What I Did to Prep This Week

What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 73: December 1st 2019 – December 7th 2019

homestead view from the hill

The view from the hill. It was a chilly early morning out hunting on our survival homestead for some of our tribe members, but a productive one that resulted in two bucks being harvested.

Hello Pack. It’s been a windy, chilly, and muddy week here on our survival homestead this week. Most of our preps at the moment involve hunting and processing deer. We are going to have our freezers well stocked for the winter, that’s for sure.

I think our blue heelers are as thrilled about all of the hunting as the rest of my tribe. Now, if I could just keep Jovie, Ruger, and Henry from dragging deer legs into my house, all would be right with the world.

Our region of Ohio is known both for its turkey and white tail deer hunting. Now that turkey season is over I swear those birds are taunting the deer and frollicking about in open fields is large flocks – just because they can.

I bought this cool game for the kids in our tribe, a Jr. Ranger’s game entitled Poop Tracks. Auddie, who will not be four until late February seems to be the most enthralled with the game, and the best at it.

You have to match the animal card with its track card, and with its scat card. Each card depicts the animal in its natural habitat to guide you when first learning the matches. It is an excellent survival homesteading homeschool activity that can be enjoyed by young to middle school-aged children.

Auddie delves through the guide book that comes with the inexpensive game both before and after playing. The artist’s renderings of the animals are very realistic, and include facts about each one.

She cannot read yet, but enjoys browsing and comparing the animals in size and feature, and noting which ones we have on our homestead.

A cougar – mountain lion card caught her eye, and Auddie wanted to know what kind of cat it was called. She knew it was not a bobcat because we unfortunately have them lurking in our woods. I talked to Auddie a little bit about mountain lions and added – “We don’t have them here.”

Well, I will never make that mistake again when little Audriella holds up a wild animal card. It was the very next day a cougar was spotted by multiple people and was showcased on a trail cam not two miles from our survival homestead – right next to a tribe member’s homestead.

We tend to call their place, “Death Hill” because animals always seem to die there in large quantities either due to a wild animal attack (once possibly a bear) or weird causes.

A few years back, before we moved out of town, a black bear walked down the street and made statewide news. I had a duck come up missing the same night, and the street the bear was initially spotted on was the next street over.

I am still thinking it made a snack out of Daryl. There we no feathers and no blood, she was just gone. Yes, Daryl was a she, but I did not know that when I named her and she had learned her name before I did. Her brother’s name was Meryl and he was a feisty little duck, probably my favorite.

Where we used to keep our horses in the summer before we moved, I also spotted bear tracks by their watering hole. It tends to be the early fall when bears are spotted in this part of Appalachia.

Juvenile males traveling up from West Virginia to Pennsylvania to find a mate and hibernate is what is believed to coerce them out into the open in our region.

Although the kids and I go on bear hunts here on our homestead, that is just a fun theme I use to teach them orienteering and tracking skills, we have never actually seen one here… yet.

My Bobby’s horse Andy, a Halfinger, sustained a pretty severe eye injury this week. I looks like more of a slice to me than a wound from a kick. If there is any possible way an animal can be injured on a piece of loose board, tin, or fencing, it always seems Andy is the one who falls victim. We doctored him up naturally last night, and he tolerated our tending a lot more patient than I thought that he would.

We stockpile natural remedies for our livestock and dogs just as deeply as we do for ourselves – there is also a lot of crossover. I generally coat every animal wound with a coating of my Popaw’s “Miracle Salve” because it not only promotes healing (in my personal experience), but it keeps bugs and debris out of the wound, and deters licking of the wound.

The salve is simple to make, 3 parts petroleum jelly and 1 part turpentine. It does not sting when applied at all. I have used it on myself pretty much forever.

One time, before I had given birth (so we are talking a few years back), one of my brothers used it on me, well kinda. He forgot to mix the turpentine with the petroleum jelly before pouring it on a finger that had been sliced deeply with a jigsaw blade and refused to heal.

Now let me tell you fellow preppers, that did burn and was likely the worst pain I had ever felt – it definitely hurt more than the initial wounds, that’s for sure.

This Week’s Questions:

  1. Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?
  2. What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?
  3. What did you do to prep this week?

Tara Dodrill

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Tara Dodrill is a homesteading and survival journalist and author. She lives on a small ranch with her family in Appalachia. She has been both a host and frequent guest on preparedness radio shows. In addition to the publication of her first book, 'Power Grid Down: How to Prepare, Survive, and Thrive after the Lights go Out', Dodrill also travels to offer prepping tips and hands-on training and survival camps and expos.
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146 thoughts on “What I Did To Prep This Week – Week 73: December 1st 2019 – December 7th 2019

  1. Tara’s questions

    1 not deliberatly, more of an opportunist and pest control, like earlier this week i had a couple deer 10 feet outside the window from my cabin, could have easily got my pick but i was too busy that day with other plans, other times i just shoot woodchucks in the garden or coons near the coop. iperfer trapping since i can set traps and jut check them daily rather than having to activly hunt, as i usually have other stuff to do if the weather is ok for hunting

    2 i have some ad hoc training, keep a supplyof various medicnes, same way i treat them in non emergencies, local vets are a bunch of dicks so i do everything myself

    cut and stacked more firewood, burned a lot of branch piles, then cut more treesdragging and adding the green branches to the hot coal pile so they burn, then cutting more trees and repeating till mid day then leting fire down and using tractor to gather and stack what i cut, then reeat the next day. yesterday i went to a friends house and he used his paypal account to order the stuff i need to do my fillings (home dentistry) i got no phone, email, or bank info so its almost impossible to order anything myself (i list an old and no longer active email when i post here). just online for the morning then i will be going out to cut more wood.

    i heard the police state of ny will have a 9 billion budget deficit next year, mostly due to handouts and obamacare, they are currently trying to find a balance in te budget without raising the already obcene tax rates or cutting anything, most likely they will be pushing it off till next yea when the deficit will be twce that much. they just keep making criminals out of people so they can muscle money from “criminals” police were told to pass out twice as many tickets and i know a few people who recently got them for having dirty license plates or having an obstructed view (by having their military dogtags hanging from their rear view mirror). they also revisited the idea to mandate everyone replace their lisence plates and pay a $50 fee for it. fortunatly i choose not to participate in that crapshoot and just walk everywhere

    i got no quetions this week

    o you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?
    What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?
    What did you do to prep this week?

    1. just read that a cluter of local public schools banned columbus day from being clled columbus day. a group of teachers and a dozen students kept complaining until it was officially renamed native peoples day. and the local papers are cheering them on for it

    2. also i just turned 37 this week, kind of irritted and paranoid right now, my mother has a tendency to make bs complaints to the police about me around my birthday as a way to harrass me, like clockwork it happened several years in a row so i am extra wound up watching my driveway worried about what shit they may try to pull this year

      4 years in a row they called the state police to complain that i was “living off the grid”, first time the state cops had spent 3 days trying to find me (no registered address, they had to ask around town to find me) when they did they dropped the investigation since i looked a lot like the amish an they realized it was bs my family was doing to harrass me.

      the next year they did it again calling the barracks in another county then it was refered to the local barracks who repeated it and again told my family to leave me along and knock off that shit

      the 3rd year they called the state police hq in albany who refered it down to the local barracks, and they knew exactly where i was from the last 2 times and when that cop was told about previous instances he was pissed off and threatened my mother with arrest if she pulled that stunt again

      the 4th year my mother had my sister make the complaint and the cops were really pissed off and threatened to arrest anyone who made a complaint against me like that in the future, almost going so far as to make another restraining order (my parents talked their way out of arrest when they claimed they thought being told not to only applied to them and my sister could do it).

      then they tried something else the following year but the cops were not directly involved until i called them as a responce to what my parents pulled.

      then last year they didn’t pull anything (but that may just be because my grandmother was on her deathbed and died a few days later so they were distracted, i’m glad the bitch died), but this is another year and i am all stressed out paranoid about what shit they might try to pull this time. my usual “birthday pressent” is to be investigated and harrassed by police

      1. Nemoseto,

        I don’t think you are being “harassed” by the police. Certainly by your family. Sounds like the troopers are on to their game and are on your side in this. Cops hate this kind of BS stuff and eventually, they will pay if they keep it up. You just stay mellow and cooperate with the cops and it should all fall out in your favor.

      2. Nemoseto,

        i just turned 37 this week, kind of irritted and paranoid right now

        Only 37? So your just a kid LOL
        For someone as young as you to be as self sufficient, you should be commended.
        I also think you may be one of the younger members of this pack.
        Happy birthday.

      3. well i did something i regret today

        spent most of the day cutting firewood but when it got dark i asked my neighbor for a ride to the truck stop, picked up a double bacon cheeseburger delux with sweet potato fries at the diner to go for $17 and a small icecrean cake for $15

        the burger was worth it, but that ice cream cake (friendlys brand) sucked (and i ate the whole thing just because i didn’t want to toss it after pissing away $15 on it).

  2. I got the flu even though I had a flu shot. Only had about 25% of symptoms so I guess that is a win. It did make the strained muscles in my neck worse leading to several sleepless days as the dull ache would get more severe if I laid down. My doctor is close by and takes walk ins. The PA I saw there suggested massage and gave me a small jar of ointment called Dragon Balm from Thailand. It contains petroleum jelly with Barlerie lupuline leaf extract, camphor, and wintergreen oil. For several days I did get a few hours of relief with each application but last night nothing worked. Monday will be two weeks of this, good thing I have nothing pressing to do.

    I missed the first cold days of winter to get outside work done. I spent my time huddled by my electric space heater drinking coffee. With my neck problem I couldn’t even go snuggle under some warm covers in my bed. I am feeling better so hopefully this week i will get some stuff done.

    Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?
    I do not have the energy to walk around hunting but deer troop up and down my driveway every night. If I want one all I would have to do is sit in my yard until one walks by. My arboreal cats have got rid of all the squirrels around my home so I couldn’t shoot any if I wanted to.

    What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?
    No livestock and even though I feed them the cats are feral and would have to fend for themselves.

    What did you do to prep this week?
    Nothing, too sick.

    1. Daddo7:

      I understand there are 2 types of flu bugs running around and the shot only works for one. So much for modern medicine.

      1. JP,

        I understand there are 2 types of flu bugs running around and the shot only works for one. So much for modern medicine.

        Actually, due to mutations, there have been many more than 2 over the years; but, getting that yearly vaccination gives you better immunity over time due to overlap in the various protein coats and general herd immunity. The DW and I have been getting those yearly immunizations for more than 20 years, and cannot remember when either of us had the flu. I bring this up to her every year when she whines about getting stuck with a needle but, when she realizes it, she also gets the shot.
        So far, so good.

          1. JP,

            I was talking about just this year. DW and I saw an article on it last night.

            Ah? What media outlet had the article?
            Too often I see self important, non medical, “Anchors” giving their opinion, based on a tiny sliver of fact.
            If you have had no other early vaccinations, then the original statement was probably true, since the vaccines take time to formulate based on the strains hitting down under, that have been a historical good indication of what’s upcoming here.

  3. Hi Tara, Dan, & all,

    I think our blue heelers are as thrilled about all of the hunting as the rest of my tribe. Now, if I could just keep Jovie, Ruger, and Henry from dragging deer legs into my house, all would be right with the world.M/blockquote>
    Too bad they can’t help with the deer hunt. I used to hunt near you in Athens County and the friend who hosted us had 2 Springer spaniels with which we used to hunt pheasants. When we got out all the gear for deer camp, they knew the hunt was on; but, were sadly disappointed when we left them back at the house, staring out the front window with the, “HEY!!!, You forgot us” look.

    Our region of Ohio is known both for its turkey and white tail deer hunting. Now that turkey season is over I swear those birds are taunting the deer and frollicking about in open fields is large flocks – just because they can.

    I’ve seen the same thing on the Athens farm, almost like they can read the calendar.

    Auddie delves through the guide book that comes with the inexpensive game both before and after playing. The artist’s renderings of the animals are very realistic, and include facts about each one.

    She cannot read yet, but enjoys browsing and comparing the animals in size and feature, and noting which ones we have on our homestead.

    When they are old enough, be sure and take them to a hunter education class, and hopefully the instructors will have the Ohio Wildlife Identification guides to pass out. They have full color photos along with tracks and descriptions of nearly all Ohio wildlife, game and nongame animals, including snakes.

    Well, I will never make that mistake again when little Audriella holds up a wild animal card. It was the very next day a cougar was spotted by multiple people and was showcased on a trail cam not two miles from our survival homestead – right next to a tribe member’s homestead.

    If you don’t normally go about armed, this would be a good reason to do so.

