What I Did to Prep This Week

What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 51: June 30th – July 6th 2019

jewelweed leaves in mason jars

Hey Pack! We finally had a week without storms on our survival retreat. It still rained some in the evenings, which caused a big waste of hay on some area farms that had baled. I am so concerned about the availability and price this year.

But we were also super productive. The only prepping purchases we made this week were parts for the Massey Ferguson tractor and the Polaris Ranger. Since neither were working as they should and they are valuable SHTF equipment, it was money well spent.

We spent most of the week working in our gardens and apothecary patch, and foraging. Well, the foraging of course, led to a lot of time in the kitchen making salves, tinctures, and wound washes, and dehydrating.

This week I made 20 containers of jewelweed and plantain salve. I kept a couple for use here, on our prepper retreat, while the others are being given to a combination of tribe members and not really preppers but self-reliant country folks friends.

jewelweed and plantain salve containers

My hope is (as I stated here before when referencing the old vacation Bible school prompt) to coax others to come with you the next night of fun classes, that sharing the bounty of our land with others will enlighten them about the importance of survival homesteading.

Our youngest grandkiddos learned how to find and use the jewelweed plant this week as part of their homesteading homeschool education. They are really going to love the new plant they learned to identify when its flowers come on, and they get to them exploding seed “bombs.” All the tribe kiddos love the “popper plants”.

I also made some jewelweed tincture to use as wound washes. The kids helped make them, tearing up the leaves into little bits got them really involved in the process. I used the experience to teach them about measuring and following direction, as well. School can be such a great adventure when done properly.

jewelweed leaves in mason jars

The grandkiddos and I also gathered plantain to make a different kind of salve as well as some tinctures. The first thing they asked when I was teaching the 3 and 4 year olds how to identify broadleaf plantain was if you could eat it. How many kids in our modern world would even think to ask that question? Outside of homesteading and prepper kids, I figure darn few.

We discovered some more wild grapes and a few shellbark hickory trees on our land. I thought we only had shagbark hickory, so it was a pleasant surprise. The “king nuts” on the shellbark are not only larger, but far tastier.

Our black raspberries are coming on nicely, so a lot of berry picking was on the agenda this week. The kiddos kept stealing them back out of our bag when I wasn’t looking, so I am not sure how many we actually found thanks to the cute little munchers.

black raspberries
black raspberry bush

I learned about cloudberries when writing an article for New Life On The Homestead this week. I had never heard about them before and am very intrigued. In the United States they only grow in a couple places, Alaska, Montana, and Washington state, if I am recalling correctly.

If any pack members are familiar with cloudberries, please share what they taste like in our comments section, I am very curious. It is hard to believe each tiny berry contains as much vitamin C as an orange.

Rose hips are about to be my gardening fail for the year. They just refuse to grow. My dwarf moringa trees are hanging on, for now. They got too spindly right before moving them outdoors.

Dampness is really hard on them and with all of this rain, I figure they might be a survival apothecary failure as well. I am going to order more seeds and give it another shot since we are hopefully past the rain that has plagued us for what feels like two years straight now.

Oh, and a lot of fun target practice occurred on our shooting range. Non-preppers sure are missing out on all of the joy that living a self-reliant lifestyle brings!

This Week’s Questions

  1. Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how?
  2. Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain?
  3. How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures?
  4. What did you do to prep this week?

Tara Dodrill

About Tara Dodrill

Tara Dodrill is a homesteading and survival journalist and author. She lives on a small ranch with her family in Appalachia. She has been both a host and frequent guest on preparedness radio shows. In addition to the publication of her first book, 'Power Grid Down: How to Prepare, Survive, and Thrive after the Lights go Out', Dodrill also travels to offer prepping tips and hands-on training and survival camps and expos.
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109 thoughts on “What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 51: June 30th – July 6th 2019

  1. Hi Everyone,

    Hope you all had a great Independence Day. I stayed home and made eggplant parmesan for the first time ever. I used some fiery roasted tomatoes, and it turned out too hot for me to eat… I think I will stick to eating that at Olive Garden…

    Lots of rain here again… and oppressively hot and humid when it’s not raining. More rain in the forecast by the time the weekend is over. My garden was needing it, so glad to have it.

    Went to the Amish produce market and I’ve canned 17 quarts of green beans, and have 2- 5 gallon buckets of pickles going on their 5th day of the 10 day process for making sweet pickles. They are so good. Gave away my last jar, and haven’t made them for a couple of years, so it’s time to restock. Also getting ready to make some refrigerator pickles today.

    No prep purchases for the week except ordered a bushel of peaches from the bulknaturalfoods.com folks, at TN coop, that will be delivered on Wednesday.

    Did make a sale on e-bay and got it shipped out. Still working on getting rid of stuff.

    Tara’s Questions:

    Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how? No. from what I have read, jewelweed grows near creeks. I don’t have a creek nearby, but would like to at least know what it looks like in real life, so will need to find some.

    Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain? I have plantain, both narrow leaf and broad leaf. I will be making some salve later on.

    How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures? Garden is doing well.

    Prayers for the pack, unspoken requests, for The President and for America.

    Have a great week everyone.

    1. Almost There,

      I stayed home and made eggplant parmesan for the first time ever. I used some fiery roasted tomatoes, and it turned out too hot for me to eat… I think I will stick to eating that at Olive Garden

      I make all kinds of parmesan dishes; but, prefer veal and eggplant, when I can get either one. We don’t use anything hot in most of our cooking, since the DW can’t stand even the mildest of hot spices.

      Lots of rain here again… and oppressively hot and humid when it’s not raining. More rain in the forecast by the time the weekend is over. My garden was needing it, so glad to have it.

      Our rain has slacked off enough to get the garden mostly in; but, oppressive heat a humidity is also with us.
      Our EMA group worked the parade on the 4th and it was perfect. High 70°’s overcast with slight breezes and no rain.
      I can’t believe that you and I beat some others for their posts. LOL.

      1. You and AT must have gotten up with the chickens! I slep in for a change. Heat and humidity very oppressive down this way as well.

        1. Jean,

          Out in the garden this morning at 7, pulling weeds, collecting the day’s bounty…. Done by 8:30, too hot. Cooling off and getting ready to work again on those dang refrigerator pickles… I don’t think I will ever be done with them. Thanks to someone on here, either Thor1 or JP, I had bought a salad shooter a while back, which saved the day with slicing those cucumbers… OMGOSH!! MUCH better than the mandolin I was using… Now for the yellow squash and onions… Hoping to be done in a few hours, so I can get to working on kitchen organizing… Staying inside. More rain today, and it is HOT and HUMID out there. Stay cool….

        2. Jean,

          You and AT must have gotten up with the chickens! I slep in for a change.

          When I’m up this early it normally means that I am still up. I was always a night owl; but, now in retirement, unless I have an appointment or meeting, I don’t keep what normal humans would consider a schedule. I eat when I’m hungry & sleep when I’m tired; but, when I’m wide awake @ Oh Dark Thirty, I hit the computers or radios until I’m tired.

          Heat and humidity very oppressive down this way as well.

          That seems to be everywhere except perhaps Minnesota.
          We went from cold, to swamp, to hot & humid; but, if it were any other way, what would we have to complain about?

          1. I had to quit working because I could not sleep at night. I couldn’t just get a night job because I had fought it for so long my body shut down. Eleven years later I do what you do, I sit at my computer reading or surfing until I feel sleepy. Even then I just feel bad if I am only sleeping days so I can’t bring myself to work under the garage with the lights on.

            That and my wife works overnight shifts as a nurse so I often “help” her sleep during the day.

    2. Almost There, I wrote a whole article about identifying jewelweed and its uses for Dan’s other website, Survival Sullivan, I am not sure if it is published yet, but should offer you some great guidance and finding it. Our largest patches grow on the third tier of our property, well above the creek and along the edge of the woods, same type of location as our best berry patches.

  2. This weeks questions: No close foraging and no garden.

    As for what we did: It was a busy week, for a holiday.

    Safeway had a sale with an extra 10% off for military people on the last weekend in June. DW got $180 in groceries for $79, and I got a new 4-burner Char-Broil grill (w/side burner and a full 20 lb. tank) that should have been $300 (MSRP) for $121 (assembled). A timely purchase; as we took the old grill out and gave it away (it still worked), I found many parts were rusted to the point they crumbled when touched.

    DW’s new handgun has its basic “gear” now; spare mags, mag pouch, holster, and TFO sights. Ready for a little trigger time!

    Murdoc’s (our local ranch & feed store) is doing its thrice annual 15% off for military people. Time to pick up some planned-for accessories!

    I have issues with my feet (diabetes +), so I wear Skechers Sport, 9.5 4E. The last time I was able to find my size on sale, they were closing the JC Penney and they were $45/pr. Now I can get them from Amazon @ $38/pr. Now I can afford to change them out every 6 months like I’m supposed to.

    Installed TruGlo Tritium/Fiber-Optic (TFO) sights on 3 Glocks. These are the best sights I have ever used, and I’ve used them for years! Not hard to do (with the right tools!)

    Refurbishment: Took the lid off the storage compartment on the front of my camp trailer. At 20 years old, it finally was so cracked around the locks that it needed replacing. Since no replacement parts are available a local metal working shop is going to build me some supports out of aluminum.

    The truck went in to the shop for the AC on Wednesday. Friday, I got the word that the AC compressor ceased and took out some other stuff with the shrapnel. So, the truck is down until EOM.

    Went out Friday to maybe shoot and look at a replacement van. Stopped at a shooting school and got their information and prices; looks like they will be getting some business from us. Found myself a Stoeger Uplander 410 S/S (used very little/still extremely tight). Mingled with the tourists at some of the “hot spots” out in rural Montana. Didn’t get any shooting done nor found any vans (don’t it figure). And we found that the Chawennie likes dill pickels (strange dog).

    Finally got some trigger-time on Saturday. Boy do we need more practice! At least we had no failures with the Aluminum case Federal ammo I bought for practice. The Glocks seem to take to it well.

    Received: 2.5-gal fuel cans; gas grill; dual mag pouch for G43x/48; AR mags; Sketchers shoes; 2” gel-foam pad for bed; Glock folding 4-in-1 tool; EDC vest; creamy wheat cereal; shotgun & ammo; Tarp clamps: 10 (clear) & 20 (black);

    1. JP,
      My EDC vests are a 5.11 tactical, one in heavy canvass for winter and another for summer wear. Both are otherwise identical.
      What EDC vest did you get?
      I’m always looking for other kit, especially when used and recommended by others whose judgment I trust.

