What I Did to Prep This Week

What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 72: November 24th 2019 – November 30th 2019

DIY pantry

Happy Thanksgiving, Pack! I hope you enjoyed a bountiful dinner and the loving company of family and friends. Approximately one minute after the Thanksgiving turkey is served each year the grandkiddos become allowed to sign Christmas songs. Doing so before the November holiday always costs them a Christmas present.

Christmas is my favorite time of year – well, it is actually tied with the Fourth of July. Because we now have seven little and one adult grandchildren, making and picking out special gifts for them so I get to see the “wow” face they make when opening, warms my heart so much.

Just because we are now in the midst of the holiday cycle does not mean we are skimping on our preps. We are still in the storage building stage on our survival homestead.

We are about to finally wrap up some projects that required the harvesting of more barnwood from the vintage barn we had to tear down for stability reasons. We have finally about exhausted all of the beautiful barnwood and free lumber.

Pictured above is one of our pantry storage areas getting finished up. I love going “shopping” in my beloved’s “junque” piles and pole barn. I did buy new hardware cloth for the parts of the doors that will have it in front to showcase some cool items inside, but everything else came from the old treasures on our property.

In our tribe we start the training young. Ariyah, who just turned two in October, is learning by watching Gus build a door out of old barnwood. She and Auddie were the gophers, they fetched screws and hinges as they were needed – which was also a learning experience.

It did not take them long to anticipate when the items were going to be needed, and they gathered them up by themselves without being asked.

We also recently canned and put up ham and bean soup, chili, homemade ketchup, homemade salsa, and Bobby’s famous spaghetti sauce.

shelves with canned food

I also did my twice monthly Dollar Tree preps shopping. I like to buy at least a dozen of something shelf stable each time I go, and whatever useful odds and ends I can find to add to one or another of our prepping inventory lists. This week I opted for a bulk purchase of rubbing alcohol, and for some medical wrap.

In other preps this week, I may have found a new goat breeder to trade back and forth with to expand the quality line of my herd. We are having to put out hay now, but there is still a little bit of grass here and there for the horses, pony, and miniature donkeys to eat. The donkeys have been earning their keep recently keeping coyotes at bay.

Our future son-in-law is about to bring his hunting pups up here to train them. We are going to keep them at our barn to teach them which animals they are supposed to hunt, and which they are supposed to protect.

They will bed down in a nice stall at night that was built onto the outside of the far exterior barn wall to help them get used to all of the sights, sounds, and smells on that area.

My Buckeye chickens are remaining unimpressive. The hens are as sweet and docile as can be, but they simply are horrible egg layers. I am looking forward to getting more banties in the spring. They are great egg layers, egg sitters, and free rangers.

This Week’s Questions:

  1. What winter preps do you have planned?
  2. Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy?
  3. What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why?

Tara Dodrill

About Tara Dodrill

Tara Dodrill is a homesteading and survival journalist and author. She lives on a small ranch with her family in Appalachia. She has been both a host and frequent guest on preparedness radio shows. In addition to the publication of her first book, 'Power Grid Down: How to Prepare, Survive, and Thrive after the Lights go Out', Dodrill also travels to offer prepping tips and hands-on training and survival camps and expos.
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74 thoughts on “What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 72: November 24th 2019 – November 30th 2019

  1. This Week’s Questions:

    1. What winter preps do you have planned? Fill more buckets!

    2. Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy? Occasionally. They have cheap storage jars (2-quart & 3) that seal up with a little wax paper and rubber cement.

    3. What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why? No chicken yet.

    This week…

    Can prepping pay? So far 3 23+pound turkeys, ice cream, and pumpkin pie for free, just by buying my supplies at the right time (the turkeys went to needy family/friends). And we are not hosting this year.

    I found that Meprolight makes green tritium 3-dot adjustable sights for S&W revolvers, K, L, & N frame. I have 3 that I would like to sight-up with them. I’ll get my gunsmith to install my 1st set for me and see how I like them, then order more.

    Got the plumbing done and the wall built in the basement. More storage!

    Black Friday was 10 degrees and snowing. No “bargains” worth going out in that! Did a little on-line.

    Supply Run: Beans; barley; oatmeal;

    Received: S&W sights; CPAP mask cleaning machine

  2. I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. Ours was white and we are truly thankful that everyone arrived safe and sound. Today should be a good travel day for those going back.

    Preps were a bit lean due to the massive cooking effort but I did manage to finish the stocking for the youngest member of the family. I need to finalize other gifts and purchase some of the prepping gifts. I noticed my DIL had a backpack in the trunk that needs replacing so as to add some space for the baby items needed. Does anyone have a recommendation? I think lots of inside zipped pockets would be ideal.
    Tara’s questions:
    1. Most of our winter preps are already in place. November usually ushers in the snow and single digit temperatures. I spend much of my time in the sewing room.
    2. The next town over has a Dollar store which I sometimes stop in at.
    3. No chickens. My favorite niece has chickens so we trade.

    Stay safe everyone.

  3. Thor+1

    What winter preps do you have planned?
    Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy?
    What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why?

    1. Puppy is now in phase 2 of training hitting targets on command. He had some turkey for Thanksgiving and some sweet potatoes and a small piece of pumpkin pie. Then he slept like a puppy…..

      Garden
      Added another grow light indoors
      The highbred lemon tree is blooming indoors, it is self pollinating.(50 blooms)
      Planted herbs and more indoor lettuce

      Security
      Finished the first ghost gun will test soon
      Joined a new gun range

      Food
      Freeze dried turkey and Thanksgiving leftovers( (I haven’t tried cranberry sauce yet)
      Made 4lbs of jerky
      20 lbs of rice

      Water
      2 cases

      Thor’s questions:

      1. When SHTF, do you think hungry people will try to take your food?
      2. Are you ready for the lights to go out in winter?
      3. Who will you vote for in 2020 ?
      4. How close do you think SHTF is with China, Russia, NK, Iran or here?

      1. ‘Thor1,

        Puppy had a better Thanksgiving meal that I did!… Lol

        Do you keep your lemon tree inside the house now that it’s cold, or in the garage? What kind is it? Did you mean hybrid? Or is it really a highbred tree (talking royalty here)?

        Do you have a room set up for your indoor plants? Hydroponics or soil? What are you going to fertilize with?

        1. AT,

          Puppy loved the deep fried turkey. He ate right next to the table on a paper plate for more pack inclusion.

          Yes, I move the lemon tree inside and have the garden setup in a southern bay window area. The surviving avocado tree is there. I’ve gotten 2 lemons so far…..This brings up another question of hybrid vs heritage.

          I use fruit spikes for fertilizer for the trees.

          Looking at a greenhouse and may put a hydroponics system next year.

      2. Thor’s questions:

        1. When SHTF, do you think hungry people will try to take your food?

        Sure, if they know I have some. Wouldn’t you?

        2. Are you ready for the lights to go out in winter?

        I try to always be ready for lights out. Luckily, here in FLA, power outages in winter are not as dangerous, health-wise, as up north.

        3. Who will you vote for in 2020?

        Probably Trump.

        4. How close do you think SHTF is with China, Russia, NK, Iran or here?

        China is taking a beating economically by Trump. Their little problem in Hong Kong is not helping them either. I’m surprised they haven’t kicked out all of the foreign reporters and cut the Internet. Trump is forcing China to use their hard money. China can reduce their cash drain by shutting down their foreign interference operations (such as the Confucius Institute), reduce their spy agencies, stop building islands in the South China Sea, and cut their military and space program down. Cuts like trying to build aircraft carriers that can’t come close to competing against an American carrier strike group, and STOL fighters to operate from those carriers (development of which is not as happy as the Chinese make it out to be).

        NK is always on the brink of some kind of SHTF event. If China goes economically belly-up, NK is going to have a real problem.

        Iran is obviously having internal issues. Unlike Hong Kong, foreign reporters are banned and the Internet mostly shut off. So the internal security forces have essentially a free hand to do what they want without the world yelling at them. The world suspects, but proof is short.

        Russia I don’t think is hurting too badly. They are sticking their nose into things best left alone.

        1. Z36, with the military exercises between these countries I don’t know. You think Russia could trust China or Iran as allies after what Germany did in WW2 ?

          1. Thor1,

            I don’t think any of those countries trusts each other. As long as each of their countries national interests are being served (or the leaders pocketbooks are full enough), they will play nice. If that dynamic changes, then no, full on distrust comes back.

