studs and other threatened areas with mold treatment 2x.saturated. will saturate one more time and be ready to put in another window and hang new wall board. ..in one more area. Since last post have gotten a peice for granite for kitchen counter…and picked up 3 cabinets from the early 1900 era. in process of stripping them of mixed paints… Getting extra time with brother since he is closer.
    Now for questions.
    I have not yet tried ashwaganda. It is on my list to get. DH is on astralagus/ which is an adaptogen and has been shown in early tests to assist in growth of nerves and has some protective benefit for the myelin sheath which covers the nerves. and Lions Mane which does the same. . Goal is to work to limit and reverse the progresive nerve damage from 1970 exposure..
    I have some elderberry syrup. Have not needed it. Have used Oil of Oregano at first symptoms or first known. exposure of virals. Use ecchinasea same way. w/ first exposure and for 2 days only…..will NOT take a flu or pneumonia shot. why? I Looked at ingredient list. Each person should do the same before they recieve injection. or nasal spray. Aluminum builds up in brain and calcifies the pineal gland.( center of emotions and rational thought) Fluoride does the same thing. I decided, I wish to keep what little rational thought I have. The flu and pneumonia virus are placed in some kind of bacterium, one of the ones used, is same one that is main cause of Lyme. Taking the flu shot IF you already have LYMe will activate Lyme. I have Lyme and do not need a flare.Yes, I know of at least one case this has happened.
    We have each had health challenges this past couple of weeks, was able to treat naturally, persistence does pay off. DH has continued low blood pressure, side effects of medications to raise b/p interfere with fluid balance. I did injure a nerve in my shoulder giving me numbness down arm and into hand…when I increase use of hand, edema returns and numbness decides to as well… so having to rest wrist and shoulder with brace at night, heat and light massage. Unable to use NSAIDS, except in an emergency. I s healing , just slowly. Lyme arthritis s/sx have increased and O of O used to halt joint soreness. Washing dishes helps to some extent….My wonderful DH has allowed me to do all of them, so I have a ready treatment. Gastritis followed by dehydration gave me a whole ‘nother set of signs/symptoms to take care of.LOL.
    I use the late fall and early winter for canning up foods from freezer, for making jellies and jams.. any inside chores, planning the garden, building soil as materials become available…adding to grow beds.
    .On rare winter pretty days am trying to get building materials moved to site and ready for the building of storage, feed room, brooder area, area for garden/yard tools. and a separate tool room- shop for the DH. This includes concrete blocks and fiberglass panels which are already owned, but must be moved.. Getting all the projects possible done with salvage and recycled materials.
    I also use this time for my crafting items.. mostly crochet. I make most of the Christmas gifts we give, dish towels, shaving towels.. dish cloths, youth blankets for children in the family. We have plenty of inside jobs to be doing..
    Y’all take care and stay alert for all of the things going on. Keep on, Keeping on.

    Anyone seen /heard from FIXIT? wondering what he would use to re-vamp old , clean canning lids…in shtf situation. gasket maker.?enamel? thinking outside the box. need help,. my box too large…for experience.

    1. AA,
      I saw Fixit at the Homesteading Conference in Hohenwald in Oct. He said his internet is down at the moment. He didn’t say when he thought it would be back up. I have his phone number and can call him..

      Too funny on the Grand Dawg….

      Yes, things are really ramping up. Nothing is being said about it either. Can only find the info at alternative places.

      Take care and glad to see you’re making progress on you humble abode.

  18. lets see, it’s beeen a few weeks since checking in. harvest is still running slow, from the constant rain and now snows, were getting.
    but i’ve manged to get mine and my mothers chimneys cleaned, and the barn and my places septics pumped out.
    talking to the guy pumping my septic tank out, he asked for tips, for checking for shorts in his electric fence. they have been figting the cattle, trying to get out, for the last 2 weeks. the fence works , just wasn’t super hot. i ended up saying, you know what it’s probably simple and you just need a fresh set of eyes. i have been there also. i drove on down after my tank was pumped and spent 2 hours walking in muck, finding shorts and fixing fence. his tester started testing out at a 1 point something and ended up running a 9.9, on his little tester box. now when a cow gets shocked, you can smell steak grilling.
    i was heading out and says we’re even. no charge for pumping my septic tank.

    little things like that are what build tribe and faith in humanity. when my cows get out, someone knocks on my door, instead of calling the sherriff. someone elses cows get out, you help walk them back to a safe pasture. someone gets stranded on the side of the road, you help them out. sooner or later , this comes arounbd to you also. just be thankful and accept the help, when you receive it. there is so many places, in this country, commmon acts of decentsy , aren’t reciprocating. someplaces, people just look at you like your a green alien with a bad comb over, when you reach out to a stranger.

    have a happy and greatful thanksgiving.