    2. Sounds like you got a lot done this week. I am very interested in the TruGlo Fiber optic sights. Going to check that out today. I trust your judgement.
      I was listening to talk radio yesterday and a doctor was talking about this CBD oil that is now available in my area. What struck me was they are seeing great strides with it helping diabetic patients who lose feeling in their feet and hands. However, they did caution that lots of manufacturers are providing this version. The company doing the show has 4 locations in the US and only sells via phone orders. They want to speak to each person individually so they can best fit product to each person. Note: CBD does not contain TCH (I think that’s an active ingredient in weed, I don’t use it,so not even sure of the initialsreally), but wanted to clarify that if you use it, no cravings to listen to punk rock or eat Dorito’s! I’m gonna recommend it to a friend who has problems with her feet. Just passing along for what it’s worth.

  3. I did my low-carb grocery shopping this week. Added a little to my stash as usual. Did some weekly cooking.

    Bought some more AA and AAA rechargeable batteries along with another USB powered charger and plastic storage cases. Got all the batteries charged and ready to rock.

    Cleaned and lubed my EDC pistol and mags (well, didn’t lube the mags). Also lubed my M&P-15 and 870. Wiped everything down with a Marine Tuf-Cloth.

    Went through my EDC stuff. Everything was in good shape, except the Morakniv blade needed a fresh wipe down with a Tuf-Cloth. No corrosion, just due for a PM wipe-down.

    It’s been hotter than hades here this past week. The highest temp I saw at the weather station nearest me was 106F. Other stations nearby showed 114F or more. Poor Europe. I don’t know how they handle these kinds of temps. Wait; I do know. They just roll over and die from hyperthermia. I know they don’t have household A/C systems like we tend to have, but still, lots of Americans do not have A/C, including many Floridians. Run a fan and drink lots of water. That’s what I did when I didn’t have A/C in a Florida summer. We are getting some rain almost everyday in the late afternoon or evening. A typical Florida summer rain pattern.

    Still no tropical storm system activity so far. Fine with me.

    Had granddaughter three days this week. Would have been four days, but #1 daughter was sick on Friday and wanted to keep her. She is such a joy to me. We went out on Tuesday and collected a big mess of sticks for my rocket stove supply. A propane camping stove is my primary SHTF with no electricity cooking device, but the rocket stove is next, and an Esbit stove the tertiary. She saved me from having to bend over too much. She watched me crack a stick in two using my knee and she tried it. Not as much fun when you’re wearing shorts (and I wasn’t).

    She is really making serious progress with her potty training. Not every kid progresses the same way or at the same age. Her mom was totally out of diapers at 15-months. But, the light bulb has finally come on with granddaughter and she’s doing well. Only one “accident” all week, including at her house. Of course, it happened at mine. 😊 She still wears diapers during naps and at night. Most of the time she stays dry during naps. Her reading ability is also progressing very well. She not only knows the alphabet and letter sounds but has many punctuation marks down pat too. We’re working on sounding out words now.

    Tara’s questions:

    1. Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how? Nope, sure don’t.

    2. Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain? No. I do like to eat the banana type of plantain though.

    3. How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures? Do not have any.

    4. What did you do to prep this week? See above.

    1. Zulu 3-6,

      Bought some more AA and AAA rechargeable batteries along with another USB powered charger and plastic storage cases. Got all the batteries charged and ready to rock.

      Wiped everything down with a Marine Tuf-Cloth.

      except the Morakniv blade needed a fresh wipe down with a Tuf-Cloth. No corrosion, just due for a PM wipe-down.

      You mentioned Marine Tuf-Cloth last week and twice this week. I looked it up; but, could you fill us in?

      It’s been hotter than hades here this past week. The highest temp I saw at the weather station nearest me was 106F. Other stations nearby showed 114F or more. Poor Europe. I don’t know how they handle these kinds of temps. Wait; I do know. They just roll over and die from hyperthermia. I know they don’t have household A/C systems like we tend to have, but still, lots of Americans do not have A/C, including many Floridians.

      Another thing about the poor Europeans is that they often smell horribly of B.O. and I think there’s a correlation there somewhere.
      We have no central air and have gone through a few window units over the years; but, find the little portables my DW calls R2D2 work rather well and can be stowed out of the way when not needed. I have a friend who installs the ventless units and can get me one for not much over his cost, so we are looking into one of those.

      She not only knows the alphabet and letter sounds but has many punctuation marks down pat too. We’re working on sounding out words now.

      What are you thinking? At this rate she’ll be able to spell, enunciate, punctuate and have proper grammar and verb tense before you know it, at which point many adults may not be able to understand her. LOL

      1. TOP,

        Marine Tuf-Cloth is a heavy duty version of the company’s Tuf-Cloth. It is a liquid anti-corrosive and when dry, acts as a light lubricant. I’ve used them for years, since at least the 1990s.

        Sentry Products is the manufacturer. Navy SEALS have used the Marine Tuf-Cloth version as it is more resistant to salt-water corrosion.

        I use it in lieu of silicone cloths or similar products. It does go on wet, but dries fairly quickly. You can get it in spray bottle form as well as saturated cloths. I use the spray bottles to keep my cloths wet. They don’t need to be dripping wet.

        1. Zulu 3-6:

          We talked about Tuf-Cloth before. SInce then I found that I have both the liquid and the cloth in my “collection” of stuff. (Without a dedicated place to “work” on guns, lots of stuff get’s “put away” and I forget everything I have.) The cloth is in my gunshow tool box.

          TOP: the cloth I have came in a small jar (2″ dia x 2″ deep). Very handy for carrying around.

  4. I hope everyone had a great Independence Day, and thank you to all of the veterans who have and are defending our freedom.
    1. Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how? No, I don’t. DIL and I are starting to learn about local plants that we can use for home remedies. We’re excited about this new learning adventure.
    2. Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain? Nope
    3. How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures? The corn is a failure. My green beans look bad, but are starting to produce.
    4. What did you do to prep this week?

    This week:

    *Animals:
    -Successfully moved three pullets to a coop with other chickens.
    -Cleaned all three coops.
    -DH cleaned out the barn for me. That’s true love.

    *Garden:
    -Planted the corn…again…for the third time. I’m beginning to wonder if there’s something wrong with the seeds I ordered. They’re not heirloom, but it’s our favorite corn.
    -Harvesting from the garden. Cucumbers, zucchini, yellow squash, and green beans are doing well. I’m giving most of the cucumbers away to a friend since I’m too busy to can pickles now.
    -Pickled beets and canned slaw. The slaw was a recipe that someone on Facebook recommended. I’m skeptical, but we’ll see how it is.

    *Added a little to the stockpile: box of screws, straw, vinegar, hygiene items,

    *Miscellaneous:
    -Added a six foot shelf to the pantry and organized a little. It was actually pretty orderly, but the new shelf makes it easier to tell adult kids where to get things for me when they’re helping with Sunday dinner.
    -The upstairs is clean and organized! Successfully checked off one item from my summer to-do list!
    -I’ve been going to Salvation Army frequently, rummage sales, and tag sales. I’ve come home with some great finds. I’ve added a lot of pans that DIL and I will use for soapmaking, another water bath canner, miscellaneous kitchen items, and a great cookbook. The cookbook is a foraging cookbook!

    *Skills:
    -Learning to do small repairs that DH usually does. (He’s willing to do them. I just want to learn.)

    Be prepared. Stay safe. He’s in charge.

    1. Good for you and DIL! Feel free to email me anytime if I can be of some help. As I noted to AT above, I have written about foraging and home remedies to make for Dan’s Survival Sullivan website and on his New Life On A Homestead website also, some great step by step vid on both how to identify and use published there on wonderful wild weeds that grow in Ohio and various herbs.

  5. Prayers for #2 daughter as her husky puppy accidentally put her tooth in her eye while they were playing.
    The latest report says she now has 80% vision in that eye so it is improving.

    Puppy did well during the 4th with the fireworks. I thew a pack of firecrackers in the backyard and puppy ran at them not away so we kept him in the house for the bigger stuff. He wasn’t happy…. He found another intruder iñ the backyard, dd you ever see a cat run up a tree? LOL

    Garden

    Picked a couple of buckets full of Roma tomatoes.
    Picked several packs of cherry tomatoes.
    Picked several beef steak tomatoes.
    Picked pickling cucumbers.
    Picked a bunch of habenaro peppers.

    Freeze dryer

    Freeze dried 2 trays of sliced bananas.
    Freeze dried 2 trays of Fuji apples.

    Canned

    2 QTS of pickles
    5 pints of salsa.
    4 pints of habenaro peppers.

    Ground

    Cayenne pepper.

    Made

    Home made pico de gallo

    Vehicles
    Bought new battery for #2 Son’s car

    Cleaned
    Air filters for ac.

    Gym
    Hit the heavy bag.
    Worked out curls, pushups, pull ups, ab machine.
    Walked 2 miles wearing plate carrier.
    Walked puppy.

    Tara’s questions:
    1.Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how?
    2.Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain?
    3.How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures?

    1. No not yet.

    http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/fieldbio/medicinal_plants/pages/Jewelweed.htm

    2. No not yet, but there is some in the backyard.

    https://www.livescience.com/15322-healthiest-backyard-weeds.html

    Thor’s questions:

    1. Do you think the Iranian problem will grow after the Royal Marines confiscated one of their oil tankers?

    2. Do you think the recent building explosions are accidents or attacks?

    3. If a Democrat is elected in 2020, do you think they will try to disarm the American people?

    1. Thor1,

      Ouch! Hope your #2 daughter recovers 100%.

      Thor’s questions:

      1. Do you think the Iranian problem will grow after the Royal Marines confiscated one of their oil tankers? Hard to say. Iran got caught red-handed violating economic sanctions but they like to pretend they are always a victim. The only way they can get that tanker back is to convince the UK to let it go (and the US will probably have to agree). Iran has no capability to recapture it by force, and even if they try, they will have quite the scrap on their hands with the Royal Marines. If Boris Johnston becomes PM of the UK, Iran may be out of luck. I think they can have the tanker back if they return all of the cash and uranium Obama and HRC gave them. However, the tanker has to return to Iran, not go to Syria as planned.

      2. Do you think the recent building explosions are accidents or attacks? I think they are accidents.

      3. If a Democrat is elected in 2020, do you think they will try to disarm the American people? Absolutely they will try, as soon as possible.