    The salve is simple to make, 3 parts petroleum jelly and 1 part turpentine. It does not sting when applied at all. I have used it on myself pretty much forever.

    I hoped you would give us the recipe once you mentioned it.
    Sounds rather easy.

    One time, before I had given birth (so we are talking a few years back), one of my brothers used it on me, well kinda. He forgot to mix the turpentine with the petroleum jelly before pouring it on a finger that had been sliced deeply with a jigsaw blade and refused to heal.

    That hurts just thinking about it. I’ve cut myself a few times; but, with a sharp tool the real pain comes later as it starts to heal, with or without the turpentine. LOL

    Tara’s Questions
    1. Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?
    Yes. Whitetail Deer, rabbit, & squirrel; however, the recent discussion about CWD has me rethinking the deer.
    2. What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?
    We keep a good supply of commercial medications for our horse and cats; but, nothing really for the chickens, that might just go to freezer camp
    3. What did you do to prep this week?
    See below.

    TOP’s question
    1. Did everyone see this? Nearly 700,000 SNAP Recipients Could Lose Benefits Under New Trump Rule
    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/04/784732180/nearly-700-000-snap-recipients-could-lose-benefits-under-new-trump-rule
    Some people are already complaining about able bodied people 49 & under) having to work part time,, what do you think?

    This week we acquired and did the following.
    1. Baked the $0.33 per pound 17 lb turkey. Lightly oiled and patted with garlic powder, with no stuffing in a cooking bag and the outcome was delicious. We’ll now be eating various turkey recipes for a while, so less decision making or cooking will be required.
    2. Found one of my original solar, crank emergency radios that still works. AM & FM only that only needed 2 AA NiMH batteries Dynamo & Solar Radio Receiver/Nippon/Black Here’s a photo: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rpMAAOSw-ZBdJMb2/s-l640.jpg This now gives me 3 with the Baygen & the Kaito Voyager.
    3. Thursday morning @ 9:00 AM I watched speaker Pelosi pretend to be a founding father and hopefully put the Democrat party on the road to suicide with the impeachment follow-up. I understand why they are desperate, since a 2nd Trump term could ruin their narrative and perhaps give him 1 or 2 more shots @ a SCOTUS appointment.
    4. The DW & I met another retired engineer & ham operator and discussed some tactical training we’ll be doing here on the property once the weather warms up.

        1. Almost There,

          Didn’t you mean Snowflake? Lol

          Snowflake or cupcake, really makes no difference. One melts and the other just gets stale; but, in the long term they are both useless, empty calories. LOL

      1. Zulu,

        I work four jobs to get ahead. With the unemployment rate so low there is no reason able-bodied adults can’t work. I say hide their SNAP cards under their work boots.

    1. fk the bums on stamps thats what i have to say, i never have nor ever would sink so low as to debase myself with stamps. back in my 20 i was eating out of dumpsters, roadkill and whatever and had a steady diet mostly made of rice and soft tack (like har tack but only cooked to where it was still slightly pliable). my parent took stamps under my name but i got none of it (so technically even if i wanted to i couldn’t sign up since my name was already in the system despite it was a kind of id theft, they also got heap fuel sent to their house under my name while i went without heat or took whatever i could carry home for the wood stove). i never had the benefit of that rubbish and it just made me stronger. make the bums work or limit them to gruel.

      personally i have a dozen 55 gallon drums buried out in the woods filled with preserved food, i find the idea of foodstamps vile

      1. nemoseto,

        When I was a cop, food stamps were still in coupon form, no EBT. But, legit food stamp recipients had to have a ID card that showed they were legal to possess and use food stamps. Many stores never required people to show that ID card when they used food stamps, so stamps got used to pay for drugs, or other debts.

        If we arrested someone with food stamps, but no ID card, we asked if they had an ID. Of course, most did not. So we confiscated the food stamps and told them we would fax them back to Lansing and not charge them with illegal possession. We then went down the hall to the utility room and ran them through our industrial strength shredder. If they had an ID card that was not in their name, it went into the shredder too. Needless to say, the shredder became known as the big fax machine. 🙂

        1. was more complicated and evil than simple fraud. i may have bitched about my family being evil dysfunctional jerks before so i don’t really want to bitch about it again but there was a reason they didn’t get in trouble.

      2. Young and vigorous me thought the same way. After losing my farm and then working 70 hour weeks for 13 years I was 56 when my body gave out. I resisted help for a year but with me not being able to do more then walk from my bed to the dining room and my wife having to take care of her invalid mother and having a minor child still living at home I did apply for assistance. For a year I got $160 a month then I was able to get disability payments and was no long eligible for EBT.

        1. Daddio7,

          For a year I got $160 a month then I was able to get disability payments and was no long eligible for EBT.

          The difference was that you were really disabled from a hard working life, and not just a lazy bum, living off the system.
          The DW & I now get SS; but that’s something we both paid into for decades and if I could have included that money in my 401K or IRA, we would now be quite rich.
          She also gets a small pension; but, since it’s from a public retirement system (school), she has to report raises to SS, and her last raise on the pension from $390 to $400 cost her $7.00 less in SS, so nothing is free.

      3. nemoseto,
        Stamps? Not any more since they are so demeaning. Now they get the SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) EBT (Electronic benefit transfer) card, so when they “pay” for their food at checkout, they look just like anyone else using their Debit or Credit cards and don’t have to be embarrassed.
        From my perspective, any able bodied person who cannot work doing something for 20 hours a week to qualify is a deadbeat and doesn’t deserve the help.
        Our local Wal-Mart and Kroger have “handicapped” people with Down ’s syndrome packing bags and carrying some to cars for other handicapped or elderly folks. They are some of the best packers there, always being careful to put heavy things on the bottom and things like eggs on top.

    2. TOP:

      I have seen that ad/article a couple of times. I wish they would just enforce the rules they already have instead of looking to make new laws.

      1. JP,

        I have seen that ad/article a couple of times. I wish they would just enforce the rules they already have instead of looking to make new laws.

        This isn’t a new law; but, a tweak to an old one. The original law allowed states to waive the restrictions for some cases; but, when some states just waived them permanently for everyone, essentially defeating the system like some do with sanctuary jurisdictions, simply just ignoring federal law and policies while expecting the feds to keep paying, something had to be done.

        1. Yes the system does have fraud, and there are abuses to the system. I worked in a grocery store several years back, we had a few that came thru and had 2000$ balances on their “benefit card”. They also drove a luxury car in the latest model..( when automatic tailgates were new, they had them) If someone can not feed themselves then they need to stop making babies and that needs to be done medically , and permanently. Some states have a limit of children, is really high , 7.
          There are a couple of exceptions I think should stand. The one that comes to mind… Those who are truly disabled and have a spouse who has to remain home / remain available to care for them. Base disability is around 740 per mo. when rent is 450, electric is 140, basic communications for a month is 100 = not enough for 2 ppl to eat…When one is disabled and other is barred from working because of care giving…combined with a low income.. the 170-190$ per month can make a difference in eating ok and eating only nutritionally bankrupt food.I have seen this… more than once. Spouse caregivers are not paid, neither are adult children.(no outside income= no insurance.). They are dependent on the system to support them as they do give care continually for others. NO provision is made for these individuals.

          1. AA:

            You won’t get any argument from me on those who are truly needy getting help. I used to be a grocery clerk and say the same type of things going on in the 70’s. Disabled and elderly people and their care givers deserve our assistance. I question those with claims of “chronic pain”, between their welfare and dope.

            While I was in the service, stationed in the US (only half my career) I was always sending my junior enlisted married people to the office(s) for assistance. Especially in Hawaii and Massachusetts, due to their cost of living.

          2. The Medicaid system is messed up. My wife is a home care nurse and gets $30 an hour to care for her current patient. He has needs 24/7 care but the mother is not considered a care taker, she has to work six days a week at a job to earn money. If she was paid for just three 12 hour shifts she wouldn’t have to leave home and Medicaid would save $360 because the staffing agency gets $10 an hour to provide nurses.

          1. I know one couple who live together unmarried. They go on vacations several times each year. Because they are not married, she gets food stamps. I ended the friendship when I found out she was using the system.

  4. I did my low-carb grocery shopping this week. Added a little to my stash as usual. Did some weekly cooking.

    This week has been a very slow week prepping-wise. Had granddaughter three afternoons and one full day. She doesn’t want to take naps anymore, so that means an extra two-hours or so of playing with her. I miss the naps though as I slept with her. She did fall asleep on her own Thursday, but only dozed for 45-minutes and woke up ready to rock and roll.

    Another reason for a slow week is the state of my bank account after Christmas shopping. Still have to pay utility bills, rent, etc. Not to mention gas for the SUV. Gas prices have gone up 20-cents in the last ten-days or so here (Orlando). I have seen no food shortages in stores here. Prices are up on some items, but not drastically so.

    I have done reading on various prepper blogs, including this one. I have to find things to keep what’s left of my sanity as granddaughter is stuck on watching Toy Story 3, over and over, and wants me to sit with her. Could be much worse. Could be Barney or Tele-Tubbies (BTDT).

    Weather has been very sunny, but rather chilly at night and for a few days (chilly for Florida, anyway). Nothing that a hoodie couldn’t handle.

    A lot of things happening around the country, shootings and the like. I’m still trying to figure out why the Navy would put a sailor, armed, on gangway watch for a nuke sub while he was getting counselling and about to get non-judicial punishment for something. I guess they figured gangway watch was a sh*t detail and he was a sh*tbird, so…

    And the shooting at NAS Pensacola involving the Saudi pilot trainee. I can suspect what part of his motivation was (read the Koran). Most of the Saudi trainees are not well thought of as they will not apply themselves and work hard. And since most of them come from the Royal Family, diplomatically it’s hard to fail them. Anyway, it sounds like the first cops on scene did a good job despite getting shot themselves. I don’t know if they were Department of Defense police or Navy masters-at-arms (the Navy’s MPs).

    This Week’s Questions:

    1. Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?

    Nope, no hunting.

    2. What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?

    No pets or livestock.

    3. What did you do to prep this week?

    See above.

    1. Zulu 3-6,

      Weather has been very sunny, but rather chilly at night and for a few days (chilly for Florida, anyway). Nothing that a hoodie couldn’t handle.

      Chilly? Right now it’s 22° after a low of 17°, with the projected high today around 42°. The 42 is normal; but, the temperature swings make dressing for it a bit of a challenge, especially this afternoon when I’ll be helping with traffic management for a local Christmas parade.

      1. TOP,

        Our nights have been going down to around 42. For here and this time of year, it is a tad chilly. Day time temps were only getting up to about 65-70, but with the sunny days, it was back to t-shirts. It’s 71 now and predicted to go up to 77. I can deal with that. Another sunny day too.

      2. O.P.,

        I am sitting here at 11 p.m. with all the windows open. It’s probably just under 70 degrees out. That’s cold for Florida. We had lows last week in the high 30s. We had to bring the plants in from the front porch.

    2. Zulu 3-6,
      We have two fax machines; but, based on your description, I guess we also have a third. LOL
      Your description of Food Stamp abuse doesn’t surprise me, since I remember some small stores that got busted for direct exchange of stamps for cash; but, at a rate of something like4:1 or better. I think both parties got free room and board for a while after that.

      1. TOP,

        Yeah, we and the State would nail people for food stamp fraud frequently. But charging some crackhead for $30.00 worth of food stamps just wasn’t worth the time and the prosecutors probably wouldn’t want to do anything either. Fraud in the hundreds or thousands was another matter.

        1. Zulu 3-6,
          I think it was mostly the vendors here that got nailed.
          Getting thousands of dollars of food stamps for pennies on the dollar exchanged @ par was lucrative; but, some smaller operators got caught by a simple audit. Turn in $100,000 worth of food stamps and the audit shows your store only has $20,000.00 worth of food ever ordered or stocked, and it was over.
          It appears that not all robbery is done with a gun.

          1. small grocery in a town 10 miles from me got shut down and the owner doing 10 years for fraud, he would run all the balance off those cards as a point of sale and give the person $20 cash and a case of beer.

            i tried to report a former neighbor for fraud (the drug dealer i was feuding with till he lost both legs and moved out, then turned oit he was only a squatter and didn’t own the land he was on) but cops did nothing as his method was technically legal, he would go to the store with someone, use his stamps to buy them groceries and they gave him either beer and vodka or 1/4 the value of the stamps as cash, technically he didn’t sell the stamps he sold the food he got with them.

    3. Zulu 3-6:

      Our gas prices have been stable for a while, but I went to Wal-Mart looking for 25# bags of sugar and salt. No salt that size (not even a space) and the sugar isle looked like a war zone with just a few 4# bags left. Getting some 4#’s at Safeway for $.99 each (1/2 of the bulk bag price). Other friends are starting to notice shortages/lack of refill of items at the stores. I just told them “Welcome to the new normal!”.