            You can bet your road block that Russia has not forgotten Germany’s betrayal. Although,a few years down the road, Russia would have probably done the same dirty trick on Germany.

          2. Zulu 3-6,

            You can bet your road block that Russia has not forgotten Germany’s betrayal. Although, a few years down the road, Russia would have probably done the same dirty trick on Germany.

            Probably? Considering what they both did to Poland in 1939 based on the secret additional protocol” of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, I think that’s a definitely. Two scorpions in a jar, they were.

      3. Question 1 Absolutely, people will do whatever to get food hungry people, are a out of control people.

        Question 2. We are as ready as we can be if the lights go out we still have a wood burning fireplace, and lots of candles.

        Questions 3 I know whom I’m voting for I stay out of politics, for the most part and vote for the lesser of the stupid people.

        Question 4 I wouldn’t know.

        1. generally a good policy, there was a south park cartoon years ago which had the school voting for a new mascot after peta harrassed them to get rid of the cow mascot, the kids then did a write in for choosing either a giant douche or a turd sandwich, it was a heated election then in the end the peta encampment was shot to pieces by puff daddy after they threw paint on his new coat so the school went back to using the cow mascot, the point of the satire was that everyone should vote, but it was misread by most that it doesn’t matter who you vote for, its going to be horrible either way,just pick the least horrible one. as they said in the cartoon “every election in history has been between some douche and some turd, there the only ones who suck up enough to get that far in politics”

          i had a truck during the last election and it was really heated with everyone in the area divided on it and demanding to know who i was voting for and then trying to vote like them, so i used spray paint on the wood rack on the sie of my truck that said “vote for the giant douche” everyone left me alone about it after that assuming that i was making fun of the candidate they were against. i supported Trump but this being ny the only votes that count are the city votes, they simply out vote the entire rest of the state the way the system goes so upstate votes don’t count, so i didn’t bother to vote, knowing the system was set up that my vote wouldn’t matter.

          i only openly support Trump now because it pisses off a lot of the lazy dumbasses that annoy me around my town.

      4. Thor1’s questions:

        1. Hungry people: 1st they will try. Then they will have the government try to take it from the nasty hoarders (who bought it in bulk before it was scarce – another story).

        2. Yes! The sooner the better. Thin the herd!

        3. I don’t know that I’ll have to. The Dems all have holes in their feet. It’s like they are doing everything they can to re-elect Trump, so they will have something to complain about.

        4. China has plenty of problems if you look, and a lot more if the world stops buying their stuff. Russia is still a mess, just not as noticeable. NK HAS to start something, they are lost without enemies. Iran wants to start something, but can’t get it together enough to pick on someone they can beat.

      5. 1. Not many people know I have much except for the neighbors who know I garden and can. Many of them also put up food. As for wandering hoards, if transportation works yes we will have a problem. But we are several days away from the populated front range if people need to walk.
        2. Yes. It frequently does from high winds.
        3. Don’t know.
        4. I worry about some type of cyber-swan event.

      6. thors questions

        i doubt it, thanks to food predjudices most people wouldn’t want what i got anyway, nobody seems to like coon and turnips. out here nobody messes wit my place, i stood off against some of the most notoroius lowlifes in the county and scared them off (i’m talking jail hardened drug dealers who did time for shooting people before). everyone kind of avoids going near my place.

        i live off grid, and if something happens to my solar array and generators i still have enough kerosine to last a year and a half in lamps, then a year in candles and then i can just render fat from coons, i calculate i would need 16 coons per year to meet my need for candles.

        Trump, i got a big sign in front of my place that says “TRUMP 2020, make liberals cry again” made the sign with a 1x12x6, bright organge reflective marker paint and black paint so its high visibility at night to passing cars. this makes me very unpopular in my area.

        very far away

          1. Thor1,

            Good for you, the liberals think we can’t express our opinion and thats funny because we are the majority.

            What’s funny is that the libs don’t realize we’re the majority, or that calling us names will keep us from voting.
            What will be really funny is them stammering next November when they start counting votes and wondering where they went wrong – again!!!
            Probably blame the Russians again. LOL
            One good thing is that Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer will help the Trump economy even more by spending millions on their losing campaigns.

      7. Thor1,
        1. When SHTF, do you think hungry people will try to take your food?
        Some may; but, it would be a bad choice.
        2. Are you ready for the lights to go out in winter?
        Yes, for about 30 seconds.
        3. Who will you vote for in 2020 ?
        It’s a secret ballot; but, I think most can guess, and it ain’t a socialist.
        4. How close do you think SHTF is with China, Russia, NK, Iran or here?
        It depends on your definition of SHTF.

  4. I did my low-carb grocery shopping this week. Added a little to my stash as usual. Did some weekly cooking.

    I’ve been Christmas shopping this week and got everything done. I bought a pair of First Alert fire extinguishers for each household (including mine), and every adult is getting a solar panel and battery pack combo.

    Granddaughter is getting several things including a 3-D Solar System thing that can hang from her bedroom ceiling and glows in the dark. She is very interested in stars, the moon, and sun. She observed all on her own, well over a year ago, that the moon changes shape and position in the sky throughout the month and can be seen sometimes at night and sometimes during the day. She also seems to understand why and how we have day and night. I think she is still coming to grips with the why and how of seasons. Maybe I will get her an Oak tree seedling in a pot and she can play at being a Druid. 😊

    Other than being a busy first half of the week watching granddaughter (no school, Thanksgiving break). Thanksgiving dinner was changed from the Ex’s house, to #2 daughter’s house in Jacksonville. A good time was had by all. We had a traditional turkey dinner and #2 daughter cooked everything from scratch, and it was excellent. Even my Ex was impressed with the cooking (and she can be really picky). Spent the night there, helped fix a nice old semi-antique table lamp, cleaned three pistols (mine, Ex’s, and #2 daughter’s) and headed home. The Ex returned my old S&W Model 60 snubbie (which needs cleaning, of course). I was exhausted by the time I got back. I hate driving long distances.

    The only other thing of any real importance I had to do this weekend was watch the Michigan v. Ohio State game. I think I’m going to poison myself. I wonder if my Ex has any hemlock.

    This Week’s Questions:
    1. What winter preps do you have planned?

    Nothing special really. Since winter here in Florida is not northern nasty (which I ran away from), it’s just a matter of making sure the hoodies and jackets are clean, and my fleece watch caps are good to go (got to keep my bald little head warm).

    2. Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy?

    I go in once in a while, but not necessarily for anything specific.

    3. What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why?

    Tyson’s. It’s already fed, killed, plucked, gutted, and chilled. 😊

      1. Thor1,

        Sports-wise I’m really taking a beating. The Detroit Lions are pathetic, the Red Wings are too, don’t even mention the Tigers. The Pistons can loose all they want, I don’t like basketball. Michigan State is disappointing, UMich was the only hope for a bright spot and they blew it against OSU.

        Oh, woe is me.

        1. Z36, I watched the Lion vs Bears game on Thanksgiving and it was a great game except i also was rooting for the Lions…..🙁

  5. Hi Everyone,

    We’ve had some rather rainy weather the last day or so. The wind is a howling out there today, but the sun is shining, if only for a little while. Temps set to drop 20 degrees by this afternoon.

    Finally got the spare bedroom bed set up yesterday with the help of my “moving guy”. I also rounded up cans that were scattered throughout and put them in the “food” room. I also went through some cans and discarded. I’ve found out by taste test that the “cream of” soups don’t taste good after a couple of years or so after date. I’ve located my curtain rods and will be putting up curtains in the food room today to block the sun from ruining the items on the shelf.

    Had to cancel work under the house this weekend because of all the rain. Flooding around the house doesn’t make a good work space to have to cut wood and crawl under the house with. Next weekend hoping to continue.

    Spent a bit of time looking at water storage options with the help of brother and another willing to discuss and mention options with me, and am still studying on it, learning much.

    Will be canning apples today and making some potato soup. Warm soup on a blustery day makes for some good eatin’.

    Bought some more meat for the freezer. With the food shortages here, it’s time to stock up even more.

    Will be interesting to see what happens on the 4th. Not looking forward to the drama. This has gone way too far and we are in a sad place for our country right now. Much prayer is needed for America.

    Prayers for those in need and unspoken spoken requests. Prayers for people needing peace and strength.

    Hope you all have a great week.

    1. I forgot Tara’s question’s….

      What winter preps do you have planned? Organizing, dehydrating.
      Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy? DT – Yes, all kinds of things, soap, shelf stable milk, salt, spices.
      What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why? Don’t have any chickens.