        1. Ha Thor….. Just getting it…. It takes me a while… Lol It’s been a looonnnggg week already. Up until 12am Sunday nite, and then until 1am working on these pickles…. having to get up at 4am for work… Butt dragging.. Lol

    2. Thor1,
      1. Do you think the Iranian problem will grow after the Royal Marines confiscated one of their oil tankers?
      Perhaps; but, it will grow anyway until we squish them like the little bug they are, most likely with help from many others in the region along with much of Europe.
      2. Do you think the recent building explosions are accidents or attacks?
      I they were accidents. We live in a complex world and the more complex it gets, the more likely the probability that something can fail. For instance West Virginia coal billionaire and philanthropist Chris Cline died in a helicopter crash near the Bahamas the day before his 62nd birthday. No conspiracy, just something in a complex system that had a catastrophic failure.
      3. If a Democrat is elected in 2020, do you think they will try to disarm the American people?
      Of course, since they haven’t stopped since 1968, and I suspect that civil disobedience will continue, since we outnumber and out gun them.

      BTW, the Field Biology Electronic Field Guides is a neat site. Hanks for listing it. http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/fieldbio

  6. Hi Tara & all,
    Most of my local farmers are plunging through it and getting in some late plantings; but, like you, I suspect hay may be in short supply or extra expensive this summer.

    … while the others are being given to a combination of tribe members and not really preppers but self-reliant country folks friends.

    I think this pretty much describes nearly all of my neighbors, since the only real difference between real rural people and preppers is the label.

    Our black raspberries are coming on nicely, so a lot of berry picking was on the agenda this week. The kiddos kept stealing them back out of our bag when I wasn’t looking, so I am not sure how many we actually found

    Ours are doing OK in some places and not so good in others, due I think to the wet spring. And BTW, you don’t need little ones to eat the harvest before it’s in the house. I am guilty as well. LOL

    Rose hips are about to be my gardening fail for the year. They just refuse to grow.

    We have a good supply of rose hips; but, we don’t cultivate them. I suspect if you forage the area around you, you will find whole patches of MultiFlora Roses, often called briar patches, since they will seemingly reach out and snag you. While deer hunting in your county and a few in the surrounding areas, we often turned up large patches in the middle of wooded acreage, generally when chasing a deer that runs through them with impunity.

    Oh, and a lot of fun target practice occurred on our shooting range. Non-preppers sure are missing out on all of the joy that living a self-reliant lifestyle brings!

    I agree, and although many can still go to the range and shoot, few can step out the back door and target practice or in some cases hunt deer or small game as we can.

    But now for: Tara’s Questions
    1. Do you forage and use jewelweed in home remedies? If so, how?
    I had to look up jewelweed and found it is also known as Impatiens. We do have Impatiens here; but, haven’t really done anything medicinal with them. My out of the mainstream prepping skills lean more towards self defense, wilderness and urban survival and communications and not so much with home / natural remedies.
    2. Do you forage and use broadleaf plantain?
    We use as a salad green on occasion as well as clover & dandelions.
    3. How are your gardens and apothecary patches growing – great successes or failures?
    No apothecary; but, we finally have most of the potted plants into the garden and will be sorting seeds and planting the short maturity varieties in the next few days.
    4. What did you do to prep this week?
    As always, see below.

    TOP’s question
    1. With the recent Independence Day celebrations, we’re seeing a lot of fireworks, both physical and political and hearing a lot of patriotic music, such as Lee Greenwoods God Bless the USA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E).
    If you could name two other songs that represent the spirit, optimism, and the role the United States has played in the world, what would they be?
    2. The Statue of Liberty on Ellis Island has a plaque with an inscription that states:
    ”Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
    What is the true meaning of these words. Hint, it’s obvious if you know the history of the era.

    This week we acquired and did the following.
    1. Finally started getting potted plants into the garden. 28 Red cabbages, 60 Candy Onions with more yet to plant, and 8 Better Boy and 18 Roma tomatoes. We’ve also had a small amount of rain to soak them in.
    2. Dug out our old ”Earthway Precision Garden Seeder” in preparation for seed planting in the garden. We purchase this more than 40 years ago and had almost forgotten about it. Here’s a video of its operations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZZ0XXEM4To
    3. Tilled and planted our new rhubarb patch that will hopefully not be dug up by the raccoons this time. Asparagus will be next.
    4. Purchased a lightly used MFJ-842 dual needle VHF / UHF SWR Power meter covering 140-525 MHz @ 15 or 150 Watts. This is a duplicate of one I already have for setting up another full time radio.
    5. Got the old dead 55” Sceptre HDTV packed up and the new 50” Roku smart TV set up and running. Our backup is a 28” Emerson LCD that was the first HDTV we purchased some 20 years ago. It will be set aside for emergencies once again.
    6. During a thunderstorm, a power outage began on 07/02/2019 @ 17:19 and lasted about 3 hours. The generator started and other than a few chirps from the UPS units, and a few lights flickering, we barely noticed.
    7. Received two $50.00 gift cards for Home Depot (from credit card points) with no particular expenditure in mind; but, no doubt useful for some upcoming project.
    8. Worked with EMA for the July 4th Independence Day parade where many vehicles and floats toss candy to the sidelines along the route. We do some traffic control; but, mostly crowd control, keeping the often over exuberant kids from running into the streets for that stray piece of candy.
    9. At TSC: a gallon of Gordon’s horse & pony spray, four 5.5 ft3 bales of wood shavings (for horse bedding), remote thermometer for the one that died in the greenhouse all with a 15% discount coupon.
    10. At Aldi’s: 4 packages of blueberry muffins (16 total)
    11. Wal-Mart: 30 liter backpack, 36 30 inch bamboo skewers. We’ve been using these to stake plants in the garden. In addition 1 gallon each of 2% and LACTAID® milk, 2 containers of Cozy Shack tapioca pudding.
    12. Operated as co-net control for the 2019 Ohio MS Bike challenge. Ham operators ride in the SAG (Support & Gear) and First Aid Vehicles and are stationed at the beginning and end points as well as rest stops along the route. The riders can select course loops of 30, 55, 80, and 100 miles. The other NCS operator and I were at fixed locations where we had the ability to communicate with all of the vehicles and some of the riders operating radios on their bikes. This year brought a total of 166 cyclists to the ride.
    13. Here are my answers to my question #1 above Neil Diamond’s America (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTSLRbm8L9E) and Aaron Tippin’s “I Got It Honest” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3xkSTuRD7M)
    There are no wrong answers; but, it will be good to see the other selections.

      1. JP,

        The other “American” song that jumps out at me is “The Angry American” by Tobie Keith.

        That’s exactly what I’m looking for. I’m compiling a list and I’m sure there are many I just don’t recall; but, your suggestion for some reason made me recall Darryl Worley’s “Have You Forgotten?”

      2. JP,

        The other “American” song that jumps out at me is “The Angry American” by Tobie Keith.

        I actually already had that one in my list under the alternate name:
        ”Courtesy Of The Red, White And Blue”
        It seems even many of our music tastes have something in common.

        1. Jean,

          I haven’t heard anyone mention and old Simon & Garfunkle song called, America.

          Good catch. I can still play and sing that one.
          “Let us be lovers, we’ll marry our fortunes together”
          Being originally from western PA and dating a girl named Cathy at the time.
          ”Cathy, I said as we boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburgh”
          Actually meant something to me.

  7. UGH! I’m STILL canning jalapeños, plus I pureed and canned a batch of bananas. I won’t be planting any peppers next year, that’s for sure. Need to do an inventory of all home-canned items before planting the fall garden.
    I stocked up on food for the doggies this week. I’ve also been thinning out “stuff” around here to take up to the BOL. No need to buy kitchen stuff when there’s a plenty here I can take. Did a little reading about earthquake preparedness since my grandson just moved to Southern California of all places. He’s coming here for a 10-day visit on Thursday and we’ll be having some conversations about it, I’m sure. He’s only 12 years old, but very intelligent…..I won’t try to scare him, but will use the quakes as an education opportunity. He’s only been in the state for a month and has already had TWO earthquakes rattle his bones!
    Stocked up on more pint canning jars. I have a fetish for those things! LOL

  8. So the Webley Revolver Turned out to be in Enfield revolver. It’s in great shape but it’s double action only. Not interested. However while at my buddy shop, I did come across a Czechoslovakian CZ-52 pistol. 7.62 x 25 caliber. It comes with two spare magazines and a flat poster. Turned out to be in Enfield revolver. It’s in great shape but it’s double action only. Not interested. However while at my buddy shop, I did come across a Czechoslovakian CZ-52 pistol. 7.62 x 25 caliber. It comes with two spare magazines and a flap holster. He also has an ample quantity of that ammunition. I’ll be buying that later today. Just because it’s cool.

    Got some yardwork done and tended to our fencing. Organized more stuff. I will be getting rid of the Chevy classic that I’ve had in the driveway for three years. It has 412,000 miles on it. I did all but the first 10,000. Alas, it’s destined to be a parts car at my friends junkyard. I simply don’t have the room anymore.

    I picked up some in-line spinner baits. These have little rubber minnows on them. They are made by Felmlee Lures. These in particular seem to work great for me in freshwater on rainy days. Kind of odd but whatever works right? I picked up some other fishing tackle and a new Rapala fillet knife.

    To our hosts questions, I don’t forage but I am capable of doing so. My entire front lawn seems to be made up of plantains LOL. Our gardens are almost strictly ornamental but we do have several species of flowers picked that will attract honey bees and hummingbirds. I will be working on A raised bed garden next year perhaps. That is, if we don’t make that move to Tennessee first.

    God bless and have a great week.

    1. Overwatch:

      when buying surplus ammo for the 7.62×25 make sure you get pistol ammo. The same round was loaded for the submachine gun, and I’m told it a little too hot for the pistol, lng term.

      1. JP,

        when buying surplus ammo for the 7.62×25 make sure you get pistol ammo. The same round was loaded for the submachine gun, and I’m told it a little too hot for the pistol, lng term.

        I ran into that same thing with some inexpensive Egyptian manufactured 9×19 purchased more than 20 years ago, that would misfire (as in no fire) in my Ruger P89 & P95; but, would fire if struck a 2nd or 3rd time.
        It turned out to be very hard primers and hot loads for subguns. I ran a few magazines through a friend’s SP5 with no failures. That was 1100 rounds for something like $60.00 30 years ago. I still have north of 800 rounds that work fine in my CZ Scorpion EVO 3 carbine so I’m glad I purchased and kept them. Maybe I am a hoarder. LOL

      2. JP,

        You are correct, sir. But this pistol is the exception to that rule. Due to the fact that it’s roller locked, it can handle the subgun ammo. Tokarev pistols can not handle it at all. When you fire subgun ammo out of the CZ-52, it kicks like hell. Part of that is the grip angle, part is due to its average 1300 fps muzzle velocity. 95 grain ball will penetrate some serious media. Thank you for looking out for me though. We really are a community of good friends here and I love “hearing” from you every week.
        Btw, the ammunition I got is vintage 1953 on 10 round stripper clips. My dealer friend used to fire it from a PPSH-41. He’s got some amazing stuff. We ain’t all sissy liberals here, brother. Hell, we usually have the same tastes in guns!! Lol!!