      1. JP,
        We have been getting 10 pound bags of cane sugar at the local Rural King for $5.00 any time, so it may be regional.
        My problem is that when I throw more in the cart, the DW gives me that hairy eyeball look and asks: “Don’t we already have enough?”
        I tell her one can never have enough; but, she then points out the gallons of maple syrup & honey also in storage, so I’ll often limit it to one per trip.

  5. This morning its 25° but Wind chill is 14°. We’ve already been down to 3° a couple of times.
    Bargain turkey here was $.78 a lb. I bought a 17 lb one and canned it all. We’d had a nice ham dinner with family a few days earlier. While they were here from two different states I gave them the knit and crochet scarf and hat sets and a keyboard for one family’s grandkids. Then teens and young adults got real old fashioned cookbooks for real food. Actually that worked out great. I saw them trading recepies between books and reading them. Most newer books just rework mixes. I have two more cookbooks for my diabetic neighbors.
    I don’t hunt here. You pay out big money for the licenses and for deer or elk it’s luck of the draw where in the state you end up at. Husband isn’t up to cold weather outings and the injuries and surgeries I’ve been through the last 2 1/2 years make it unwise to kill a deer and try and pack out meat. I’m recovering but at almost 73 I don’t know how much strength I’ll regain. I am defiantly getting stronger and walking better. If I hunt again it may be more trapping. I raise chickens, ducks and rabbits. I get meat and eggs from them. I canned some of the ham after the family headed home.
    We see mountain lions, bob cats, coyote, and bear fairly common here. Had a bear in the yard a while before Thanksgiving. She was after a duck in a heavy dog crate in the yard. She pulled the crate around but didn’t get in. Scared one of the ducks to death. They caught her up a tree by a school about a block away. Took her up on the mountain. Next day she was back at the school. They caught her again and relocated her to a different mountain range. Thirty some years ago I saw a mountain lion here in my yard. That’s enough. Cats control the squirrel and mouse population.
    Med for critters. Cats on their own. 10 lb of bark was attacked by a coyote. Mama cat tangled with the same coyote. Several long cuts around the neck. Healed up without a scar. Put sweet almond oil mixed with a bit of tea tree oil on the dogs wounds. She healed beautifully after a shave. I was deciding if she needed stitches or leave the wounds open and keep them washed to heal. Decided against stitches. Big hole on back healed and closed on its own with time. Mostly I treat my critters.

    1. Clergylady ,

      Cats control the squirrel and mouse population.

      Squirrel and mouse population is what our barn cats do; but, your cat could probably control the Elk, People, and Elephant populations.
      While they are pretty to watch from a distance or at the zoo, roaming my backyard would be a bit unpleasant.

  6. This Week’s Questions:

    1. Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt? Would love to, I just don’t have the knees for it anymore.

    2. What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster? Just general first-aid stuff.

    3. What did you do to prep this week? Well….

    Cyber Monday: I picked up a new 22 LR SA revolver on at a local store for $90 (Heritage Rough Rider) (a magnum cylinder is available for it from the factory for $30). I ordered another Olight flashlight (500/1050 lumens) and some Mag-Pul magazines for $7.99 (free shipping). New headlight assemblies for DW’s Subaru (after 10 years of Montana winters they get too pitted to even polish out).

    I got signed up with a local provider for my CPAP supplies. We will start in January. I am due a lot of equipment, including a new machine (mine is about 10 years).

    The Olight i3E EOS flashlight is a very small light; twist on/off, 1-AAA battery. Great for putting on your jacket’s zipper or key ring! These are the 3rd & 4th Olight lights I have purchased; great rechargeable lights, with replaceable batteries.

    Supply Run: .22 LR Revolver; rice; sugar; beans; barley; bucket lids; peppercorns; canned chicken; dehydrated hash browns; HW wheat

    Received: Books: Surviving on Insects, Building Bare-Handed Survival Shelters, Guerrilla Gardening for Long Term Survival, Eating on the Run (from Mother Earth News), The Complete Apocrypha, Wildfire; 5TB external drive (for USGS Maps) w/case; PSA Upper 1:7 5.56×45 (tan); PSA Bolt Carrier Groups; headlight assemblies for Subaru; Olight S30R Baton III w/i3E rechargeable flashlights

          1. AT,
            the methods that work for MJ work for all flowering plants, same growing conditions and set ups work.
            FYI,.. I have a friend that uses the LED shop lights, Daylight bulbs in her garage for starting plants and is doing some winter growing with them this year…is in deep southern area…so far so good.These start at 20$ each./w/ 2 bulbs. Lower the lights very close to plants to keep them from being leggy.

  7. Puppy is doing great on his training hitting targets and his focus on playing is outrageous, he stays on it till he gets it. A neighbor came to the house the other day needing a jump for his vehicle and puppy showed him his jump…LOL Puppy did a vertical hind leg leap up and down from a dead stop of over 3 feet. His eyes got big and I told the neighbor to go to the garage.

    Emergency heat
    Bought a six pack of insta-logs for quick fires they last 4 hours.

    Food
    Bought 10 lbs rice
    Bought 10 lbs sugar
    Bought 2 6 packs of romaine noodles
    Bought 2 cans of Spam
    Bought 2 jars of peanut butter

    Water
    2 cases

    Security
    Tested the ghost gun and it worked flawlessly. Got 3 more builds to do. 2 in .308.

    Thor’s questions:

    1. What do you think will happen in Virginia with the new anti gun bills anti self-defense training even boxing?
    2. If Dems send impeachment to the Senate and the truth comes out about how our taxpayer dollars were funneled into the Democratic party from Ukraine, will there be arrests?
    3. What do you think is the best SHTF gun? If you could have 2?
    4. Does your house look like a grocery store?

    1. Thor’s questions:

      1. What do you think will happen in Virginia with the new anti gun bills anti self-defense training even boxing?

      I don’t think it will make it through and if it does, some court will kill it.

      2. If Dems send impeachment to the Senate and the truth comes out about how our taxpayer dollars were funneled into the Democratic party from Ukraine, will there be arrests?

      There ought to be. Whether there are any is another matter.

      3. What do you think is the best SHTF gun? If you could have 2?

      For only one gun, an AR-15 and plenty of mags. For two, add my Sig-Sauer P-228 in 9mm, for three, add my Remington 870 with extended mag tube.

      4. Does your house look like a grocery store?

      Yes. Very much so.

      1. Z36, excellent answers and taste in firearms and calibers.

        With judicial watch checking on Soros and Biden on the interfering in Trump’s election it won’t be too much longer. This is why Nancy Pelosi stated Trump left them no choice. Impeach or be tried…LOL

        1. Thor1,

          I think you’re quite correct. The libs are in a panic mode. If Trump wins the impeachment (he will), the libs will be inundated with DOJ investigations. There are a number already in progress, the media just refuses to report them. Moreover, if Trump gets reelected and the House goes back to the Republicans and the Senate stays Republican, many of the Democraps who remain, might find themselves under ethics investigations followed by expulsion from the House and/or Senate.

          The libs know this and they are scared out of their wits.

          If Trump gets reelected, there is a very high probability he will have at least one Supreme Court pick when RBG finally gives up the ghost. That scares them too.

          1. Thor1,

            If only it was burnt bread. It was a bloody great chunk of flaming steel drum. Luckily I wasn’t long back from Vietnam and still had good reflexes. It was coming straight at my head, I dropped down on the bleachers, and it flew just over me. I was sitting on the top row, so no one was behind me to get hit. It flew about 30-yards further on before hitting the ground. I was quite lucky.

          2. What folks don’t understand is that the House can impeach Trump. That is just a verbal slap on the wrist unless the Senate acts on the House’s decision. The Senate alone has authority to remove Trump from office. Republicans control the Senate. Duh! I am so sick of ignorance in the mainstream media that I can barley watch.

        2. Thor1,

          With judicial watch checking on Soros and Biden on the interfering in Trump’s election it won’t be too much longer. This is why Nancy Pelosi stated Trump left them no choice. Impeach or be tried…LOL

          It goes well beyond that, since they know they cannot beat him in a fair election, and a 2nd term gives him a good shot for at least one or maybe 2 SCOTUS appointments, that would screw up their socialist utopian dream for all time.
          As for Soros, I don’t know why he’s still polluting the atmosphere with the CO2 he’s making.
          As for Biden, he’s a joke and is done, real world walking dead.

    2. Thor’s questions:

      1. What do you think will happen in Virginia with the new anti gun bills anti self-defense training even boxing?
      Not sure, since I don’t live there and for those who do, you get the government you vote for.
      2. If Dems send impeachment to the Senate and the truth comes out about how our taxpayer dollars were funneled into the Democratic party from Ukraine, will there be arrests?
      Probably not until Trump’s second term
      3. What do you think is the best SHTF gun? If you could have 2?
      A solid center fire handgun that fits you and you can used to consistently & accurately hit a target AND an over under combination like my Savage model 42’s in .22 / 410 or .22 WMR / 20 gauge. Very versatile.
      4. Does your house look like a grocery store?
      No, More like the warehouse of a grocery store, with lots of inventoried boxes.

      1. Top,

        The British are coming, the British are coming… No wait The Democrats are coming , The Democrats are coming…..

        While I have a savage V24 in 30/30 20ga plus a short lane adapter for a total of 9 calibers for that weapon, I would have to go with a solid AR 15 and a G17 or G22 with extra conversion kits. If it was survival only in SHTF in the wilderness, the v24 would be an excellent choice. But SHTF in a world with gangs more firepower would be needed.

        1. Thor1,

          I would have to go with a solid AR 15 and a G17 or G22 with extra conversion kits.

          I have several good 9mm handguns and will be picking up the G17 in the next few days. I have a gun that can fire 5.56 and numerous other cartridges, and the only way to limit me to the 2 guns in your question would be to dispose of at least 25 that I now own.

          If it was survival only in SHTF in the wilderness, the v24 would be an excellent choice. But SHTF in a world with gangs more firepower would be needed.

          First of all, I live closer to that wilderness than any gang ridden urban area and you need to define firepower. The dictionary defines it as: ” the destructive capacity of guns, missiles, or a military force (used with reference to the number and size of weapons available).”
          Our MAG (military force) has many firearms & skills between them, and while single shot black powder cannons with grapeshot or IED’s may not be common or even legal, pre SHTF; post SHTF the whole battlefield will change. Communications and over watch (command & control) will be as important, as ordinance, and out here where explosives are still used to dislodge stumps, for personal fireworks displays, or for fun to shoot, exploding targets is common, these rural everyday items can be easily repurposed.
          Wander around almost any farm and you know how much fertilizer and diesel fuel you are likely to find? These are both of course used for their intended purposes; but, post SHTF one can only imagine how they could be repurposed.
          For a demonstration of what could happen, even at the fringes of a rural protected area, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edRbcTXAijY
          Nuff’ said I think, about firepower.

          1. Top,

            We were talking small arms, but if you want to go cannons…… One of my mag members has a 155mm, one has a 105mm and one has a 75mm all nice and legal. Another member worked on tanks and armored vehicles and now restores them so ha ha ha to a metal tube of grapeshot…… LOL

          2. TOP,

            My personal favorite is fougasse, even though I almost got taken out by a chunk of 55-gal barrel used in a demo. The combat engineers thought the viewing stands were far enough away. Anyway, fougasse is nasty and has the benefit of being usable in almost any size container. Just need some explosive to set it off and spread it around.

          3. Zulu 3-6,

            My personal favorite is fougasse, even though I almost got taken out by a chunk of 55-gal barrel used in a demo. The combat engineers thought the viewing stands were far enough away. Anyway, fougasse is nasty and has the benefit of being usable in almost any size container. Just need some explosive to set it off and spread it around.

            I assume you of course mean the ”Flame Fougasse” and not the French bread. I hadn’t heard of them; but, some quick research indicates they were used hundreds of years ago, with black powder as the propellant, sometimes using a hole in the ground instead of a container.
            The standard chemicals you find on the farm can no doubt be employed to make mayhem, with just some imagination and a bit of out of the box thinking

          4. Thor1m

            Wait, I have a .50 cal flintlock……. Haha….LOL

            I have a T/C New Englander percussion cap muzzleloader in .50 caliber. Mine will shoot a bit faster than yours; but, not enough to make a difference against real firepower. It will however make a nice ½ inch hole in a deer @ 100 yards.