    1. BLACK,
      Sometimes when I post about our neighborhood being full of an almost natural MAG, I wonder if people really understand the dynamic or even believe me. You of course are part of that MAG / Tribe and even at a distance of 5.1 miles (big neighborhood) we communicate and help each other(s) when and where we can. I of course don’t have that comb over since that would take hair, LOL.
      What BLACk describes here is just basic rural living, at least around these parts.
      It’s kind of the embodiment of Karl Marx 1875 slogan: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” with the exception that help is freely given and accepted, by people of good will with no one running the show or forcing anyone to do anything. I think too many politicians can’t, don’t, or won’t understand that most people left to themselves will seek out their better angels, and help those in need when they can help; but, our local community works that way and I am both proud and happy to be a part of it.

      1. Terra,

        Black,
        I would love to be your neighbor! Wonderful that you helped him for 2 hours!

        BLACK is a great hard working guy and I am happy and proud to be one of his neighbors. For the most part, our rural community mostly works that way.
        You would no doubt be welcome here; but, be warned that right now it’s been bitter cold with subfreezing nights and a slight wind making it seem colder.

        1. Ohio Prepper,
          I’m just a little south of you in Kentucky and the temp today ‘feels like’ with the wind chill is 12F. Windy and slow flurries. We missed the big storm that ended up in Chicago and Midwest, so I consider us lucky.

          1. Terra,

            Ohio Prepper,
            I’m just a little south of you in Kentucky and the temp today ‘feels like’ with the wind chill is 12F. Windy and slow flurries. We missed the big storm that ended up in Chicago and Midwest, so I consider us lucky.

            It’s pretty much the same here. We’ve had snow that laid on the grass over the last 4 or 5 days; but, nothing yet that’s required shoveling. It’s 23° here right now with winds easily making the wind chill in the 12-15° range.
            In years past I spent a lot of time in your fair state, mostly running caving trips to Carter County in the north; but, also doing some hiking and camping. We usually cross the Ohio at Portsmouth; but, to be honest, except for the river, you can barely tell the difference in the terrain, all of which reminds me of my roots in the Appalachians of western PA and northern West VA.

  19. Hi all,
    Question….I’ve been out of the loop for awhile on this blog….so…what happened to the old Survival Blog and MD’s items on “What did you do to prep this week”?
    I went to that site, as it’s been a few months for me being slammed with work and other items…and well…it was kinda gone. LOL
    I found this and I recognize some of the posters in the comments…but…well what happened?
    No offense here, I must be really in the dark, but what happened to MD? And is Tara the new MD?

    If this is the new place…then HI all! Hope you’re doing well. I’m still going full steam ahead and we are just finishing up the contract to put in full solar for the house, with batteries AND a hook up for my 15k propane genie…so we can chose to cut the cord from PGE (I’m in North CA and yes the fires here were absolutely BRUTAL!
    While I was not directly affected by the Carr Fire, we did have a fire right in our backyard luckily we had a fire hose and our AG rights to the creek so we could battle it before CalFire got there…(and I know it came from that power pole as the burn marks start from there!)

    We have been doing so much to get as prepared as we can….after all, does anyone else smell it in the wind?

    People claim the economy is booming, but there are companies shutting down, laying off, there is little movement in home sales, lumber sales, copper, commodities etc….And now GE and GM are doing their thing AFTER they did a massive buy back on shares?
    Then we have the issues with Russia and Ukraine and people screaming we need to alienate Saudi Arabia? Do these people not understand that doing so may push them into the arms of China and their goals of a PetroYuan instead of the Petro Dollar? That China is making bold moves all over and my god the ramifications to the global economy are immense?
    I started moving my 401k money out of funds and into interest only money market items. At least a good portion. I may not be ready for retirement, but I’ll be darned if I face another 2008 and lose my backside with this mania going on.

    BTW nice to see some of you! Missed you all!
    Hugs,
    TechQn

    1. TechQn,

      Question….I’ve been out of the loop for awhile on this blog….so…what happened to the old Survival Blog and MD’s items on “What did you do to prep this week”?

      In a nutshell, MD started another site “mdcrrekmore.com” and sold this domain to Dan “Survival” Sullivan. He then decided to drop the WDYDTPTW column so some of us contacted the new owner of this domain, and they started WIDTPTW. We let the gang over there know about this column and while some of us were banned from the other site, many came over here and I think some still read and post both places. I’m in personal contact with many here via email or phone and it turns out that all of us want the same thing, a community in which we can interact and help each other.
      As I understand it, Dan owns the site; but, Tara is kind of the face of the site and lives here in Ohio, about 2 hours south of my location.