    2. Thanks, for sharing on the cream soup, I usually only buy mushroom, but I have a couple of chicken cream soup I’ll remember this. I know most people, say canned food has a longer shelf life but I’ve ran into bad food, I usually don’t keep my canned for more than a year out of date, no matter what brand it is.

      1. Mom of three,

        I have started checking the food I buy at DT because I have found “modified” food there. For canned meat, I always try to find “Product of USA”, but it is getting difficult these days with the way they are allowed to label food. The canned chicken I used to get at Aldi’s, now only says “distributed by”. The ones I buy at WM have “Product of USA” on them.

        My kitty got a treat this weekend. I opened a can of tuna, and he LOVES the juice and ate 3 bowls of tuna.

    1. We had Thanksgiving dinner with family on Tuesday. Big ham dinner. I bought a turkey…not real cheap but not bad for meat source. I cooked and canned most of the turkey, part of the sliced ham, boiled turkey carcas and canned 2 at as broth and the rest as turkey veg soup. I canned veggies in pt jar using turkey broth. Also canned a pint of homemade cranberry and orange relish and a pint of leftover ham and split pea soup. That’s three more cases of jars of food. Mostly meats to add…
      I’ll see what’s cheap at grocery or S1 stores when I get into town tomorrow. I have a big bag of potatoes left after a houseful of company. I may just can some pints while the canner is still in the house. I hate to see food go bad that I can save and it’s handy for us in pints. I did can most of the turkey in quarts. But it can be several different meals for a few days and will be fine. It’s hard just cooking for two after years of cooking for a big family. A quart of turkey will make:
      1. turkey and gravy with mashed potatoes and a salad,
      2. a chef’s salad with Turkey, boiled egg, and shredded raw veggies on a bed of lettuce or micro greens from the shelf by the window,
      3. spaghetti with Turkey meatballs held together with egg and bread crumbs. Add a side salad and a couple of slices of garlic bread
      4. A casserole of bread dressing with turkey and more gravy and a side veggie or a sprouts salad, add 1 large lightly buttered mashed boiled sweet potato with a sprinkler or freshly ground sea salt.
      5. pasta shells with a sauce of milk, egg, and cheese, stir in frozen green peas, and turkey. Bake till warm. Micro greens and homemade Italian (or purchased) dressing
      That’s 5 dinners from a pretty well packed quart jar of mixed light and dark turkey.
      It could just as easy be:
      1. a turkey and green chili stew made with 2 fresh roasted-peeled-chopped New Mexico green chili’s, 1 or 2 buds of smashed garlic, 1/4 cup diced onion, 1/4 cup chopped celery, 2 or 3 diced medium russet potatoes and 1/4 bunch fresh cilantro stems and all chopped. Saute the first 4 ingredients till onions are translucent. Put Sauteed seasonings in pot. Add potatoes and chopped cilantro. Cover with water or broth and add 1/4 teaspoon of salt. Cooked till potatoes are tender. Add chopped, cooked, turkey and reheat. Simmer 10 minutes. Check seasonings and salt if desired. Add a few leaves of cilantro for garnish on each bowl. Serve with a crusty bread.
      2. Turkey tortilla soup. 3 cups of chicken broth,1/4 teaspoon red chili flakes, and 3 tablespoons of tomato paste or a 4 oz can of tomato sauce. OR 3 cups water with 2 level teaspoons powdered Mexican style tomato bullion. Saute 1 bulb Smashed garlic, 1/4 cup diced onion, in 1 tbsp oil. Cook till translucent and add to broth. Add 1/2 cup corn kernels canned or fresh or 1 ear of corn cut in 1 inch round slices and add to broth. Finely dice 1/4 cup carrot. Add to broth. Chop 1/4-1/2 cup celery. Add to broth and bring broth to a simner. Cook 15 minutes. Add 1/2 cup chopped, cooked turkey. Check for salt. Simmer 5 minutes more. Quickly cut 2 tortillas into narrow strips and fry crisp. Stir into soup. Serve with a dollop of sour cream on top. 2 generous servings. Husband likes a slice of apple pie with this meal.
      3. Chopped turkey in green chili gravy over a pan of cornbread dressing and a side of steamed broccoli with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice. A green chili enchilada sauce is ok.
      4. Turkey in red chili possole. A crusty bread
      5. Turkey enchiladas with a red or green chili sauce and grated sharp chedar cheese. Serve with a side of black beans and Spanish rice and garnish with lettuce and tomato for a pretty plate. Offer finely chopped onion and sour cream as toppings. Canned enchilada sauce makes this fast and tasty.
      Enchiladas: steam or quickly fry 6 corn tortillas to soften them. Layer with sauteed onions and warmed chopped turkey. Add 1 tablespoon if sauce on each tortilla and meat, onion, and cover qith grated cheese. Stack three tortillas with 2 layers or three layers of fillings. Always ending with cheese on top. Generously our more sauce over the top. A minute under a broiler is nice but not necessary. Serve with warm Spanish rice and black beans. Garnish with A small bed of shredded lettuce topped with sliced or diced tomatoes. Offer sour cream and diced Spanish onions or green onions.

      1. Clergylady,
        You really seem to like chili’s, something we rarely use; but, to each their own.
        Using tortillas instead of bread however, is also something we do, since it’s a lot less filling that bread, and leaves more room for the real food.

  6. We stayed home this Thanksgiving holiday, after the last two year’s in California, dealing with my mother in law, we needed to be close as a family this year. November 30th, was our 23 rd anniversary so hubby and I went and used a gift certificate to a local restaurant, and the big goof, bought me the November’s birth stone in a ring it’s Beautiful, I really don’t need more jewelry, but this year I let it slide because I have returned jewellery, in the past because I didn’t need it. Both kid’s thanked me for a wonderful Turkey dinner, and thanked their dad, for providing me the money to buy it:) Our daughter, is doing really well on her computer school, passing classes 100 percent, which for her is a great deal, she really struggled with school in the pass and I’ll tell you this program she’s doing is not easy in the least so being an older student, she’s doing better then if she would have done this program like 3 year’s ago at 16, she should be finished by January of 2020.

    I started to clean and getting the decorations out I have my tree up and all the branches ready to decorate. Tomorrow, is payday so today I’m going through and only buying what we need. I’m getting a box together for my mother in law, of a few favorite tea’s and cookies and more toothpaste, and item’s like that.

    Questions 1 We have done all our Winterized projects, the biggest is the Travel trailer, we can’t have it get ruined ever again it cost us so much money and time it was ridiculous, but we use it for our office during the Spring/Summer, and early Autumn, we have it covered up by October 1.

    Question 2 Yes, I like the dollar tree. I buy the Reynolds wraps, 25 in a pack. I usually buy 2 at a time they last me a couple of month’s and they are good size to wrap and freeze or just to put over a bowl in the fridge. Shelf stable milk, by Gossners, they have Whole, 1 and 2 percent milk, I get at least 4 at a time they have between 10 and 11 month’s sell by date and I do use them they come in handy. I just bought 4 bowls, and up by the register they have Crocs, it’s a mini lighter, it comes in different colors, they light every time I need them and they’re compact enough to carry in a purse, or a bug out bag, I
    leave one in our vehicle too and carry one on my purse.

    Question 3 No Chicken, no room to have them.

    1. I buy several cans of chicken and ham at the dollar tree, the ham, is salty so I drain it and give it a rinse before I use it in sandwich making and in soups , the chicken is not to bad and I give the cat a bit of the juice for a treat.