          5. i knew someone who made a small but functional blackpowder cannon out of 2 inch well pipe with more added around it, don’t recall all the details just that he would fire off marble size ball bearings into junk cars with it (guess like grapeshot), guy was a friend of my crazy uncle

        2. Thor1,

          We were talking small arms, but if you want to go cannons…… One of my mag members has a 155mm, one has a 105mm and one has a 75mm all nice and legal.

          We were initially talking small arms; but, you changed the subject by talking about firepower when you stated: “But SHTF in a world with gangs more firepower would be needed.” without a clear definition, so I used the one from the dictionary that stated: “the destructive capacity of guns, missiles, or a military force (used with reference to the number and size of weapons available).”, so other than small arms were game.

          Another member worked on tanks and armored vehicles and now restores them so ha ha ha to a metal tube of grapeshot…… LOL

          In that case we’ll have to substitute grapeshot with a copper shaped charge; but, the pedestrians with their firepower will be the bigger threat and quite vulnerable to grapeshot or just about any other shrapnel we can find.

      2. Beg Pardon TOP, but even when i lived in VA, i wouldn’t have voted for the likes of Northam. What happened is we had an influx of foreigners into the Tidewater, Richmond, Charlottesville, and Northern VA areas, and their votes overwhelmed the more conservative Southside, central, SW, and FarSW parts of the state, which are less populated. So we are watching a state we both love, go down in flames ,at some point. Our daughter knows when it gets too bed, to head out our way. My family may elect to stay there, although their skills are welcome if they choose not to. Hubby doesnt have any family left except two cousins; one is welcome, the other not. So we shall see. But it breaks our hearts.

        1. Babycatcher,
          I wasn’t trying to be smug and I do understand and have empathy for the plight of those folks; but, unfortunately it’s the same many places. Here we’re holding on to keep Ohio at least a little pink; but, have the same problems with Cincinnati and Cleveland, large population centers that often try to rill over the other parts of the state.
          I think Virginias biggest problem is that the whole Delmarva Peninsula is infected with denizens of the DC swamp and is too close to the east coast progressives. Like the PDRK, people get stuck there, financially unable to move and politically unable to function. Laws like this are getting some to move and other than campaign for better representation, I don’t know what else can be done.

    3. Thor1’s Questions:

      1. I saw an article (Dec 5th) that said there is now 43 countries (from the map that looks like 1/3rd) that are 2A sanctuary counties! Although the libs/progressives will not take this into account, it should tell them something.

      2. I’m not expecting politicians to arrest politicians for doing politician things.

      3. The one you have with you. I have several favorites, my real answer would depend on where I am and what the situation is.

      4. Nope, I have food on my shelves!

      1. JP,

        1 Makes me wonder if they try door to door….

        2. Justice needs to be served or we are in WROL

        3. Excellent answer

        4. How big are your shelves……LOL

    4. Tara’s questions:

      1.Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt?

      2.What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster?

      1. Haven’t for awhile, Deer,rabbit, pheasant, duck,turkey. We have deer that come in behind the fence a salt lick or apples would make great lures. Turkeys, rabbits and squirrels are abundant but have been cut down by birds of pray and coyotes. There is a swamp behind my house with frogs and blackberries.

      2. One year of dog food, 1 year of heart worm medication, some other dog prescriptions. There is a vets office 3 miles from my house so might be able to obtain rabies vaccine after SHTF

      Interesting video

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpp5K5HhBSs

      1. Thor1,

        Interesting video

        Sort of; but, I think this guy lives in a city and watches too much MSM.
        My answers BTW, to all of his questions would be a resounding ”YES!!!”
        While my 20/20 vision is fine, my children never walked to school, water will never be an issue, since even untreated creek water can flush the toilet. He asks about having a pool and ”distilling” the water, like there are no other ways to treat it or uses for it. He seems to know everyone’s mindset & situation, “guaranteeing” that one year post SHTF we would all be wishing we could have done more to prepare, while at the same time only mentioning Venezuela, Syria, and other persistently, perennial, perpetually unstable regions of the world, ignoring the recovery of Japan and all of Europe, in the aftermath of two world wars.
        When he mentions thinking “You could have got more weapons”, not only is he using poor grammar; but, seems to miss out on important things like ammunition and spare parts for the weapons you have.
        As for paying the personal ”toll and the tax”, I suspect I was paying those before this guy was out of diapers.
        Also, I somehow never realized I / we were <strong<”Servants of the 1st world” just spending needlessly, but. I still think that’s better than being a peasant in the 3rd world.
        Skills like 1st aid, CPR and ”Stop the bleed” are common in my area, since rural people know that they are always their own 1st responders.
        As for diagnosing and treating common ailments, my neighbors, a Fire Chief Paramedic and his Fire fighter Nurse practitioner wife are members of our MAG who help fill those gaps he seems concerned with.
        When he asks if I could “take on another 50 pounds of rice” I have to smile, since we’re almost out of storage space for such items.
        Back to water he asks about “volatile organics” and if we have the filtration to “get those out”, perhaps not realizing that you don’t filter them out, because their volatility means they have a lower vapor pressure than water, and are easily removed in a simple open boiling pot.
        He asks if you can communicate locally, and as I was writing this I talked simplex (direct radio to radio) using only 15 watts of power, to a couple of “local” hams, one (a 75 year old retired engineer) located 25 miles away and another (a 16 year old high school kid) located 10 miles away in between us, so that answer would also be yes!!!
        He then mentions that, “The strong will survive”, never defining “strong” and that there will be losses. Hello captain obvious.
        Next comes the food shortages and the die off of swine that the unnamed “researchers” claim cannot be stopped, failing to mention that it’s mostly only affecting China.
        He tells us that we can be the persons who will not lose our stuff to the angry or the violent by setting up our own watch today, using unnamed trigger events, such as ”If this happens, Do this”, once again with no suggestions for the newbie’s.
        He mentions the common programming logic of “IF”, “THEN”, “ELSE”; but, His ”if’s include bank closures, no food at Wal-Mart, or biological outbreaks, social unrest and riots; but, does not even suggest any solutions except doubling your food purchases when shortages get resolve, thereby helping the next shortage occur.
        He says we should talk to others, something we’ve been doing for decades, sometimes with success.
        For all of his scenarios we have one response. Stay put & Shelter In Place.

        He sounds desperate and I think doesn’t respect or understand the fact that there are a lot of people on board and well ahead of him.

        1. RE:FULL SPECTRUM SURVIVAL, He is also another one I watch periodically. If you are an older prepper, someone doing this for years, he may not be able to teach you much, OF course regions matter. Preps and foraging in North Bama may not be the same as North IOWA/ nor anywhere else..
          …One needs to watch more than one video before someone is labeled as” scared” He is trying to get people to consider senario’s. He has a platform that reaches many and is taking advantage of every opportunity, as he can.. I may or may not agree with HIS answers ..He is Diligent !
          He is talking to the new Prepper or the one who has little knowledge base.He has raised a lot of questions, that need to be answered…everyone needs to be able to answer about communications and security issues. Everyone has to set their own priorities. Some are more fortunate in their progress than others. The city dweller who knows he needs to do something differently…. trying to get people” woke” before it is too late to prepare…and it is too late to prepare for long term once the trucks stop running and .. supplies are limited.
          He has been into survival for a good while.. He is not scared, He is not desperate.
          He understands that the more people who ARE prepared for short term emergencies and medium term emergencies- the better off ALL will be to respond to long term situations. He has a patreon channel and does survival cards for his supporters, They are from their own effort.. they take the pictures do the write ups and they are weather protected, for daily use….
          Think about it… One crop failure in multiple regions..is one crisis, 2nd year of un harvested crops and no planting is a second crisis, with little to fall back on in reserve. Limited reserves remaining will = many shortages unless one is able to produce much of what they need… Victory Gardens is one answer, community gardens is another, hydroponics, or aquaponics, sprouting, green houses.. there are lots of answers that can enable people to produce a good portion of needs. Excesses can be swapped for things one is not able to grow….
          Consider if you do not grow or have ability to harvest “foraged” foods, or filter your water, how long will it take you to adjust to your new normal? How long will it take you to add this to your automatic responses? Water born illness becomes greatest danger quickly after a large event…., if you have not already begun learning and have the products needed, it will take much longer for your responses to adjust to your new normal. .Foraged foods can greatly stretch other reserved foods…
          This GSM is going to extend well beyond the 2020’s and come to a critical…situation that in the past has ended dynasties..

    5. thors questions, i herd nothing about it but if true then i suspect ny will copy the law shortly, i’ll just ignore it like i do most of the bs laws

      2 probably not

      3 personally i would take my sodbuster anyday. its an old junker single shot 12 gauge that i got for $20 and rebuilt myself, i know every part of that gun and can fix it, i am also very good with it, its versitile and i am fast reloading it, and i can make my own reloads if i have to. my second gun would probably be a tossup between an sks or a mini 14

      no, its mostly covered up, but pull the sheets up and look under the bed and its packed with canning jars, open cabinets and boxes, and theres more food. don’t have a lot of room in a 20×20 cabin

      1. Nemoseto,

        don’t have a lot of room in a 20×20 cabin

        So you are one of the original subscribers of the ”Tiny-house movement”, an architectural and social movement that advocates living simply in small homes. The 2018 International Residential Code: Appendix Q: ‘Tiny Houses’ defines a tiny house; however, a residential structure under 400 ft2 is generally considered a tiny home.
        No disrespect to you; but, how sheik and trendy. LOL

        1. this place is huge compared to wat i lived in befoe it, before i bought a bigger 26 acre lot an built the 20×20 (with half story loft, 8×8 addition on back, 8×8 covered back porch and 10×20 covered front porch) i lived in a 12×20 storage shed (that i made an adition on about 10×8, and a covered porch made from logs, branches and pallets, and tunneled under to make a cellar after cutting a hole in the floor), then before the 12×20 i was living in a 10×14 tool shed for about 2 years, wile saving money to upgrade to the 12×20.

          its not a small house movement, its going back to normal houses before “cheap abundant energy” was a thing. around here there are lots of houses about the same size as my cabin but most were built in the 1920s or earlier, smaller houses were easier to light and heat. then things got bigger and bigger over the last century.

          here is a picture of my cabin taken about a month ago https://ibb.co/8P7Tp1n

          1. Nemoseto,

            this place is huge compared to wat i lived in befoe it, before i bought a bigger 26 acre lot an built the 20×20 (with half story loft, 8×8 addition on back, 8×8 covered back porch and 10×20 covered front porch) i lived in a 12×20 storage shed (that i made an adition on about 10×8, and a covered porch made from logs, branches and pallets, and tunneled under to make a cellar after cutting a hole in the floor), then before the 12×20 i was living in a 10×14 tool shed for about 2 years, wile saving money to upgrade to the 12×20.

            You sound like a yong single guy. LOL
            I sort of lived in a 10×10 wall tent with a friend one summer working at a camp; but, there was a small bathroom and shower in another building for our use, and a large mess hall for meals. I was 16 then.
            Your 20×20 (400 ft2) cabin is a little larger than my new 14×24 outbuilding (336 ft2) and standing in there while it’s still mostly empty I pictured myself living there, once we have the wood burning stove in place, and it mmight work out if I were still single. The DW and a few friends initially called it my doghouse; but, they were joking (I think).
            My only concern would be a bathroom containing at least a toilet (or outhouse?) and a shower stall. Considering I have 30 years on you, and the fact that I used one as a kid both at our cottage and at camp, an outhouse doesn’t sound at all like fun.
            Of course everyone should know the distance maxim about the placement of those little shacks. ”The distance to an outhouse is always 100 yards too far away in the winter, and 100 yards too close in the summer.” No LOL here, since this is serious business.

            its not a small house movement, its going back to normal houses before “cheap abundant energy” was a thing. around here there are lots of houses about the same size as my cabin but most were built in the 1920s or earlier, smaller houses were easier to light and heat. then things got bigger and bigger over the last century.

            That might be a regional thing, since the two houses I’ve owned were / are both large.
            My first house had about 3400 ft2 and covered 3 stories. The 1st floor had 11 foot ceilings, and it had an interesting lighting system in it. From the center of nearly every room, was a square brass “tube” pointing straight down with the fancy “Y” on it. One end of the “Y” had a standard Edison light socket, and the other had a white Ceramic piece, meant to affix a mantle. There was a small valve that when turned allowed natural gas to flow. I affixed a Coleman mantle, lit it to burn to ash, and then tried it out. It gave off that standard mantle lantern, hot white light.
            I was told that in the early to mid 20’s, the local small power company only provided power from mid to late afternoon to 11PM, since all good people should be in bed by then; but, those that could afford it, could use the gas lamps for lighting after dark. Note that electricity back then was meant mostly for lighting.
            When I remodeled the house, those gas fixtures were removed, since I thought they were too dangerous in our modern world.
            Our current house, also built around 1920 & upgraded / added to in the mid 60’s, started out @ around 1750 ft2; but, now contains about 3150 ft2 with some additions. The original house had 4 bedrooms (2 up & 2 down), a living room and a kitchen. An addition ( to the 2nd floor added my workshop, radio room, man cave (12×30) and a 1st floor backroom over the basement that also contains the bathroom and is becoming our summer kitchen.
            So it seems at least from my experience, ”going back” to the smaller house may just be a regional thing, since many old houses around there are rather large.