        1. Overwatch:

          Yep, I like to think that’s why we are here. We comment, express our opinion, but don’t argue. I’ve been around enough of the type of people that WORK at finding the negative.

          (Kind of like the one our host was just talking about. What were they offering that was positive and helpful.)

          1. You must be referring to the article about the dweeb liberals being offended. We try to be positive and helpful but we don’t need to kowtow to people who are easily offended.

    2. Overwatch,
      Is 7.62 x 25 readily available?
      Also, you must be editing your comments offline like I do, since if you read it again it’s like Déjà vu all over again unless you are talking about two revolvers. LOL

      1. Guilty!! 7.62 x 25 is available. My friend is a dealer, type 10 manufacturer, and does all the class three stuff. He can get the ammo but he has tons, I’m sure. They have it online everywhere.
        It’s funny, I help him organize and clean his inventory but I don’t want a class 3. That stuff is crazy expensive. Thompsons average $25,000 these days.

        1. Overwatch,

          My friend is a dealer, type 10 manufacturer, and does all the class three stuff. He can get the ammo but he has tons, I’m sure. They have it online everywhere.

          Being a manufacturer has its perks. My oldest boy did the standard paperwork for a suppressor and it took nearly a year to approve.
          He then took an H&K MPX and did the paperwork for SBR & suppressor as a manufacturer (Form 4 IIRC) and it was only about 6 weeks. As it turns out, when Ruger, S&W, and the others need paperwork, they get quick results and that then helps other smaller manufacturers with the faster process.

          It’s funny, I help him organize and clean his inventory but I don’t want a class 3. That stuff is crazy expensive. Thompsons average $25,000 these days.

          I have thought about a suppressor; but, a real class 3 is not only expensive, shooting it is even more expensive. My conjecture is that the only class 3 firearms that shoot bullets are owned by government agencies, since those in private hands have a belt feed from the wallet and thus shoot dollar bills.
          I have a friend with a 40 mm suppressed Glock and it is one sweet gun.

          1. I went to a machine gun shoot in NH once. A guy had a Hughes M-134 minigun in 7.62 NATO. He charged $75 to shoot 100 rounds. He asked me if I wanted to try it. I politely declined. It would have been like going to a $1000 a night escort when you suffered from PE.

          2. Overwatch,

            I went to a machine gun shoot in NH once. A guy had a Hughes M-134 minigun in 7.62 NATO. He charged $75 to shoot 100 rounds. He asked me if I wanted to try it. I politely declined. It would have been like going to a $1000 a night escort when you suffered from PE.

            I went to the knob creek machine gun shoot about 40 years ago and there was a guy there with the 50 caliber G.E. mini-gun with a similar offer, and meny who took him up on it.

            I was talking with him and he spent tons of time between the shoots, reloading ammunition for the next shoot. At the time he could load .50 BMG for about $1.00 per round, and evidently made enough on the shoot to pay for the trips. At a cyclic rate of only 1000 RPM (with some variants faster and $1.00 per round, that’s $60,000.00 per hour aggregate or more than my gross yearly salary at the time.

            Another guy had an MP5 and would let people run a stick through it for something like $20.00, which was a lot of money at the time. As it turns out, sub guns bring out the ego in some people, and one guy who was going to shoot the MP5, answered in the affirmative when asked if he had fired full auto before.
            They got him all setup with the lanyard to hole down the muzzle, and the gun made a quick ”zip”, at which point he said the gun had jammed, when in reality he had emptied it. No trigger control and a frustrated guy whose expression seemed to say “Was that all for my $20.00?”
            I have fired full auto a few times in my life; but, until I hit that elusive lottery, I simply cannot afford to own one, let alone feed it.

          3. TOP,

            MP-5s are fun to shoot and with proper training and practice, you can set it on full-auto and fire one round at a time. I managed to do it a few times, but usually two-rounds was the lowest I could go regularly. The HK staff people could do all sorts of tricks with those guns. I was a fair hand with an MP-5, but they were really good.

            They have a drill to test your mechanics in properly mounting and recoil management. Ten yards, bullseye target. Aim at the ten ring and rip a full mag without stopping. If you are doing everything right, you should have a 30-round group about two inches across. Actually not hard to do if you are holding the thing right.

          4. Zulu 3-6,

            MP-5s are fun to shoot and with proper training and practice, you can set it on full-auto and fire one round at a time. I managed to do it a few times, but usually two-rounds was the lowest I could go regularly.

            Fun? Absolutely. I have not shot a lot; but, the few times I did I could get a few 2-5? at a time. The friend with the SP5 has the sweet gun, since the build in suppressor not only lowers the noise; but, also seem to slightly lower the recoil.

            The HK staff people could do all sorts of tricks with those guns. I was a fair hand with an MP-5, but they were really good.

            You and I could do as well, given a few MP5’s and a few cases of ammunition to play with? Talk about winning the lottery or dreaming?

            They have a drill to test your mechanics in properly mounting and recoil management. Ten yards, bullseye target. Aim at the ten ring and rip a full mag without stopping. If you are doing everything right, you should have a 30-round group about two inches across. Actually not hard to do if you are holding the thing right.

            I shot something similar and did OK; but, the mag only had about 4 or 5 at a time. As I recall you put you weak hand into the lanyard attached to the muzzle and push down, essentially allowing the gun to sort of free float in a figure 8. Didn’t have enough trigger time on full auto; but, I do OK with my boys MPX.
            It is finally getting warm enough and dry enough to hit the backyard range again. I need some trigger time, since most of what I’ve been doing recently was with those 6 mm Dollar General Airsoft pistols and a Model 499B Champion. I bought two of these at an instructor clinic years ago, and they are still a nice little rifle, meant for 5 meter competition.
            https://www.daisy.com/product/Daisy-Model-499B-Champion/?itemnumber=990499-001

          5. TOP,

            When I went to a formal MP-5 operator’s course, given by HK, no sling was used except to hang the gun from. All was accomplished by firm pressure into your shoulder by both hands. The elbow of the firing arm was kept down, not flyway like I was taught in the Marines for the rifle offhand. It works.

            The MP-5SD (the model with the integral suppressor) was even more fun to shoot, especially if you had sub-sonic ammo for it. Less felt recoil and very quiet. The sound of the action cycling was louder than the gunshots.

  9. Steve Quayle Alert – https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2275

    Steve’s words are in BOLD. The info, whom he posted, from a contributor who sent him info, is in sentence case lettering.

    IS POLE SHIFT UNDERWAY- GLOBAL MAGNETOMETERS,ARE OFF THE CHARTS ,SEEING HUGE SPIKES-REMEMBER MY WORDS LAST SEPT-THE WORD NORMAL WILL NEVER BE AGAIN-GONE ARE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

    A series of magnetometers have been set up around the world. They are measuring every three seconds. Yes, seconds. They are seeing huge spikes as the magnetic pole does its excursion. This is been slow- a back and forth thing. But now they are beginning to see that it is encroaching upon the Whitford Lines, at 40 degrees. It is maybe 200 miles away. When it hits that line it will snap, causing anything from a pole reversal to a crustal displacement. This could happen as you say in minutes.CELESTE

    1. Almost There,
      On your ”Steve Quayle Alert“

      A series of magnetometers have been set up around the world. They are measuring every three seconds. Yes, seconds. They are seeing huge spikes as the magnetic pole does its excursion. This is been slow- a back and forth thing. But now they are beginning to see that it is encroaching upon the Whitford Lines, at 40 degrees.

      Those magnetometers have been in use for decades and are used not only for measuring the magnetic field; but, for detecting changes in magma and searching for mineral deposits.
      I have a rather good background in the physics of magnetic fields and have never heard of the ”Whitford Lines”; but, more importantly, Google finds no references to them either.
      This stuff seems all hyped and apocalyptic where it could just be straight hard science.
      For instance the following assertion is sheer conjecture.

      It is maybe 200 miles away. When it hits that line it will snap, causing anything from a pole reversal to a crustal displacement. This could happen as you say in minutes.CELESTE

      For real science with real scientists affiliated with NASA, look to:
      http://spaceweather.com/

      And for a good description of the solar effect on our magnetic field, see:
      ”The Interplanetary Magnetic Field”
      http://spaceweather.com/glossary/imf.html

      We know the field is shifting an weakening; but, such “snapping: effects and what events they may bring about are still in the realm of conjecture or prophecy.
      I prefer measurable science.

      1. NEVER A STRAIT ANSWER… think i’ll take Quale’s version, I Believe he wants me to be prepared… not so sure abt NASA

        1. Anonamo Also,

          NEVER A STRAIT ANSWER

          You are correct.
          That’s because when it comes to most physical phenomenon from weather, to earthquakes, to the changes in the magnetic field of the earth, there are no ”Straight” or ”Precise” answers possible due to the number of variables, their relationship to one another, and the ways and reasons they constantly change, continuously affecting the system in which they play a part.
          Multivariable calculus can give us a range of outcomes; but, in a Chaotic system only ranges are possible with limited predictive capability.
          See the following: ”Chaos theory” for more details
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

          think i’ll take Quale’s version, I Believe he wants me to be prepared… not so sure abt NASA

          Except under the previous (BHO’s) administration, the NASA mission has always been for scientific discovery and betterment of the country and its people as follows: The agency’s current mission statement calls on the agency “to pioneer the future in space exploration, scientific discovery and aeronautics research.”

          I have no doubt Steve Quayle wants people to be prepared; but, when he tosses out assertions based only on other assertions, not always based on the scientific method I have to wonder if it is just for sensationalizing things. I have found no real CV on him, except for this biographic snippet on the Coast to Coast radio site:
          “Steve Quayle is a researcher and author of over a dozen books dealing with advanced ancient technology and civilizations. His documentary film production company Gensix Productions films the “True Legends The Series” all over the world in search of the Lost Cities and the giants of history who were the builders of the great megalithic structures of the ancient world. Steve is a former talk radio show host who has been warning against genetic armageddon and the end of the human race for decades. He claims transhumanism and the hybrid age is the most dangerous advancement in the technological war against humanity in history.”
          In some ways he’s no different than Erich von Däniken whose 1968 book ”Chariots of the Gods. Unsolved Mysteries of the Past” made similar assertions more than 50 years ago.