  7. tara’s questions

    nothing really, just logging and firewood stuff but thats a large part of my yearly plans anyway.

    i used to shop at American Dollar but theywent out of business then i would go to Dollar Tree, but they cut back on everything i would have bought so there isn’t much reason to bother now. but when they had it i would buy bandages and over the counter stuff like asprin, they sed to have an entire isle for that stuff now its just one little shelf and most of whats there isn’t worth bothering with.

    i keep 2, bff orpingtons and a bantam of unknown breed, i think wadanote but can’t be sure. buffs lay large brown eggs and have often gone broody, just this week i butchered a grop of surplus roosters and canned the meat, so the chicks replace old birds, i sell chicks and hathing eggs, and i eat srplus roosters. the bantams always go broody several times a season an can hatch out a lot of chicks, taking very little room in cages to raise them in cooler weather so i give them buff eggs to hatch and only bantam eeggs when i need to replace older birds, chicks don’t sell for much and roosters too small to bother eating, eggs sell for pickling sometimes

    i did a lot of firewood and log cutting this week, have a stack of firewood 6 feet tall, 2 rows deep and 70 feet long long, also burned all the branches. my neighbor who got a spike horn buck on my land last week gave me a bucnh of the meat an i canned it up (what i can’t use fresh anyway) and butchered a bunch of surplus roosters since i was doing canning that day. also got a lot of logs cut to size and ready to take to the mill but can’t till spring as the guy who tows my wagon to the amish mill won’t do it in winter since the amis don’t plow and their driveways are horrible in winter. oh and i gave all the chicken waste to the dogs, they are the bones, the feet, the heads, the organs, etc and when that was done they even ate a lot of the feathers. i don’t open range and te birds are in a large secure run so its ok if they develope a taste for chicken, they can’t get them unless i give it to them.

    totally exhausted right now and very deydrated, was working from sun up to sun down today running chainsaw, gathering and stacking firewood, and piling branches, all without any breaks and not having eaten or drank anything at all since yesterday. was too concerned over getting the work done and was too lazy to take a break.

    nemo setos questions

    if you have dogs and livestock do you give waste from butchering to the dogs? raw bones are safe, cooked bones can kill.

    have you ever worked none stop all day because you were too lazy to go cook lunch or get water? i keep doing that.

    1. Question 1. When we had dogs, back in the 1980’s Mom would go to the butcher shop and he would give her a big bag of bones, as a treat now at our local store they are starting to sell the bones, I don’t remember how much but I just said no thanks they were probably to much anyway.

      Question 2, not me but my husband, had and still does on occasion I get after him to eat and drink. I do pack him a lunch, if they are going to be far away from any stores. I sometimes forget to drink water, in the winter we need to drink more.

      1. used to be cheap for meat ends too, about 15 years ago i cold get meat ends for 50 cents a lb, they were the ugly left over butts from deli meat and cheese, very ard to make sandwiches out of them but not impossible. then the places that were selling them just to be rid off them noticed people with little money bought them often so jacked up the price to be on par with regular deli meat average thinking it was now a specialty item rather than just selling the junk to cut back on waste and squeeze a little more out. was getting meat ends for $2 a lb more recently at a smaller place but i rarely go there anymoe since i got moldy stuff a few times from them. i suspect thats what will happen with those chicken bones at the store, at first its to sqeeze some money out of a waste product then they will call it a specialty item for making soup and ack te price up.

  8. We had Thanksgiving dinner with family on Tuesday. Big ham dinner. I bought a turkey…not real cheap but not bad for meat source. I cooked and canned most of the turkey, part of the sliced ham, boiled turkey carcas and canned 2 at as broth and the rest as turkey veg soup. I canned veggies in pt jar using turkey broth. Also canned a pint of homemade cranberry and orange relish and a pint of leftover ham and split pea soup. That’s three more cases of jars of food. Mostly meats to add…
    I’ll see what’s cheap at grocery or S1 stores when I get into town tomorrow. I have a big bag of potatoes left after a houseful of company. I may just can some pints while the canner is still in the house. I hate to see food go bad that I can save and it’s handy for us in pints. I did can most of the turkey in quarts. But it can be several different meals for a few days and will be fine. It’s hard just cooking for two after years of cooking for a big family. A quart of turkey will make:
    1. turkey and gravy with mashed potatoes and a salad,
    2. a chef’s salad with Turkey, boiled egg, and shredded raw veggies on a bed of lettuce or micro greens from the shelf by the window,
    3. spaghetti with Turkey meatballs held together with egg and bread crumbs. Add a side salad and a couple of slices of garlic bread
    4. A casserole of bread dressing with turkey and more gravy and a side veggie or a sprouts salad, add 1 large lightly buttered mashed boiled sweet potato with a sprinkler or freshly ground sea salt.
    5. pasta shells with a sauce of milk, egg, and cheese, stir in frozen green peas, and turkey. Bake till warm. Micro greens and homemade Italian (or purchased) dressing
    That’s 5 dinners from a pretty well packed quart jar of mixed light and dark turkey.
    It could just as easy be:
    1. a turkey and green chili stew made with 2 fresh roasted-peeled-chopped New Mexico green chili’s, 1 or 2 buds of smashed garlic, 1/4 cup diced onion, 1/4 cup chopped celery, 2 or 3 diced medium russet potatoes and 1/4 bunch fresh cilantro stems and all chopped. Saute the first 4 ingredients till onions are translucent. Put Sauteed seasonings in pot. Add potatoes and chopped cilantro. Cover with water or broth and add 1/4 teaspoon of salt. Cooked till potatoes are tender. Add chopped, cooked, turkey and reheat. Simmer 10 minutes. Check seasonings and salt if desired. Add a few leaves of cilantro for garnish on each bowl. Serve with a crusty bread.
    2. Turkey tortilla soup. 3 cups of chicken broth,1/4 teaspoon red chili flakes, and 3 tablespoons of tomato paste or a 4 oz can of tomato sauce. OR 3 cups water with 2 level teaspoons powdered Mexican style tomato bullion. Saute 1 bulb Smashed garlic, 1/4 cup diced onion, in 1 tbsp oil. Cook till translucent and add to broth. Add 1/2 cup corn kernels canned or fresh or 1 ear of corn cut in 1 inch round slices and add to broth. Finely dice 1/4 cup carrot. Add to broth. Chop 1/4-1/2 cup celery. Add to broth and bring broth to a simner. Cook 15 minutes. Add 1/2 cup chopped, cooked turkey. Check for salt. Simmer 5 minutes more. Quickly cut 2 tortillas into narrow strips and fry crisp. Stir into soup. Serve with a dollop of sour cream on top. 2 generous servings. Husband likes a slice of apple pie with this meal.
    3. Chopped turkey in green chili gravy over a pan of cornbread dressing and a side of steamed broccoli with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice. A green chili enchilada sauce is ok.
    4. Turkey in red chili possole. A crusty bread
    5. Turkey enchiladas with a red or green chili sauce and grated sharp chedar cheese. Serve with a side of black beans and Spanish rice and garnish with lettuce and tomato for a pretty plate. Offer finely chopped onion and sour cream as toppings. Canned enchilada sauce makes this fast and tasty.
    Enchiladas: steam or quickly fry 6 corn tortillas to soften them. Layer with sauteed onions and warmed chopped turkey. Add 1 tablespoon if sauce on each tortilla and meat, onion, and cover qith grated cheese. Stack three tortillas with 2 layers or three layers of fillings. Always ending with cheese on top. Generously our more sauce over the top. A minute under a broiler is nice but not necessary. Serve with warm Spanish rice and black beans. Garnish with A small bed of shredded lettuce topped with sliced or diced tomatoes. Offer sour cream and diced Spanish onions or green onions.

    1. I’m cooking the Turkey carcass up today I’m gonna make Homemade Turkey and Homemade noodles, for tomorrow’s dinner. Turkey is not my favorite meat, but you gotta do and eat what’s provided.

  9. Hi folks. Been quite a while since I stopped in, and have missed you. I decided over a year ago to cut back on most social sites, at the same time decided we were about as prepped as it makes sense for us in Hawaii with a house which will blow away in a hurricane and take any preps we haven’t stashed in our vehicles, as well as deciding to work toward selling the house and moving to the Mainland. Not much reason to add a lot of stuff just to ship it or leave it.

    So we haven’t given up on prepping by any means, just maintaining now rather than adding.

    1) What winter preps do you have planned? Getting the house ready to sell so we can depart the People’s Republic of Paradise aka Hawaii. I replaced the floor in the kitchen closet, which had long ago been wiped out by termites. Previous owners had tented the house, as have we, so the bugs were gone but so was the floor. I made a pattern with sheets of newspaper, cut a piece of plywood to fit, laid it down and nailed it in place. Added some plywood shelves in back to help organize, which has been a very big help. Then painted the whole interior white so it is easier to see stuff. Also hung an electric lantern inside as the closet is in a dark corner. We have several for camping and emergencies so might as well ‘store’ one where it is useful more often.

    Now I have to replace the floor of the sink cabinet in the guest bathroom as the pipe leaked for some time unnoticed and wiped out the plywood. It’s an old house with built in cabinets, so no way to simply or cheaply replace the whole unit.

    2) Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? Rarely. The nearest one shut down a year or two ago.