      I’m still going full steam ahead and we are just finishing up the contract to put in full solar for the house, with batteries AND a hook up for my 15k propane genie…so we can chose to cut the cord from PGE (I’m in North CA and yes the fires here were absolutely BRUTAL!

      Great on both of your solar and propane fired genset. I play with a little solar; but, have a 16KW auto start generator with about 3000 gallons of propane storage. We also heat the building, domestic hot water, and do our cooking with propane. With your weather, the solar and propane combination sounds great.

      While I was not directly affected by the Carr Fire, we did have a fire right in our backyard luckily we had a fire hose and our AG rights to the creek so we could battle it before CalFire got there…(and I know it came from that power pole as the burn marks start from there!)

      I’ve had discussions with Sirius who lives in your area and although he was not directly affected by the fires, he did see a lot of smoke and everything has a coating of wood ash. Ag rights to the creek? WOW!!! We can do almost anything with the creek running through our property except completely block the flow or dump noxious chemicals into it.

      We have been doing so much to get as prepared as we can….after all, does anyone else smell it in the wind?

      I think most of us think something could be up; but, in my case, preparedness has always been a lifestyle and we just keep living it and handling things day by day.

      People claim the economy is booming, but there are companies shutting down, laying off, there is little movement in home sales, lumber sales, copper, commodities etc….And now GE and GM are doing their thing AFTER they did a massive buy back on shares?

      I think it depends on where you live. Here in Ohio there are still jobs and places like Texas and the Dakotas are still booming. Your state as well as NY, MA, and other high tax states may still be lagging a bit. I’ve been working with stocks in my various IRA’s for 25 years and I’m still making good returns. Unfortunately, the old line “Thunk & Clunk” businesses are showing their age and GE & GM have simply been poorly managed. HAM (Honda of America Manufacturing) is in my area and going strong. In GM’s case, they have been making passenger vehicles in a world that wants trucks and SUV’s. so perhaps they can retool and catch up.

      Then we have the issues with Russia and Ukraine and people screaming we need to alienate Saudi Arabia? Do these people not understand that doing so may push them into the arms of China and their goals of a PetroYuan instead of the Petro Dollar? That China is making bold moves all over and my god the ramifications to the global economy are immense?

      True to a point; but, even with all of the screaming I think S.A. will continue to be an ally, since I think they know the inevitable fate of teaming up with Russia or China. There is also the fact that fracking and horizontal drilling have made the US one of the top producers of petroleum products.

      I started moving my 401k money out of funds and into interest only money market items. At least a good portion. I may not be ready for retirement, but I’ll be darned if I face another 2008 and lose my backside with this mania going on.

      I am retired; but, lost very little in 2008, since I moved most of my 401K monies to my own brokerage account, and managed account, and an annuity both of which pay monthly income along with SS times 2 (DW & me) plus her small pension and some farm income. With all of that we are cash flow positive; but, that’s because we carry no credit card debt, no mortgage, and don’t live an extravagant lifestyle. This situation took planning and about 30 years of our 36½ years together, planning for retirement long before it was here.

      In any case, welcome back. I think you will find that for the most part, we are the same caring, sharing people you knew before.

      1. Thank you OP! And Yes I do “know” that you all are sharing and caring. You all are awesome and I missed you! I had a lot of fun reading and sharing things when it was on the other site! Glad I found you all again. I was a bit lost there for awhile. LOL

        Thank you for explaining what happened too. I recall MD said he was moving sites, but I didn’t think it was a complete shift. Oh well, shows what I know eh? LOL.

        As for your comments on job, state, economy….
        We originally were looking to maybe move out of CA state, but honestly? We have a great piece of land (5 acres) with water access and rights to the creek right in the back yard, 3 phase electrical for hubby’s shop, a well that’s set, propane, all my gardens and a house that’s comfy.
        Plus I love where I live, my neighbors, community….it may be CA, but it’s North CA 😉 which is very different from the rest of CA.
        Also, I have a great job with great benefits that allows me to work from home a good portion of the time. So, I don’t know if I really want to start all over again, just because I’m concerned about state politics.

        We put all we can into paying off the mortgage and any debt we might still have.
        We use any extra money we earn to save up for things like the Solar installation (putting 1/2 down on it)…or put enough aside for emergencies, a fun vacation, or buying PMs when we feel like it…..

        We were just thinking to maybe have another spot in another state to run to…just in case ya know?
        We were thinking Texas, but after seeing this past mid-terms I’m honestly not sure anymore. I don’t think there is really anywhere that is perfectly ‘safe and sane’….