          2. Zulu 3-6,

            Perfect front porch to sit on, whittle a stick, and sip on a jar of shine. 🙂

            Sip on a jar of shine? In NY state? You trying to get our friend arrested? LOL
            Heck, since whittling involves a weapon, that might add even more trouble. LOL

          3. TOP,

            A dream, simply a dream. Some states you can buy shine at a liquor store legally. Render unto Caesar and all that.

          4. Top, i lived in a car when i was 18, compard to that my 10×14 was huge.

            its probably a regional thing, this area is the 45th parralel, exactly half way between the equater and the north pole. we can have summers of 105 degrees and high humidity, and winter temeratures of -40, in some places its been recorded at -80 (in the mountains). heating a house in winter would take a lot of wood if it was large, it was comon in older houses to close off unused rooms and let them get cold. houses around here from before the 20s tended to be very small unless the people who owned it were rich enough to pay someone else to cut wood for them (no chainsaws back then, it was all ax and handsaws). tis time of year there is only about 7 hours of effective daylight (still dark at 7am, and dark again at 4pm, long nights and bitter cold), summer may have light from 430am till 10pm.

            alot of the small houses had additions added to them later, i got a 20×24 house in a tax auction (was falling apart but was better than wintering in my car), originally that would have been expected for a family of 4, there was an addition added in the 70s adding 2 more good size rooms, i mostly lived in the addition while i had that place.

            when i built my cabin i had a mind towards the possibility of adding on, the initial framing was done by a criminal amish who did half assed work (why the windows and door are slanted) dicked around most of the time then took off and i had to take him to amish court (complain to the deacon). i had planned for the ground floor to have 8 foot walls (the wall studs were cut to 6 foot, i am 6’3″ so if not for the 2x4s on the top and bottom i would hit my head on the ceiling, i cut the second story out eventually and raised it another 8 inches, but that made the loft much smaller). the A of the roof was supposed to be the other way so the windows faced east and west, not north and south, so i could use prevailing wind for cooling, and could mount the solar array on the roof. the A would then go to the covered porch. i would have also had the ability to make 12×20 additions off the east and west if i ever needed them (like adding 2 rooms being 10×12 eaach for each addition). i had to modify my design when the amish guy just half assed it and did whatever, then i spent a lot more time and money dealing with structural flaws from his half assed work.

            its not impossible to add on, i could add additions to the sides measuring 10×20 but would have to pull up the metal roofing and make it more complicated. i don’t see a need to right now, i am single and will probably stay that way, i am not amish or menonite and there are almost no women my own age in the area (most young people leave the area) and of the few that are there is a culture issue in that i value hard work, savings, self reliance, and they are attracted to fat guys with huge houses, 8 foot tvs, and new cars and $250,000 in debts. doesn’t help that i don’t drink or use drugs and spend all my time alone working.

            i have an outhouse now but at my old place i had a compost toilet (te small addition on my 12×20 was made to keep a wooden sawdust comode witha bucket i had to manually dump into a compost bin every week, based on technology used in nearby lake camplains island chain where septic systems are frowned upon, compost toilets are common there) i also had a shower stall with a hand pump herbicide sprayer used for water pressure, could heat water on the stove andd take a 15 minute shower with a 2 gallon tank one. i planned to have a compost toilet and shower in the 20×20 but again i ad to cange my plans based on the shitty work the amish did (don’t trust an amish with a white buggy, their comunity marks them that way when they are a crook or had been previously shunned). i have since built an 8×8 addition off the back with its own mini covered porch being 8×8, its not finished yet, i have to insulate it then get a new shower stall (i have a base from a camper and could use roofing metal for the sides but would rather wait and get a good fiberglass one). like the last shower it would work with a gray water filter (a barrel full of gravel) and just dump out in the woods. and the compost toilet could be emptied out the back door witha covered porch rather than carrying through the cabin. i put a lot of thought and planning into everything but i generally lack money, time, or have to deal with setbacks outside my control (cabin was up and i had a tub i could use on the porch and an outhouse, so the barn, worksop, chicken coop, and other financial concerns took priority over the compost toilet and shower)

            used to get away with an outhouse much closer to the cabin since it wasn’t a true outhouse at first, just a 4×4 building that i housed that compost toilet in. the 10×14 was too small to have it inside and the ground was too rocky to dig. i stopped using the outhouse building when i made an addition off the 12×20, then when i got a bigger lot (my old lot was just 4 acres) the first thing i did was move the outhouse building to it and set up a leantoo camp. after building andd moving into the 20×20 did i eventually modify the 4×4 to be a regular outhouse, but even then i only made a small hole and moved it every year, then tis summer i rented a trackhoe and put it in a perminant spot)

            here is a picture of my old 10×14 back in january of 2012, the outhouse is next to it sitting on pallets and houses the compost toilet. https://www.self-reliance.com/srmag/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/SetO_Series_Part1_03_opt.jpeg

            we got a heat wave right now, its 40 degrees out and raining, so stuck insde with my dial up speeds through a cell teather.

        2. Top and Zulu

          i don’t drink, i hate the taste, when i was a kid my father made a lot of alcohaul (i knew how to make fermented drinks before i learned to read, he used the still and didn’t teach me that stuff though) anyway his method of testing the quality was to make me drink some of each batch of whatever he made, if i could stomach it he threw it out as a wasted batch, but if i vomited he called it a good batch, hated the taste ever since. only time i messed with making any myself was to make mead or apple or wild grape wine, up to 15 gallons in a batch in the summer then gave out bottles to my friends as gifts.

          yes in ny a pointy stick is considered an assault weapon, though i probably piss off a lot of liberals by sitting on the same porch plinking cans with a 22

          1. nemoseto,

            I don’t drink or smoke either (anymore). I have tried shine and did not care for it a bit.

            Plinking with a .22 off that porch is a more than acceptable activity, in my book anyway.

    6. have you tried any of those new spam flavors? i seen a bacon flavor, a hickory smoked, and a teriaki a week ago. was thinking of buying one of each then mailing them to a friend who used to do tech support before he retired, like a sampler pack, but not include my name or return address, just use a fake one and see if he can guess who filled his mailbox with spam

        1. my tech support friend likes spam and has a sarcastic whitty sense of humor common among overweight nerds. i figure the joke would cost me $27 to buy it and ship it to him a few towns over but he would totally get the joke

  8. Hi all ,,,,,preps this week ,,,lots more sugar ,a 25 lb bag will fit in 6 + 2qt canning jars , Had to order more jars ,we use harvest guard lids and save the tin lids for real canning. Had a prep friend from a blog stop in , we are trying to build a network of like thinkers and build on the strong points of one another ,i like to contact and add one new person a week ,think something out with me ,let’s say you are on the road and SHTF would your chances be better walking home or being able to hole up with someone that you know is a prepper ? And have met ,and let’s say your the one at home would you like the extra help from someone you have some idea about ? And have some common ground with
    And as far as getting back home your much better off going in short day walks from prepper to prepper places , that can only work if you have info in advanced ,
    As for one bang stick a 10 22 ,or a 15 pistol with a 22 lr kit , As for a hand gun 1911 45 with 22lr conversion ,would not want a glock the fact that you should not shoot cast bullets is not to my liking ,a aluminum frame can be had for the 1911 to help the weight ,
    This is the driest year I can remember ,if things don’t change 2020 looks to be a bad year for AG ,I was out on the cat pushing dirt yesterday in a normal year would have been stuck till spring ,started getting planting trays ready every day is going to count next spring in the garden ,if you r going to have anything from the garden ,
    There is a war on food coming, Brazil just bought more beef packing houses in the USA ,J&B in Minnesota ,i don’t have time to explain how this is going to affect you right now , but it will ,
    The big yellow cat is calling ,work to do
    Tea and chocolate next time

    1. i always liked the look of the 1911 myself, always wanted on in 45 but i live in ny state, its almost impossible to get the papers to own a handgun. i actually thought about moving to maine just so i could own one. good choice on lead hole puncher

      1. Nemoseto,

        I have 2 handguns in .45 One is a Ruger .45 and it’s a bit on the big size modeled after the 1911. I can carry it outside waistband but not really comfortable. My every day carry is a Glock 30S in .45 ACP. It has an 8 round magazine and I carry it in waistband and carry 2 spare magazines in my back pocket. The S is for a shortened frame so it is smaller and lighter than the Ruger and it’s very comfortable to wear and carry.

        The driving force behind .45, since I’ve carried 9mm for a long time, is the realization that, being on the church defensive team, that if someone comes in acting ugly they are apt to be wearing body armor if they are serious. I went with the .45 in the belief that I’d have sufficient knock down power in a body shot even against body armor. It will probably knock them down or at least make them unsteady on their feet long enough for me to approach and put in a head shot or whatever is required to neutralize them. I don’t think the 9mm will have quite the same effect.

        Speaking of large caliber, I have a Rossi Wizard which is a multi-chambering system based on a single shot barreling break open action where you can change out the various barrels quickly and efficiently even though it is a single shot (I also have the Rossi trefecta or some call it the triplets with barrels in 20 gauge, .22LR and .243) and I have the 45-70 barrel on it. I went out to the range and had ear protection and an extra padded jacket and shot it 3 times. The first time wasn’t too bad, the second shot hurt my shoulder and made my ears ring and the third I flinched on so that didn’t go well. I like it in 30-30, 30-06, .243, 20 gauge, 12 gauge and .410 and just really like the versitility of the whole system.

        Your milage may vary and my home defense go to is the 870 in 12 gauge and my Bushmaster AR-15 carrying a 30 round magazine in .223

        1. Cliff,

          I have 2 handguns in .45 One is a Ruger .45 and it’s a bit on the big size modeled after the 1911. I can carry it outside waistband but not really comfortable.

          That sounds like my Ruger’s in 9 mm (P89DC &P95PR), both of which are great reliable, accurate firearms; but, the P89, being cast and milled metal is a bit heavy. The P95PR is a lot lighter; but, that integral Picatinny rail means I cannot find a holster for it, so it comes with me as a backup, in a fanny pack
          Can you tell me how tall you are? We’re about the same age; but, my small frame, barely 5’ 6” means I don’t have a lot of places to stash and carry a large firearm, so I generally carry a Bersa Thunder 380 (6+1) along with a S&W 640 stainless, 5 shot snobby with extra speed loaders. I have friends 6’ and taller who I swear could hide a howitzer in their back pocket.

          My every day carry is a Glock 30S in .45 ACP. It has an 8 round magazine and I carry it in waistband and carry 2 spare magazines in my back pocket. The S is for a shortened frame so it is smaller and lighter than the Ruger and it’s very comfortable to wear and carry.

          While I would like to carry at least a 9 mm, the P series Ruger’s are not working out well for carry, so today (actually yesterday at this point in time) I purchased a new G17, so once I’ve had time to practice and found a good paddle holster for it, I’ll be carrying it and the S&W.

          The driving force behind .45, since I’ve carried 9mm for a long time, is the realization that, being on the church defensive team, that if someone comes in acting ugly they are apt to be wearing body armor if they are serious. I went with the .45 in the belief that I’d have sufficient knock down power in a body shot even against body armor.

          It is really sad that our houses of education and worship require people with tasks such as yours; but, I have friends who have similar positions here, and some schools have been covertly allowing properly trained teachers to carry concealed.
          If however you think the threat could include body armor, perhaps a rifle, kept ready at hand, might be a better solution.

          Speaking of large caliber, I have a Rossi Wizard which is a multi-chambering system based on a single shot barreling break open action where you can change out the various barrels quickly and efficiently even though it is a single shot (I also have the Rossi trefecta or some call it the triplets with barrels in 20 gauge, .22LR and .243) and I have the 45-70 barrel on it.

          I’ve seen those rifles and have a similar, older system with a T/C contender. You can get the rifle stock for it; but, I find it works well as a handgun, especially when carefully firing single shots.
          I also have a pair of Savage model 24’s chambered in.22WMR / 20 gauge & .22 / 67 gauge (.410 bore). I cut my hunting teeth on that .22 / 410 and couldn’t find another for my collection for more than 20 years; but, dud purchase tht .22 WMR / 20 gauge new as a poor substitute right out of college.