    3) What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why? We have feral chickens which poke around for bugs in the yard. I have no idea if they are the Hawaiian jungle fowl or some later introduced breed. Sometimes we’ll see twelve or fifteen at a time, especially when the eggs hatch. If seriously hard times come, I expect they’ll disappear pretty fast.

    I’m still going to the Aloha Stadium swap meet (flea market) most Sundays before dawn. Things have slowed down considerably there but now and then I find something more than fruit and vegetables. Today I picked up a 7 quart cast iron Dutch oven, blue enameled. I dislike the upkeep on the black iron cast iron, but like the enameled ones. It’s on the stove already, turning a left over ham bone into split pea soup.

    We made a few additions to the stash in our Mainland BOL aka a family member’s place. It is our official BOL as the owners are preppers and have invited us to rendezvous if need be and possible. We keep our Mainland camping gear there anyway, much of which might be useful in a major emergency, and have been adding supplies. Our thinking is that while a quick onset disaster might well prevent us from getting there, if we can that’s great and if we can’t, then family can use our stuff.

    Thinking of the People’s Republic of Paradise aka Democratic Nanny State: we went out for dinner a few weeks ago. I ordered a hamburger medium rare. The waitron or whatever we’re supposed to call him said I’d have to sign a release for less than medium rare.

    My DW thought he was kidding but after taking our orders he left and returned with a release form about the size of a credit card stapled to the back of the order. I had to sign and print my name acknowledging the Possibility of Calamitous Possibilities from eating ‘undercooked’ meat. State regulation, apparently.

    I grew up in Wisconsin, where steak tartare Is popular. I went through a childhood period of steak tartare every night for dinner. By some incredibly small chance I’m still alive. So the Wise, Benevolent, and Beatific Legislature has dumped one more burden on local businesses without curing any alleged problem.

    Sign a release to order a hamburger medium rare. Really.

    1. Penrod-
      Glad you are getting closer to your Mainland move.
      Here in cattle country the preference is for medium rare or rare. No signature required.

    2. Penrod,
      First of all it’s good to see you here. We’ve been wondering about your situation; but, since some of us were banned (yes persona non grata) from that other site, it was impossible for anyone to go there and point you here.

      So we haven’t given up on prepping by any means, just maintaining now rather than adding.

      Since you plan to make a big move that will involve more than just cars, and a rental truck, not acquiring too much extra is probably a good idea, since you can save your cash and start again here fresh.

      Your mention of termites doesn’t surprise me, since when we visited my sister, stationed there in 2008, the house she lived in was nearly all concrete and treated lumber, and she said the lumber cost was horrible, since it’s all shipped from the mainland.

      2) Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? Rarely. The nearest one shut down a year or two ago.

      That doesn’t surprise me. On our vacation we went into a Subway sandwich shop, and I asked them about the promotion being run back here on the mainland, the ”$5.00 foot long” and the guy looked at me like I was from Mars.

      Thinking of the People’s Republic of Paradise aka Democratic Nanny State: we went out for dinner a few weeks ago. I ordered a hamburger medium rare. The waitron or whatever we’re supposed to call him said I’d have to sign a release for less than medium rare.

      I hate to say this; but, that sort of makes sense for ground meats, since there have been too many contamination problems, where nasty stuff from a little bit of meat can get mixed into a large batch. We see recalls here on the mainland more often than we should. Now if they had that same release form for a rare steak, they are crazy.
      I like rare or even raw hamburger on occasion, so what we do is take some larger cuts of our freezer beef and grind it to order. Eaten raw with mustard and a slice of onion as a sandwich is something I grew up with and like, that we called a cannibal sandwich.

      I grew up in Wisconsin, where steak tartare Is popular. I went through a childhood period of steak tartare every night for dinner. By some incredibly small chance I’m still alive.

      As someone who has worked with beef for most of my life, there is a significant difference between steak tartar and hamburger tartar, since it’s nearly impossible to infect the center of a steak with salmonella or E Coli, that can be too easily ground into the burger.

      In any case, it’s great to see you here, where this weekly column is pretty much actually weekly, so we can follow your adventures once again as you make your move back here.

  10. This has been a busy week. We had DW family in for Thanksgiving. She cooked a big turkey, got a honey baked ham, a whole lot of corn on the cob and her sister and her family brought cakes and potatoes and green beans and niece and her family came and brought carmelized pecans that were really good. When we shopped at Sam’s the days prior DW picked up a big pack of to go boxes so after dinner we equipped everyone with a full to go box and sent them on their way. Not all that much leftovers for us to deal with.

    I shopped on Amazon picked up 2 more 15 gallon water containers that are waiting to be bleached out and filled and put into the shelter. I also ordered a Bofeng UV-5R kit that came with the radio, 2 batteries, drop in battery charger, 3 antennas, microphone and earbud, programming cable and software and an instruction booklet for $45 with free shipping. When it arrived the box was banded “new series” 2 pack and the radio is marked as Greval. I have charged it up and had it on but the local repeaters are extremely quite. I heard a couple of auto IDs but no traffic. Not sure if 2 meters and 440 are totally dead in this area or not.

    Friday we woke up and thought about going Black Friday shopping. Went back to bed and watched TV. Late in the evening we went to Academy Sports and I picked up a Heritage single action cowboy pistol in .22 LR and it also came with a .22 mag cylinder. The longest part of the shopping was standing in line with the guy from the gun counter who had to carry the pistol to the check out stand and hand it to them before I could buy it. The place was busy.

    Saturday I blew leaves around in the yard. Was going to go buy a Husquarvna back pack blower, probably the 150 model but decided it wouldn’t be worth it for the few times I have to seriously blow leaves and will probably go and get a new battery for the lawn tractor and mulch the heck out of all the leaves on the ground.

    Saturday night was a Christian comedian and desert table at church. We went, ate deserts and sang Christmas carols and then the comedian Tony Wolf did his show. He’s very funny and has some you tube videos of his act. We got home late full of desert. This morning we had to be up at 4am to take a fried to the air port. Atlanta airport, as usual was packed to the gills but they are very efficient and we got home in time to rest for a few minutes and then head out to church. DW was cooking for the biscuit ministry (they cook breakfast items in the church kitchen, sell them and everyone gets fed and the various ministries get funding help. We went to first service and then had to stay around to decorate the church. We brought hotdogs and buns to share and boiled them and then kept them hot in the crock pot. We enjoyed second service and then ate and decorated the church with all the Christmas trappings. Home to a nap and now, here we are.

    I am anxiously awaiting Amazons cyber Monday for stuff that I might want/need. We need to go to Big Lots and pick up some net lights for the shrubs out front.

    As always, keep prepping, keep smiling, remember that all your neighbors are not necessarily your friends and you can’t always depend on them to have your back when things go bad.

    TOP, I am a little active on eHam.net and posted in the Elmer forum asking if anyone knew my old SK Elmer, Charlie Jackson, SV0AA, who brought me up right in the early 1980’s when I was stationed on Crete and he was in Athens. Found someone who knew him/met him in person, and it was like old home week. It’s easy to forget some of the people who made you the way you are and once they are SK it’s too late to tell them thanks! So, TOP I want to tell you thanks for your kind words, good advice and your way of always staying on point.

  11. Finished my Christmas shopping before Thanksgiving. Just a few things for each person, all the same — a headlamp, a pair of “cord corrals” (small leather strip with snaps on the end, to corral a phone or tablet cord when you roll it up for transport or storage), and everyone gets a pint jug of maple syrup. Black Friday shopping — a couple of packages of DayQuil tablets and a couple of rolls of Gorilla tape. I know, very exciting.

    Bought a couple of cans of chili to start rebuilding the canned-goods stash we ate down a couple of weeks ago. Need to go through my stash and see what else needs to be used up.

    Tara’s questions: Winter preps are pretty well done. I should clean up the front garden, but it’s supposed to snow tomorrow and Tuesday, so that may have to wait.

    I do shop for preps at Dollar Tree — matches, lighters and those long fireplace lighters; rain ponchos; candles; I do like the boxes of Reynolds foil sheets; reader eyeglasses — those of us who are “visually challenged” would have trouble without glasses in SHTF; aspirin, bandaids, toothpaste, etc. I’m disappointed that DT no longer carries Pears soap, since it doesn’t irritate my skin, but DH bought me a case of it online when he couldn’t find it for me at ChinaMart (I had checked every other store in our area and couldn’t find it), so I guess I’m set for most of the rest of my life. Good DH!