          They toss in the word “researcher”; but, do not mention what field or education for that research. Like George Noory and the late Art Bell, they are fun to listen to; but, taking anything they mention seriously without a lot of your own research is IMHO doing yourself a serious injustice; however, some people may like to be scared all of the time, and this is a good way without climbing cliffs or buildings or jumping out of airplanes.
          OTOH, This morning I saw interviews about the earthquakes in California with Seismologist Dr. Lucile M. Jones who mentioned that earthquakes are random and unpredictable (back to the chaotic system again) & Theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku on how lucky it was that the epicenter was near a small town in the desert and not a large city like L.A.
          Dr. Lucy. Jones & Dr. Michio Kaku have published CV’s anyone can look at.
          In any case, it is a chaotic world and those of us who prep acknowledge that fact and do what we can to mitigate it.

          1. In other words, SQ has to prove he’s worth reading/ listening to. Thats what a CV is for, right?

          2. Babycatcher,

            In other words, SQ has to prove he’s worth reading/ listening to. Thats what a CV is for, right?

            That’s essential correct.
            CV or Curriculum Vitae (“The course of your life in Latin”) is basically a list of your education and accomplishments that in more job related cases might be called a resume. This would list your education, both informal & formal as well as any degrees, diplomas or certifications, as well as experience in a particular field.
            As an engineer I have degrees and a resume I used for job applications and as a midwife I suspect you have such a thing to offer to potential clients.
            We’ve all heard that opinions are like elbows; with most people having at least two; but, when talking about scientifically base phenomenon, some proof should be required, or at least, one should check out the assertions made by others, which today is easier than ever.

  10. My wife is working more and wants to recreate more. She has become friends with her patients mother and they have been going kayak fishing. My wife wants to include me but that means a boat. So, I got to find a boat for us. I always knew she was a keeper. We are now the proud owners of a used 15 ft Ash Craft flats boat with a 48 hp Evinrude motor. She was forced to work 30 hours overtime in the last two weeks, that was enough to half pay for the boat. Just got it last night, can’t wait to get it registered and on the water.

    For the last two weeks the temperatures have been in the upper 90s, now it is supposed to rain for the next 10 days. The garden is done but okra is still growing and the cucumbers and melons are still producing. All I have to do is find them under the grass and weeds. This will be a good time to drag my Kubota under the garage and tear it down.

  11. rose hips dont grow on every ose or multaflora rose bush. sometimes they have it, sometimes they dont.
    never used plantain or jewelweed tinctures.

    finished planting corn and beans earlier in the week. buckle up for higher food prices.
    just started digging my garlic. my tomatos are setting fruit, peppers showing earlier blooms and fruit.
    i’m looking for a young bull, to turn loose with my heifers. to switch all over to beef.

    i’ve got a few leads on a small square baler. huge forage shortage, this year going into fall. get your hay and straw early. it wont last.

    1. BLACK,

      rose hips dont grow on every ose or multaflora rose bush. sometimes they have it, sometimes they dont.

      Teue; but, the woods around here have enough MultiFlora roses to make a good dent. I’ll not be looking again until fall; but, I’ve seen too many of them while fighting the thorns when deer hunting.

      finished planting corn and beans earlier in the week. buckle up for higher food prices.

      That’s great to hear, since many of the fields around here still resemble ponds.

      just started digging my garlic. my tomatos are setting fruit, peppers showing earlier blooms and fruit.

      We finally got all of the plants in except for some candy onions. It you would like some more, stop by and get them. Those flats were planted from seeds and are overflowing.
      We’re still hoping to get some short maturity seeds in the ground this week.
      And my new building should be here in about 10-14 days. Can’t wait.

      i’m looking for a young bull, to turn loose with my heifers. to switch all over to beef.

      You know where I got my beef; but, once you’re up and running, I know someone that’s looking for a half soon.

      i’ve got a few leads on a small square baler. huge forage shortage, this year going into fall. get your hay and straw early. it wont last.

      Amen there and we only need enough for a small horse.

      As always, yell if I can help with anything.

      1. thank you for the offer. i have 1 steer almost half grown. i needim weighed in again, it’s been awhile. had a pen get loose the other day and they had no get up and run in them. just to well fed.
        then i have a bunch of other limosine and angus cross heifers /

  12. I hope everyone had a safe and enjoyable Independence Day weekend!

    It’s been an interesting and belt tightening couple of weeks here, with DH ‘between jobs’, so there hasn’t been a lot of prepping done, more like ‘maintenance mode’. DH was getting ready to ‘junk’ his dad’s old van, it had electrical issues, and we replaced the ECU twice. Well, after sitting for a while, the darned thing is working ‘almost’ fine. He took it to Uhaul to have them rewire the electrical for the hitch (one part of the problem he figured out). So he’s decided to keep it. Which means I get MY van back (yay!) but then IT starts having the electrical issues it had several months back. He changed the positive terminal on the battery, which seemed to help for a short while, but the concensus is I need a new alternator. DH was going to give the third van, only good for around town, to his brother, but figured he could get at least a couple hundred out of it. And all of a sudden, he’s found a couple of the issues that van has, and with cheap fixes, it is running better too. So the debate is on…keep it for backup or sell it for the money…

    Experienced what turned out to be an 8 hr power outage. AEP initially said a couple hours to restoration, then extended it to the next day at 4 PM (went out about 7 PM). As hot and humid as it was, that got me worried about the stuff in the fridges/freezers. So as soon as I got home from work that night, I covered both fridges with comforters to help keep the cold in/heat out. It was middle of the night, and DH hasn’t checked the genny recently, but would have gotten it fired up in the morning if need be. We have enough alternative lighting, so that wasn’t an issue, and battery backups so we could run a small tv and fan. The power thankfully came back on at 3 AM and everything was fine. Since we rent, I’m not about to invest in a Generac or anything like that, but it was a kick in the butt to DH to check on our bigger and smaller gennies.

    Onto the group questions:

    I don’t forage, am not familiar with jewelweed, but have plenty of plantain growing in my yard. I haven’t done anything with it, but I do know it is edible and medicinal. I know I can pop a leaf in my mouth, chew it up, and use it as a poultice!
    Garden is progressing well. I have little maters on the Red Cherry, Yellow Pear, and Brad’s Atomic Grapes (all in containers) and flowers on the Dad’s Sunset Orange and Brandywine plants in the garden. Continuing to harvest snap peas. Basil and parsley going crazy.
    Iran got busted, plain and simple. Now they are willing to ‘talk’ with France? Give them back their dang oil, but don’t let it go to it;s original destination.
    It ‘appears’ the FL mall explosion was gas leak related. But why is the ATF there?
    IF a demonrat should win 2020, you can be sure to see more restrictive gun laws put forth…it remains to be seen just what a fuss would be put up tho…
    TOP, God Bless America, the old standby, was the first song to come to mind…I’m sure I could come up with a few more recent ones if I wasn’t so dang tired….

    Thor, OUCH for DD2, what a crazy injury! Will keep her in my prayers!

    My question for the ladies out there, what is your go to for UTI? Aside from drinking cranberry juice or lemonade, taking extra vitamin C, utilizing an OTC pyridamine…Any particular herbs/weeds (I know parsley is a diuretic and high in vitamin C)?

    Have a great week everyone!

    1. Grammyprepper,

      I hope everyone had a safe and enjoyable Independence Day weekend!

      We did here and for once the weather was nearly perfect.

      So he’s decided to keep it. Which means I get MY van back (yay!) but then IT starts having the electrical issues it had several months back. He changed the positive terminal on the battery, which seemed to help for a short while, but the concensus is I need a new alternator.

      Vehicles are like women, can’t live with ‘em and can’t live without ‘em LOL.
      Have you looked into a rebuilt alternator or having yours rebuilt? There’s a local place here that does that for much less than new.

      DH was going to give the third van, only good for around town, to his brother, but figured he could get at least a couple hundred out of it. And all of a sudden, he’s found a couple of the issues that van has, and with cheap fixes, it is running better too. So the debate is on…keep it for backup or sell it for the money

      For me it comes down to what will have the most significant effect you my life, the extra cash or the spare vehicle. Only you can answer that one.

      Experienced what turned out to be an 8 hr power outage. AEP initially said a couple hours to restoration, then extended it to the next day at 4 PM (went out about 7 PM). As hot and humid as it was, that got me worried about the stuff in the fridges/freezers. So as soon as I got home from work that night, I covered both fridges with comforters to help keep the cold in/heat out. It was middle of the night, and DH hasn’t checked the genny recently, but would have gotten it fired up in the morning if need be.

      When did this happen? We had an outage on July 2nd @ 5:19 PM lasting only about 3 hours; but, talking with the folks in the area on the radios and posting on local social media, the outage appeared to be rather widespread. Still haven’t heard a proximal cause from anyone yet.
      BTW, we now have a new local social media called ”Neighborhood” that is like a mini Facebook with only local (perhaps within 15 miles) people invited and participating.
      The DW correctly called it the new version of the backyard fence; but, it has been good to ask for recommendations and ask or answer questions on local concerns.

      We have enough alternative lighting, so that wasn’t an issue, and battery backups so we could run a small tv and fan. The power thankfully came back on at 3 AM and everything was fine. Since we rent, I’m not about to invest in a Generac or anything like that, but it was a kick in the butt to DH to check on our bigger and smaller gennies.

      Having the out of the box quick thinking to insulate your cooling devices and enough lighting and power to live relatively comfortably, shows you are IMHO truly in the correct lifestyle & mindset.
      As you know, I have a Generac that performs a weekly self test; but, I will admit, that my old Gensets rarely were tested, and may have failed when really needed, so your DH’s lack in this area is not unique. I also suspect he and I are not alone.

      Garden is progressing well. I have little maters on the Red Cherry, Yellow Pear, and Brad’s Atomic Grapes (all in containers) and flowers on the Dad’s Sunset Orange and Brandywine plants in the garden. Continuing to harvest snap peas. Basil and parsley going crazy.

      We finally got our garden in; but, you are well ahead of us.

      It ‘appears’ the FL mall explosion was gas leak related. But why is the ATF there

      This is the easy one: ”Expertise”. After the attacks on 9/11 (September 11, 2001) president George W. Bush signed into law the Homeland Security Act of 2002. In addition to the creation of DHS, the law moved ATF from the Department of Treasury to the Department of Justice & the agency’s name was changed to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
      Just like all mass transit accidents from plane crashes, bus crashes, and train crashes are investigated by NTSB, ATFE is involved in any large explosion to ascertain the cause.