          I like it in 30-30, 30-06, .243, 20 gauge, 12 gauge and .410 and just really like the versitility of the whole system.

          It sounds great and I would love one; but, I’ll stick to my Contender and Savage’s, since I would really also like to stay married. LOL

          Your milage may vary and my home defense go to is the 870 in 12 gauge and my Bushmaster AR-15 carrying a 30 round magazine in .223

          I had both a Colt 20” match HBAR and a Bushmaster 16” XM-15; but, with my vision issues I sold them and now have a CZ Scorpion EVO 3 in 9 mm, plus 2 Ruger’s and the new Glock, so I can stock up mostly on 9 mm when on sale or if I have extra cash. Because of my small frame and the pacemaker, we now have only 20 & 67 gauge, with our best home defense being the Mossberg SA-20 tactical in of course 20 gauge.
          Things like home invasions don’t seem to occur out in rural areas around here; but, we do have wireless perimeter alarms and solar powered motion sensing LED lights to give us some warning of people on the property, especially at odd hours.
          My fear of using an AR for home defense is mostly for city folks whose neighbors are not hundreds of yards away and who live in housing not as substantial as these old rural homes, and where one errant round can pass through numerous neighbors’ houses.

          1. TOP,

            I’m 5’7″ and while not overly tall I’m a little bit bigger around than my active duty days, tipping the scales at 190 pounds. I wear mostly tee shirts and always keep my shirt tail out to cover my carry piece. If people always see me like that they don’t wonder if I am carrying or not. Friends know I am, everyone else doesn’t have a need to know.

            The key to any rifle used in home defense is shot placement. Given a 30 round magazine it would be unusual for me to fire more than 2 shots as I don’t “spray and pray” like I did in a war zone. If I don’t have a clear shot with sure knowledge of what is behind the target I’m not going to fire. That is why I would attend to most bumps in the night with the shotgun. With the dogs barking there is no way to quietly check out anything.

            I would love a TC but when I went shopping they were too pricey for me. That is why I went with the Rossi. The base rifle was just over $200 at the time and it came with one barrel. The additional calibers I have picked up have ranged from a used 20 gauge for $75 to a new 30-30 for $185 so it’s not super expensive. Buying scopes for each of the rifle barrels is another question.

            As I age my eyesight is getting a little bit worse every year and I have issues at night with being able to focus on oncoming car headlights and just lights in my eyes in general.

            As for having a rifle to battle body armor, I carried a rifle in the car for a long time as a backup, but since most incursions would occur in the church proper there would be no time to fetch it and bring it in to action so I settle for the .45 There has been a rash of truck break-ins lately where the people are going for electronics and guns. Not a good idea to have Glock stickers and other such decals on your back window as it’s an open invitation to someone to break out a window just to check.

            It’s almost 4:30am now and I’ve been up about an hour catching up on the news and gossip so it’s time to strap on the work day.

            Keep smiling, keep prepping and enjoy this nice Monday.

          2. Cliff,

            I’m 5’7″ and while not overly tall I’m a little bit bigger around than my active duty days, tipping the scales at 190 pounds. I wear mostly tee shirts and always keep my shirt tail out to cover my carry piece. If people always see me like that they don’t wonder if I am carrying or not.

            I just barely touch 5’ 6” and topped out @ 243 back in 2006; but, watching calories and eating more healthy I’m now hanging in around 145-150.
            I carry OWB in a paddle holster; but, always wear a 5.11 tactical vest as a cover garment. In it I also carry a wallet, keys, spare magazines, a small FAK, and often a few radios or other things, and most people don’t even associate it with a firearm. When asked I’ll point at the DW’s purse and tell them that’s the function, which is mostly true. When I head out the door, I put it on and like a purse; I have my wallet containing ID’s and CHL, cash, & credit / debit cards, plus keys and other tools. The only people that have asked about it were satisfied with the purse analogy or asked if I was a photographer or had been fishing, so hide in plain sight seems to work.

            Friends know I am, everyone else doesn’t have a need to know.

            Same here; however, when meeting some friends at a meal or meeting, we’ll often acknowledge who is carrying, primarily so we know who to back up or who can back us up should the need arise.

            The key to any rifle used in home defense is shot placement. Given a 30 round magazine it would be unusual for me to fire more than 2 shots as I don’t “spray and pray” like I did in a war zone. If I don’t have a clear shot with sure knowledge of what is behind the target I’m not going to fire. That is why I would attend to most bumps in the night with the shotgun.

            I have no problem with a rifle in general; but, too many people think that having an AR is somehow magical; however, in urban or suburban settings, or trailer parks they can be really dangerous to others. Here in our rural area with the closest neighbor a few hundred yards distant, we have relatively clear fields of fire for a handgun or shotgun in any direction, and a rifle in at least two directions.

            I would love a TC but when I went shopping they were too pricey for me. That is why I went with the Rossi.

            I wanted a T?C for a long time and simply could not afford one; but, back in the 1990’s I taught classes with a local pro gun organization that ran gun shows for our funding. The instructors generally handled the entrances, checking any guns coming into the show to make sure they were no loaded.
            One Saturday morning while working the show we had a large line at one entrance, so I walked the line and started checking guns to help things along. One guy had a used T/C with 3 barrels for .22, .223/5.56, and .357 magnum and was stupid enough to tell me that his ”old lady” told him to get rid of some guns, since they were short on cash for rent.
            He was hoping to get $350-400 for the combination, so I whipped out 18 $20.00 bills ($360.00) and told him it was all I had (a tiny fib); but, he would also save the $5.00 by not attending the show. He took the money and left.
            I have since placed a T/C 3-9 power scope on the .357 barrel and use it for deer hunting. The whole thing was pretty much dumb luck and being in the right place at the right time.

            Buying scopes for each of the rifle barrels is another question.

            True and the .357 is the only one with a scope. The .22 and .223/5.56 are OK without one, or were until I had my vision problems.
            I’ve used that 5.56 using Winchester soft points to dispatch more than a few ground hogs over the years.

    2. 0ldhomesteader,

      Thanks for the reminder about the Harvest Guards… They will be on my next purchase.

      And most definitely would love to know some like minded individuals around here. I’ve been trying to find people for at least 5 years now, and the one group “close by” as in 20 miles away, fizzled out and no one wanted to talk about that. I keep trying though. Going to start back up going to the local ARRL meeting to see if there is anyone that wants to talk. Need to also check out the local emergency groups to see if there is any training/classes to meet some new people.

  9. Hey all, today is my birthday, turned 69. Spent a lot of the day thinking about Pearl Harbor Day and the horrible thing that was loosed upon us and how we fought back and won and now we are great friends with the people that did so much damage. Thinking too about North Korea saying they are going to give us a great Christmas present. That bodes ill for people on the Western side of the country or our folks overseas or on board the Navy ships.

    Today was the annual Dallas/Paulding County Christmas parade. We had enough people walking so DW and I got to sit on the sidelines and watch the floats go by. Our float won 1st place in the religious category and we won the Hiram Mayor Award. Very proud of the folks that designed and built the float. When it was all over and they opened the roads back up at 3pm the float came back to the staging area and we had it stripped down to the bare trailer and everything put away and were headed home by 5pm. That was the last of the big candy efforts for this year.

    As far as prepping, we picked up more Bear Creek soup mixes and more salt. I filled another 2 15 gallon water containers and took them to the shelter. I did not invest in the big freeze dried food sales that were going on the last week or two, instead just bought more canned goods of stuff we like to eat and added that to the rotation. I picked up more .22LR and .22mag ammo and found some good deals on 20 gauge shotgun shells at Walmart. Our local Walmart is getting out of handgun ammo and assault rifle ammo so it is being put on sale at good prices. I buy what I can as I can.

    PMs are down a good bit this week and it is a good buying opportunity for 90 percent silver coins and .999 silver bars. I didn’t pick any up this week as I’m good for now but did consider it.

    As far as the questions, I don’t hunt. I envy people who do and who have the time to do it and know what to do with the kills to get the meat into the larder. We will have to make do with the food we have put up but I am well armed and well positioned with ammo so if I have to shoot something I can do so.

    I’m going to stop talking now and go take my birthday nap.

    Keep smiling, keep prepping and go to church. If you go, keep supporting your church. If you don’t go, give it a try, it’ll do your soul a lot of good.

    1. My Dad’s birthday was today God rest his soul. I played a game of pool for him today, he won, I scratched on the 8 ball…. Hit the heavy bag and speed bag…..he was a boxer…..saluted the flag…he was a soldier who fought in WW2….I then wished him happy birthday…..

    2. Cliff,
      69 today makes you a middle aged old guy. LOL
      I’ll turn 69 next April and the DW turned 69 last May, putting you smack dab in the middle. So far, late 60’s isn’t bad as we just had dinner yesterday with a friend (also a retired EE) and his wife who are 75.
      As for naps, you should already be well practiced with those by now, however the DW still has trouble with them, something I really don’t understand.

      1. TOP
        I’m up early and have been in the office since about 4am. I find, even at this advanced age into Middle Age that I don’t sleep as much during the night. My nap yesterday was very successful and then I woke up to watch Jeopardy and had a snack and then had another before bed nap in my chair. DW woke up and her waking woke the dog sleeping in my lap which woke me up so we all made our pitstops and headed on off to bed for real sleep.

        I do marvel at the contestants on Jeopardy. They answer some of the strangest questions but then falter on things that common sense tells you the answer. Seems we have a generation or two that are very book smart but seem to be lacking on real world knowledge and quite possibly skills.

        I’m going to put work away and get ready for church and a lunch out to a fancy Italian place with DW who is taking me out to birthday lunch today.

        Enjoy the rest of the weekend

        1. Cliff,

          I’m up early and have been in the office since about 4am. I find, even at this advanced age into Middle Age that I don’t sleep as much during the night. My nap yesterday was very successful and then I woke up to watch Jeopardy and had a snack and then had another before bed nap in my chair.

          This seems to be a common pattern for me also; but, the DW has her own schedule. Quite often she passes out by 8 or 9 PM; but, is then wide awake around 4 or 5 the next morning. Ever since we’ve been married, one of our biggest clashes was that of me, the night owl and her, the early bird.
          I will however, often be up most of the night, and sometimes on our morning vehicle traffic net when I talk with the younger hams on their way to work, they’ll ask if I’m up or still up.

          DW woke up and her waking woke the dog sleeping in my lap which woke me up so we all made our pitstops and headed on off to bed for real sleep.

          With me that’s the cat and quite often we’ll just nap, in our respective recliners, since they are comfortable.
          As for the pit stops and the snacking, I heard an interesting description that describes me rather well: “At my age, I have achieved perfect balance. I eat half as much and pee twice as often.”
          What really happens to me in retirement is that I eat when I’m hungry and sleep when I’m tired.

          I do marvel at the contestants on Jeopardy. They answer some of the strangest questions but then falter on things that common sense tells you the answer. Seems we have a generation or two that are very book smart but seem to be lacking on real world knowledge and quite possibly skills.

          I try to watch Jeopardy when I can and can tell you up front how I’ll do based on the category. I can generally nail science, Math, most historical and geographical questions; but, art, most music, sports, and movies just fly by me, while many contestants nail those. Give me all math & science and I’ll hit 99%; but, I suspect those same questions if I was a contestant, would stump me at least half the time as I was just trying to push the button.
          As for being lacking on real world knowledge and quite possibly skills, it would depend, since I also like watching the little interviews to see who’s playing. We’ll see doctors, accountants, plumbers, and a plethora of vocational skill sets, most of which are useful; but, then see travel agents and home decoratin coordinators, and other things that make me think: “There’s a real job like that?”

          I’m going to put work away and get ready for church and a lunch out to a fancy Italian place with DW who is taking me out to birthday lunch today.

          Enjoy yourself and get enough to take home leftovers for those late night snacks, and happy birthday once again. LOL

          Since I cannot drive on the roads, for my birthday a few years back, I had the DW take me to a Skywarn class held on that day and stay for the class. I think she would have rather taken me to a nice dinner. LOL

    3. Happy Birthday, Cliff. I was born in the pink hospital in Hawaii. So I know the damage that was done first hand. My son was scheduled to be in the twin towers that day–he was supposed to pick up a check for some art work he sold. The company called him a day earlier and said his check was ready. He picked up his check Sept. 10.

  10. Hi Everyone,

    Pretty nippy here in middle TN. Damp and cold for the most part.