    No chickens, but after tossing a dozen eggs a few weeks ago that were over a month past their sell-by date, I’m determined to make at least one egg-based breakfast every weekend.

    Also, Bed Bath & Beyond has Bell & Howell battery powered mini-lanterns on sale, $20 for a package of 3 and buy one, get one free. They were out of stock in our local store, but they mail-ordered them for me, I had to pay a few bucks in shipping, but they are plenty bright enough to scatter around the house for an uh-oh the power’s out situation. I believe they can be ordered through the BB&B website.

  12. The wife and I hosted Thanksgiving dinner at our house. I was in charge of the meat, a small turkey and ham and the green bean casserole. She made the cornbread stuffing and made the gravy. Our daughter brought mac and cheese, there was supposed to be rolls but in trying to get the granddaughter ready they were forgotten. Two store bought pies went in stove with the stuffing, at $4 each it was a no brainer. Mrs. Smith makes a mean pie.

    My two older children came up from Orlando to eat with us. They make a two day event out of it. Dinner with us then they spend the night with my Ex and go Black Friday shopping with her. My father in law was also able to make it.

    The main topic of conversation was not politics, my oldest daughter is a liberal college professor so we avoid that subject. We talked about the granddaughter and her antics. I had let her work the backhoe, she liked pulling the levers at first (I was helping) but this is a large machine and it sort of frightened her when I was swinging the hoe side to side. I went over to a pile of dirt is was using for potting soil and loosened it up. She told my wife who was standing nearby, “We digging now”. She has her own method to open car doors, she hangs from the handle and puts her feet against the door and pulls, when the door pops open she drops down, jumps in, locks the doors and starts pushing every button and pulling every lever. It took me ten minutes to figure out how to get the cargo light on my truck to go out when the door is shut after she had been in it.

    Monday I used the backhoe to smooth my orchard spot. I back bladed it for about an hour looking backward. That looking back caused a muscle to spasm in my neck. No much pain sitting up but very annoying trying to sleep. Nothing I have helps the ach so i have only been sleeping about four hours a night. This afternoon it let up and I got several hours in. Next week is going to been cool (temps in the 50’s and 60’s). I need to repair my front wooden ramp and 8×8 ft back deck. Lots of cutting, drilling and painting. No telling what will seize, sucks when your body lets you down. Of course it would be more sucky if I couldn’t do anything at all so I just complain a little bit.

    So Tara’s questions:
    What winter preps do you have planned? Florida, none needed. If a big freeze is forecast will throw a blanket over the pump and aerator.

    Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy? Not seriously buying yet.

    What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why? No chickens but if I feel frisky might get some next spring.

    The tip about cream of something soups going bad is helpful. I have six or seven cans getting old. Need to make more casseroles.

  13. Hello Folks,
    We had very mild weather on Thanksgiving day. Went to my cousins house and had an awesome meal (with leftovers packed up for everyone to take home). Regarding Black Friday shopping, I used to do that when I was younger, but now I would rather sleep in and avoid all the craziness. My cousin put her little cabin (a weekend place) up for sale at the urging of her children. She and husband are no longer able to climb the stairs to the bedrooms upstairs, nor are they able to keep it up. So Friday morning I drove up that way with fami,y to help clear out some furniture and junque. Glad I tagged along as I got a Dutch oven, cast iron skillet, and a twin bed frame. On the way back home, got caught in Black Friday shopper traffic (Holy Cow!) forget that mess!
    As far a prepping this week, I didn’t do a thing.
    1. No winter preps planned this winter. Packing up the house, so it can be put on the market.
    2. I don’t get much at DT. I like their dried milk, dishwashing liquid. Sometimes get plastic food containers. 3. No chicks of any kind on my property at the moment (except myself).
    Regarding Thor’s additions, ‘If people are hungry and can’t get to food, yes they will come.’ No one really knows how much I food preps I have. Regarding lights out, I’m prepared on all fronts. I plan to vote for Trump at the moment. I know he’s not perfect, and I wish he would lose his twitter account at times, and as Forrest Gump would say, ‘That’s all I’m gonna say about that.’ Regarding the last question, I’m currently not worried.
    Hope everyone has a good week!

  14. HI ALL ,,,,,,preps this week , just the normal ranch things , going on two weeks not leaving the place ,almost finished with the 20cord of firewood ,
    As for questions ,what I put up on the thanksgiving round of post covers what to do with hungry people ,
    We like the turkin breed of chicken ,funny naked neck and all ,best free range bird we have had ,winter very well and lay ok when others quit. Will lay without store bough feed . ,hens are good moms ,the rue will guard the chicks ,
    ,ICE AGE FARMER had a good post today ,covering what’s going on with food and farming ,
    Also max swanson was telling it like it is ,
    “There is a force ,an energy, trying to give the impression everything is OK ”
    Well folks AG is in big trouble ,this year was bad but you ain’t seen nothing yet ,
    If you don’t grow it you may not have it , worry less about prep junk and gadgets, and more about supplying your own food ,learn to live with what you can grow , not what you would like ,
    If you can’t grow your food where you are at MOVE ,bug out now ,like a sinking ship if you stay to long you will get sucked under when things go down ,
    We are having much discussion about closing down all production at the ranch that would go into the food chain ,
    And only supplying folks in our group ,

    John Galt is alive and well

    Tea and chocolate,,

    1. Thanks 0oldhomsteader for the IAF mention. Just watched his 2 latest. We all need to prepare for our own food production.

      WM has robot bees to pollinate… WOW… Frightening the control they will have over us. Yes, control food, control the population.

      1. Also picked up his site for measuring GDD (Growing Degree Days) where you can check your location to see if the number has decreased. My area has decreased by 6 days from last year to this year… It’s no joke. Grand Solar Minimum…

        http://iceagefarmer.com/gdd/

  15. Hi Tara, Dan, & all,
    I’m a little late to the party because I didn’t get an email announcement for the new post.

    Happy Thanksgiving, Pack! I hope you enjoyed a bountiful dinner and the loving company of family and friends. Approximately one minute after the Thanksgiving turkey is served each year the grandkiddos become allowed to sign Christmas songs. Doing so before the November holiday always costs them a Christmas present.

    Are they using American Sign Language or one of the others? IN any case, it would make for a much quieter get together. LOL
    AND

    It did not take them long to anticipate when the items were going to be needed, and they gathered them up by themselves without being asked.

    This is a great skill and one some adults haven’t yet mastered. I’ve always seen work go much faster when I can hand or have handed to me the needed part or tool without asking or worse yet, explaining.

    My Buckeye chickens are remaining unimpressive. The hens are as sweet and docile as can be, but they simply are horrible egg layers. I am looking forward to getting more banties in the spring. They are great egg layers, egg sitters, and free rangers.

    I know nothing about Buckeye chickens; but, can tell you that our Rocks (a mix of Barred & White) have been great little birds, and with the exception of the occasional molting, have been consistent egg layers.

    Tara’s Questions
    1. What winter preps do you have planned?
    Nothing much more except to gather in a little more firewood that’s already cut, split, and stacked outside in a pile.
    2. Do you shop Dollar Store for preps? If so, what do you buy?
    We shop the dollar stores all the time, mostly Dollar Tree where things are actually a dollar. My DW loves to go shopping for greeting cards as well as her artificial fingernails @ Dollar General. My last trip to Dollar General was for another Airsoft gun and ammunition, where the cashier actually carded me. I don’t get that much hassle purchasing a real firearm. We otherwise often just wander the aisles looking for things to beef up our preps.
    3. What is your favorite chicken breed to keep, and why?
    We’ve been keeping Barred & White Rocks for about 10 years. They are not very broody, are good foragers, and are good layers of brown eggs. For some reason people not in the know think brown eggs are better than white, and as Phineas Taylor Barnum is alleged to have said: “Never wisen up a sucker”

    TOP’s question
    1. It has been said that age & treachery beats youth and skill every time; but, what would you call this? An 82-year-old female bodybuilder sent an unlucky home invader to the hospital: https://www.insider.com/82-year-old-body-builder-sends-unlucky-home-invader-hospital-2019-11
    2. Did you walk away from your Thanksgiving meal or waddle away?
    3. Thanksgiving leftovers are a staple in America and nothing is more satisfying than piling bits of turkey onto a sandwich to enjoy days after the big feast; however, one in six (about 48 million) people experience food poisoning each year, with about 3,000 each year dyeing from it. Food poisoning happens from exposure to nasty bacteria, usually from food that wasn’t cooked or stored properly. What do you do with your leftovers?