        So in the end?
        We just live the prepared and self sufficient lifestyle as much as we can and hope for the best!
        I taught myself so many things and I am proud I can live pretty well off what I grow…along with what I can, dehydrate and have saved and set aside. (we did a test run for 1 month with no store access) It’s only been about 4 years we’ve been doing this, but we’ve accomplished so much!
        I may not be at levels you all are at, but I’m working on it!

        Thanks for the reply and for letting me know you all are still around! I look forward to hearing from you all weekly.
        Cheers!

        1. TechQn,

          Thank you for explaining what happened too. I recall MD said he was moving sites, but I didn’t think it was a complete shift. Oh well, shows what I know eh? LOL.

          We have had the discussion about MD creating the new domain and worrying about the header, etc. I don’t know about his mindset; but, at least for a time, he seemed to forget that this is a community. I don’t know how things are going at his new domain since I was one of those banned there, and haven’t gone back; but, I wish him well, since he did the original work to get this community together. As for showing what you know, we only know what we know, and will of course all know more by participating when asking and answering questions.

          As for your comments on job, state, economy….
          We originally were looking to maybe move out of CA state, but honestly? We have a great piece of land (5 acres) with water access and rights to the creek right in the back yard, 3 phase electrical for hubby’s shop, a well that’s set, propane, all my gardens and a house that’s comfy.

          We’re in the same condition, paid off and settled into a place we like and have worked 30+ years making into what we want. As a retired engineer I was also able to telecommute for some of my work and saving that driving, plus the more flexible hours can be nice. As I get older, I like the cold less than I did; but, moving to some place like Florida is simply too much effort at my current age, so we keep the propane filled, the wood cut, and the boots, coats, and sweaters ready at hand, and do OK.

          We put all we can into paying off the mortgage and any debt we might still have.
          We use any extra money we earn to save up for things like the Solar installation (putting 1/2 down on it)…or put enough aside for emergencies, a fun vacation, or buying PMs when we feel like it…..

          That sounds a lot like us also. If you know the difference between needs and wants and keep your debt reasonable, you can make real progress. We have 8 acres with a large house, two barns, and some other outbuildings, where we can keep livestock. A creek runs along the western edge and we have a great well. We have propane storage for about 3000 gallons on site; but, those tanks were purchased as we could save and afford them over a 17 year time frame. This old house now has a new furnace, a second new roof, all new windows and full foam insulation, also purchased with cash, a little at a time over nearly 30 years. We hope to add another small outbuilding, finish the summer kitchen, and replace most of the flooring next year, so with patience and staying put on a place you like, you can just chip away at it and get where you want / need to be. We paid cash for our whole house generator, transfer switch, and installation; but, that had been planned for exactly 30 years and took that long to be in the right condition to go for it, with other mitigation steps like UPS, Coleman and Aladdin lanterns and battery powered lighting in the interim. You can accomplish nearly anything with baby steps and time.

          We were just thinking to maybe have another spot in another state to run to…just in case ya know?
          We were thinking Texas, but after seeing this past mid-terms I’m honestly not sure anymore. I don’t think there is really anywhere that is perfectly ‘safe and sane”

          I have friends in Texas that place a lot of blame on California, with people who move there for the jobs & low taxes; but, then stupidly vote the place to be more like where they came from.
          Ohio, in general is actually a pretty safe & sane place to live; but, safety is in the eye of the beholder. In my location we don’t get floods, wildfires, or earthquakes; but, can get weather events like blizzards or tornados and some locations along our river systems can see flooding.

          I may not be at levels you all are at, but I’m working on it!

          Short of that lottery win or that inheritance from your rich uncle (I don’t have one either, LOL), that’s all we can do and over time be sure to look back and see your progress, since the journey ahead never really ends.

          Thanks for the reply and for letting me know you all are still around! I look forward to hearing from you all weekly.

          You are quite welcome. Lord willing and the Internet stays up (or the crrek don’t rise), we’ll see you here.

          1. “I have friends in Texas that place a lot of blame on California, with people who move there for the jobs & low taxes; but, then stupidly vote the place to be more like where they came from”..

            Yeah I was born there….had older family till they passed away….still have friends there who are the ones encouraging me to leave…but I already moved once, from SoCal back in 2001 to where I am now. So..I hate the feeling of being run out of where I live ya know?
            I had to leave Southern CA…it was insane even back then. I needed air, room to breathe and live. I would want the same in Tx…but so much of what I can afford is either flat, arid, an/or too too far away. LOL
            And no I don’t have a rich uncle, just a good job, save a lot and have put a good portion into my home. Which if I run, will most likely not get it back. 🙁

            Oh well, Cest La Vie!
            I’m here and barring any misfortune, will stay put for the long run.
            Cheers!

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