    This week had to have the HVAC repair guy out to check out the unit. It got in the 20’s earlier in the week and at 3 o’çlock in the morning, I am wide awake with all the racket the unit is making out side my bedroom wall. I will NEVER buy a house with the unit outside my bedroom wall… Anyway, I was outside multiple times with the rain and wind, and cold, with the flashlight trying to see what was happening. I know it makes noise when it goes into defrost, but when it was running, I noticed frost build up on the coils… I went back inside, tried to go back to sleep, and then it went into defrost mode, so out I go again, and saw that it was defrosting the coils like it should. I signed onto the computer to see if I could read up on anything, and a couple of people said that the frosting on the coils could be due to a leak. I had the unit checked out and cleaned thoroughly in Sept, so one would think there wouldn’t be anything wrong. So, I went back to bed, and then the unit came back on, and out I go again to see if there was frosting again, and sure enough there was… So, I got scared and turned the unit off for the remainder of the night… I called the repair guy and he came out Tuesday, and discovered a small leak, which he repaired and recharged the unit. Hopefully it is good to go… We haven’t had that cold of weather again so, I will be listening and watching again when we do. All I could think of, is that I was going to have to buy a new unit. This one is 12 years old, and they don’t make them like they used to, that’s for sure. I am glad I have my backup heat installed.

    Stopped by GW earlier in the week and found 4 patio chairs for cheap… I needed a couple more, so it worked out great.

    WM – bought a supply of cat food, some more canned food, canned meat. The pallet that was supposed to have Great Value sugar on it was completely empty. We are talking 4ft high x 4ft wide. The pallet next to it was down to the last couple of rows. It can’t be all caused from Thanksgiving cooking.

    Bought some 30lbs of sweet potatoes after TG. Still need to get them canned up.

    Took some things up to the Antique Barn to sell, took a couple of boxes to the donation place.

    My potato soup lasted pretty much all week. It was very tasty, and I had enough to share with the folks at the Antique Barn.

    Been reading up on some things. Some weather-wise and the havoc it has caused our farmers, which in turn affects us , and some on the state of the country. Not good at all.

    Tara’s questions:

    Do you go hunting as a part of your preps? What animals do you hunt? No and No.

    What plans do you have to treat your pets and livestock during a long-term disaster? I have a few treats stored up, but he REALLY likes canned tuna. So that will be his treat. No livestock.

    Prayers for unspoken requests, for the pack, for The President and for America.

    Have a great week everyone.

    1. Almost there,,,,,,watch out feeding tuna to cats ,a little once in a while won’t hurt but a steady diet will cause big problems ,,,,,
      Tea and chocolate

      1. Roger that 0ldhomesteader. Thanks for the advice. I may give it to him a couple times a year. I also have chicken that he likes if the canned and dry runs out.

        And I think I mistook Tara’s question. LOL

        Treat –
        verb – behave toward or deal with in a certain way; give medical care or attention to; try to heal or cure; apply a process or a substance to (something) to protect or preserve it or to give it particular properties; provide someone with (food, drink, or entertainment) at one’s own expense.

        noun – an event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure.

        I was interpreting as the noun… When Tara was wanting the verb.

        I have a few essential oils on hand. Will mix up a batch of the petroleum jelly and turpentine, and a batch of petroleum jelly and flowers of sulfur. I used to use the sulfur on my horses cuts. Really need to check into what grows natural or that I can grow that would also work.

        Tea and chocolate 🙂

  11. I have our house decorated now it feels very festive I’ve done a bit of Christmas shopping but mostly the kid’s are getting a stocking, but gift cards.. We did do a bit of shopping we stocked back up on thing’s we were running low on. Not a whole lot just because I don’t need to do much but keep up on cat food, and refrigerator foods. We have two more weeks until Christmas break.

    Questions 1 and 2 Is nothing and if anything happens to our cat, we would put her down and I’d be finished with animals.

    Have a blessed rest of your weekend:)

  12. 1) No to hunting now, when we were both younger deer hunting with my parents. I would spot them for my dad, he would come back to have us assist him bringing it out for processing.
    2)Pets-dog & cats DE for worming. Other items for them are OTC products. Horse she is going blind so for her we keep blood clotting powder, use DE for ticks & fleas.
    3)Prepping, our friends gave us apples from their tree. I will be putting up them for apple crisp, if I am real adventurous maybe canned apple pie filling.🤗
    Trying how to figure out how to replace the door insulation. Went searching through the U tube channels for what I needed, there was a wonder person explaining how to simple remove the material and replace it. Easy layman terms for the beginner, doing this instead of hiring a handyman for something so simple. Purchased what was required and brought it home, now I have to wait for the rain to stop pouring down in buckets.😊

  13. Hi Pack,
    I managed to finish up turkey bone broth,( from DD’s) and canned one pork roast. we ate one, and canned one. trouble with the canner, not sealing. Just replaced the rubber gasket, thinking replacement was a very old gasket… so will have to reprocess 5 jars.Have a back up unit. will go to the backup…until part replaced again… Still have our turkeys in the freezer, sale price here was 48c and 69c lb depending on region..will have to change their housing soon.
    .We purchased 5 products we had not been buying before, to try to see if they are acceptable to my super-taster. Have tried all 5, and 2 are great and 2 is acceptable.One is not…

    It is just a matter of personal preference, on these shelf stable ingredients ( brands, cut, other variances) I have finally learned not to buy products for our family because some other family “loves” them and thinks they are “wonderful”.
    We eat few “mixes” mostly using items purchased separately. Most items are purchased individually, due to dietary limitations of each member of our family. Creamed soups, cheese products, sweetened juice mixes, MSG, Bullion, SOY, most legumes and nuts.. are off our total family menu. Some of those selections can be eaten by some, so stocked separately…used sparingly. This means in a nutshell, there is NO emergency bucket that fits our family’s needs. For that reason our food storage would appear really boring to most people. and few know where it is..
    Have already been looking toward planting of two gardens/alternate location….as a possibility.,(Do not yet know, if will be possible with limitations existing- beyond control)… more like the patch” of a single crop,.. corn, potatoes,
    We do not hunt. Will not be eating deer, possibly tree rat., or wild rabbit., or lacking anything else snake. We have a heavy coyote , fox, bobcat, ..etc population they keep a lot of small rodents under control. Our neighbor has a large bull that changes pastures regularly, that helps control the snake population.
    We have chickens rabbits and 2 dogs.. Most of their needs are taken care of here and supplies are used as needed.DE is used heavily,I keep electrolyte for baby chicks,gentian violet for wounds. use herbals. Silver solution for infected areas. ACV is added to waters.
    I have a target amount i try to keep on hand for our needs, of first aide/ feed/supplementation/cleaning/Tp

    We have been experimenting with new recipes for our staple foods.
    We added some staples. sugar, Rice,coffee,….few other items holiday specific. Body wash/shampoo, animal supplies-feeders and water containers.
    . We generally eat less sugar than most families. Natural alternatives are also stocked.Jellies, Jams and home made syrups we have/Use lightly and fruit is often easiest-most fully saved in this manner.

    Information searches.. You tube….Adapt 2030 has come out with a couple of good video’s, concerning GSM, and reset and solutions for growing into the coming years… Ice age farmer , and Full Spectrum survival put out video’s on food crops and the management of the”elite” to handle the masses of “useless eaters”….some of these i have listened to 2-3x trying to pick up information mentioned. Dave Hodges had one out this week entitled “We are in trouble.” worth listening to and “mulling over”, also was one on large amount of UN(Chinese) troops in Cuba…250K. might want to listen. has a good discussion …with someone else.Quayle?
    Info is out there, we must be able to take all sources and assimilate the info that is provided.
    .. There are several Farmers who have you tube channels. Check some of these out and learn all you can from their various struggles and solutions…. No particular order: Rice farming TV, (covered the Rice harvest and the struggles with this years harvest-several years),
    “Our Wyoming life” the joys of managing a Cattle ranch and limited hay growing conditions.Have a nice greenhouse that is quite productive..,
    ” Sandi Brock” has one on sheep farming, planting and gathering or grains.-mostly ..
    and “This Farm Wife” is on the east coast, she “keeps it real”… Deep South Homestead detailed their struggle with heat, health and microclimate drought. All of these are detailing their struggles and successes.
    Our Feed stocked and secured for the month, Cleaned out older containers completely . Found a leak in one and mitigated.issue…Additional housing for added breeding stock..Plans for additional grow out areas.
    Temps were nice today was 60 degrees out in rabbitry this eve.as we made several adjustments to our set up… Clean out of animal areas this week.2 wheelbarrow loads of manure moved to garden area.. More to be done this coming week.. rain to move back in and temps are to fall with forecast for snow.and 22 degrees.. more weather mitigation methods have been done, extra hay, bedding, deep litter in hen house moved nestbox, secured a fiberglass panel or 3… to block wind/rain and patched few holes in roof. of chicken run/rabbitry. and will continue to be done until said event arrives. moved a Buck Cage and made room for an additional one, Kits are due this week.( prob come on coldest day/night. need to set up heat light.
    All..as i continue to struggle with shoulder ligament issue. Have not re injured , ..limited use to approx 10-15%. In 3-4 months should have 40% strength and heal.,IF no further injury. That will be spring. Seed catalogs have been trickling in. re checking supplies and coming needs and making lists/wants/needs. Not knowing how much land to be avail to plant… is a challenge.. Have a couple of bed extensions to do. One for sweetpotatoes and one for Okra. Ground is positively soggy. seems to be no middle between soggy and drought.. something to consider…. found plans for a non techie small area irrigation system.. will try it on sweet potatoes./potatoes. should double yield…to give water and nutrients when and where needed.in raised bed or dedicated bed….Greenhouse containers planned as mostly wicking beds. Less fire ant issues..they have trouble building in extremely loose soil and don’t like to go thru water reservoir if they can avoid it.
    Prayers for all who prep, grow food, for families and our nation and For our POTUS and all his helpers.May Our enemies fail substantially
    Hang in there and Keep on Keeping on.!

    1. Anonamo Also,
      I followed along; but, was wondering about this statement:

      Information searches.. You tube….Adapt 2030 has come out with a couple of good video’s, concerning GSM, and reset and solutions for growing into the coming year

      What is GSM, since in my world the acronym GSM is the ”Global System for Mobile communications” , a standard developed by ETSI (European Telecommunications Standards Institute) describing the protocols for 2G digital cellular networks.

      1. Grand Solar Minimum…=GSM, it is the name given for the solar cycle we are going into, supposed to affect the seasons, growing days of the entire world. We saw the changes of very quick transitio from “expecting morning frosts” to “Temps above 90″… Is Part of the reason China is active in North Africa. the desert is turning green getting more water. are to be prime land for growing grains.

        1. Anonamo Also,

          Grand Solar Minimum…=GSM, it is the name given for the solar cycle we are going into, supposed to affect the seasons, growing days of the entire world.

          Thank you. Google doesn’t yet know that acronym, only the telephony version and I’ve never heard it called that.
          I am well aware of the solar cycles, and as a communicator, follow it closely @ https://spaceweather.com, where you can sign up for email alerts.
          They however are only calling it plain old ” Solar minimum” with the current following notation:

          Solar minimum is here – but even now strangely beautiful auroras are dancing around the poles.

          AND

          The previous record-holder is the year 2008, when the sun was blank for 268 days, making the Solar Minimum of 2008-2009 the deepest of the Space Age. Next weekend, barring a sudden profusion of sunspots, 2019 will move into first place.

          It is a long term normal cycle.

          What I have been aware of that has been I think purposely ignored by the MSM and our “Leaders” who all worship at the altar of Global Warming, err.. Climate change is a book by John L Casey: ” Dark Winter: How the Sun Is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell”
          It’s a good read or listen and perhaps your local library has a copy.

          John L. Casey is a former White House national space policy advisor, NASA headquarters consultant, and space shuttle engineer who tells the truth about ominous changes taking place in the climate and the Sun.

          But enter his name into Google and you find only this:

          John L. Casey is an American author. Casey’s literary works include Dark Winter and Cold Sun. His current residence is Orlando, Florida.
          Nothing to see here if id stops or slows the climate change train; but, perhaps Zulu can look him up for a chat.

          We saw the changes of very quick transitio from “expecting morning frosts” to “Temps above 90″

          It didn’t happen quite that fast here; but, we have had swings in temperature that are not quite normal with teens in the morning and 50’s in the afternoon,just today.

          Is Part of the reason China is active in North Africa. the desert is turning green getting more water. are to be prime land for growing grains.

          I guess they and we need to take whatever steps make sense if we are having a new reality., remembering that the Little Ice Age, a period between about 1300 and 1870 during which Europe and North America were subjected to significantly colder winters than during the 20th century.
          It has been reported the English writer Mary Shelley, best known for her horror novel Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus (1818) was severely affected by the weather that also included more dark and cold from the eruption of Mount Tambora in modern Indonesia. Heres’ more information on that era.