    This week we acquired and did the following.
    1. Received an LAX Rapid Charger 12,000 mAh USB Power Bank from woot.com. I have numerous versions of these all plugged into chargers, so in a power outage we can operate numerous other devices for hours to days.
    2. 2 12-packs of yogurt
    3. A fellow ham came and helped me put up my new dual band (2 meter/70 cm) antenna on the tower to replace the original one eaten by a tree. The old one may still be salvageable, since all of the broken pieces have been recovered and look to be repairable.
    4. Received a 12 pack of Amazon Basics C Cell Batteries from woot.com
    5. Received an Aduro PowerUP Smart 6-Port USB Rapid Charger from woot.com. As part of my charging station, this will help keep radios, batteries, phones, tablets, and other devices charged and ready to go.
    6. A 17 pound ButterBall”Turkey from Meijer’s for $0.33 per pound. We think they may have run out of the house brand, and substituted the good ones.

    1. I totally forgot about Thanksgiving, which we had as we have for years at the BIL’s home about 3 miles from here.
      Everyone brought their assigned dishes and we had more than enough food for everyone. We had relatives up from Florida and down from Massachusetts; but, mostly from the general area. Like normal years, I hung out with the women in the kitchen, while the guys were in the living room watching football, until one of the kids opened an early Christmas present, a Bluetooth wireless microphone and karaoke machine. Someone started streaming country songs and we all had a big sing along. The vote was for no Christmas music; but, we did do songs like Joe Diffy’s John Deere Green and some Simon and Garfunkle.

    2. tops questions

      1 no thoughts on it

      2 would have walked away if the weather wasn’t shitty leaving me stuck indoors all day, i didn’t have anyting but leftovers, had made a dutch oven full of onions, potatos, tomatos and venison on monday and had the last of it around noon thursday, then my neigbor dropped off some left overs from their place in the evening.

      3 i usually eat left overs till they are gone, like in the summer if i make a gallon of potato salad i eat nothing but potato salad for breakfast lunch and dinner for days until its gone. and as i have no refrigeration left overs are generally just left sitting on the counter (like that venison stuff), or are kept on the floor (like the potato salad). i never get sick with food poisoning, if it smells i toss it.

    3. TOP’s Questions:
      1. Saw the clip several times last week. Hope I can maintain physical fitness too.
      2. As the main cook of the Thanksgiving meal, I missed the morning work out, but it is a family tradition to take a walk once the dishes are done and the food is put away.
      3. We are pretty careful about the food getting put up quickly. As a child, one Christmas trip to Grandma’s was ruined by everyone getting sick. Not sure if it was food poisoning or virus BUT I still remember that time vividly.

      Glad you had your family around!

    4. TOP’s question
      1. It has been said that age & treachery beats youth and skill every time; but, what would you call this? An 82-year-old female bodybuilder sent an unlucky home invader to the hospital: https://www.insider.com/82-year-old-body-builder-sends-unlucky-home-invader-hospital-2019-11

      A well-deserved and a well-delivered beating. I like that the cops were getting selfies with the lady.

      2. Did you walk away from your Thanksgiving meal or waddle away?

      Walked away, sat on the couch, and waited for my pancreas to explode. Amazingly, it didn’t.

      3. Thanksgiving leftovers are a staple in America and nothing is more satisfying than piling bits of turkey onto a sandwich to enjoy days after the big feast; however, one in six (about 48 million) people experience food poisoning each year, with about 3,000 each year dyeing from it. Food poisoning happens from exposure to nasty bacteria, usually from food that wasn’t cooked or stored properly. What do you do with your leftovers?

      Well, I personally don’t have much in the way of leftovers as I cook just enough for me. But when I do have leftovers, they get packaged up in little tubs, or properly Saran wrapped, then immediately refrigerated. I rarely freeze leftovers as they will be history in a day or two. I’ve had food poisoning a couple of times (restaurant food) – once a Chinese takeout place that zapped three police officers, two firefighters, and a clerk from the city treasurers office, plus a bunch of citizens, all in one night. I was one of the cops. The county health department went through that place like a dose of salts and they were shut down for a couple of weeks. No city employee ever went back that I’m aware of. I’d rather not repeat those instances. Oh, and I got dysentery from the Air Force run mess hall in Vietnam. Never went back. Hired a hooch maid to cook my supper as did a few other Marines. Ate some weird stuff, but never got sick.

    5. 1. Unlucky home invader who evidently didn’t scout out his intended target.

      2. Slithered into the recliner for a nap. Puppy behind me on the floor…. LOL

      3. Refrigerate, freeze or freeze dry.

  16. Hi Pack, A little late to the party… but here.
    Taras questions.. winter preps, keep animal areas clean and dry… get in more wood chips/sawdust., build and replenish composting areas as animal areas are re worked.. ..checks of areas for air leakage, seal /reseal doors and windows as needed. increase stocks of animal feed bec. less protein avail for the 2 legged girls…increasing grow areas.
    Favorite chickens.. have 11 Americana..one Columbian roo..- good guard roo..( like the Columbian hens.) 2 RIRs. Most chickens do not sit successfully til second year. The Columbian hens tried, to sit earliest both hens that survived…the attacks while we were gone… were later attacked. all these have just begun 2nd year. in Sept. have molted and all are laying on some schedule… irratically. Americana have taken less time off from laying , all have increased egg size…( started with tiny, then became medium… all kinds of colored eggs. blue, green, cream,.. The rirs lay a deep brown egg. The Americana were bought as chicks in Sept and began laying by March.. with the increase in sunlight…egg production is everywhere from zero to 5 presently…with light situation, no surprized… have not added extra light…
    Dollar tree , yes…pink salt,whole boxed milk, bacon flavored meat product(similar to spam), pasta, matches, emergency candles, La awesome powder-(peroxide based) spices and seasonings…body wash, shampoo,toothpaste,toothbrushes, elastic wrap. cheap tools- screwdriver, plyers, duct tape..eyewear,silk flowers. cheap gripper gardening gloves, sometimes seed.gift bags,

    Had thanksgiving with daughter, assisted her in canning her second turkey. brought home the canner and all her bones , made turkey bone broth. have canned 7 qts,.. have more to complete…made Turkey pasta soup with; some of the broth, rotel, dehydrated veggies, onion garlic and mushroom.

    Did some real damage to injured shoulder muscle.. will have to be on light duty for several weeks until is completely healed. right elbow must remain close to hip.. to prevent re injury.
    We don’t feed any raw meat regularly- it is safe to give bones to dogs as long as it is not cooked according to Country VET , Vet gives chicken leg quarters routinely as large portion of show dogs feed.
    Cooking bones changes the structure in the bone and causes splintering and intestinal injury and many times an awful death to pets that consume cooked bones.
    CWD in wild animals will not be stopped by by monitoring and taking out a few deer. It is coming to a pasture near you. The dead prion stays dormant for a time and then takes over the brains of the unsuspecting that has consumed it . Info i have avail , is should an animal be infected and killed to bury it as deep as possible.. Prion is not migratory., in soil..but remains able to reinfect for 100 or more years. The prion may be passed in semen, nerve tissue, organ meats, and slobber. from a sick animal left on grass- and infects the NEXT eater of that clump of grass. ..it may lie quietly without producing visible symptoms for months or years.
    THere is NO treatment,for animal nor man. No diagnosis can be verified without death first.for CWD!
    Thanks to the forestry service Tn now has infected deer from the animals imported from infected areas- out west, done to re introduce…into parks. We grew up eating venison as it was available, Now not a matter of preference of flavor but digest-ability. With CWD within 30 miles, it is not worth the risk to consume a ticking time bomb of this proportion. As a result of this disease we have gathered as many facts from those who know the specialists in these areas.OUR decision is to raise our own meats n controlled quarters..wild meats are off our menu.
    Take care, Keep on Keeping on. If this whole shebang does not go off in our faces, we will have what we need without stressing…and can use what we have .and take the missed vacations.If it does go off. then we will have at least part of what we need according to our preps.