      IF a demonrat should win 2020, you can be sure to see more restrictive gun laws put forth…it remains to be seen just what a fuss would be put up tho

      As a life member (recently endowment life member) of the ”Evil” NRA, I assure you we will fight and failing, ignore any unconstitutional laws.
      I find it interesting that Roe v. Wade is ”Stare Decisis” (settled law); but, Heller v. DC & MacDonald v. Chicago can still be ignored; but, then again, trying to see consistency and integrity in some people will only drive you Krazy.

      TOP, God Bless America, the old standby, was the first song to come to mind…I’m sure I could come up with a few more recent ones if I wasn’t so dang tired.

      I have been compiling a list and will publish it here at some point.
      Here’s the classic: ”Kate Smith Introduces God Bless America :: Best Quality”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zF7a0wB-Lg

      My question for the ladies out there, what is your go to for UTI? Aside from drinking cranberry juice or lemonade, taking extra vitamin C, utilizing an OTC pyridamine…Any particular herbs/weeds (I know parsley is a diuretic and high in vitamin C)?

      That’s a good question for the DW that you will hopefully soon be able to ask in person.

    2. Grammy, for UTI, my most effective.available from woodlandwildcraft.com ( used to get from orig owner under another name, same product, recipe.these ppl taught by orig herbalist I bought from)
      I get separate tinctures because of possible side effects. Pipsissewa is safer to take for longer times. PIPSISSEWA TINCTURE/ 4 oz is 13$ They also have a combined urinary support tincture for longer term use, if a frequent issue…I got all 3 and used the Usnea and Pipsisssewa more often. usually I catch urinary issues fairly early so is treated and symptoms are gone within 12 hours. by continuing for 48 hrs after symptoms, I avoid a rebound.
      Pipsisswea tincture.mild dieutetic and is also good to use for those who have CHF.(use amt accord to bottle instructions q 4 hrx 24 hours, then Bid til symptoms are gone for 48 hours. and Usnea tincture( I use only 4 days – dilute one cc with one cc of water. hold sublingual for up to 2 min then swallow and find something that tastes good I used it bid..) Dandelion tincture would help clear both liver and kidneys..You should research that for making your own, should it become necessary.all parts of that plant are used.

  13. I forgot to add, over the past couple months I have been adding physical books as well as pdfs to my collection. In no specific order:

    Daisy Luther’s The Flat Broke Cookbook
    Melissa K. Norris’ The Made From Scratch Life
    Daisy Luther’s Prepper Pantry
    Laurie Neverman’s Never Buy Bread Again
    Jill Winger’s The Prairie Homestead Cookbook (I absolutely love this one, it is beautiful)

    Some of them come with PDF copies, or additional PDF titles.

    I also have purchased these for the grandkids over time, I have no affiliation with them whatsoever, but they are worth looking at:

    https://tuttletwins.com/

    These are good for kids who can read chapter books, I bought a series for the GS for Christmas this past year and keep up on their new productions. I’ve not had the opportunity to discuss the series with him, but have the latest one to present him, so it will bring up the conversation.

    https://learnourhistory.com/

    This venture is backed by Mike Huckabee. I purchased a couple of videos, intending to give them to GS last Christmas, but after watching them, didn’t give them to him. As intelligent as he is, these seem to be more geared towards tweens or teens. This is a subscription type thing, i will soon be cancelling, but I wanted to get the last couple videos released regarding women in history and sports in history.

  14. Saw something unusual today. the National Hurricane Center is showing a tropical depression forming, not way out near western Africa, but on the border of Tennessee and Alabama. Predicted to move south toward the Gulf of Mexico where it may take the next steps in tropical weather formation.

    I can’t remember ever seeing this deep inland tropical formation before except a few very close to the Gulf. Take a peek for yourselves.

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

      1. Thor1,

        that’s crazy. Do you think its due to a pole shift?

        Do you mean physical or magnetic poles?
        BTW, in what is known as ”True Polar Wwander”, the solid Earth can rotate with respect to a fixed spin axis (a little wobbly).
        Research shows that during the last 200 million years a total true polar wander of some 30° has occurred, but that no super-rapid shifts in the Earth’s pole were found during this period.
        Yes, that’s 200,000,000 years so I lose no sleep over it.

        1. In the mind of a degenerate gambler, that means we’re due. Kinda like when Krusty the clown bet against the Globetrotters.

    1. Zulu 3-6,

      Saw something unusual today. the National Hurricane Center is showing a tropical depression forming, not way out near western Africa, but on the border of Tennessee and Alabama. Predicted to move south toward the Gulf of Mexico where it may take the next steps in tropical weather formation.
      I can’t remember ever seeing this deep inland tropical formation before except a few very close to the Gulf. Take a peek for yourselves.

      I’ve been watching weather for decades, including some formal classes in 2000 and various Skywarn classes from the 1970’s and I agree that this is odd and bears watching.
      I suspect that if we look globally, there’s some decent explanation and I’ll be looking for information from Joe Bastardi the Chief Forecaster at WeatherBell Analytics. I have seen him on various news shows as a guest and his explanations always seem well thought out and backed by good data.

      He is however, a man made climate change denier. LOL.

      1. TOP,

        I’m sure there is an explanation. One reason the West African topics have been so quiet this far into the hurricane season is because of a large quantity of Sahara Desert dust blown up into the atmosphere. As it settles down into the Atlantic Ocean, apparently it causes enough of a climatic shift to dampen down the conditions for the formation of tropical weather systems. I believe, the forecasters expect that Saharan dust to go away a little later in the season.

        I’ve seen and read some of Joe Bastardi’s stuff. I agree he seems to be science-based and makes logical and cogent arguments. Being a human-caused climate change denier increases his credibility in my books.

        1. Zulu 3-6,

          I’ve seen and read some of Joe Bastardi’s stuff. I agree he seems to be science-based and makes logical and cogent arguments. Being a human-caused climate change denier increases his credibility in my books.

          I agree & suspect we are not alone.
          Mark Steyn’s “strong>”Disgrace to the profession”
          &
          ”Dark Winter: How the Sun Is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell” by John Casey
          Also make cogent arguments.
          Poor Al Gore invested heavily in the infrastructure for a Carbon Exchange (Like the stock exchanges) and seemingly has lost his shirt. Funny how I don’t feel sorry for him.

        1. Thor1,

          Top, I just heard the entire state of Ohio just declared a hepatitis A outbreak. Have you heard anything?

          There was an outbreak declared last year; but, when I looked it up there was nothing since June 2018 with some 1100 cases reported statewide; but, with a population of nearly 12 million spread over an area of 44,825 mi² that I suspect is only a ”technical” outbreak @ 0.0009 % of the population, so no big deal. As a member of our EMA & Medical Reserve Corps, I would get a heads up if something ominous were brewing.
          According to the Ohio Department of Health, a total of 16 states have experienced recent outbreaks, including the neighboring states of Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan and West Virginia,”
          Yet another reason to live rural & away from population centers.

    2. This was addressed last night by one of the weather watchers, don’t remember if it was BP earthwatch or dahboo77 but one of them…they had never seen it before either.

      1. AA,

        I’ve been an avid Hurricane Center watcher since I moved to Florida and this is the first time I can remember this origin of development. The NHC has bumped the probability of it turning into a tropical cyclone up to 50% from 40%

        We’ll see what happens. Out of our hands, regardless.

  15. Tara, I’ll look into Cloud Berry’s, since I live in Washington state, I’ll ask my sister, she lives in Alaska, in a few weeks when she’s here for a visit. For UTI, I keep AZO, on hand you can buy this at any big box store, or pharmacy, and I keep cranberry pills, on hand too, I just make sure I’m drinking enough water, and use the bathroom when my body signals me too. My daughter had a UTI, and I bought her the AZO brand of pills, they have a few different types for different issues a woman might be having. I also don’t take baths, that’s how my daughter got an infection I told her she needed to cut back on baths, or just stop all together.

    I would like the pack to maybe pull back on all the questions, I feel that this is Tara’s area and that asking more questions, is stepping on her toes, let just allow Tara, to come up with questions, plus can we limit our feedback to one or two times, I also feel like it’s too much to read 5 replys, to the same person, and everyone says the same thing over and over, I can’t enjoy what people, are doing each week with out the bantering. I don’t find it a help and I almost forget what I’m reading, I believe sometimes this blog, gets hijacked to the point of it not being what did you do to prepare any more but adding in all the political news and we get enough of that day to day let it be “What Did You Do This Week ” please…

    1. Another thing that can affect ladies and UTI’s is tight clothing ,and unders that have no cotton lining. I also keep and use canberry and the azo standard (which is the old standby pyridium) if caught early these alone are sometimes enough to take care of it. The herbals mentioned above always work and quickly. Usnea since used sublingual works very quickly. The Pipsissewa tastes bad, but works, so only a few days of it is needed.
      tara’s questions. Don’t use jewelweed, can’t identify it and do not know if i have it.
      . Plantain I have both the long leaf and the broad leaf varieties. they are used the same and interchange tit for tat. I Keep and use PLantain Tincture.This is a lifesaver..It can also be used internally..Plantain herb is completely edible and I use PGA so do not have to be concerned about toxicity. I triple tincture it and use it for DH’s sudden middle of the night hives along with benadryl,(50 mg)and allegra chewables(120mg) smushed and held under the tongue.. Delayed reactions to some kinds of insect bites can be life threatening, to those sensitive. Once he awakens itching,we start with the first blisters to come up and work way over every hive area until they begin to subside , by the time we are finished with one round is time to do another. usually we continue this for 30-45 min.until blisters visibly begin to reduce and fade….depending on how soon we have caught the allergic reaction.
      He have a visiting Grand-dawg-ter who is throwing a fit because she does not want to stay here…G M is throwing a fit as well.Inside doggy has become outside Dawg.. complete.w/ ice water her soft bed and crunchies.will bring her in tonight because of coyotes.Free run of this house has ended.not laughing.she has given me three complete loads of laundry to do within 12 hours.
      garden is coming.along. volunteer acorn squash are going great guns., and volunteer charleston grey watermelon as well . routine care done for them, dug potaotes, might have gotten seed back. will replant with the few we got…have planted additional varieties of winter keeper squash. Tatuma (run on ground) ..and Georgia Bakers(climber)few herbals i added are ok. sage, basil and oregano. Sweetpotaotes are doing well. egyptian onion starts ae doing ok… few peppers are doing ok…have the poblano in wicking pot and it has about 10 small -med ones on it..the two new ones i put in 4 weeks later is doing well and beginning to set. grape vines… so so. grass growing well. Gumdrop has given us a litter of 9, last count she had all of them. born on the 2nd. have another litter from Cally due any time….? she is nesting but not pulling hair..