          Did Climate Inspire The Birth Of A Monster?

          https://www.npr.org/2007/08/13/12688403/did-climate-inspire-the-birth-of-a-monster
          I think we’ll get through this OK; but, I’m really thankful I’m a prepper who never quite looked at the world as a safe place, no matter where or when you lived.
          So everyone stack up those shelf stable foods, firewood, sleeping bags and wool blankets and cross your fingers, since it could be a bumpy ride.

        2. TOP: look up” the year without a summer”. That is a possibility, especially with the shortened seasons, microclimates changing , and volcano eruptions by a couple of big one would be the only thing required to set that up again…should they go off close to the same time.
          It is my understanding we have about 30-50 years of this cycle being very bad..have several years supposed to be worse than others. I don’t remember which years…some of the chanels like ice age farmer ad adapt 2030 have the ones with the dates and expectations, they show the cycle, and the expected cycle.
          I have neglected Dutchsince lately, but he has a specific way he can predict within a few days…of pressure releases in the earths crust, as EQ or eruptions… he is on twitch and other sites besides you tube…
          I do not worry about an asteroid or volcano coming in or going off. I do what i can and depend on God to take care of any lack. Whatever i can grow/produce against our needs is one more thing i will not need to purchase if it is available…and if an item is not available to purchase there exists the possibility i will be able to trade for something i do need..IF i have extra of any item.

          1. Anonamo Also,

            look up” the year without a summer”. That is a possibility, especially with the shortened seasons, microclimates changing , and volcano eruptions by a couple of big one would be the only thing required to set that up again…should they go off close to the same time.

            I am quite familiar with the Year without a summer (1816) that was also concurrent with the massive eruption of Mount Tambora in the previous year (1815). I am also very familiar with the nominal 11 year sunspot cycle and watch it closely since it affects and almost predicts radio communications. NASA watchea the sun closely using SOHO (Solar and Heliospheric Observatory) that can be seen on : https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/soho/index.html
            I am familiar with the solar minimum; but, simply had not heard it called using the dramatic label of <Grand” Solar Minimum.
            There is good technical information on this whole thing in the book: ”Dark Winter: How the Sun Is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell” by John Casey and more here: ”Professor Valentina Zharkova: The Solar Magnet Field and the Terrestrial Climate” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY

            And this:
            ” How the sun affects temperatures on Earth (w/ Valentina Zharkova, Northumbria University)”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyyuouPSNEA

            Note that if you enter the name “Valentina Zharkova” or “John L Casey” into Google, you will see them listed as only Authors.
            Both of these scientists have had a hard time getting heard, because their explanation of the Earth’s climate being directly and dramatically affected by solar influences fly in the face of the Global Climate hoaxers and their continued funding.

            It is my understanding we have about 30-50 years of this cycle being very bad..have several years supposed to be worse than others. I don’t remember which years…some of the chanels like ice age farmer ad adapt 2030 have the ones with the dates and expectations, they show the cycle, and the expected cycle.

            Casey uses past cycles and extracts his 30 year prediction from those.

            I have neglected Dutchsince lately, but he has a specific way he can predict within a few days…of pressure releases in the earths crust, as EQ or eruptions… he is on twitch and other sites besides you tube…

            Who is Dutch and what is twitch?
            I am familiar with twit (https://twit.tv); but, not twitch

            I do not worry about an asteroid or volcano coming in or going off.

            Neither do I, nor an airliner crashing into my house, since some event simply fall into the ”Stuff happens” category and you only avoid those with luck, so worry is cimply wasted.

            Whatever i can grow/produce against our needs is one more thing i will not need to purchase if it is available…and if an item is not available to purchase there exists the possibility i will be able to trade for something i do need..IF i have extra of any item.

            It’s the same here; but, other than long term food fatigue, we can provide calories & nutrition for 4 or more adults for quite some time.

      1. Moe, Take time to go back a while and listen to several of the other ones, too. I have learned much .. there are many more.
        To others…. If you need to learn about a particular grow method, plug it in you tube… DWC,Kracky, Growing in gutters… .. information is there… later .

  14. Thank you Anonamo Also, great post, good references!
    The greatest way to say I LOVE YOU, is a word in due season, in this case Famine is coming!!!
    We all need to take this more seriously than most of us do.
    In my case, other than a few stockings which are actually work socks with candy canes at the top, put together with small Craftsman tools and snacks or food gifts, this is my way of saying Merry Christmas this year.
    Less $ output. Money to go toward new woodburner and more food.
    New births in the barn ( tis the season for calves.) Temps been up in 50’s at birthing times. Very good.
    Prepare to keep warm, have food and hand tools plus water treatment and if need be a gun and ammo, for hunting and protection.
    Warning to each of this tribe is the above. Take care of you. No one else will probably show up to do it for you. Responsibility is on you Now. Not later.
    Better my gift to each of you sounds stern, but it is with a loving heart I offer this to you.
    So did Anonamo Also.
    Do not get caught up in usual Christmas spending, take care of you and yours.

    God is good

    1. Amen, as our children get older they get less item’s most year’s hubby and I just get each other basics like pajamas, blankets. We have been paying down two credit card’s, they are not a lot but you gotta keep them down those are for business, we don’t have a CC, for personal I just buy thing’s if the kid’s need thing’s like contacts, or new shoe’s , but it has to be on my radar and I checked for sales, I’m glad my kid’s don’t need the most expensive item’s they understand Mom, has to have a budget and I’m pretty good at sticking with it 🙂

      1. mom of three,

        Amen, as our children get older they get less item’s most year’s hubby and I just get each other basics like pajamas, blankets.

        Since our kids are now adults (29, 46, & 50) all grown & gone like us, they really have no ”Needs”, so each year we pass around lists of the ”wants” or small needs, so that useful gifts may be purchased. What the DW & I do, is during the year when we see some non necessity item we want, instead of purchasing it, we just make note in a list, that can be given to one of the kids around Christmas, when quite often these same items are on sale. This way we get something useful and I cannot remember when we have had a return.

        We have been paying down two credit card’s, they are not a lot but you gotta keep them down those are for business, we don’t have a CC, for personal

        I had that same problem more than 40 years ago, and when I finally got out from under it, I swore it would never happen again, and it hasn’t.
        We do however, utilize one CC heavily, since properly managed they can have benefits, not cost you anything, and even make you some money.
        We have not paid a penny in interest for at least 20 years, by meshing our income dates to the CC billing cycle and always paying off the balance.
        For instance, we made a large purchase today (actually yesterday, Sunday 12/8); but, could have also made that purchase on Saturday (12/7).
        Had we made the purchase on Friday (12/6 our billing cycle end date) or before that, the transaction would have close on 12/6, and come due on 1/2/2020; however, by waiting that one day until at least Saturday (the 7th) it will be on the next billing cycle closing on 1/6/2020 and be due on 2/2/2020, giving us an entire extra month of income until we pay off the balance.
        When I stated “even make you some money”, here is how that works. Our CC has a rewards point system, giving us at least one point per dollar spent. There are numerous rewards that can be exchanged for points; but, we normally go for gift cards, generally for the Home Depot. These are normally exchanged for a penny a point, so 5000 points gets us a $50.00 gift card, 10000 a $100.00, etc. On occasion they run a 10% discount sale on cards, so that %50.00 card costs only 4500 points, so all in our CC interest rate runs around -1.0%
        This approach does of course take patience and discipline, something I didn’t have enough of right out of college 46 hears ago; but, with planning, the method can work wonders for your cash flow, and little items with those gift cards are essentially free, and for Homesteaders, free tools and supplies from Home Depot, Lowes, etc, often come in quite handy.

        I just buy thing’s if the kid’s need thing’s like contacts, or new shoe’s , but it has to be on my radar and I checked for sales,

        We do this as do our kids, since they were raised knowing we had no money tree out back and all do quite well looking for and waiting for sales and discounts, often finding online deals I don’t normally look for.

        I’m glad my kid’s don’t need the most expensive item’s they understand Mom, has to have a budget and I’m pretty good at sticking with it 🙂

        I don’t know that as kids they understood it all that well; but, we didn’t spend what we didn’t have, preferring to be warm & well fed. I just looked up the current statistic on CC debt in the US and found this appalling statistic.

        ValuePenguin found that more than 40% of all US households carry credit card debt, with the average American household carrying a balance of $5,700. For only indebted households, which excludes people who pay their balances in full every month, the average debt is $9,333.

        At a nominal 18% the owner of that $5,700 pays $ 85.50 per month in interest, with a minimum payment of something like $250.00 meaning you only decrease the balance by the $ 164.50 ($250.00 – $85.50), leaving an outstanding balance of $ 5535.50 and lowering your next month’s interest to only $83.00. It’s no wonder it takes forever to pay one of these off, or why they send applications to recent college and trade school graduates.

  15. Hi All,

    I have been crazy busy with work. I am sorry that I have not had time to keep up. I am working the equivalent of four full time jobs. (This is insane.) But I will earn enough money to replace the AC unit, the hot water heater and the refrigerator. I bought this house in 2004. So things are starting to wear out.

    Good News: We think we have a future son-in-law. The man can hunt, smoke food, dehydrate food, can food. He has a CCL. He grew up on a farm and describes his parents as “hoarders”. He is a Republican. I Facebooked his mom. She is a Republican and (I am sure) a prepper. He is down to earth. And he wants children.

    I have been working crazy hours and cooking Sunday dinner.

    1. BAM BAM, Having a future SIL like that will be a wonderful prep, valuable addition to your family…..if DD approves, LOL

      1. AA,

        They are in love. My dh and I really like the guy. He is so down-to-earth. He is just a good person with skills. I have already told him that I expect a ring for Christmas. LOL

    2. BamBam
      Good news on the possible future SIL, awesome!!
      As for working 4 full time jobs👩‍💻👩‍🔧👩‍🏫👩‍🌾👩‍⚕️, woman I hope you are finding time to sleep & rest or you will burn out 😵🥴.
      Have you been keeping up on the latest flu information? Our household will be hunkering down & avoiding the holiday shoppers & their germs.

      1. AC,

        I have not kept up. I do have three quarts of elderberry tincture. The bulk of my work should be done by Wednesday. After that I just have to deal with the whiny little “s%$its”.

  16. I am just starting to get in to Herbal medications. What books and videos can you recommend. There are so many I am not sure witch ones to believe are any good. Thank you for any help.

    1. Hello Medic 3,

      The Grow Network is an excellent place to learn things. They have a summit every year that has free videos of different topics every day from world class people.

      https://thegrownetwork.com/

      I would check out your local DoTerra and/or Young Living reps, as they will often have meetups where you can learn about essential oils. There is a Meetup.com site that you can join, and see if anyone is offering classes related to holistic health.

      Rosemary Gladstar has some books out.

      There are Facebook groups that have a wealth of information like the “Off Grid and Homestead Homeopathy and Healing” group. It’s a closed group, so you will have to ask to join.

      Personally, I have these books, recommended by various people I have run across

      Herbs for Common Ailments: How to Make and Use Herbal Remedies for Home Health Care. A Storey BASICS® Title

      Rosemary Gladstar’s Herbal Recipes for Vibrant Health: 175 Teas, Tonics, Oils, Salves, Tinctures, and Other Natural Remedies for the Entire Family

      The Portable Essential Oils: A Pocket Reference of Everyday Remedies for Natural Health & Wellness

      Herbally Yours – Penny C. Royal

      Growing and Using the Healing Herbs – Weiss and Weiss

      Herbal Prescriptions for Better Health – Donald J Brown

      The Rodale Herb Book – 1974 version – excellent

      The Herbal Drugstore – Linda White and Steven Foster

      Medicines from the Bible – Marinus de Waal

      Comfort for the Burned and Wounded – John Kiem – excellent

      When I check on Amazon, I look and see if there are any available for the cheaper price since there are sometimes more sellers than the one that comes up.

      The Patriot Nurse (thepatriotnurse.com) has a class as well. Medical Prep 301- Nutrition, Herbs, and Old School Disease (2 Days)

      I am sure there are lots of videos and I always read the comments on Amazon and videos to see what people are saying.

      I would like to get my own distiller to make my own essential oils and other items.

      1. Almost There,

        The Grow Network is an excellent place to learn things. They have a summit every year that has free videos of different topics every day from world class people.

        I’ve watched some of those summits; but, since they are a daily thing that expire at day’s end, I’ve opted to purchase a few of them, sent to you on CDROM or a thumb drive. I like having them as a reference to refer back to.

        Thanks for the vendor and book references.

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