    1. when i was the mohawk tribes forester i wrked closely with the wildlife technician who did cwd testing, or at least took the lymph nodes from the deers heads and sent them to be tested in a dec lab, he also did aging surveys by measuring the jaw bones, and a few other survey things i on’t recall based on the heads. i got a little carried away helping my coworkers sometimes and got the nickname “the bone collector” because every time i saw a road kill deer i stopped the work truck, took the ax out from behind the seat went out and hacked the deers head off, also took heads from the illegal dumping when i saw it (butchered deer someone shot then tossed the bones and waste on the side of the road somewhere). there were days i would come back to the office around lunch time with half a dozen severed deer heads that i would bring to the wildlife tech. got to the point i was bringing so many people were telling stories that they saw me jump out of the truck, run down deer and chop the heads off in a single swing like some crazed viking. creeped out a lot of the other people at the office when i showed up with a pile of heads and they kept trying to figure out how i kept finding so many. never had confirmed cwd from any sample the office had.

      1. They are testing every deer taken in our county and 4 others in our general region. and some in state/areas to our south./…Have extended the season to take down the numbers of animals. They send off the heads and tell the hunter how to utilize and not utilize the deer. It must remain identifiable until the test results are back…so must be labeled with hunters name,packaged for no leakage, frozen until contact with wildlife authorities….

    2. AA,,,,lost a dear cousin to CJD ,was a deer hunter ,did fried brains for breakfast ,watched a brite ,sweet person turn into a vegetable ,very sad ,,deer were Taken in Colorado, problem started with a feed protein made from sheep that had scrapie and used to winter feed deer herds by Co fish and game ,all warn blooded mammals are susceptible ,you can not cook out the problem ,main vector is nerve tissue,solid muscles were once thought safe but late research indicates a high risk same for blood and all body fluids ,,including urine ,CJD -BSE-CWD -scrapie ,,all the same

      I would eat earth worms before deer ,

      1. OH,
        I am so sorry for the loss of your cousin.
        I am thinking all scavengers will be at risk to spread disease as well. Many people will die before all methods of transfer are acknowledged.
        I think it is just one more way to reduce the earths population…What is so scarey about this diseases., no testing except after death…. it lies without visible symptoms for an unknown time, and many times one can not trace to find the beginning of the disease.
        We were not heavy venison eaters, so our focus has been not to replace venison, but to grow as much of our own meats, needed as possible- get from a reliable controlled source away from the areas of contamination.. think i have found a couple of sources. for different meats. This year has been a trial, and next year… will be more trials for several new ( to grow for us) vegetables.w/ considerations like preventing cross pollination of several varieties..
        . It is my understanding that to safely produce without fear of contamination, a barrier needs to be constructed so any infected animal can not utilize one’s property as a crossing… so 8-9 ft fences…is /will be a good start.
        Guess i need to get the earthworm, bed going in earnest.LOL thinking turkeys and pigs may be our next two additions

        1. Anonamo Also,

          I am thinking all scavengers will be at risk to spread disease as well. Many people will die before all methods of transfer are acknowledged.

          I don’t think it has as much to do with acknowledgement as understanding the vectors of transfer, some of which may not yet be known. My understanding was only nerve tissue; but, per 0ldhomesteaders assertions, I found this information that reads in part:

          Sporadic CJD (sCJD), in contrast, typically affects elderly individuals and has an unknown etiology (cause) and incidence of approximately 1/million population per annum throughout the world.

          AND This:

          Instances of accidental iatrogenic prion transmission between humans have also been documented following the transplantation of sCJD-contaminated tissues (Dura mater grafts*) or tissue products (pituitary-derived human growth hormones), transfusion of blood or blood products from vCJD-infected donors, or use of prion-contaminated surgical instruments or medical devices.

          All from here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5750584

          *The Dura Mater (literally, “tough mother”) is the dense, leathery membrane covering and protecting the brain and spinal cord. Dural graft substitutes are used when the opening in the Dura is too large to be sutured together.

          And we thought brain surgery was already dangerous.

          I think it is just one more way to reduce the earths population. What is so scarey about this diseases., no testing except after death…. it lies without visible symptoms for an unknown time, and many times one can not trace to find the beginning of the disease.

          Controlled reduction of the population may be a good thing; but, there are far better ways, and personally I’m not going without a fight.
          Since it’s, not only undetectable but incurable and untreatable, it may be a good reason to swear off venison for good.

          We were not heavy venison eaters, so our focus has been not to replace venison, but to grow as much of our own meats, needed as possible- get from a reliable controlled source away from the areas of contamination.. think i have found a couple of sources. for different meats.

          I haven’t had any venison in quite a while, I’m not really fond of it, and the DW doesn’t like it at all. We still have a lot of beef, so perhaps we’ll just stick to that for the most part along with some local pork & chicken.

          It is my understanding that to safely produce without fear of contamination, a barrier needs to be constructed so any infected animal can not utilize one’s property as a crossing… so 8-9 ft fences…is /will be a good start.

          If that’s the case, we’ll not be doing it, since the project would be cost prohibitive, so perhaps we just need to be watchful and try to scare them away, although we do occasionally see them (whitetail deer) on the property.

          This has been a good discussion and the interplay and research I’ve done has been enlightening and rather spooky / scary.

          1. TOP, My research came thru some good contacts I have with people who KNOw the ones that do some of/ have done some of the research.
            .. The one that concerns me it the transfer by a sick animal by slobber… it would be dry in a matter of short time… no visible way to know where those animals have traveled.. any animal that would eat that plant material would be a carrier of the disease.
            The areas being clear of prions in infected areas will not happen in our lifetimes, nor our children’s.. 100+ years is viable. a dead prion can cause disease. Would have to put a cap on the land and plant on top of that…if area is suspect. The prion can not migrate to the top.it is dead, but still causes disease. In a known contamination area, burying the dead animal and the soil known to be contaminated as deep as possible., and in a manner to keep anything from disturbing the deep grave..

            If fences are already up a few strands of electric fencing with flags on it would help them change paths… Our place is small enough will not be too much more to do that….

      2. 0ldhomesteader,

        lost a dear cousin to CJD ,was a deer hunter ,did fried brains for breakfast ,watched a brite ,sweet person turn into a vegetable ,very sad

        I’ve never had the compunction to eat brains of any sort; but, it’s too bad that a pathogen like this has been allowed to spread, especially with the horrible, untreatable outcome.

        deer were Taken in Colorado, problem started with a feed protein made from sheep that had scrapie and used to winter feed deer herds by Co fish and game

        I think I read about this. Feeding herbivores meat of any type was probably a bad idea; but, it was probably an inexpensive option at the time.

        ,all warn blooded mammals are susceptible ,you can not cook out the problem, main vector is nerve tissue, solid muscles were once thought safe but late research indicates a high risk same for blood and all body fluids ,,including urine

        I hadn’t heard about anything except nerve tissue and will have to do some additional research.

        CJD -BSE-CWD -scrapie ,,all the same

        It is also called Kuru and is found among people from New Guinea who practice a form of cannibalism in which they ate the brains of dead people as part of a funeral ritual.
        It is caused by a spooky nasty infectious protein called a Prion that cannot be destroyed by boiling, alcohol, acid, standard autoclaving methods, or radiation. Infected brains that have been sitting in formaldehyde for decades can still transmit spongiform disease.
        Sometimes Mother Nature can come up with some real lethal things; however, clostridium botulinum, smallpox, and others can at least be killed.

        I would eat earth worms before deer

        I’ve actually eaten earthworms & worse.
        While I haven’t hunted deer since 2014, you may have made me a convert; however, Deer Gun Season here in Ohio started today, December 2 through December 8 and again December 21 & 22.
        Deer archery season started in October and runs through Sunday, Feb. 2, 2020.

        Deer in Ohio are a large cash business with people stocking deer camp, and purchasing licenses & permits that provide a lot of funding for the Department of Wildlife.
        For many in poorer counties, venison is a staple for meat on the table, so CWD would be a real devastating influence

  17. I’ve been receiving Cyber Monday deal updates from Amazon and this one may be of some calue. They have the

    Kaito KA500 5-way Powered Solar Power,Dynamo Crank, Wind Up Emergency AM / FM / SW / NOAA Weather Alert Radio with Flashlight,Reading Lamp and Cellphone Charger for only $40.00 which is a $10.00 (20%) savings. I have one of these and it’s one of the best I’ve found for coverage & alternative power
    https://smile.amazon.com/Kaito-Powered-Emergency-Flashlight-Cellphone/dp/B003A21DQA?ref_=pe_28834720_456535610_grep_pep_p_img

      1. Clergylady,
        I’ve had one for several years; but, it’s just one of the many radio’s I’ve collected since I was a kid.
        It is however both handy and versatile in modes, coverage, and power sources. It can also be used for lighting and to charge other USB chargable devices.

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