    1. Thor1
      Believe they only have a life span of 6 weeks before they perish. Do not quote me on that, it is what I have heard.

      1. Antique collector,

        Believe they only have a life span of 6 weeks before they perish. Do not quote me on that, it is what I have heard.

        It’s typically 3-5 months; but, that’s under ideal conditions. Varroa mite infestations, too hot, too cold or too moist can significantly shorten those times.
        Gestation for worker bees is typically 21 days from egg to bee, so along with that 3-5 months, their lifespan is relatively short.

  16. Thor1,

    Bees dropping dead……we are in trouble!!!

    Except for the fact that most are not.

    I find the video kind of odd and not very helpful.
    The narrator obviously knows very little about honeybees when he says:
    ”What Is Going On? Bees Are Spinning, Dropping Dead In California and UK”
    They often fly in circles to orient themselves to the environment, since the bee dance performed by the scouts, tells the colony where to find resources.

    ”All kinds of bees dead, and it looks like they’re doing the same thing.
    Flying in circles. ”

    I don’t know what “the same thing” is; but, bees die all of the time, with a lifespan in the range of 3-4 months. You’ll often look at the base of a hive and see piles of dead carcasses laying there, swept out by the still livening workers.

    ”Hee even seen, the bee thing that happened in the UK. ”
    Seen?

    ”Their magnetic fields are messed with, frequencies? ”
    It appears that Honey bees do sense magnetic fields using a magnetic structure in their abdomens; but, there is no frequency component involved.
    All this video really proves is that anyone can make a video and post it to YouTube.

      1. Almost There,

        TOP…. Yes, bees are in trouble.

        Not as much as this article seems to indicate. Once again I think articles like these are part of the MSM’s ”Fear Industrial Complex”. Keep us all scared and the leftists can do whatever they want in order to save us.

        From the article:

        Between Oct. 1, 2018, and April 1, 2019, 37.7% of the managed honey bee population — colonies kept by commercial beekeepers — declined, 7 percentage points lower than the same time frame during the 2017-2018 winter, according to preliminary data from the Bee Informed Partnership, a nonprofit associated with the University of Maryland.

        These statistics are only for commercial apiaries; but, there are thousands of smaller apiarists once including me and at least a few of my friends. I’m hoping to get a few more colonies operating next spring again.

        This past winter season represents the highest level of winter losses reported since the survey began in 2006, according to the report.

        Does this report include non-commercial beekeepers? I know several who lost hives; but, nothing out of the ordinary.

        The number of hives that survive the winter months is an overall indicator of bee health, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

        The EPA? Why not the USDA?

        Managed colonies are shipped around the country to pollinate our food

        I’ve been telling people that this is the problem and it’s basically a lazy thing to do instead of keeping and managing colonies where they are needed.

        These U.S. crops are produced with the help of 2.6 million colonies transported by 18-wheelers from place to place during peak flowering, McArt said. Of the $20 billion worth of U.S. crop production supported by pollinators, commercial honey bees are responsible for about half. Wild bees and other pollinators take care of the rest.

        More poor & lazy practices.

        The bees then travel to Florida to pollinate citrus crops before making their way up through the Southeast for the production of blueberries, cherries and other specialty fruits and vegetables, McArt said.

        The bees then go to a set location for several months, where they gather nectar and produce honey, McArt said.

        More travel, more stress, and more opportunity for disease vectors to enter and harm the colonies.

        The largest contributor to the decline of bee health is the varroa mite, a parasite that invades hives and and spreads diseases, McArt said.

        Varroa mites are manageable; but, not when you spend your time loading and unloading hives instead of properly managing them. If you were shipping livestock around the country and didn’t take time to properly clean the stalls, leaving the animals to lie in their own waste,, no one would wonder why there was a problem.
        Perhaps like firearms, interstate transport of Honeybees should be regulated.

        Other reasons for the loss in population are loss of habitat and poor management practices, such as moving bees through the frigid Rocky Mountains during their winter journey to California, McArt said.

        As I’ve stated before, CCD (Colony Collapse Disorder) is really most likely PPB (Piss Poor Beekeeping) and blaming the illusive CCD as the reason.

        While Williams does not believe honey bees are under threat of extinction, if their numbers continue to dwindle they could become a much more costly commodity for farmers, he said.

        Treated as a commodity instead of livestock, which is what they are.

        High bee losses year after year could lead to fewer beekeepers, and rental prices per bee colony could increase dramatically, Williams said.

        I guess everything is for rent, even though the outcome could be hazardous to the bees.

        “Really, what’s at stake here is rising food costs and the ability of beekeepers to deliver healthy bees to the crops,” Mulica said.

        Are we seeing a trend here? Hauling bees instead of keeping them.

        “We would not have almonds if it weren’t for honey bees,” McArt said.

        If the almond growers would also keep bees, they could save money on rentals, increase the population, and have another product to sell.
        Honey roasted almonds anyone?

        All of the reasons for the loss of the honey bee population derive from human error, McArt said.

        Bingo!!!!!

        “Every single one of these stresses that we put on pollinators is man-made,” he said.

        And we can fix it without any big government program, other than encouraging people to start keeping their own colonies.

        To save the bee population, researchers are looking into best management practices for beekeepers, such as how to treat hives for varroa mite, Mulica said.

        Varroa mites are only a small problem for those who don’t continuously drag their bees all over god’s creation.
        I’ve been working with bees off and on since I was 14 and there is simply no good reason for this decline, other than laziness in beekeeping practices.

      2. several culprits.
        1 bio terrorism destroyin hives.
        2 mono ag culture. you need a wide assortment of flowing nectar. alfala/red and white clover/maple trees/basswood/soy beans and corn/chickory/asters/golden rod.
        3 wax worms wax worms wax worms. did i mention wax worms. bee s will not tolerate any wax worms. they will leave at the drop of a hat.

        we lost 1 hive and 2 nucs over winter.
        currently have 8 or9 hives and 3 nucs running currently. harvested about 55 gallons last year. i will call that a win. if someone wants to give me a grant of a couple figures. i’ll keep doing what i am doing. i think this is year 5 for me. i would be curious how much experience did eaxh bee keeper have. there is such a thing as , it gets to big for you to handle or you get lazy and cut corners.

        someone gave me some advice on bee keeping. there is 3 areas of running a apiary, to make money. pollenation/growing colonies and making honey. choose 1. if you try to do 2 or 3 . you will fail.

  17. Picked up over $36 worth of chicken for just over $6. Canning chicken is on the agenda for today. Had a $30 credit and the chicken was $1.49 a pound so not a contest.
    California’s earthquake was a reminder to not get careless about preps so back to work on getting the preps updated. Living in Oregon I haven’t felt the earthquakes we have received but that could change in a heartbeat.

  18. A stray cat has been spraying on my front porch. My inside Tom is spraying. We had to throw out one inside rug, two outside rugs and the door mats. I am ready to shoot the SOB.

    1. Bam Bam,

      Has your Tom been “broken” yet by a vet? Neutering helps if you haven’t done so. So says one of my sisters (the family Cat Lady). 🙂

      1. Zulu 3-6 & Bam Bam,

        Has your Tom been “broken” yet by a vet? Neutering helps if you haven’t done so. So says one of my sisters (the family Cat Lady).

        While I’ve never heard that procedure called ”broken” before, since neutered or fixed is common here it does curb the males from doing such things.
        Our inside boy often looks longingly at the outside cats through the glass in the storm doors; but, we have no such problems with any of them. The boy inside has been neutered and although not all of the outside cats have been fixed, living in the country with multiple large barns, other outbuildings and space to roam, seems to keep the outside boy from spraying.
        I don’t know what to suggest for outside city cats.

        1. TOP,

          Animals can’t be “fixed” if you’re breaking some part of them. They have to be “broken.” 🙂 THEN you can have them fixed (if possible).

          1. Zulu 3-6,

            Animals can’t be “fixed” if you’re breaking some part of them. They have to be “broken.” 🙂 THEN you can have them fixed (if possible).

            You make a valid point; but, often colloquial language and logic don’t quite intersect. In this part of Ohio there are still people, some my age or older, who call green bell peppers, ”Mangos” and will argue the point with you. That’s one fight I either don’t take on, or I show them a brand name seed packet and watch them scratch their heads.

  19. All,
    With the earthquakes in California I was finally able to get through to Sirius who is doing fine. The epicenter was some 150 miles to his northeast and while it did shake his bed and wake him, there was no damage. He hasn’t posted here due to being busy with some family issues; but, promises to check in soon
    He did mention that he was in the best place to be during a quake. In bed asleep.

  20. Hi: I was directed to this website by [email protected]

    He thought there may be someone who could help me out with my questions below.

    I have a Bison Deep Well hand pump installed OUTSIDE, directly over the well stand, WHICH HOUSES MY ELECTRIC SUBMERSIBLE PUMP. It works great.

    I want to have a hand pump installed INSIDE AS WELL, AND to be HOOKED UP COMING OFF THE WATER HOLDING TANK.

    I was told by a salesperson at Bison that this couldn’t be done, so I got the outside hand pump.

    However, from reading one of Dan’s old blogs, that appears to be not true.

    My static water level is 21 feet and as I stated above I have successfully installed hand deep well pump outside.

    From anyone’s experience would it be possible to hook up another hand pump inside, (in my cellar) where my water holding tank is, with a shallow well Bison Pump AND/OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY KIND OF FOOT PUMP THAT CAN BE UTILIZED WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, BATTERIES, ETC.

    The well itself is about 68 feet deep. Would I still be able to pump up water from that depth into my water holding tank by using a hand or foot pump? If so, which one/ones? (Bison, etc.) Also once water is pumped to the level of the pipe that enters my house, it goes straight in–it doesn’t have to go uphill, etc.

    There are not very many people in this area who have done what I did (I am residential and from what I gathered from my plumber, the others are those who are farmers or very large homesteads) so my plumber was not experienced in a residential phase at all; although, he has installed wells before.

    Any advice would be greatly helpful.

    Thanks

    1. Marilyn,

      He thought there may be someone who could help me out with my questions below.

      Welcome aboard. There are a lot of people here with various skills, so Dan is likely correct.

      I have a Bison Deep Well hand pump installed OUTSIDE, directly over the well stand, WHICH HOUSES MY ELECTRIC SUBMERSIBLE PUMP. It works great.

      I just checked your Bison pump, and it works the way most common hand pumps work, lifting water in a cylinder with a check valve, by pulling and dropping a vertical rod up & down. This vertical installation is why the pump must be installed directly over the well casing, as I suspect your outside pump is configured.

      I want to have a hand pump installed INSIDE AS WELL, AND to be HOOKED UP COMING OFF THE WATER HOLDING TANK.
      I was told by a salesperson at Bison that this couldn’t be done, so I got the outside hand pump.

      Unless the inside pump sits directly over the well casing, and I suspect it does not, the salesperson is probably correct, since the pump can only lift water straight up from the well.

      From anyone’s experience would it be possible to hook up another hand pump inside, (in my cellar) where my water holding tank is, with a shallow well Bison Pump AND/OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY KIND OF FOOT PUMP THAT CAN BE UTILIZED WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, BATTERIES, ETC.

      What kind of holding tank do you have?
      In my case, it is a sealed pressure tank with an internal air bladder; but, a typical hand pump cannot develop enough pressure to charge my tank, so tell us more about your holding tank.

      The well itself is about 68 feet deep. Would I still be able to pump up water from that depth into my water holding tank by using a hand or foot pump? If so, which one/ones? (Bison, etc.) Also once water is pumped to the level of the pipe that enters my house, it goes straight in–it doesn’t have to go uphill, etc.

      Once again, we’ll need more information on your holding tank and how your current water flow works into the rest of the house.
      The well depth is generally not as important as the statuc water level, since that’s where the water is really accessed by the pump.

      Is this system pressurized?

      Any advice would be greatly helpful.

      I suspect all of us will have suggestions; but, this could take some back & forth to actually understand how your system currently works, and the if and how of adding the features you are seeking.

      1. The Ohio Prepper: I live next door in Pennsylvania. Thanks for taking my questions.

        You asked if my system was pressurized. I am not sure what that means.

        My water holding tank is a Goulds Pumps HydroPro Water Systems Model 5GS05422RC .5 HP. The gauge on the tank is generally between 45-50-55 psi. When I checked it a few minutes ago it was at 50 psi.

        I checked the Goulds website and when I put in that model # it came up with the various models they have for submersible pumps. I don’t know if this is of any help to you or not.

        Please be patient with me as I am really deficient in this area. I did the research for the hand pump and was pleasantly surprised when that turned out well.

        Therefore, any advice or points to where I can obtain answers is humbly and gratefully appreciated.

        Marilyn

        1. Marilyn,

          The Ohio Prepper: I live next door in Pennsylvania. Thanks for taking my questions.

          I’m originally from Pennsylvania. Born & raised in Johnstown and still have a few friends back there. One of my sisters lives in Seward.

          You asked if my system was pressurized. I am not sure what that means.

          It means that water is pumped under pressure into a holding tank, and that tank can deliver water to the pipes in the house, even between the times when the pump is not running.
          You actually answered this question with your next question, and the system is indeed pressurized @ around 50 psi.

          My water holding tank is a Goulds Pumps HydroPro Water Systems Model 5GS05422RC .5 HP. The gauge on the tank is generally between 45-50-55 psi. When I checked it a few minutes ago it was at 50 psi.

          Most systems turn on the pump around 30-40 psi and turn it off again around 55-60 psi with the pressure and water delivery maintained by the holding tank and the pressure it contains.

          I checked the Goulds website and when I put in that model # it came up with the various models they have for submersible pumps. I don’t know if this is of any help to you or not.

          All information is helpful and the only dumb question is the one you don’t ask.

          Please be patient with me as I am really deficient in this area. I did the research for the hand pump and was pleasantly surprised when that turned out well.
          Therefore, any advice or points to where I can obtain answers is humbly and gratefully appreciated.

          I need a bit more information. Most hand pumps lift water to their output where it flows into a pipe or trough; but, is under no pressure. Does you hand pump provide pressure.
          To test this, you can turn off the power to your electric pump, operate the hand pump and let us know if water can be drawn from the system, as in still running from a faucet in the house, meaning that the hand pump is pressurizing water into the system and into your holding tank.
          You will need to bear with this a bit, since leading you to understand the system and coming up with a solution could take quite a few Q&A sessions, LOL
          I will warn you up front however, and I suspect many here will agree that often plumbing issues can be the most complex problems to solve.
          I’m a retired engineer so I have plenty of time and enjoy troubleshooting problems likes this, with one exception sometimes being my own problems. LOL
          Being retired also often means late night, or early morning sessions when this old night owl cannot sleep, as you’ll note by the time of this posting.

  21. Ohio Prepper: I just wanted to let you know that I will be doing what you recommended either today or sometime this weekend. We had many storms and flooding since yesterday so I obviously didn’t want to be outdoors pumping water. Another reason I would love to have an indoor pump as well.

    I’ll be back to you.

    Take Care

    Marilyn

  22. Ohio Prepper: I hope you are still “listening”.

    I have been trying for the past two days to turn off the water, by turning off at the main breaker box as well as at the “pull down” handle at the pump itself. The water kept flowing.

    It finally dawned on me that I should try to turn the water valve off that leads from the water holding tank.

    When I did that the water stopped flowing into the faucets of the house, but the pressure stayed about 45-50 psi. I went outside to the pump and pumped several swipes with the pump and came back inside. I turned on the faucet in the kitchen and no water came out. Went back downstairs and the pressure gauge on the water holding tank was the same. When I turned the water valve on that leads from the water holding tank, (the one I described above) the reading remained the same until I turned the electricity back on and it went up another 5-10 psi.

    I don’t know if I did that correctly. As I stated previously I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to the well, etc.

    One thing I did notice is that when I turned on the faucets throughout the house, none of them sputtered like they do when I turn off the water holding tank valve (at the bottom of the water holding tank–red lever) as well as that valve leading from the tank.

    Does this mean that there was still water in the system but it could not get to the faucets?

    I probably did something wrong.

    Marilyn

    1. Marilyn,

      Ohio Prepper: I hope you are still “listening”.

      I’m still here and as you spend more time here, you will find that I am not the only ”fixture” but only one of a lot of good people with expertise and good ideas that have been communicating here, quite literally for years. We welcome you and your questions and potential answers.

      I have been trying for the past two days to turn off the water, by turning off at the main breaker box as well as at the “pull down” handle at the pump itself. The water kept flowing.
      It finally dawned on me that I should try to turn the water valve off that leads from the water holding tank.

      You see, you are beginning to figure it out and understand the system. You first needed to turn off the power to the pump; but, then realized that the pressure tank still has water under pressure and needed to be dealt with.

      When I did that the water stopped flowing into the faucets of the house, but the pressure stayed about 45-50 psi. I went outside to the pump and pumped several swipes with the pump and came back inside. I turned on the faucet in the kitchen and no water came out. Went back downstairs and the pressure gauge on the water holding tank was the same. When I turned the water valve on that leads from the water holding tank, (the one I described above) the reading remained the same until I turned the electricity back on and it went up another 5-10 psi.

      This is what I expected with a hand pump. The next thing to determine is where the water from the hand pump goes when you pump it. Typically these hand pumps pump into a trough or a bucket at the outlet of the pump, and fill a container using gravity and not pressure. When you operate the hand pump, can you see where the water goes to be collected?

      I don’t know if I did that correctly. As I stated previously I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to the well, etc.

      You did that exactly correctly, powering off the pump and turning off the output of the pressure tank, and I suspect you now have a better understanding of how the system works.
      As for being the sharpest knife in the drawer, keep in mind that the sharpest of knives started out as a dull chunk of metal that over time is shaped, worked, tempered, and sharpened, with each step getting better. You now know more than you did when you started.

      One thing I did notice is that when I turned on the faucets throughout the house, none of them sputtered like they do when I turn off the water holding tank valve (at the bottom of the water holding tank–red lever) as well as that valve leading from the tank.

      When you completely drain the system, it fills with air and when you then turn the pump back on, that air gets compressed in the pipes, and must be cleared out through the faucets when they are first opened, causing that sputtering.
      Paying attention to this subtle change is one more step in understanding the system.

      Does this mean that there was still water in the system but it could not get to the faucets?

      Yes, since there was no pressure in the tank to force the water in the pipes to the faucets until the electric pump turned back on and pressurized the system

      I probably did something wrong.

      So far, you are doing everything right and learning how the system works. Once you understand a system, you can more easily determine what is not working and correct it.
      The biggest question to answer now is where is the water from the hand pump collected?
      Here are a few videos that may also help:
      Pressure Tank: Operation and Components
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiVkI8YbE64

      Well tank basics: System overview and pressure tank designs
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhBifh7nCtg

  23. Ohio Prepper: One clarification: when I stated that I pulled down on the “pull down” handle at the pump, I meant to say that I pulled down the level on the “box” that is located on the wall next to the water holding pump. I was previously told this is an auxiliary to the main breaker box.

    Marilyn

  24. Thanks for your expertise and patience. Give me 3-4 days to view the videos, absorb what I am watching and get back to you.

    I think you already know the answer to my questions, etc., but want me to find out the solution, step by step, which I think is the best way to learn something, which is doing. I learn much better when I do something than trying to learn from someone telling me what to do.

    I’ll be back.

    Take Care

    Marilyn

    1. Marilyn, that is exactly TOP’s teaching style! But also as he has no physical knowledge of your set up, he is leading you through the process while he also learns your set up so he can best anwer your questions. Welcome to the group, BTW, I hope to ‘see’ you in the group regularly!

    2. Marilyn,

      Thanks for your expertise and patience. Give me 3-4 days to view the videos, absorb what I am watching and get back to you.

      We’ll be here as will most of the others.

      I think you already know the answer to my questions, etc., but want me to find out the solution, step by step, which I think is the best way to learn something, which is doing. I learn much better when I do something than trying to learn from someone telling me what to do.

      I think I know what you are trying to accomplish; but, you need to know enough about the system to ask the right questions.
      I’ve been training people in numerous disciplines for decades, including training instructors and we teach new instructors about training by describing how people learn. The ways to teach and how people learn from lowest effectiveness to highest is ”Tell me”, ”Let me read it”, ”Show me”, ”Let me do it”.
      Without being there and knowing your system, the best thing we can do here is ask questions to guide you in understanding the system, so that you may explain it to others and gain understanding of it. Some of the best training I’ve gotten was when training others, and determining how best to explain something, since that takes a real knowledge and understanding of the subject, beyond just a simple outline.

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